Sen Landrieu Lies to Veterans Group
[Guest post by JD]
An older veteran stood up toward the middle of the meeting and expressed to her his deep sadness and concern with the massive and constantly growing American debt ($16.9 trillion today and $5.6 trillion in 2000) and the crippling cost to taxpayers to pay for the staggering interest on that debt.
I felt he was in sync with and spoke on behalf of about 85 percent of the nation in his comments, reflecting a voice that is expressed nationally on both sides of the political aisle.
I was stunned to then hear my Louisiana senator defend the massive U.S. debt saying: “That is not true, sir! We do not have an increasing national debt! For the past six to seven years we have been continuously driving that debt down and reducing it and it is NOT increasing.”
She then went on to explain the federal costs of Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security as “non-negotiable mandates by law that cannot be changed” and explained that only a small portion of the federal budget was in discretionary spending, where she was working with others in the Senate to further reduce our nation’s debt.
Leftists shouldn’t be allowed within a mile of a checkbook.
—JD
So much of what they claim to know simply is not so.
JD (b63a52) — 8/12/2013 @ 9:14 amAnd the only reason that the deficit has been lowered in the current FY is because of the sequester that Democrats have been demonizing.
SPQR (768505) — 8/12/2013 @ 9:26 amSince the government is selling most of its debt to the Federal Reserve it should be possible for the “money” raised by these sales to be paid in a new script. Let’s call them Enotes, for Entitlementnotes. These would then be paid to the “entitlement” holders on a one Enote for one dollar current entitlement basis. The owners of these Enotes would then use these in open market transactions. The only guaranteed transaction rate would be for the purchase of Federal debt. Those Federal bonds could then be sold for dollars. Let the market sort out the rest.
bobathome (21f011) — 8/12/2013 @ 9:34 amshe was somebody’s sweet bright-eyed baby goirl once
now she’s just a dirty lying senatorwhore
it breaks your heart
happyfeet (c60db2) — 8/12/2013 @ 9:34 am*girl* i mean
stupid keyboard at work puts the o key right next to the i key and I use both of those keys a LOT when i make the comments
happyfeet (c60db2) — 8/12/2013 @ 9:35 amAnd if called on it she’ll claim to have had it confused with the yearly deficit. Of course.
luagha (5cbe06) — 8/12/2013 @ 9:36 amLiberals no doubt don’t know the difference between the national debt and an annual deficit. On the Obamacare thread a genius calling himself “Fact” wrote:
http://patterico.com/2013/08/05/utterly-corrupt-obama-rewriting-obamacare-unilaterally-again/#comments
“Fact,” whom JD revealed is “Dad,” doesn’t even know the difference between the deficit and the economy.
No doubt he believes a declining labor force participation rate and practically non-existent economic growth is good news because, hey! You want your deficit, err, economy, err, same thing, to shrink.
Steve57 (ecac13) — 8/12/2013 @ 9:49 amI think she actually believes what she said. I don’t think she even knows she is telling an untruth. This is not to excuse her in the slightest. But she and many in congress and the media are not the brightest bulbs and they have been brainwashed. Who is there who can contradict what her masters tell her? Who would she even listen to? The circle goes round and round. The lives of legislators (of both parties) revolve around fund raising and getting re-elected. Most law makers being fully informed and serving as honest stewards of the nation’s security and treasure? Not so much.
elissa (695f4d) — 8/12/2013 @ 9:58 amReason enough on its own, elissa, not to let her and anyone like her anywhere near the national checkbook. We all know that’s not the only reason, though, as your comment goes on to explain.
Steve57 (ecac13) — 8/12/2013 @ 10:07 amMary, Mary, Mary….
askeptic (b8ab92) — 8/12/2013 @ 10:11 amA mind is a terrible thing to waste.
Or rather, many of these things are purely internal changes. But Holder is also going to be pushing for legislative changes.
Hence the DoJ study attributing the drop in crime to the elimination of lead from paint and gasoline that Bill Otis cites. That’s ammunition for the Obama administration to argue that since we’ve eliminated one of the “root causes” of crime we don’t need to lock people up in such large numbers.
Especially since incarceration rates have nothing to do with crime rates.
I suppose it’ll also be used to statistically prove no one needs guns to protect themselves from crime to boot.
