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12/28/2013

Long Term Unemployment Benefits Set to Expire for Many

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 8:45 pm

It can’t go on forever.

60 Responses to “Long Term Unemployment Benefits Set to Expire for Many”

  1. Recovery Summer 2014!

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  2. obama is a filthy redistributionist slut

    keep your soros-loving ass away from my money ok loser?

    ok

    I’m glad we had this talk

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  3. it’s not like there are any j*bs to be had…

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  4. this Dean Heller whore from Nevada

    he’s never actually been elected to his office

    this should be noted I think

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  5. MERRY CHRISTMAS!!

    Yeah, you, you unemployed people!!

    All Praise Obama!!

    IGotBupkis, "Not At Home For Xmas" (155353)

  6. Been a part time worker the last 5 years, where the f are my benefits?
    They should shoot politicians that are failures.
    Between the eyes.

    mg (31009b)

  7. I dunno. Isn’t it better to end long-term unemployment, and why is it considered a benefit?

    Kevin M (536c5d)

  8. define “benefit”…

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  9. whore Hellar is the proper name for that Rove infested traitor, happyfeet.

    mg (31009b)

  10. 6. In due time.

    The CongressCritters see the DOOM of lower tax receipts looming along with sharply higher costs of financing the debt.

    They should be scared sh*tless.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  11. U.S.A. Welfare paid for by the working class.
    U.S.A. Welfare used by progressives to gain more votes.
    Shoot Me
    Between the eyes.

    mg (31009b)

  12. The goal isn’t “forever”. The goal is “past the mid-terms”, then who gives a flying f— from Barack Obama’s perspective?

    Former Conservative (6e026c)

  13. Expect an ex cathedria extension?

    Pious Agnostic (ac89e5)

  14. Recall Heller was the former Bureau guy, in ‘Smoking Aces’ and turned into a gangster,

    narciso (3fec35)

  15. Funemployment, staycation, etc., what other Orwellian term will the administration come up with to make the economic woes sound positive?

    Oh yeah, and green shoots! Are we allowed to write “shoots” anymore? I can’t keep up with the rules any longer.

    Huitzilincuatec (f7d5ba)

  16. the chocolate rations are being distributed efficiently.

    narciso (3fec35)

  17. How long do you suppose this expiration will be allowed to continue?

    SEIU and Acorn will be out protesting and the media will have the usual sob stories and then…more spending!

    Patricia (be0117)

  18. What can’t continue–won’t.

    Comanche Voter (bd140e)

  19. The poverty will continue until the public is bankrupt.

    htom (412a17)

  20. Some of us saw those expire back in ’10.

    askeptic (2bb434)

  21. This happened because the Democrats wanted to maximize spending, and the Republicans did not themselves actually want to extend unemployment benefits.

    In the budget negotiations, they “paid” for other things, and left, what they claim is most important, for last, outside the framework, in hopes of getting it not paid for.

    Also because there’s no big lobby – at least not as big as other lobbies – giving campaign contribitions and so on – in return for extending unemployment benefits, bit there is for some other thimngsm

    Sammy Finkelman (b9404b)

  22. Now there’s a real problem. There’s discrimination against the long term unemployed, and there are people who have almost no chance of getting a similar job maybe because the number of such jobs has shrunk, or a factory moved away.

    A lot of people will wind up collectinmg early Social Security or claiming and qualifying for disability.

    Others will take out a reverse mortgage, which can subject people to a high tax bill they can’t pay if they ever leave.

    It might be an idea to let people collect – even very early – temporary Social Security benefits, of an amount they will pick. They will try too limit it, and perhaps this can be limited to one to three years. It can all be actuarually adjusted, and people will try to take the minimum and even pay it back, which now can be done at minimal interest.

    Sammy Finkelman (b9404b)

  23. Expectations must be lowered in 0bamaWorld.

    Colonel Haiku (76c948)

  24. Based upon the recent past, there are no expectations left in ObamaWorld, except bad ones.

    askeptic (2bb434)

  25. Another stupid human trick comes to an expensive end:

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/28/world/antarctica-ship-stuck/

    The two lighter duty icebreakers have retreated to safety. The Ozzie rated 30% more capable is going to “have a look see”.

    A model of future recues of Progressive ph*ckups.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  26. the funniest part about the whole Antarctic fiasco is that it’s the height of summer down there, so if they’re trapped now, wait’ll winter comes back.

    natural selection is a wonderful thing… unless it’s you getting selected, of course.

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  27. Some of us saw those expire back in ’10.

    Comment by askeptic (2bb434) — 12/29/2013 @ 10:45 am

    and some of us did in 2008… booming economy my a55

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  28. Whose fox-hole you jumping into when being fired upon?
    A. Moderate Republicans and the east coast elites.
    B. Racist, homophobic, well armed Tea Baggers.

    mg (31009b)

  29. We should all expect to see the mythical “Unemployment Rate” go down as more folks are moved to the ranks of the “discouraged.”

    Neo (d1c681)

  30. 3. it’s not like there are any j*bs to be had…

    Comment by redc1c4 (abd49e) — 12/28/2013 @ 9:58 pm

    Of course not. You can’t suck the money out of the productive private sector that creates jobs and redistribute it to people who don’t and expect there to be jobs.

