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2/7/2014

Jobs Report Terrible; Meanwhile, Democrats Reject Measures Designed to Make Sure People Work

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:31 am

We have yet another dismal jobs report: only 113,000 new jobs added last month. It’s well short of what is needed to keep up with population growth, which means more and more unemployed people all the time. AP calls this “surprisingly weak,” but I have no idea why. The Democrat policymakers holding our economy hostage have demands, and all of them contribute to higher unemployment: extension of unemployment benefits, a higher minimum wage, and the biggest job killer of them all: ObamaCare.

Why, it’s almost as if they want an increasing number of unemployed people who will have to rely on the government for survival.

Crazy talk, you say? Then why are they opposing measures designed to make sure people actually work?

A second attempt to restore benefits for the long-term unemployed failed in the Senate on Thursday — just shy of clearing a key procedural hurdle.

The 58-40 cloture vote on the $6 billion measure to extend jobless aid (which lapsed at the end of December) for three months to roughly 1.7 million Americans delivered a blow to a key Obama administration agenda item, as the president pushed for an extension in his State of the Union address last month.

. . . .

“Rather than work with us to find common ground, the majority leader once again chose to reject our ideas and block action on amendments to improve and pay for this legislation,” said Republican Sen. Dan Coats, whose home state of Indiana has an unemployment rate above the national average. Coats proposed an amendment to bar the unemployed from receiving benefits if they turned down a job offer or chose not to apply for a job referred by the state employment agency.

So: Republicans are saying that people taking unemployment have to try to get jobs, and can’t turn them down if they are offered. And Democrats are rejecting that proposal. Why would that be?

Majority Leader Harry Reid pledged to bring the measure back again, and switched his vote to “no” in a procedural motion to return to the issue, which Democrats see as integral to their 2014 midterm messaging in light of favorable public opinion on extending the benefits.

Ah. Politics. No fun telling people that they have to actually try to get work, and take it if it’s offered.

So no, AP, it’s not “surprising” that unemployment is still a disaster under these people. Apparently, it’s all part of the plan.

184 Comments

  1. Hoping to beat Dana to the punch…

    Comment by gramps, the original (64b8ca) — 2/7/2014 @ 7:49 am

  2. We told them this wouldn’t work back in 2009. Did they listen? No. Are they listening yet? No.

    They are insistent that their plan to jumpstart the economy with prayer wheels and perpetual-motion machines will start working any day now and are irate that we are refusing to give them our support.

    Comment by Kevin M (536c5d) — 2/7/2014 @ 7:52 am

  3. Unemployment “unexpectedly” jumped and jobs added were “surprisingly weak,” unlike the previous 60-some months of unexpected high unemployment and weak job growth.

    Comment by CrustyB (d4da92) — 2/7/2014 @ 7:54 am

  4. These guys have performed so badly that it is likely that John Hagelin and the Natural Law Party would have done better.

    As Frank Fleming points out, a sack of hammers as president would have done less damage.

    Comment by Kevin M (536c5d) — 2/7/2014 @ 7:57 am

  5. But hey, the unemployment rate is down to 6.6%.

    GOOD NEWS!!!!1!!

    Comment by Kevin M (536c5d) — 2/7/2014 @ 7:59 am

  6. http://finance.townhall.com/columnists/larrykudlow

    Comment by mg (31009b) — 2/7/2014 @ 8:04 am

  7. Off topic, but Attorney Jacobsen reports on the new mandatory Obamacare race questionnaire in doctors’ offices.

    My question is for the lawyers here, what would be a reasonable way to refuse to answer this? I think it’s high time for a concerted, organized resistance campaign. Before it’s really too late.

    http://legalinsurrection.com/2014/02/you-cannot-just-say-no-to-the-obamacare-race-questionnaire/comment-page-1/#comments

    Comment by Patricia (be0117) — 2/7/2014 @ 8:35 am

  8. The second straight month of weak hiring – marked by declines in retail, utilities, government, and education and health employment – could be a problem for the Federal Reserve, which is tapering its monthly bond-purchasing stimulus program.

    Employers are no longer “employee locked.”

    d. wildst will be along any moment to give us the WH spin on how this is a good thing.

    “Thanks to the economic incentives provided by the President, employers are now freed from having to deal with a bunch of people who really would rather not work anyway. What’s wrong with freedom?”

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/7/2014 @ 9:03 am

  9. Remember Hurrican Sandy?

    Shoppers were no longer “store locked.”

    http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/mobi/storm/widespread-looting-reported-in-atlantic-city/article_f6ba55d0-2493-11e2-a0cf-001a4bcf887a.html

    Widespread looting reported in Atlantic City

    Why go to the store for those flat screen TVs? Or pay, for that matter?

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/7/2014 @ 9:10 am

  10. welcome to Obamamerica…

    where failure is your only option.

    Comment by redc1c4 (abd49e) — 2/7/2014 @ 9:41 am

  11. Rushbo opened his show this AM featuring a withering WSJ editorial castigating the zero-sum growth “Conservatives” and the feckless House over the postponement of Amnesty because of the historic infidelity of C*cks*cker-in-Chief Crack Whore to his oath of office.

    The Rapists of we Racists don’t know their own business model.

    Comment by gary gulrud (e2cef3) — 2/7/2014 @ 10:00 am

  12. 5. Segue:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2014/02/People%20not%20in%20labor%20force.jpg

    Comment by gary gulrud (e2cef3) — 2/7/2014 @ 10:05 am

  13. 5. But hey, the unemployment rate is down to 6.6%.

    GOOD NEWS!!!!1!!

    Comment by Kevin M (536c5d) — 2/7/2014 @ 7:59 am

    Are you kidding? It’s GREAT news!!!

    When Barack Obama took office in January 2009, the labor participation rate was 65.7%. According to the January report it’s now 63%.

    Think of all those people who’ve been “unlocked” from jobs. In fact, I would encourage the Preezy to order the BLS to change the official term from “labor force participation rate” to “job locked rate.”

    So we’ve seen an increase in people who are no longer job locked since Obama took office. And as the number of people not working grows and the number of people looking for work drops, then that means all those millions not working are increasingly enjoying their funemployment.

    Since to be counted as unemployed you have to be seeking work, then that 6.6% means there are still Americans who are too stupid to know they should be thanking Barack Obama for freeing them from the drudgery of work. The Democrats have plans to reduce that number, as Pat helpfully observes. I believe once we get the “Too Stupid To Know They Should Be Thanking Obama” rate down below 4% we’ll have effectively achieved “full funemployment.”

    We’re not there yet, but we’re closing in on it. Great job, Preezy and the Democrats!

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/7/2014 @ 10:09 am

  14. red, there’s a good post up at AoSHQ about that.

    http://minx.cc/?post=346985

    The Pursuit of Happiness

    Done. You Can Stop Chasing It Now

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/7/2014 @ 10:15 am

  15. “which Democrats see as integral to their 2014 midterm messaging”

    I gots some bad news for zero-sum employment “Progressives”–Messaging only works when peoples are attending to that which spews from your buccal cavities.

    Comment by gary gulrud (e2cef3) — 2/7/2014 @ 10:16 am

  16. the biggest job killer of them all: ObamaCare.

    it will take four to six months of results like that for them to start attributing low job growth to Obamacare.

    Actually, this trend should accelerate, as people pay premiums, (till now it;s only been in anticipation) or possibly, instead, they will tend to default on the premiums they agreed to.

    Comment by Sammy Finkelman (dfe091) — 2/7/2014 @ 10:19 am

  17. 9. Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/7/2014 @ 9:10 am

    Shoppers were no longer “store locked.”

    ….

    Why go to the store for those flat screen TVs? Or pay, for that matter? </i.

    I thought Jeff Bezos did that.

    The looters still had to go to a store./

    Comment by Sammy Finkelman (dfe091) — 2/7/2014 @ 10:22 am

  18. I love watching the effect of 6 inches of snow on Tri-State streets.

    Take that employment enhancement, loons.

    Comment by gary gulrud (e2cef3) — 2/7/2014 @ 10:26 am

  19. Seems low.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/02/oncoming-disaster-44-of-employers-likely-to-cut-heath-insurance-43-million-americans-to-lose-coverage/

    This year’s taxes prolly have their attention at the moment.

    Comment by gary gulrud (e2cef3) — 2/7/2014 @ 10:34 am

  20. Coats proposed an amendment to bar the unemployed from receiving benefits if they turned down a job offer or chose not to apply for a job referred by the state employment agency.

    A few years back I briefly found myself between jobs and was on unemployment. I did the requisite daily job search using various media for job postings, networking, etc.

