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Al Qaeda Affiliated Terrorists About to Get Their Own (Oil Rich) State

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 11:48 am

What could possibly go wrong?

“Baghdad is going to be overrun. The Green Zone is going down,” a U.S. intelligence official told Fox News Thursday.

The comment comes as the security situation in Iraq quickly deteriorates, with large swaths of the embattled country now controlled by a deadly Al Qaeda affiliated extremist group.

As our pal Morgen Richmond put it:

Making matters worse, Obama has not only been refusing to fight the war, but has been sending weapons to the Iraqis — who then surrender and give up those weapons to ISIS.

One day — once again — we will be fighting Islamic extremists wielding American weapons.

50 Responses to “Al Qaeda Affiliated Terrorists About to Get Their Own (Oil Rich) State”

  1. Plus ca change…

    Gazzer (6a76d0)

  2. How many hours or days until Obama appears at his latest fund-raiser to decry the “phony scandal” of the Iraq Meltdown?

    Criminal neglect, incompetence, malfeasance, are hallmarks of the Obama Administration.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  3. only our demise
    will make his putter flutter
    incompetent fool

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  4. Just a reminder of what kind of Iraq Obama inherited from Bush. This was printed by the WaPo in 2 January 2009:

    BAGHDAD — Maybe it was the only shot heard for days in a neighborhood once ordered by the cadence of gunfire. Perhaps it was the smiles at checkpoints and the shouts of Iraqi policemen navigating the always snarled traffic. “God’s mercy on your parents,” they beseeched. “God’s blessings on you.” Maybe it was the music box still playing “Santa Claus Is Coming to Town” at a kiosk overflowing with Christmas tree decorations and heart-shaped red pillows.

    For anyone returning to Baghdad after spending time here during its darkest days two years ago, when it was paralyzed by sectarian hatred and overrun by gunmen sowing despair, the conclusion seemed inescapable.

    “The war has ended,” said Heidar al-Abboudi, a street merchant.

    Naturally, being te WaPo they had to then go on to tell there readers how Bush was still evil and had eff’d everything up. And they changed the original headline (Shocking I know; the WaPo memory-holing stuff without noting the changes) which was a bit more optimistic and included words to the effect that the war was over. That was too optimistic, I guess. But the point stands, by any measure the war was over the day Obama was sworn into office.

    And Obama proceeded to kick over tables in Iraq and restart the war just like he kicked over tables throughout North Africa and the Middle East that would result in the Jihadi Spring of 2014 that we are currently experiencing.

    Bush didn’t create this crisis in 2003. It was Obama reversing course and destroying all the progress Bush had made by 2009.

    Steve57 (5f0260)

  5. Coronello @2, that’s going to have to wait until after Prom Queen’s golf vacation in Palm Springs.

    Steve57 (5f0260)

  6. “Give me a child until he is seven, and I will give you the man.”
    –St. Francis Xavier

    Obama was raised by Muslims until the age of 10.

    Kevin M (b357ee)

  7. I think we should be pinning the Jihadi Spring on Hillary. She’s the one who made it happen.

    Kevin M (b357ee)

  8. surprise, not really;

    there’s also the chilling promise Abu Dua made to the warden of Camp Bucca, ‘see you in New York;

    narciso (3fec35)

  9. J KERRY: Sir! I have a plan, sir.


    B OBAMA: What happens now?
    J KERRY: Well, now, uh, Hagel, Holder, and I, uh, wait until nightfall,
    and then leap out of the rabbit, taking the Iraqis, uh, by surprise. Not
    only by surprise, but totally unarmed!
    B OBAMA: Who leaps out?
    J KERRY: U– u– uh, Hagel, Holder, and I. Uh, leap out of the rabbit,
    uh, and uh…
    B OBAMA: Ohh.
    J KERRY: Oh. Um, l– look, i– i– if we built this large wooden badger–
    B OBAMA: Run away!
    CABINET: Run away! Run away! Run away! Run away! Run away! Run away!
    Run away!

    Regret (da8b6e)

  10. Hey Regret! I feel like you haven’t been here in years! Nice to see you. Where have you been?!

    Patterico (9c670f)

  11. We have a malevolently stupid person running this country, and, no, I don’t think that characterization is overly harsh or overly partisan.

