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7/7/2014

Weighing The Optics

Filed under: General — Dana @ 2:35 pm

[guest post by Dana]

As the illegal detainee issue continues to make headlines, a panel on MSNBC discussed several issues regarding the border catastrophe, including President Obama’s refusal to visit the border (as Governor Perry has requested), Democrats avoidance of talking about the border mess and President Obama’s “Katrina” moment.

Taking a moment to focus on the president’s decision not to visit the border, one wonders, if the border situation is a “humanitarian crisis” as he has told us, then how can he not make the visit? Consider how awful the optics would be if the President of the United States were in the near vicinity of a declared humanitarian crisis and intentionally avoided it. And further, just think what would have happened if President Bush had chosen not to personally visit the site of a humanitarian crisis within our borders in order to further inform his opinion and provide leadership and support? Oh, wait.

The administration remains firm in their decision. Because, fundraisers …or scabies… or TB

Regarding the non-visit, White House spokesman Josh Earnest attempted to justify it:

“I defend that by describing to you that there are a whole range of senior officials in this administration over the course of the last three or four weeks who have spent a lot of time in the southwest border,” he said.

Earnest said that “senior officials” from FEMA and officials like Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson and Cecilia Munoz, the White House’s Domestic Policy Director, “in the last several weeks have spent a lot of time visiting the border to assess the conditions there.”
“The President has a very good sense of what’s happening on the border,” Earnest said. “He’s getting regular updates from his officials who have traveled to that region.”

Earnest said Obama wants “regular reports about what they’re seeing on the border and how resources that are being devoted to processing those who have appeared at the border are being used to effectively administrate justice” and is “well aware of that process and how it’s going.”

All of which begs several questions: If President Bush was accused of not caring about black people during Katrina, why isn’t President Obama being accused of not caring about brown people during this humanitarian crisis at the border? After all, it’s not like he won’t already be in the area. This would not only more accurately inform his opinion of the situation, but would also be a wonderful opportunity for exhausted workers trying to manage the disaster to have the President of the United States personally lend support and leadership. Doesn’t the president care about them?

Further, if Josh Earnest believes it’s good enough for President Obama to get “regular updates” from his officials who have seen it firsthand, why wouldn’t that have been good enough for President Bush?

And, considering his administration has recently requested $2 billion dollars to respond to the flood of immigrants illegally entering the U.S. through the Rio Grande Valley area of Texas (not necessarily to secure the border)…, you would think a firsthand look and assessment would be the fiscally prudent thing to do.

Oops! Scratch that $2 billion amount:

The Obama administration is expected to provide details Tuesday on a new budget request designed in part to cope with the massive increase in illegal border crossings by migrants from Central America.

While not proving details of the request, White House spokesman Josh Earnest said the budget supplemental request is “related to our efforts to add additional resources to the border.”

The request is expected to top $2 billion.

Note, that none of this addresses actually securing the border…

All of this leads one to believe that our president wants to avoid confrontations with and protests from frustrated and angry citizens demanding answers that have not been forthcoming, including, but not limited to, when will the borders be secured and when will the illegal detainees be sent back. Talk about some bad optics.

–Dana

UPDATE: Apparently, the feds are now reaching out to local lawmakers for available facilities to house the illegal children detainees:

The initial request comes from FEMA and was sent out by the White House Office Of Intergovernmental Affairs.

The internal email was acquired by KFI News and shows a request for emergency shelter options in states and communities throughout the US. It then lists a special email to send any suggestions.

An attachment outlines specific requirements for shelters- facilities must be within 50 miles of a major city and airport, able to be fenced in and available for lease.

It lists suggestions for the types of facilities preferred. They include office spaces, warehouses, big box stores, hotel or dorms, aircraft hangars and shopping malls.

The email can be viewed here.

