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4/8/2014

Breitbart California

Filed under: General — Dana @ 9:19 pm

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Yesterday saw the debut of the new Breitbart page, Breitbart California.

However, right out of the gate, Breitbart California stirred up a ruckus with the roll out. The site’s graphic street art depicting House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi’s face photoshopped onto a bikini-clad woman on hands and knees, with tongue hanging out and blood red lips, has possibly distracted readers from the written content, especially now as several prominent women have publicly voiced their objections to the depiction. Some would say the depiction deserves protesting. Others would say Breitbart California handed the opposition a golden opportunity to use to their advantage. War on women anyone?

From Democratic National Committee Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman-Shultz,

“To say the least, the Breitbart News ad is foul, offensive, and disrespectful to all women. It is a disgusting new low and would be reprehensible against any woman – regardless of party. It’s no wonder the Republicans are having problems appealing to women. If GOP leaders are serious about their rebrand, then both their elected and Party leadership should condemn this outrageous behavior, call on Breitbart News to immediately remove the ad, and not continue to use this website as a forum for their views.”

She also called on the site to remove the offensive image.

Jon Fleishman, the site’s California politics editor, wasn’t having it,

“I think the likelihood of that is zero. It’s light-hearted satire.”

Like beauty, satire may be in the eye of the beholder.

He also gave a glimpse into the mission of the Breitbart California site,

“The launch of Breitbart California represents some much-needed reinforcements in the ongoing battle against the institutional left in California.

Popular blogger Ann Althouse posted today that she agrees with Ana Marie Cox’s tweet,

“The people at Breitbart appear to have gone insane.”

And the Washington Post reports that Nancy Pelosi had this to say,

“So tasteless, that… I mean, is it even worthy of a question. It’s so undignified.”

Breitbart California pointed out that this satirizing of political figures is nothing new. And, if anything, recent history has proven that it only matters when those being ‘satirized’ are of a certain political persuasion:

-When making an appearance on Jimmy Fallon’s Late Night, the house band introduced Michelle Bachmann by playing the song “Lyin’- Ass Bitch“. Breitbart California notes that there was no cry of protest from either Wasserman Schultz or Pelosi.

-And when Bill Maher referred to Sarah Palin as a “dumb twat”, there was, again, no outcry from either Wasserman Schultz or Pelosi.

They cite several more crude examples of conservative women being publicly degraded – with no outcry with from either Wasserman Schultz or Pelosi.

While I understand the point they are attempting to make, one wonders, if Breitbart California’s goal is to lend support and give voice to Californians fighting the raging battle against the institutional left, is justifying their decision with a cocky, Look, you never made a stink when it was our side being degraded, so it’s okay if we do it to you now, the best way to go? And, does resisting the urge to wrestle in the mud and instead choosing to maintain a high-bar standard, give more power and standing to those on this side of the battle?

Residents of the state fighting this battle certainly need strong voices, and Breitbart California will no doubt be an influential one. Hopefully, in their quest, Breitbart California won’t turn away any readers with this debut decision.

Update from Politico: House Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy has pulled his column from Breitbart News after the site launched a California version with a lewd photoshop image of House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi.

A McCarthy spokesperson told ABC News the images were “inappropriate,” while another told the Los Angeles Times that the office “didn’t condone them.”

“We thought it was the right thing to do to ask for the column to be removed,” said Spokesperson Matt Sparks, according to the Los Angeles Times.

–Dana

106 Responses to “Breitbart California”

  1. I have not read any comments yet.
    I am not a breibart.com fan anymore.
    It is run by two former leftist is what I am hearing?

    Lisa (26ec63)

  2. Dana–interesting post. I’m going to have to think on this overnight. In the meantime if someone has copies of some of the vicious and lurid photoshops the left did of Sarah Palin and Condi Rice it would be quite interesting to juxtapose them alongside Nancy on her knees.

    elissa (b364f8)

  3. Patterico has had some complaints about the (3?) people running Breitbart.com now for some time.

    http://patterico.com/2013/07/25/breitbart-com-trumpets-story-based-on-2011-weiner-sexting-as-if-it-happened-in-2013-whisks-away-post-with-no-correction/

    Patterico:

    I made a mistake, for two minutes, relying (even indirectly) on Breitbart.com without double-checking the story myself. I’ll do my best to make sure it does not happen again.

