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5/30/2014

L.A. Times Calls Jay Carney “Bespeckled”

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 5:39 pm

Jay Carney resigned today. (Good riddance, by the way.) The L.A. Times article on Carney’s resignation describes him in this way:

Bespeckled and mild-mannered, Carney is known for a disciplined and rigid style of briefing the press during the daily on-camera back-and-forth at the White House. He generally sticks closely to pre-written talking points, except when interjecting a bit of editorial direction and media criticism aimed at his former reporter colleagues.

“Bespeckled”?

Judge for yourself:

Screen Shot 2014-05-30 at 5.34.57 PM
Above: the bespectacled, but not particularly bespeckled, Jay Carney

According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the definition of “bespeckled” is: “Mark[ed] or cover[ed] with a large number of small spots or patches of color.”

I don’t quite think Carney is spotted, but he does wear glasses. I’m guessing that’s what they meant.

Hey, it’s not like language is their business or anything . . .

P.S. In case they try to quietly correct it, the article is preserved in its original state here.

UPDATE: Yup, they corrected it — without any note. It never happened, do you hear me? Never happened.

In fact, you’re not even seeing this screenshot on your screen:

Screen Shot 2014-05-30 at 7.52.18 PM

What did we ever do before the Internet?

136 Responses to “L.A. Times Calls Jay Carney “Bespeckled””

  1. Heh. Layers of editors.

    Patterico (9c670f)

  2. well, after his performances the last few years, he is, at least metaphorically, bespeckled with some of the Bam-Bam BS he slung for his puppet master.

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  3. I didn’t know the press was supposed to take editorial direction from any administration. Learn something new every day..

    Glenn (647d76)

  4. Apparently they were stumped for any real accomplishments or memorable moments during his tenure. Even if they meant “bespectacled” what a bizarre choice of words that is to describe him as he leaves.

    elissa (0c58c5)

  5. What they wanted was “bespectacled”, I suppose. You could be both bespeckled and bespectacled, I suppose.

    htom (412a17)

  6. that’s completely not how you spell “pasty”

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  7. safety glasses would certainly help in keeping the #2 product of Bam-Bam’s regime out of your eyes, thus reducing the risk of infection…

    won’t do much about them drying out from all the hot air though…

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  8. The contrast between Jay Carney and Dana Perino (and or Tony Snow always) leaves me asking, that’s the best this administration could do?

    Dana (9a8f57)

  9. Heh. They corrected it without noting the mistake. Douchebags.

    Mr. B (826ee3)

  10. which Dana is that at #8?

    i can’t afford a program this summer… ;-)

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  11. Robert Gibbs was the eminence gris in this administration, in retrospect,

    narciso (3fec35)

  12. to be fair i don’t picture Romney hugs being appreciably less awkward

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  13. What ever happened to the manly handshake for government people to send other government people off into the sunset? I just think that would be much more appropriate, you know?

    elissa (0c58c5)

  14. Bespeckled is what you get when a flock of birds flies over you. I thought the paper was making a joke at Carnie’s expense.

    Never has a person uttered so many words with so little substance.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  15. Jay was the original model for Pajama Boy.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  16. If I caught a bespeckled trout that smelled as badly as Carney, I’d incinerate it rather than throw it back. Gotta do my part for water purification. Although I supposed my efforts would be offset by the length, intensity, and soap/shampoo consumption of my shower afterwards.

    I’ve heard that carnival workers are now picking fistfights with customers who call them “carneys” because they think they’re being compared to our now-ex-PrezPressSec.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  17. huggy fascists make me extremely uncomfortable so, yes, I do vote handshake

    and I haven’t the foggiest idea who this Josh character is

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  18. carnivals are fun but you have to watch out for hidden calories

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  19. narciso @17, the fish bespeckles from the head down.

    You’ve got to watch that.

    Steve57 (61329d)

  20. I’ll take that into consideration;

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/three-pictures-in-washington-monthly-that-make-jay-carney-look-ridiculous/

    this may have been the ‘jump the shark’ moment,

    narciso (3fec35)

  21. The LA Times mis-spelled lying f@cking liar.

    JD (e5a0fa)

  22. UPDATE: Yup, they corrected it — without any note. It never happened, do you hear me? Never happened.

    In fact, you’re not even seeing this screenshot on your screen:

    Screen Shot 2014-05-30 at 7.52.18 PM

    What did we ever do before the Internet?

