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6/27/2014

Illegal Children Will Get Sent Back, Obama Lies

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:17 am

Ed Morrissey applauds Obama’s statement, apparently not recognizing how dishonest it is:

After a few weeks of a flood of minors entering the US illegally via smugglers and cartels, Barack Obama finally offered an unequivocal and strong statement that the effort will ultimately be futile. The signals from Washington DC on executive actions to end deportations and grant minors quasi-legal status set off a chain reaction that ended up having tens of thousands of children make their way through dangerous means to cross the southern border. This morning, Obama told George Stephanopoulos that all of these children will get sent back…

“Oh,” said Obama, “our message absolutely is don’t send your children unaccompanied on trains or through a bunch of smugglers. That is our direct message to families in Central America. Do not send your children to the borders. If they do make it, they’ll get sent back. More importantly, they may not make it.”

Just one small problem. That’s a lie. ABC News recently reported:

At the moment, there is a backlog of more than 300,000 unaccompanied minor cases awaiting a decision on deportation due to a shortage of immigration judges and courts. It takes approximately 3-5 years to adjudicate each case.

During testimony today in front of the House Judiciary Committee, Tom Homan, the Executive Associate Director for Enforcement and Removal Operations with ICE testified about the reality of the backlog problem.
“I can say that every unaccompanied child and every family unit member are served with NTAs (Notice to Appear in immigration court) and … there’s a lack of immigration judges and some of these hearings take years.”

In fact, while 26,000 unaccompanied children were apprehended entering the United States illegally last year, only 1800 minors were sent back to their home countries.

“87% of those are still here in proceedings … Because we have no final orders,” Homan said.

And the problem has gotten worse. To date, more than 54,000 children have been apprehended just this year — a 99% increase from last year.

Kids don’t get sent back to their native countries. They get sent to their relatives in the U.S., or just released onto the streets. Ed Morrissey says, I think naively:

Now that this crisis has begun to impede on the White House’s efforts to get immigration reform back on track, the administration has started to treat it like a crisis. A new detention center has opened in New Mexico with the mission to fast-track deportations for the flood of refugees. It also spells the end of the so-called “catch and release” policy.

I seriously doubt that. I told you about this new detention center a few days ago. It has 700 beds. Check the numbers from that ABC report again. We’ve had over 54,000 new illegal children cross the border in less than half a year — thanks to Obama’s unilateral decisions and irresponsible rhetoric.

I understand why Obama would want to lie to us about this, but let’s not get taken in, please. He’s not doing anything serious — and the American people need to understand that.

P.S. What are the consequences of this flood of illegal immigrants? Here’s one: disease. NewsWest9.com in West Texas reports:

A major concern about housing those unaccompanied immigrant children crossing our border: the spread of disease. It’s an issue they’re trying to tackle in Artesia, New Mexico, just a couple of hours away from here.

Health risks are certainly one of the main concerns of officials and residents in Artesia, where hundreds of undocumented women and children where brought this week. NewsWest 9 investigated to see what those health risks are and what the state and shelters are doing to prevent them.

In the 29 federal resettlement shelters, nearly 60,000 vaccine doses have been distributed to the unaccompanied minors who made the trek from Central America to the United States. The spokeswoman for the Department of State and Health Services says, per request, they sent 2,000 vaccines to an international childrens shelter in South Texas.

“In this particular incident, we were able to get them vaccined quicker than their normal method of ordering through Vaccines for Children,” Spokeswoman for the Department of State and Health Services, Christine Mann, said.

Well, that’s nice. I guess that means that the illegal children are being vaccinated more quickly than legal children. Does that mean that it will take longer for some children who are citizens to be vaccinated? I don’t see how it couldn’t. Vaccines, like any other resource, are scarce.

I support greater levels of legal immigration from Mexico and Central American countries, so that we can say with a straight face that people who want to do it the right way, can. Part of that process screens for criminal records and disease. By contrast, when illegals stream across the border en masse and receive a pat on the head and a notice to appear, there is no telling what diseases they bring with them.

But just keep telling yourselves that any opposition to open borders is racist, limousine liberals. After all, it probably won’t be your kids who end up getting TB as a result.

41 Responses to “Illegal Children Will Get Sent Back, Obama Lies”

  1. It’s darker than you think, Patterico. This is all a trap to being these kids into the flesh tradee and into the bootleg organ transplant trade. It is the most evil thing perpetrated by the United States since the extermination of the Indians. The rich old and sick, and the degenerates, on both sides of the political divide, are complicit. These kids will disappear but not into the shadows. Some will be sex slaves; most will be dead and harvested for their organs. The Notices to Appear are death warrants.