Steve57 (ecac13) — 8/12/2013 @ 10:17 amDammit. Wrong thread.
Steve57 (ecac13) — 8/12/2013 @ 10:18 amJust another day in the Marxist-lesbian struggle against the phallocracy.
You go gurllll!!!!!
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 8/12/2013 @ 10:33 am“Senator, your answer is either mendacious or moronic. Are you an idiot or a scoundrel?”
C. S. P. Schofield (adb9dd) — 8/12/2013 @ 10:43 amI don’t have any doubt that the Shreveport Times broke their own link to the article. I have spent the last half hour trying to find it somewhere else in the webosphere and it has truly disappeared. Several other sites besides Breitbart have picked it up but it all seems based upon the Breitbart link…
This is not the first article written by Col. Dean….JD, why not contact him through the paper and get his response…
reff (4dcda2) — 8/12/2013 @ 11:46 amGood idea, reff. I will endeavor to find an email for him and see what he thinks.
JD (3e5d05) — 8/12/2013 @ 11:47 amHere’s the cached version of the report.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 8/12/2013 @ 12:13 pmUnder the progressive philosophy, they will deny to their last breath that the bounced check notice they just received from their bank is accurate – after all, they still have plenty of check’s left in their checkbook.
Instead, it’s all about the malfeasance, corruption, and bigotry of the bank for denying to honor their check.
While there are some not-so-bright members of the GOP holding office – can they really compete with the outright idiots serving in DC as Democrats?
Let’s add the accusations of stupidity from the left to the right as just another case of projection.
Athos (920910) — 8/12/2013 @ 12:18 pmAs reff said above, Lt Col Andre Dean has written a guest column for the Shreveport Times before. Here is the contact information for the Shreveport Times. They should be able to forward an inquiry to Lt Col Dean. I’d contact the Digital Editor or the Acting Editorial Editor.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 8/12/2013 @ 12:18 pmYou could also ask the Digital Editor what happened to Dean’s report.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 8/12/2013 @ 12:19 pmShe’s talking about the cost of paying the debt year to year in the budget. But she’s wrong, because the debt has increased and the cost of the debt in the annual budget has only decreased because the Fed has held the interest rates so low. As soon as inflationary pressures build up, they’ll be forced to raise the interest rate and the annual cost to pay for the $17 trillion every year will skyrocket.
DejectedHead (a094a6) — 8/12/2013 @ 3:21 pmDejectedHead
I was stunned to then hear my Louisiana senator defend the massive U.S. debt saying: “That is not true, sir! We do not have an increasing national debt! For the past six to seven years we have been continuously driving that debt down and reducing it and it is NOT increasing.”
JD (b63a52) — 8/12/2013 @ 3:56 pmShe then went on to explain the federal costs of Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security as “non-negotiable mandates by law that cannot be changed” and explained that only a small portion of the federal budget was in discretionary spending, where she was working with others in the Senate to further reduce our nation’s debt.
She’s not used to having to explain her actions.
askeptic (b8ab92) — 8/12/2013 @ 4:02 pmDaddy never told her that occasionally there are voters who care, and can swing elections against you.
The Cognitive Dissonance is strong in this one.
When she returns to LA in 2027, she better hope that Jindal has moved on so she can be appointed to a No-Show Job in Baton Rouge.
Oops…2015!
askeptic (b8ab92) — 8/12/2013 @ 4:03 pmMaybe she’s really just stupid and just repeating what harry reid told her.
Jim (823b10) — 8/12/2013 @ 4:46 pmA liberal in a comment thread tried to convince me that unemployment benefits were a legitimate way to stimulate the economy. When I asked her where she got her data she sent me a link containing a quote from…Nancy Pelosi. The Low Information Voter will bring this country to its knees. Count on it.
Funeral Guy (c4b0a5) — 8/12/2013 @ 4:47 pmWhen she returns to LA in 2015, she better hope that Jindal has moved on so she can be appointed to a No-Show Job in Baton Rouge.
But retired Democrat Senators (and far too many Republican ones too) never return to their home states, they just sign on with some law firm/lobbying house in the DC area and start raking in the big bucks in a slightly less illegal fashion.
