FIXED!!!!!!!!1!!11!!
Here’s a quote from a guy who doesn’t quite get it:
“This is the equivalent of having a great item that you want to buy in the store but not being able to get though the front door,” Sen. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.) said on CBS’s “Face The Nation.” “It sounds like the front door has been opened successfully now.”
Yay! Too bad they, um, haven’t built the cash registers yet.
We’re not laughing with you, Mr. Obama. We’re . . . oh, just take a look:
Ding.
Patterico (9c670f) — 12/2/2013 @ 7:43 amobamacare is a rip-off
they’re just trying to trick you into paying for free healthcare for filthy foodstampers
no thank you
happyfeet (8ce051) — 12/2/2013 @ 7:46 amMaybe the liberals can fix Obamacare with another headline or fancy title on a bill. Perhaps the “Making Obamacare Work Act” could patch things right up.
DejectedHead (a094a6) — 12/2/2013 @ 8:02 amDumb broad. She’s given Obama a “hateful” video he’s been waiting for. Now Sebelius can go on five Sunday talk shows and claim the rollout failure wasn’t due to the fact that Healthcare.gov didn’t fail because it’s code consists entirely of the stuxnet virus. No, it failed because of an anti-Obamacare video.
I hope she doesn’t have any outstanding parole/probation violations or she’ll see the inside of a prison cell. If not, I hope she enjoys her next tax audit.
Steve57 (4f25e8) — 12/2/2013 @ 8:05 amDejectedhead @3, maybe if they just added games to the site people wouldn’t notice it doesn’t work. Plus it would get more traffic, so the skipper of the Titanic can announce more successes as the ship sinks.
I have a game to nominate.
http://www.box10.com/falling-obama.html
Steve57 (4f25e8) — 12/2/2013 @ 8:14 amI have to admit, with the hot camera on Il Douche he can be a decent moderator of community organization meetups.
I also trust implicitly that he fellates with the best of the rest among Crack Whores.
But this joke of a website is just cumming in his face. He loves it; it’s his piece de resistance. This useless ph*ck has never blushed in his life.
gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 12/2/2013 @ 8:36 amBaby steps, people!!!
Colonel Haiku (69d3b6) — 12/2/2013 @ 8:36 amhe so nasty
happyfeet (8ce051) — 12/2/2013 @ 8:40 amhttp://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/02/business/white-house-praises-gains-on-health-site.html?hp&_r=1&&pagewanted=all
When I read that New York Times article
I realized that the work-around of making aggregate payments of the government portion of the premiums to the insurance companies didn’t solve the problem, because the insurance companies still wouldn’t know what to bill people individually.
That’s only a work-around of the government payment system. They still have the billing problem.
Sammy Finkelman (c720af) — 12/2/2013 @ 9:43 amhttp://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/10/13/us/how-the-federal-exchange-is-supposed-to-work-and-how-it-didnt.html?ref=business
This doesn’t list all the problems.
For instance, some people have difficulty verifying that they are who they say they are.
People with problems are supposed to be able to fax or mail copies of driver’s licenses, Social Security cards or voter registration cards, but they all just go into a waiting list for processing.
Sammy Finkelman (c720af) — 12/2/2013 @ 9:48 amIn late November a (leaked) document said problems included people being told they are eligible for subsidies when they are not, enrollment notices sent to insurers missing the non-subsidized portion of the bill the customer is supposed to pay, or the amount of the government’s responsibility, and/or the identification number.
Some people found eligible for a 100% subsidy had their enrollment blocked.
In other cases the information needed to calculate the estimated subsidy – because it is only an estimate which is corrected come April 2015 – was not retrieved.
Sammy Finkelman (c720af) — 12/2/2013 @ 9:55 amThis is only the smallest p[art of the problem.
The biggest problem is with what the law itself does.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/29/us/lack-of-doctors-may-worsen-as-millions-join-medicaid-rolls.html?pagewanted=all
Last five paragraphs:
Dr. Urrea persisted, so he managed to get an appointment for the patient, but you see the problem.
Sammy Finkelman (c720af) — 12/2/2013 @ 10:00 amThe Drudge headline says Obama wants to visit Tehran next year. There are no words for this kind of stupidity.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 12/2/2013 @ 10:17 am“For instance, some people have difficulty verifying that they are who they say they are.”
Sammy – Why is the verification a problem of the people using the website rather than the problem of the people who created the website? Once again you have the issue bass ackwards.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 12/2/2013 @ 10:21 am“The biggest problem is with what the law itself does.”