    No human being should be silent about this. Please tell everyone you know about this great evil that is being perpetrated.

    nk (dbc370)

  2. nk, is that just paranoid speculation from the dark side, or do you have some reasonable basis for the assertion?

    ropelight (9519e7)

  3. I don’t know nk, I think they may be brought into the homes of the elitist leftists and Hollywood snobs as surrogates for their frigid leftist wives. Besides, the left has spent the last 40+ years aborting the babies of minorities and the poor so they have to replace these “lost” voters some way. Bingo! Amnesty for illegals and bring on the children as future Democrat constituents.

    Hoagie (4dfb34)

  4. Ropelight, nk may have put out some paranoid speculation but if you can give me a more logical reason for bringing in under age children, too young to “do the jobs Americans won’t do” I’ll listen. There is no good reason to encourage under age children to leave their parents, family, home and country and travel hundreds perhaps thousands of miles that I’m aware of unless there is some kind of genocide going on in South America I’m unaware of.

    Hoagie (4dfb34)

  5. I support greater levels of legal immigration from Mexico and Central American countries

    Such sentiment merely ramps up the mindless ideology — of compassion for compassion’s sake — that is roiling the left and affecting plenty of squishy Americans, or well-off capitalist conservatives who see lots of poor people streaming into this country and think ka-ching, the same way that planation owners of generations ago saw and treated ships packed full of people from Africa arriving in US ports.

    Oh, well, at least most of the kids who are either “undocumented” themselves or are the offspring of the “undocumented” will do well scholastically and raise the academic profile of the US in the future. So we have that sunny prospect to look forward to.

    Mark (fdb0fc)

  6. I pray that I am wrong. But I’m afraid that it will only get worse. With a plentitude of organs and with Obamacare, the mainstream medical community will be drawn into it. It will not be able to resist the lure of money. Organ “donors” records will be fudged and hospital administrators and doctors will turn a blind to irregularities in provenance. The organ transplant industry will become as big as the mood-enhancer industry.

    There is nothing more I wish than that I am wrong. But the potential evil, even if it is only potential, is too enormous to remain silent. People should be aware of this. Maybe just talking about it, letting the monsters know that we are on to them, may deter it. Maybe responsible people everywhere will take steps to put safeguards into place. In the end, even if I am wrong, it can only help these potential victims. But silence could mean the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocents.

    nk (dbc370)

  7. I think this would be a wonderful opportunity for us Native Americans (oh yes we are) to pause for a moment and give thanks for the many great contributions of the Hispanic community and their culture to our society. Their peaceful and generous nature makes them ideal citizens and neighbors, lending testimony to their exceptional family values and parenting skills unrivaled by any other culture. Their commitment to academic excellence enriches our schools and serves as an example to all who hope to achieve prominence as a people. Real Estate values are fueled by the influx of Hispanics into an area due to their caring and respectful nurturing of these communities, an example of all they have achieved by their enthusiasm for self-improvement through hard work and a self-reliant can-do nature. Without their industrious and creative drive, we would be poorer as a nation.

    Presently enriching the cities of San Antonio, Austin, Houston, San Diego, Laredo, and many more cities where they congregate or are offered sanctuary. One should drop by these cities and watch the beauty of the Hispanic culture in all its glory.

    Hoagie (4dfb34)

  8. “I support greater levels of legal immigration from Mexico and Central American countries, so that we can say with a straight face that people who want to do it the right way, can. “

    Well I don’t. We have accepted far, far too many immigrants over the last several decades. Many more than we can possibly assimilate especially in the current PC climate. Immigrants generally and Hispanics primarily bring to this country an ideology of the country they’re from and those countries are mostly socialist and left of traditional American values. So where do you think they will fall in our political culture, Republican or Democrat? Does this country really need more voters who see the federal government as a sugar daddy granting every wish they desire? I don’t think so.

    Until every single current immigrant can read, write and speak American English we should not let another enter our country. And none should be allowed based solely on economic need or desires.

    This from a guy with an immigrant Korean wife. I am well aware of how immigrants, even those from a first world country like South Korea think. My wife is the exception. I deal with Koreans all the time and keep asking them one question: “How the hell do you vote for Obama, twice and call yourself a businessman?”. The answer is always because Obama represents the “hand-out” mentality they bring from their homeland.