    The CA EDD was quite helpful in matching me with jobs and training that it felt leveraged my MBA and 25 years of white collar and management experience. I was repeatedly sent (by mail!) information about training in or positions running a bulldozer, pipefitting, long distance trucking, etc. Even after I spoke with the EDD about this “help” the mail just kept coming.

    I shudder to think that someone actually proposed mandating someone must take a job referred by the state.

    Comment by in_awe (7c859a) — 2/7/2014 @ 10:41 am

  21. We could start call Obama the Great Accidental Emancipator. He didn’t know the result of his policies would result in freeing or prolonging the freedom of so many people from job lock and enabling them to pursue their freedom and happiness on the government dole until he read about it in the newspaper. Winning!

    Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 2/7/2014 @ 10:42 am

  22. 20. If I were a young man today I would blow my first $5K after HS on getting a CDL before college, vo-tech, military service, whatever.

    One could then work a year in the Bakken and have the scratch to do what a year’s of ruminating and cogitating on what you really wanted to do with your life.

    I have an acquaintance who’s son stumbled on a career backpacking in NZ in eco-tourism photographic archival that more than compensates yearly family trips down under.

    An anecdotal example, but going straight to 6 or 7 years in public U is frankly, daft for most.

    Comment by gary gulrud (e2cef3) — 2/7/2014 @ 11:05 am

  23. I’m sort of intrigued by the notion that unemployment offers another option to people–that they can go write poetry–who do the liberals think will do the work to support all of those poets?

    Comment by rochf (f3fbb0) — 2/7/2014 @ 11:13 am

  24. 23. I’m sort of intrigued by the notion that unemployment offers another option to people–that they can go write poetry–who do the liberals think will do the work to support all of those poets?

    Comment by rochf (f3fbb0) — 2/7/2014 @ 11:13 am

    Bingo! These people who are no longer “job locked” and can afford health insurance thanks to Obamacare can only afford not to work because somebody else is forced to pay for it. Or they’re fined by the IRS if they refuse to participate in the forced wealth-transfer scheme.

    This is the Democrats idea of freedom. Some people shouldn’t have to work because others can be forced to work to support them.

    But then, this has been the Democrats idea of freedom since the days of the antebellum South.

    “Oh I wish I were in land of cotton…”

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/7/2014 @ 11:28 am

  25. Obama loves poor people so much he creates more of them.

    Winning!

    Forward!

    Heckuva job Barky!

    No child left a dime.

    Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 2/7/2014 @ 11:43 am

  26. Oh to be free from the wretched tyranny of a job

    Comment by JD (265833) — 2/7/2014 @ 11:45 am

  27. If you’re going to live on the Democratic party’s plantation, JD, it’s better to be a member of the leisure class.

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/7/2014 @ 11:47 am

  28. I guess if you’re only working part time so you don’t lose the subsidy provided by somebody working full time, that makes you one of the overseers.

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/7/2014 @ 11:48 am

  29. I wish this were O/T, but looking at the wreckage Obama is wreaking on the economy unfortunately it’s not.

    If you’re going to get a wood burning stove, get it now.

    http://www.woodburningstoves.com/

    Because (and you knew this was coming)…

    http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2014/01/07/epas-next-target-wood-burning-stoves-n1772991

    When the power goes out because of Obama’s EPA regs and it’s record cold, thou shalt not heat thy home with wood.

    Let’s face it; you probably couldn’t afford to buy wood just like you won’t be able to afford to heat your home when your energy costs necessarily skyrocket. Because, global warming!

    In fact, if you’re caught burning wood to heat your home you’ll probably get raided by the IRS and state and federal forestry SWAT teams. Because the IRS needs to check to see if you bought that wood with unreported income, you Obamacare subsidy fraudsters! And if you didn’t buy it, you probably stole it from one of King Obama’s royal forests, peasant!

    More importantly, thou shalt not live off the grid. Thou shalt be forced into the collective. Now, fill out the race and sexual history questionnaires for the database, prole.

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/7/2014 @ 11:56 am

  30. I can hardly wait for the EPA to issue emissions standards for those street corner trash-burning 55 gallon drums we’ll all have to gather around to try to stay warm.

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/7/2014 @ 11:59 am

  31. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-02-03/going-on-30-living-with-mom-and-dad.html

    The Obama administration is so considerate. If the kids were “job locked” they probably would have their own place.

    They’d miss out on those last few years with mom & dad, whose death Obama plans to accelerate with his health care reforms.

    And they wouldn’t get a long, last look at the house they won’t inherit. Because the state will be seizing it. To recoup the costs of the lousy care they provided mom & dad because they were forced onto Medicaid when they lost their jobs.

    Due to funemployment, that won’t happen.

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/7/2014 @ 12:03 pm

  32. Obamanomics. Keeping families together since 2009.

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/7/2014 @ 12:05 pm

  33. 30. A good one but I can’t laugh, it hurts too much.

    Comment by gary gulrud (e2cef3) — 2/7/2014 @ 12:05 pm

  34. Where’s MY HAPPYNESS, barcky?!? WTF!

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (e630d3) — 2/7/2014 @ 12:07 pm

  35. I’m sure Obama is pushing all these destructive policies for own good.

    I just wish he’d stop being so damned good to us.

    Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 2/7/2014 @ 12:10 pm

  36. Oh dang. So much for Monday’s Market:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-07/turkish-lira-dumps-after-sp-warns-cuts-turkish-outlook

    And the yen just leaked over the 102/USD line today. Bother.

    Comment by gary gulrud (e2cef3) — 2/7/2014 @ 12:26 pm

  37. So much for retail.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/dont-expect-2014-to-be-much-better-for-retail-sales-trade-group-warns/2014/02/06/09243656-8f6d-11e3-b46a-5a3d0d2130da_story.html

    After a weak holiday season and rough winter weather that kept shoppers away in January, retailers were dealt another dose of sobering news Thursday.

    The nation’s biggest retail group issued a modest growth forecast for sales in 2014, and warned of economic headwinds that could influence how shoppers spend their money this year.

    What money? Obama plans to free me from earning money.

    “Debt ceiling debates, increased health care costs, and regulatory concerns still pose risks for both consumers and retailers,” Matthew Shay, president of the National Retail Federation, said in a statement.

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/7/2014 @ 12:44 pm

  38. Steve57,

    In SF, the city sends around code enforcement guys (in a Prius, of course) to look for smoke coming out of chimneys on “bad air” days, even Christmas and New Years.

    Can you imagine some guy showing upon Christmas ordering you to douse your cozy fire? How long before they are armed?

    Comment by Patricia (be0117) — 2/7/2014 @ 12:52 pm

  39. 38. In SF, the city sends around code enforcement guys (in a Prius, of course) to look for smoke coming out of chimneys on “bad air” days, even Christmas and New Years.

    Yes, I know. And no doubt Hien Tran, the individual who set Kali’s diesel emissions standards despite lying about having a Phd from UC Davis, set the standards for what constitutes a bad air day.

    How long before they are armed?

    Comment by Patricia (be0117) — 2/7/2014 @ 12:52 pm

    I guess I should add the EPA/CARB SWAT team to the list of who’s likely to raid your home if you burn wood.

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/7/2014 @ 1:04 pm

  40. Once upon a time, not that long ago, wood burning was considered environment friendly as it was a renewable fuel. After all, every single bit of C02 that is released by burning wood is simply being returned to where it came from, to sustain growth of green plants.

    They really just want to control all they can, to enable selective enforcement against political enemies.

    What will we do when they decide to regulate urine output, which simply returns H2O to the environment from whence we once took it?

    Of course, if we keep having non-terrorist terrorist attacks on our infrastructure that are not reported, like electrical facilities in California, maybe the EPA will not be able to enforce their regs.

    Comment by MD in Philly (f9371b) — 2/7/2014 @ 1:47 pm

  41. Back to the original topic,
    if people work they don’t depend on the government to feed them.
    If people don’t depend on the government to feed them, they might not vote for the party that promises lots of free stuff.
    The Dems would love to have 51% of people in the US who vote dependent on them. It’s a feature, not a bug.
    One would hope such talk was sarcastic cynicism, but it is more of an honest and realistic assessment.

    Comment by MD in Philly (f9371b) — 2/7/2014 @ 1:52 pm

  42. Patricia–do they allow commercial wood burning ovens for specialty pizza, breads, meats, etc, in San Francisco restaurants?

    Comment by elissa (99f483) — 2/7/2014 @ 1:55 pm

  43. 41. …The Dems would love to have 51% of people in the US who vote dependent on them. It’s a feature, not a bug.
    One would hope such talk was sarcastic cynicism, but it is more of an honest and realistic assessment.