    For instance, I recall being similarly irritated — and remain so to this day — by George W Bush’s compassionate-conservative, what-me-worry response during his years in the White House towards illegal immigration, people like Harriet Miers, and all the bloated budgets sent to him by the Congress. But those were tidbits — minor infractions — compared with the avalanche of lunacy exhibited by Jeremiah Wright’s buddy now occupying the Oval Office.

    By itself, I could hold my nose and somewhat tolerate Obama’s tactics towards Iraq. But when placed against the broader background of other aspects of Obama and the Middle East in particular, I truly believe that — once again — the description of malevolent stupidity fits Barry to a T., January 2014: While the Transportation Security Administration has become notorious around the world for abusing air travelers and infringing on the unalienable rights of Americans…members of at least one group were spared the humiliating Homeland Security “theater” humiliation by orders from unnamed Obama administration officials. No, it was not young children, grandmothers, or even nuns.

    Instead, newly released documents confirm that the radical Muslim Brotherhood got VIP treatment from federal bureaucrats at U.S. airports. Of course, the radical Islamist outfit, admittedly dedicated to a establishing a global Muslim caliphate, has myriad connections to terrorism and jihad that have been documented by multiple governments — and even the U.S. government itself. It also has multiple connections to the Obama administration, which has become one of its chief global defenders and enablers.

    According to records in a document obtained via Freedom of Information Act request by the Investigative Project on Terrorism, the special treatment for Muslim Brotherhood operatives was orchestrated by the U.S. State Department, at the time under the leadership of then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

    It was not clear who wrote the entries, who received them, or under whose orders the Muslim Brotherhood operatives were granted the wide array of special privileges that even taxpaying Americans are not afforded. The controversial developments, however, were originally reported by the Investigative Project on Terrorism in 2012, with the latest release of documents mostly confirming the organization’s previous reports. At the time, one U.S. official described the security protocol exemptions for the Brotherhood as “extraordinary.”

    By the time of the visit to the United States, the Brotherhood’s “Freedom and Justice Party” had secured some electoral victories in parliamentary elections following the Obama administration-backed overthrow of former U.S. ally and Egyptian strongman Hosni Mubarak. However, the visit came before now-deposed Muslim Brotherhood leader Mohammed Morsi became president and began implementing hardline Islamist rule in Egypt. The organization has now been declared a terrorist group by Egyptian authorities following bombings.

    Mark (75db68)

  12. The good news is that there are no golf courses in hell, plus knowing that the JEF will eternally be forced to listen to Mooch complain. We do have that much to look forward to.

    PPs43 (6fdef4)

  13. Hi Patrick – I’ve just been watching Monty Python reruns… and lurking in the shadows.

    Regret (da8b6e)

  14. The only good news is that ISIS is too insane to govern for very long. But if Iran controls things, that means Russia has a hand in it too, and that is bad. Putin has stepped up the violence in Ukraine.
    Is he mad enough to start WW III?

    And it looks like Obama will throw in with Iran to give them Iraq. After he gets back from his golf vacation, of course.

    Patricia (5fc097)

  15. True, but so were the Khmer Rouge, or more to the point the Taliban, besides their sponsor is wealthy enough to cause real damage,

    narciso (3fec35)

  16. the earlier reference,

    one recalls the Iranians and the Russians backed the Northern Alliance, up until the time that Mohammed Fazl facilitated the offensive that led to Massoud’s assasination, and the signal to
    start the 9/11 attack

    narciso (3fec35)

  17. Jihadi Recovery Summer!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  18. Obama. The best President Russia ever had.

    nk (dbc370)

  19. Middle East mutates
    the time of teh festering
    sets the world on fire

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  20. this ain’t no disco
    what happens there won’t stay there
    it ain’t Las Vegas

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  21. Barack Obama… Worst. President. Ever.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  22. Let’s hope so,Colonel.

    Gazzer (6a76d0)

  23. add to that the suicide bomber from Vero Beach;

    this is probably akin to the hit on Meir Kahane.

    narciso (3fec35)

  24. a reasonable piece on the subject, well see what you think:

    narciso (3fec35)

  25. It reminds me of the success of the first crusade. The Franks were very tough fighters and quickly adapted to the terrain as well as eastern warfare, which was completely different from what they were used to, very successfully.

    But their successes were largely due to the weakness and divisions in the Muslim world, not their strength. Which if the case of the crusaders was formidable, but not formidable enough to take Jerusalem in the Muslims’ backyard had they been united. As Saladin later demonstrated.