    Patterico (9c670f)

  23. Speaking of getting mouthy, Mr. feets:

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/379216/state-civil-rights-panel-colorado-baker-must-bake-cakes-gay-weddings-andrew-johnson

    …Jack Phillips must bake cakes for same-sex wedding ceremonies, despite his conviction that doing so would violate his religious principles, according to a ruling by the state’s Civil Rights Commission. Phillips, whose Masterpiece Cakeshop became the center of controversy when he objected for religious reasons to baking a cake for a couple’s same-sex wedding in 2012, must now report quarterly on whether he is serving same-sex customers, among other conditions…

    Who exactly is getting bashed, again?

    Steve57 (61329d)

  24. ‘Don’t cry for me, Argentina’

    http://newsbusters.org/people-and-organizations/josh-earnest

    narciso (3fec35)

  25. wait there’s even more;

    http://www.mediaite.com/tag/josh-earnest/

    narciso (3fec35)

  26. people what have religious principles against baking cake are overthinking it I think

    take it down a notch Jack

    Jesus will still love you i promise

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  27. Thank goodness, I thought teh guy would never recline!

    Colonel Haiku (c6cd7c)

  28. Well, I always thought that Carney took too much blame, considering the material he was given and what he was asked to accomplish.
    Maybe he couldn’t take it anymore.

    So, does the cake baker have any possibility of appeal? Will the state of Colorado chain him behind the counter at his bakery, forcing him to keep baking and stay in the state to do it?

    If you don’t have freedom of conscience concerning a religious belief when there really is no burden on individuals or society (I’m sure there are other bakeries), then you really don’t have freedom of conscience at all (unless they still allow you to do what you want for some limited and specific time of the week, and call that freedom of religion).

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  29. 29. …Jesus will still love you i promise

    happyfeet (8ce051) — 5/30/2014 @ 8:14 pm

    Yes, that is what all tyrannical governments that seat themselves on the altar of God say. “I will tell you what your Jesus or your Buddha would have you do, dammit.”

    It’s not the government’s job to tell you what Jesus commands you or allows you to do. That should be up to the believer, in a free society that still has a first amendment. Unless, of course, you’re a closeted fan of fascism, Mr. feets.

    In a free society teh gays would just find a different cake shop.

    Steve57 (61329d)

  30. “What did we ever do before the Internet?”

    Patterico (9c670f) — 5/30/2014 @ 7:55 pm

    We lived, laughed and loved… not necessarily in that order.

    Colonel Haiku (325878)

  31. Hey feets,
    what would you think if the law was changed and you were forced to hold a sign that said “abortion is murder” in public on your lunch break. I mean, it’s just holding a sign.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  32. A bespeckled guy can only look like a puppy who dirtied the carpet for so many days.

    Colonel Haiku (325878)

  33. 31. Well, I always thought that Carney took too much blame, considering the material he was given and what he was asked to accomplish.
    Maybe he couldn’t take it anymore.

    MD in Philly (f9371b) — 5/30/2014 @ 8:25 pm

    Assuming no one put a gun to his head and made him take the job, like the Colorado Civil Rights Commission does to bakers, then I think he deserves all the blame he’s getting considering he knew what he had to work with and still he did it.

    Steve57 (61329d)

  34. Jesus loved the people of Jerusalem, too, feets; in fact He wept over them because of the judgment that was to come because of their rejection of Him.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  35. Sweet Jesus… when he’s not h8ing on teh Palin, he’s h8ing on teh Mitt.

    Colonel Haiku (325878)

  36. Well the Soviets, the Chinese, Cuban constitutions enshrine freedom of worship, which isn’t the same thing, by a long mile, Gibbs, Carney, Earnest, six of one, half a dozen of another,

    narciso (3fec35)

  37. Well, that’s true too, presumably it was his choice to take the job.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  38. i’m not in the sign-holding business

    that’s just not a very good analogy I don’t think Mr. Dr.

    I do, however, appreciate cake on several different levels

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  39. pikachu fits well into San Angeles, ‘be well and prosper citizen’

    narciso (3fec35)

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    ANSI N14.5 (f07101)

  41. 41. i’m not in the sign-holding business

    that’s just not a very good analogy I don’t think Mr. Dr.

    I do, however, appreciate cake on several different levels
    happyfeet (8ce051) — 5/30/2014 @ 8:32 pm

    The Tea Party Civil Rights Commission we’re forming up doesn’t much care whether you’re in the sign-holding business, or what you think of the analogy.