    Sammy Finkelman (ebf45c)

  4. I believe in matching your opponents tactics, but it’s gone too far. Rank and file Democrats are fine with politicians lying. And in a two party Democracy, that means we’re all okay with it, implicitly. If we can’t demand honesty from politicians, what’s left?

    East Bay Jay (a5dac7)

  5. i really heart how that graphic makes Nancy Pelosi look exactly like the wanton and cheap piggy piggy socialist whoreslut she is, and yet it also highlights how essentially californian she is at the same time

    my hat’s off to the breitbart artist

    you have a gift my friend

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  6. what’s also brilliant is how you can’t see the guy’s face

    it succinctly communicates that Pelosi doesn’t even *care* who she screws, and she herself remains a tantalizing enigma:

    you have to screw it to find out what it’s like to be in it

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  7. Hm, seems what’s good for the gander is also good for the goose. Look at the “light hearted satirical” depictions of Bush. He and we are supposed to swallow it; but, Pelosi should never be satirized. Only they are entitled to protest “hate” er “satire”. Scroom.

    {^_^}

    JDow (c4e4c5)

  8. I hope Breitbart keeps it up, as it’s about time someone makes fun of the sick commies.
    Hell they should go off on the n.e.republicans.

    mg (31009b)

  9. First of all, ‘the horror, the horror’ second they have some nerve, after what they did with the Huntress, we can include what their affiliates at Simon and Schuster, did, what HBO did etc.

    narciso (3fec35)

  10. What are the women upset about? She got her start being Miss Lube Job of 1956 or something like that. SHe was a pinup calendar girl for heavens sake. They need to get over it.

    sdharms (f76bf1)

  11. 5.“Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.”
    6.“A good tactic is one your people enjoy.”

    The Breitbart graphic works for me. If anything, it makes San Fran Hag Nan look too good.

    nk (dbc370)

  12. Islam in Somalia and Islam in Montenegro are two very different things. Or Islam in Pakistan and Islam in Istanbul even. Hirsi Ali wants to blame Islam, in it worst aspects, for her Stone Age birthplace — I blame Stone Age places like her birthplace for the worst aspects of Islam.

    nk (dbc370)

  13. she grew up in a Salafi household, that much is true, the treatment she received in Holland and subsequently is the point.

    narciso (3fec35)

  14. Holland is … not very nice. Its “tolerance” of extreme Islamism pales next to its acceptance of the Groningen Protocol, for one thing.

    nk (dbc370)

  15. But I’m glad you brought up Islam, in a Breitbart discussion. Islam split, early on, into the Sunnis and Shiites. Breitbart also seems to have split into orthodox (Sunni) Breitbart and heretical (Shiite) Breitbart according to some of Andrew’s admirers. ;)

    nk (dbc370)

  16. The Left has gotten away with whining about this kind of thing, while doing it to others, for entirely too long. This is what political debate looks like. Don’t let anybody tell you otherwise. Don’t believe me? Check out some political cartoons of the 18th and 19th Centuries. “Holding ourselves to a higher standard” doesn’t work; it just lets our opponents come and cut us off at the knees.

    Somebody needs to tell Pelosi that if she can’t deal with criticism of her habits, ancestry, morals, ethics, and ultimate destination, she’s too delicate to be in politics.

    C. S. P. Schofield (e8b801)

  17. She’s a Borgia, I mean an Alessandri, of course Althouse would made make common cause with Wonkette, which is Jabba’s palace compared to Gawker,

    narciso (95a56c)

  18. That is actually a bikini-clad Miley Cyrus, which I think has something to do with the joke. Not that it’s a very funny one.

    If it’s wrong to do it to Palin, it’s wrong to do it to Pelosi. That a couple of commenters seem to think otherwise is depressing.

    Demosthenes (cb38dd)

  19. It’s wrong to engage in politics — to desire power over the lives, freedoms, and property of others. Desire leads to striving, striving leads to frustration, frustration leads to unhappiness. Bad karma, man. The world is an illusion. Forsake the material and seek the Nameless within to become one with the Being which is not Being.

    nk (dbc370)

  20. If it’s wrong to do it to Palin, it’s wrong to do it to Pelosi. That a couple of commenters seem to think otherwise is depressing.

    That’s the problem. That ship has already sailed. If they did it to Palin, then it can and will be done to one’s political adversary. You may not like it, but that’s the world we live in. Unless you’re an astronaut, you’re pretty much stuck on this planet and the individuals that inhabit it.