UPDATE 2: As discussed in the post, the president is avoiding not planning to visit the border this week while he is in Texas. Instead, he will visit the home of Austin-based filmmaker Robert Rodriguez for one of three scheduled fundraisers. The cost of a ticket? $5,000 to $32,400. And there’s some bitter irony with regard to some of the attending guests, actors Jessica Alba and Danny Trejo:

Both Trejo and Alba star in Rodriguez’s ultra-violent Machete franchise. The first film in the series demonized a politician (Robert De Niro) who sought tight border control as well as a Minuteman-style American who delighted in shooting a pregnant Mexican woman.

Alba’s character, a champion for immigrants’ rights, utters the following line in the first Machete feature:

“We didn’t cross the border, the border crossed us.”

82 Responses to “Weighing The Optics”

  1. obama is pissed
    attacked from the Left and Right
    time to go golfing

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  2. The effing C-minus student President who says we must submit to NSA, TSA, IRS, and other surveillance, is allowing thousands of people to cross the border.
    And he assures us that not one of them is someone we need to worry about.

    As Charles Krauthammer astutely has pointed out, “If fences don’t work, then how come they have one surrounding the White House ?”

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  3. There must be a reason the White House is defending it’s non- interest in the border catastrophe and humanitarian crisis, and a reason that the media is treating it so differently than Katrina and Bush. Oh yeah, it’s prolly because Obama administration policies actually helped create and most certainly exacerbated this current crisis, while Katrina was primarily an act of God that was poorly planned for and poorly responded to by local Democrat politicians.

    elissa (b62c4b)

  4. In a very minor defense of the Obama Administration, I absolutely hate it when politicians show up at disaster sites (or in this case, self-fulfilling disaster sites) and mug for the cameras in specially-staged photo ops where they can look concerned yet compassionate and resolute. My cousin lives in north San Diego County, and her area was hit pretty hard by wildfires a few years back. She said that it was a real pain in the keister when then Governor Schwarzenegger showed up to make the obligatory appearance, because rescue resources had to be diverted in order to ensure that he could access the burn areas and his security and staff detail made everything into a Chinese fire drill (are we not supposed to say that any longer?). I would imagine that it’s about ten times worse where the President of the United States is concerned.

    And of course, Obama knows well that he might end up being heckled and booed if he shows up at the border since this is a problem that he and his allies have greatly exacerbated.

    JVW (feb406)

  5. JVW,

    This isn’t a natural disaster, though.
    And resources aren’t really being deployed at the border.

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  6. Chuck Todd: “Start with the Health Care rollout, you go to the VA, you go to Syria, you go to Iraq, and you can go to the border, and draw a straight line.”

    Recognizing a straight line for the first time in your life when you’re over thirty is a sign of intellectual deficiency.

    Birdbath (3be0e2)

  7. And, considering his administration has recently requested $2 billion dollars to…

    Boehner and Co. would be fools to place a stamp of approval on this.

    Wanna start fighting back? This would be a good place to begin.

    Blacque Jacques Shellacque (51809b)

  8. “time to go golfing”

    Colonel – Perhaps El Presidente has already had his staff determine that there are no suitable golf courses worth a detour should he elect to make a trip to the border. Personally, I have no idea, but at 180 rounds so far, I think he is trying to put the presidential record out of reach.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  9. daley! welcome back!

    When the going gets tough, the weak go golfing.

    Obama sez enough is enough… and declares war on Hobby Lobby!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  10. Also, in the spirit of golf, perhaps The One believes that lowest score wins not only applies to golf, but to Presidenting, too.

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  11. weak-suck president
    he is opening the doors
    “welcome, illegals!”

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  12. the predicted surge
    they did NOTHING to prepare
    WANT this to happen

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  13. forget josh earnest
    the only man for this job’s
    Ernest P. Worrell

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  14. but Cliven Bundy, if your cattle so much as graze on one blade of grass on federal land, goddamnit, the whole weight of the federal government is coming down upon you !
    Because…adherence to the law !!!11!!1!!

    Or whatever.

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  15. That Earnest guy who has replaced Jay Carney can’t possibly be serious.
    He must be…Joshing.
    Or something.