Sammy – Nothing new here. This was all pointed out repeatedly before the bill was passed and ignored. Move along.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 12/2/2013 @ 10:25 amAs Nixon reached out to China, so Obama goes Full Mullah…
Colonel Haiku (69d3b6) — 12/2/2013 @ 10:30 amThe Drudge headline says Obama wants to visit Tehran next year
I have no problem with him going…
Kevin M (536c5d) — 12/2/2013 @ 10:34 am“For instance, some people have difficulty verifying that they are who they say they are.”
14. Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 12/2/2013 @ 10:21 am
Sammy – Why is the verification a problem of the people using the website rather than the problem of the people who created the website? Once again you have the issue bass ackwards.
I mean people have a problem using the website. That’s not their problem.
But this is not really so much a problem with the website, as it is with their procedures for preventing impersonation.
It’s basically been contracted out to Experian, which has come up with a bunch of test questions based on your credit report, if there is one.
I don’t think they even do what PayPal did at the start, or what banks do – test deposits to your checking account (if there is one, of course, but if there isn’t one you couldn’t use PayPal or online banking anyway.)
Customer service was supposed to handle people who didn’t make it through the verification, but that got hopelessly backlogged.
They didn’t plan on people failing the verification. Another piece of stupidity.
The verification is really tough because they don’t want people faking their address to get cheaper insurance.
Sammy Finkelman (c720af) — 12/2/2013 @ 10:35 amReports I see are that the website is ALL front end. You can’t set up an account, you can’t communicate your choices to insurers and you can’t pay for anything.
All you can do is window shop, and the prices in the window all say “Starting at…”
Kevin M (536c5d) — 12/2/2013 @ 10:37 am“But this is not really so much a problem with the website, as it is with their procedures for preventing impersonation.”
Sammy – Since you have described people mailing documentation to insurers to prove who they are, the issue does not seem to be one of preventing identity theft, but needless complexity built into the system.
Ask yourself why somebody would want to impersonate somebody else to actually pay for a product when the impersonation would likely be discovered upon the first use of the product? I don’t think so.
I think it’s more like a function of needless data gathering and complexity built into the system.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 12/2/2013 @ 10:50 am“The verification is really tough because they don’t want people faking their address to get cheaper insurance.”
Sammy – So your theory is that they need to fake the identity of a dead person who does not need insurance after researching areas where insurance is cheaper?
That must be it.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 12/2/2013 @ 10:54 amDaley,
I do think there is a danger of fictitious and otherwise fraudulent accounts, with the goal being to create income streams for dodgy providers. The fraud in the first year, particularly from “clients” with little or no medical history, is going to be awesome.
Kevin M (536c5d) — 12/2/2013 @ 10:59 amWhen it comes to registering to vote and voting, the Obama Administration was all alert to the possibility that some people might not pass the verification tests, but when it came to healthcare.gov – that didn’t matter – they just assumed it would take care of itself. Or Experian would take care if it.
Here is the Experian help page:
http://www.experian.com/help/health-insurance-marketplace-verification.html
Any person with a frozen credit file will have to temporarily unfreeze it if they want to do it online, but they ab still do it by telephone to Experian. For children, remember to use an adult’s information. Use the address connected with banking and utility bills. Write down your reference code (and the special telephone number) you get at healthcare.gov so you can call and tell it to Experian.
If something physical is needed, like a copy of a document or documents, that process is backlogged.
Healthcare.gov will tell people they need to submit documents but maybe that’s not true. Uploading a picture of documents, as the site tells people to do, is just a way to get into limbo, becase they apparently don’t have enough people to review them.
The right way to do it is to call Experian, but they need their reference number. Once having failed to note it down, there are apparently no easily findable instructions as to how to get it, if it is possible at all, except maybe to start the whole process all over again with a different User ID and password.
About 10% of the people who attempt to register are experiencing problems with getting verified:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/26/us/id-verification-lagging-on-health-care-website.html
Sammy Finkelman (c720af) — 12/2/2013 @ 11:00 amwhat a nightmare
happyfeet (c60db2) — 12/2/2013 @ 11:18 am“I do think there is a danger of fictitious and otherwise fraudulent accounts, with the goal being to create income streams for dodgy providers.”
Kevin M – I agree except to the extent of the exchanges where providers I believe had to receive a seal of approval from either the state or federal government to participate.
