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5/23/2014

House Dem Clobbers Obama and Shinseki on House Floor

Filed under: General — JD @ 6:20 am

[guest post by JD]

This will leave a mark.

So far, we have seen Obama claim to be mad, and want to investigate what is already known. They have used the exact same political response they always use – they found out from media reports, they are angry, and they will investigate. Eventually, they will declare it to be a phony scandal, and then ultimately dismiss it as being old news.

—JD

44 Responses to “House Dem Clobbers Obama and Shinseki on House Floor”

  1. He is clearly a partisan racist.

    JD (9f0beb)

  2. is this a scandal or just typical american incompetence?

    it’s all getting very blurry

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  3. I think the number of dead people suggests it is a scandal.

    JD (9f0beb)

  4. Who knows? Maybe congress is beginning to realize that this administration is out of control. Maybe they will wake up and realize that they may still have power to do something about it. Maybe the old checks and balances, left by the ancients for just this occasion, will be rediscovered before it is too late – as one discovers the fire escape that is ignored until there is a fire.

    I’m not holding my breath.

    Amphipolis (d3e04f)

  5. Well, obviously the Democrat gentleman from Georgia’s 13th Congressional District is a shiftless Uncle Tom race traitor in loose shoes and suffering from overexposure to crack cocaine and fatty foods. Doesn’t he know there’s a scientific consensus that Obama is and always has been completely infallible from his slippery origins to his unexplained whereabouts during the attack on Benghazi (even if it was the anniversary of 9/11). Obama can do no wrong, not even when he gets that phone call at 3am, not even when he rolls over and pulls the covers up over his head. Even when he’s not right, he’s never wrong.

    Doesn’t that drunken peanut-gobbling David Scott’s parole officer know that Barack Obama must be shielded from even the slightest suggestion of incompetence or even the scintilla of a hint of malfeasance? Once these sort of completely unfounded and scurrilously racist allegations get out they suddenly take root and find a life of their own in spite of the best WH efforts to control the narrative. Some racist so-called news agency is sure to circumvent the PR filters and put drooling nutcase whackjobs like Scott on TV and sure enough it won’t be long before our fundraising efforts start to suffer. Quick, someone get Anita Dunn or Lannie Davis on the phone.

    ropelight (515de4)

  6. Rep. David Scott is not authentic.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  7. Bush! He got us in two wars we could not pay for. Homophobes! Racists!

    nk (dbc370)

  8. Comment by JD (9f0beb) — 5/23/2014 @ 7:19 am

    I think the number of dead people suggests it is a scandal.

    But the argument is, you can’t say anyone died because they didn’t get to see a doctor when they wanted to.

    And if you want to claim that, then you must say who died, and prove that they wouldn’t have died anyway.

    Sammy Finkelman (42d229)

  9. Good Allah, Sammy.

    JD (9f0beb)

  10. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/05/18/exclusive-v-a-scandal-hits-new-hospital.html

    There’s no proof yet that veterans died while waiting for treatment, like what allegedly happened in Phoenix. But the doctor says it’s quite possible that some veterans would still be alive if they hadn’t been pushed through a record-keeping trap door that buried their requests for medical care.

    Maybe they can prove this in some cases, or come close.

    Sammy Finkelman (42d229)

  11. Sammy, do you look to the East every morning to validate that the Sun will rise? When you see a duck, do you wait for it to waddle and quack before you concede it truly is a duck?

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  12. Weasel Words R Us

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  13. The reason these vets died is that 25 billion years ago hydrogen gas started to coalesce to form the solar system. Let’s put the blame where it really lies instead of leaping to conclusions. Bush! God! Big Bang!

    nk (dbc370)

  14. 11. Comment by Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 5/23/2014 @ 8:17 am

    Sammy, do you look to the East every morning to validate that the Sun will rise?

    It’s not me, but this is going to be the standard the Obama administration will use:

    Nobody died because of this, unless it can be proven by a preponderance of the evidence that he or she did.