    Amalgamated Cliff Divers, Local 157 (f7d5ba)

  21. While I don’t care for the Photoshop, this is a great opportunity for journalists to ask politicians their opinion of sexist imagery versus party affiliation. Most politicians are not all that smart, and pretty soon they will say the truth: it’s okay to be sexist to the Right.

    And we need to get them on record. They need to be shown the photos and asked to respond to them. Over and over.

    Grist for the Culture War coming up in the next two elections.

    Simon Jester (a72e1e)

  22. Breitbart wanted buzz for their launch and they got it. Pelosi represents California and she’s an easy target. The insulting depiction is the visual equivalent of a school yard taunt, and not even close to what she deserves. Mission Accomplished.

    ropelight (73e7b0)

  23. 21. With the full-frontal assault on Amerikkka by her ‘government’ on every front–moral, ethical, financial and physical–this seeming obsession with a preciosity contra sexual psychic violence is just plain weird.

    Are we going to fight or just roll over and bare our neck?

    Moral equivalence of asymmetric motivations makes me sick.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  24. the fact that the usual suspects are enraged is proof positive that the art had its intended effect.

    the left has no problem with this sort of thing when it’s done to conservatives, male or female, yet howls with outrage when given what they give.

    if you’re taking flak, you’re over the target.

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  25. Andrew wouldn’t have done it. Breitbart never had to do anything except turn on the camera/recorder to show how wrong and foolish pols like Pelosi and Reid really are.

    crazy (d60cb0)

  26. War on women?
    “You ought put some ice on that.” — Bill Clinton to Juanita Broaddrick
    “Presidents need love too.” — Bill Clinton to Kathleen Wiley
    “There’s a vast right-wing conspiracy.” — Hillary Clinton in reference to the foregoing
    “One awkward moment for Sarah Palin at the Yankee game, during the seventh inning, her daughter was knocked-up by Alex Rodriguez.” — David Letterman
    “I can see Russia from my front porch.” — Tina Fey, portraying Sarah Palin
    “You can see Tina Fey’s butt from the Moon.” — nk portraying Neill Armstrong

    nk (dbc370)

  27. breitbart is now burning in hell with reagan and nixon.

    republicans are evil (64624c)

  28. hmmm

    not sure

    but john f kennedy for sure is probably burning in hell for reals cause he was SUCH a slut, even by trashy kennedy standards

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  29. but john f kennedy for sure is probably burning in hell for reals cause he was SUCH a slut, even by trashy kennedy standards

    And JFK was a piker in the spoiled-rich-kid-with-ill-manners department when compared to hit fat, drunken, rapey little brother Ted.

    JVW (9946b6)

  30. that’s very true I can’t argue with that at all

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  31. The third generation of Kennedys have taken it to a whole new level, though; what with their raping girls on the beach, murdering them with golf clubs, having sex with the 15-year-old babysitter, driving your wife to suicide — not to mention the general drugging, whoring, and sleazy profiteering on the family name. A classy lot, that bunch. Can’t wait to see what the fourth generation has in store for us.

    JVW (9946b6)

  32. channeling my inner Dante, i like to imagine Ted Kennedy, abandoned and alone, slowly drowning in the dark cold waters of a submerged car, over and over and over for all eternity.

    8-)

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  33. R.I.P. The Ultimate Warrior

    Icy (14327b)

  34. 29. I wonder whether the Proles ever consider that Heaven mainly amounts to singing hymns and worshipping forever with their aborted children.

    I can’t imagine many of them will hang for long.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  35. “Can’t wait to see what the fourth generation has in store for us.”

    JVW – Well, they do have the Kennedy Wing of the Hazelden Center in Minnesota to fall back on.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  36. Not defending the Breitbart shoops. However, keep in mind that outrageous outrage is a game of Calvinball where the media allows only the Left to make up rules. There is nothing that the Right can do to avoid outraging the Left. The existence of the Right as a viable political force is the root of the outrage.