Away from the exchanges I see the possibility of many “hip-pocket” brokers or insurers being created to dupe consumers by collecting cash and claiming to provide coverage.
This is different than normal fraud scams because it requires consumers to send cash to the government or an insurer instead of the reverse.
Also, you keep raising the point of people participating who have never had insurance before and I have never seen and statistics on that group before if any are available. I recall carving up Obama’s original 48 million uninsured figure down to 7 million uninsured by stripping away illegal immigrants, those eligible for medicaid or medicare who had not signed up, those eligible for COBRA, and those able to purchase insurance in the private market but electing not to do it. The 7 million individuals represented those with preexisting health conditions typically shut out of the private insurance market who could have purchased insurance in existing state high risk pools or pools created by Obamacare which did not exhaust themselves to my knowledge. The issue there has always been cost, first and foremost.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 12/2/2013 @ 11:20 amComment by DRJ (a83b8b) — 12/2/2013 @ 10:17 am
Yes, there are:
Progressive denial of reality fantasies.
askeptic (b8ab92) — 12/2/2013 @ 11:33 amNow, to expand upon Kevin @ 17, if we can only figure out a way to totally piss-off the Mullah’s enough to keep him there.
askeptic (b8ab92) — 12/2/2013 @ 11:35 amNational Soros Radio is very eager for you to understand how deeply deeply racist these Republicans are
This is why we pay taxes. For so National Soros Radio can help you to understand how deeply deeply racist these Republicans are
http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2013/12/02/248209405/rnc-tweet-reinforces-hard-to-shake-gop-stereotype
Indeed, from voter ID to immigration, the party is widely viewed as hostile to minority voters.
Indeed, from voter ID to immigration, the party is widely viewed as hostile to minority voters.
Indeed, from voter ID to immigration, the party is widely viewed as hostile to minority voters.
happyfeet (c60db2) — 12/2/2013 @ 12:38 pmI’m surprised that Obama hasn’t ordered the insurance carriers to provide insurance and worry about the premiums and payment later.
rochf (f3fbb0) — 12/2/2013 @ 12:50 pmHe’ll do that when they discover, in the pages of the NYT/WaPo, that the back-office of the website is unfixable.
askeptic (b8ab92) — 12/2/2013 @ 1:15 pm“Front door”??? Menendez was a back door man down in teh DR…
Colonel Haiku (69d3b6) — 12/2/2013 @ 1:16 pmThe 7 million individuals represented those with preexisting health conditions typically shut out of the private insurance market
yes. shut out by price or sloth. Also, many such persons are of low income (this is strongly correlated with being sick), but some will be in the Medicaid pool instead.
The way Obamacare is structured, the individual pool now contains additional persons nearly ALL of whom drive up the average price (people who are uninsured have pent up demand even if they aren’t that sick). This scares the bejeezus out of insurers and has driven the rates for the incumbent members of the individual policy pool through the roof.
Kevin M (536c5d) — 12/2/2013 @ 1:51 pmRasmussen:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/generic_congressional_ballot
Kevin M (536c5d) — 12/2/2013 @ 1:58 pmUnaffordable Potemkin Act
Colonel Haiku (69d3b6) — 12/2/2013 @ 2:44 pmComment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 12/2/2013 @ 10:54 am
Sammy – So your theory is that they need to fake the identity of a dead person who does not need insurance after researching areas where insurance is cheaper?
I think the theory is that some people might fake their home address, like they do with auto insurance.
I am suspicious that that may be also why they wanted people to create an account and log-in before being able to browse, so they wouldn’t discover that if, say, they lived 60 miles away in ne direction, their insurance would be a lot cheaper.
They didn’t want people faking their address because that would throw off the insurance companies’ calculations.
Now, one drawback to using a different address is that so many of the policies on the exchange have narrow networks, with limited geographical reach.
Sammy Finkelman (c720af) — 12/2/2013 @ 2:58 pmI’m curious about what states with big populations of illegal immigrants are going to do, and that’s not just the border states anymore.
For instance, illegal immigrants can’t get insurance but they will still be entitled to emergency health care — and that includes a lot of services in most states. Things like pediatric care, even for routine illnesses, are provided and so is long-term care for cancer, heart disease, etc. Most communities provide care through county/charitable hospitals and community-funded clinics.