JVW (23867e) — 8/12/2013 @ 5:07 pmReal news would be “Senator tells truth!”
htom (412a17) — 8/12/2013 @ 5:26 pm28.Real news would be “Senator tells truth!”
I’m afraid that would only be in fairy tales.
Bill M (c8f413) — 8/12/2013 @ 7:52 pmOT,
MD in Philly (f9371b) — 8/12/2013 @ 8:11 pmbut it is sort of dishonest to allow children who aren’t girls to use the girl’s bathrooms and those who aren’t boys to use the boys’.
http://www.newsmax.com/newswidget/brown-transgender-student-bill/2013/08/12/id/519988?promo_code=1031D-1&utm_source=www.powerlineblog.com&utm_medium=nmwidget&utm_campaign=widgetphase1
But the story is misleading. Maybe CA is the first state to make such a law, but MA already has the policy through board of education rulings or some such.
MD – that is on my list for tomorrow. …
JD (b63a52) — 8/12/2013 @ 8:15 pmIs that up there with the New Republic and Mother Jones deciding to ban ‘the Redskins’ because that’s who I turn for sports coverage.
narciso (3fec35) — 8/12/2013 @ 8:18 pmCannot work with people that lie to your face and think you’re too stupid to know the truth. But they did elect her.
NJRob (4bb407) — 8/12/2013 @ 9:43 pmIt should be in the Constitution that everything a Senator, Representative, President or Cabinet officer says in public shall be recorded and available to the public to be used against them.
They get one Miranda warning upon taking their oath.
Kevin M (bf8ad7) — 8/12/2013 @ 9:59 pmluagha wrote:
Even if she did, the ‘corrected’ statement by Senatrix Landrieu, “That is not true, sir! We do not have an increasing national deficit! For the past six to seven years we have been continuously driving that deficit down and reducing it and it is NOT increasing,” would be untrue. Six and seven (fiscal) years ago, FY2007 and FY2006, the deficits were $161 billion and 248 billion, respectively. In FY2008 — the first year after the Democrats took control of the Congress — the deficit hit $438 billion, and jumped to over $1.4 trillion in FY2009. FY2009 should have been President Bush’s, but the Democrats, expecting Senator Obama to win the presidential election, passed only two of the twelve annual appropriations bills while Mr Bush was still in office, and funded everything else under continuing resolutions.
Then, in February 2009, after Mr Bush was out of office and the current cretin was in the White House, the Omnibus Appropriations Act of 2009 was introduced in the House of Representatives, dramatically raising spending, exclusive of the $831 billion “stimulus” bill, and the FY2009 deficit is entirely on President Obama and the Democrats.
Now, it’s actually true that the deficit has come down from FY2009, but it was still over a trillion in FY2010, FY2011 and FY2012, and while FY2013 is projected to be under a trillion, it will still be bigger, by hundreds of billions, than any deficit run by any other President, ever.
The Dana who looks at the numbers (3e4784) — 8/13/2013 @ 6:18 amOT,
but it is sort of dishonest to allow children who aren’t girls to use the girl’s bathrooms and those who aren’t boys to use the boys’.
I might not be around for JD’s post on this later, so let me point out that what’s even worse in some ways than the whole choose-my-bathroom situation is that boys will now be allowed to choose what gender’s athletic teams they play for. Imagine this: I am a pretty decent sprinter and long-jumper, but I only rank about 3rd or 4th in my conference as a boy. I suddenly decide that I self-identify as a girl, and voila, I am now the top track athlete in my conference, maybe even a record-breaker. I have yet to hear what part of this recent legislation would put the brakes on this type of perfidy.
JVW (23867e) — 8/13/2013 @ 8:03 amI don’t think this is dishonesty as much as grand ignorance. She’s probably repeating what she has been told. The subtle difference between decreased spending and continuing borrowing is probably beyond her. After all, she’s only a senator.
I pity the tool.
Amphipolis (d3e04f) — 8/13/2013 @ 9:08 amComment by JVW (23867e) — 8/12/2013 @ 5:07 pm
But retired Democrat Senators (and far too many Republican ones too) never return to their home states, they just sign on with some law firm/lobbying house in the DC area and start raking in the big bucks in a slightly less illegal fashion.
