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4/11/2014

Smartest, Most Eloquent President EVAH

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President Obama: “We are here today because we know we cannot be complacent. History travels not only forwards, but backwards and sideways.”
1:39 PM – 10 Apr 2014

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—JD

99 Responses to “Smartest, Most Eloquent President EVAH”

  1. This is too complex for the cisgendered heteronormative patriarchy community to comprehend.

    JD (a50352)

  2. Obviously, he is referring to rewriting history as as liberals are always doing. Kind of like giving the dems credit for getting the civil rights actt of 1964 passed after 84 southern dems failed to successfully filibuster it.

    Jim (59242f)

  3. He’s actually admitting he rewrites history, JD? That’s what it sounds like to me.

    Seriously, I think this is a riff on the “wrong side of history” meme that’s been cropping up a lot lately -coinsidentally I’m sure- in leftist talking points and opinion columns.

    elissa (477d9e)

  4. =Kind of like ….==

    Yes. and like telling school kids that Lincoln was a Democrat.

    elissa (477d9e)

  5. ” History travels not only forwards, but backwards and sideways.”

    Anyone who voted for an idiot who would make a statement like that should be exiled. He gets no R-S-P-E-C-T in any of the 57 states or the Asian state of Hawaii. He probably just needs a well earned vacation and a few games of golf.

    Our government has morphed into a conglomeration of crony capitalists, bundlers, race-baiters , lawyers and unions who have managed to come together and form the quintessential corrupt criminal organization. The whole damn government should be indicted under RICO.

    Hoagie (511e55)

  6. Eloquent to the extreme.

    Skeptical Voter (12e67d)

  7. All hail the multiverse!

    Dejectedhead (06f486)

  8. Comment by Hoagie (511e55)

    That best sums it up.

    Obama’s idea of moving forward is to convert the US into a bigger version of the city of Detroit, intertwined with a country like Venezuela, wrapped together with a society like Mexico or Brazil, all topped off with a nation similar to France (its recent elections notwithstanding), Greece or Spain.

    The road to hell — the one paved with good intentions — is chockablock with big potholes, so everyone needs to buckle up.

    Mark (14c5d3)

  9. After the midterms he’ll be using “yada, yada, yada”, as in “Reggie came over and yada, yada, yada, I’m really tired”.

    Amalgamated Cliff Divers, Local 157 (f7d5ba)

  10. I knew Sherman and Mr. Peabody. Sherman and Mr. Peabody were friends of mine. And you, Mr. Barack Hussein Obama, are no Sherman or Mr. Peabody.

    Elephant Stone (8a7f08)

  11. Elissa’s second comment at 3 has it right – it actually makes sense if you understand it, and some of what Dan Quayle said sounded worse.

    Except that the thought behind it is untrue.

    I’d also say that “wrong side of history” and “history moving forwards, backwards and sideways” are both based on the notion of progress with time.

    So if there is a reversal of some change in law or custom that Barack Obama favors, or some of his supporterds perceive as better, “history” is moving backwards.

    Sammy Finkelman (93900b)

  12. And always twirling, twirling, twirling toward freedom!

    Pagliaccio (ab843d)

  13. The arrow of time goes in one of his ears and comes out the other.

    like this .

    MikeK (cd7278)

  14. He left out up and down.

    Leonhard Euler (6d31ac)

  15. It rolls, it pitches, it yaws.

    melanerpes (6d31ac)

  16. Hey, Man, that was just so totally awesome.

    askeptic (8ecc78)

  17. Comment by MikeK (cd7278) — 4/11/2014 @ 8:00 am

    There’s nothing in there that would stop it from being a “through and through”.

    askeptic (8ecc78)

  18. Over under sideways down
    Backwards forwards square and round

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  19. All your history are belong to us!

    Strabo (65095f)

  20. “The whole damn government should be indicted under RICO.”

