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Why Do Lefties Want to Legalize Pot . . . But Ban Big Gulps?

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 12:31 pm

Seems a mite bit inconsistent, no? (Link goes to Hot Air in light of our Politico boycott):

The very same year, for example, that Colorado legalized marijuana, the Colorado Senate passed (without a single Republican vote) a ban on trans fats in schools. Are we to believe eating a glazed donut is more harmful than smoking a joint? California has already banned trans fats in restaurants statewide, but now is on the brink of legalizing marijuana statewide come November. Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg supported New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s effort to decriminalize marijuana in New York State, while at the same time supporting a ban on extra-large sodas. A 32-ounce Mountain Dew is bad for you, but pot isn’t?

The logic is dumbfounding. For many years, health-conscious liberals have waged a deafening, public war against cigarettes. Smoking bans in public places like restaurants and bars have been enacted in states all over the country. Recently, New York City, New Jersey and several other cities and states have extended those bans to include the newest tobacco fad—e-cigarettes. Yet, when it comes to smoking marijuana? Crickets.

Saying “marijuana is not as bad as portrayed” is a far cry from saying “marijuana does not have any adverse health effects.” The occasional Michael Phelps outlier aside, stoners don’t particularly have a great reputation for being in excellent health. They have more of a reputation for slouching on the couch with Munchos crumblets disappearing into the folds of their T-shirts.

I don’t have to agree with libertarians on everything, but at least they don’t want the government banning any of this stuff. Lefties, what’s your excuse?

90 Responses to “Why Do Lefties Want to Legalize Pot . . . But Ban Big Gulps?”

  1. Ding.

    Patterico (9c670f)

  2. Why do lefties insist you must provide a photo ID to purchase a gun—but not to vote ?

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  3. I’m fine with legalizing pot, but there is nothing sadder than a 20-something stoner who does nothing but sit around all day and get high. In my 20s I had a roommate who grew and smoked marijuana, but he held down a real white-collar job and truly could be considered a recreational user. Unfortunately, in the Boston pot scene of the 1990s he tended to attract a bunch of losers who hung around for nothing more than the chance to get high on his free weed. So since then I have always had contempt for full-time stoners.

    JVW (709bc7)

  4. Dope will get you thru times of no Big Gulps better than teh Big Gulps will get you thru times of no dope.

    Colonel Haiku (54c225)

  5. The Left wants this nation’s population to be sedated sheep, accepting of their situation.

    Colonel Haiku (54c225)

  6. Have you ever heard of a Big Gulp drinker eating a large bag of Doritos and a quart of Cherry Garcia ice cream in one sitting? I thought not.

    Besides the intoxicating blasts of stupefaction, chiba is the gateway drug to binge eating.

    Colonel Haiku (54c225)

  7. > In my 20s I had a roommate who grew and smoked marijuana, but he held down a real white-collar job and truly could be considered a recreational user

    This was me in my 20s (I never grew, but I certainly smoked a fair amount, and I worked at Borland at the time), and it’s to some degree me now that I’m 40 (I smoke about once a week).

    The fact that the people selling to me have to risk jail time to do it irks me to no end.

    aphrael (c1b1ea)

  8. So, in NY the government wants to control how much soda you drink, but smoking pot is OK, and if you are a right wing extremist who is actually pro-life or something they want you to leave.

    If everyone who stays in NY are people who want pot decriminalized while all of the far right wingers leave, what do you think will happen to their tax base?
    They will have to start invading other states to support themselves.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  9. You have to remember that pot legalization in CO was a voter initiative. Most of the Democrats in government here voted against it anytime it came up and that’s why we had to put it straight on the ballot to get it passed. I’d imagine they are furious that us peons went around them and their divine will.

    Brass (39cca6)

  10. Because they want pot and don’t want Big Gulps. Probably because of their innumerate perception that it’s the size of the Big Gulp cup that creates the calories, 8 eight ouncers having 0 calories, the sixty-four ouncer having 4 calories.

    htom (412a17)

  11. Big Government doesn’t like Big Gulps.
    Or whatever.

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  12. I would rather people drink the Big Gulps than drink the Kool-Aid.

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  13. Lefties, what’s your excuse?

    Two faced and phony-baloney as usual. They run on feelings and emotions — and tend to have the common sense of bratty kids — so don’t expect logic or consistency out of them on most occasions.