    Hoagie (4dfb34)

  9. The vaccination thing isn’t credible — Central American kids are as likely to be vaccinated as US kids. Vaccination rates are around 93% in both places according to the World Bank.

    http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.IMM.MEAS (measles)

    Kevin M (b357ee)

  10. Couldn’t they just put them on Amtrak, for NYC?

    askeptic (8ecc78)

  11. 9- As if anyone believe the World Bank, or any other international NGO.

    askeptic (8ecc78)

  12. The hostility to immigrants by some Republicans, fearing they will become Dems, is partly self-fulfilling. But even if they do, having some members of the Democrat Party being hard-working, upwardly-mobile and socially conservative would be an improvement.

    The current legal immigration system discriminates against workers and favors dependents almost exclusively, at least from Mexico and Central America. To get in, you have to be related to someone here, usually a spouse or a parent; the quotas are exhausted before any unrelated worker is admitted.

    This is exactly upside down from what one would want.

    Kevin M (b357ee)

  13. As if anyone believe the World Bank, or any other international NGO.

    About statistics? I’d prefer their data to what someone pulls out of their ass. It’s one of the few things they do well, since all it is is measurement. It’s not the statistics that are in question, it’s their analysis of what to do about it that is FUBAR.

    Kevin M (b357ee)

  14. What Obama is doing though, is making it almost impossible for anyone to argue for immigration reform (even sane reform). He is so poisoning the well with radical extra-legal activity and refusal to enforce the law that even people who would welcome this type of immigrant must oppose the means.

    He has found a way for the means to refute the ends. Pretty effing amazing the way his Midas Minus Touch works.

    Kevin M (b357ee)

  15. Kevin, does the phrase “Figures lie, and liars figure” ring a bell?
    The accuracy, and veracity, of the numbers released are only as reliable as the eithics of the person compiling and/or releasing them.

    askeptic (8ecc78)

  16. The data are subject to comparison with others’ and I invite you to have at it. But I will take published survey data over simple assertions any day, since published data that is bogus can be falsified, but assertions are mud forts.

    Kevin M (b357ee)

  17. If you’re Obama and you lied your butt off to sell Obamacare, why would you stop lying now? The press is with you, as is the vast majority of the Democrat party? Lying isn’t a bug, it’s a feature with this group.

    East Bay Jay (a5dac7)

  18. Yes, we’ve seen the accuracy of the data from the BLS the past several years, haven’t we?

    askeptic (8ecc78)

  19. Seeing as the cartels and the coyotes, are the middlemen in this operation, one can’t hope but fear the worst, Mexico never allows transit for those South of their border.

    narciso (3fec35)

  20. Why would tattooed gang members want to come into the radar along with the kids, when they could just sneak across? They’re there to pick out and separate the victims.

    nk (dbc370)

  21. I will take published survey data over simple assertions any day, since published data that is bogus can be falsified

    In principle they can be, but often not in practise, since most people don’t have the ability to re-collect the raw data.

    “The government are very keen on amassing statistics. They collect them, add them, raise them to the nth power, take the cube root and prepare wonderful diagrams. But you must never forget that every one of these figures comes in the first instance from the village watchman, who just puts down what he damn pleases.” — Sir Josiah Stamp

    Milhouse (b95258)

  22. Nancy Pelosi’s daughter Alexandra (the documentary filmmaker) is also concerned about human trafficking in the southern border, too. She says the problem has been exacerbated by both the media and the president who is relying on rhetoric, not action, to stop this influx.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2014/06/27/alexandra-pelosi-obama-admin-media-enabling-human-trafficking-at-the-border/

    elissa (0b3bcd)

  23. Yes, we’ve seen the accuracy of the data from the BLS the past several years, haven’t we?

    Now you’re talking US government statistics. But again, the data they collect is accurate, it’s the way they put it together that isn’t. You would be amazed what you can see in the supporting data tables if you don’t let them spin it.

    Kevin M (b357ee)

  24. If they make a movie about Obama, I suggest they call it Sh1tfinger.

    Here’s the theme song:

    “Sh1tfinger, he’s the man
    The man with the minus tough
    A grifter’s touch
    Such a mid finger
    Becksons you to enter his web of lies
    But don’t believe…”

    Kevin M (b357ee)

  25. arghhh, “beckons”

    Kevin M (b357ee)

  26. 12.The hostility to immigrants by some Republicans, fearing they will become Dems, is partly self-fulfilling. But even if they do, having some members of the Democrat Party being hard-working, upwardly-mobile and socially conservative would be an improvement.

    Sorry Kevin M, but it just ain’t so. They are none of the above. Hispanics are as hard-working as they have to be to collect as many of the 27 government handouts they can, beyond that THEY WORK UNDER THE TABLE! They are not upwardly-mobile as they come from a culture of government dependence and will continue to do so UNLESS FORCED TO ASSIMILATE! And they are not socially conservative because there is no such thing. Either one is a conservative or one is not. Saying one is socially conservative is like saying one is a Catholic but does not believe in the Pope. There’s a word for that: Protestant. Stop buying the propaganda spewed by leftists to get their future voters into the US. Just stop!

