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Illegal Immigrant Minors And New Talking Points

Filed under: General — Dana @ 12:26 pm

[guest post by Dana]

At the risk of immigration update overload, I wanted to briefly mention a few interesting reports.

First, in Murrieta, CA, the local Penny Saver newspaper ran an ad seeking “loving, compassionate parents to provide a loving home”… for “unaccompanied refugee minors”. According to the ad, monthly reimbursement for providing a home can pay more than $6,000 per month.


Oddly, one Murrieta resident called to inquire about the ad and a staff member told her that the children being received are 12 years old and up. When she asked where the younger ones were, the staff member replied that he wondered about that, too.

As the illegal unaccompanied minors are being disbursed throughout Southern California in temporary shelters, local churches are stepping up to receive the children (and mothers) for a brief period until they are sent to be united with relatives throughout the country. Diocese officials stated that they are not receiving any federal reimbursement or monetary support, but that it is on a voluntary basis.

Also, the city of Murrieta, which recently received a black eye from some of the press due to protesting residents effectively causing three Homeland Security buses carrying illegal immigrant detainees to re-reroute from the Murrieta Border Station, has now hired a P.R. firm to help with damage control and handle media requests. And taking their cue from Sally Kohn, the firm has requested the “I” word no longer be used in reference to the children. Here are the management consultant’s suggested talking points for the city:

* Don’t use the terms “illegal” or “invaders”
* Say Murrieta is a family community and we have compassion for those kids
* Talk about Obama’s orphans being dumped in Murrieta
* Push the fact that [local Congressman Ken] Calvert is missing (in action)
* Use signs that are meaningful and convey a quick message
* Flag is good, but signs say more
* Don’t use the word quarantine

While city officials must certainly hope its frustrated residents fall in line with the prescribed messaging, it doesn’t appear that this is the type of crowd, at least at this point, willing to fall in line with much of anything suggested by a governmental entity. Also, I suspect residents don’t want to risk seeing their own blunt messaging watered down so much that it possibly loses its effectiveness. Frustratingly, while the messaging of protesters-at-large has become a convenient tool for this White House and a willing media to distract from those ultimately responsible for the problem in the first place, without it, they – and we – risk not being heard at all.

(#3 should be hammered relentlessly.)


46 Responses to “Illegal Immigrant Minors And New Talking Points”

  1. And get a bigger hammer.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  2. For $6,000/month tax free I might could be persuaded to take in the next Salma Hayek, but I would need to see pictures first.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  3. The news is they are not sending anyone more to Murietta. They found enough space in Texas.

    This is probably either the old group, or part of nationwide placement drive.

    This would be for those who cannot be placed with relatives.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  4. I certainly hope anyone volunteering gets TB skin tests on the “kids” .

    Mike K (b5c01a)

  5. NPR “facts”… They try to appear even-handed, but fail to note this President’s lack of engagement, leadership, etc.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  6. Maybe all of the tenured Professors of Chican@ Studies would like to take the young MS-13 members into their own homes. They can combine altruism with social welfare research and publish papers on multinational gang activity as experienced by recent arrivals. And they can be subsidized by up to $72k per year by generous old Tio Sam.

    JVW (feb406)

  7. NPR fact sheet! You are a comedian, Sammy

    Hadoop (f7d5ba)

  8. america is so ghetto anymore

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  9. illegal aliens are aliens that are in this country illegally.

    why the hello would i call them anything else?

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  10. only an idiot would consider NPR a reliable, honest source of information…

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  11. I can’t think of a better use for tax payers money! Give the money to haliburton no! koch brothers no! defense contractors no! tax breaks for rich no! children YES!

    vota (4a188b)

  12. I see two license #s at the bottom of the ad. Has someone checked it?

    felipe (960c75)

  13. Remember how during the Bush years we always heard leftists tell us, “If you are such a supporter of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, you ought to be enlisting in the armed forces and going over to fight it.” I think this is a moment where we should tell our amnesty/DREAM-supporting friends, “If you are so big on the idea that these kids should be allowed to stay, you need to take one or two of them into your own homes.” Especially for rich leftists like Obama, Pelosi, Clinton, et al. (I would say Reid too, but no kid should have to grow up in the Harry Reid household).