    I’m lumping in redistributing the wealth of others to Obama/liberal rent-seekers and cronies like the principals behind Solyndra along with those getting long term unemployment benefits. Most of the latter group would really like a job. But with Obama and the liberals laying waste to whole industries that’s not likely to happen. Just ask an oil worker down on the Gulf coast if he or she would rather have a job instead of long term unemployment benefits.

    The geniuses in DC now want to raise the minimum wage. So the people on unemployment won’t even be able to afford to shop at Walmart anymore.

    http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/No-Subway-5-Footlongs-In-SF-Cost-of-Doing-Business-Too-High-144709445.html

    No Subway $5 Footlongs In SF, ‘Cost of Doing Business’ Too High

    Subway can’t make sandwiches for $5 anymore. Not in San Francisco.

    By Chris Roberts
    | Thursday, Mar 29, 2012 | Updated 11:57 AM PST

    …Customers can still buy the sub of the month for $5, according to an employee at Subway on Market and Castro streets.

    Apparently, the city’s new minimum wage, raised to $10.24 as of Jan. 1, make $5 footlongs an impossible business model.

    Unless you want tuna fish, which is the sub of the month. Yum.

    Steve57 (be5be1)

  31. the funniest part about the whole Antarctic fiasco is that it’s the height of summer down there, so if they’re trapped now, wait’ll winter comes back.

    Comment by redc1c4 (abd49e) — 12/29/2013 @ 3:39 pm

    Funniest part to me is, global warmers are the ones trapped they are! GOD just won’t cooperate with their agenda at all, HE won’t! Makes fools of them HE does! After the many thumps on head that HE has given them, get the message they do not! Every meeting, conference, etc. that they have, sends them unusually cold weather and snow, HE does!

    Yoda (c1890a)

  32. it looks like global warming tourism is very much a white people thing

    who knew?

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  33. The Republicans ought to offer a one-time benefit to anyone who had a job in 2008 who is still unemployed. All they have to do is state that they are looking for work. This will bring the unemployment rate back up to about 13%…

    Kevin M (536c5d)

  34. Now we’ll finally get on camera the full impact of Obama and Congress’ mishandling of the economy in the US.

    People in bread lines, selling apples (no not those apples) by the side of the road, and New Okies (aka NEasterners and WCoasters) headed back to the Midwest and Texas looking for jobs.

    Of course it will all be blamed on BUSH!!!

    jakee308 (e940d5)

  35. I believe it’s spelled, “Boooosh!”

    Steve57 (be5be1)

  36. It can’t go on forever.

    It can’t, but the pols are going to do everything within their power to make it last as long as possible.

    Blacque Jacques Shellacque (9a01e5)

  37. This happened because the Democrats wanted to maximize spending, and the Republicans did not themselves actually want to extend unemployment benefits.

    In the budget negotiations, they “paid” for other things, and left, what they claim is most important, for last, outside the framework, in hopes of getting it not paid for.

    Also because there’s no big lobby – at least not as big as other lobbies – giving campaign contribitions and so on – in return for extending unemployment benefits, bit there is for some other thimngsm

    Comment by Sammy Finkelman (b9404b) — 12/29/2013 @ 12:56 pm

    Somnambulistic commenting again, Finky? Get some sleep.

    Amalgamated Cliff Divers, Local 157 (f7d5ba)

  38. The latest on Shackleton’s revenge:

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/12/29/saving-the-antarctic-scientists-er-media-er-activists-er-tourists-trapped-by-sea-ice/#more-100034

    It would seem they’d better like the taste of seal blubber, provided they can fashion harpoons and line.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  39. 32. Kathleen Sebelius earlier said they need 7 million by the end of March for this to be a success work.

    I think the insurance companies are scared of HHS and Obama, not so much because they have been threatened that they may not be allowed to use healthcare.gov next year, but rather because they may need a bailout. And if they need a bailout, they’re going to need President Obama’s support if they have any hope of getting that through Congress, and so they are trying to co-operate asmuch as they think reasonable.

    This figure of 1.1 million can shrink, because this is only people who completed their part on the website.

    Insurance companies may not know people are enrolled, and people may decide not to pay the premiums, and/or later try to cancel only to discover it is a little like a cell phone plan – you can’t replace it with another plan – and people may stop paying after a while.

    Sammy Finkelman (b9404b)

  40. 40. Cont. The bad news is the ENSO meter had flirted with positive territory over the last month or so but now has ticked negative.

    No El Nino this year, and no doubt a shortened Summer down under.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  41. From Krugman the Nobel prize winning economist – via his introductory to economics textbook – Unemployment benefits create a disincentive to find work.
    From Krugman the NYT economist – unemployment benefits are needed to be extended to help stimulate the economy.

    Note that ending welfare as we know it did more to increase employment of that sector of the workforce than all other government programs aimed at that sector combined.

    joe (debac0)

  42. In the end, it is futile.

    There isn’t anybody proposing that unemployment benefits continue for 2 years, 3 years, 5 years.

    And therefore, what’s so good about 99 weeks?