    We’ll be the judge of that. And you must admit, we’re only employing the same standard the Colorado Civil Rights Commission was using when they made a baker make a cake for a ceremony that not only violated his conscience, but was illegal in Colorado since they had to go out of state to get “married.”

    Steve57 (61329d)

  42. ‘I’ll never get over Macho Grande’

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/05/30/needed-at-the-va-now-an-accountable-ass-kicker.html

    this is why the 1.00 they sold the publication for was still inflated,

    narciso (3fec35)

  43. christians what think homosexuality is antithetical to christianity are defiling a great religion with their bigotry

    and yes yes yes they should be free to do so I think – just hopefully not under the umbrella of Lutheranism please

    but – this is key – their problems are not my problems

    I am not my bigoty brother’s keeper

    and if the state of colorado wants to bop them on the goozle then well too bad so sad

    me personally I have to pick my battles, and goober mchateybaker in Colorado

    he’s on his own

    buenos suerte with that principled refusal to bake the cakes for the homos

    you are a rock star goober don’t let nobody tell you different

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  44. Umm, Mr. feets, them there Christians are saying that redefining marriage to include homosexuals defiles their religion.

    Not that homosexuals do just by existing.

    We’re all part of God’s plan. Including teh gayz.

    But I can speak for teh Catholics. They’re not about to redefine a sacrament and tell God to STFU he got it wrong because you have a public opinion survey on your side.

    Steve57 (61329d)

  45. It is somehow appropriate we’re having this out on a Jay Carney thread, doncha think?

    Steve57 (61329d)

  46. because you have a public opinion survey on your side. Steve they don’t even have that in CA, as Prop 8 proved.

    Gazzer (554004)

  47. if gay people get married it has no impact on anyone’s religion Mr. 57

    it’s like if a pigeon farts in central park

    and nobody is telling churches they have to marry people they don’t want to

    the Catholics in particular have always been super picky about who they’ll marry

    and that’s AWESOME

    but i don’t get the whole I can’t bake a cake for you because Jesus thing

    it’s just weird

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  48. narciso, we shouldn’t speak of “hate crimes” when in fact we’re dealing with “fact crimes.”

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=659_1400516116

    The truth is no longer a defense.

    Steve57 (61329d)

  49. Mr. feets, if I have to bake you a gay marriage cake when my religion teaches me that marriage is only between a man and a woman, by definition your gay marriage is having an impact on my religion.

    Why do you have to deny reality, Mr. feets?

    Steve57 (61329d)

  50. Layers of fact checkers, are not exclusive to the Dog Trainer;

    http://babalublog.com/2014/05/30/about-the-miami-heralds-pro-castro-sources/

    he’s a fairly perceptive reporter, so it’s a bug

    narciso (3fec35)

  51. 51. …it’s just weird
    happyfeet (8ce051) — 5/30/2014 @ 8:54 pm

    It’s more than a little fascist when the government decides to tell you who to bake a cake for because doing otherwise is “just weird.”

    Are you a closet fascist, Mr. feets?

    Steve57 (61329d)

  52. “if gay people get married it has no impact on anyone’s religion Mr. 57″

    Mr. Feets – Not everybody agrees with you and forcing people to participate in the celebration of a gay marriaging against their religious preference is sort of fascisty gay mafia like, but the opinions of other people do not matter on these subjects.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  53. yeah that doesn’t make sense Mr. Steve

    if you don’t believe in gay marriage your beliefs aren’t compromised just cause you make a tasty cake for a couple of gay people

    it’s like here you go guys here’s a tasty cake for you to celebrate your marriage I don’t believe in

    that will be $1500 please

    I really hope you like it i worked really hard to make it like how we talked about

    ok thanks bye and good luck you guys

    how hard is that? Not hard at all. In fact it’s super easy and also kind of lucrative.