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  16. barack obama
    chump thinks he has a license
    to go it alone

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  17. Colonel – But only on a golf out can Reggie hold El Presidente’s balls and play with his putter.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  18. outing

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  19. lookie here, ya fool
    Constitution stands in way
    things don’t work that way

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  20. Sounds like an outing during a golf outing.

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  21. that would be a true golf “outing”, daley!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  22. Plus, who knows what goes on inside the leather, IYKWIMAITTYD.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  23. Hey Barack, about the border force…
    “You didn’t build that !”

    No, really.
    You didn’t build it.
    Go build it.
    Jerk-o.

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  24. love could play palmer
    and obama’d say “HoGAN!!!”
    just like Colonel Klink

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  25. Till now the theory has been you don’t need a border fence – all you would need to do is detect and apprehend people crossing the border without inspection. The fence also would be some distance away from the border, and on private property.

    Sammy Finkelman (cd2969)

  26. Sammy,

    Border Patrol isn’t exactly apprehending people, are they ?
    Game over.

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  27. “If fences don’t work, then how come they have one surrounding the White House ?” </i.

    Because anyone crossing it gets arrested, or if persistent, shot. But here arresting people is not a solution. It's the problem.

    Sammy Finkelman (cd2969)

  28. “Till now the theory has been you don’t need a border fence”

    Sammy – Is that the theory of “La Raza,” Obama, progressives or are they all the same?

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  29. Dear Sammy,

    I was writing with you specifically in mind.

    Signed,

    George Orwell

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  30. “love could play palmer”

    Colonel – Or Greg Norman and choke a lot.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  31. Elephant Stone (6a6f37) — 7/7/2014 @ 4:05 pm

    Border Patrol isn’t exactly apprehending people, are they ?
    Game over.

    The protests in Murietta seem to be about people they apprehended, not people they didn’t, and about what they intend to do with them (let them go for the time being) not about people who are not being questioned and stopped from proceeding on under their own power.

    The protesters seem to want the Department of Homeland Security to hold people in custody, which in some cases is contrary to law, and they haven’t got the money for – that’s what the $2 billion is for – and would prevent them from doing anything else.

    Sammy Finkelman (cd2969)

  32. Oh, Lord, Sammy, you are more Orwellian than any character George could have written.

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  33. The request is expected to top $2 billion.

    Might as well make it $20B, or $200B, or $2T; it’s a pie-in-the-sky number.

    askeptic (efcf22)

  34. Today former Manhattan District Attorney Robert Morgenthau had an op-ed piece in the New York Faily News (one of a periodic series)

    He complained about a law that says that 34,000 people have to be detained at any given time.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/fix-immigration-outrages-article-1.1854284

    First, Congress must get rid of the statutory requirement that Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) keep an average of 34,000 immigrants in detention every day. This quota is the only one of its kind; no other law enforcement agency has a minimum number of arrestees or detainees set by Congress.

    The euphemistically named “bed mandate” was added to the appropriations bill in 2007, and it has been renewed each year since then despite strong opposition from officials of the Department of Homeland Security and ICE.

    You can see a motive here now for what’s going on now. If if there is a minimum of 34,000, well, by filling up detention spaces with newly arriving young people, it gets much easier to release, or prevent the detention, of others.

    Morgenthau says detaining 34,000 people costs $2 billion a year. So the Obama Administration proposal then would seem to be to double capacity to 68,000.

    Morgenthau also complains the way these prisoners are being exploited for cheap labor. They get paid less than felons.

    Sammy Finkelman (cd2969)

  35. Sammy,

    If we had a fence, they wouldn’t be so easily walking across the border.
    Or something.

    Please tell me you’re just pretending to be this stupid.

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  36. A previous op-ed piece by Morgenthau on this issue:

    http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/immigrants-jailed-hit-number-article-1.1583488

    Last year, when the prisoner population dipped to 30,773, U.S. House Homeland Security Committee Chairman Michael McCaul wrote a pointed public letter to Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Director John Morton, informing him that he was “in clear violation of the statute” and its 34,000 prisoner requirement.

    Notice that’s not the number of immigrants Congress wants to deport; it’s the number Congress insists on incarcerating while they await their fate.

