Patterico's Pontifications

12/2/2013

FIXED!!!!!!!!1!!11!!

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:42 am

Here’s a quote from a guy who doesn’t quite get it:

“This is the equivalent of having a great item that you want to buy in the store but not being able to get though the front door,” Sen. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.) said on CBS’s “Face The Nation.” “It sounds like the front door has been opened successfully now.”

Yay! Too bad they, um, haven’t built the cash registers yet.

We’re not laughing with you, Mr. Obama. We’re . . . oh, just take a look:

81 Comments

  1. Ding.

    Comment by Patterico (9c670f) — 12/2/2013 @ 7:43 am

  2. obamacare is a rip-off

    they’re just trying to trick you into paying for free healthcare for filthy foodstampers

    no thank you

    Comment by happyfeet (8ce051) — 12/2/2013 @ 7:46 am

  3. Maybe the liberals can fix Obamacare with another headline or fancy title on a bill. Perhaps the “Making Obamacare Work Act” could patch things right up.

    Comment by DejectedHead (a094a6) — 12/2/2013 @ 8:02 am

  4. Dumb broad. She’s given Obama a “hateful” video he’s been waiting for. Now Sebelius can go on five Sunday talk shows and claim the rollout failure wasn’t due to the fact that Healthcare.gov didn’t fail because it’s code consists entirely of the stuxnet virus. No, it failed because of an anti-Obamacare video.

    I hope she doesn’t have any outstanding parole/probation violations or she’ll see the inside of a prison cell. If not, I hope she enjoys her next tax audit.

    Comment by Steve57 (4f25e8) — 12/2/2013 @ 8:05 am

  5. Dejectedhead @3, maybe if they just added games to the site people wouldn’t notice it doesn’t work. Plus it would get more traffic, so the skipper of the Titanic can announce more successes as the ship sinks.

    I have a game to nominate.

    http://www.box10.com/falling-obama.html

    Comment by Steve57 (4f25e8) — 12/2/2013 @ 8:14 am

  6. I have to admit, with the hot camera on Il Douche he can be a decent moderator of community organization meetups.

    I also trust implicitly that he fellates with the best of the rest among Crack Whores.

    But this joke of a website is just cumming in his face. He loves it; it’s his piece de resistance. This useless ph*ck has never blushed in his life.

    Comment by gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 12/2/2013 @ 8:36 am

  7. Baby steps, people!!!

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (69d3b6) — 12/2/2013 @ 8:36 am

  8. he so nasty

    Comment by happyfeet (8ce051) — 12/2/2013 @ 8:40 am

  9. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/02/business/white-house-praises-gains-on-health-site.html?hp&_r=1&&pagewanted=all

    When I read that New York Times article

    In still other cases, insurers said, they have not been told how much of a customer’s premium will be subsidized by the government, so they do not know how much to charge the policyholder.

    I realized that the work-around of making aggregate payments of the government portion of the premiums to the insurance companies didn’t solve the problem, because the insurance companies still wouldn’t know what to bill people individually.

    That’s only a work-around of the government payment system. They still have the billing problem.

    Comment by Sammy Finkelman (c720af) — 12/2/2013 @ 9:43 am

  10. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/10/13/us/how-the-federal-exchange-is-supposed-to-work-and-how-it-didnt.html?ref=business

    This doesn’t list all the problems.

    For instance, some people have difficulty verifying that they are who they say they are.

    People with problems are supposed to be able to fax or mail copies of driver’s licenses, Social Security cards or voter registration cards, but they all just go into a waiting list for processing.

    Comment by Sammy Finkelman (c720af) — 12/2/2013 @ 9:48 am

  11. Federal officials are encouraging insurers to let consumers sign up directly with them. But in the middle of this online enrollment process, consumers must be transferred to the federal website if they want to obtain tax credit subsidies to pay some or all of their premiums in 2014.

    In late November a (leaked) document said problems included people being told they are eligible for subsidies when they are not, enrollment notices sent to insurers missing the non-subsidized portion of the bill the customer is supposed to pay, or the amount of the government’s responsibility, and/or the identification number.

    Some people found eligible for a 100% subsidy had their enrollment blocked.

    In other cases the information needed to calculate the estimated subsidy – because it is only an estimate which is corrected come April 2015 – was not retrieved.