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  54. as you see, Carney is a symptom,

    http://newsbusters.org/people/jay-carney

    why would his successor do anything different,

    narciso (3fec35)

  55. #57 also applies to your comment Mr. daley (#56)

    and no I am not a closet fascist

    personally I think the government of colorado is silly and the homos that didn;t just find another bakery are silly but I think goober mchateybaker is the silliest of all, cause he’s the one that went into business to be a baker then got cold feet about it

    goober has ISSUES

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  56. Although Jay Carney is not “bespeckled,” he is indeed spectacled, because he wears glasses. Now, a lot of people before him also wore glasses, but they did not wear glasses in the Bush administration. Regardless, sometimes people in previous administrations did wear glasses with the intent of hiding the fact that Edward Snowden did know the NSA was spying on innocent people. So I guess we could say that Dick Cheney, who did wear glasses, is obviously the mastermind of the intention to hide the yellowcake while at the same time denying the fact that Valerie Plame was and is married to Vic Damone. If you go back to the record, sometimes Patty Sheehan also recognized that Hillary Clinton did not like Henry Cisneros, but it did not prevent Scooter Libby from revealing that Judith Miller was in fact a mole for Fox News intent on finally exposing that Glenn Greenwald’s cabana boy at one time cajoled a sick John Ashcroft to admit Laura Bush infiltrated Al-Qaeda under the direction of the Koch brothers so that the Tea Party would finally accept the illegitimate child of John Edwards as the King of the Sword Throne.

    Just filling in for Sammy since he hasn’t posted here. Can anyone prove me wrong? Wearing glasses? I think not.

    Ag80 (eb6ffa)

  57. the homos that *didn’t* just find another bakery I mean

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  58. Then why isn’t it “no big deal” for the couple to go to another baker. Plus you have no problem withe mandatory reporting to the authorities re how many gay cakes he has baked? On a quarterly basis.

    Gazzer (554004)

  59. Mr. Feets – Knowing how staunch you are I am surprised you support the fascisty tactics of which we are speaking.

    Team D in fact takes the position that all ur butt sechs r belong to us in harassing gay member of Team R just as it harasses black members of Team R:

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/05/after-weeks-of-harassment-from-far-left-groups-gay-republicans-office-vandalized-computers-destroyed-video/

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  60. So I see you are a closet fascist, Mr. feets. You get to decide, not me, what I must do in terms of participating in a ceremony that violates my religion.

    I’m curious, Mr. feets. If I’m force to cater a gay wedding against my will, can I be sued for saying things about that the celebrants and participants would find insulting? Is the fact that I said, “I told you to hire someone else” a defense against the fact I made them feel bad for enslaving me?

    Or do I lose my first amendment rights to free speech at the same time I lose my first amendment rights to the free exercise of religion?

    Steve57 (61329d)

  61. is this really the hill Team R wants to fight on?

    gee willikers

    you are not defined by the cakes you bake, people

    it’s what’s in your heart that counts

    for crying out loud am I the only one that watches the CW?

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  62. You want to require me to make a cake for you? Really? Just how stupid are you, anyway? I’ll subcontract it out to avoid complaints, and charge you double. Go away, I don’t want your business.

    htom (412a17)

  63. Again I find it eminently appropriate to be discussing this on a thread about Jay Carney, a man who would whore himself out and say anything.

    Steve57 (61329d)

  64. Yes, happy, you are the only one who watches the CW. And Gee Whillikers. And The Who, anymore.

    Ag80 (eb6ffa)

  65. 66. is this really the hill Team R wants to fight on?

    We wouldn’t even be on this hill if Team R hadn’t been in the business of retreating from one hill to the next my entire life.

    for crying out loud am I the only one that watches the CW?
    happyfeet (8ce051) — 5/30/2014 @ 9:17 pm

    Yes. What is the CW?

    But you still haven’t answered the question. Can I say what I believe when forced to cater a gay marriage no matter how offensive the celebrants and participants find my views, or is the the free speech portion of the first amendment as dead to you, Mr. feets, as the free exercise of religion portion of the same amendment?

    Steve57 (61329d)

  66. I would like to see a court order a Muslim baker or butcher cater a Jewish wedding in Dearborn, Michigan.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  67. a selection of commentary on the subject;

    https://twitter.com/iowahawkblog

    narciso (3fec35)

  68. I don’t know about the rest of you, but I consider the first amendment a pretty good hill to die on.

    Steve57 (61329d)

  69. “66. is this really the hill Team R wants to fight on?”

    Mr. Feets – You keep mixing the sides up. It is the hill the gay mafia wants Team R to fight on.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  70. yes you can say whatever you want Mr. 57 but remember what Alyssa Milano says

    it’s nice to be important but it’s more important to be nice

    and the lady walks the walk god love her

    why she doesn’t have a CW show I just don’t understand

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  71. ‘freedom’s just another word, for nothing left to lose’ that sounds familiar

    narciso (3fec35)

  72. I would like to see a court order a Muslim baker or butcher cater a Jewish wedding in Dearborn, Michigan.

    ok so here we’re on the same page

    we are moving slowly but surely to a New Consensus

    and it’s a good feeling

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  73. Home run, Patterico! Touch all the bases.