    Of course, it is easy enough to see what motivated such a law, peculiar as it is.

    With the new influx, though, now they have plenty of people to detain.

    A previous op-ed on a slightly different matter:

    http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/immigration-law-insanity-article-1.1815705

    That is why it was so disappointing to hear the news last week that the White House will delay for two months a long-overdue review of Homeland Security’s deportation policies in the hopes that pushing off any reductions in the staggering number of deportations will make Obama’s immigration reform bill more palatable to Republicans in the House of Representatives.

    Although I fully support the immigration reform legislation, I do not think its success should come at the expense of those nonviolent, nonthreatening immigrants who were unlucky enough to be flagged by Homeland Security for petty violations…

    …The President does not need a report from Homeland Security to understand the disconnect and hypocrisy of the government using immigration detainees as cheap labor at detention centers — many of which are private, for-profit facilities — while cracking down on private employers for hiring undocumented immigrants.

    Sammy Finkelman (cd2969)

  37. JVW (feb406) — 7/7/2014 @ 3:20 pm

    Political correctness….

    We used to say (within the racing community) that Ferrari pit-stops had all the organization of a Chinese Fire Drill. They (the Chinese) have gotten much better, Ferrari seems to have regressed.
    So, I guess you could say, when describing a cluster-fark, that it was a “Ferrari Pit Stop”.

    askeptic (efcf22)

  38. sammy, a mind is a terrible thing to waste.
    Please stop.

    askeptic (efcf22)

  39. Elephant Stone (6a6f37) — 7/7/2014 @ 4:36 pm

    If we had a fence, they wouldn’t be so easily walking across the border.
    Or something.

    Please tell me you’re just pretending to be this stupid

    If you put the fence on the American side, as is in fact the general proposal, even where the border is in the desert, they’re already legally in United States territory, and cannot, if they are not Mexican citizens, simply be sent back across the border. The fence doesn’t help.

    If the intent is to prevent people from turning themselves in, there has to be not one place this can be done. The fence has to be right at the border, everywhere.

    Right now, most of them are crossing the Rio Grande. Are you going to put a fence down the middle of that river? No boats allowed?

    Sammy Finkelman (cd2969)

  40. Oh, Sammy.
    This is why snorting that first line of coke is so dangerous.
    Get. Help.

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  41. Now it is true, the smugglers avoid getting too close to the border themselves. They abandon people. So they might be deterred from putting people in the right place.

    But they need to have alow or non-existent death rate for continuing business.

    Obama and company seem to be hoping for a high death rate, or threatening it.

    Notice here that Senator Durbin uses the word “deadly” twice. Except that it is not true. Does he want it to be deadly? I think taht is the strategy of teh Obama Administration, and maybe that of the protesters.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/face-the-nation-transcripts-july-6-2014-mccain-graham-durbin/

    DURBIN: Well, there are two points I want to make for you, Bob.

    First is, I think this administration understands what needs to be done. And it’s a really amazing challenge. First, get down to Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala, and make it clear that sending these children north is a desperate and deadly decision and that they have got to stop as quickly as possible, and force that information- gathering in those countries.

    Secondly, these smugglers and coyotes ought to be hit with the hardest penalties we can possibly come up with. The fact that they would lure these children into this deadly journey is just unspeakable. It is an awful crime.

    Sammy Finkelman (cd2969)

  42. Pretty much every other country in the world finds a way to enforce its borders.
    The La Raza Shitheads are never interested in going anywhere near Mexico’s southern border with Guatemala to see how that is being enforced.
    And it is being enforced.

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  43. terminal stupid
    sam teh sham and the gallows
    gonna hang myself

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  44. “Till now the theory has been you don’t need a border fence”

    daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/7/2014 @ 4:14 pm

    Sammy – Is that the theory of “La Raza,” Obama, progressives or are they all the same?

    No, that was the thinking of the Bush Administration, and McCain. It was cancelled by the Obama Administration saying they wanted something along the same lines that was a little less expensive.