    I’m sorry. When I posted the above comment I forgot that Eric Holder is the U.S Attorney General, himself under contempt of Congress notwithstanding he would never prosecute “his people”. So the noose is complete, let’s all hang together.

    At lest the administration is diverse, they employ criminals from all walks of life, genders, colors and creeds.

    I believe when they begin questioning the new HHS director the first question should be: “Do you now or have you ever believed in Traditional Marriage?”. Or they could pull the Paula Dean and ask if she ever used the “N” word, even 30 years ago.

    Hoagie (511e55)

  21. Reminded of the Great Glass Elevator, of Dahl & Wonka fame.

    Though unlike the story, it appears things HAVE shattered into a million pieces.

    Another Anon (f43943)

  22. Schlong has his eye on the street, Wall, Market and Broad.

    Hose the streets down, for Heaven’s sake, pigeons don’t eat carrion.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  23. Backwards: rewriting history.
    Sideways: Brenden Eich.

    Kevin M (b11279)

  24. Actually, I do wish history would move sideways, and we all fell into the alternate universe where Romney won everything in 2008.

    Kevin M (b11279)

  25. 19. LOL, how apropos.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  26. Baghdad Barack. I love alliteration.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  27. “Teh Great Mince Forward”

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  28. 14. History is a line – it can go forward or backward or maybe stay still.

    If it stays still, it doesn’t matter in which of the other two dimensions it moves – it is still going sideways.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  29. A New York Post editorial today mentions that Janet reno wa sheld in contempt of Congress fir refusing to answer questions about why she didn’t appoint a special prosecutor in the matter of Clinton’s 1996 campaign.

    Bad news for Ted Cruz.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  30. And always twirling, twirling, twirling toward freedom!

    The politics of failure have failed. It is time to make them work again!

    Gabriel Hanna (529091)

  31. 24. Comment by Kevin M (b11279) — 4/11/2014 @ 9:24 am

    Actually, I do wish history would move sideways, and we all fell into the alternate universe where Romney won everything in 2008.

    Isn’t it enough for you that we’re in that alternate universe where the Berlin Wall fell in 1989, and the Soviet Union collapsed and Communism in Russia ended in 1991??

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  32. 29. Mixing pigments of yellow and blue makes green before Tuesday.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  33. 29. 32. Ted Cruz had praised Janet Reno’s appointments of special prosecutors (to contrast Eric Holder with her)

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  34. El-Presedente is gearing up for martial law.
    Educated citizens know what to do.

    mg (31009b)

  35. Get set for another long leg down.

    http://www.americaagainnow.com/great_depression_ii

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  36. 35. http://wwwwakeupamericans-spree.blogspot.com/2014/04/revolution-now-in-nevada-what-you-can.html#.U0coPvl3n4Z

    Resident evil(h/t red) is currently undergoing a rapid transition from the Progressive horde.

    Is now backing an undisclosed bunker and propane generator.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  37. Dow is slip sliding away, should end week under 16K. Dollar falling against most everything but the pound.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  38. Grasshopper, if you can take this pebble from my hand, you can choose your own path forward, backward or sideways.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  39. Actually Barack the Magnificent might find that history is like a Richard Gere Gerbil that just might crawl up his alimentary canal. That’s backwards, forwards, sideways and up the ol wazoo.

    Skeptical Voter (12e67d)

  40. Dow is slip sliding away, should end week under 16K. Dollar falling against most everything but the pound.

    Comment by gary gulrud (e2cef3) — 4/11/2014 @ 10:34 am

    Gary… looks like your daily predictions are finally coming to pass.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  41. Touche. The Fed did defy gravity for a long, long term. Unfortunately, statute of limitations in this case were not applicable.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  42. 3. He’s actually admitting he rewrites history, JD? That’s what it sounds like to me…

    Comment by elissa (477d9e) — 4/11/2014 @ 5:24 am

    This is not unusual for President Prom Queen.