    AZ Bob (533fbc)

  74. Mr. feets @75, I’d more rather take a lesson from Robert Stethem, a Navy diver who the Hezbollah killed on a TWA flight from Greece back in 1985, than Elissa Milano. Because, if memory serves, he had the ID card and he didn’t deny who he was.

    You don’t always get to choose your hill.

    Steve57 (61329d)

  75. my back hurts

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  76. I’ll try to be gentler, Mr. feets.

    Steve57 (61329d)

  77. Brothahs Sistahs we don’t need this fascist cake thing.

    Colonel Haiku (1be348)

  78. Sometimes history obscures, rather than illuminates;

    http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2014/05/30/the-revenge-of-arithmetic/#more-36990

    narciso (3fec35)

  79. “ok so here we’re on the same page”

    Mr. Feets – Call my people when a court orders that. We’ll do lunch.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  80. only if it’s persian

    you know… with that fancy rice

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  81. Me, I don’t even make pancakes on Rachel Corrie’s birthday anymore and nobody can force me to.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  82. When someone like feets starts quoting the gospel according to elissa milano, you know they’re out of Schlitz.

    That’s a beyond-desperation Hail-Mary pass right there.

    Steve57 (61329d)

  83. Heh. Layers of editors.

    Compared to the editors of old, the editors today suck royally. I don’t recall ever seeing as many errors in grammar and word misspellings twenty-something odd years ago.

    Blacque Jacques Shellacque (d3cdd0)

  84. then got cold feet about it

    as long as they were happy cold feet…

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  85. you come into my business, and inquire about entering into a transaction with me for one of the services i provide for a fee.

    i do NOT have to enter into a contract with you. if i am forced into the contract, by anyone, it is (IANAL) my understanding that the contract in void right then and there, since both parties did not freely enter into it.

    i’d like to see the authority by which this panel is compelling the business owner to do this, because i can’t see it standing up to a court challenge on contact law, if not fundamental freedoms.

    and Jay Carney is a royal douchebag

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  86. “is”… “contract”…

    (an edit function would be a nice add, Admin Guy)

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  87. With my apologies to the poet: Jay Carney is an ass upon which everyone has sat, except a man.

    ropelight (8c93a2)

  88. “nice” is not a high virtue, it is a low virtue, it means compromising to get along.
    Love is a high virtue, courage is a high virtue, they want what is best for a friend, or even an enemy, not what will keep everybody happy.

    Aslan is not a tame lion, Jesus is not a “nice” Messiah.

    Re-make Jesus after your own likings if you want feets, but your likings do not change the objective reality of Creation.

    Do you think a “nice” oncologist should avoid telling a person their cancer has recurred?
    Do you think it is nice to avoid truths which have eternal consequences?
    It’s not a gay thing, it’s a “do I have the right to do whatever I want” thing, which applies to everybody.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  89. ==When someone like feets starts quoting the gospel according to elissa milano…==

    I’d appreciate it if you’d note the correct spelling of Alyssa Milano’s name, Mr. Steve57. To avoid any confusion here.

    elissa (ee6233)

  90. but I think goober mchateybaker is the silliest of all, cause he’s the one that went into business to be a baker then got cold feet about it

    Your comments remind me of the quote “methinks he doth protest too much.”

    There is a contention or theory that people who are overly, excessively opposed to homosexuality (eg, sneering “fag” or expressing similar hostility towards the GLBT at the drop of a hat) are perhaps trying to make up for their own gay impulses. But the opposite would have to be true too.

    Happyfeet, you’re a two-fer. You use “gay” pejoratively quite frequently and you also seem way too indignant about a store owner not wanting to cater to the whims of gay customers.

    Mark (99b8fd)

  91. gay gay gay gay gay
    homo homo homo ho
    get yours in teh End

    Colonel Haiku (d8bba3)

  92. Everybody make to bake the cake
    Have you seen it on the telly?
    About this fascist cake thang
    Evil men with views so smelly

    Colonel Haiku (fc1c1f)

  93. I like pie.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  94. So, let’s have another cup of coffee
    and let’s have another piece of pie

    Colonel Haiku (560fd2)

  95. Join the Bar Code Party and they will make special laws for you because everybody is a special snowflake.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  96. “There is a contention or theory that people who are overly, excessively opposed to homosexuality (eg, sneering “fag” or expressing similar hostility towards the GLBT at the drop of a hat) are perhaps trying to make up for their own gay impulses.”