    Comment by Sammy Finkelman (c720af) — 12/2/2013 @ 9:55 am

  12. This is only the smallest p[art of the problem.

    The biggest problem is with what the law itself does.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/29/us/lack-of-doctors-may-worsen-as-millions-join-medicaid-rolls.html?pagewanted=all

    Last five paragraphs:

    Dr. Paul Urrea, an ophthalmologist in Monterey Park, said he was skeptical of “blue-sky scenarios” suggesting that all new enrollees would have access to care. “Having been in the trenches with Medi-Cal patients who have serious eye problems,” he said, “I can tell you it’s very, very hard to get them in to see those specialists.”

    Dr. Urrea said that when he recently tried to refer a Medicaid patient with a cornea infection to another eye specialist, he was initially informed that the specialist could not see the patient until February. “And this is a potentially blinding condition,” he added.

    Dr. Mazer, who leads a committee of the California Medical Association that grapples with Medicaid issues, said the managed-care plans he contracts with “keep on sending us patients, and right now I’m scheduled four weeks out.”

    Oresta Johnson, 59, who sees Dr. Mazer through the state’s interim health care program for low-income residents but will switch to Medicaid in January, said she had faced “excessively long” waits to see specialists who could treat her degenerative joint disease. Dr. Mazer is monitoring her thyroid gland, she said, and she is hoping she will not have a problem getting back in to see him next spring, when she may need a biopsy.

    “I understand there’s a lot of people who need help,” she said. “But am I not going to be able to see who I need to see?”

    Dr. Urrea persisted, so he managed to get an appointment for the patient, but you see the problem.

    Comment by Sammy Finkelman (c720af) — 12/2/2013 @ 10:00 am

  13. The Drudge headline says Obama wants to visit Tehran next year. There are no words for this kind of stupidity.

    Comment by DRJ (a83b8b) — 12/2/2013 @ 10:17 am

  14. “For instance, some people have difficulty verifying that they are who they say they are.”

    Sammy – Why is the verification a problem of the people using the website rather than the problem of the people who created the website? Once again you have the issue bass ackwards.

    Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 12/2/2013 @ 10:21 am

  15. “The biggest problem is with what the law itself does.”

    Sammy – Nothing new here. This was all pointed out repeatedly before the bill was passed and ignored. Move along.

    Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 12/2/2013 @ 10:25 am

  16. As Nixon reached out to China, so Obama goes Full Mullah…

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (69d3b6) — 12/2/2013 @ 10:30 am

  17. The Drudge headline says Obama wants to visit Tehran next year

    I have no problem with him going…

    Comment by Kevin M (536c5d) — 12/2/2013 @ 10:34 am

  18. “For instance, some people have difficulty verifying that they are who they say they are.”

    14. Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 12/2/2013 @ 10:21 am

    Sammy – Why is the verification a problem of the people using the website rather than the problem of the people who created the website? Once again you have the issue bass ackwards.

    I mean people have a problem using the website. That’s not their problem.

    But this is not really so much a problem with the website, as it is with their procedures for preventing impersonation.

    It’s basically been contracted out to Experian, which has come up with a bunch of test questions based on your credit report, if there is one.

    I don’t think they even do what PayPal did at the start, or what banks do – test deposits to your checking account (if there is one, of course, but if there isn’t one you couldn’t use PayPal or online banking anyway.)

    Customer service was supposed to handle people who didn’t make it through the verification, but that got hopelessly backlogged.

    They didn’t plan on people failing the verification. Another piece of stupidity.

    The verification is really tough because they don’t want people faking their address to get cheaper insurance.

    Comment by Sammy Finkelman (c720af) — 12/2/2013 @ 10:35 am

  19. Reports I see are that the website is ALL front end. You can’t set up an account, you can’t communicate your choices to insurers and you can’t pay for anything.

    All you can do is window shop, and the prices in the window all say “Starting at…”

    Comment by Kevin M (536c5d) — 12/2/2013 @ 10:37 am

  20. “But this is not really so much a problem with the website, as it is with their procedures for preventing impersonation.”

    Sammy – Since you have described people mailing documentation to insurers to prove who they are, the issue does not seem to be one of preventing identity theft, but needless complexity built into the system.

    Ask yourself why somebody would want to impersonate somebody else to actually pay for a product when the impersonation would likely be discovered upon the first use of the product? I don’t think so.

    I think it’s more like a function of needless data gathering and complexity built into the system.

    Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 12/2/2013 @ 10:50 am

  21. “The verification is really tough because they don’t want people faking their address to get cheaper insurance.”

