Patterico's Pontifications

4/23/2014

First-World Problems for Women

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:29 am

Mollie Hemingway (h/t Allahpundit) compares some of the first-world problems faced by women in America to some other problems women face around the world.

Among the first-world problems include gendered children’s toys. See McDonald’s Gave Me the “Girl’s Toy” With My Happy Meal. So I Went to the CEO:

In the fall of 2008, when I was 11 years old, I wrote to the CEO of McDonald’s and asked him to change the way his stores sold Happy Meals. I expressed my frustration that McDonald’s always asked if my family preferred a “girl toy” or a “boy toy” when we ordered a Happy Meal at the drive-through. My letter asked if it would be legal for McDonald’s “to ask at a job interview whether someone wanted a man’s job or a woman’s job?”

Amanda Marcotte reminds us that getting asked to prom = sexual harassment:

Who can forget the movement to ban the word “bossy”? That was, of course, covered beautifully by our own Dana here. (See? By using the term “our own Dana” I am perpetuating the notion that men own women and their ideas!)

So there are some of your first-world problems. Some of the not-so-first world problems pointed out by Hemingway?

A conservative Daily Show (if such a thing existed, and it should) would send a correspondent to one of these latter places, where folks are committing honor killings and kidnappings, and ask them about, say, the gendered Happy Meal toys. “Yes, I know, girls are getting kidnapped from schools. You already said that. But I’m trying to ask about these Happy Meal toys . . .”

Free tip, guys.

95 Responses to “First-World Problems for Women”

  1. Ding.

    Patterico (9c670f)

  2. Amanda Marcotte should be shunned by polite society.

    JD (44af78)

  3. That young gender-toy hating person has to be an absolute joy to be around.

    JD (44af78)

  4. nobody ever asks amanda if she wants to play the tickle game i bet

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  5. The now 17 year old McDonald’s toy girl will continue to make other people’s lives living hell for a long long time. Self righteous, self centered, arrogant, abrasive and obnoxious.

    Folks like that work eternally at changing the world to make it fit with their own conception of the way things are ‘sposed to be.

    I pity the fool who marries her–if such a fool can be found in any gender.

    Skeptical Voter (12e67d)

  6. “Our own Dana?” Excuse me, but I am owned lock, stock and barrel by my darling bride a free man.

    The married Dana (3e4784)

  7. I would be surprised if the McDonald’s toy girl got to where she is without the help of at least one of her parents.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  8. I shudder to think how many furry rodents had to die to make the cosmetics Armada Mancotte trowels on her face.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  9. Now at McDonald’s,they ask if you prefer the Barbie toy or the Hot Wheels (or the Brave-vs.-Transformers toy, or whatever the promos of the month are), with no suggestion that either one has a gender attached. 99% of the girls choose the pink toy, 99% of the boys choose the blue toy, and the sensitive 1% don’t have to belie their gender to get they toy they prefer.

    Since the problem was decisively solved years ago, let me ignore that fact to keep my grievance alive.

    Little Miss Spellcheck (75b7f0)

  10. Amanda Marcotte was a big John Edwards supporter, so she is forever disqualified from being taken seriously as a thinker. And as JD says, she’s such a nasty piece of work that she shouldn’t be taken seriously by anyone.

    JVW (9946b6)

  11. Sorry for the gratuitous gender stereotyping.

    Little Spellcheck (75b7f0)

  12. Whoops, I meant that as JD says, she should be shunned by polite society.

    JVW (9946b6)

  13. Sorry for the implicit sizeism.

    Spellcheck (75b7f0)

  14. Sorry for the implicit suggestion that there is a right or wrong way to spell something.

    [insert identifier here] (75b7f0)

  15. She Twitter bio says that she likes liberal journalism, snark, vinyl records and lives in Brooklyn with cats. Can feminist women be hipster douchebags?