    - Mark

    Is there an equivalent “contention or theory” about people who overly, excessively prone to half-baked psychosexual analysis in the comment sections of political blogs?

    Leviticus (1aca67)

  97. Cakist!

    Colonel Haiku (560fd2)

  98. Anti-cakite!

    felipe (098e97)

  99. Mine sounds nastier, col.

    felipe (098e97)

  100. You cakogynist, felipe!

    Colonel Haiku (28d426)

  101. LOL, that was good.

    felipe (098e97)

  102. There is nothing closeted about Mr. Feets fascism.

    Have Blue (e97630)

  103. felipe – your sounds like your parent’s sister baking delicious confections of flour and sugar and butter ! What’s not to like ?

    Alastor (2e7f9f)

  104. Is there an equivalent “contention or theory” about people who overly, excessively prone to half-baked psychosexual analysis in the comment sections of political blogs?

    Leviticus, forget about psychological analysis. You have to admit that most gay people are liberal or leftwing. Not all, but most. Correct?

    Mark (99b8fd)

  105. elissa @94, your objection is duly noted and my apologies.

    Fortunately, the philosophical musings of Alyssa Milano are not likely to be something that comes up a lot.

    Steve57 (61329d)

  106. Alastor (2e7f9f) — 5/31/2014 @ 11:04 am

    Lol, I am so dense, it took me a minute to get that!

    felipe (098e97)

  107. According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the definition of “bespeckled” is: “Mark[ed] or cover[ed] with a large number of small spots or patches of color.”

    I think it’s quite clear what the proper defense is:

    “He was spotted wearing glasses, of course…” :-D

    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!

    IGotBupkia,"Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses." (aacc3d)

  108. Heh. Layers of editors.

    Compared to the editors of old, the editors today suck royally. I don’t recall ever seeing as many errors in grammar and word misspellings twenty-something odd years ago.

    I knew the rot had set in too deep about 20 years ago, when HBO aired a major national advertisement for about 5 weeks with a grammatical error in it (wrong ‘Its’ — “Do you know its Saturday Night?” instead of “It’s”)

    This is a national TV ad. How many people had to see that prior to airing, not one of whom saw it, could have noticed, AND had the power to call attention to it? A Hundred? A Thousand?

    IGotBupkia,"Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses." (aacc3d)

  109. people what have religious principles against baking cake are overthinking it I think

    take it down a notch Jack

    Jesus will still love you i promise

    So now you’re his spokesman?

    Milhouse (b95258)

  110. well I’m supposed to have weekends off

    that was the deal

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  111. christians what think homosexuality is antithetical to christianity are defiling a great religion with their bigotry

    and yes yes yes they should be free to do so I think – just hopefully not under the umbrella of Lutheranism please

    Isn’t Christianity — including Lutheranism — kind of defined by what the Bible says? Does the Bible defile Christianity?

    Milhouse (b95258)

  112. if gay people get married it has no impact on anyone’s religion Mr. 57

    If people murder and rob and rape each other it has no impact on anyone’s religion either, but most religions call those things sins, and crimes against God and man. Religion is not confined to what has an “impact” on it. Religion actually gets to judge what other people do; that’s what it’s about. Because whatever you happen to believe God ordered, those orders bind everyone in the world, whether they know it or believe it or not.

    but i don’t get the whole I can’t bake a cake for you because Jesus thing

    it’s just weird

    It’s called not beling an accomplice to a crime. Just like not driving the getaway car for bank robbers, or not making them sandwiches to take along on their bank robbing.

    Milhouse (b95258)

  113. that’s just a very strange analogy

    there’s nothing criminal about gay people getting married and we wish them every happiness and our hopes for their future together are sincere and heartfelt

    and to seal the deal we will all have some tasty cake, a beautiful cake someone worked really hard to make

    and maybe a midori sour

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  114. if you don’t believe in gay marriage your beliefs aren’t compromised just cause you make a tasty cake for a couple of gay people

    it’s like here you go guys here’s a tasty cake for you to celebrate your marriage I don’t believe in

    There’s where you’ve made your mistake, feets. It’s not that these people merely believe same-sex marriage is a harmless pretense, a legal nullity. It’s that they believe it’s a sin, i.e. a crime against God, a deliberate defiance of His orders, spitting in His face, and that He hates it. It’s just like mugging little old ladies. And doing anything to facilitate makes one an accomplice. It’s like making a thermos of tasty hot cocoa for a mugger to take out on a cold night so he can mug those old ladies without freezing.