    I see the success of ISIS in Iraq in a similar vein. Except ISIS is nowhere near as strong, disciplined and capable as the crusaders. They’re a mob. They’re united in their fanatacism, but they’re still a mob. Their success doesn’t demonstrate their power so much as reveal that the countries they’re having success in are so weak and fragmented even a mob can take over large portions of their territory.

    I was reading one account that in Mosul 30,000 soldiers defending the city fled when 800 ISIS killers approached. I don’t know if I necessarily believe those numbers but the Iraqis vastly outnumbered the ISIS forces and still the Iraqis dropped their weapons, stripped off their uniforms, and ran.

    Steve57 (5f0260)

  26. Yes, that part I don’t get, how did they think this would end well,

    narciso (3fec35)

  27. Dear America,

    I’m watching the U.S. Open this weekend.
    I’m also playing some golf in the Palm Springs area.
    The Iraq thing can wait until Monday.



    Elephant Stone (17ce2d)

  28. Obama is “thinking” about what actions to implement in Iraq upon his return from his fund raising/golf weekend. So as to not confuse his thinking, he reportedly left all security advisers back in DC. Apparently he’ll catch up on things when he returns. Of course, by then the Russians may have tanks rolling into the square in Kiev and join the Iranians in Iraq, while the ISIS group negotiates with Pakistani al Qaeda/Taliban groups to lay their hands on a nuke. Buut being Presidnet is tough work and the man needs his downtime.

    in_awe (7c859a)

  29. Steve57 (5f0260) — 6/14/2014 @ 6:16 pm

    I was reading one account that in Mosul 30,000 soldiers defending the city fled when 800 ISIS killers approached. I don’t know if I necessarily believe those numbers but the Iraqis vastly outnumbered the ISIS forces and still the Iraqis dropped their weapons, stripped off their uniforms, and ran

    The number of men ISIS has may be underestimated,but it has been said they have about 10,000 (1 division) of which 3,000 to 5,000 are in Iraw, and maybe 1,000 of thjem are chasing the whole Iraqi army, and that 4 divisions (40,000) melted away. They may be trying to scare people.

    How this worked seems to be that they has snipers (who maybe got a lot of experience in syria, shooting at anything that moved) In Iraq they shot at higher offiecrs, killing the brave and dedicated ones, and causing all the others to take off their uniforms and flee, leaving their amry leaderless, and causing the whole army to run, after taking off their uniforms, and as time went on the soldiers came prepared, putting civilian clothes under their uniforms.

    Sammy Finkelman (97c2e3)

  30. 2. Willful, considered treason tops the list.

    gary gulrud (46ca75)

  31. I thin the Turks may want in on the Mosul oil. Tikrit better be making mo sons.

    gary gulrud (46ca75)

  32. There is a possible conflict between ISIS and Turkey if ISIS turns out to be bigger. ISIS captured some 72 tanks and lots of other military equipment, but they probably need defectors from thesyrian or Iraqi army for them to be able to use it.

    The city of Kirkuk was rescued by the Kurds.

    Nobody saw this coming. Thomas Friedman was there two weeks ago – he likes the Kurds and the Governor of Kirkuk – and he didn’t see this coming.

    The front cover of this week’s New York Times Magazine (prepared early in the week) has a picture of some black troops with red berets- about ten of them – walking trhough some country dirt road and the white lettering says:


    on the African Front by Eliza Griswold

    on page 4,
    the Table of Contents has:

    by Eliza Griswold

    As the struggle against terrorism
    shifts increasingly from
    the Middle East to remote and
    ungoverned areas in Africa,
    the United States faces a tricky
    balance: how to fight
    an enemy without doing the
    fighting itself.

    Sammy Finkelman (97c2e3)

  33. If a bit player, like Bagdadi could cause this much havok, imagine what these will do;

    narciso (3fec35)

  34. Baghdadi is not a bit player. He’s a contender for Caliph.

    Sammy Finkelman (97c2e3)

  35. Wow, Sammy… Thomas Friedman “didn’t see this coming”. That settles it… Kirkuk was a shocker.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  36. I’ll quote it again. It is not the willingness to kill that is needed, it is the willingness to die.

    No Cowardice
    I want both the Hindus and Mussalmans to cultivate the cool courage to die without killing. But if one has not that courage, I want him to cultivate the art of killing and being killed rather than, in a cowardly manner, flee from danger. For the latter, in spite of his flight, does commit mental himsa. He flees because he has not the courage to be killed in the act of killing.