    But some people have a real problem.

    —————————————-

    In another matter, here is an interesting link:

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/367082/art-escape-rich-lowry#!

    He says that Obama is engaging in civil disobediance with regard to Obamacare. It’s just that the law he’s disobeying is a law he himself lobbied for, signed, and lost a House of Congress over.

    “At every turn, he is confronted by the irrationalities and inconveniences of his own health-care law.”

    “This is not just government by diktat, but government by embarrassed diktat.

    Understandably, since the administration has a lot to be embarrassed about, it long ago stopped caring about coherence.”

    “It’s as if Teddy Roosevelt dreaded the consequences of the Pure Food and Drug Act. Or if Franklin Delano Roosevelt repeatedly tried to wiggle out of the Social Security Act. Or Lyndon Baines Johnson shot the Civil Rights Act through with ad hoc, after-the-fact exemptions.”

    Sammy Finkelman (b9404b)

  43. the funniest part about the whole Antarctic fiasco is that it’s the height of summer down there, so if they’re trapped now, wait’ll winter comes back.

    It’s not the height of summer, it’s only December. It should get warmer in January and February, and more ice should melt. But of course with the Gore effect, who knows?

    Milhouse (50cb78)

  44. 45. Yes, that’s right!

    It doesn’t get hottest on the longest day of the year, and it doesn’t get coldest on the shortest day oof the year (although it’s close)

    The dasy is about the same length on February 22, as on October 22, but he weather isn’t the same.

    Sammy Finkelman (b9404b)

  45. The Democrats intend to make an issue of the minimum wage in 2014.

    When the minimum wage is extended to too many jobs, it’s damaging.

    There need to be jobs with high turnover.

    Sammy Finkelman (b9404b)

  46. Does anyone else think that the Soviets/Russians were a bit premature in retiring the nuclear-powered icebreaker Lenin back in 1989?
    But, they do have three additional Arktika-class icebreakers – wonder if any of them are sea-worthy?
    At least it would allow the freeing of their ship without the use of fossil-fuels, which would just destroy the pristine Antarctic environment, plunging Gaia into a spiral of destruction.

    askeptic (b8ab92)

  47. 45, 46. Gales beginning around Xmas day blew the sea ice in around the Shokalskiy, a former icebreaker now converted for ecotourism, and has frozen roughly 2 meters thick.

    The Austrailian breaker was the sturdiest rated for 1.3 meters of those in the area(France’s claim is just to the west in latitude).

    Since it is now 10 miles from open water the ship is in real danger even if the ice were to melt this season. Effectively the hull breaks the ice by its weight, the thicker bow riding up onto the ice.

    More to the point, it is still 500 miles from landfall at its closest reach. Someone has $50 Million worth of ‘splain’n to do and the meter is running.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  48. Mixed up my latitude and longitude, Doh!

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  49. In cases like this, the G-Mail account can be undeleted.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/22/opinion/sunday/thank-you-for-hacking-me.html?_r=0

    Twenty-four hours passed with no serious repercussions, then another 12. By that point, I had pretty much straightened things out — changed my passwords and security settings, disabled the phony Yahoo account the thief had created under my name, recovered my emails, restored my contact list, reported the fraud, and sent emails to close friends I hadn’t heard from to warn them to ignore any requests from me for money.

    Not so for Google blogs, though, I think.

    He was nmot able to prevent one of his contacts from sending $700 via Western Union. He wanted to reimburse him – they agreed to split the money.

    Sammy Finkelman (b9404b)

  50. Long lines at the bank today, withdrawals mostly.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-30/bifurcated-housing-bubble-why-didnt-i-buy-crazy

    This will not end well. The hedges and China have spent their lunch money on Rental properties and they’re tapped out.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  51. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/31/us/colorful-names-for-laws.html?_r=0

    Clever titles for laws are a new phenomenon, having appeared “perhaps three times in the entire history of the republic before 1988,” according to a comprehensive survey prepared by Professor Sagers.

    Sammy Finkelman (b9404b)

  52. 51. Correction:

    http://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/map/antarctica_map.htm

    Using some NZ report, Shokalskiy 1500 nautical miles south of Tasmania, I used a similar map to place the ship.

    Actually, the distance Tasmania to Antarctica is closer to 1400 than 1500 miles and the ship really is virtually on the coast under the ‘o’ in “Victoria Land”.

    Something is wrong with the legend on these maps.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  53. Like I say, it’s a poor comparison;

    http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/181828/

    narciso (3fec35)

  54. For nearly five years, this dearth didn’t seem to matter much. He responded with cool self-confidence during his first weeks in office, in the midst of a financial meltdown, continuing George W. Bush’s bank bailout and then passing his own $787 billion stimulus package. The raid that killed Osama bin Laden may not have been, as Vice President Joe Biden said, the most “audacious plan” in 500 years. But it certainly did not suggest, as the Obamacare rollout did, a president squinting Elmer Fudd-like to understand what was happening — and not happening — in the bowels of his own government about his most important domestic initiative.

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/12/obamacare-obama-management-experts-101620.html#ixzz2pA4PUKha

    narciso (3fec35)


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