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3/25/2014

Another Obama Red Line Ignored

Filed under: General — JD @ 7:34 pm

[guest post by JD]

SHOCKA

The honor system. You can’t make this stuff up.

Have they adhered to even one deadline?

—JD

43 Responses to “Another Obama Red Line Ignored”

  1. Raise your hand if this surprised you.

    JD (534747)

  2. I was worried I had to finish before Monday if I was gonna enroll but I figured they’d extend it. Gives me a few more days.

    They never sent me the emails they promised back in December or January, bastages.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  3. I hope they extend it forever.

    felipe (6100bc)

  4. I have both middle fingers extended as a heartfelt salute to His Eminence, Teh Won.

    Colonel Haiku (64e8e4)

  5. Obama don’t need no stinkin’ deadlines.

    Ag80 (eb6ffa)

  6. It’s the millions and millions of our dollars that have been spent and all the lives already damaged——there are no words.

    elissa (27f83f)

  7. Statutes and law be damned.

    JD (5c1832)

  8. R.I.P. Lucius Shepard, one of the best science fiction writers of the past thirty years

    Icy (14327b)

  9. Oh, and the extension deadline is now Tax Day? Cute.

    Icy (14327b)

  10. It shuts up people from complaining about the exhanges.

    SarahW (267b14)

  11. obama should have an extension in his butt i think

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  12. I would like to remind everyone that Congress passed the law and the Supreme Court confirmed it. It is the law of the land.*

    * Never mind. It is affordable, though**

    ** Well, not really.

    It is the law of the land. Really.

    Does anyone know the difference between the 18th Amendment and Obamacare?

    The people actually voted for the 18th. And repealed it with the 21st.

    We will never have that chance with the unconstitutional, forced law of Obamacare.

    Ag80 (eb6ffa)

  13. ==It shuts up people from complaining about the exhanges.==

    I’m not so sure about that, Sarah. I think the deadline changes and uncertainty are really starting to annoy the affected people quite a bit.

    elissa (27f83f)

  14. Obama doesn’t comply with things like the law, the Constitution, or deadlines. That’s for the little people.

    He also just created a new entitlement. If you saw my comments you’ll notice that Halbig v. Sebelius (and three other cases) is proceeding through the courts. It’s the first one to reach the appeals level.

    All four are similar as they contend that the IRS has no authority to offer subsidies except to those who purchase insurance on qualified state exchanges. The text of the statute is clear. It makes a distinction between state exchanges and the federal exchange. That’s because they wanted to states to operate their own system, and as a carrot the law provides subsidies of the residents of compliant states. Not to uncooperative states.

    Well, in addition to defending the IRS rule by arguing that the federal exchanges are state exchanges, Obama just eliminated the word “exchange” entirely from the law. He just decreed that people who went directly to insurance companies because all the exchanges were so hosed up also are going to get subsidies.

    He’s brazenly flouting the law. And in case you missed it his DoJ submitted a notice of “supplemental authority” to the Appeals court hearing the Halbig case informing it that they are going to ignore any adverse ruling.

    So now in addition to giving the finger to Congress he’s flipping the bird at the judiciary. And consequently the American people.

    Steve57 (4507bb)

  15. If only we had a viable justice department.

    elissa (27f83f)

  16. I’d vote for this lady.

    http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=yahoo&ei=UTF-8&fr=w3i&type=W3i_DS,136,0_0,Search,20110939,6901,0,8,0

    Too bad she’s too attractive for the Republican womenfolk.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  17. link doesn’t work Mr. gary

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  18. 15. If only we had a viable justice department.

    Comment by elissa (27f83f) — 3/25/2014 @ 8:45 pm

    Oh, it’s viable. But just as Obama gets to redefine statutes and the Constitution on a whim, the DoJ has it’s own new definition of the word “justice.”

    It’s whatever they say it as the moment. And if the courts won’t clean up their act and get with the Department’s program, they’ll act without them. “We can’t wait!”

    Steve57 (4507bb)

  19. Democrats need to run on Obamacare this year!

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  20. 17. Oh, dang.

    http://minx.cc/?post=348106

    Nice lipstick.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  21. And to think those evil Republicans wanted to alleviate all the pain and idiocy the American people have been put through and the incompetent ninny Obama said sorry, no can do. Who’s eating the sh*t sammich now, America?