    Comment by MD in Philly (f9371b) — 2/7/2014 @ 1:52 pm

    Which of course makes Obama’s talk about his concern for the lack of upward mobility an obvious lie.

    The government will assign you to your economic class/caste. And any upward mobility you experience will necessarily be a gift from government in the form of a higher minimum wage. Or, for you doctors, the reimbursement rates for which you’re going to have to petition the government.

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/7/2014 @ 2:11 pm

  44. Ever sice the post-Chicago ’68 stealth CPUSA takeover of the Democrat Party their goal has been to destroy the middle class and to foment a fiscal and economic scenario of a shrinking workforce and greater dependency upon the government, and thus more power for the “Mommy Party.”

    Well, sure enough, that’s the level to which we’ve sunk. And keep in mind Obamacare hasn’t entirely kicked into gear. The worst by far is yet to come.

    Elections, laws, regulations and policies all have very severe consequences. And politics shouldn’t be about coffee klatches, sewing circles or debate societies.

    Comment by Lawrence Westlake (4fc30a) — 2/7/2014 @ 2:14 pm

  45. Obama really is fascist. And I’m not using the term as a pejorative. Obama is adopting the program more fully than FDR ever did.

    http://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/history/item/14112-the-rise-of-the-administrative-state

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/7/2014 @ 2:16 pm

  46. The worst by far is yet to come.

    Word.

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/7/2014 @ 2:18 pm

  47. as we get closer to the 2014 mid-terms, it would come as no surprise to this unhappy camper to see super furchtlos erhaben Führer Obama start to pound theh podium and rise repeatedly on his toes at what he deems critical juncture in his rede, die von Gott selbst geschrieben wurde.

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (e630d3) — 2/7/2014 @ 2:41 pm

  48. “Which of course makes Obama’s talk about his concern for the lack of upward mobility an obvious lie.”

    Steve57 – Dude, what is the “upward mobility” of which you speak?

    While contrary to leftist myth and propaganda, I believe it has not been diminished during the Reign of Emperor Barcky I, he has certainly created a goodly amount of downward mobility which the Democrat Media Industrial Complex strangely rarely mentions.

    Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 2/7/2014 @ 2:42 pm

  49. Elections, laws, regulations and policies all have very severe consequences. And politics shouldn’t be about coffee klatches, sewing circles or debate societies.

    You forgot voting, and not voting.

    Comment by JD (0c90de) — 2/7/2014 @ 3:03 pm

  50. I was speaking of President Prom Queen’s feigned concern for the lack of upward mobility. Both parts of what he’s been talking about are a lie. First, that there is no more upward mobility. And that he thinks that’s a bad thing and that he needs to do something about it.

    The dismaying thing is that he plans to pivot to upward mobility. Whatever he pivots to, he destroys. And King Putt has already put in a lot of roadblocks to upward mobility.

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/7/2014 @ 3:05 pm

  51. Trained barking seals are the worst;

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-drennen/2014/02/07/andrea-mitchell-applauds-rfk-jrs-impassioned-plea-obama-stop-keystone-

    she doesn’t even need the fish.

    Comment by narciso (3fec35) — 2/7/2014 @ 3:23 pm

  52. I she in his diary? How many stars?

    Comment by nk (dbc370) — 2/7/2014 @ 3:26 pm

  53. *Is she*

    Comment by nk (dbc370) — 2/7/2014 @ 3:27 pm

  54. I think the upward mobility is still pretty robust for those who live and work in the District of Columbia and the adjoining counties of Virginia and Maryland.

    Comment by elissa (99f483) — 2/7/2014 @ 3:32 pm

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    this weblog is genuinely remarkable.

    Comment by Liliana (6c4f2f) — 2/7/2014 @ 3:38 pm

  56. Is all good, my precious Liliana. Also pass along the thanks to moose and squirrel.

    Comment by Liliana's Papa (e630d3) — 2/7/2014 @ 3:46 pm

  57. “labor force participation rate” to “job locked rate.”

    Wage slave rate.

    Comment by Kevin M (536c5d) — 2/7/2014 @ 3:49 pm

  58. Ten second campaign commercial:

    We warned it would be like this. Don’t say we didn’t. This time, vote Republican. For real change.

    Comment by Kevin M (536c5d) — 2/7/2014 @ 3:52 pm

  59. Haiku tries to take
    tax deduction for “daughter”
    fake Lilliana

    Comment by elissa (99f483) — 2/7/2014 @ 3:54 pm

  60. D’OH!

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (e630d3) — 2/7/2014 @ 4:01 pm

  61. I wish I could write cowboy poetry,
    But the only rhyme I have is, “Horseapple [tree]“!
    Now that I don’t have joblock, at last I am free,
    To search for and find rhymes for cowboy poetry.

    Comment by nk (dbc370) — 2/7/2014 @ 4:19 pm

  62. Whatever he pivots to, he destroys

    Would that he would pivot to helping Democrat Senators get re-elected. Call it the Obama Cares Tour.

    Comment by Kevin M (536c5d) — 2/7/2014 @ 5:41 pm

  63. Of course, they have focused on the main target;

    http://dailycaller.com/2014/02/07/moderate-republicans-team-up-with-labor-unions-to-defeat-the-tea-party-in-2014/

    Comment by narciso (3fec35) — 2/7/2014 @ 5:46 pm

  64. home home on teh range
    where deers and antelopes play
    where seldom is heard

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (e630d3) — 2/7/2014 @ 5:46 pm

  65. discouraging word
    or my Tikka T3 Lite
    ha ha ha ha HA!

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (e630d3) — 2/7/2014 @ 5:50 pm

  66. narcisco–

    That’s “former congressman Steve LaTourette” and not much else. Reminds me of the coffee party. Remember, to the press “moderate Republican” is center-left. Nearly over to “moderate Democrats” like Henry Waxman.

    Comment by Kevin M (536c5d) — 2/7/2014 @ 5:53 pm

  67. What fails in winter,
    He pivots towards each spring.
    Recovery Summer!

    Comment by Kevin M (536c5d) — 2/7/2014 @ 5:55 pm

  68. why the heck not;

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2014/02/07/273150753/house-republicans-may-get-to-immigration-just-not-now?ft=1&f=1001

    Comment by narciso (3fec35) — 2/7/2014 @ 6:09 pm

  69. http://articles.philly.com/2014-02-06/news/47093655_1_sick-leave-paid-leave-city-employees

    Comment by mg (31009b) — 2/7/2014 @ 6:10 pm

  70. There once was a cowboy named Hussein,
    Who did not know a cinch from a rein.
    He tried to saddle a steer,
    But wound up with a horn in his rear;
    Which caused him considerable pain.

    Comment by nk (dbc370) — 2/7/2014 @ 6:12 pm

  71. it’s bad and it will get much worse…

    http://youtu.be/MBvERGLPni4

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (45d3e0) — 2/7/2014 @ 6:17 pm

  72. Stay stupid out there!!
    http://moonbattery.com/

    Comment by mg (31009b) — 2/7/2014 @ 6:23 pm

  73. fool for colonics
    mamjama supahsonic
    fly m00nbat fly

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (45d3e0) — 2/7/2014 @ 6:24 pm

  74. you load sixteen tons
    whaddya get one day older
    deeper in doodoo

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (45d3e0) — 2/7/2014 @ 6:28 pm

  75. these leftwing m00nbats
    keep ‘em stoned and sedated
    just hide teh Mars Bars

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (45d3e0) — 2/7/2014 @ 6:33 pm

  76. oh, America
    you complain and criticize
    you voted f00l in!

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (45d3e0) — 2/7/2014 @ 6:36 pm

  77. He used to live in a room full of mirrors
    all He could see was He
    so He never grew up, never grew up, never grew up
    not He

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (45d3e0) — 2/7/2014 @ 6:37 pm

  78. who ordered teh mushroom pizza?!?!

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (45d3e0) — 2/7/2014 @ 6:38 pm

  79. ran teh table… my work here are dun!

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (45d3e0) — 2/7/2014 @ 6:39 pm

  80. It’s like that season of Dallas;

    http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2014/02/07/surprise-another-nj-democrat-suddenly-remembers-something-changes-story-about-christie/

    Comment by narciso (3fec35) — 2/7/2014 @ 7:00 pm

  81. Missing the point of the question;

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2014/02/05/cboghazi_journalists_have_no_idea_what_will_matter_in_an_election.html

    Comment by narciso (3fec35) — 2/7/2014 @ 7:09 pm

  82. The whole idea is to present some mother of 5 who can now quit her $9HR job and go out into the workforce armed with healthcare and climb the ladder into the middle class.
    Trust me, they will find the one person on all the earth for which this has been made true

    Comment by steveg (794291) — 2/7/2014 @ 7:25 pm

  83. Baked Choombaracka:

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/02/winter-olympics-viewers-say-obama-looked-stoned/

    I am so proud.