    Sammy – So your theory is that they need to fake the identity of a dead person who does not need insurance after researching areas where insurance is cheaper?

    That must be it.

    Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 12/2/2013 @ 10:54 am

  22. Daley,

    I do think there is a danger of fictitious and otherwise fraudulent accounts, with the goal being to create income streams for dodgy providers. The fraud in the first year, particularly from “clients” with little or no medical history, is going to be awesome.

    Comment by Kevin M (536c5d) — 12/2/2013 @ 10:59 am

  23. When it comes to registering to vote and voting, the Obama Administration was all alert to the possibility that some people might not pass the verification tests, but when it came to healthcare.gov – that didn’t matter – they just assumed it would take care of itself. Or Experian would take care if it.

    Here is the Experian help page:

    http://www.experian.com/help/health-insurance-marketplace-verification.html

    Any person with a frozen credit file will have to temporarily unfreeze it if they want to do it online, but they ab still do it by telephone to Experian. For children, remember to use an adult’s information. Use the address connected with banking and utility bills. Write down your reference code (and the special telephone number) you get at healthcare.gov so you can call and tell it to Experian.

    If something physical is needed, like a copy of a document or documents, that process is backlogged.

    Healthcare.gov will tell people they need to submit documents but maybe that’s not true. Uploading a picture of documents, as the site tells people to do, is just a way to get into limbo, becase they apparently don’t have enough people to review them.

    The right way to do it is to call Experian, but they need their reference number. Once having failed to note it down, there are apparently no easily findable instructions as to how to get it, if it is possible at all, except maybe to start the whole process all over again with a different User ID and password.

    About 10% of the people who attempt to register are experiencing problems with getting verified:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/26/us/id-verification-lagging-on-health-care-website.html

    Joanne Peters, a spokeswoman for the Department of Health and Human Services, said that 90 percent of consumers were able to create accounts and complete “identity proofing” online.

    “However,” she said, “some consumers whose information does not match records, such as when an alternate name is used or their address does not match, may be referred to a call center” for identification verification, and in complicated cases they may experience “a wait time before receiving a determination.”

    Comment by Sammy Finkelman (c720af) — 12/2/2013 @ 11:00 am

  24. what a nightmare

    Comment by happyfeet (c60db2) — 12/2/2013 @ 11:18 am

  25. “I do think there is a danger of fictitious and otherwise fraudulent accounts, with the goal being to create income streams for dodgy providers.”

    Kevin M – I agree except to the extent of the exchanges where providers I believe had to receive a seal of approval from either the state or federal government to participate.

    Away from the exchanges I see the possibility of many “hip-pocket” brokers or insurers being created to dupe consumers by collecting cash and claiming to provide coverage.

    This is different than normal fraud scams because it requires consumers to send cash to the government or an insurer instead of the reverse.

    Also, you keep raising the point of people participating who have never had insurance before and I have never seen and statistics on that group before if any are available. I recall carving up Obama’s original 48 million uninsured figure down to 7 million uninsured by stripping away illegal immigrants, those eligible for medicaid or medicare who had not signed up, those eligible for COBRA, and those able to purchase insurance in the private market but electing not to do it. The 7 million individuals represented those with preexisting health conditions typically shut out of the private insurance market who could have purchased insurance in existing state high risk pools or pools created by Obamacare which did not exhaust themselves to my knowledge. The issue there has always been cost, first and foremost.

    Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 12/2/2013 @ 11:20 am

  26. Comment by DRJ (a83b8b) — 12/2/2013 @ 10:17 am

    Yes, there are:

    Progressive denial of reality fantasies.

    Comment by askeptic (b8ab92) — 12/2/2013 @ 11:33 am

  27. Now, to expand upon Kevin @ 17, if we can only figure out a way to totally piss-off the Mullah’s enough to keep him there.

    Comment by askeptic (b8ab92) — 12/2/2013 @ 11:35 am

  28. National Soros Radio is very eager for you to understand how deeply deeply racist these Republicans are

    This is why we pay taxes. For so National Soros Radio can help you to understand how deeply deeply racist these Republicans are

    While the gaffe was relatively minor, it plays into the damaging narrative about the Republican Party — that it only pays lip service to the notion of increasing its appeal to minority voters. Indeed, from voter ID to immigration, the party is widely viewed as hostile to minority voters. So the tweet fit a stereotype about the party.

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2013/12/02/248209405/rnc-tweet-reinforces-hard-to-shake-gop-stereotype

    Indeed, from voter ID to immigration, the party is widely viewed as hostile to minority voters.