    Gabriel Hanna (704ded)

  37. In one of the mags at the hair salon I saw a picture of John Bouvier Kennedy (Jack) Schlossberg and his rippling muscles strolling along a beach. And he reportedly gave a powerful speech at the Presidential Medal of Freedom ceremony that marked the 50th anniversary of his grandfather’s death. So, six pack and speeches. He’s definitely being groomed for something. I think he’s around 21.

    elissa (b364f8)

  38. He’s definitely being groomed for something.

    i wonder which branch of the family business he’ll go into?

    smuggler? rapist? murderer? junkie?

    he has so many choices…

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  39. Here’s my guess as to the Schlossberg kid’s career path: he finishes up at Yale then matriculates to Harvard Law, or Columbia or NYU Law if he wants to be back in Manhattan. He lives in a nice luxury apartment that his daddy buys for him, and he dates a pretty blond with whom he constantly shows up in the society pages and gossip columns. After law school he either goes and works for a left-wing (but, you know, not too far left-wing) nonprofit for a few years, or he goes and works in the district attorney’s office somewhere specializing in easy plea bargains that don’t tax his limited intellect and attention span.

    At 25 he comes into the family inheritance from both the Kennedy and Schlossberg sides (the Schlossberg side is way bigger, by the way). He dabbles in the arts and in trendy philanthropy, maintains residences in a variety places from which he could launch a political career (Massachusetts, New York, Connecticut), and then once everyone is satisfied that he isn’t a complete junkie or axe murderer he announces that he is running for the entry-level office formerly held by his grandad/great uncle/cousin. Like his mom, he’ll probably reveal himself to be a general airhead, but he will have done enough groundwork to ride his family name to prominence in liberal quarters.

    JVW (9946b6)

  40. “So, six pack and speeches.”

    elissa – Big deal. I got a twelve pack and I can do speeches too.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  41. Might be closer to a case than a twelve pack.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  42. == Big deal. I got a twelve pack and I can do speeches too.
    Might be closer to a case than a twelve pack.
    Comment by daleyrocks ==

    If you talk nice to JVW he’d probably be willing to lay out a career path for you, too, daley.

    elissa (b364f8)

  43. R.I.P. The Ultimate Warrior

    Comment by Icy (14327b) — 4/9/2014 @ 1:13 pm

    Nate Thurmond died? Dang it!!!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  44. twerk it Nanski!
    just speaking truth to old sow
    demented harri………………….. dan

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  45. Colonel Haiku – for a moment, I thought that Harry Potter would be distraught at losing his owl – and then I remembered that that was Hedwig – and it’s Hellwig that just died …

    Alastor (e7cb73)

  46. daleyrocks – for a while now, I have observed that my former six pack is now contained within a half-keg …

    Alastor (e7cb73)

  47. Speedo season is just around the corner!

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  48. The Obama person is downnn thar in Texas, eatin’ bar-be-que, and talkin’ ’bout bein’ ‘Murican and how much he loves the troops.
    Or something.

    Ok, so he’s actually going to a fundraiser.

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  49. “If you talk nice to JVW he’d probably be willing to lay out a career path for you, too, daley.”

    elissa – I very much appreciate the thought. I think I’m all set for a run as a dancer at the Wrinkle Wroom. I been working on my twerking. I figure I can make some of them blue haired ladies lose their teeth with my moves. Mebbe their lunch too.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  50. daleyrocks, just be sure to catch every single Tom Jones video you can find on YouTube, and you’ll know exactly how to appeal to the blue hairs. You do have a snazzy gold medallion on a huge chain, don’t you?

    JVW (9946b6)

  51. To be fair, narciso, Ayaan Hirsi Ali is supposedly still invited to speak at Brandeis at some point in the future, they just decided not to have her at the commencement ceremony and present her with an honorary degree. Ahmadinejad spoke at Columbia, but it was not commencement and he was given an honorary degree.

    By the way, I the practice of awarding honorary degrees is a stupid one, and I felt that way even before the whole Obama/Notre Dame kerfuffle a few years back. I am pleased that my alma mater does not engage in that tawdry practice.

    JVW (9946b6)

  52. Another suggestion: I’m also thinking that surprise appearances/performances at Schakowsky campaign events would be fun, -since you’re in the neighborhood.

    elissa (b364f8)

  53. *Ahmadinejad was NOT given an honorary degree from Columbia the above should read.

    JVW (9946b6)

  54. I guess they would have no problem giving one to Madonna or Sandra Fluke,

    narciso (3fec35)

  55. Didn’t some prominent national political figure say something about “punch(ing) back twice as hard”?

    Zonk! You’re it.

    askeptic (8ecc78)

  56. Might be closer to a case than a twelve pack.

    i have a party ball, appropriately enough…

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  57. I guess they would have no problem giving one to Madonna or Sandra Fluke.