    Comment by gary gulrud (e2cef3) — 2/7/2014 @ 7:30 pm

  84. Costas you tool you
    Vlad teh Peacemaker nice ring
    Comcast Commie prick

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (5a1611) — 2/7/2014 @ 7:32 pm

  85. Acapulco Gold
    or Panamanian Red
    teh bigger teh bong bed
    teh higher teh head

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (5a1611) — 2/7/2014 @ 7:35 pm

  86. It is my fervent prayer that teh KGB – or whatever they’re called now – crawl big time up Matt Lauer’s ass.

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (5a1611) — 2/7/2014 @ 7:42 pm

  87. Just on general principles…

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (5a1611) — 2/7/2014 @ 7:42 pm

  88. 65. …or my Tikka T3 Lite
    ha ha ha ha HA!

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (e630d3) — 2/7/2014 @ 5:50 pm

    What caliber?

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/7/2014 @ 7:42 pm

  89. gary, that picture is incredible, if not photoshopped, but apparently not.
    Looked a little like me after being up 36+ hours straight, at least as far as the eyes go.

    Comment by MD in Philly (f9371b) — 2/7/2014 @ 8:03 pm

  90. Comment by steveg (794291) — 2/7/2014 @ 7:25 pm

    The latest narrative is that the mom has healthcare from the gov, so she doesn’t have to work just to have health insurance, but can stay home and sing to her young children.

    Comment by MD in Philly (f9371b) — 2/7/2014 @ 8:06 pm

  91. Is there a link to the interview anywhere that somebody can post? I didn’t see one. Has nbc had to deepsix it already after all the twitter convo about it and how O looked stoned?

    Comment by elissa (99f483) — 2/7/2014 @ 8:17 pm

  92. I watched the interview out here on the west coast and the man did look medicated. Not good.

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (c6e7c0) — 2/7/2014 @ 8:53 pm

  93. 91. At NBCOlympics.com, gonna go find it myself.

    Comment by gary gulrud (e2cef3) — 2/7/2014 @ 8:53 pm

  94. 30-06

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (c6e7c0) — 2/7/2014 @ 8:55 pm

  95. Well no Doritos or ‘Tato chips or Buttered Popcorn so I dunno.

    Comment by gary gulrud (e2cef3) — 2/7/2014 @ 8:59 pm

  96. Of course it is NBC so they could have deep-sixed all the takes with giggling.

    Comment by gary gulrud (e2cef3) — 2/7/2014 @ 9:04 pm

  97. http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/bob-costas-one-one-president-barack-obama

    Just watched Preezy Choom Gang at this link.

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/7/2014 @ 9:05 pm

  98. Wise choice, Colonello. Very flexible round, and you can get ammo anywhere they sell it. Even Africa.

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/7/2014 @ 9:15 pm

  99. I am so proud of this country, we are just so damned cool. We got this affirmative action token minority Presidente who parties like a bath-salted maniac and we’re all down with it.

    Comment by gary gulrud (e2cef3) — 2/7/2014 @ 9:15 pm

  100. Remember, to the press “moderate Republican” is center-left. Nearly over to “moderate Democrats” like Henry Waxman.

    Well, look at how our own Sammy F has claimed that Obama isn’t an innate, intrinsic leftist.

    BTW, I turn to the genius voters of France who, even though their country has been thrashed by socialist/liberal economic policies for years and years — even under their former nominative right-leaning president (Nicolas Sarkozy) — decided to go for broke in 2012 by electing an avowed ultra-liberal (François Hollande) to their presidency. And the rest is history. Or call France a European version of American places like the city of Detroit.

    I cite that as an example of just how knuckleheaded the people of a nation can be, and I’m not confident that we Yankees are now any less mentally challenged than our counterparts in France are—even more so when a large percentage of people in the US still blame George W Bush — even today — for ongoing economic problems instead of the goofus-doofus currently occupying the White House.

    Comment by Mark (f0ef14) — 2/7/2014 @ 9:24 pm

  101. The free wedding planner iphone apps are used to getting the important things of the wedding plnning.it prviding informtion are makes a cheap and best wedding.

    Comment by levijohn (2d406b) — 2/7/2014 @ 9:38 pm

  102. Well, gary, this country was once something to be proud of and it could maybe be again. Via CDR Salamander:

    http://cdrsalamander.blogspot.com/2014/02/fullbore-friday.html

    Who is up for a little USCG FbF? Something about a Coastie who commanded a Navy reconnaissance party that captured 750 German soldiers and freed 52 U.S. paratroopers in Cherbourg?

    With links to LCDR Walsh’s D-Day recollections and Navy Cross citation.

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/7/2014 @ 9:40 pm

  103. it might could maybe be again

    but I’m not betting any of my sweet sweet whorenanke dollars on it

    Comment by happyfeet (8ce051) — 2/7/2014 @ 10:09 pm

  104. Why not, Mr. Feets? Those sweet sweet whorenanke dollars are worth their weight in gravel.

    One more D-Day Story. When most people think of Pointe Du Hoc they think of the Army Rangers. And they’re right. But when the Army Rangers think of Pointe Du Hoc, they also think of the US Navy. From the Second Ranger Battalion Memorial Page:

    http://darbysrangers.tripod.com/id110.htm

    On June 5th; purely by chance the German Army moved elements of the 352′nd Division to the Pointe Du Hoc cliff area of Omaha Beach. At the time of the assault by the 2′nd Ranger Battalion the German troops were undergoing training in defensive maneuvers and every gun position was fully manned.

    The Rangers met a heavily armed garrison of troops instead of a lightly held defensive force. The darkness before the dawning on the 6th was rent by constant bombardment from the air and Naval support from the sea; Battleships, Cruisers, and Destroyers laid to. Among the throng of ships plowing the channel was the Destroyer USS Satterlee (Gleaves Class) which would play a major roll in the Ranger assault at Pointe du Hoc.

    Held down by the heavy bombardment; the majority of the Germans could not meet the Ranger force as it prepared for landing; but as the landing approached; specially designed DUKW’s with English Fire-ladders were hung up just off shore, supporting Amphibious DD-Tanks floundered and sank; and the first attempts at launching mortar fired grappling hooks failed due to water soaked ropes. This cost precious time.

    The German’s reeled but seemed to recover and rained down a heavy fire of machine guns and potato-masher grenades on the troops. The Rangers faced a dim future at best.

    Lt. Col James E. Rudder C.O. of the Provisional Ranger Force called on assistance from the Satterlee. The Satterlee drew just over 17 feet of water; and coming as close as possible to the action; the Commanding officer placed the Destroyer in harms way short of 1/2 mile from shore…running back and forth parallel to the shore-line and laying down decisive gunfire in support of the Rangers; the 274 man Destroyer gave impressive performance.

    The Satterlee defied every rule of safe naval operation during this combat to support the 2nd. Ranger Battlion and the mission.

    The Destroyer laid in volley after volley and turned and made more parallel passes until Rudder spoke into his radio again; “Very Nice Shooting!…Don’t Go Away.” The precious time and lives saved by the valiant crew and Commander of DD-626 Satterlee contributed significantly to the success of the vital Pointe du Hoc Assault; D-Day 6 June 1944.

    The skipper of the Satterlee said he’d run the ship aground if that was what it was going to take to support the Rangers. As was the case in the Pacific, the destroyers were in close enough to basically be part of the landing force. A Sailor on deck could be taken out by a sniper just like a Soldier on the beach.

    http://www.history.navy.mil/library/online/destroyersatnormandy.htm

    0715: “The fortifications at Pointe du Hoe [sic] had been under heavy fire … to H minus 05 minutes. However this fire had been lifted according to schedule and when the Rangers landed fortyfive [sic] minutes later the Germans had filtered back into the fortifications and were waiting for them with machine guns, mortars, rifles and hand grenades. … As the Rangers landed they found themselves pinned under the cliffs and were being rapidly cut to pieces. … I immediately ordered SATTERLEE to close the point and take the cliff tops under … fire. … Her fire control was excellent and the Rangers were enabled to establish a foothold on the cliff top. [Satterlee established communications with the Ranger shore fire control party at 0728.] As their Shore Fire Control Party advanced inland the remainder of the Rangers established communication with SATTERLEE by light and were thus enabled to rapidly call for close support fire. By this means SATTERLEE and later THOMPSON and HARDING were able to repel several enemy counter-attacks which otherwise would have wiped out this Ranger Battalion. … The gallant fight of … our Rangers against tremendous odds and difficulties was an inspiration to all naval personnel fortunate enough to witness this phase of the battle. The Rangers were magnificent.” (COMDESDIV 36 action report)

    We never do things like that together anymore, Mr. feets. We build stupid websites that never work instead.