    JVW (9946b6)

  16. ==I shudder to think how many furry rodents had to die to make the cosmetics Armada Mancotte trowels on her face. Comment by Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 4/23/2014 @ 8:55 am==

    Just to keep the discussion honest: That picture upthread is of Miss America who was invited to prom –it’s not one of Amanda Marcotte.

    elissa (9e7de1)

  17. The prosecution attempted to make Timothy McVeigh the leader of the bomb plot, instead of Terry Nichols, who obviously was. When he left for the Phillipines Terry Nichols left a letter with his ex-wife Lana PAdilla, to be given to Timothy McVeigh in the event he didn’t come back. (why would he not come back? Experimenting with explosives, of course) Lana Padilla, naturally, opened it up right away. It told McVeigh he was on his own (and I think the subtext was to go ahead)

    Sammy Finkelman (0e1021)

  18. I told my daughter about the boy who was suspended for asking Miss America to the prom. Her reaction, without prompting from me, was “What the? What’s so bad about a boy asking a girl to go the prom with him?” Of course, my daughter was not dropped on her head when she was born.

    nk (dbc370)

  19. It wasn’t just any girl. And she wasn’t in school with him or in any high school.

    Sammy Finkelman (0e1021)

  20. I am truly sorry, but I don’t owe coarse, stupid sows any special deference because God did not ‘bless’ them.

    Candy Crowley, this means you.

    gary gulrud (384f70)

  21. “Drink water from your own fountain; Clean water from your own well”, Sammy? There’s something to be said for that, but for a seventeen-year old I’d advise, “Keep your guard up but always talk to strange ladies”. Not that that would not be a seventeen-year old boy’s natural inclination, anyway.

    nk (dbc370)

  22. First they came for the womyns, and I said nothing…

    carlitos (e7c734)

  23. I do think that the mini trend of teens inviting celebs to their prom (a few have actually gone, but most don’t) has gotten a little out of hand and cliche over the past few years, but to suspend a kid over it??????

    Or to consider it harassment????? Good allah.

    elissa (9e7de1)

  24. BTW, is there a rule these days that Miss America judges are not allowed to look above the neck? Because the lady certainly does have a Miss America Grade figure but her face is … well, let’s just say the girl next door (to me) is prettier.

    nk (dbc370)

  25. Amanda didn’t know she was raped until the check bounced.

    CrustyB (69f730)

  26. Ouch. Guys, these comments are not helpful.

    carlitos (e7c734)

  27. I hope they don’t have a sock hop at my daughter’s school when One Direction comes to town in August, because I can see my daughter ambushing Niall Horan to invite him.

    BTW, I also told her about the shoveling while black story. That made a bigger impression on her. She didn’t like it — so much so that she told it to her mother.

    nk (dbc370)

  28. Greetings:

    May i assume then that “your own Dana’s” parents couldn’t decide if they wanted a “girls name” or a “boys name” ???

    11B40 (6abb5c)

  29. ==these comments are not helpful.==

    To whom??

    elissa (9e7de1)

  30. ==BTW, I also told her about the shoveling while black story. That made a bigger impression on her. She didn’t like it — so much so that she told it to her mother.==

    nk–if you think it wouldn’t be too personal and that she would not mind, why don’t you post some of what your daughter took from the SWB thread over on the SWB thread?

    elissa (9e7de1)

  31. “Our own Dana?” Excuse me, but I am owned lock, stock and barrel by my darling bride a free man.

    Comment by The married Dana (3e4784) — 4/23/2014 @ 8:41 am

    Heh.

    Dana is one of those names that can be used by either sex, but for whatever reason, I had it in my own head that Dana was a guy. Then with Patterico’s commentary above, I figured I got it wrong, misinterpreted the clues somewhere. Good thing that Dana cleared it up.

    Now, how is it that Patterico has guest posters that he doesn’t even know their gender? I recall him being a little put out that he wasn’t aware that Aaron Worthing / Walker was posting here under a pseudonym, so I am surprised he isn’t more on top of this kind of thing.

    Anon Y. Mous (8ec442)

  32. You are confuzzled, Anon Y. Mous.

    elissa (9e7de1)

  33. chicks what enter beauty pageants are like those chicks what enter beauty pageants

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  34. Well Ms. Marcotte was pretty quick to hit the ban button on me. No surprising.

    DejectedHead (a094a6)

  35. You are confuzzled, Anon Y. Mous.

    Please elaborate.