    The left is trying to change the racial demographic of the United States to perpetuate their power and consolidate a secular, extra-constitutional government. If you can’t see that then you’re not part of the discussion, you’re part of the problem.

    Hoagie (4dfb34)

  27. Kevin M (b357ee) — 6/27/2014 @ 12:10 pm

    Ah, it’s “Fake but Accurate”.
    Maroon!

    askeptic (8ecc78)

  28. askeptic,

    name calling means you have no argument.

    Kevin M (b357ee)

  29. Ah, it’s “Fake but Accurate”.

    Perhaps. All data can be challenged. But you don’t even have “fake.”

    Find me something on the interwebs that shows that US kids have better immunization rates than kids in central america — I went looking for just that and found it was not true. It used to be, but too many soccer moms read about autism on some starlet’s website and opted little precious out.

    Kevin M (b357ee)

  30. I was reading somethinbg about rates of autism among Hispanics. Apparently, it’s a
    little higher. they were only looking wheer the motehrs weer born, though)

    http://www.autismspeaks.org/science/science-news/severe-autism-immigrant-and-minority-families

    I don’t know what it really means.

    Sammy Finkelman (1b5048)

  31. “Oh,” said Obama, “our message absolutely is don’t send your children unaccompanied on trains or through a bunch of smugglers. That is our direct message to families in Central America. Do not send your children to the borders. If they do make it, they’ll get sent back. More importantly, they may not make it.”

    Not make it = they will die.

    In what kind of a universe is that a good message to send?

    Sammy Finkelman (1b5048)

  32. Does that mean that it will take longer for some children who are citizens to be vaccinated? I don’t see how it couldn’t. Vaccines, like any other resource, are scarce.

    Come on, that’s ridiculous.

    Only flu vaccines are made in limited quantities.

    This is no more going to cause a vaccine shortage than feeding them will cause a food shortage.

    Sammy Finkelman (1b5048)

  33. I support greater levels of legal immigration from Mexico and Central American countries, so that we can say with a straight face that people who want to do it the right way, can

    There are people who say close the borders first. That way, it will never happen.

    Only when you have made it posisble for peope who really, really want to to immigrate legally, can you hope to take measures against doing things the other way.

    If you want both, the expansion of legal immigration has to come first, not the other way around, which is total non-starter.

    And doing them both at the same time, so-called “comprehensive immigration reform” is dead too.

    The only option remaining is amnesty and expanded legal immigration first, and then you can talk about closig this avenue.

    Sammy Finkelman (1b5048)

  34. Come on, that’s ridiculous.

    Only flu vaccines are made in limited quantities.

    This is no more going to cause a vaccine shortage than feeding them will cause a food shortage.
    Sammy Finkelman (1b5048) — 6/27/2014 @ 3:58 pm

    Sammy, I love you, But….EVERYTHING is made in limited quantities. That my friend, is economics. Everything is made according to what?…….Supply and demand. Understand?

    And Mr. Finkelmen, to say

    Only when you have made it posisble for peope who really, really want to to immigrate legally, can you hope to take measures against doing things the other way.

    is completely insane. Absolutely no one, no one should be able to immigrate, nor emigrate to our country. We are not the depository of the crap of the world, nor the possible terrorists of the world. To think so makes you either an idiot or an accomplice.

    Hoagie (4dfb34)

  35. The Cap’n and Allah at HotAir seem by my rough guess to be working just 4 days a week. The brand is collapsing.

    gary gulrud (46ca75)

  36. Ed Morrissey applauds Obama’s statement, apparently not recognizing how dishonest it is:

    Try sticking a “Kick Me” signs to his back. If you have repeated success with that ancient gag and he fails to catch on, it’ll explain why he can be snowed by things Obama will say that everyone else knows is nothing but horse crap.

    Blacque Jacques Shellacque (b14ea2)

  37. FROM ‘ON-THE-BORDER-BY-THE-SEA’ and 1.5 miles from the border………………

    The child INVADERS (with and without pregnant mothers) are being vaccinated on arrival. We have already hospitalized one child with identified H1N1 FLU and ‘numbers’ of “children” with HIV have been identified. Gang members (MS13,etc.) are included and have been pictured by local media. ICE spokesman stated no way to prove or disprove membership or age so these ‘children’ have to be treated as all other children.