    Obama could probably lock down the Latino vote forever if he brought a cute little mijo from Oaxaca to be the hermano menor to Sasha and Malia. The kid would have to be Mexican, though, ’cause that’s the group that provides the biggest number of votes.

    JVW (feb406)

  14. TSA is allowing illegals on planes without ID… nice touch, no worries there!

    Colonel Haiku (b198f5)

  15. Haiku “Fact”…

    wherever you go
    there you are you can’t change that
    except for Sammy

    Colonel Haiku (7ce80a)

  16. Haiku “Fact”…

    a rose is a rose
    a leopard can’t change its spots
    Sam is tedious

    Colonel Haiku (7ce80a)

  17. Haiku “Facts”…

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    Sammy can be quite banal
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    Colonel Haiku (7ce80a)

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    Colonel Haiku (7ce80a)

  19. Haiku “Facts”…

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    Colonel Haiku (7ce80a)

  20. L.S.M.F.T!


    felipe (960c75)

  21. Haiku “Facts”…

    longest pasta post
    Sammy Finkelman’s record
    would leave you gasping

    Colonel Haiku (4a878d)

  22. Yeah, my 2 cents: the foster care “ad” is very poorly written, does not look or sound official and is in the free Penny Saver as opposed to a regular paper. I’m smellin’ scam of some kind.

    elissa (886016)

  23. Haiku “Fun Fact”

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    leaves you reaching for a cig
    coffin nail not sex

    Colonel Haiku (f8c86d)

  24. Haiku “Fact”…

    Sammy’s TB posts
    made me go out catch TB
    just to make It stop

    Colonel Haiku (5de7c8)

  25. 10. illegal aliens are aliens that are in this country illegally.

    why the hello would i call them anything else?

    redc1c4 (abd49e) — 7/11/2014 @ 1:46 pm

    You’ve got lots of official support for that position.

    Permanent Resident Alien

    An alien admitted to the United States as a lawful permanent resident. Permanent residents are also commonly referred to as immigrants; however, the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) broadly defines an immigrant as any alien in the United States, except one legally admitted under specific nonimmigrant categories (INA section 101(a)(15)). An illegal alien who entered the United States without inspection, for example, would be strictly defined as an immigrant under the INA but is not a permanent resident alien. Lawful permanent residents are legally accorded the privilege of residing permanently in the United States. They may be issued immigrant visas by the Department of State overseas or adjusted to permanent resident status by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services in the United States.

    Steve57 (cd4182)

  26. sammyalien thoughts
    make my head hurt

    mg (31009b)

  27. Elissa, the number, at least checks out.

    Dana (a938ee)

  28. Perhaps they want this to fly under the radar, so to speak…

    Dana (a938ee)

  29. This is on my local CL.

    Finally, TFG is creating some jobs/

    Gazzer (192e59)

  30. There were actually a couple of things in the news related to this that nobody seems to know that I never got around to posting.

    The lawsuit against the slowdown of asylum hearings. (it could be even they don’t wnat in many cases, but they still would sue) They actually discarded a whole bunch of cases from the cases from the schedule!

    Statistics on hearings etc..

    Op-ed pieces.

    Rick Perry giving an argument that doesn’t apply to the thing that he is complaining about. He;s complaining about people who surrender. How will the National Guard reduce that?

    Or this:

    The bill to amend the 2008 law that is being prepared by the two Arizona senators, Jeff Flake and John McCain, would increase the number of immigration judges to hear cases and create a separate docket for cases involving minors. Further, it would increase the number of refugee visas for Salvadorans, Hondurans and Ecuadoreans by 5,000 each — a move intended to encourage children to seek asylum in the United States through legal channels.

    “We think that the key element is the repeal of the 2008 act,” Mr. McCain said. “The only thing that’s going to stop these children from coming is if their parents see planeloads of them coming back to the country of origin.” ..

    …Two Texas lawmakers — Representative Henry Cuellar, a Democrat, and Senator John Cornyn, a Republican — said they also hoped to introduce legislation that would amend the 2008 law and allow the authorities to handle cases involving migrant children from Central American countries similarly to those from Mexico.