    “You know, I actually believe my own bull***t.”

    He believes his own bull***t. He expects you to believe it to.

    Steve57 (e1960f)

  43. One thing’s for sure, Barack gets his history backwards. Or something.

    Elephant Stone (8a7f08)

  44. 42. Comment by gary gulrud (e2cef3) — 4/11/2014 @ 2:07 pm

    The Fed did defy gravity for a long, long term.

    No more so than a space satellite.

    If you limit the federal deficit to no more than about 3% of nominal GDP a year you can probably stay in orbit indefinitely, becuse nominal GDO grows by at least that much a year.

    Right now the Fed is worried that inflation is too low, 1% instead of 2%. Paul Krugman says 2% is too low – it ought to be 4%.

    Unfortunately, statute of limitations in this case were not applicable.

    Sammy Finkelman (9ec422)

  45. Baack Obama, or his tweeter, used the word “history” when he really meant something like “progress”

    Sammy Finkelman (9ec422)

  46. “Baack Obama, or his tweeter, used the word “history” when he really meant something like “progress””

    Sammy – Obama’s an idiot. Wasn’t the tweet an excerpt from a speech?

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  47. “If you limit the federal deficit to no more than about 3% of nominal GDP a year you can probably stay in orbit indefinitely, becuse nominal GDO grows by at least that much a year.”

    Sammy – Did you just make that up?

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  48. Wow! That is just what a “stoner” would say…

    What about up and down? Around in a circle?

    People voted for this clown, TWICE!!!

    WarEagle82 (b18ccf)

  49. You’re all lackeys of the cisexual*, heteronormative, white supremacist patriarchy.

    *TIL

    nk (dbc370)

  50. **Abbreviated “cis”.

    nk (dbc370)

  51. That line must have come from the same idiot who put together Secretary Sebelius’ speech today. Or the Smartest Prez Evah! was giving us the benefit of his vast store of knowledge, etc. Maybe both since he can do everybody’s job better that they can do them, as he’s told us many times.

    Bill M (c8f413)

  52. History travels not only forwards, but backwards and sideways.

    Maybe he’s been catching up on Dr. Who during national security briefings.

    malclave (1db6c5)

  53. In the 1954 case of Bolling v. Sharpe, the Supreme court held that the Fifth Amendment, ratified in 1791, incorporated the Equal Protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment ratified in 1866.

    Bolling v. Sharpe involved integration of the DC schools following Brown v. Board of Education. The problem was that Brown had been decided on Fourteenth Amendment grounds and the Fourteenth Amendment is only aapplicable to the states. What is a Warren Court to do, except move history back and sideways?

    Just throwing that out. I make no assertion that this was not ordinary SCOAMF stupidity but, instead, leftist progressive thinking. I mean, we already know the Civil War (which produced the Fourteenth Amendment) was fought over gay marriage, don’t we? Vaughn Walker said so.

    nk (dbc370)

  54. To #12 I say, yep!

    twirling towards freedom

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=386JprXXU90

    Brad (a50070)

  55. 2015 will be interesting, in a manner of speaking.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-11/guest-post-real-americans-are-ready-snap

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  56. The “real Americans” post gg linked above is worth reading. I worry that Tyler may be overly optimistic, tho, because I thought enough Americans had already awakened from their 2008 Obama stupor to realize that after we checked off “electing an historic president”, he should not be given a second term. Obviously I was wrong about that.

    Still, a lot, lot more has happened since 2008 to alarm some more people about lost freedoms. The outrageously expensive Obamacare disaster which negatively affected many more people who already had affordable insurance than “helped” those who had no insurance, the politically driven FBI malfeasance, and several more highly questionable court rulings. I agree with Tyler that the Cliven Bundy situation has the potential to be a tinderbox. The Ruby Ridge situation was hard for the average citizen to understand. The tragic conflagration in the Koresh debacle horrified anyone with a conscience, but public reaction was complicated by the fact that they were also initially misled and left unsure about how dangerous Koresh himself might have been.