    That’s part of what I hate about honorary degrees: they go to vapid Hollywood types or last year’s most notorious left-wing activist, rather than people who may have accomplished something other than making a pile of dough or getting some crummy legislation passed. I hope when I become rich and famous I have the good sense to decline all of the honors that are bound to be offered to me by academia in return for 20 minutes of my wisdom delivered to their graduates.

    JVW (9946b6)

  58. JVW – I have a bright red furry pimp top hat too.

    elissa – Jan does not publicize her appearances that I have been able to find, otherwise I would have been there long ago.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  59. 45.R.I.P. The Ultimate Warrior
    Comment by Icy (14327b) — 4/9/2014 @ 1:13 pm

    Nate Thurmond died? Dang it!!!
    Comment by Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 4/9/2014 @ 3:25 pm

    – Well-played, sir.

    Icy (14327b)

  60. diamond in da back
    sunroof top diggin’ teh scene
    wit’ a gangsta lean

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  61. I have just updated the post.

    House Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy pulled his column from Breitbart California. He was one of a stellar list of contributors lined up to provide content.

    Dana (9f8700)

  62. Since Hirsi Ali is an atheist, you’d think Brandeis would be embracing her.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  63. “So tasteless, that… I mean, is it even worthy of a question. It’s so undignified.”

    You mean, just like climbing the Capitol steps with an outsized gavel and an equally outsized smirk on your face during your “win” on a multi-thousand page piece of legislation you didn’t even bother to read, Nancy? That kind of undignified?

    Sorry if it wasn’t to taste, Nancy. However, we do have a First Amendment, and it was written specifically to cover such speech. Tell ya wot, hon: you find it in that black heart of yours to ban U.S. flag burning, then we can talk about your hurt feelings over some other form of political dissent that attacks you directly, mmmkay?

    Bill H (f9e4cd)

  64. Like his mom, he’ll probably reveal himself to be a general airhead, but he will have done enough groundwork to ride his family name to prominence in liberal quarters.

    Observing the Kennedy clan is an interesting case study in which apparently just about every member of that family leans left—has there ever been a Kennedy who was conservative or even truly centrist? So pretty much everyone in that crowd has a cloned ideology. Nurture or nature?

    Then there’s the matter of the Reagans, in which Ron Reagan Jr and his sister Patti, unlike their parents, were through-and-through liberals (and Ron is pretty damn leftwing), while the two older kids leaned right. Nurture or nature?

    BTW, Schlossberg’s maternal grandad was way more of a reprobate than originally assumed, based on revelations that came out about him around 2 years ago. During one occasion when JFK and a few of his people were lounging around the White House swimming pool, he asked a young female White House intern to perform — in front of everyone — fellatio on his top presidential aide. Jackie and the kids were reportedly away on a trip at the time.

    I guess I was just a bit less surprised by that bit of insider news than I was to learn not too long ago that FDR was a surprisingly bigoted person behind closed doors.

    Liberals: Can’t live with them, can’t live without ‘em.

    Mark (14c5d3)

  65. @ 21

    “That’s the problem. That ship has already sailed. If they did it to Palin, then it can and will be done to one’s political adversary. You may not like it, but that’s the world we live in.”

    If your excuse for your own side’s bad behavior is “This is what the standard is now,” you’ve already lost.

    Demosthenes (cb38dd)

  66. Breitbart is not “our side”. It’s its own side. You are confusing us with the Democrats. They have a captive media that does what Debbie Wasserman-Schulz tells it to.

    nk (dbc370)

  67. especially if what the standard is now is jeb bush

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  68. This same guy put up posters of “homie” Ted Cruz. You might have seen it. Ted with jailhouse tattoos, in a wifebeater t-shirt, with a cigarette hanging out of his mouth. Ted Cruz’s comment, “The cigarette is not accurate. I don’t smoke.”

    nk (dbc370)

  69. Yes, he’ kind of a guerilla artist, the picture causes deep revulsion, in part because unlike Dorian Grey, it reveals a disturbing truth

    narciso (3fec35)

  70. narciso,

    Do you believe the guerrilla art to be the most effective way to reveal said disturbing truth?