    The INVASION (not ‘humanitarian crisis’) is now predicted locally to be in excess of 90,000 children
    this year. LOCAL CITIZENS/CHURCHES are supplying all the supplies, food and treatment facilities, hygiene and clothing needs. There is NO assistance from fed gov, FEMA. Red Cross, etc. Border patrol members are over-whelmed and they have been forbidden to speak publically, talk on/take pictures with cell phones, etc. WE ARE DOOMED!

    MJBees (6183ba)

  38. nk (dbc370) — 6/27/2014 @ 7:34 am

    This is all a trap to being these kids into the flesh tradee and into the bootleg organ transplant trade.

    There is no bootleg transplant trade. Transplants have to be done at just about the same time an orgaan is taken out. This basically can only be done at a hospital.

    What you might get is strong incentives.

    It wouldn’t be secret. It would be something like: anyone who donates a kidney (which would be still be “uncompensated” and voluntary) – gets free medical insurance for life – and, by the way, can stay in the Uniited States indefinitely.

    It would become law without anybody noticing, the way the ability to change sex on a birth certificate and for all legal purposes became law – quietly, and virtually without controversy.

    But I don’t see anything like this in the works.

    What some people are trying to do is to allow donors to gte paid. Especially there is one thing taht used to be complicated to do and is now easy, but is still classified as an organ – something to do with blood.

    It is the most evil thing perpetrated by the United States since the extermination of the Indians. The rich old and sick, and the degenerates, on both sides of the political divide, are complicit. These kids will disappear but not into the shadows. Some will be sex slaves; most will be dead and harvested for their organs. The Notices to Appear are death warrants.

    No human being should be silent about this. Please tell everyone you know about this great evil that is being perpetrated.

    Sammy Finkelman (9ec422)

  39. Hoagie (4dfb34) — 6/27/2014 @ 5:29 pm

    Sammy, I love you, But….EVERYTHING is made in limited quantities. That my friend, is economics. Everything is made according to what?…….Supply and demand. Understand?

    You are talking an increase of something like 1% or 2% in demand. If something is paid for, supply will go up, and/or wastage will be squeezed out. At these levels, it’s totally insignificant. You don’t even get spot shortages. TThere;s enough lead time to manufacture more.

    If there was already a shortage, then you would have a minor argument, but then the problem would be the shortage that already existed, which would be a problem regardless of whetehr or not you had to deal with afew other people. If you didn’t already have a squeeze, this is nothing.

    The other point is, people are being vaccinated on the basis of where is the greatest risk to the U.S. population in general. They are trying to prevent a “herd” of non-immunized people from forming and being physically present in the Uniited States..

    It’s actually probably not necessary, becaus ethere is no sign of any epidemic (epidemics occur sporadically) but is done for reasons of mass vaccination. Mass vaccination is not considered basically an individual protection, although it is sold that way. It’s not really a protection for the persons being vaccinated so much as it is for everyone else.

    Sammy Finkelman (9ec422)

  40. i> Absolutely no one, no one should be able to immigrate, nor emigrate to our country. We are not the depository of the crap of the world, nor the possible terrorists of the world. To think so makes you either an idiot or an accomplice.

    Are you holding that all immigration, of people, rich or poor, skilled or not, diminishes an is economy? This is refuted by history, ALL HISTORY BEFORE 1914 – and should apply to movement between states and cities, if true.

    Of course what is inscribed on the Statue of Liberty is not any kind of law, but this was happening at that time. It was a factual situation, and it’s not destructive. The usual arghumenty, that theer was a frontier then, is bith wrong and irrelevant, The frontier wwas over by 1890, and the immigrants by and large didn’t go there. And there is association withh unemplyment, except that immigration and igration tends to adjust to it.

    And what do you have when you have tight restrictions, but less than 100% enforcememt?

    What you have now, when you substantially reduce immigration…what’s the policy?

    The policy is that only desperate people – desperate to reunite with somebpdy, or desperate because of poverty, or because of fear of crime, do this. Other people are deterred.

    Why is that logical? And why should achieving the impossible, or nearly impossible, be a condition of doing other rational things with regard to immigration?

    .

    Sammy Finkelman (9ec422)

  41. Only totalitarian measures can totally defeat such strong economic and personal forces. Killing people, or having them die, is the alternative.

    A government that has the power to actually completely enforce an immigration law, is a government that has the power to destroy everybody.

    I can understand why Senator Schumer and Hillary Clinton can be for greater enforcement – and they are – but it’s hard to understand why anybody else should be.

    It doesn’t take so much to cut it in half, or by nine tenths.

    It’s the last few percent that everybody is talking about, and you can never reach zero.

    Sammy Finkelman (9ec422)


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