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/7/2014 @ 10:36 pm

  105. Ok, one more D-Day link:

    http://spitfiresite.com/2010/04/spitfires-of-the-us-navy.html

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/7/2014 @ 10:39 pm

  106. * Pointe du Hoe [sic]*

    You can tell a Sailor wrote this.

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/7/2014 @ 10:51 pm

  107. O/T, I have don’t think this looks like much.

    http://screen.yahoo.com/inspiration/ghostly-figure-photo-sign-god-071700439.html

    Ghostly Figure In Photo A Sign From God? Pastor Thinks So

    All I know is, if I were a member of NEA and a teacher, if I thought it looked like a gun I could get the cops to charge your kid with a felony if I hallucinated it looked like a gun.

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/7/2014 @ 11:00 pm

  108. If I saw it on the kid’s cell phone, that is.

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/7/2014 @ 11:10 pm

  109. http://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2014/02/07/jobs-come-from-executive-orders-why-didnt-you-say-so/

    Comment by mg (31009b) — 2/8/2014 @ 2:03 am

  110. Now they blame the weather…http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/jobs-report-spin-and-fear_778850.html

    Comment by mg (31009b) — 2/8/2014 @ 4:21 am

  111. Comment by elissa (99f483) — 2/7/2014 @ 1:55 pm

    Don’t know what the current state of the law is regarding cooking commercially with wood (left the industry 30-yrs back) but at one time the Air Quality Management District in SoCal wanted steakhouses to put scrubbers on their exhausts to minimize the broiler emissions.
    I believe that current ARB rules prohibit new rural houses from having wood-burning stoves or fireplaces due to “wildfire” hazard.
    Aspen, and other “tony” areas in the Front Range of CO, prohibit wood stoves and fireplaces to prevent the “sooting” of the countryside during the winter.

    Wall Street liked the job report (market up) as it signaled to them that the Fed will be forced to continue QE at the current rate.
    Moh EZ Money!

    Comment by askeptic (2bb434) — 2/8/2014 @ 4:34 am

  112. It’s all insane, with glimpses of sanity;

    http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304680904579367143880532248

    Comment by narciso (3fec35) — 2/8/2014 @ 6:12 am

  113. sort of an illustration of Tim Blair’s law;

    http://theothermccain.com/2014/02/08/the-renegade-jesse-myerson/

    Comment by narciso (3fec35) — 2/8/2014 @ 6:21 am

  114. Here you go, Steve:

    Captain: Sgt. Miller!
    Miller: Yes, sir!
    Captain: I didn’t see you at camouflage training, yesterday.
    Miller: Thank you, sir!

    Comment by nk (dbc370) — 2/8/2014 @ 6:32 am

  115. Thanks, nk.

    I’ll make sure to promote SARGEANT Miller to, what, LDO?

    For getting promoted to SGT while in the Navy. That’s a trick.

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/8/2014 @ 6:54 am

  116. 112-Ding.

    Comment by mg (31009b) — 2/8/2014 @ 6:57 am

  117. You know my motto. Any man who can make SGT in this man’s Navy is on the fast track to Sultan of the Fleet.

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/8/2014 @ 6:58 am

  118. That’s only a few ranks above Sky Marshall

    Comment by narciso (3fec35) — 2/8/2014 @ 7:05 am

  119. Who said “Navy”? And, even if it were aboard a ship, I heard there were sergeants in the Navy. I think they called them err … let me think … [scratches chin] hmm, yup … Marines! Sigh.

    Comment by nk (dbc370) — 2/8/2014 @ 7:07 am

  120. 114. …Captain: Sgt. Miller!
    Miller: Yes, sir!
    Captain: I didn’t see you at camouflage training, yesterday.
    Miller: Thank you, sir!

    Comment by nk (dbc370) — 2/8/2014 @ 6:32 am

    You do realize that one of the sore points of having to wear the new Navy Blue cammies is, you don’t want to blend in if you get blown overboard. Or, whatever. You want to stand out. And, the Navy gives the troops CAMOFLAGE!

    Not winning hearts and minds.

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/8/2014 @ 7:08 am

  121. I brought up the Navy’s Vera Bradley designed uniforms here, a long time ago, Steve.

    Comment by nk (dbc370) — 2/8/2014 @ 7:11 am

  122. I hope I didn’t hurt anybody’s feelings. Just saying, if the troops were to pick a cammie pattern for wear in the middle of the ocean, it would probably be florescent orange.

    And with flares. Lots of flares.

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/8/2014 @ 7:12 am

  123. nk, I’m not criticizing you.

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/8/2014 @ 7:16 am

  124. They’re very striking at the Jewel. Of course, they look a lot better on a fit twenty-year old than they would on me. But still prettier than the Army’s all-terrain. But not as impressive as well-fitting Class A ASUs.

    Comment by nk (dbc370) — 2/8/2014 @ 7:17 am

  125. I was just taking the opportunity to note I didn’t stab myself with a fork. Given the fact the Navy gave me ample motivation.

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/8/2014 @ 7:19 am

  126. I was in ROTC. In 1971 et seq. The ODs we wore were ugly with a capital DRAB.

    Comment by nk (dbc370) — 2/8/2014 @ 7:22 am

  127. We called them “Poopy Suits.”

    And, yeah, we wore them.

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/8/2014 @ 7:27 am

  128. Not like we had a choice. It was our introduction to the fact nobody loved us anyway.

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/8/2014 @ 7:29 am

  129. Yes, life is not even close to being fair;

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/02/dems_declare_war_on_inspector_general_uncovering_irs_scandal.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=facebook

    Comment by narciso (3fec35) — 2/8/2014 @ 7:33 am

  130. we’re all gonna be
    A lump of dirt in the ground
    we’re all gonna be

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (c6e7c0) — 2/8/2014 @ 7:33 am

  131. They used to let the girls swear skirts. Now, the poor things, with fitted shoulders and waists on their jackets and female proportions in the seat of the trousers, look like HumVees pulling away.

    Comment by nk (dbc370) — 2/8/2014 @ 7:35 am

  132. I used to work in Chicago
    in a department store
    I used to work in Chicago
    I did but I don’t anymore
    A woman came in for a housedress
    I asked her what kind she wore
    “jumper” she said
    Jump her I did
    and I don’ work at there anymore

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (c6e7c0) — 2/8/2014 @ 7:42 am

  133. My old neighbor was a flyer during the WWII. I still remember him telling my young sons about the poopy suits they wore. That and how he used to sit out in his garage with the door open listening to the Oakland As games with a beer in the Summer. A great old friend.

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (c6e7c0) — 2/8/2014 @ 7:47 am

  134. Nothing to see here, move along;

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_IRAN_US_NAVY?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-02-08-10-14-18

    Comment by narciso (3fec35) — 2/8/2014 @ 8:00 am

  135. The following is fascinating to me because — based on my own reaction, no less — standards have gotten so dumbed down and our culture has grown so desensitized that I find myself snickering at the situation (and treating it as a ha-ha joke) more than I would have in the past, and am far less appalled than I should be. I’m guessing the gut reaction of liberals and “centrists” would be even more muted. But merely another sign that we in America are well on the way to becoming a banana republic.

    americanthinker.com, February 8: Last night, President Obama explained to Bob Costas of NBC Sports why he wasn’t attending the Sochi Olympics, but the substance of what he had to say was lost in the controversy that erupted on Twitter over whether or not he was stoned.

    Yahoo writer Mike Oz took the high road, as would nearly any journalist, and described the president as looking “sleepy.” But in the Twitterverse, many people outright speculated that he was stoned on marijuana, a drug that he is well known to have indulged in to excess in his younger years (at least so far as we know).

    Twitchy has collected a bunch of comments and pictures taken from TV screens that are far more suspicious than what appears in more mainstream outlets. Luke Manning wrote: “Obama is stoned” accompanied by this picture. Mischa Johnsons, aka Mouse, agreed and provided this snaphot.

    The one conclusion that we can arrive at is that President Obama has so diminished the image of the presidency that this sort of speculation on drug usage in office is now par for the course.