    Anon Y. Mous (8ec442)

  36. My favorite upper-class twit whine: “My Porsche is in the shop, and there are LEAVES in the pool!”

    Kevin M (b11279)

  37. For many years there have been two Danas who regularly post here. One is a boy and one is a girl. They are not hard to tell apart. And I’m very, very certain that Patterico is “on top of this”.

    elissa (9e7de1)

  38. If the boy’s toy in those Happy Meals was actually of interest to boys, most girls would be aghast at getting it. Lizards, guns …

    Kevin M (b11279)

  39. Ok, guilty confuzzled as charged. out of curiosity, how do you tell them apart?

    Anon Y. Mous (8ec442)

  40. I wonder if Ms. Marcotte thinks it is cute when older women sexual assault younger men.
    http://www.oregonlive.com/sherwood/index.ssf/2014/04/denise_keesee_gets_30_days_the.html

    The utter lack of outrage by the usual vocal feminists like Marcotte about these crimes of women rapists the fauxrage over some stupid comment by a teen boy speaks to her hypocrisy.

    Charles (0121f7)

  41. The Dana that smells nice just goes by Dana and is also the guest-blogger Dana. The concrete-contractor/Army daddy Dana most always uses an adjective phrase to modify his handle and is not a guest blogger.

    nk (dbc370)

  42. “Just to keep the discussion honest: That picture upthread is of Miss America who was invited to prom –it’s not one of Amanda Marcotte.”

    My comment still stands as it applies to AM. I instinctively knew that photo was of a far too beautiful woman to be sullied by the fever swamp leftism.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  43. ==these comments are not helpful.==

    To whom??

    ….

    BTW, is there a rule these days that Miss America judges are not allowed to look above the neck? Because the lady certainly does have a Miss America Grade figure but her face is … well, let’s just say the girl next door (to me) is prettier.

    Amanda didn’t know she was raped until the check bounced.

    Just my 2 cents. You may disagree.

    carlitos (e7c734)

  44. Sexists!

    This comment contains no GMOs. We do not test our comments on animals. Always recycle.

    Union of Serious Commenters for the Discussion of Serious Matters in a Serious Matter Seriously (dbc370)

  45. “We do not test our comments on animals.”

    Union of Serious Commenters for the Discussion of Serious Matters in a Serious Matter Seriously – Well, Gil relies on the behavior of animals to support his arguments, the rest of us are more evolved.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  46. The Union of Serious Commenters for the Discussion of Serious Matters in a Serious Matter Seriously wrote:

    We do not test our comments on animals.

    Uhhh, what do you call posting them here?

    The Dana who supports PETA (People Eating Tasty Animals) (3e4784)

  47. Just another c***

    Rodney King's Spirit (ca9e04)

  48. I guess it didn’t occur to the 17 year old to just ask for the other toy, if that’s what she wanted–although I assume that it didn’t matter as long as she had some liberal talking point to make.

    17 seems a little young to be so self righteous and dogmatic, but I guess they’re training liberals younger and younger these days.

    rochf (f3fbb0)

  49. Is America still a first-world country ?

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  50. Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 4/23/2014 @ 12:19

    If said commenter shows up, I’m blaming you.

    So, even if it is a little over the top, how did it become a story that some 17 yo invited a Miss America to the prom, and why did it become a story?
    I think many of the first ask-a-celebrity invites were often people who were seriously ill or some such, IIRC.

    Oh well, as the point is made, there are many more important things to be concerned about.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  51. One of the problems that first-world women have in America (if indeed, we’re still a first-world country) is that we have a President who wants to transform us into a third-world country.

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  52. Dear Barack,

    You obviously want to transform the nation, but the sentiment cuts both ways; after all, we want to transform you, too.

    Love,
    Signed,

    Elephant Stone

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  53. ==how did it become a story that some 17 yo invited a Miss America to the prom, and why did it become a story?==

    Because, MD, they suspended him from school for doing it. (He didn’t even have a toy gun.) And then, idiot Amanda Marcotte weighed in on Twitter by calling what he did “sexual harassment of older women”. You are most correct that it should never have become a story. But this is how/why it did.

    elissa (9e7de1)

  54. I feel like this is unfair to the “first world problem” meme. First world problems are real problems, though ones that we should be grateful we have the luxury of being annoyed by them. When the bodega seems to have every flavor of Snapple™ except the ones I like, that’s really annoying. When the closest legal parking spot I can find is over a mile from home, that’s a problem. When my net connection is flaky and my computer is running like molasses, it pisses me right off. In the greater scheme of things these are trivial concerns. When my father was starving in Samarkand under Stalin, he would have given anything to have my problems. But that doesn’t make them go away, or be less annoying. A sore arm beats cancer, but it’s still a sore arm.