    Look at the stupid left-leaning biases on display back when the Occupy Wall Street crowd was camping out in places like lower Manhattan or out in front of LA’s city hall. An effort by such people to make big business the big boogey man while big government — which FORCES people to support it, to pay for its employees and services — was shrugged off. Certainly by all the liberal/Democrat politicians who loved playing enablers to the Occupy Wall Streeters.

    Mark (49bed7)

  14. Of course, the NY city government didn’t allow OWS to actually occupy *wall street*, instead forcing them off to zuccotti park.

    aphrael (c1b1ea)

  15. One thing is behavior that should be shamed … of which sleeping around and doing drugs are good examples. Shaming is a good thing.

    Another thing is making it a crime of which I am not too keen.

    One big thing however, if you want to be a druggie or a slut — it should be 100% illegal to bail them out with public money.

    Rodney King's Spirit (ca9e04)

  16. Marijuana is far more injurious to lungs than cigarette smoke. You need a college education to know what is good for you.

    MikeK (cd7278)

  17. Soft targets. McDonald’s, in public view, subject to inspection and licensing are easy to police. Jamal Hernandez and his nickel bags much harder.

    The fact that the people selling to me have to risk jail time to do it irks me to no end.

    It irks me, too, that the users escape. Users should subject to the same penalties as dealers. Clean out the Petri dish and the bacteria will have no place to grow. Fat chance, who are we kidding? Baby want cookie, mommy give baby cookie.

    nk (dbc370)

  18. How about if we just ban lefties, instead.
    Or whatever.

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  19. Marijuana is green, organic, natural.

    Big Gulps are made with HFCS.


    Steven Den Beste (99cfa1)

  20. I remember beginning to read the book “Blade Runner” back in the 1980s, but gave it up in the first chapter, it was really depressing, and I was going through a period of black depression, myself. Anyway, the book is set in the future. Mind altering drugs are not only legal, but handed out for free by the national government, and as a consequence,the people are staying high or stoned all the time. And this suits the government, because in their impaired state, the people were unaware of how wretched their lives actually were, made that way BY the national government. That was enough to turn me unalterably AGAINST legalizing drugs. Even more so, after I found out how bad things have gotten in European countries whose governments thought that legalizing drugs would solve problems. Doing so only resulted in much worse social problems. The Dutch government is trying to figure out how to put the genie of legal pot back into the bottle, now that growing numbers of CHILDREN are arriving at school high on pot. Pot use was SUPPOSED to be confined to pot cafes and other specific locations, and for adult use only, but it sure isn’t working out that way.
    And the government outlawing Big Gulps and other things we like to have or do that hurt NOBODY ELSE in any way is, I am convinced, their way of increasing their control over our lives more and more. That way,someday we won’t even whimper when totalitarianism is introduced, our will to resist the total wisdom of the powers that be has been completely eroded away.

    cindobindo (7a251d)

  21. Big Gulps are made with HFCS.

    Corn is natural and green also, but frankly if it was made out of ground glass and asphalt I’d take up eating it just because of Bloomberg’s condemnations.

    Why are you talking about big gulps when we have a more pressing matter in both time and location with the California legislature planning to ban plastic grocery bags?

    This doesn’t even qualify as nanny statism, because the ego driven directives of Bloomberg blinding stupidity at least could be argued to be in the interest of the public health.

    Banning shopping bags is just in your face “How can We, the California government, make life for the average citizen worse?”

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  22. The same sort of logic that is being used for marijuana legalization applies to the legalization of prostitution too, right? I mean, as long as the prostitute isn’t forced into the profession and as long as basic health standards are met, we can’t really outlaw it just because we find it distasteful, can we? I’m guessing I’ll live long enough to see the legalize prostitution movement. My inner libertarian finds this to be appropriate, though my inner social conservative finds it to be terrifying.