    Indeed, from voter ID to immigration, the party is widely viewed as hostile to minority voters.

    Indeed, from voter ID to immigration, the party is widely viewed as hostile to minority voters.

    Comment by happyfeet (c60db2) — 12/2/2013 @ 12:38 pm

  29. I’m surprised that Obama hasn’t ordered the insurance carriers to provide insurance and worry about the premiums and payment later.

    Comment by rochf (f3fbb0) — 12/2/2013 @ 12:50 pm

  30. He’ll do that when they discover, in the pages of the NYT/WaPo, that the back-office of the website is unfixable.

    Comment by askeptic (b8ab92) — 12/2/2013 @ 1:15 pm

  31. “Front door”??? Menendez was a back door man down in teh DR…

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (69d3b6) — 12/2/2013 @ 1:16 pm

  32. The 7 million individuals represented those with preexisting health conditions typically shut out of the private insurance market

    yes. shut out by price or sloth. Also, many such persons are of low income (this is strongly correlated with being sick), but some will be in the Medicaid pool instead.

    The way Obamacare is structured, the individual pool now contains additional persons nearly ALL of whom drive up the average price (people who are uninsured have pent up demand even if they aren’t that sick). This scares the bejeezus out of insurers and has driven the rates for the incumbent members of the individual policy pool through the roof.

    Comment by Kevin M (536c5d) — 12/2/2013 @ 1:51 pm

  33. Rasmussen:

    Republicans have jumped to a five-point lead on the Generic Congressional Ballot for the week ending December 1.

    A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows that 43% of Likely U.S. Voters would vote for the Republican in their district’s congressional race if the election were held today, while 38% would choose the Democrat instead.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/generic_congressional_ballot

    Comment by Kevin M (536c5d) — 12/2/2013 @ 1:58 pm

  34. Unaffordable Potemkin Act

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (69d3b6) — 12/2/2013 @ 2:44 pm

  35. Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 12/2/2013 @ 10:54 am

    Sammy – So your theory is that they need to fake the identity of a dead person who does not need insurance after researching areas where insurance is cheaper?

    I think the theory is that some people might fake their home address, like they do with auto insurance.

    I am suspicious that that may be also why they wanted people to create an account and log-in before being able to browse, so they wouldn’t discover that if, say, they lived 60 miles away in ne direction, their insurance would be a lot cheaper.

    They didn’t want people faking their address because that would throw off the insurance companies’ calculations.

    Now, one drawback to using a different address is that so many of the policies on the exchange have narrow networks, with limited geographical reach.

    Comment by Sammy Finkelman (c720af) — 12/2/2013 @ 2:58 pm

  36. I’m curious about what states with big populations of illegal immigrants are going to do, and that’s not just the border states anymore.

    For instance, illegal immigrants can’t get insurance but they will still be entitled to emergency health care — and that includes a lot of services in most states. Things like pediatric care, even for routine illnesses, are provided and so is long-term care for cancer, heart disease, etc. Most communities provide care through county/charitable hospitals and community-funded clinics.

    How can the hospitals (especially) live up to the ObamaCare funding restrictions and still provide that care? It’s obviously coming out of the taxpayers’ wallets but I have a feeling there will be federal penalties, not subsidies, for costs like these.

    Comment by DRJ (a83b8b) — 12/2/2013 @ 3:01 pm

  37. 29. Comment by rochf (f3fbb0) — 12/2/2013 @ 12:50 pm

    I’m surprised that Obama hasn’t ordered the insurance carriers to provide insurance and worry about the premiums and payment later.

    He can’t order them to do that. Maybe he requested it, but there was pushback.

    The insurance companies won’t consider anyone covered until they pay the first month’s premium.

    I think the law provides a grace period after that. If someone stops paying, the government cover the first unpaid month, and the company must absorb the next two months before terminating the policy.

    This is, I guess, supposed to encourage the insurance companies to try to collect the money.

    Of course, there is a problem is figuring out what an individual’s payment is supposed to be, in the case of anyone claiming to be eligible for a subsidy.

    They sort of took care of the government’s portion of the payment by agreeing to pay an estimated total to each insurance company.

    In any case the policy will be in effect and the federal government is probably good for the money, once they can figure out what they owe.

    The part of the website that tells the companies what they are going to pay – it issues 834 enrollment notices – is not working properly.