    Colonel Haiku (a6d597)

  22. That Ernst lady will have her work cut out for her!

    Colonel Haiku (a6d597)

  23. I believe her, though.

    elissa (27f83f)

  24. Oh, my. Look at this rather awkward moment our dear leader experienced at a press conference today in Europe.

    “Blah, blah, blah,” he exclaimed and proclaimed, and no one in their right mind can, or should, take him seriously.

    Mark (6ccde7)

  25. I suppose they’re saying “mid-April” so that when mid-April arrives, and they have to extend it again because of numbers, it will look less wishy-washy without having had a hard and fast date set.

    Dana (9f8700)

  26. If you look around the comments on many conservative blogs and what not, one thing that the leftists always bring up is:

    What is the GOP alternative to Obamacare?

    That seems to be the go-to point. If Obamacare is so bad, what is the right’s alternative?

    Does anybody else besides me see the blatantly obvious response? And why not?

    The reason I ask is because the “leadership” of the right and the GOP have no idea how to answer the question. That’s a problem.

    Ag80 (eb6ffa)

  27. “The truth of the matter is the world’s always been messy.”

    Thanks Barry, I feel a lot better now.

    Idiot.

    AZ Bob (533fbc)

  28. What is the GOP alternative to Obamacare?

    put things back as they were would be a good start.

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  29. Obama will soon waive paying the premiums.

    Perfect Sense (4d5c72)

  30. When you have a trainwreck, you’re supposed to find another one?

    narciso (3fec35)

  31. Oh, the President can extend and extend and set aside deadlines written into the law by Congress, but retract a regulation mandating contraceptive coverage which wasn’t in the law? Heaven forfend! He’ll defend that to the death!

    The sarcastic Dana (3e4784)

  32. Ag80 wrote:

    What is the GOP alternative to Obamacare?

    That seems to be the go-to point. If Obamacare is so bad, what is the right’s alternative?

    Does anybody else besides me see the blatantly obvious response? And why not?

    The reason I ask is because the “leadership” of the right and the GOP have no idea how to answer the question. That’s a problem.

    That is a problem, because no one is willing to tell the truth. The sole purpose of the law was to establish the principle that the federal government is ultimately responsible for seeing to it that the individual has health care coverage, and the details of how that can be accomplished can always be worked out later. If we can repeal the law, without replacing it, we will break that established principle before it really gets going.

    That will mean, in the starkest of terms, that some people won’t be able to get health care coverage when they need it. I am willing to see that happen! Whether other conservatives are, I don’t know, but damned few seem to be willing to say it.

    The Dana who tells the truth (3e4784)

  33. The real Chicago way. In video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlTQFDEqk0k

    nk (dbc370)

  34. I’m extending the deadline to pay your federal income taxes to Never 12th. You’re welcome.

    Colonel Haiku (a6d597)

  35. Oh, the President can extend and extend and set aside deadlines written into the law by Congress, but retract a regulation mandating contraceptive coverage which wasn’t in the law? Heaven forfend! He’ll defend that to the death!

    Try to codify any of his extensions into law, and they threaten to veto. Hell, he shut down the govt over a delay of individual mandate, and then turned around and did just that.

    JD (534747)

  36. The honor system will only work for those the IRS inspectors like. Others will have to defend their actions.

    Davod (4cc250)

  37. 26. If you look around the comments on many conservative blogs and what not, one thing that the leftists always bring up is:

    What is the GOP alternative to Obamacare?

    That seems to be the go-to point. If Obamacare is so bad, what is the right’s alternative?

    Does anybody else besides me see the blatantly obvious response? And why not?

    The reason I ask is because the “leadership” of the right and the GOP have no idea how to answer the question. That’s a problem.

    Comment by Ag80 (eb6ffa) — 3/25/2014 @ 9:31 pm

    I can see several possible responses. But one that screams out at me is to point out that the left claims to want to fix it, but they have no ideas how to do it. It’s just an empty campaign talking point. If they knew how to fix it, they never would have screwed it up so badly in the first place.