    JVW (709bc7)

  23. Comment by Elephant Stone (6a6f37) — 1/25/2014 @ 12:51 pm

    Not just a photo ID, but an independent Proof of Residence too.
    Here’s an idea, when you register to vote, instead of just issuing you a Registered Voter Card, they put your pix on it, and you have to present your RVC to receive a ballot?

    askeptic (2bb434)

  24. Comment by MD in Philly (f9371b) — 1/25/2014 @ 1:30 pm

    When they attack Philly, they can pay the Jersey Toll in tokes.

    askeptic (2bb434)

  25. Comment by Elephant Stone (6a6f37) — 1/25/2014 @ 1:42 pm

    Just think how much better off the rest of us would be if all the Progs did drink the “Kool-Aid”.

    askeptic (2bb434)

  26. I’m opposed to ID requirements, generally. I grew up here with the conservative concepts that there should be no national identification system. We used to compare it to the USSR’s internal passports. “I don’t need identification, I know who I am.” These are problems of our own creation. Motor voter. Mail-in ballots. Your local precinct captains, poll watchers, and judges should know who is who on that precinct voter list, and if the right person is getting the ballot. They used to.

    Anyway, given a choice between a government bar code tattooed on my wrist and not voting, I’ll pick not voting. At least not with a “ballot” (sneers evilly).

    nk (dbc370)

  27. JVW:

    My inner libertarian finds this to be appropriate, though my inner social conservative finds it to be terrifying.

    I feel the same conflict. I’d love to live in a libertarian society … until the moment it started to look like anarchy. My concern is that moment would come quickly and unexpectedly, and would be very hard to undo.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  28. Hopefully the cancer research on cannabinoids will pay dividends. They may be anti tumor agents.
    Although I doubt the left gives a crap about the possible medical advances.

    mg (31009b)

  29. cindobindo at #20.

    Sorry to be pedantic. The book was “Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?” One of the few sf books I’ve read that was done justice to by the movie (Blade Runner).

    JoeH (7b5d32)

  30. 20. Dead on target.

    29. If the Wiki on Dick’s book does it justice, the movie is more plausible.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  31. Read the book (“Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep”) Mr. Gary.

    Icy (b22f5c)

  32. Well there was some degree of a nuclear exchange in the tale, that’s why the animals had died out, hence the colloquoy at the beginning of the film,

    narciso (3fec35)

  33. Seriously? There was nothing plausible about the movie. Superhuman slaves put together from genetically engineered body parts with a built-in code that caused them to die within a short time. However, a complex psychological test was necessary to distinguish them from normal people, while at the same time genetically engineered snakes had their cells stamped with a serial number. So these four super beings come to Earth and wreak havoc and the only person assigned to hunt them down, in a society that has flying cars, speed of light space travel, space colonies, and can build humans from scratch, is a refugee from a Raymond Chandler story. Ok, then.

    nk (dbc370)

  34. nk, it is fiction, with a semi-scientific bend, but still fiction.

    askeptic (2bb434)

  35. Oh, I liked the movie. James Edward Olmos was great. That’s when I started making origamis and leaving them everywhere I went. And if you had told me I’d think it sexy to have the legs of someone named Daryl wrapped around my neck ….

    nk (dbc370)

  36. Not to mention Sean Young, before she went crazy,

    narciso (3fec35)

  37. I was kidding a little with my earlier “review”. I got it that people did not kill anymore, not even insects, having been conditioned that way, and that Deckard, a person who could kill, was a rarity, even unique.

    nk (dbc370)

  38. Why do lefties insist you must provide a photo ID to purchase a gun—but not to vote ?

    Signed a petition today to get VoterID on the California ballot. Gotta start somewhere.

    Kevin M (536c5d)

  39. nk,

    I guess you’re not too big on science fiction. If you judge SF by “plausibility” then you miss the entire point of it.

    Although the point about genetic markings is a good one. The infinite enhancement photo software was a bit much, too.

    Still, the film is considered a masterpiece, and rightly so.

    Kevin M (536c5d)

  40. I’d be happy to legalize dope if we banned welfare.

    AZ Bob (ade845)

  41. You could be right, Kevin. I have read a lot of science fiction — a lot lot — but I respect little of it as literature. It’s fun but that’s as far as it goes. The movies even less so. I see most of them as space operas. Largely pedestrian and mundane, except for the props. And some, like the Star Wars franchise, embarrassingly bad.

    nk (dbc370)

  42. Getting back to the issue at hand, the issue is culture and custom, over the law, the problem is the left wants to abolish those aspects that restrain such behavior,

    narciso (3fec35)

  43. 31, 33, 39. Evidently, I seem to have run afoul of those who appreciate fiction more than I over an inability to suspend disbelief on my part.