    And the part to actually manage the payments and tie it to individual insurance policies hasn’t yet been written. (but as I said they can at least come up with an approximate total due to each insurance company.)

    Comment by Sammy Finkelman (c720af) — 12/2/2013 @ 3:12 pm

  38. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/09/health/cuts-in-hospital-subsidies-threaten-safety-net-care.html

    Comment by Sammy Finkelman (c720af) — 12/2/2013 @ 3:14 pm

  39. That should be:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/09/health/cuts-in-hospital-subsidies-threaten-safety-net-care.html?pagewanted=all

    A government subsidy, little known outside health policy circles but critical to the hospitals’ survival, is being sharply reduced under the new health law.

    The subsidy, which for years has helped defray the cost of uncompensated and undercompensated care, was cut substantially on the assumption that the hospitals would replace much of the lost income with payments for patients newly covered by Medicaid or private insurance. But now the hospitals in states like Georgia will get neither the new Medicaid patients nor most of the old subsidies, which many say are crucial to the mission of care for the poor…..Cancer care may be among the services reduced, administrators here said. Memorial is now one of only a few hospitals in the state with a tumor clinic that accepts poor patients without insurance. Many show up coughing blood or having trouble breathing because their cancers have gone untreated for so long.

    On a recent afternoon, Dr. Wade Fletcher, who practices at the hospital, thumbed through a stack of patient intake forms. The sections on payment contained the same refrain: No insurance. No money.

    Comment by Sammy Finkelman (c720af) — 12/2/2013 @ 3:16 pm

  40. A spokeswoman for the Centers for Medicaid and Medicare Services said that some of the reductions in the subsidy should not hurt safety-net hospitals because states have discretion over how the money is distributed and should be focusing on hospitals with the most uncompensated care. And while there is no special exception for states that did not expand Medicaid, federal officials have said they will revisit that in 2016.

    But experts and hospital administrators said it was unlikely that the federal government would make adjustments that would reward states that refused to expand Medicaid. And the health care landscape is changing so rapidly, they say, that the subsidies are crucial to keep going over the next few years.

    Hospitals in Georgia are trying to hang on. Rural hospitals rely heavily on the subsidies and as many as 15 could close in the coming months, their trade association estimated, costing jobs in economically depressed parts of the state.

    Comment by Sammy Finkelman (c720af) — 12/2/2013 @ 3:18 pm

  41. Sammy, how far did you did dig, to find the pony, here, and how many clothespins,

    Comment by narciso (3fec35) — 12/2/2013 @ 3:26 pm

  42. I’m curious about what states with big populations of illegal immigrants are going to do, and that’s not just the border states anymore.

    DRJ, rest assured that the advocates for illegal immigrants and their media sympathizers have already begun the campaign to have illegals qualify for ObamaCare benefits. I will lay 3 to 1 odds that shortly after the 2014 midterm elections President Obama calls for amending ObamaCare to allow illegals to qualify for subsidies.

    Comment by JVW (709bc7) — 12/2/2013 @ 4:21 pm

  43. “Media outlets haven’t done much to be of service,” Waldman complains. He quotes Timothy Noah, a like-minded journalist, who moans: “The New York Times has published the URL for the New York exchange exactly twice, both before October first.” By the way, the URL for the New York exchange is . . . nah, we’re not going to do it. Take that, Waldman.

    Comment by narciso (3fec35) — 12/2/2013 @ 4:57 pm

  44. CBS News reported tonight that 375.000 people were able to log on to healthcare.gov

    They said that it couild handle 50,000 users at one time, but it actually sent people into a queue (where they are supposed to wait for an e-mail in orderr to continue) at a point when it had only 35,000 users.

    The people running the website explained that they wnated to have a smoother user experience.

    CBS followed the cae of a black woman in miami who had the assistance of a navigator – she could not do anything today.

    In the end, she filed a paper application and will fnd out what happened in a week or two.

    Of course that’s true also for those weho completed the process online, since the process doesn’t get any further than selection of a plan.

    Comment by Sammy Finkelman (c720af) — 12/2/2013 @ 5:18 pm

  45. I think the theory is that some people might fake their home address, like they do with auto insurance.

    Considering that the provider pools are similarly Balkanized in some plans, this might not be a good plan.

    Comment by Kevin M (536c5d) — 12/2/2013 @ 5:47 pm

  46. 44. …CBS followed the cae of a black woman in miami who had the assistance of a navigator – she could not do anything today.

    In the end, she filed a paper application and will fnd out what happened in a week or two.