    My method of nonviolence can never lead toloss of strength, but it alone will make it possible, if the nation wills it, to offer disciplined and concerted violence in time of danger.

    My creed of nonviolence is an extremely active force. It has no room for cowardice or even weakness. There is hope for a violent man to be some day non-violent, but there is none for a coward. I have, therefore, said more than once….that, if we do not know how to defend ourselves, our women and our places of worship by the force of suffering, i.e., nonviolence, we must, if we are men, be at least able to defend all these by fighting.

    No matter how weak a person is in body, if it is a shame to flee, he will stand his ground and die at his post. This would be nonviolence and bravery. No matter how weak he is, he will use what strength he has in inflicting injury on his opponent, and die in the attempt. This is bravery, but not nonviolence. If, when his duty is to face danger, he flees, it is cowardice. In the first case, the man will have love or charity in him. In the second and third cases, there would be a dislike or distrust and fear.

    My nonviolence does admit of people, who cannot or will not be nonviolent, holding and making effective use of arms. Let me repeat for the thousandth time that nonviolence is of the strongest, not of the weak.

    To run away from danger, instead of facing it, is to deny one’s faith in man and God, even one’s own self. It were better for one to drown oneself than live to declare such bankruptcy of faith.

    Gandhi understands: What will you give? The chattering class, and their Empty Chair, maybe not.

    htom (412a17)

  37. “Committed to Obama’s forest road, Western security chiefs are already warning a new generation of al-Qaeda, more powerful than the last, has been forged in the furnaces of Syria, Libya, Iraq, Africa and Afghanistan ready to attack. We already know, if we haven’t guessed already, that Obama is not going to stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon, which in any event, Pakistan already has. It’s more than likely the West will face attacks in the near future that will make 9/11 look like a Sunday School picnic by comparison.”.
    – Belmont Club – In Search of Plan C

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  38. 35. Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 6/15/2014 @ 9:40 am

    Wow, Sammy… Thomas Friedman “didn’t see this coming”. That settles it… Kirkuk was a shocker.

    It didn’t make the cover o this week’s TIME Magazine, or “The Week” but it did make the cover of “The Economist.”

    The news came out Wednesday, as to a total surprise to almost everyone.

    TIME Magazine’s front cover is:

    Eat Butter
    Scientists labeled fat the enemy/ Why they were wrong.

    Of course, there was a conspiracy here – I’d like his detailed. They destrped a best selling book (1961) “Calories Don’t Count” by Dr. Herman Taller, M.D. to the point where the book was completely forgotten and Dr. Robert Atkins could pretend he invented his whole theory in 1963 by himself. (Atkins added some things that weren’t correct – he was against fruit)

    The Week has a series of stories on its front page.

    The big one, a drawing of Hillary as a jockey (this was right after the Belmont) wiith the headline:

    Off and running
    Hillary Clinton’s bog head start
    in the 2016 presidential race

    Also a few stories, with smaller pictures, on the top:


    TALKING POINTS: Having pets instead of children p. 17 (the Pope had spoken about that)

    PEOPLE: Why Keira is so frosty p. 8

    Sammy Finkelman (97c2e3)

  39. The economist mst have gone to press a bit later:

    The big headline:

    new HQ

    The rise of ISIS in
    Iraq and Syria

    In green space,, and yopu see silluttes of men carryiong rifles.

    also, across teh top:


    And a a series of stories:

    Republicans find their Inner Brat
    Pakistan: Generals 1, Sharif, 0
    The wisdom of dumb money
    Golf and the Chinese dream
    Lessons from penalty shoot-outs.

    Sammy Finkelman (97c2e3)

  40. A bit more from “in Search of Plan C” @37:

    Yet think for a moment what it might mean if McCarthy is right and Radical Islam is the enemy?

    The horrifying implications of treating Islam as an enemy akin to Nazism were explored in 2003 in my essay The Three Conjectures. It argued that the nature of warfare in the region would eventually compel the West to adopt Islamic rules of fighting, for Muslims would resist destruction to the full extent of human ingenuity which centuries of their tragic history had taught them. The West would be forced to fight like them, since they could fight no other way, which eventually would result in the literal extermination of the Islamic world — or near enough.