    By ‘more plausible’ I meant a contrast between unfeeling androids and genetic monsters; between a subtext hero of sub-normal intellect and one of above normal intellect with a debilitating genetic malady; with the contrast of a psychological investigation of empathy and emotion with animals and versus androids; etc.

    The termination date I took, I think fairly, to be ethical owing to an unavoidable side-effect of the apoptosis of the organism’s cells. Moreover, I took the photograph to be holographic, the limit of magnification being on the order of the wavelength of light and, in principle, allowing a view around corners.

    Finally, the monster’s respect for life allowed the hero to enjoy a happy ending.

    That said, I tend to avoid reading fiction.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  44. Well, why do we suddenly start expecting lefties to be consistent?

    I don’t think the “war on drugs” is working but I am not sure anybody has thought through the consequences of legalizing pot.

    And I can’t wait until the Feds start seizing banks’ assets where the banks start accepting pot money. Pot may get decriminalized in some states but there are still federal laws and money laundering charges and other tools used by the Feds can make banker’s lives quite interesting…

    WarEagle82 (b18ccf)

  45. 42. Yeah, I think Bachmann had the scent, advancement of lawlessness and chaos. They want civil war, and for whatever reason, expect to emerge on top.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  46. Chuckie Schumer said the other day the “Democrats have begun to address the plight of the middle class” and government deserves our cooperation in providing solutions.

    Good luck with selling that drivel.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  47. 44. “I can’t wait until the Feds start seizing banks’ assets”

    Because that’s where the money is–Dillinger.

    Banks are in deep, deep doodoo.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  48. #44

    Have not had a chance to tell you how much I liked your team vs. FS.

    Thought I’d get that acknowlegement in before the liberals ban college football.

    steveg (794291)

  49. The legalization of drugs, prostitution, and gay marriage are middle class issues. The lower orders do their own thing whether legal or not. Now some of the middle class wants a taste of that sewage and wants the government to tell them it’s all right. It’s conformity, just to a different standard.

    nk (dbc370)

  50. 49. Yes, well, the heat is about to be turned way up on the frog.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  51. I’d guess that this place is going to need to expand

    Stash your Colorado cash here

    steveg (794291)

  52. So since then I have always had contempt for full-time stoners.

    HEY!! HEY!!! Do not diss on stoners!!

    After all, it was a stoner architect who developed the first All-Foyer Mansion


    Smock Puppet, Gadfly, Racist-Sexist Thug, and Bon Vivant All In One Package (225d0d)

  53. The heck with Big Gulps… consider the rabid-ity of their opposition to tobacco. Yeesh.

    Smock Puppet, Gadfly, Racist-Sexist Thug, and Bon Vivant All In One Package (225d0d)

  54. And I can’t wait until the Feds start seizing banks’ assets where the banks start accepting pot money.

    Not just that, but they can apply RICO to seize property used to sell pot, too…

    Expect Colorado and Oregon to be like Nevada in a decade… LOL.

    Smock Puppet, Gadfly, Racist-Sexist Thug, and Bon Vivant All In One Package (225d0d)

  55. What does a reusable plastic bag look like? Is it anything like a ‘one off’ plastic bag turned inside out?

    So the girl at the counter who used to leave you to your druthers will be asking how many bags, and charging you an extra dollar or two.

    I have a vision of a protest rally where the state capital lawn is covered knee deep in plastic bags.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  56. After decades of effort to end tobacco use, will we now replace it with pot ?

    Neo (d1c681)

  57. Will “Big Tobacco” and the “Tobacco Institute” be replaced with “Big Pot”and the Cannabis Institute” ?

    Neo (d1c681)

  58. Because that’s where the money is–Dillinger.

    No, gary, that was Willie Sutton.

    askeptic (2bb434)

  59. This is seemingly contradictory, but the reason is simple. Portion control. the lefties are not trying to take away your right to drink high calorie beverages. You can drink as much as you want. Colorado has limited the quantity of pot you can buy. Drinking/smoking much of either is bad for you, which is why I do neither in any quantity.

    We have lots of people in jail for pot offences. I can’t imagine there would ever be one for big gulp offences.