    The affair playing out in Nevada is quite different, I think. Even people sitting in suburban communities and in high rises in our liberal cities can look at this situation and say, “WTF? The family’s herds grazed on that land since the 1800s (before BLM even existed) with no discernible harm to anything but the tortoises?” and you’re confiscating this family’s livelihood, and telling protesters they ‘should prepare for their own funerals’?”

    elissa (6fc331)

  57. Surprisingly this policy is not working out, leave it to Grey Lady to miss this;

    http://www.longwarjournal.org/threat-matrix/archives/2014/04/syrian_infowars_continued_more.php

    narciso (3fec35)

  58. You would be hard pressed elissa, to see anything related to the bundy matter in my local paper, or the McClatchy wire,

    instead we have this idiocy;

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2014/04/11/224195/senate-intelligence-committee.html?sp=/99/200/111/

    narciso (3fec35)

  59. Drudge has been on it for days. I’ve discovered that a lot of people of all political stripes start the day with Drudge.

    elissa (6fc331)

  60. Drudge has a headline that says the BLM has decided to retreat.

    I suspect the Feds realized just how many armed patriots showed up ready to defend the Bundy family, just in case the Feds attempted to facillitate “Ruby Ridge; The Sequel,” or “Waco, Part Two.”

    Elephant Stone (8a7f08)

  61. I also think publication of the Harry Reid/Chinese wind farm angle may have played a rawther large role in the “retreat”.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/04/bombshell-senator-harry-reid-is-behind-nevada-bundy-ranch-land-grab/

    elissa (6fc331)

  62. Wow, that Hairy Reed person is an awful human being, and an even worse Senator.

    Elephant Stone (8a7f08)

  63. Another victory for the Mormons versus federal troops, and nobody was killed this time.

    nk (dbc370)

  64. Here’s another interesting article about the BLM and the Bundys. This time the emphasis is WATER and water rights. Of course Hairy is front and center again.

    http://americanthinker.com/2014/04/bundy_ranch_the_federal_government_and_the_nevada_water_tipping_point.html

    elissa (6fc331)

  65. “We are here today because we know we cannot be complacent. History travels not only forwards, but backwards and sideways.”

    Years ago, P.J. O’Rourke penned an amusing piece on the rhetorical talents of presidential candidates which included a note of this gem from Gary Hart, “The world is defined by what we know. The status quo. But the tide of history flows against us.” (Per O’Rourke the line was ‘delivered, a propos of nothing in particular, in the middle of his address to NOW’). I think speechwriters do attempt to mimic their bosses verbal tics.

    Art Deco (ee8de5)

  66. History never repeats
    I tell myself, before I go to sleep

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz1aSjZ1mIQ

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  67. Barack is giving us backwards history, but Hillary will give us backwards herstory.
    Or whatever.

    Elephant Stone (8a7f08)

  68. Hairy Reid… pederast… buggerer of cattle.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  69. Why does Hairy Reed hate cattle ?

    Elephant Stone (8a7f08)

  70. Can Hillary duck cow pies like she can duck shoes?

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  71. she disgusts me and usually i like old women

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  72. Iran can develop a nuke and Russia can invade Ukraine, but if a cattle rancher’s livestock grazes on Nevada state land near where the federally-protected desert tortoise lives, then Barack is going to send in the military to stop that horrendous miscarriage of justice !

    Effing Barack.
    He makes Jimmah Cahtah look like Calvin Coolidge or Ronald Reagan.

    Elephant Stone (8a7f08)

  73. previous fascist regimes, historically, haven’t been anywhere near as silly as America’s one

    i can’t always take this buttfumbling american fascism seriously, especially when they send out a bunch of national park service whores, and people take video

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  74. Hear ya, Mr. feets.

    The ashaming thing isn’t just our politicians can be bought. It’s how cheaply.