    I tend to believe there were several reasons for selecting the art in the debut: It would be an in-your-face no holds bar statement about what Pelosi has done to California. It had shock value, which I suppose the Breitbart people hoped might provoke conversation about her impact on the state, or about the Breitbart site itself – either way, they get a reaction. And perhaps, they wanted to show from the get-go, they are a no nonsense, no holds barred operation and mean business.

    Or they just like to objectify both men and women.

    Dana (9f8700)

  71. Maybe I’ll go Lenny Bruce here, without the expletives and point out, the real obscenity is what Maerose as someone put has wrought on California,

    When the Huntress was dodging death threats, re Tucson, I must have missed McCarthy’s denunciations, in fact the most significant thing he has done recently is escort Kevin Spacey as prep work for the First Season of ;House of Cards;

    narciso (3fec35)

  72. Kinda sorta OT re: Elijah Cummings’ portrayal as a righteously indignant protector of Public Servants.

    http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2014/04/collusion-oversights-elijah-cummings-d.html

    Appropriately revulsed are we?

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  73. 68. How’s about you pick an appropriately ethnic handle azzlapper and drop the faux Grecian appellation?

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  74. Art is evocative. The artist’s intentions are irrelevant. What I see is tawdry adolescence descending into senility without achieving maturity. I agree.

    nk (dbc370)

  75. 76. It can be translated “power to the people”.

    nk (dbc370)

  76. I think I pointed out earlier ‘game over man’ doesn’t fit the nick,

    narciso (3fec35)

  77. @ 69

    There are two sides in American politics — the left and the right. Both sides are broad, and each side includes people that some other people on that side would rather not be even tangentially associated with. Doesn’t matter. Read any Breitbart site, and they are most definitely of the right. You may not agree with what they say all the time. I don’t. But they’re on my side, in a way that (say) Mother Jones is certainly not.

    Related tangent: I had a college professor who used to protest vociferously when I referred to “his side,” meaning the Democrats. You see, he was a registered independent, and certainly wasn’t lockstep with the Democrats on everything. Why, he had only reluctantly voted for Obama, who struck him as maybe a bit too centrist. Occasionally, he even found a Republican he deemed not entirely worthy of jail time. You know, like that Chafee fellow. And Specter had his moments.

    I didn’t buy his bull, and I ain’t buying yours either.

    @ 70

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MRmxfLuNto

    Demosthenes (cb38dd)

  78. @ 76

    Just click on the link I sent #70. I mean it with twice as much feeling in your case, you dip.

    Demosthenes (cb38dd)

  79. If your excuse for your own side’s bad behavior is “This is what the standard is now,” you’ve already lost.

    translated “No Fair!!!! you’re using the same weapons & tactics we use!!!!!!!!!!! how DARE you!

    (PS: bite me.)

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  80. @ 83

    Which would be a stinging retort, if I were a leftist and/or I supported what the left had done to people like Sarah Palin. Since neither is true, which a cursory review of my comments would make clear, I can only conclude you didn’t read them before posting. And that would make you…a moron. Congratulations.

    Demosthenes (cb38dd)

  81. There’s certainly nothing holy about Nancy Pelosi and as a politician, she is ripe for ridicule. She’s a lying, partisan, contemptible witch. She needs to thicken her hide.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  82. Ah the same useless Senators like Arlen ‘scottish law’ Specter and Chaffee who’s now ‘come out’ as a Democrat,

    narciso (3fec35)

  83. And of course, saying @ 83 when I meant @ 82 doesn’t speak so well for me either. What can I say? Roll around with pigs, you get dirty.

    Demosthenes (cb38dd)

  84. Don’t be so hard on yourself, 83.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  85. Soooooey! Pig!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  86. Demosthenes, you sound as though politics does make you unhappy. This illusion we call the world is of no more consequence on the Great Wheel than a fly momentatily alighting on a rock. Calm the strife in your soul and accept a greater Cosmic Consciousness.

    nk (dbc370)

  87. Seriously. No. I do not denounce other voices in the Party.

    nk (dbc370)

  88. Well, not when I don’t want to, anyway.

    nk (dbc370)

  89. of course i’m a moron: i have a lifetime Palladium membership over at AoSHQ…

    however, if by “moron” you mean an intellectually dishonest, blithering idiot, i’d have to say that’s impossible, because i have nothing in common with you, other than posting here.