    Bill Clinton (and “the meaning of is is” and “I did not have sex with…”) got the bandwagon rolling back in the 1990s and Obama has it now careening down the road.

    Comment by Mark (f0ef14) — 2/8/2014 @ 9:04 am

  136. Benadryl for a runny nose can make you sleepy and look it. And look up all the other perfectly legitimate medicines, prescription and OTC, that do the same. Nobody respects Obama less than I do, but Jayzus! This kind of stuff falls in the category of “Evil be to him who evil thinks”.

    Comment by nk (dbc370) — 2/8/2014 @ 9:24 am

  137. I was going to say that technically “poopy suit” means the kind of cold weather survival s*** you wear over your flight suit. Like rubber longjohns.

    Then I said, “screw it.”

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/8/2014 @ 9:32 am

  138. Why be technical?

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/8/2014 @ 9:32 am

  139. I think the Preezy looked “medicated”… could’ve been sleepy, just tired from another round of golf and day of telling a litany of bald-faced lies to the American people.

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (9a60c9) — 2/8/2014 @ 9:38 am

  140. I think the Preezy looked “medicated”…

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (9a60c9) — 2/8/2014 @ 9:38 am

    Colorado Gold shipment sampled heavily by him it was!

    Comment by Yoda (557254) — 2/8/2014 @ 9:59 am

  141. OT, but connected as it is common to the theme of the fall of Western Civilization via lawfare,
    something by Steyn:
    http://www.steynonline.com/6079/yes-we-can-say-that

    Which reminds me, I assume Michael Mann has legal help in doing his lawsuit intimidation,
    can we find out who it is and shame them, get Popehat and others on it??

    OTOT update: Only 136,000+ still without power since Wednesday.

    Comment by MD in Philly (f9371b) — 2/8/2014 @ 10:04 am

  142. Was he in Colorado when the interview occurred?

    Comment by MD in Philly (f9371b) — 2/8/2014 @ 10:06 am

  143. I was going to say that technically “poopy suit” means the kind of cold weather survival s*** you wear over your flight suit. Like rubber longjohns.

    Then I said, “screw it.”

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09)

    The way my neighbor told it, they were worn for the long bombing runs they had to fly in the South Pacific and when they returned back to base, they shed teh suits and got all teh poopy hosed off of their bodies.

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (9a60c9) — 2/8/2014 @ 10:49 am

  144. Since the olympics are in Russia, just a bit south of here;

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2535139/Legs-elevenski-Siberian-lawyer-18-wins-Russias-Miss-Longest-Legs-competition-106cm-pins.html

    Comment by narciso (3fec35) — 2/8/2014 @ 10:56 am

  145. let’s wake this Saturday afternoon UP!

    http://youtu.be/bvbXMyGh8X8

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (9a60c9) — 2/8/2014 @ 12:28 pm

  146. http://youtu.be/JzrDs_Vaho4

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (9a60c9) — 2/8/2014 @ 12:35 pm

  147. Does anyone remember Steven Siegel “Steven Clean”, one of the disc jockeys at KMET in L.A. was back in ’73 thru ’76 timeframe? That guy was pure comic genius on the radio…

    http://youtu.be/Nht4T7tgy0o

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (9a60c9) — 2/8/2014 @ 12:41 pm

  148. Comment by narciso (3fec35) — 2/8/2014 @ 8:00 am

    Hope they avoid the Bermuda Triangle.

    Comment by askeptic (2bb434) — 2/8/2014 @ 1:23 pm

  149. 143. …The way my neighbor told it, they were worn for the long bombing runs they had to fly in the South Pacific and when they returned back to base, they shed teh suits and got all teh poopy hosed off of their bodies.

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (9a60c9) — 2/8/2014 @ 10:49 am

    The South Pacific gets pretty cold, too. There was a legend that sometimes downed aviators plucked from the water by locals would regain consciousness to find themselves between two women, all three of them naked, as a treatment for hypothermia.

    Those were the lucky ones. For the rest of us, poopy suits.

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/8/2014 @ 3:35 pm

  150. lol… he also told me about the lines of sailors waiting to be “serviced” on the beaches… not a pretty picture.

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (9a60c9) — 2/8/2014 @ 4:19 pm

  151. 141. OT, but connected as it is common to the theme of the fall of Western Civilization via lawfare,
    something by Steyn:
    http://www.steynonline.com/6079/yes-we-can-say-that

    Which reminds me, I assume Michael Mann has legal help in doing his lawsuit intimidation,
    can we find out who it is and shame them, get Popehat and others on it??

    OTOT update: Only 136,000+ still without power since Wednesday.

    Comment by MD in Philly (f9371b) — 2/8/2014 @ 10:04 am

    Not O/T at all, IMHO. Orwell had his protagonist in 1984 ponder the question, if the state declares that 2+2=5 does that become true if the majority believe it?

    Orwell, it seems, had a firm grasp of the leftist mind. How it could believe one thing one day, the opposite the next, and you’re a bigot, homophobe, science denier, whatever epithet if you don’t believe whatever it is spewing from one moment to the next with equal vigor.

    http://www.netcharles.com/orwell/essays/looking-back-on-the-spanish-war.htm

    Well, the same people who in 1933 sniggered pityingly if you said that in certain circumstances you would fight for your country, in 1937 were denouncing you as a Trotsky-Fascist if you suggested that the stories in NEW MASSES about freshly wounded men clamouring to get back into the fighting might be exaggerated. And the Left intelligentsia made their swing-over from ‘War is hell’ to ‘War is glorious’ not only with no sense of incongruity but almost without any intervening stage. Later the bulk of them were to make other transitions equally violent. There must be a quite large number of people, a sort of central core of the intelligentsia, who approved the ‘King and Country’ declaration in 1935, shouted for a’ firm line against Germany’ in 1937, supported the People’s Convention in 1940, and are demanding a Second Front now.

    More to the point at hand, I reckon:

    Nazi theory indeed specifically denies that such a thing as ‘the truth’ exists. There is, for instance, no such thing as ‘Science’. There is only ‘German Science’, ‘Jewish Science’, etc. The implied objective of this line of thought is a nightmare world in which the Leader, or some ruling clique, controls not only the future but THE PAST. If the Leader says of such and such an event, ‘It never happened’— well, it never happened. If he says that two and two are five — well, two and two are five. This prospect frightens me much more than bombs — and after our experiences of the last few years that is not a frivolous statement.

    Hence my opposition to gay marriage. Judge Vaughn Walker says marriage is not about children, and more importantly never was. I will not be a party to this lie.

    Piers Morgan is going through the wringer right now for not being sufficiently pliant on the issue of transgendered whatevers:

    http://www.latimes.com/local/abcarian/la-me-ra-transgender-20140206,0,1612052.story#axzz2smFX0k1X

    He committed the sin of saying that a someone who thinks they are a girl was born a boy. He is being inundated with tweets like “Just because you have a penis doesn’t mean you’re a woman.”

    Sorry, kids. If you have XY chromosomes, a penis, and testicles, you’re not a woman. You’re a man. Deal with it. You’re never getting ovarian cancer.

    Piers Morgan will of course fold. He can’t understand why they’re vilifying him. That’s easy; he’s a spineless twit who will assimilate. The low hanging fruit, as it were. The big lie that demands we all be part of or else the fundamental transformation envisioned by Barack Obama can not proceed will threaten us all. Eventually. Piers Morgan will be an enthusiastic convert, one of the faithful court eunuchs.

    The goal isn’t so much to think gay marriage is cool or that some guy is a woman if he thinks he’s a woman. The goal is for authority to be able to say 2+2=4 one day, five the next, and maybe 3 a week from tomorrow and nobody will dare contradict them. Reality is what your government tells you reality is. Obamacare is already working that way, according to Obama.

    Won’t it be wonderful when everything works that way?

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/8/2014 @ 4:25 pm

  152. If you’re holding a big-enough gun, only the very foolish will try to contradict you.

    Comment by askeptic (2bb434) — 2/8/2014 @ 4:35 pm

  153. Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/8/2014 @ 4:25 pm

    Judge Vaughn Walker says marriage is not about children, and more importantly never was.

    I think that’s correct. Marriage is about adultery, and, in some cases, bigamy.

    You cannot define these two things under the law without marriage.

    Marriage is not about children. That is a later rationalization, or secondary purpose.

    Comment by Sammy Finkelman (f2d620) — 2/8/2014 @ 4:36 pm

  154. Orwell predicted you, Sammy. It’s pretty freakin’ orwellian of you to separate bigamy and adultery from progeny, since bigamy and adultery only became issues when it came to who inherited what.