    Of course that’s true also for those weho completed the process online, since the process doesn’t get any further than selection of a plan.

    Comment by Sammy Finkelman (c720af) — 12/2/2013 @ 5:18 pm

    I guess my earlier comment was close to the mark. They don’t need to add games so people don’t notice or care if it doesn’t work. The whole website is a game. Even though it won’t get you insurance, you can log on and play around on it. And the MFM won’t notice or care it doesn’t work.

    “See, 375,000 people played the Obamacare game today.”

    Plus it would get more traffic, so the skipper of the Titanic can announce more successes as the ship sinks.

    Comment by Steve57 (4f25e8) — 12/2/2013 @ 5:50 pm

  47. I think the theory is that some people might fake their home address, like they do with auto insurance.

    However, there are situations where you would lie about your address — or move — to get a better plan available, not so much to cut costs.

    The WSJ cancer survivor, for example, pointed out that the available plans in her CA insurance district (mostly by county) did not include the doctors who had been keeping her alive. Other plans did, but they were not available where she lived. I will bet $1000 against a jelly doughnut that she establishes an official address in the right district in order to keep her doctor network.

    Comment by Kevin M (536c5d) — 12/2/2013 @ 5:55 pm

  48. They’ve gone all Hunger Games with the district system, leaning more toward District 12, then the Capital.

    Comment by narciso (3fec35) — 12/2/2013 @ 6:12 pm

  49. Hunpty Dumpty won’t be put together;

    http://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2013/12/02/your-obamacare-fail-of-the-day-16/

    Comment by narciso (3fec35) — 12/2/2013 @ 6:36 pm

  50. Did anyone watch the video? Very funny. I wonder if the moderator was serious or knew her audience would laugh at her request.

    I think she was serious because she turned off the video. But then again it did get posted on line.

    Comment by AZ Bob (ade845) — 12/2/2013 @ 6:54 pm

  51. it’s a trap!

    http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2nuhdg2&s=5

    Comment by redc1c4 (abd49e) — 12/2/2013 @ 7:18 pm

  52. Or Menendez’s case, dragging that underage Dominican girl you paid good coin for through the door of your hotel room by her hair.

    Comment by Bugg (f0dbc7) — 12/2/2013 @ 7:26 pm

  53. I wonder if the moderator was serious or knew her audience would laugh at her request.

    I think she’s being sarcastic — and rightly so — about Obamacare and the “president.”

    It would have been more more of a hoot if she were an earnest, devout (yet ultimately, in too many cases, phony-baloney) liberal trying to elicit respect for the policies and politicians she embraces.

    Comment by Mark (58ea35) — 12/2/2013 @ 7:56 pm

  54. These are not the drones you are looking for.

    Comment by Ag80 (eb6ffa) — 12/2/2013 @ 8:39 pm

  55. maybe these ones are even more better than the drones I was looking for

    it’s serendipity!

    Comment by happyfeet (8ce051) — 12/2/2013 @ 8:46 pm

  56. 53. I wonder if the moderator was serious or knew her audience would laugh at her request.

    I think she’s being sarcastic — and rightly so — about Obamacare and the “president.”

    It would have been more more of a hoot if she were an earnest, devout (yet ultimately, in too many cases, phony-baloney) liberal trying to elicit respect for the policies and politicians she embraces.

    Comment by Mark (58ea35) — 12/2/2013 @ 7:56 pm

    I read somewhere (forget where; I checked but it wasn’t Ace) that the lady was serious, but the guy who video’d it knew how his conservative family would react to the liberal relative when she gave “the talk.” So he offered to video it. Then posted it on line.

    Comment by Steve57 (4f25e8) — 12/2/2013 @ 8:54 pm

  57. I feel like a visionary. I’ve been calling Obama President Tiger Beat for how many years now? Today Mark Steyn has this up at NRO:

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/365307/tiger-beat-white-house-beat-who-can-tell-mark-steyn

    PS My headline is a bit unfair on Tiger Beat: Unlike the AP, their “Obama: I sing in the shower!” cover turned out to be an Onion parody.

    Comment by Steve57 (4f25e8) — 12/2/2013 @ 9:12 pm

  58. Even the 50,000 simul users claims from the White House is a lie:

    “Which sounds sort of like the White House’s assurances that a top quality “private sector velocity” team was working on fixing the frontend of the site, and had gotten it up to full functionality by this weekend — able to handle 50,000 visitors at a time. Yet HHS admitted today on a conference call that the website was slowing down and rejecting people when it reached just 35,000 users.”