    You’d have to spend five times the cash to bag one Indonesian for what you can get ten Democrats for.

    It’s scandalous.

    Steve57 (078ed2)

  75. Well it’s more like a lease with limited mileage;

    narciso (3fec35)

  76. “If you limit the federal deficit to no more than about 3% of nominal GDP a year you can probably stay in orbit indefinitely, because nominal GDO grows by at least that much a year.”

    Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 4/11/2014 @ 4:12 pm

    Sammy – Did you just make that up?

    No, I think I heard some figure like 3% before – maybe I picked the exact amount.

    Here we have it in the Economic Report of the President 2010:

    http://tinyurl.com/pqmqolc

    For example, if the deficit is 1% of GDP and nominal GDP is growing at 5 percent per year, the debt-to-GDP ratio will stabilize at 20 percent. Similarly, if the deficit-to-GDP ratio and the growth rate of nominal GDP are both 4 percent, the debt-to-GDP ratio will stablize at 100 percent.

    Paul Ryan understands this also. What worries Paul Ryan is that it is may not be stabilizing, or we may be getting too high for that.

    One little note: The deficit includesd money spent on interest. Now real growth in GDP should be at least around 3% – therefore we can maintain a 3% primary deficit indefinitely if interest rates are at the level of inflation.

    Except the problem is sometimes a crisis couild cause you to need more, and growth might also slow down, especially if population stops growing.

    Sammy Finkelman (9ec422)

  77. This Obama president person has a fetish for enforcing National Park and Bureau of Land Management rules and regulations to a “T,” yet when it comes to our national borders, uh, not so much.

    Elephant Stone (8a7f08)

  78. the former is about ‘establishing a narrative’ the latter is just verboten,

    narciso (3fec35)

  79. 79. Goldman Sachs has already cut its forecast for 2014 GDP twice to 1.6%.

    Seriously, I cannot divine any purpose to your commenting on financial matters.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  80. “For example, if the deficit is 1% of GDP and nominal GDP is growing at 5 percent per year, the debt-to-GDP ratio will stabilize at 20 percent. Similarly, if the deficit-to-GDP ratio and the growth rate of nominal GDP are both 4 percent, the debt-to-GDP ratio will stablize at 100 percent.”

    Clearly, Urkel does not know sh!t from shinola.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  81. C-SPAN is broadcasting the Freedom Summit in New Hampshire.

    Mike Lee, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Laura Ingraham, Newt Gingrich, and Donald Trump, et al, have given speeches.

    Elephant Stone (8a7f08)

  82. 84. I’d vote for Laura.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  83. “No, I think I heard some figure like 3% before – maybe I picked the exact amount.

    Here we have it in the Economic Report of the President 2010:”

    Sammy – Got it. It is not a real world example but a hypothetical which ignores where the U.S. actually stands, our future unfunded liabilities and projected interest costs. Why didn’t you say so?

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  84. 86. Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 4/12/2014 @ 9:15 pm

    It is not a real world example but a hypothetical which ignores where the U.S. actually stands, our future unfunded liabilities and projected interest costs. Why didn’t you say so?

    I said it (the details) was a hypothetical. Note the word “if”:

    If you limit the federal deficit to no more than about 3% of nominal GDP a year you can probably stay in orbit indefinitely, because nominal GDO grows by at least that much a year.”

    I would also say that the long term average shouldn’t be less than that. The big question is what interest rate the federal government will have to pay, but I don’t think this climbs above the growth rate in nominal GDP.

    http://useconomy.about.com/od/GDP-by-Year/a/US-GDP-History.htm

    GDP growth has been pretty low recently but nobody projected it to stay that way.