    The “problems” you present here, though, aren’t first world problems, they’re made up problems. They’re not problems at all, for anybody. The outrage at them is manufactured. I suppose it’s a first world problem that some people are so bored they’re desperate for something to feel offended at, and can’t think of anything so they’re driven to invent something. But the problem isn’t with the world, it’s with them. They just need to let go of the chips on their shoulders and enjoy their problem-free lives — or grouse about whatever actual problems they may have, however trivial.

    Milhouse (50cb78)

  55. elissa – Ignorance, real or feigned, is the opiate of our leftist elites.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  56. My letter asked if it would be legal for McDonald’s “to ask at a job interview whether someone wanted a man’s job or a woman’s job?”

    I can’t see any reason it wouldn’t be legal. Pretty stupid, but if they wanted to do things that way what law would prevent it? So long as each applicant was given a choice, who would have standing to complain?

    Milhouse (50cb78)

  57. Marcotte, is Sandra Fluke without the law degree, very silly and vicious person, with made her a perfect match for John Edwards,

    narciso (3fec35)

  58. By using the term “our own Dana” I am perpetuating the notion that men own women and their ideas!)

    Surely “our” refers to the community here, which is composed of both men and women. Now if you’d said “my own Dana”…

    Of course this goes with the complaints about “men making laws for women”, as if there were no female legislators, and no women electing the legislators whether male or female.

    Milhouse (50cb78)

  59. I was going to ask you for more details elissa, but then decided to not be lazy and look for it myself*.
    So I see the youth did the deed during a live question and answer session at a school assembly where the Miss was visiting. The story I read said that the scheme was known to school officials who told him not to do it, so I guess the suspension is a little bit for disrupting the running of the school and a lot of “we’re not going to let you go against our instructions”.
    Still…

    * I am still using Google and Mozilla (on one computer). Are people happy with duckduckgo and Pale Moon?

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  60. It’s ridiculous, like the White House reacting to a Beiber deportation position, or the President mugging with Galifanakia, while Russian troops amass in Crimea,

    narciso (3fec35)

  61. I would have added that sending Biden to the Ukraine to show American’s commitment while Da Won goes golfing is another example of ridiculousness.

    But I’m coming around to Clint Eastwood’s position that Biden is really the brains of the outfit.

    Steve57 (013200)

  62. Actually Robert Gibbs was, in the kingdom of the blind,. . .

    narciso (3fec35)

  63. I’m using both Oracle and Pale Moon. I can’t decide which one I like better.

    Steve57 (013200)

  64. I guess it didn’t occur to the 17 year old to just ask for the other toy, if that’s what she wanted [...] 17 seems a little young to be so self righteous and dogmatic,

    1. She was 11 at the time, which is way too young to have come up with these ideas on her own.
    2. There was no need for her to ask for anything, since she was asked which toy she wanted. Her objection was solely to the way in which the toys were described — a way that was the most useful for 99.9% of customers, but was not PC.

    Milhouse (50cb78)

  65. Speaking of women in the first world, check this out:
    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2014/04/the-dems-are-in-trouble-in-oregon.php

    Reading through the comments are interesting; people saying she would do more good staying a practicing neurosurgeon (I bet there are more good neurosurgeons than good US Senators), one person offering disinformation misstating her positions on various topics,
    but the comments I liked were the ones that said that if she can rebuild a newborn’s spine, maybe she can rebuild some spines in DC…

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  66. One of the problems that first-world women have in America (if indeed, we’re still a first-world country) is that we have a President who wants to transform us into a third-world country.

    True, that is a first-world problem. People in Somalia or Mauritania would be delighted if their president wanted to transform their country into, say, Botswana.

    Milhouse (50cb78)

  67. Another harebrained contention…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  68. Our country is trapped between Barack and a hard place.
    I might consider moving to Botswana. I hear they speak Austrian there. Or something.
    But I wonder if I’ll be able to buy three hundred dollar sushi there.