    Sammy Finkelman (42d229)

  15. I give up. There’s nothing I can imagine up that’s too ridiculous for De Mock Rats to actually be doing. http://washingtonexaminer.com/nancy-pelosi-blames-george-w.-bush-for-veterans-affairs-scandal/article/2548784

    nk (dbc370)

  16. Sammy, the fact is that critically ill patients were not being treated, and that this was intentional. They didn’t care whether the veterans lived or died. As far as I’m concerned the burden is on the VA therefore to prove that those people would have died anyway, despite the VA’s malicious premeditated neglect.

    Amphipolis (d3e04f)

  17. We’ll, Sammy… hopefully, you will never be put on a secret waiting list as you await the invasive procedure or treatment that will save your life.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  18. VA doctors are totally insulated from malpractice claims and I can’t even blame Scalia for it. (Damn it!) It’s by legislation.

    nk (dbc370)

  19. Sammy, do you look to the East every morning to validate that the Sun will rise?

    Colonel – Do not ask Sammy questions that are over his head or call for yes or no answers.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  20. Sammy–I’m going to pile on. Your seemingly lackadaisical, indifferent, almost nonchalant response to this shocking VA scandal is quite surprising. Usually we can count on you to be empathetic to people’s situations–often almost to fault. But not here. Not about this. How about showing a little more concern for the veterans? On Memorial Day Weekend.

    elissa (1120d0)

  21. 15. nk– I’ve generally admired W’s restraint as ex-president when it comes to the way he’s handled being treated and consistently blamed by high ranking Dems for everything under the sun. But if he doesn’t make some effort to defend himself against Pelosi’s slander about this, then I think he’s a weenie.

    elissa (1120d0)

  22. I was talking to an Obamist and just happened to mention that Obama is an incompetent Marxist — thankfully, God knows how much damage he would be doing were he competent. I get back “Bush!” I started laughing. The Bolsheviks were defending the Revolution from the Czar until Hitler came along; the Castros are still battling Batista, the CIA, and United Fruit Company; so on and so forth. My point had just been proven.

    nk (dbc370)

  23. 16. Comment by Amphipolis (d3e04f) — 5/23/2014 @ 8:41 am

    Sammy, the fact is that critically ill patients were not being treated, and that this was intentional. They didn’t care whether the veterans lived or died. As far as I’m concerned the burden is on the VA therefore to prove that those people would have died anyway, despite the VA’s malicious premeditated neglect. I suspect, though, that the report Predident Obama commissioned will try to limit the number who may have died from neglect as much as possible.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  24. chutzpah, no we need a stronger word:

    http://therightscoop.com/watch-megyn-kelly-exposes-how-obama-admin-knew-all-along-that-va-schedules-were-being-gamed-and-did-nothing/

    and there hasn’t a Megyn link in a while, so you’re welcome,

    narciso (3fec35)

  25. http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/your-watchdog/2014/05/22/local-va-paid-m-wrongful-deaths/9473317/

    (wrongful deaths, are not of course, the same thing as deaths from failuire to schdule an appointment, but that’s an extremely dangerous things to do.)

    Wrongful Deaths at the VA

    In the decade after 9/11, the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs paid $200 million to nearly 1,000 families in wrongful death cases. Click on a VA facility to see details of wrongful death payments at that hospital or clinic. The data is presented as obtained by The Center for Investigative Reporting using the Freedom of Information Act….

    The Veterans Affairs Medical Center of Cincinnati settled 10 wrongful death claims between 2001-2012 for a total of $1.57 million, including several cases for missed diagnoses and “faulty care.” …

    The CIR records indicate that the two Cleveland VA hospitals paid out nearly $1.8 million total for 11 claims, while Dayton’s VA hospital paid out $86,000 for 13 claims during that span. Columbus’ VA hospital paid two claims for $100,000. Louisville paid out $375,000 for four claims and Lexington paid nearly $653,000 for nine claims. In Indiana, there were two settlements for $400,000 in Fort Wayne, while the VA in Indianapolis settled eight cases for $440,000.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  26. The SCOAMF has left Chicago. Good. I was afraid that he was going to do a photo-op at Brown or Hines and turn the whole Gary-Milwaukee corridor into a parking lot.

    nk (dbc370)

  27. Like Putin’s Bitch.

    nk (dbc370)

  28. Comment by nk (dbc370) — 5/23/2014 @ 8:44 am

    Yes, government employees.