It used to be, around 1950, according to something abouyt a new book I read, that very few former members of CXongress became lobbysists (Burton K. Wheeler was an exception) Only 3% of former members of Congress becxame lobbyists. The peoiple who became lobbyists formerly worked in the Executive branch or were staff. But now it’s approaching 50%, lower, I think, for Senators.
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 8/13/2013 @ 9:08 am25. Comment by Jim (823b10) — 8/12/2013 @ 4:46 pm
Maybe she’s really just stupid and just repeating what harry reid told her
This confounding of the words “debt” and “deficit” goes back to Bill Clinton, who does this all the time anytime he talks about the federal budget.
Mary Landrieu may be a bit confused, but Bill Clinton knows exactly what he’s doing.
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 8/13/2013 @ 9:11 amHow hard is it to distinguish between the two terms?
Seriously, what does it say about us that as a group it’s our political class that’s too stupid to understand the difference between a deficit and a debt? Any one of us running a business or handling a household budget understands the concepts and how one differs from the others.
But Congresscritters and Presidents? Too stupid to understand. Yet we give them the power to run our lives.
Aren’t we the smart ones. Let’s spread this system of government to Egypt.
Steve57 (d3be09) — 8/13/2013 @ 9:26 amProgressives are clearly muddled in their understanding and communication of economic facts. I guess there are too many numbers for a liberal world that is, after all, never acknowledged to be divided between the true and the false.
But I think some of this ignorance is deliberate policy. They have no problem borrowing and spending, because paying back what they see as rich lenders is simply not a priority for them. Default is also known as income redistribution.
In reality the rich people they are borrowing from are our children. Not that they care one bit about that either. Where there is no hope, there is no concern about the future.
Amphipolis (d3e04f) — 8/13/2013 @ 9:26 amIt’s interesting that the projection always shows the deficit going down. It has on several occasions over recent years and is often sited as ‘this year they did improve’. I don’t think it ever pans out.
It is amazing if Sen Landrieu really doesn’t know the difference between an annual shortfall and our total debt… debt so high it is has begun to build on itself with interest too fast for this country to be able to carry… much like a black hole.
But Amphipolis is probably right. The Senator was reading a quick attack line before, when she explained how awful a much smaller debt was, and she’s reading a quick talking point now, when she finds some ridiculous way to defend our nation’s most urgent problem.
Passing a balanced budget amendment that includes entitlement spending seems like the only way to solve this problem. Otherwise the legislature will always point to entitlements and incredibly say ‘that’s the law… there’s nothing we as a legislature can do but obey it’. Unfortunately, my hope of a mere constitutional amendment stopping a political culture that is utterly lawless is futile. Obama can cancel the law or create it. He can execute Americans without trial and spy on every citizen while sharing guns with drug lords and facilitating illegal immigration of dependency and lax voter ID to help that dependency get a vote.
If you complain too loudly, the IRS and BATF and EPA will raid your home or business until you shut up. There is no question that we now live in the country our forefathers warned us about.
And as a society, we have the government we deserve, though I don’t think that applies to most of the individuals who post here. Try explaining to a random person on the street how this Senator didn’t know the difference between deficit and debt, and they will show contempt for you, but mention the latest heinous crime in the news, or celebrity gossip, or dumb movie, and they will join you in merry joking about the situation.
Does any recourse but prayer make sense?
Dustin (303dca) — 8/13/2013 @ 9:26 amPropaganda works, Dustin.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/florida-mural-shows-george-zimmerman-shooting-trayvon-martin-article-1.1423940
Lies upon lies upon lies.
Steve57 (d3be09) — 8/13/2013 @ 9:44 amYeah, Steve. I have been watching a fair amount of TV lately after a years where I probably saw a total of an hour. It’s striking how pervasive and thorough the propaganda is. It’s striking how wrong every story is. The moments of truth are completely overwhelmed with the false accounts.
That image of George, with the evil face, totally unharmed, standing, shooting from a normal (premeditated) posture at both Trayvon and MLK… that is the opposite of George on his back, with smacked up head, shooting the guy trying to kill him who is holding him down and leaning over him… this guy who actually racially profiled George as a ‘creepy ass cracker’ and possible homosexual.
The civil rights issue is backwards, the concept of attacker and victim are backwards, the notion of consequences for our civil rights are backwards… except they really aren’t as MLK (who represents looking at the content of character instead of color of skin) really has taken a blow thanks to this story.