    Milhouse (b95258)

  115. personally I think the government of colorado is silly and the homos that didn;t just find another bakery are silly but I think goober mchateybaker is the silliest of all, cause he’s the one that went into business to be a baker then got cold feet about it

    A taxi driver who refuses to drive someone to a bank, wait for him while he robs it, and then drive away, hasn’t got cold feet. He never signed up to do that.

    Milhouse (b95258)

  116. that’s just zany

    making a cake is just making a cake

    nobody needs a baker’s blessing to get married

    straight people aren’t all like oh well first we have to find a baker to bless our matrimonial intentions, are they?

    No.

    the baker is just the person what makes the cake

    that’s his role in the affair

    it’s very arrogant and ridiculously self-important for the baker to think that his cake is anything other than a prop in a ceremony

    But why gay people would even want to give this igmo their money is the real headscratcher here.

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  117. i’d like to see the authority by which this panel is compelling the business owner to do this, because i can’t see it standing up to a court challenge on contact law, if not fundamental freedoms.

    See Heart of Atlanta. Which was wrongly decided. But unfortunately it is the current state of the law.

    Milhouse (b95258)

  118. that’s just a very strange analogy

    there’s nothing criminal about gay people getting married

    God said otherwise. And He gets to decide what is and isn’t criminal.

    Milhouse (b95258)

  119. that’s just zany

    making a cake is just making a cake

    nobody needs a baker’s blessing to get married

    straight people aren’t all like oh well first we have to find a baker to bless our matrimonial intentions, are they?

    No.

    the baker is just the person what makes the cake

    that’s his role in the affair

    Being an accomplice to a crime doesn’t require that the crime couldn’t have happened but for your help. Anything you do in furtherance of a criminal conspiracy can land you in jail. And God’s jails are a lot more unpleasant than the State’s.

    Milhouse (b95258)

  120. “making a cake is just making a cake

    nobody needs a baker’s blessing to get married”

    Then why is the baker legally compelled to bake the cake? Seems like a rapist saying “Look honey, I’m not forcing you to marry me”! But your gonna put out! Makes about as much sense. Which is to say, none.

    felipe (098e97)

  121. no that’s just wrong

    wedding cakes aren’t even in the bible they’re a completely secular invention

    they have NOTHING to do with the actual sacrament of marriage

    not even a little bit

    they’re main function is (unfortunately) to be pretty (as opposed to scrumptious)

    i love this trend btw – the naked wedding cake

    but i’ve only seem them online so far not in real life

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  122. the baker is legally compelled to bake the cake cause you not supposed to discriminate against gay people in colorado

    it’s one of the rules there

    I tend to believe the rule is unnecessary cause I don’t think gay people have a super-big appetite for buying cake from people who hate them.

    But I don’t really have a horse in this race.

    First they came for goober mchateybaker, and I was like oh well, deal with it, goober – sucks to be you – and then I thought about going to catch Maleficent but then I decided maybe I’d try Deadwood one more time. Btw on the netflix, the How I Live Now movie with Saroise Ronan is really nice and the end made me cry like a little girl.

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  123. Same-sex marriage isn’t a sacrament anyway; if anything it’s a mockery of a sacrament, like the black mass. But that isn’t the point. The point is that if engaging in such a purported marriage is wrong, then playing any role in facilitating it, even in a trivial way, is also wrong. It gives sanction to wrongdoing.

    Milhouse (b95258)

  124. the baker is legally compelled to bake the cake cause you not supposed to discriminate against gay people in colorado

    it’s one of the rules there

    Screw the rules, then. God’s rules are the supreme law of the Universe, and preempt any law that contradicts them.

    Milhouse (b95258)

  125. I just don’t see how Jesus would ever get like super-angry with you for making a cake. Lutheran Jesus for sure wouldn’t. We’re all sinners, you see.