    On the ID contradiction, the reason is simple as well. This way the some of the 10 million+ who are in the country illegally (and this is not some documentation issue, they are here illegally). Even if 1/10th of 1% of them voted, it can swing a presidential election.

    Peter (966ba9)

  60. What does a reusable plastic bag look like? Is it anything like a ‘one off’ plastic bag turned inside out?

    It’s thicker.

    I’ve never understood why someone didn’t pull referendum papers in LA, as one can do with any ordinance. You’d think one could get plenty of signatures outside supermarkets.

    Kevin M (536c5d)

  61. I’m fine with legalizing pot, but there is nothing sadder than a 20-something stoner who does nothing but sit around all day and get high.

    Sure there is: the same guy at 50.

    Kevin M (536c5d)

  62. Portion control. the lefties are not trying to take away your right to drink high calorie beverages. You can drink as much as you want.

    The concepts of “portion control” and “you can drink as much as you want” are mutually exclusive.

    Chuck Bartowski (7f50c5)

  63. 63. Meanwhile the leader of the Opposition, our first line of defense, is on an evening talk-show talking golf and booze and well, just stupid.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  64. San Francisco goes several steps further, but is this inevitable for other states who are legalizing pot? Surely, if one buys into the slippery slope with pot legalization, wouldn’t this be logical? I am also struggling internally with the libertarian/conservative reactions of legalizing pot, so to me this raises the specter of dangerousness involved in consequences of opening the door to legalization. This is not attempting to legalize crack, but it is an attempt to reduce the stigma by providing free pipes in order to convince users to seek health care – not re using crack – but re HIV. What it does, ultimately, is remove the public judgement and shame of being a crackhead, which is what legalizing pot will do. I don’t think this is a complete analoy, but I don’t see it as that much of a stretch.

    When I read that advocates in San Francisco were pushing the idea of handing out free crack pipes as a means of combating HIV, I was puzzled but not surprised.

    Puzzled because I didn’t see how sharing a pipe would be likely to pass HIV. But having lived nearly 22 years in the Bay Area, nothing proposed here surprises me anymore.

    Apparently, giving free crack pipes will show crack users that they are respected, and hence, make them more likely to accept social services. From the CBS San Francisco story:

    Unlike used needles, which pierce the skin and can immediately infect someone who shares it, the sharing of crack pipes doesn’t have that same likelihood of physical contamination of HIV

    Instead, officials said, the main focus of this program would be as an outreach effort. Crack users are a population identified as at major risk to have HIV and they often become disconnected from medical services and stop taking their medicine. “It may seem counter intuitive, but it’s a great program,” said Thomas. “Once you can bring people into your program, make them feel respected, taken care of, then they’re more likely to come back and get on HIV meds and want to be engaged and taking care of their health.

    But when a city distributes free crack pipes, isn’t it saying there is nothing wrong with smoking crack? Why not skip the preliminaries and go straight to the crack? After all, SF prides itself on shattering traditional notions of respectability and moral judgments.

    The proposal has not yet at the legislative stage, but I have seen this pattern before. The ground is definitely being softened.

    Before you roll your eyes and chortle, remember this: What happens in San Francisco doesn’t stay in San Francisco.

    Dana (9a8f57)

  65. I represented a guy once who lost his driver’s license for “drug paraphernalia” — a hash pipe, no hash to go with it. Sigh. But it was in Florida. Let’s always keep in mind that San Francisco and New York City are not America.

    nk (dbc370)

  66. 65. Softening the ground for Amerikkka to accept Crack Whore, Mean Girl, as leader of the Free World(sic).

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  67. While that may be true to a certain degree, nk, some of us in So. Cal know that San Francisco has certainly influenced policies in Los Angeles area.

    Dana (9a8f57)

  68. I’ve never understood why someone didn’t pull referendum papers in LA, as one can do with any ordinance. You’d think one could get plenty of signatures outside supermarkets.

    By “Pull referendum papers” did you mean like this?

    Sacramento City Clerk dismisses arena ballot measure

    An initiative seeking to put the issue of building a new downtown arena on the June ballot has been dealt a major blow. The Sacramento City Clerk has decided to reject the June ballot measure due to problems with the petitions gathered that support it.