Pretty amazing to think about how often this reversal of truth happens.
Dustin (303dca) — 8/13/2013 @ 9:55 amIt’s not really amazing when you look at the difference between what this society claims to value and what behavior it actually rewards.
Steve57 (d3be09) — 8/13/2013 @ 10:07 am“This confounding of the words “debt” and “deficit” goes back to Bill Clinton, who does this all the time anytime he talks about the federal budget.”
Comment by Steve57 (d3be09) — 8/13/2013 @ 9:26 am
How hard is it to distinguish between the two terms?
Once people start misuing words, it becomes a little bit diffiult, and Bill Clinton has been misusing these two words since about 1992.
Seriously, what does it say about us that as a group it’s our political class that’s too stupid to understand the difference between a deficit and a debt?
I think they understand the difference. But they are using the “debt” as if it meant “deficit” or “annual increase in the national debt”
Bill Clinton talks about “reducing the debt” when he can only mean the “deficit”
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/05/us/politics/transcript-of-bill-clintons-speech-to-the-democratic-national-convention.html?pagewanted=all
The word deficit does not appear even once </b in that speech.
Bill Clinton has only one word for either the debt or the deficit: Debt.
Any one of us running a business or handling a household budget understands the concepts and how one differs from the others.
And so I am sure, does Bill Clinton. But he only uses the word debt.
But Congresscritters and Presidents? Too stupid to understand. Yet we give them the power to run our lives.
Not too stupid. Bill Clinton is too smart (and dishonest) to use the word deficit if he can get away with using the word debt instead.
And he’s kind of careful the way he uses it also -in most places using the word debt makes an acceoptable sentence. If you reduce the deficit, you are also reducing the amount of debt.
He doesn’t want people to understand there is a built in federal deficit.
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 8/13/2013 @ 10:47 am“…Yet we give them the power to ruin our lives…”
Comment by Steve57 (d3be09) — 8/13/2013 @ 9:26 am
FTFY, Steve.
askeptic (b8ab92) — 8/13/2013 @ 10:55 amComment by JD (b63a52) — 8/12/2013 @ 8:15 pm
MD in Philly (f9371b) — 8/13/2013 @ 6:43 pmLooking forward to it, JD.
But many things e I knw
[That was “to cover, I know”; the batteries in my wireless keyboard must be dying, if I type at normal speed it drops letters, or maybe it is Al Qaeda code.]
Some times it has to be done, even considering the source:
http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2013/08/13/The-Daily-Show-Drops-an-Egg-on-Chris-Matthews-Face
narciso (3fec35) — 8/13/2013 @ 7:00 pmLeftists shouldn’t be allowed within a mile of an election booth — either as a voter or as a candidate…
When you can’t exercise due diligence in the performance of your exercise of franchise, you shouldn’t be doing it — no matter your particular party/ideological affiliation.
Jus’ Sayin’
Bufookia, Journalistic Muse (a2f645) — 8/14/2013 @ 1:27 am:-/
Our esteemed (guest) host wrote:
Oh, I have no problems at all with liberals, or conservatives, being allowed within a mile of a checkbook, because with a checkbook you can only spend the money you have; you write a check for more than you have, and the check bounces. If you deliberately write too many rubber checks, you can go to jail.
The problems arise when liberals — and too many conservatives as well — get their hands on credit cards.
The Dana who doesn't even have a credit card (3e4784) — 8/14/2013 @ 4:30 amDana, I take it you’ve never heard of check kiting?
Steve57 (d3be09) — 8/14/2013 @ 5:59 am““Senator, your answer is either mendacious or moronic. Are you an idiot or a scoundrel?”
Comment by C. S. P. Schofield (adb9dd) — 8/12/2013 @ 10:43 am”
Now that made my day!!! Thank you C.S.P.
Larry Geiger (8daff0) — 8/14/2013 @ 6:21 amNot O/T, although it may appear to be at first blush:
http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/08/on-the-latest-bogus-nyt-plane-in-peril-story/278474/
Why do we believe our politicians are intelligent when all the evidence points to the conclusion that they’re idiots, merely because the idiots who write the news tell us these politicians aren’t idiots?