    Comment by SPQR (768505) — 12/2/2013 @ 9:37 pm

  59. There is no truth to the rumor that the website is using old Pac Man software.

    Comment by Patricia (be0117) — 12/2/2013 @ 10:18 pm

  60. SPQR, if “private sector velocity” is the standard to go by, then can you ‘spain why are we putting the bloated inefficient public sector in charge of health care?

    This administration says lots of stupid stuff. If you want “private sector velocity,” then give the damn thin to the private sector.

    If I were in the MFM I’d be making hay out of this until March. But then there’s a reason I’m not in the MFM. And why they’re the MFM.

    Comment by Steve57 (4f25e8) — 12/2/2013 @ 10:48 pm

  61. Actually if you watch the video on YouTube it’s the first comment.

    Joan Nelson 1 day ago

    I took this video because “I” knew what my liberal relative was going to try to do and I knew how my unsuspecting consevative family was going to react. I just had to capture the moment on video! Btw, that’s really how my sister laughs…hence, we don’t tell her jokes much. Sorry about the potrait view, didn’t know I would post it.

    Comment by Steve57 (4f25e8) — 12/3/2013 @ 12:29 am

  62. they are patching up Humpty Dumpty with tape;

    http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/12/02/3793155/healthcaregov-improved-but-south.html

    Comment by narciso (3fec35) — 12/3/2013 @ 5:36 am

  63. Yes, turtles all the way down

    http://washingtonexaminer.com/insurers-still-reporting-significant-problems-with-obamacare-enrollment-data/article/2540044

    Comment by narciso (3fec35) — 12/3/2013 @ 5:51 am

  64. 63. The GOP is “positively giddy” polls are now giving them north of +5 in generic contests.

    Meanwhile, 11 former physicians are running in those primaries. We shall see if any earn RNC endorsements.

    Another ill portent:

    http://minx.cc/?post=345398

    Sooner or later the low-information classes find the targets bullseye inching into their crosshairs.

    Unexpectedly!!!

    Comment by gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 12/3/2013 @ 6:40 am

  65. Frank Abagnale would be inpressed;

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/101225308

    Comment by narciso (3fec35) — 12/3/2013 @ 6:46 am

  66. it appears that security considerations were NOT part of the design parameters…

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/12/269821/

    whoopsie!

    Comment by redc1c4 (abd49e) — 12/3/2013 @ 6:48 am

  67. Oh crap.

    http://minx.cc/?post=345395

    The appendage to Sen. Klobuchar’s derriere sounds like an absolute legume in his recorded messages to constituents.

    Hope the subtarded MN GOP lets challenger Julianne Ortman coast along under the customary benign neglect.

    Comment by gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 12/3/2013 @ 6:50 am

  68. interesting analysis on how & why Obamacare is fubar & built to stay that way…

    http://andstillipersist.com/2013/12/obamacare-and-healthcare-gov-how-we-got-here/

    Comment by redc1c4 (abd49e) — 12/3/2013 @ 7:01 am

  69. Note to Binyamihn:

    Our putative CiC will be, in the months ahead, making a pilgrimage to Tehran and Qom.

    Await disembarkation before launch.

    Comment by gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 12/3/2013 @ 7:15 am

  70. 68. That’s right. There are a lot of parallels between legislation and software.

    In fact, they are even both called “programs.”

    Comment by Sammy Finkelman (bcd7c8) — 12/3/2013 @ 7:31 am

  71. 70. Sanity check for future and self-described ‘leaders’.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/191644-gop-strategist-reagan-is-dead-party-must-move-on

    When you look over your shoulder, you see people following, intent on your goal–not sinking a blade into your 5th cervical vertebra.

    Comment by gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 12/3/2013 @ 7:34 am

  72. Comment by SPQR (768505) — 12/2/2013 @ 9:37 pm

    able to handle 50,000 visitors at a time. Yet HHS admitted today on a conference call that the website was slowing down and rejecting people when it reached just 35,000 users.” </i.

    Not a lie. A half truth. The website was able, to handle 50,000 users at one time, but the managers were not willing to do so.

    Because after about 35,000 users, it slowed down.

    They decided they’d rather have people not be able to use the site altogether, than use it and wait for pages to load.