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/01/14/border.virtual.fence/

    http://people.howstuffworks.com/virtual-border-fence.htm

    Sammy Finkelman (cd2969)

  45. See, the thinking was, all you needed to do, if you wanted to stop people from coming to the United states, was to intercept people.

    What you see now, is that intercepting people is the problem.

    Sammy Finkelman (cd2969)

  46. Please regale us with your solution to the problem, Sammy, since you seem to find fault with whatever solution anyone else has suggested. Or do you not see hundreds of thousands of poor and sick people (and some possibly terrorists and criminals) currently streaming across the border and across the Rio Grande to even be a problem for the United States? Because Sammy, if you do not view this as a problem in the first place, then there is really no reason to read what you continue to write here about the border.

    elissa (b62c4b)

  47. If, for legal reasons, you do not consider intercepting people to be a satisfactory solution, but you want something along the border to keep people on the other side, and prevent them from ever entgering the jurisdiction of the United States, the fence needs to be exactly on the border, and if you check you will see that there never have any propoals for that.

    Sammy Finkelman (cd2969)

  48. Sammy,

    You’re the one with no proposals.

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  49. ee, the thinking was, all you needed to do, if you wanted to stop people from coming to the United states, was to intercept people

    I thought all we had to do is pass “comprehensive” immigration reform. I’ve asked repeatedly what magic mechanism would prevent what’s happening now, but I doubt I’ll ever get an answer because…racist!

    Hadoop (f7d5ba)

  50. “No, that was the thinking of the Bush Administration, and McCain. It was cancelled by the Obama Administration saying they wanted something along the same lines that was a little less expensive.”

    Sammy – What the Bush Administration and McCain wanted is irrelevant since they could not get it through Congress. When the Democrats took over Congress in 2007, 850 miles of border fencing had already been approved in bills waiting to be constructed.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  51. Here’s Juan McCain demanding a fence be built. Only to get re-elected again. We fell for it again…and no, I did not vote for him.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0lwusMxiHc

    Gazzer (002e13)

  52. Sammy,

    You are so allergic to truth and facts.
    I think what’s happening is you’re seeing the total unraveling of Obama Inc, as well as the Hillary Crack-Up, and it makes you nervous that there’s not a guarantee of a passing of the baton.
    You’re not yet sold on the Fake Indian from Oklahoma by Way of Harvard.

    Oh, incidentally, Barack Obama is the one who doesn’t believe that intercepting people at the border is “satisfactory.”

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  53. I wonder if the lovely and talented Janet Napolitano will be asked by anyone in the media to opine on this situation, since after all much of the do-nothing-on-the-southern-border agenda blossomed during her reign. She sure was worried about the Canadian border, though!

    http://nation.foxnews.com/janet-napolitano/2011/09/29/napolitano-wants-fence-borderof-canada

    elissa (b62c4b)

  54. “I wonder if the lovely and talented Janet Napolitano will be asked by anyone in the media to opine on this situation, since after all much of the do-nothing-on-the-southern-border agenda blossomed during her reign.”

    elissa – Remember that Big Sis could not come up with an appropriate metric for measuring border security during her tenure at DHS. Probably playing too much softball.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  55. 3. There must be a reason the White House is defending it’s non- interest in the border catastrophe and humanitarian crisis, and a reason that the media is treating it so differently than Katrina and Bush. Oh yeah, it’s prolly because Obama administration policies actually helped create and most certainly exacerbated this current crisis, while Katrina was primarily an act of God that was poorly planned for and poorly responded to by local Democrat politicians.

    elissa (b62c4b) — 7/7/2014 @ 3:16 pm

    If an R was in the WH the media would show split screens of the Preezy playing golf on one half, the border catastrophe on the other, 24 hours a day. That is, I recall, the reason Bush stopped playing golf shortly after he restarted the Iraq war in 2003. It looked bad, he thought, for the Preezy to be playing golf as the flag-draped coffins arrived a Andrews.

    Of course, the MFM went out of it’s way to make it look bad. What do you expect of Democrats with bylines?