    According to the Sacramento Bee, Sacramento Taxpayers Opposed to Pork (STOP) and Voters for a Fair Arena Deal were notifed this morning by city clerk Shirley Concolino that their petitions were “noncompliant with the California elections code and the Sacramento City Charter and are therefore insufficient” to send the issue to a vote. They had gathered more than the necessary 22,000 signatures from registered city voters to send the issue to the June ballot.

    Clerk decided arbitrarily not to let the public vote on a downtown arena, mostly because they have lost everytime the issue was put to a vote.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  69. Forget marijuana, how can they ban Big Gulps while championing illegal immigration amnesty? Allowing filthy, un-innoculated 3rd worlders, who often wade across rivers of raw sewage on their way here, is the biggest health threat of the past 2-3 generations. Obviously, the Left considers pot smoking and illegal resident status to be beneficial to the only thing they care about…..gaining/retaining power. Convince them that allowing Big Gulps will increase their voter base and they’ll be back.

    Hortance (325a53)

  70. They hide it pretty well on the internet, but this is at least the second time the City Council has blocked a referendum for a downtown Kings Arena.

    During the TNT broadcast of Thursday’s Kings vs. Thunder game, courtside reporter Cheryl Miller asked Mayor Kevin Johnson about a bill the city council voted down on Tuesday (Febuary 2112 -pt), incorrectly stating that the move had been a rejection of the arena plan.
    In fact, the measure was an attempt to block the arena deal by putting the decision on the June ballot, which would have forced the arena plan to miss the NBA’s deadline in March. The city council shot down the idea in a 5-4 vote, keeping the arena hopes alive.

    If you can find a link showing even one direct story about the multiple times an arena deal was voted down by the public, or the machinations the City powers have used to make sure it never comes to a vote again (because they were beaten like a Kings team in a playoff game everytime it came to a public vote), you are a better surfer than I.

    City is keeping it on the low down, or is that downlow.?

    Anyhow the only discouraging word about a kings arena deal I can find is a mention as an aside, oblique to another story.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  71. 70. Not to lower the volume, but my daughter’s kindergarten class held a brief going-away-party for a classmate ahead of her flying home to Mexico for the winter last November end.

    If not absolutely healthier, the young dear has certainly avoided our flu season and the coldest MN weather since the 1880s.

    Hasta luego Papa.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  72. and all that after the Kings bought the Downtown Plaza Mall, papertiger.

    Colonel Haiku (11569f)

  73. 72. Cont.

    I’ve no doubt in points south Hispanic gangs are a growing problem. In St. Paul, however, the big gang problems are with a Viet crowd.

    I use my broken Spanish every day I work, but speak English with the Somalis and Ethiopians. The Hispanic moms, children in tow as their translators, I tend to deal with are obviously middle-class back home, well-put-together, no more than a smidge Mestizo, homemakers.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  74. Not tough thing to do. For centuries there has been a cycle of the city council trying to invigorate the downtown mall. Every five years its, “Let’s make it a double decker.” “Let’s make in pedestrian traffic only.” “Let’s give massive tax breaks to draw in major retailers.” (screwing the littler more well established businesses who were already making a go of it).
    Gentrification of a loser every five year since the dawn of time.
    Driving costs up. The difference made up (so they say) in increased parking fees.
    Consequently nobody shops downtown. Not on purpose. People avoid it like the plague.

    The saying goes it’s easy to run a successful small business downtown, just move your big business there.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  75. 72. Cont.

    Our US Chamber of Commerce lackeys and bagmen, in their push for Amnesty, doubtless have in mind getting millions, no, tens of millions, off welfare rolls and paying taxes.

    So when you file out to vote for the lesser of two evils, remember, you are casting a vote for Sh*t 4 Brains as the hoped for best possible outcome.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  76. “Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg supported New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s effort to decriminalize marijuana in New York State, while at the same time supporting a ban on extra-large sodas. A 32-ounce Mountain Dew is bad for you, but pot isn’t?”