    Without the question of progeny, of heirs, adultery and bigamy wouldn’t be an issue.

    But if anybody could bend their mind to the problem, it’s you. And the thing is, I like you, Sammy. But I gotta be me and call ‘em like I see ‘em.

    In other news, Jay Leno is having his 30 liter tank-engined car blown and fuel injected at Gale Banks’ shop. Film at 11.

    So there is that.

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/8/2014 @ 4:56 pm

  155. 152. If you’re holding a big-enough gun, only the very foolish will try to contradict you.

    Comment by askeptic (2bb434) — 2/8/2014 @ 4:35 pm

    If you’re old enough to remember the Nixon administration, you’re old enough to remember Chuck Colson’s first law of politics.

    If you’ve got them by the juevos, their hearts and minds will follow.

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/8/2014 @ 5:04 pm

  156. Ok, I’m a kindly soul. And I knew some of u kidz couldn’t wait til 11.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAG0O5d0wHY

    Jay Leno’s tank car gets Banks turbos

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/8/2014 @ 5:11 pm

  157. 153. …I think that’s correct. Marriage is about adultery, and, in some cases, bigamy.

    You cannot define these two things under the law without marriage.

    Marriage is not about children. That is a later rationalization, or secondary purpose.

    Comment by Sammy Finkelman (f2d620) — 2/8/2014 @ 4:36 pm

    I didn’t mean to dismiss you or your argument. But the question is, why should I accept your premise when every single historical authority says you’re out of your mind? I realize you think marriage is not about children. And you can concoct a completely baseless theory that justifies that view.

    But, why am I obliged to believe that crap?

    This is precisely what Orwell was talking about. If someone with a claim to leadership says the past wasn’t the past, does that make it true?

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/8/2014 @ 5:22 pm

  158. The science is settled. Do not trust the contradictory evidence. In fact, do not acknowledge the contradictory evidence no matter how overwhelming even exists.

    Join the collective.

    You have entered the Obamazone.

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/8/2014 @ 5:29 pm

  159. 157. Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/8/2014 @ 5:22 pm

    why should I accept your premise when every single historical authority says you’re out of your mind?

    what historical authority. I know people are saying this now in the last decade, but that’s a legal argument.

    Adultery has basically been decriminalized – was decriminalized in the 19th century more or less – so this would not be a good current-day argument for preserving the institution of civil marriage and keeping it limited only to a man and a woman.

    But I think historically it was first and foremost about defining adultery and not supporting children.

    This is one reason it became common for women to show visible signs of marriage to a passing stranger.

    I realize you think marriage is not about children.

    I say that is not its first purpose.

    And you can concoct a completely baseless theory that justifies that view.

    But, why am I obliged to believe that crap?

    Wedding rings. That’s not about children. I believe support for women and children was a later addition.

    Although the roots of gifts to women at the time of marriage may be about support for a woman in the event of divorce or desertion. The only way women could be sure of possessing anything was to wear it. But there are special indications of marriage – special jewelry.

    Marriage does not actually require anything of significant value to be given to the woman, but common custom does require woman to do something visible every day to indicate they are married.

    Marriage is therefore, first about adultery, and only secondarily about support.

    Comment by Sammy Finkelman (f2d620) — 2/8/2014 @ 5:47 pm

  160. John Locke: the purpose of marriage is “the continuation of the species” and “this conjunction betwixt male and female ought to last, even after procreation, so long as is necessary to the nourishment and support of the young ones … who are to be sustained by those that got them, till they are able to shift and provide for themselves.”

    William Blackstone: marriage is “founded in nature, but modified by civil society: the one directing man to continue and multiply his species, the other prescribing the manner in which that natural impulse must be confined and regulated” and the parent-child relationship is “consequential to that of marriage, being its principal end and design: and it is by virtue of this relation that infants are protected, maintained, and educated.”

    Noah Webster: marriage “was instituted … for the purpose of preventing the promiscuous intercourse of the sexes, for promoting domestic felicity, and for securing the maintenance and education of children.”

    Joel Prentiss Bishop: “The husband is under obligation to support his wife; so is he to support his children. The obligation in neither case is one of contract, but of law. The relation of parent and child equally with that of husband and wife, from which the former relation proceeds, is a civil status.”

    Bertrand Russell: “But for children, there would be no need for any institution concerned with sex…. [For] it is through children alone that sexual relations become of importance to society.”

    Bronislaw Malinowski: “[T]he institution of marriage is primarily determined by the needs of the offspring, by the dependence of the children upon their parents ….”

    G. Robina Quale: “Through marriage, children can be assured of being born to both a man and a woman who will care for them as they mature.”

    James Q. Wilson: “Marriage is a socially arranged solution for the problem of getting people to stay together and care for children that the mere desire for children, and the sex that makes children possible, does not solve.”

    W. Bradford Wilcox: “As a virtually universal human idea, marriage is about regulating the reproduction of children, families, and society.”

    So you’re admitting, Sammy, that you have no knowledge of history? That your uninformed opinion is the only thing that guides you?

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/8/2014 @ 6:03 pm

  161. I’m actually not trying to hijack the thread. The central issue is, it seems to me, are our minds made of play dough?

    Can they be molded into any shape our masters wish? Barack Obama seems to think so. This particular thread is about the jobs report. And of course putting people out of work would be bad if we had a Republican Preezy. But it’s GREAT if we have Obama as Preezy. Easy Breezy. Cuz now they can snowboard or smoke pot instead of work.

    Heating their homes or even having homes will become an issue should the Republicans take the WH.

    Then, putting people out of work will be a bad thing again.

    Call me crazy. I’m sure many of you do.

    So, anyhoo, Sammy has stewed up the idea that marriage is about bigamy and adultery…

    …becuz bigamy and adultery are bad cuz Sammy thinks so for no reason.

    Certainly bigamy and adultery have no connection to kids, despite the court cases proving otherwise.

    Therefore, TRUE!

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/8/2014 @ 6:15 pm

  162. the theme with some digressions like the gal from Siberia, is objective reality is troublesome, (Krugman, Hilzik, Dionne, et al) will do the ‘argument clinic’ routine, the same for longstanding institutions like marriage, which have a very particular function in our culture,

    Comment by narciso (3fec35) — 2/8/2014 @ 6:35 pm

  163. They are trying the same tricks South of the Border

    http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304450904579369241634828598?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702304450904579369241634828598.html

    Comment by narciso (3fec35) — 2/8/2014 @ 6:49 pm

  164. Stupid BS doesn’t merit refutation. When for example SCOAMF says the IRS Director had to visit the WH 140 times because he was intimately involved in the design and development of the 404Care software it’s enough to say its HORSESH*T!

    The apologists are wasting oxygen. Everyone knows we didn’t miss government one bit during the Slowdown.

    Il Douche does us no more good than Prince Charles benefits GB.

    Comment by gary gulrud (e2cef3) — 2/8/2014 @ 7:19 pm

  165. steer into the ice berg, it’s refreshing;

    http://www.lucianne.com/thread/?artnum=771626

    Comment by narciso (3fec35) — 2/8/2014 @ 8:10 pm

  166. better to drink straight from the original tap, narciso… but it’s harrd to say which is more unhinged: the commenter’s in the story, or the ones posting on the web page… (Full Bore Moonbat Warning)

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/they-quit-their-jobs-thanks-to-the-health-law/2014/02/08/7b10df46-901a-11e3-84e1-27626c5ef5fb_allComments.html

    Comment by redc1c4 (abd49e) — 2/9/2014 @ 1:07 am

  167. a summary;

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/02/demonomics.html

    Comment by narciso (3fec35) — 2/9/2014 @ 4:53 am

  168. 167. Clarice is a rare jewel, the literary snark and agility of Steyn, a polemic bulldog like young Williamson, and yet the stability and perspicuity of a Caroline Glick.

    There is no debate over the fact the jobs being evacuated are marginal positions held by noncompetitive employees. What prevents these positions from simply disappearing?

    Marxist subtards are at present left to spin helplessly news that promises only to become more grim.

    We are fast approaching a status quo in which we have minor constituencies represented in government.

    The GOP representing Big Business and Commerce Law, the Democrats representing the very rich and the very poor along with public employees.

    It is time for working Amerikkka to think for themselves or bug for the exits.

    Comment by gary gulrud (e2cef3) — 2/9/2014 @ 9:14 am

  169. 160. Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/8/2014 @ 6:03 pm

    So you’re admitting, Sammy, that you have no knowledge of history? That your uninformed opinion is the only thing that guides you?