The NYT keeps publishing crap, as this author observes, yet for some reason he’s deferential to the NYT’s authoritah. America’s best paper.
I would consider that damning with faint praise, and if I ever used those three words to describe the Old Grey Red Army Camp Follower you could be sure I was being sarcastic, but I’m convinced the Atlanic’s writer meant it in the most fawning and sycophantic way possible. It appears to me he’s begging for a gig.
So we have people like Landrieu confusing the deficit with the debt and Obama who doesn’t know Savannah, GA, isn’t on the Gulf coast. Yet we’re told these people are America’s “best and brightest.” And who tells us that? A crew of dumb****s who you wouldn’t hire at Jiffy Lube.
If the NYT went out of business tomorrow, what skills could their former reporters/reporterettes list on their resume? None.
But they’re the ones telling us how smart our self-anointed leadership is.
I have no doubt that, say, the Clintons are smart in a sense. Given that they’ve made a pretty rich living as parasites on the body politic while condemning the rich folk they always obviously, greedily hoped to become.
But why the hell do Americans put up with news outlets feeding us bull**** about these people that flies in the face of the evidence?
Sen. Landrieu can lie to veterans because the only life forms that matter to her in that terrarium in DC is the MFM who thinks she’s great.
Steve57 (d3be09) — 8/14/2013 @ 7:19 amThe people who thought “Ho Lee Fuk” and “Sum Ting Wong” were real names consider themselves the experts on who is and who isn’t smart.
The question I have as someone who cancelled their cable subscription years ago is, why hasn’t everyone cancelled their cable?
Steve57 (d3be09) — 8/14/2013 @ 7:35 amMr Schofield asked:
Why must this be an either/or question; could not the senator in question be both?
The inquisitive Dana (3e4784) — 8/14/2013 @ 7:42 amI saw a werewolf with a Chinese menu in his hand
Icy (bd6964) — 8/14/2013 @ 8:24 amWalking through the streets of Soho in the rain
He was looking for the place called Lee Ho Fook’s
Going to get a big dish of beef chow mein
Icy–I’ll Sleep When I’m Dead: The Dirty Life and Times of Warren Zevon written by his wife is a stupendous bio.
Birdbath (716828) — 8/14/2013 @ 9:03 amThe question I have as someone who cancelled their cable subscription years ago is, why hasn’t everyone cancelled their cable?
The Golf Channel?
askeptic (b8ab92) — 8/14/2013 @ 9:35 amSatellite TV is no better, and I get my internet through cable as well.
The Dana with cable (3e4784) — 8/14/2013 @ 9:40 amO/T, but probably affecting vets, and whole bunches of others, here in CA:
The CA Assy Public Safety Cmte yesterday passed three bills to:
1) ban all semi-auto rifles w/detachable magazines, which may include .22LR – details to follow (SB-374);
2) bans the use of a “bullet button” to get around the “10-rd fixed magazine” exemption that is in the AW laws/rules (SB-47);
3) ban all magazines that exceed 10-rds including ones previously “grandfathered” under the 2000 Hi-Cap Ban (SB-396).
These bills, along with SB-53 which requires a background check to buy ammo, now will be heard in the Assy Appropriations Cmte, before being sent to the floor for a vote.
Boy, we’re not going to let CO, CT, NY, and others get ahead of us in disarming the public, are we?
askeptic (b8ab92) — 8/14/2013 @ 11:13 amVia the People’s Cube, I found something apropos Sen. Landrieu:
Ibidem (e696cd) — 8/14/2013 @ 4:22 pmLandrieu: South Dakota only has a border with Canada
Here’s the original article:
Joshua (9ede0e) — 8/14/2013 @ 5:12 pmSorry, I messed up.
http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2013308140038
Joshua (9ede0e) — 8/14/2013 @ 5:12 pmR.I.P. Tompall Glaser, ‘outlaw’ country singer
R.I.P. Jack Germond, political commentator
Icy (5aadf0) — 8/14/2013 @ 5:14 pmAlso dead: Bill Lynch, political strategist for David Dinkins and Bill Clinton.
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shahriar mira (ebafaa) — 8/24/2013 @ 1:28 amObviously, the poor dear confused the deficit with the debt. Poor thing. It is all so confusing.
Rick Caird (0ceb78) — 9/1/2013 @ 2:28 pm