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  69. ES, from what little I know about Botswana, if you can find sushi, it probably will cost you $300 to find some that will not give you food poisoning.
    But it is a great place to go to see wild African animals.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  70. “But it is a great place to go to see wild African animals.”

    MD in Philly – Niche marketing idea aimed at folks like Gil – Homosexual Animal Tours for Homosexuals.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  71. On page 5,892, Section 24,721, Paragraph 108,433 of the ACA, there’s a clause which stipulates that health insurance coverage must cover at least one ‘cultural exchange’ trip per year, as part of the ‘general wellness’ intention.

    So, conceivably a person could demand that a trip to Botswana be covered.
    And if one were to get food poisoning from the sushi, you’d be covered by the wonderful ACA policy.

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  72. More to the point, people in Somalia or Mauritania would be delighted if someone were to turn their country into the sh*thole that 0bama will leave for the next president. Therefore 0bama is a first-world problem.

    Milhouse (b95258)

  73. Milhouse, I got what you were saying; no matter how crappy the Left makes things here, we still have it better off than places like Somalia and Mauritania.
    I don’t think anyone here would disagree with that.

    Barack’s daddy is living proof of that premise.
    After all, he didn’t stay in Kenya to further his education.

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  74. all animals are fabulous but some animals are more fabulous than others

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  75. ‘the narrative’ seems to be more important, than the truth,

    http://www.durhamwonderland.blogspot.com/

    narciso (3fec35)

  76. Just to keep the discussion honest: That picture upthread is of Miss America who was invited to prom –it’s not one of Amanda Marcotte.

    When I first saw that photo, I presumed it was of Amanda and couldn’t help but wonder how the hell such a beautiful woman ended up being a fanatical NOW-crowd liberal. Yea, it’s not fair to judge a book by its cover, but I tend to have an impression that just about all activists of the left, particularly if they’re females, tend to be as ugly on the outside as they are on the inside.

    Mark (59e5be)

  77. we have a President who wants to transform us into a third-world country.

    The poster child for — the paradigm, the essence of — that is the wonderful city of Detroit and all its off-shoots or mini-me variations throughout America, from sea to shining sea.

    Mark (59e5be)

  78. Barack’s daddy is living proof of that premise.
    After all, he didn’t stay in Kenya to further his education.

    And Kenya in his day was a relatively decent place.

    Milhouse (b95258)

  79. First World problems for First World attorneys.

    County of Marin (Kali): You are here: Home > Departments > District Attorney > Volunteer Attorneys

    Rough job market in Kali, hey?

    Salary:

    Uncompensated
    Position Description:

    The Marin County District Attorney’s Office is seeking applications from attorneys who are willing to accept unpaid, temporary positions that offer a valuable opportunity to gain courtroom experience including trying misdemeanor jury trials. Successful applicants will serve as sworn Deputy District Attorneys with responsibilities that include handling daily criminal calendars, handling various motions, trying misdemeanor jury trials, and conducting legal research. These are FULL TIME positions that require a minimum commitment of six months and may continue for up to one year. Due to budgetary constraints, the Marin County District Attorney’s Office is unable to hire successful applicants at the conclusion of their uncompensated term. Successful applicants may not engage in the practice of law outside of the office during their uncompensated term.

    This just cracks me up for some reason.

    Somebody who has given up on trying to get a paying gig as an attorney and settled for barrista at Seattle’s Best Coffee is going to take this. Somebody is who is loaded down with undergrad and law school debt who is hoping that it will look good enough on a resume to finally, finally lead to something less degrading. I.e. something that will actually pay. Somebody who is desperate enough to go live and work for free (let’s face it; if you’re working full time for free you won’t be able to afford gas even if you have a car. You’ll have to bike to work.) in one of the most unaffordable areas of Kali. One of the most unaffordable states in the country.

    Maybe this person can convince mom & dad to support them for just one more year. Just one more, puhleaze! It’s already been at least seven. Why not make it eight?

    Steve57 (013200)

  80. the gypsy lady up there is pretty but after a whole day I get kinda tired of looking at her

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  81. all animals are fabulous but some animals are more fabulous than others

    ROOTS: The Buggering

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  82. 81. the gypsy lady up there is pretty but after a whole day I get kinda tired of looking at her

    Comment by happyfeet (8ce051) — 4/23/2014 @ 8:09 pm

    That’s why there are multiple positions, Mr. feets.