    I have a great deal of knowledge of history.

    I recognized the first three names, John Locke,
    William Blackstone, and Noah Webster, and none of them go back any further than the late 17th century, and all seem to be in the English speaking world.

    I think it is obvious that they were talking theory, and not history, and the explanation for marriage are no more history than what is in the social contract.

    Secondly, I think they were really dealing with the question of why men and women should live together, and not so much with marriage.

    I think thjey lived in an age when adultery was so rare that it does not even come to mind – the alternative to marriage, in heir mind, is separation.

    Correction:

    Noah Webster, I see, even agrees with me:

    Marriage was instituted he says:

    1) For the purpose of preventing the promiscuous intercourse of the sexes,

    That is to define and avoid adultery

    2) for promoting domestic felicity,

    To avoid jealously.

    3) and for securing the maintenance and education of children.”

    And only third for supporting children.

    Comment by Sammy Finkelman (c08134) — 2/9/2014 @ 10:40 am

  170. Here’s one for you-

    Q: When does the media claim that the economy is not as good as advertised?
    A: When it is attacking an incumbent republican governor’s budget forecast in an election year.

    I heard on the local (“non-partisan”?) news station this am that governor Corbett’s good looking budget forecast was counting on a too optimistic look at the growth of the economy…

    Elsewhere:
    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2014/02/americas-latest-heroine-fights-back.php

    Is it possible to make a non-sexist calendar of the most courageous and patriotic women in America? No swim-suits or anything, just eyes blazing with conviction at the political bad men.

    I nominate her for attorney general in 2016, Lord willing.

    Comment by MD in Philly (f9371b) — 2/9/2014 @ 11:35 am

  171. el Prentiss Bishop: I see he lived March 10, 1814 – November 4, 1901. His first book about the laws of marriage and divorce was published in 1852. He wrote it mainly to enhance his own reputation as a knowledgeable practitioner. He later became virtually unknown.

    He speaks nothing about the purpose of marriage, but of one of the things that accreted to it. His point here is that the obligation to support a wife and the obligation to support children is not one of contract, and derives from their status.

    Betrand Russell was a philosopher, and he’s staking out a minority position here, arguing that it’s only because of children that sexual relations are important to society.

    Bronislaw Malinowski: (1884-1942) Founder of functionalist school of anthropology, he argued that “primitive” Pacific Islanders were not really that different from other people and their societies were very varied. And that some ideas common in his time were very wrong. I’m not sure what he’s saying here in your quote.

    G. Robina Quale: Shew qrote a book called “A History of Marriage Systems” (1975 or maybe 1988) and clearly here seems to be speakig of the after-effects of marriage. She held it regulates a lot of things.

    She writes about who marries whom and what it is, and when it continues, and when divorce happens and thought marriage was an alliance between families.

    She says the modern marriage system, in which partners select each other on the basis of personal compatibility, began in the commercial economy of 15th and 16th century Europe. She might be exaggerating its absence before because all her documents would omit it.

    James Q. Wilson is trying to give after the fact reasoning of the value of marriage.I don’t think he seriously means to say anyone planned things this way.

    Note this wouild not explain every marriage – just that the fact that marriage exists, and is common, causes other things to happen. Because of marriage people will stay together and care for children.

    W. Bradford Wilcox: Associate professor of sociology at the University of Virginia, and director of something called the National Marriage Project.

    He’s written a lot about marriage and divorce, parenthood, especially of fathers, religion and family life. He argues that marriage is an important social good, an important public good,
    (what’s the difference between these two – the second means it is worth it for the government to spend money on it?) and that the benefits of marriage extend to poor and minority communities.

    There’s nothing historical here.

    Comment by Sammy Finkelman (c08134) — 2/9/2014 @ 11:36 am

  172. It is time for working Amerikkka to think for themselves or bug for the exits.

    What’s disconcerting to me is that, on one hand, there’s the example of France, with all its leftist policymaking gone berserk, and now things getting worse than in the past, and, on the other hand, the example of Japan, which in spite of its fairly non-dogmatic (ie, comparatively non-leftist) approach to its “lost decade” (and now multi-decade recession) still is muddling or sleep walking its way through an indefinite lack of economic momentum.

    Whether a France or Japan, or, even more disturbingly, a Mexico or Venezuela, are a window into the US’s future remains open to debate.

    Comment by Mark (f0ef14) — 2/9/2014 @ 11:39 am

  173. “There’s nothing historical here.”

    Sammy – Only if you keep your eyes closed.

    Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 2/9/2014 @ 12:26 pm

  174. Sam the Sham need not see: he already knows everything.

    we’re just incapable of grokking his brilliance because racist.

    Comment by redc1c4 (abd49e) — 2/9/2014 @ 12:48 pm

  175. 171. “There’s nothing historical here.”

    That’s because marital law is pre-historical.

    Azz-pull Finkelman rambling free-association is not interesting and adds no value whatever to this forum.

    Why don’t you settle on an area or two that other people compliment you for and actually do some work?

    This shotgun approach to achieving self-esteem is really weird, in a bad way.

    Comment by gary gulrud (e2cef3) — 2/9/2014 @ 1:04 pm

  176. Here we have the Chamber of Commerce/WSJ vs. Middle America conflict of interests, a burgeoning culture war:

    http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2014/02/09/Laura-Ingraham-Battles-George-Will-on-Immigration-Reform

    The GOP can no more dispose of its Lights than a leopard its spots.

    There is no alternative to crushing Republicanism by whatever means necessary.

    Comment by gary gulrud (e2cef3) — 2/9/2014 @ 1:12 pm

  177. I would put it a slightly different way, gary, wets whether Tory oro GOP end up in the middle of the road,

    Comment by narciso (3fec35) — 2/9/2014 @ 1:42 pm

  178. Then again, they are rather resilient in their own way;

    http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2014/02/09/republicans-seek-access-to-mitt-romney-money-machine/

    Comment by narciso (3fec35) — 2/9/2014 @ 1:49 pm

  179. “There’s nothing historical here.”

    It’s philosophy.

    Comment by Sammy Finkelman (c08134) — 2/9/2014 @ 1:56 pm

  180. Fifty years ago Hammurapi was the ostensible source of the Mosaic covenant. Since that time Sargon the Great bequeathed the former all that he is famous for.

    In fact, Sargon followed the dawn of civilization by a few millennia.

    The only thing new about our culture is ignorance dawns new every day in every way.

    Comment by gary gulrud (e2cef3) — 2/9/2014 @ 2:20 pm

  181. Per their custom the Ministry of Truth avoids same:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-09/about-those-29-million-jobs-lost-january

    Anyone with gray matter between their ears knows a family holding down a half-dozen jobs is more resilient than a single riding on the governments mercies.

    Comment by gary gulrud (e2cef3) — 2/9/2014 @ 6:55 pm

  182. 179. “There’s nothing historical here.”

    It’s philosophy.

    Comment by Sammy Finkelman (c08134) — 2/9/2014 @ 1:56 pm

    Oh. That’s what it’s called.

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/10/2014 @ 11:32 pm

  183. The Ross Douthat piece struck me in in more than a couple of ways.First, it had the feel of the Star Trek: Next Generation episode when the crew defrosted a bunch of folks from the 21st century, only to inform them that the persuit of money had no value any more. I noticed that this theme was never again used in any Star Trek episode across all of the franchises.It must have raised more questions than could be answered, like .. why would anybody be a “serf” in such an enlightened age ? Who would want a dangerous task ? Why wouldn’t they all want to be Captain of a Star Fleet vessel ?

    On the conservative side, things are somewhat clearer. There are libertarians who like the basic income idea, but only as a substitute for the existing welfare state, not as a new expansion. Both “rugged individualist” right-wingers and more communitarian conservatives tend to see work as essential to dignity, mobility and social equality, and see its decline as something to be fiercely resisted.

    … this brings me to the second point, on the conservative side, things are somewhat clearer. Who would be able to survive a Zombie Apocalypse ?In the such an event, the Progressive bastions, the cities, who look like “World War Z.” None of them would survive.
    Lastly, Douthat thinks we live in a ‘post-scarcity society.’ Isn’t the whole underlying political point of AGW that oil is scare ? .. notice that in the AGW mindset of politicians, it isn’t that carbon is completely bad, it’s that fossil fuels aren’t renewable.’Post-scarcity society’ fits in the Obama-esque world that is also post-partisan and post-racial … these fit so well in the world with unicorns.Which world that is ? .. I have no idea.

    Comment by Neo (d1c681) — 2/11/2014 @ 1:47 am

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