How can the hospitals (especially) live up to the ObamaCare funding restrictions and still provide that care? It’s obviously coming out of the taxpayers’ wallets but I have a feeling there will be federal penalties, not subsidies, for costs like these.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 12/2/2013 @ 3:01 pm29. Comment by rochf (f3fbb0) — 12/2/2013 @ 12:50 pm
I’m surprised that Obama hasn’t ordered the insurance carriers to provide insurance and worry about the premiums and payment later.
He can’t order them to do that. Maybe he requested it, but there was pushback.
The insurance companies won’t consider anyone covered until they pay the first month’s premium.
I think the law provides a grace period after that. If someone stops paying, the government cover the first unpaid month, and the company must absorb the next two months before terminating the policy.
This is, I guess, supposed to encourage the insurance companies to try to collect the money.
Of course, there is a problem is figuring out what an individual’s payment is supposed to be, in the case of anyone claiming to be eligible for a subsidy.
They sort of took care of the government’s portion of the payment by agreeing to pay an estimated total to each insurance company.
In any case the policy will be in effect and the federal government is probably good for the money, once they can figure out what they owe.
The part of the website that tells the companies what they are going to pay – it issues 834 enrollment notices – is not working properly.
And the part to actually manage the payments and tie it to individual insurance policies hasn’t yet been written. (but as I said they can at least come up with an approximate total due to each insurance company.)
Sammy Finkelman (c720af) — 12/2/2013 @ 3:12 pmhttp://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/09/health/cuts-in-hospital-subsidies-threaten-safety-net-care.html
Sammy Finkelman (c720af) — 12/2/2013 @ 3:14 pmThat should be:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/09/health/cuts-in-hospital-subsidies-threaten-safety-net-care.html?pagewanted=all
Sammy Finkelman (c720af) — 12/2/2013 @ 3:16 pmSammy, how far did you did dig, to find the pony, here, and how many clothespins,
narciso (3fec35) — 12/2/2013 @ 3:26 pmI’m curious about what states with big populations of illegal immigrants are going to do, and that’s not just the border states anymore.
DRJ, rest assured that the advocates for illegal immigrants and their media sympathizers have already begun the campaign to have illegals qualify for ObamaCare benefits. I will lay 3 to 1 odds that shortly after the 2014 midterm elections President Obama calls for amending ObamaCare to allow illegals to qualify for subsidies.
JVW (709bc7) — 12/2/2013 @ 4:21 pm“Media outlets haven’t done much to be of service,” Waldman complains. He quotes Timothy Noah, a like-minded journalist, who moans: “The New York Times has published the URL for the New York exchange exactly twice, both before October first.” By the way, the URL for the New York exchange is . . . nah, we’re not going to do it. Take that, Waldman.
narciso (3fec35) — 12/2/2013 @ 4:57 pmCBS News reported tonight that 375.000 people were able to log on to healthcare.gov
They said that it couild handle 50,000 users at one time, but it actually sent people into a queue (where they are supposed to wait for an e-mail in orderr to continue) at a point when it had only 35,000 users.
The people running the website explained that they wnated to have a smoother user experience.
CBS followed the cae of a black woman in miami who had the assistance of a navigator – she could not do anything today.
In the end, she filed a paper application and will fnd out what happened in a week or two.
Of course that’s true also for those weho completed the process online, since the process doesn’t get any further than selection of a plan.
Sammy Finkelman (c720af) — 12/2/2013 @ 5:18 pmI think the theory is that some people might fake their home address, like they do with auto insurance.
Considering that the provider pools are similarly Balkanized in some plans, this might not be a good plan.
Kevin M (536c5d) — 12/2/2013 @ 5:47 pmI guess my earlier comment was close to the mark. They don’t need to add games so people don’t notice or care if it doesn’t work. The whole website is a game. Even though it won’t get you insurance, you can log on and play around on it. And the MFM won’t notice or care it doesn’t work.
“See, 375,000 people played the Obamacare game today.”
Steve57 (4f25e8) — 12/2/2013 @ 5:50 pmI think the theory is that some people might fake their home address, like they do with auto insurance.
However, there are situations where you would lie about your address — or move — to get a better plan available, not so much to cut costs.
The WSJ cancer survivor, for example, pointed out that the available plans in her CA insurance district (mostly by county) did not include the doctors who had been keeping her alive. Other plans did, but they were not available where she lived. I will bet $1000 against a jelly doughnut that she establishes an official address in the right district in order to keep her doctor network.