    Steve57 (013200)

  83. First World problems for First Worlders who dumped Firefox.

    Have you fumigated the Firefox?

    Since Pale Moon is built upon a Firefox base, it still reports itself to be Firefox to web sites by default. Fortunately, it is trivially simple to turn this off and cause the browser to correctly report itself as PaleMoon…

    You didn’t get Pale Moon just so web sites can attribute your hits to Firefox.

    Steve57 (013200)

  84. how about a Tattoo’d Lady instead?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uezV4zn8tvI

    (Rory Gallagher, for the barbarians out there %-)

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  85. Are people happy with duckduckgo and Pale Moon?

    Yes, it’s a seamless transition.

    You do need to do the “fumigation” mentioned by Steve57 @ #85 above. It takes only seconds, but a few websites began blocking Firefox after the firing, as a protest, this not only stops “hits” attributed to Firefox but also gets around those blocks.

    Estragon (ada867)

  86. Amanda Marcotte is a nasty piece of work. Remember she was bounced from the Edwards campaign in a couple of weeks because people started reading her old posts. She literally hates babies. And Christians. And Republicans. And most of all, she hates haters. She really really hates them.

    And she doesn’t look like Miss America, or even the picture McCain and others use when she says something stupid enough for them to mention. Get the recent photo at Wikipedia.

    Estragon (ada867)

  87. Thank you folks for the tech responses, especially about the fumigation of Pale Moon.

    Do you folks know of any reputable people/outfits that essentially do “IT management” of home computers from a distance online? Obviously, giving someone access to your computer would require total confidence. Maybe there is an alternative. Over the last 15 years I have episodically put in the time to become knowledgeable about various spyware and malware, etc., but it is not on my radar screen to keep on top of. I would rather find a reputable person to say, “Use this, better yet, let me install it for you and optimize the settings”.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  88. Comment by narciso (3fec35) — 4/23/2014 @ 8:20 pm

    Nice link. It seems the guy is taking it in stride, and not delusional to think there was much of a chance of success, and more understanding and forgiving of the school administration than they are of him.
    Who knows, maybe after being suspended, Miss America will have a change of heart and go on a date with him…
    He also apparently realizes there is a downside, what girl wants to be thought of as “second choice”, even if first choice was Miss America.

    Regarding IT, I know that so much of what we get for free on the internet is because of all of the income from ads, but some places are just getting ridiculous not only with static ads, but video in this corner, banner ads going across the screen down there, music coming from somewhere and you don’t know how it shut it off other than just muting your computer.
    I wonder if there is a market, and if it is possible, to provide “Pure Internet Content”. I know there is the ability to stop some Pop Up ads, etc., but still. I wonder how much I would be willing to pay to get internet that was ad free.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  89. More First World problems for women – ThinkProgress is enraged by horrifying gender gap in childhood allowances.

    ERMAGAWD!!!!! To the barricades!

    http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/04/23/3430025/gender-gap-allowance/

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  90. dale, On your suggestion I think I just visited ThinkProgress for the first time.
    From the article:
    And it’s not just that boys are more likely to be paid by their parents, but they also get more money. One study found that boys spent just 2.1 hours a week on chores and made $48 on average, while girls put in 2.7 hours to make $45.

    I want to know where they found youth getting that kind of allowance.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  91. Just to reiterate, I also use Opera. I like it, too, but I installed Ghostery web tracking browser and that can make it act sort of hinkey. For instance I can’t open my email unless I turn ghostery off.

    One of the things I like about Opera is that it’s a Norwegian company. They may be a bunch of Stalinists who fire people for thoughtcrime and wrongspeak just like the Mozilla crowd. But if they are they’re Norwegian Stalinists which means I’m not contributing to the success of American Stalinists. And that’s got to count for something.

    I mean Google Chrome? Is it really a step up to uninstall Firefox in protest and then use its partner in crime?

    Steve57 (013200)

  92. *web tracking browser blocker*

    Steve57 (013200)

  93. thank you to whoever said about Pale Moon

    that one does the trick

    (I tried like a half dozen others what sucked)

    happyfeet (8ce051)


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