    In 2011 it was 1.8% but 3.8% nominal. The interest on the 10-year Treasury note hit a low of 1.44% on June 1, meaning there was almost 2 1/2% greater growth in GDP. Average interest rates on the federal debt were something like 6% of outlays or a little more than 2% of GDP (although at risk of rising sharply one day)

    Comes out the situation remains unchanged if the deficit is below about 1.5% of GDP or $50 billion or so. (The deficit however was well over a trillion Dollars)

    In Fiscal 2012 it was 30% of outlays (cf page 100 of IRS Form 2013 instructions) but if it went down to around 1.5% (and probably higher) it could stay that way indefinitely.

    A permanent primary deficit of around 1% of GDP at least can probably continue without having to worry about economic gravity.

    Sammy Finkelman (c33275)

  85. “I said it (the details) was a hypothetical. Note the word “if”:”

    Sammy – No sale. The first part of your example includes the word “if” regarding how low to keep the deficit, but the latter part regarding growth does not.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  86. I bet Barack is going to spend today huddling with his national security team and foreign policy aides in order to prepare for Putin’s next move vis a vis Ukraine.

    “Forget it, Jake, it’s Chinatown CBS is televising the final round of The Masters.”

    Elephant Stone (8a7f08)

  87. Ukraine needs failmerican interference like a fish needs a cusinart

    with which he could make some surprisingly tasty what-have-you to serve on crackers

    here is what the fish could do

    the fish could use the grater on the cusinart to chipper-chopper up half a stalk or so of celery – then put that in a colander to drain (toss it a lil bit to shake the water molecules lose)

    then the fish – cannibalistic lil bastard that he is – he could get two cans of kippers

    http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.crownprince.com%2Fcp-kipper-snacks.htm&h=0&w=0&tbnid=ATVR8S-inkDgJM&zoom=1&tbnh=225&tbnw=225&docid=ku6zLDuqZYZ-7M&tbm=isch&client=firefox-a&ei=z_lKU5L0LYWCyQGbx4EY&ved=0CAsQsCUoAw

    then the lil fish would take two forks and chipper chopper up the kippers

    then he throws that into a mixer-upper bowl with the celery, adds a tablespoon of mayo, garlic salt and oregano and parsley and maybe a lil dried basil to taste

    mix mix mix

    then you just spoon that onto crackers

    is very tasty and very healthful

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  88. mister happy, on the other hand, one could merely say that there’s something fishy about what’s going on in the white house.

    Elephant Stone (8a7f08)

  89. indeed there is

    it’s fishy filthy fascism up one side and down the other

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  90. Not that anyone should quote the CBO as an authority..

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/04/14/CBO-Issues-Dire-Debt-Warning-of-Fiscal-Crisis

    The point is that they calculate given a set of assumptions handed them by wanton slatterns in Congress, and even these say the debt to GDP ratio will double in 10.

    I’d double it again to start.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  91. The assumptions that they have to follow from Congress are primarily that the laws will stay the same way they are written now.

    They make their own assumptions about economic growth and interest rates etc.

    Estimates change all the time, and only some come from changes in law. Ones that come without changes do not have to be “paid for.”

    Rolling over the debt into more long term issues would probably make the projections look worse, although they might be better.

    Sammy Finkelman (c33275)

  92. Michsael Barone used a somewhat similar expression about history in this column (which I saw in the new York Post of Saturday, April 12, 2014)

    http://washingtonexaminer.com/if-you-think-the-sky-is-falling-check-out-the-prophecies-of-the-1970s/article/2547011

    Forty years is roughly the length of a working lifetime—and long enough for history to have taken some unexpected turns….History doesn’t proceed like a straight line on a graph; sometimes the lines bend.

    But here he was taling about extrapolations.

    There are common threads running through these mistaken projections. One is the extrapolation of recent trends far into the future.

    Sammy Finkelman (c33275)

  93. 98. I think that dates from before Obama was elected president, because the comments are all from “6 years ago”

    Now maybe it is rounding it up, and it the thread could have started 5 years and 2 months ago.

    Sammy Finkelman (c33275)


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