Kevin M (536c5d) — 12/2/2013 @ 5:55 pmThey’ve gone all Hunger Games with the district system, leaning more toward District 12, then the Capital.
narciso (3fec35) — 12/2/2013 @ 6:12 pmHunpty Dumpty won’t be put together;
http://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2013/12/02/your-obamacare-fail-of-the-day-16/
narciso (3fec35) — 12/2/2013 @ 6:36 pmDid anyone watch the video? Very funny. I wonder if the moderator was serious or knew her audience would laugh at her request.
I think she was serious because she turned off the video. But then again it did get posted on line.
AZ Bob (ade845) — 12/2/2013 @ 6:54 pmit’s a trap!
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2nuhdg2&s=5
redc1c4 (abd49e) — 12/2/2013 @ 7:18 pmOr Menendez’s case, dragging that underage Dominican girl you paid good coin for through the door of your hotel room by her hair.
Bugg (f0dbc7) — 12/2/2013 @ 7:26 pmI wonder if the moderator was serious or knew her audience would laugh at her request.
I think she’s being sarcastic — and rightly so — about Obamacare and the “president.”
It would have been more more of a hoot if she were an earnest, devout (yet ultimately, in too many cases, phony-baloney) liberal trying to elicit respect for the policies and politicians she embraces.
Mark (58ea35) — 12/2/2013 @ 7:56 pmThese are not the drones you are looking for.
Ag80 (eb6ffa) — 12/2/2013 @ 8:39 pmmaybe these ones are even more better than the drones I was looking for
it’s serendipity!
happyfeet (8ce051) — 12/2/2013 @ 8:46 pmI read somewhere (forget where; I checked but it wasn’t Ace) that the lady was serious, but the guy who video’d it knew how his conservative family would react to the liberal relative when she gave “the talk.” So he offered to video it. Then posted it on line.
Steve57 (4f25e8) — 12/2/2013 @ 8:54 pmI feel like a visionary. I’ve been calling Obama President Tiger Beat for how many years now? Today Mark Steyn has this up at NRO:
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/365307/tiger-beat-white-house-beat-who-can-tell-mark-steyn
Steve57 (4f25e8) — 12/2/2013 @ 9:12 pmEven the 50,000 simul users claims from the White House is a lie:
“Which sounds sort of like the White House’s assurances that a top quality “private sector velocity” team was working on fixing the frontend of the site, and had gotten it up to full functionality by this weekend — able to handle 50,000 visitors at a time. Yet HHS admitted today on a conference call that the website was slowing down and rejecting people when it reached just 35,000 users.”
SPQR (768505) — 12/2/2013 @ 9:37 pmThere is no truth to the rumor that the website is using old Pac Man software.
Patricia (be0117) — 12/2/2013 @ 10:18 pmSPQR, if “private sector velocity” is the standard to go by, then can you ‘spain why are we putting the bloated inefficient public sector in charge of health care?
This administration says lots of stupid stuff. If you want “private sector velocity,” then give the damn thin to the private sector.
If I were in the MFM I’d be making hay out of this until March. But then there’s a reason I’m not in the MFM. And why they’re the MFM.
Steve57 (4f25e8) — 12/2/2013 @ 10:48 pmActually if you watch the video on YouTube it’s the first comment.
Steve57 (4f25e8) — 12/3/2013 @ 12:29 amthey are patching up Humpty Dumpty with tape;
http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/12/02/3793155/healthcaregov-improved-but-south.html
narciso (3fec35) — 12/3/2013 @ 5:36 amYes, turtles all the way down
http://washingtonexaminer.com/insurers-still-reporting-significant-problems-with-obamacare-enrollment-data/article/2540044
narciso (3fec35) — 12/3/2013 @ 5:51 am63. The GOP is “positively giddy” polls are now giving them north of +5 in generic contests.
Meanwhile, 11 former physicians are running in those primaries. We shall see if any earn RNC endorsements.
Another ill portent:
http://minx.cc/?post=345398
Sooner or later the low-information classes find the targets bullseye inching into their crosshairs.
Unexpectedly!!!
gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 12/3/2013 @ 6:40 amFrank Abagnale would be inpressed;
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101225308
narciso (3fec35) — 12/3/2013 @ 6:46 amit appears that security considerations were NOT part of the design parameters…
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/12/269821/
whoopsie!
redc1c4 (abd49e) — 12/3/2013 @ 6:48 amOh crap.
http://minx.cc/?post=345395
The appendage to Sen. Klobuchar’s derriere sounds like an absolute legume in his recorded messages to constituents.