    O/T:

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-07/u-s-navy-warns-it-can-t-meet-30-year-funding-needs.html

    The U.S. Navy can’t meet its funding needs for surface warships and a new class of nuclear attack submarines from 2025 to 2034, according to the service’s latest 30-year shipbuilding plan.

    The congressionally required blueprint, submitted late last week and obtained by Bloomberg News, says the Navy’s plan “requires funding at an unsustainable level” unless spending on shipbuilding is increased. …

    Just kidding, elissa. It’s really only one topic. The perfidy of the Obama administration extends to all flanks, seaward and landward. None are to be defended. There is definitely a pattern. What they say they intend to do is already woefully inadequate. Then, they don’t even do that much.

    The 30-year shipbuilding plan already fell short of being capable of meeting the Navy’s declared obligations. Now, they’re not even funding that pitiful plan.

    I think it can all be summed up in one image.

    This is what President Justin Beiber is doing, just in general.

    http://gentner.us/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/obama_finger.jpg

    Steve57 (efd576)

  56. I wonder if the lovely and talented Janet Napolitano will be asked by anyone in the media to opine on this situation, since after all much of the do-nothing-on-the-southern-border agenda blossomed during her reign.

    I’m sure that UC System President Incompetano will simply suggest that they be immediately enrolled at a University of California campus — costs borne entirely by the taxpayer — in a Chicano and Diaspora Studies major. We’re going to need lots of K-12 teachers fluent in the history of Aztlan in coming years.

    JVW (feb406)

  57. Of course, the perfidy of the Obama administration goes beyond national defense.

    Steve57 (efd576)

  58. Don’t hold your breath on that one, elissa, can’t afford to lose you.

    feckless and clueless
    and, frankly, he don’t give a damn
    he’s Baghdadi’s bitch

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  59. I’ve just updated the post with an email the feds have sent to local agencies as they search for locations to house the detainee children.

    Oh, and hi daleyrocks, welcome back!

    Dana (4dbf62)

  60. I keep hearing the talking heads saying that because of HR 7311, signed by Bush at the end of 2008 (and after the election of Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.) the children from Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala cannot be deported.

    The resolution talks of two kinds of unaccompanied children; those from a contiguous country (Mexico) and those from non-contiguous countries. The pertinent part is Section 235. Perhaps Patterico would be willing to address that section. The way I read it, it is clear that UAC can be deported if they are from a non-contiguous country as it talks about how the various departments are responsible for reporting to Congress the number, age and sex of the children that have been repatriated to their native country.

    Also one other point: the talking heads keep saying this was a Bush legislation. It was not; it was the renewal of the original William Wilberforce Trafficking bill enacted in 2000 and signed by Bill Clinton.

    Section 235:

    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c110:1:./temp/~c110qvkrFQ:e99176:

    retire05 (da997b)

  61. Well Dana, there certainly should be plenty of big box stores that went out of business in the Obama economy available–in and near big cities.

    elissa (b62c4b)

  62. I ask once again, “where is the Sammy filter?”

    One is tempted to speculate on Sammy’s issues, but more than likely that would be cruel …

    bobathome (5ccbd8)

  63. the united states of tuberculosis

    gack

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  64. #55, Steve, One unintended consequence of the HteWon’s feckless administration is that our armed forces will require a complete re-equip once his craven appointees are shown the door … perhaps in handcuffs. This may be a problem in the short-term, but but long term, the new equipment will use technology that is a decade newer.

    The only problem is that we may need to buy it from the Chinese.

    bobathome (5ccbd8)

  65. I love how the Lefties treat federal laws like its an eat-what-you-want smorgasboard at Circus, Circus in Vegas.
    The Lefties violate the laws when turning a blind eye and allowing the illegals into the country, then once the illegals are in, they say, “We can’t deport them, because it would violate HR 7311, section 235. Or something. And we don’t want to violate the law !!1! Or whatever !!”

    Come to think of it, I don’t really like the way they do that.
    When push comes to shove, even Circus, Circus will kick people out of their hotel who aren’t legally paying guests.

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  66. Sammy – are you for real?