    The bill, Mr. Cuellar said, would speed up deportations and allow Central American children to choose to be sent back, as children from Mexico can do.

    Sammy Finkelman (069ee3)

  31. Adult illegal immigrants posing as unaccompanied alien children appear to be attempting to enroll at public high schools in Lynn, Mass.

    Dana (4dbf62)

  32. Meghan’s coward daddy seems to think this is a refugee crisis

    poor momo


    happyfeet (8ce051)

  33. that link is no bueno Dana

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  34. oops. Here.

    Dana (4dbf62)

  35. The democratic base wants the kids to stay and now glen beck and many republicans want kids to stay and become americans looks like the children are tar babies for the republicans not the democrats!

    vota (4a188b)

  36. I think this is a moment where we should tell our amnesty/DREAM-supporting friends, “If you are so big on the idea that these kids should be allowed to stay, you need to take one or two of them into your own homes.”

    In a similar vein, if the people who think all the “undocumented” are so fine and dandy, then they truly deserve to live the experience 24/7, in their own neighborhoods (which hopefully will be in the forefront of changing demographics, of “if Mexico can’t come to the US, the US can come to Mexico”), and where their own children will be attending school.

    Please don’t make Bekins, Allied Van Lines and U-Haul the main beneficiaries of all the do-gooderism (albeit two-faced) oozing out of liberals, libertarian idealists and squish-squish conservatives. Simply put, if one is going to vote one way at the ballot box on election day, then he or she shouldn’t vote another way, referring to the way he’ll be voting with his feet and the moving van.

    Mark (8cacab)

  37. I just gagged after reading that narciso, not sure if there was a cause/effect.

    I’m afraid I just don’t know who to believe is messaging or counter-messaging what anymore. In one way it is hard to believe this is true and that people would cooperate, but then, the love of money is the root of all sorts of evil, including the selling out of religious principles.

    I was just thinking earlier tonight, I have no problem believing Obama wants to transform the US into a socialist state, that he wants to shrink our world influence imprint and become just another also-ran country, he really has essentially said those things outright if one has listened,
    I still find it hard to believe he is purposefully into Cloward-Piven, that he thinks the system falling apart in anarchy is going to lead to a brighter day.
    But, hey, crown prince Lucifer tricked Eve into thinking going rogue would be better than staying in relationship with God, so maybe.
    But anyone of sense knows, when chaos and anarchy erupt, you have chaos and anarchy, and all bets are off as to who will survive, let alone come out on top. But maybe it will be delayed for another day.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  38. narciso,

    I read through the doc but failed to see where the contracts/amounts were listed. Did you see it? I could have missed it.

    Dana (4dbf62)

  39. keep telling yourself this was a coincidence;

    The article is based on the false assumption that unaccompanied minors only started showing up recently. There’s been a noticeable increase recently, but they’ve been showing up for years, and the grants are obviously for taking care of those kids. If they were really preparing for a surge this year, then they would have done so, and we wouldn’t have the crowded detention facilities and the frantic efforts to find something to do with them that we’ve seen; we see them precisely because this surge was not expected, and overwhelmed the existing arrangements.

    Milhouse (b95258)

  40. The surge was not expected Milhouse, but when a government or administration puts out the word in the form of policy and rhetoric if they are conscious and/or responsible they should expect it. Their failure to do so is just another indication of their complete ineptitude.

    Hoagie (4dfb34)

  41. The surge was, in fact, expected. All part of Cloward-Piven. But the public outcry against this unlawfulness of this Socialist administration (despite Perry Hood’s lies) was the unexpected part.

    John Hitchcock (c552ee)

  42. John Hitchcock, are you saying that the administration and its followers like Perry/vota would deliberately endanger children some of which have died just to advance their Cloward-Piven socialist agenda? And too, import poverty and disease to the same ends? I’m shocked!

    Hoagie (4dfb34)

  43. . Their failure to do so is just another indication of their complete ineptitude.

    Of course. But, as we used to tell the people foaming at the mouth about Bush, you can’t have it both ways. He may be an evil genius or he may be an idiot, but he can’t be both at the same time. Bush, of course, was neither. But with 0bama the evidence seems to point to “idiot”.

    Milhouse (b95258)

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