    Comment by Sammy Finkelman (bcd7c8) — 12/3/2013 @ 7:36 am

  73. Brit Hume used the website before Fox News Sunday went on. He said he was not able to find one plan for his wife that included her doctors, although he did later find a platinum plan at ehealthinsurance.com.

    Comment by Sammy Finkelman (bcd7c8) — 12/3/2013 @ 7:39 am

  74. Keep in mind that the wonderful, beautiful ACA (aka Obamacare) will be enforced by the wonderful, beautiful IRS.

    washingtontimes.com via drudgereport.com: The House’s chief investigator says the FBI is stonewalling his inquiry into whether the agency and the Internal Revenue Service targeted conservative group True the Vote for special scrutiny, and Rep. Darrell E. Issa is now threatening subpoenas to pry loose the information from FBI Director James B. Comey Jr.

    Mr. Issa, California Republican, and Rep. Jim Jordan, Ohio Republican, are leading the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee’s IRS inquiry. They also said the FBI is refusing to turn over any documents related to its own investigation into the IRS, which began in the days after an auditor’s report revealed the tax agency had improperly targeted tea party groups for special scrutiny.

    Six months after it began, the FBI’s investigation has resulted in no release of information. The congressmen said the FBI even rescinded an offer for an in-person briefing with the assistant director in charge of the investigation. The reversal, after the FBI consulted with the Justice Department, suggests political meddling, the two investigators said.

    “The department’s tactics have impeded a congressional investigation and interfered with the committee’s access to documents and information. Obstructing a congressional investigation is a crime,” Mr. Issa and Mr. Jordan said in their letter to Mr. Comey, warning that if they don’t get the information they will use “compulsory” means.

    ^ With the FBI now apparently as corrupt as the Nidal-Hasan-ized US military — and who knows what the hell is going on with the NSA, etc — welcome to the world’s newest, biggest banana republic! Pretty soon, Argentina, France and Venezuela won’t have nothing on us.

    Comment by Mark (58ea35) — 12/3/2013 @ 7:44 am

  75. Well anyone who still carries the McCain campaign as a credential, and ignores the only motivating part of it, facepalm.

    Comment by narciso (3fec35) — 12/3/2013 @ 7:44 am

  76. Here’s someone to follow:

    http://allenbwest.com/2013/12/ill-tell/

    Comment by gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 12/3/2013 @ 7:55 am

  77. ABC News Dec 2: New Obamacare Headache: Is Your Enrollment Real?

    Comment by Sammy Finkelman (3bb3ae) — 12/3/2013 @ 10:34 am

  78. he did later find a platinum plan at ehealthinsurance.com.

    Some insurers are offering compliant plans off the exchanges. These plans are not eligible for subsidies however. For a number of reasons, no subsidies is a good thing to insurers, as a more affluent pool is statistically healthier and less inclined to scams.

    Comment by Kevin M (536c5d) — 12/3/2013 @ 12:27 pm

  79. 66. it appears that security considerations were NOT part of the design parameters…

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/12/269821/

    whoopsie!

    Comment by redc1c4 (abd49e) — 12/3/2013 @ 6:48 am

    I see the genius construction crew at Obama & Sebelius Health Care contractors knew enough about building a website to know it had to have a nice looking exterior and landscaping, but they didn’t know they needed to put in the septic system a looong time ago.

    By the way, pet peeve. The Obama admin and the lapdog media keep telling us the website works but the “back end” doesn’t.

    Hello! If the “back end” doesn’t work you don’t have a website. If you went to Orbitz and could go through the motions of buying a ticket, but payments don’t go through and the airline has no record of you buying a ticket, would you say Orbitz has a website?

    And what would you think if Orbitz had to hire tens of thousands of “Orbitz navigators” to help you buy that ticket?

    Comment by Steve57 (4f25e8) — 12/3/2013 @ 12:38 pm

  80. #80: Best Spam Poast E\/aH!

    even after Usenet, i have to say that is a sig file keeper.

    Comment by redc1c4 (abd49e) — 12/4/2013 @ 1:49 am

  81. Comment by Steve57 (4f25e8) — 12/3/2013 @ 12:38 pm

    If you went to Orbitz and could go through the motions of buying a ticket, but payments don’t go through and the airline has no record of you buying a ticket, would you say Orbitz has a website?

    I think many years ago there used to be many websites like that.

    There still is a record of an application or order, and they can always print it out and fax it, or put it in the mail.

    Not one stop shopping, but a website.

    Comment by Sammy Finkelman (3bb3ae) — 12/6/2013 @ 11:54 am

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