    JD (6a7d0c)

  67. Hey Cliven Bundy, not even one blade of grass…or else we’ll send tanks and missiles.

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  68. 65. #55, Steve, One unintended consequence of the HteWon’s feckless administration is that our armed forces will require a complete re-equip once his craven appointees are shown the door …

    bobathome (5ccbd8) — 7/7/2014 @ 6:10 pm

    Calling these consequences of the Tiger Beat presidency “unintended” started out difficult for me. And it’s only grown more difficult with time.

    Did I not link to the picture of the Preezy flipping he country the bird?

    Steve57 (efd576)

  69. One wonders did they learn nothing from the wikileaks episode;

    http://legalinsurrection.com/2014/07/double-spy-did-us-spy-on-german-committee-investigating-us-spying/

    narciso (24b824)

  70. 64. the united states of tuberculosis

    gack
    happyfeet (8ce051) — 7/7/2014 @ 6:06 pm

    I saw this and abought about you.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUKDj_x5B6w

    Rodrigo Y Gabriela Live in Amsterdam Part 11/13 (Stairway to Heaven)

    Steve57 (efd576)

  71. #69 Steve, These consequences are “unintended” only because HteWon’s lackies are clueless about technology, weapons development, world history, economics, etc. They figure that if they can shut down our military for a year or ten, that will accomplish what they want. But (some) life goes on, and perhaps there are a few capitalists who are harboring non-PC development efforts that ignore global warming, diversity, social justice, etc., and instead focus on stealth, range, speed, and maintainability. The P-51 was a game changer in WWII, and my hope is that we will have its grandkids in four years.

    But we won’t if we have to buy them from the Chinese. And if the higher ecelons in the Pentagon regard us as their targets, then it is all over.

    bobathome (5ccbd8)

  72. Herein lies the problem, why I’ve dubbed him “Alinsky’s Sorcerer’s apprentice,’ yes cutting the defense budget by a third, was his promise to the Iowa peace pledge, and ‘electricity prices, naturally spiking,’ is another promise kept, but I don’t think he really understands the consequences
    of either,

    narciso (24b824)

  73. …These consequences are “unintended” only because HteWon’s lackies are clueless about technology, weapons development, world history, economics….

    Here, sir, we will have to agree to disagree.

    Steve57 (efd576)

  74. Thank you Dana.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  75. I’ve just updated the post with some bitter irony.

    Dana (4dbf62)

  76. Ah, yes, the limousine liberals (or are they actually champagne socialists?) stroking, caressing and tinkling over one another. Hugs and kisses, hugs and kisses. Whether at fundraisers or movie premieres, their hearts are in the right place. Their compassion runneth over. Their love is pure and golden. And isn’t that the only thing that matters between and among liberals?

    Mark (cb6333)

  77. My cousin lives in north San Diego County, and her area was hit pretty hard by wildfires [...] his security and staff detail made everything into a Chinese fire drill (are we not supposed to say that any longer?).

    Even if we can still say it, it might be a bit of an unfortunate expression in this context :-)

    Milhouse (b95258)

  78. This is what President Justin Beiber is doing, just in general.

    Hey, lay your rhetorical hands off Justin :-)

    Milhouse (b95258)

  79. 46. elissa (b62c4b) — 7/7/2014 @ 5:01 pm

    Please regale us with your solution to the problem, Sammy,

    There are no real solutions, not wise ones.

    There are pretend solutions, and there are expensive ones that would take a long time to work, and there are immoral ones and currently illegal ones, and that’s all there is.

    If a business is failing, if a car is broken, if a fixture doesn’t work, and smeone comes up with afaulty idea as to how to change it, it is no answer to say to omeone who objects, well, then, tell me how would you fix it?

    Sammy Finkelman (cd2969)

  80. Sammy, you’ve really allowed the mask to come off these past few weeks with Hillary’s crack-up and the invasion of our southern border.
    Why don’t you just be honest and admit that you don’t want to impede the flow of all of these future Democrat voters ?

    Elephant Stone (5c2aa0)


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