    I would dearly love to ask Sheila Jackson Lee for her thoughts on the subject. Rush has a transcript of of her comments on the Malaysian Air flight 370. Based on this and her past comments, it would be pure comedy gold.

    http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/03/25/cnn_refuses_to_accept_lost_plane_verdict_and_then_there_s_sheila_jackson_lee

    …This was on the floor of the House, Sheila Jackson Lee (Democrat-Texas) speaking about the missing Malaysian Airlines Flight 370…

    LEE: I call upon the aviation industry to stop hiding behind costs and how much it costs and start ensuring that our pilots and our customers, our flying public, are safe. Why do we have the capacity, uh, to dismantle the transponders? Why wasn’t the emergency call already in place that it automatically signals when a[n] aircraft goes off its, uh, discerned or destinated — uh, destiny and destination –

    RUSH: Jeez. (laughing)

    LEE: — uh, as relates to, uh, its flight pattern.

    RUSH: Jeez.

    LEE: Why does it have to be done manually?

    RUSH: Oh, my God, folks, are we in so much trouble. This is a congressional leader. This whole thing is a satire, is a parody. (laughing) “I call upon the ‘avenation’ industry, to stop hiding behind cost and how much things cost and start ensuring that our beloved pilots and our precious customers, our precious flying public are safe! Why can somebody turn off the transponder?

    “Why wasn’t the emergency call already in place when the plane goes off its discerned or ‘destinated’ destiny, as relates to its flight pattern?” (laughing) It’s “destinated destiny,” which in this case happened … (laughing) … happened to be… (laughing) She’s a leader of the Democrat Party, folks, in the House! (sigh)

    The “discerned destinated destiny” was Beijing.

    Steve57 (a017ec)

  38. That’s an example of the kind of brain power the Democrats relied on to create Obamacare. Just getting her and Mr. Guam might tip over on camera to create the soundbites of how they have great ideas to fix Obamacare could swing the election as the voters flee in terror.

    Steve57 (a017ec)

  39. “You’ve done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?”

    in_awe (7c859a)

  40. Apparently, it won’t even be necessary to have created a log-in before March 31.

    I wasn’t sure they’d go 100% on the honor system, although I think already did that before for the latest date to sign up in order to get an January 1 effective date deadline (you could claim you had trouble.)

    I suppose I would have thought that has an 80% or higher probability.

    They didn’t say this before, because they wanted people to think there’s a deadline.

    They technically didn’t give a blanket extension – they just said anybody could claim they had had started the process, but encountered difficulty.

    Sammy Finkelman (d6ef88)

  41. In spite of a New York Timed editorial on Monday..

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/22/opinion/health-care-caricature.html

    Republican leaders are making preposterous assertions that President Obama has abandoned a centerpiece of his health care reforms — the requirement that most people obtain comprehensive insurance or pay a penalty. In a cartoonish misrepresentation of how so-called hardship exemptions will be determined, the leaders, egged on by their allies in the conservative media, contend that recent steps by the administration undermine the individual mandate by giving virtually everyone who wants one a free pass to escape the penalty….

    …Republicans also point to a catchall category that says that people may be eligible for an exemption if they “experienced another hardship in obtaining health insurance,” such as, perhaps, difficulty completing enrollment through balky websites. They must submit documentation “if possible.” But applicants who fail to document their case will only weaken their chances of getting an exemption. As always, exchange officials will make the final judgment and, we assume, reject specious claims…

    ….I suspect they will be almost as lenient in waiving the individual mandate penalty/tax – maybe leaving it in place if someone’s income in 2014 is above a very high level – probably not less than 6 x poverty.

    You’ll just have to assert hardship because no insurance policy you could find as affordable on the 2014 1040 forms.

    But because they want to encourage/scare people into signing up, they’ll reveal that as late as possible.

    I don’t know what they’d say if, say, Coca Cola acted the way they are doing. I don’t know what even the comedians would say about this.

    Sammy Finkelman (d6ef88)

  42. They could also maybe use the ratio between the lowest policy available to the tax filer on the exchange and adjusted gross income, but that would be more complicated to figure out.

    I don’t know if the New York Times editorial writers actually believe that exchange officials will…..reject specious claims…

    They just “assume” that.

    Sammy Finkelman (d6ef88)


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