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  90. You guys are harshing my buzz. Dana, what is your opinion about what I said about art? And don’t be coy, you do know something about it. That the artist may intend any number of things, but in the end it’s the audience which decides what the message is?

    nk (dbc370)

  91. I think I like the Pelosi art itself just fine. I wouldn’t mind at all if it mysteriously appeared on every utility pole, and at every boarded up business and under the windshield wiper of every car in California. When one views it as a modern street art version in the long long history of famous and infamous political cartoons–many of which were absolutely lewd and vicious in the days before political correctness– it has something really rather important to say about Ms. Pelosi and Cslifornia.

    What I do kind of object to is that it was used with the Breitbart name on a Breitbart site. I agree with whomever above said that Andrew likely would not have allowed it. Not because he was a prig, but because it just is not his style of messaging or counter-attack. So I think using said venue was very possibly a mistake or miscalculation from that standpoint.

    As far as “prominent women” objecting I have little sympathy. Many women are smart and talented and have done great things in medicine, science, business and even politics in the public eye. Yeah us!! But many others like Nancy Pelosi and Kathleen Sebelius and Hillary, and Susan Rice, who have been given great opportunity and responsibilities, have embarrassed and disgusted me as another woman. I don’t think they get a pass because they have two x chromosomes. I want women everywhere to have a fair chance to succeed and be respected. But I am not willing to excuse incompetence and venality and worse in some women or treat them as untouchable or delicate flowers when they have clearly shown us their dark ugly side. I don’t necessarily think women standing as one in unison to “protect the honor of the fair sex” applies here.

    elissa (b364f8)

  92. I know y’all will be surprised and disappointed to find our opposition advocates are not what they appear to be, but here you go:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-09/meet-rep-mike-rogers-crony-capitalist-warfare-state-benghazi-blowhard

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  93. You’re way too generous with teh two X chromosomes and Hillary, elissa.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  94. Well she previously worked in DHS, customs, and formerly served in Iraq,

    narciso (3fec35)

  95. Heh, Col. BTW, I am putting together the schedule for teh windshield wiper crews for Friday. Can you start at 8:30am or is that too early? Would there be more parked cars at 9:00?

    elissa (b364f8)

  96. Sorry elissa, I got teh oral surgery tomorrow and I gotta feeling car parking won’t be on the program for Friday.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  97. During one occasion when JFK and a few of his people were lounging around the White House swimming pool, he asked a young female White House intern to perform — in front of everyone — fellatio on his top presidential aide. Jackie and the kids were reportedly away on a trip at the time.

    Hell, it’s worse than that. According to the woman’s memoir, from which the above story is taken, JFK took her virginity when she was 19 by essentially raping her, at least by the standards recognized at universities today.

    I had a female professor in college who had been an undergraduate at Radcliffe in the 1950s. She says that JFK used to send his car and driver around to the Radcliffe campus, and the driver would proposition pretty young coeds by asking them if they wanted to “meet” Senator Kennedy. Apparently all the ‘Cliffies knew exactly what it mean to meet JFK, and they used to joke about it amongst themselves. She admits, though, that some of her classmates took him up on the offer.

    JVW (9946b6)

  98. gary – Not very quality reporting as usual from Zerohedge, just cutting and pasting a piece from hack Dick Morris. Aegis, where Rogers’ second wife (married 2010?) was CEO of U.S. operations had been getting government security contracts for years. Fun thing is Hillary, Peelosi and Barcky all protested awards to firm in 2004 and 2005. Under Barcky Admin, not so much.

    Still does not exculpate State Department from turning down requests for additional security in Benghazi or operating facility with below minimum department security in failed state. Morris is barking up wrong tree.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  99. JFK took her virginity when she was 19 by essentially raping her

    He and Bill “Juanita-Broaddrick” Clinton would make one great duo.

    Meanwhile, their successor, Barack Obama, has a history of cavorting around bath houses in Chicago, but that at least presumably involved purely consensual activity. Moreover, such skeevy personal behavior is made up for by the great common sense and good decisionmaking skills of such heroes of the Democrat Party. Yes, uh-huh.

    They say that liberalism is a mental disorder. Now more than ever before, I don’t think that comment is sarcastic or glib. I think it’s truly, plainly descriptive.