    That’s why I have wondered aloud if allowing malpractice to continue to be a problem is part of the strategy. Make doctors harassed from every which way so they decide to give up and become government employees with government benefits.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  29. Oh, and I meant to say thanks for posting this. This guy is a breath of fresh air, for as long as he lasts before he is undermined somehow.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  30. Ah Putin. Hitler or Not??? The future King of England compared Putin to Hitler and is causing a little diplomatic ruffle with the Kremlin.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/22/us-britain-putin-prince-idUSBREA4L0K420140522

    elissa (fb6f94)

  31. Bonnie Prince Cuckold may be in trouble at home for it if Parliament wants to make an issue of it. The Royals are constitutionally limited to only reading statements written for them by the elected government on matters of state.

    nk (dbc370)

  32. Kind of like the same deal JEF has with his leash holders.

    nk (dbc370)

  33. 31. Hillary Clinton did the same thing. It must be something going around.

    They are talking about annexation of territory in Europe on the basis of sharing a language.

    That may be the last precedent, but there’s a lot of difference betwene these two, and the consequences to the people annexed.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  34. Chuck ‘removes all doubt’, the Prince Regent back in the Victorian era, wouldn’t make such a fundamental error, but we do have the equivalent of Lord Aberdeen at Defense,

    narciso (3fec35)

  35. 36. Well of course, narciso. Many more of the New York corridor media elites were slightly inconvenienced by the bridge lane closures than personally experienced cancelled VA appointments. Priorities. Besides, Gov. Christie is a Republican.

    elissa (fb6f94)

  36. Comment by elissa (fb6f94) — 5/23/2014 @ 2:16 pm

    Many more of the New York corridor media elites were slightly inconvenienced by the bridge lane closures than personally experienced cancelled VA appointments.

    I didn’t learn till much much later,
    and only because it was alluded to in some MTA bus route notifications, that the Brooklyn Manhattan VA hospital had been closed for about a year because of Superstorm Sandy.

    Here’s a notice:

    http://www.mta.info/news/2012/12/13/free-transfer-staten-island-veterans

    The change in fare box machines will allow a free transfer to/from any SI bus route to the S53 and another free transfer to the B70. This transfer change will only be temporary and will be lifted once the Manhattan VA Hospital reopens.

    This got very little notice in the news.

    Sammy Finkelman (42d229)

  37. It was actually closed for about 6 to 7 months.

    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/02/15/vets-battle-frustration-inconvenience-with-manhattan-va-hospital-still-closed/

    http://www.wnyc.org/story/293878-service-restored-after-sandy-manhattan-va-looks-ahead-future-floods/

    Many less intrepid veterans were not able to travel the distances to the other facilities—or declined to, preferring to wait until service in Manhattan was restored. Martina Parauda, the head of the local VA hospital network, said staff members called patients to let them know their options, but they were concerned about vulnerable veterans who might let their health deteriorate

    Other hospitals by the East River were also closed for an extended period, but not as long, except for some parts.

    I think the longest was the emergency room of NYU.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/25/nyregion/nyu-langone-reopens-emergency-room-that-was-closed-by-hurricane-sandy.html?_r=0

    I don’t think covered the VA Hospital.

    Sammy Finkelman (42d229)

  38. I think Shinseki’s chance to save face and just blow his sh!t away has passed.

    Everybody whoever made him coffee is now toast.

    gary gulrud (46ca75)

  39. Shinseki is a loser

    coffee is for closers

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  40. Google Translate says Shinseki means “new seat”. But Google is so gay, everything it does has a gay connotation.

    nk (dbc370)

  41. google should stop being so damn gay

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  42. then ultimately dismiss it as being old news.

    YEAH, that story is two years old

    “What difference does it make?”

    Smock Puppet, "Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses." (225d0d)


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