Hope the subtarded MN GOP lets challenger Julianne Ortman coast along under the customary benign neglect.
gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 12/3/2013 @ 6:50 aminteresting analysis on how & why Obamacare is fubar & built to stay that way…
http://andstillipersist.com/2013/12/obamacare-and-healthcare-gov-how-we-got-here/
redc1c4 (abd49e) — 12/3/2013 @ 7:01 amNote to Binyamihn:
Our putative CiC will be, in the months ahead, making a pilgrimage to Tehran and Qom.
Await disembarkation before launch.
gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 12/3/2013 @ 7:15 am68. That’s right. There are a lot of parallels between legislation and software.
In fact, they are even both called “programs.”
Sammy Finkelman (bcd7c8) — 12/3/2013 @ 7:31 am70. Sanity check for future and self-described ‘leaders’.
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/191644-gop-strategist-reagan-is-dead-party-must-move-on
When you look over your shoulder, you see people following, intent on your goal–not sinking a blade into your 5th cervical vertebra.
gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 12/3/2013 @ 7:34 amComment by SPQR (768505) — 12/2/2013 @ 9:37 pm
able to handle 50,000 visitors at a time. Yet HHS admitted today on a conference call that the website was slowing down and rejecting people when it reached just 35,000 users.” </i.
Not a lie. A half truth. The website was able, to handle 50,000 users at one time, but the managers were not willing to do so.
Because after about 35,000 users, it slowed down.
They decided they’d rather have people not be able to use the site altogether, than use it and wait for pages to load.
Sammy Finkelman (bcd7c8) — 12/3/2013 @ 7:36 amBrit Hume used the website before Fox News Sunday went on. He said he was not able to find one plan for his wife that included her doctors, although he did later find a platinum plan at ehealthinsurance.com.
Sammy Finkelman (bcd7c8) — 12/3/2013 @ 7:39 amKeep in mind that the wonderful, beautiful ACA (aka Obamacare) will be enforced by the wonderful, beautiful IRS.
^ With the FBI now apparently as corrupt as the Nidal-Hasan-ized US military — and who knows what the hell is going on with the NSA, etc — welcome to the world’s newest, biggest banana republic! Pretty soon, Argentina, France and Venezuela won’t have nothing on us.
Mark (58ea35) — 12/3/2013 @ 7:44 amWell anyone who still carries the McCain campaign as a credential, and ignores the only motivating part of it, facepalm.
narciso (3fec35) — 12/3/2013 @ 7:44 amHere’s someone to follow:
http://allenbwest.com/2013/12/ill-tell/
gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 12/3/2013 @ 7:55 amABC News Dec 2: New Obamacare Headache: Is Your Enrollment Real?
Sammy Finkelman (3bb3ae) — 12/3/2013 @ 10:34 amhe did later find a platinum plan at ehealthinsurance.com.
Some insurers are offering compliant plans off the exchanges. These plans are not eligible for subsidies however. For a number of reasons, no subsidies is a good thing to insurers, as a more affluent pool is statistically healthier and less inclined to scams.
Kevin M (536c5d) — 12/3/2013 @ 12:27 pmI see the genius construction crew at Obama & Sebelius Health Care contractors knew enough about building a website to know it had to have a nice looking exterior and landscaping, but they didn’t know they needed to put in the septic system a looong time ago.
By the way, pet peeve. The Obama admin and the lapdog media keep telling us the website works but the “back end” doesn’t.
Hello! If the “back end” doesn’t work you don’t have a website. If you went to Orbitz and could go through the motions of buying a ticket, but payments don’t go through and the airline has no record of you buying a ticket, would you say Orbitz has a website?
And what would you think if Orbitz had to hire tens of thousands of “Orbitz navigators” to help you buy that ticket?
Steve57 (4f25e8) — 12/3/2013 @ 12:38 pm#80: Best Spam Poast E\/aH!
even after Usenet, i have to say that is a sig file keeper.
redc1c4 (abd49e) — 12/4/2013 @ 1:49 amComment by Steve57 (4f25e8) — 12/3/2013 @ 12:38 pm
If you went to Orbitz and could go through the motions of buying a ticket, but payments don’t go through and the airline has no record of you buying a ticket, would you say Orbitz has a website?
I think many years ago there used to be many websites like that.
There still is a record of an application or order, and they can always print it out and fax it, or put it in the mail.
Not one stop shopping, but a website.
Sammy Finkelman (3bb3ae) — 12/6/2013 @ 11:54 am