    What we insist on calling “Radical Islam” is in fact just Islam. It’s important to remember that, because the Iraqi army isn’t dissolving and running away entirely because of cowardice or political divisions. It’s because, for the Sunnis, they know ISIS has religion on their side. Everything ISIS is doing is scripturally and doctrinally correct. It is all there in their Koran, the hadiths, and their legal texts. ISIS is in fact following the example of Muhammad, as is Boko Haram. Jihad is in fact the sixth pillar of Islam. They are commanded to attack and kill those who do not believe as the Muslims do, until they convert or submit to dhimmitude and are made to “feel themselves subdued” (i.e. humiliated). Anybody who is physically capable of jihad against the infidel but refuses to engage in it is a hypocrite according to Muhammad, and hypocrites will end up in hellfire along with the Christians, the Jews, and the idolators.

    You can pretend all you like, as both Republican and Democratic administrations have done, that there are some sort of concrete series of events that have caused a “cycle of violence.” For example, if Israel would just end its “illegal”occupation of “palestine” and withdraw to the ’67 borders all would be well. No, Islam demands Israel be wiped off the map because it is Jewish. There is nothing it can do except cease to exist. And the same goes for us.

    Know your enemy, first in a six part series.

    Stephen Coughlin, Part 1: Lectures on National Security & Counterterror Analysis (Introduction)

    Steve57 (5f0260)

  41. narcisso @40, I see that either as an attempt at Taqqiyah (concealment, deliberately misleading) or this guy doesn’t understand Islam.

    It might sound strange to say that, but many Muslims have no idea what the Quran and the hadiths have to say. 80% of Muslims are not Arabic speakers. There are a lot of approved translations (some by Al Azhar University, the highest authority in Sunni Islam) for teaching these Muslims the meaning of the Quran (these texts go to pains to make sure people know their translation is not the Quran, because apparently Allah only speaks Arabic). But many schools of thought frown on using translations.

    Pakistani Madrassas are supposedly respected for being able to teach boys to memorize the Quran by rote. But it’s important to remember that these Urdu speaking boys have no idea what they’re saying. They have just memorized a bunch of syllables in a particular order. I recall one western source, I forget if it was a diplomat or an academic, saying a Pakistani friend had told him once that he was proud of his religion and his ability to recite the Quran. One day he intended to get a book and find out what he’s been saying all these years.

    It is interesting to note that if you read the Quran and the hadiths Islam makes a distinction between mere Muslims and true believers. Islam means submission; a Muslim is one who has submitted. But becomeing a Muslim doesn’t imply belief. It just means doing what you are told.

    The point being that to anyone who takes Islam seriously, what ISiS is doing is not a “mad dream” but a religious obligation.

    As an aside, Sahih al-Bukhari and Sahih Muslim are the two most respected chroniclers of the hadiths, sahih meaning “authentic” or “genuine” and are nearly on par with the Quran. If not on par, which I’ve been told by some. Together they comprise the Sahihain, or the two Sahihs.

    They are available online here:

    Sunnah means the hadiths that directly record the life and sayings of Muhammad (as opposed to the life and sayings of his companions, which are presumed to be authoritative since they were directly instructed by Muhammad).

    A good Quran translation is

    Steve57 (5f0260)

  42. The Iraqi Prime Minister needs to resign or be impeached. He is the cause of this.

    The Emperor (4dcc08)

  43. There’s a helpful suggestion, TE. I’ll pass that on to my congresscritter.

    And replaced by?

    Steve57 (5f0260)

  44. Someone who can be a uniting factor to bring the shiites and sunnis together to fight their common enemy.

    The Emperor (72bb0c)

  45. And who in Iraq would that be?

    Steve57 (5f0260)

  46. I think Maliki is irrelevant now, thanks to our inaction, among other things.

    The terrorists are attacking the airport now in Baghdad. I hope our innocent people in the embassy get out. Obama and his State Department don’t have a good record on that.

    All that’s left is to pray.

    Patricia (5fc097)

  47. Thinking of the heads left along the side of the road by this advancing horde, it made me think of the scene in the Lord of the Rings when the Orcs catapult the heads of killed soldiers into Minas Tirith.
    Maybe John Kerry can edit his phase to be, “Reminiscent of Orcs”.
    That isn’t meant to be snark, it’s to illustrate how bad the situation is.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  48. That’s the narrative, it’s all Maliki’s fault.

    nk (dbc370)

  49. Tal A Far, won at great cost by Col, McMaster, Sinjar the site of the archive of foreign fighters, almost a third being from Libya, now Baghdad, Airport

    narciso (3fec35)

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