    I have yet to run into a viable or functioning legalization proposal that does not include the type of restrictions (limits on sales, possession, where the stuff can be used) much more onerous than a simple limit on the size of a sugary drink container. But that lacks the gotchat and involves just a little bit of understanding beyond political posturing.

    d.wildst (ae20f1)

  77. Obviously, the Left considers pot smoking and illegal resident status to be beneficial to the only thing they care about

    And what really irritates me about such “limousine liberals” (and many or most people on the left, regardless of their income level but based on their behavior behind closed doors, can be tagged with that label) is that when they’ve created or added even more dysfunction throughout this society, including growing numbers of ravaged neighborhoods or things like increasingly mediocre public schools, they’ll pack their bags, load up the moving van and head off to greener pastures elsewhere. In effect, they create and leave behind mini-Detroits or full-sized Chicagos throughout America.

    Mark (49bed7)

  78. 77. Effete posturing personified:

    Leave off hope all ye who enter here.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  79. from the “History is their enemy” files,
    I found another oblique mention of one of the government schemes designed to steal property for the furtherance of the Kings new arena on a message board.

    California State Fair / Cal Expo .

    They wanted to abscond with the fair grounds and give it pay the Maloofs multi milions of dollars to use it as the site for a new arena.

    That proposal was shot down by public vote.

    One of the comments there linked a story at the SacBee describing the wonderful fit Kings arena would be to the area, after Cal Expo is demolished.
    Here’s the link.

    You’ll have to take my word for it, because the Bee is all in for whatever the democrats want in Sac, and if the history gets in the way, pages get deleted.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  80. Isolationists with a deathwish:

    Have you tried growing coca?

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  81. Did you know Sean Young is starring in a new Star Trek feature?

    She’s playing the Doc.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  82. Bread, circuses, and Rocky Mountain high. Get with the program, dude.

    Amphipolis (e01538)

  83. House Majority Floor Leader Rida Canabisilla is looking to marijuana to solve some of Hawaii financial troubles.

    Canabisilla said she hopes to legalize cultivation, manufacturing and exporting of marijuana and marijuana food products in Hawaii to pay off the state’s billions of dollars in unfunded liabilities as well as make infrastructure repairs and fund public education and human services programs.

    “This state would turn into a manufacturing state. Can you imagine factories that would be making ‘Maui Wowie’ cookies and making marijuana macadamia nut candy for export? I think that would be wonderful,” said Cabanilla, who represents Ewa Villages, Ewa Beach, Ewa Gentry, Ocean Pointe and West Loch.

    Or you could elect responsible leadership.
    I know. That’s just crazy talk.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  84. I wonder how these states figure that marijuana is going to support all these wonderful things if legalized, since the first thing that’s going to happen is a drastic drop in the price.

    A dime bag bushel, that’s the future.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  85. Marijuana turns us into sheep.

    Amphipolis (0eeefe)

  86. The answer to the headline question is quite simple: leftism is a mental disorder, not a legitimate political ideology. Keep that in mind when you’re in the ballot booth or, alternatively, when you’re sitting on the couch at the country club, having decided not to vote.

    Lawrence Westlake (48fb95)

  87. Good Allah, that hectoring meme just never gets old.

    JD (4ab7ea)

  88. First we see that newspeak was not a warning but a prophecy, now we see that governments want to put the public on “Soma Holidays”.

    Find the graves of Orwell and Huxley, connect axles to their spinning corpses, and we’ll have enough electricity to run all of the space heaters from Brownsville to International Falls.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  89. 86. Marijuana turns us into sheep.

    Comment by Amphipolis (0eeefe) — 1/27/2014 @ 5:19 am

    In more ways than one. Gun stores in states that have legalized pot have to put up signs saying that anyone with a medical marijuana card can’t purchase or possess guns or ammunition. So they are entirely dependent on the government for their protection, like sheep are on a sheepdog.

    Of course, a nation of sheep has a government of wolves. Which isn’t too different from raising actual sheep, since we cultivate the sheep for a reason and that reason isn’t to feed the four-legged wolves.

    Big Gulps don’t create dependents who are destined to be lifelong government clients, slouching on the couch getting crumbs all over themselves as they snack on their munchies. You’re likely to see a big gulp full of Mountain Dew in a truck cab or on some manager’s desk because they need the caffeine. It doesn’t stop them from getting high paying jobs, whereas the stoners if they want to get off the couch and get a job are limited to jobs that don’t require you to pass a drug test (and legalization or not that won’t change).

    And, really, who needs food stamps more than somebody making minimum wage and goes through Doritos by the crate?

    Steve57 (dcc128)

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