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  126. If the fascist whorestate failamerikkan government can’t make organizations helping the poor and downtrodden sign a pledge that they oppose abortion and prostitution before they get U.S. sheeple tax money, http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/12pdf/12-10_21p3.pdf, then the gay-pimping Culorado limp wrists cannot make a baker write on a cake “Bruce and Lance Are Married”. It’s pretty obvious to me. The baker needs a more a kickass lawyer is what I’m thinking, and the fascist take-it-up-the-wazoo lackeys of the Culorado tourism industry need to go before a real judge and not render decisions out of their anal cavities in proceedings where they are both judge, prosecutor, and towel boy.

    nk (dbc370)

  127. I just don’t see how Jesus would ever get like super-angry with you for making a cake. Lutheran Jesus for sure wouldn’t. We’re all sinners, you see.

    Indeed we are. That doesn’t make it OK to commit one more sin. At any rate, not in any theology I’ve ever heard of. Especially if you believe Jesus died for your sins — in that case, every time you do something wrong you’re driving another knife into his heart, and I’m sure he’s not OK with that, even if he won’t get angry about it because he’s the super-macho suffer-in-silence type.

    Milhouse (b95258)

  128. According to the New York Times of saturday, Carney first mentioned the idea of quitting to President Obama in April.

    Obama called this “bittersweet>’

    He didn’t want to se ehim go.

    But it does sound like it was somewhat accelerated.

    Sammy Finkelman (8cd742)

  129. 60. Ag80 (eb6ffa) — 5/30/2014 @ 9:10 pm

    Now, a lot of people before him also wore glasses, but they did not wear glasses in the Bush administration. Regardless, sometimes people in previous administrations did wear glasses with the intent of hiding… </i.

    For awhile George Stephanapolous wore glasses when he was Press Secretary for Predsident Clinton.

    He claimed he needed them – that is, that it wasn't some kind of public relations strategy.

    But he hadn't worn them before he got that job in 1993, and he didn't wear them afterwards.

    Maureen Dowd's column, January 22, 1993

    http://www.nytimes.com/1993/01/22/us/settling-in-the-boomers-ball-will-razorback-royalty-root-out-the-rogues.html

    The Tipper Gore Lady Zorro Fashion Award: To George Stephanopoulos, who made his debut at the White House briefing yesterday wearing nerdy-looking semi-wire-rimmed glasses. Although the 31-year-old Mr. Stephanopoulos claimed the new look was due to the fact that he had lost the glasses in his apartment for nine months, some wondered whether the eye wear was a doomed effort to give his baby face some authority.

    I think very few people in the press corps had seen him more than none months before.

    Video many years later of George “Clark Kent” stephanopolous, running back to get apair of glasses:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_-j0U_1MxM

    I think somewhere George stephanopolous gave an explanation of wearing and then not wearing glasses

    Sammy Finkelman (8cd742)

  130. Baking cake is baking cake. A wedding cake is a different critter than a cake. What you pay for in a bespoke wedding cake is the cake (usually rather simple), and mostly the decorating (which is not simple even for simple looking cakes, and edible art for those festooned with drapery of sugar roses.) I do not make wedding cakes. I’ve been asked. Such a compliment, but no, I don’t think I can do that. (I have made cakes for a few bachelor dinners, and don’t think I will ever do that anymore, either.) The hardest part, though, of making a wedding cake is dealing with the Bride, The Mother, The Mother-In-Law, and a few of the males.

    There is the tasting. Bride & four others show up, want to have sample tasting of five different kinds of cake, with seven kinds of frosting in twelve colors. They decide to go elsewhere. Couple of days later, the Bride and Mother return, want to taste two kinds of cake (one of which you usually don’t make) with three different frosting, ivory color. They go away, it was very good but not exactly. They come back. (By now, you know they’re shopping at all four places in town that do wedding cakes.) If they buy lower layers from A and upper layers from B, will you assemble it in the church and let C decorate it? I’m sorry, no, our insurance doesn’t allow that. They go away.

    It can take a small shop a month to make the sugar flowers to put on a cake. Changes requested two days before The Date are ruinous to the bakery.

    There have been movies that showed part of this process, you could make a great romantic comedy of the woes of being The Wedding Cake Maker. To be fair, there are joys. Small joys. Huge woes.

    My sister sometimes has had a Wedding Cake Shoppe. It’s closed, again. Too many Bridezillas and Motherzillas.

    I am, frankly, surprized that anyone is willing to make a wedding cake.

    htom (412a17)

  131. What did we ever do before the Internet?

    Relied on the Final Edition of the newspaper.

    Sammy Finkelman (c3c6b4)


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