Patterico's Pontifications

9/2/2013

Ace Rants About . . . Something or Other

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 2:51 pm



tl;dr

25 Responses to “Ace Rants About . . . Something or Other”

  1. Could somebody give me the gist of it?

    Patterico (9c670f)

  2. I really had to laugh at that. The generation I teach is supposedly all about the electronic and social media and so forth. But I quickly found it was not quite like you read in WIRED.

    In fact, I make a joke of it: students won’t read more than a paragraph, or click more than twice, unless it is pR0n.

    It’s pretty true.

    Simon Jester (1a5c20)

  3. Well it appears that, (unlike here 🙂 ), Ace’s place has had a few commenters who dissed the host, were trying to monopolize and shape the the discussion, and were making life miserable for other commenters causing some of the gooduns to leave the site in frustration.

    That’s my take anyway.

    elissa (a7644f)

  4. Nobody would ever do that here

    JD (5c1832)

  5. the Reader’s Digest version: “My house, my rules. Don’t like it? GTFO.”

    i policy i whole-heartedly support, even when i disagree with the owner, such as on the late, used to be great, LGF.

    unless it’s your blog, you’re a guest. act accordingly. if you disapprove of their housekeeping, don’t visit.

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  6. Uh, no. TL;DR

    SPQR (0b1257)

  7. JD, my cabal would. In a NY minute if I snapped my fingers.

    SPQR (0b1257)

  8. Get off my lawn, sonny.

    bldrd (3a3a0b)

  9. Nobody would ever do that here

    Hahahahahahahahahahaha.

    Patterico (9c670f)

  10. I sympathize with Ace’s concerns but I’m not sure I agree. Some blogs are like the host’s online home — places intended to be private even though they are not actually restricted. At those blogs, people post family photos and content intended primarily for friends and family, and it’s understandable if they object when someone crosses the line of accepted decorum.

    Other blogs — like Ace’s and this blog — seem more like an online Cheers pub where people come and go and, in general, act as they please. Visitors can run the gamut from people who sample the wares and leave without saying much or anything … to well-known, long-term patrons who develop a camaraderie and rapport with each other and with the host.

    IMO there should be more tolerance regarding how people act at the pub blogs than the friend-and-family blogs, although I draw the line at behavior intended to hurt the business of the blog or the day job of its host. Those behaviors deserve the attention of a bouncer, and every good blog needs a good bouncer.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  11. It’s his blog, it’s his money. He’s entitled to set and enforce the commenting rules as he sees fit.

    aunursa (7014a8)

  12. I think his political stuff is very good but his cultural stuff is amazing. That’s why I read him!

    So yeah, I agree with him. It’s his place!

    Patricia (be0117)

  13. I visit several blogs on a weekly basis. Sometimes, I like what I find and sometimes I don’t. But it would never occur to me to criticize what the host wrote because I didn’t like it would prefer he wrote on another topic. Now, if I offered to commission a series of articles, that might be another thing. But I gather nobody has made that offer to Ace…

    Geez, if you don’t like it, go read something else, somewhere else…

    WarEagle82 (2b7355)

  14. Well,

    Ace said, if you feel you HAVE to comment, especially on other peoples comments and generally be a dick, get off the internet and stay off it.

    go figure huh?

    EPWJ (1ea63e)

  15. and generally be a dick

    The complete lack of self awareness in EPWJ’s comment is breath-taking.

    JD (5c1832)

  16. On most days, people ignore the shitty things said to them, because we’re conditioned to ignore the shitty things said to us.

    And then on one day, some people say, “Fuck this, I don’t have to take this shitty remark.”

    Lesson: Don’t say shitty things to people for no good reason

    -ace

    EPWJ (1ea63e)

  17. What people always do is to dress up their flaws and their nastiness as some kind of “virtue.” That’s how they do it, that’s how they justify it.

    -ace

    EPWJ (1ea63e)

  18. And it’s always so from the Intrepid Patriotic Warriors. The idea that they’re “helping,” in whatever way they imagine they might be helping, is so central to their core worth that it is impossible for them to entertain the possibility that maybe they’re just alienating people.

    -ace

    Ted? Listening?

    EPWJ (1ea63e)

  19. Conversation with my daughter, tonight. She started her own blog and she wanted my permission to visit the blogs on my blogroll. I told her fine, at worst she would be bored stiff — mine is the bawdiest. We got to talking about comments and commenters, and I told her SayUncle’s commenters were the most polite. Because it’s a gun blog. She got it. You don’t talk nasty to people you know own guns.

    nk (875f57)

  20. He’s mad about the whole tl;dr thing…

    But seriously, I like Ace. I’ve also seen Ace and friends be, in EPWJ’s words, dicks to other people on Twitter. In fact, I’ve seen them be crappy to nice people with thoughtful things to say.

    He has a blog…there will be criticism. Doesn’t he criticize people in his posts too? I had a blogger lash out when I stated my opinion that I simply think his posts are crap after being asked my opinion (I said this on Twitter, not elsewhere). Then again, I agree with WarEagle, I wouldn’t comment to attack the host, I would just leave.

    Maybe I’m wrong…I don’t have a blog. However, I was a moderator when I worked at a dotcom (well, moderation was one of my duties). I know of websites who have had downfalls due to bad moderation.

    ratbeach (f5aad4)

  21. i love the EPWJ sock puppet…

    putting those words under it’s handle is some very tasty irony

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  22. Norm!

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  23. Ace has banned me, along with one or two others at the time. I think it was the run up to 2010 elections. He, in our estimation, was being flat out dishonest a lying a-hole.

    He can write, and for stretches approaching 2 weeks, excluding weekends, of course. Very occasionally, he can have strokes of insight unique to the blogosphere.

    He appears to drink to excess.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  24. Ace lost me when he kept turning liberal on the issues to justify supporting Rick Perry for president and Sarah Palin could do nothing right in his eyes. I haven’t read his shitty blog in two years.

    CrustyB (69f730)

  25. I thought the gist of it was blogging is a fun pastime akin to a knitting circle, but there are too many people kidding themselves that their utterances change the world.

    At the risk of pandering to the host, that’s just wrong.
    I mean Patterico identified a whole new category of criminal activity due to blogging. SWATting.

    When harnessed in tandem with Breitbart, Pat ended the travesty of the “honorable” Rep. Weiner (D NY) and kneecapped his ambitions to be Mayor of New York, and since Weiner is linked to Hillary Clinton, perhaps altered her ambitions to the WH.
    That’s real world impact.

    During high tide of the state sanctioned global warming religious movement, Patterico squished government controlled thermostats in California, this in a state where elected officials have been gerrymandered into permanent office and have zero accountability to the public. No mean feat that!

    If Ace isn’t having the impact he would like, perhaps he’s doing it wrong, but I think he is selling himself short on the political impact of his blog.

    Tallied up properly, I’m sure he has righted numerous wrongs against impossible odds, just like the rest of us.

    papertiger (c2d6da)


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