    BTW, if many Americans have a warm spot in their heart for JFK, and feel that unveiling the truth behind the facade of “Camelot” is an unfair thing to do, they should ponder whether their emotions would be quite so pitter-patter, pitter-patter if the superficial aspects of the presidency of the early 1960s — of youth and beauty, of a photogenic president, photogenic wife and photogenic kids — were substituted with something closer to, say, Michelle Obama or, better yet, Bess Truman.

    Mark (14c5d3)

  100. @ nk,

    Dana, what is your opinion about what I said about art? (Art is evocative. The artist’s intentions are irrelevant.)is?

    nk, what motivates the artist is probably mostly irrelevant to the viewer. However, I think artists tend to be very wrapped up in motivation and rarely are able to separate from it. And why should they? Their work is of course, an fruition of that motivation. Hence, expression. It’s a different experience for viewer and creator and I don’t know that one is able to fully grasp the other. The artist can’t look at his creation objectively; the viewer simply can’t know all the angst, passion, difficulty, etc., that was expended to create the work. But yes, I agree with you, to a point. (I want to think more about this).

    I enjoy street art with it’s edgy dark themes and thousand-yard glare at the world. In this case, I am distracted by the sensationalism of it – so much so, that anything meaningful becomes irrelevant. I just don’t care and the word “gimmick” comes to mind. It’s trying too hard.

    Dana (9f8700)

  101. elissa @ 94,

    I want women everywhere to have a fair chance to succeed and be respected. But I am not willing to excuse incompetence and venality and worse in some women or treat them as untouchable or delicate flowers when they have clearly shown us their dark ugly side. I don’t necessarily think women standing as one in unison to “protect the honor of the fair sex” applies here.

    I was hoping you would comment in depth, elissa. Thank you. I am chewing it over. I especially like the para above.

    When I mentioned war on women in the post, it was said dryly and tinged with a shot of sarcasm. I hope that came across.

    I, too, want women to succeed, and in real life, I cheer on and support female colleagues, even if they are competitors (for promotion, etc). We both know that women are not natural supporters of other women. And in politics, we saw this confirmed in spades. Yes, Democratic women opted to slice and dice Palin (whether overtly or tacitly), and we knew if parties were reversed, there would be an outrage. For me, it simply wasn’t right with Palin, and therefore, wouldn’t be with any other woman of any political persuasion. Left or right, I’m equal opportunity in this matter.

    But, in this specific case, my complaint about the Pelosi depiction (other than what I stated in my comment above), is, I am disappointed that they apparently felt using *this* depiction was the most effective way to make their point (or take a shot across the bow of the opposition). I hoped for more.

    Dana (9f8700)

  102. My view is that the majority of artists in our time are/were primarily commercially driven and actually expend very little “angst, passion and difficulty.” They find a type of story to tell that people seem to respond to, and once they settle in their niche or genre they exploit the hell out of it. (Think Thomas Kinkade, Leroy Neiman, Georgia O’Keefe, Andy Warhol.) Although they are far less famous, I think the poster art of Shepard Fairy or this outsider street art by Sabo fall into that category, too.

    elissa (90a89a)

  103. 39. Comment by elissa (b364f8) — 4/9/2014 @ 2:44 pm

    I saw a picture of John Bouvier Kennedy (Jack) Schlossberg and his rippling muscles strolling along a beach. And he reportedly gave a powerful speech at the Presidential Medal of Freedom ceremony that marked the 50th anniversary of his grandfather’s death. So, six pack and speeches. He’s definitely being groomed for something. I think he’s around 21.

    According to Wikipedia:

    He was born January 19, 1993, so he’s 21. He writes for the Yale Daily News and Yale Herald, and a letter defending his grandfather’s Presidential record against columnist Ross Douthat’s claim that his presidency was a near disaster was published by the New York Times on December 3, 2011.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/03/opinion/jfks-legacy-as-seen-by-his-grandson.html?_r=1&

    A charity was created for him: In the eighth grade, says Wikipedia, Schlossberg “co-founded” ReLight New York, which raised more than $100,000 to install compact fluorescent lights in low-income housing developments. In the hallways and the elevators?

    At Yale, he is receiving EMT training, but he aims to pursue a political career of some sort after college:

    http://www.irishcentral.com/news/jfks-only-grandson-set-to-pursue-a-political-career-after-college-169062286-237527661.html

    Sammy Finkelman (93900b)


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