Texas Man Kills Kidnappers With Gun
Authorities say a Houston-area man turned the tables on two bank robbery suspects who had abducted him and his wife by pulling a gun on the unsuspecting duo and shooting them both, killing one of them.
The suspects apparently knew that the woman worked at the First National Bank of Eagle Lake in Columbus, and they abducted her and her husband at gunpoint at their residence north of the city on Thursday and drove them back to the bank, Columbus County Sheriff’s Sgt. Andrew Weido told Houston television station KHOU.
The suspects forced the woman to taken an undisclosed amount of money from the bank, then forced the husband to drive them in his truck down Highway 71, Weido said. It was then that the husband grabbed a gun that was in the truck and fired at the suspects, he said.
It always helps when the criminal is stupid, of course.
I sure hope the robbers didn’t have Snapple or Skittles, or else this is gonna get real ugly real quickly.
JVW (23867e) — 8/4/2013 @ 12:13 pmi hate kidnappy bank robbers I like it when they get shot
unless maybe they robbed wells fargo
wells fargo sucks ass
happyfeet (8ce051) — 8/4/2013 @ 12:33 pmGood! He shoulda taken their heads as well
Angelo (79809c) — 8/4/2013 @ 12:55 pmIf the robbers were wearing hoodies don’t tell Rev. Al.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 8/4/2013 @ 12:56 pmImagine the hundreds of thousands of dollars this justified shooting probably saved us in the cost of a trial, incarceration, food stamps, and of course, future crimes.
And he probably saved his and his wife’s life.
Little by little, I think these results add up to quite a bit.
Give him the key to the city.
Dustin (e7f418) — 8/4/2013 @ 1:02 pmThe couple would have most likely been killed by the robbers.
DN (63b989) — 8/4/2013 @ 1:03 pmThis report says the bank robbers were brothers (ages 20 and 21) and the husband is a reserve officer with the local sheriff’s department.
Stupid indeed.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 8/4/2013 @ 1:21 pmI like this quote:
DRJ (a83b8b) — 8/4/2013 @ 1:23 pmShouldn’t the circle be green?
Former Conservative (6e026c) — 8/4/2013 @ 1:26 pmFC is there anything you won’t find fault with?
labcatcher (61737c) — 8/4/2013 @ 1:55 pmred means stop green means go!
I can’t remember where I learned that but it was when I was really little
happyfeet (8ce051) — 8/4/2013 @ 2:04 pmI, for one, am boycotting robbing and kidnapping in any state with stand your ground laws. So there.
nk (875f57) — 8/4/2013 @ 2:08 pmnot much empathy there, eh, FC?
Colonel Haiku (b0e352) — 8/4/2013 @ 2:09 pmThe wounded prick should have to dig the other’s grave.
dfbaskwill (c021f2) — 8/4/2013 @ 2:12 pmOddly enough the man’s name was Carlos Danger. And the first rule of kidnapping is never kidnap somebody named Carlos Danger.
Birdbath (716828) — 8/4/2013 @ 2:26 pmF’ing good work.
And happyfeet is right, Wells Fargo sucks concern troll ass.
SPQR (768505) — 8/4/2013 @ 2:33 pmThe robbers are white… so who even cares.
The circle is red as a warning, although granted, a green circle surrounded by a LGBT friendly rainbow next to a TV featuring a looping video of Johnnie Weir iceskating in a feather boa would be very inclusive
SteveG (794291) — 8/4/2013 @ 2:57 pmFormer Conservative,
Your comment made me curious because I don’t remember seeing signs with green circles, and I wondered if there are any. It turns out there are and this website says the green circle means you are obligated to do what the sign says. Thus, wouldn’t the correct signage is a red circle since there isn’t a requirement that people carry guns, only that they are welcome?
DRJ (a83b8b) — 8/4/2013 @ 3:16 pmSorry. Make that “… wouldn’t the correct signage be a red circle …”
DRJ (a83b8b) — 8/4/2013 @ 3:17 pmGood job. Nice to see the good guys safe and sound, and the bad guys full of holes.
Dave Surls (46b08c) — 8/4/2013 @ 3:47 pmhttp://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/08/04/after-25-years-tawana-brawley-begins-paying-man-falsely-accused-rape/?intcmp=obinsite
Yoda (c1890a) — 8/4/2013 @ 3:56 pmThe robbers are white… so who even cares.
Saw a picture purported to be of them on Google images. They may in fact be some of those lawless White Hispanics who are roaming all over the South.
JVW (23867e) — 8/4/2013 @ 4:07 pmHe should be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.
mg (31009b) — 8/4/2013 @ 4:20 pmYeah, good point. I’m not sure what the equivalent traffic sign would be. Black on yellow possibly?
Former Conservative (6e026c) — 8/4/2013 @ 4:52 pmThank god he wasn’t circumcised.
JD (b63a52) — 8/4/2013 @ 5:30 pmhttp://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/08/03/16-reasons-why-hillary-clinton-will-win-2016.html
already – its starting already?
EPWJ (1cedce) — 8/4/2013 @ 5:31 pmWhy should it surprise you that they are starting in on Hillary? You still bibble babble about Palin 5 freakin years after shearer was on a ballot.
JD (b63a52) — 8/4/2013 @ 5:55 pmThat’s hilarious, EPWJ. Naturally you didn’t follow the link that said:
When it originally appeared at RedState the headline and subheadline read:
And the introduction read:
Naturally you link to the deceptively edited version. With the headline and subheadline:
And the Daily Beast altered the introduction as follows:
You and the Daily Beast are a match made in heaven, EPWJ.
Steve57 (a65996) — 8/4/2013 @ 5:56 pmAh Myra Adams, no one filled the Daily Basilisk on the joke, it has no punchline,
narciso (3fec35) — 8/4/2013 @ 5:59 pmShe disdained the Tea Party, but without their support as the records show of their deliberate suppression, look where we ended up.
narciso (3fec35) — 8/4/2013 @ 6:10 pmEPWJ is a concern troll. Concern troll is concerned.
SPQR (768505) — 8/4/2013 @ 6:11 pmJD
okay – I linked it so you would attack it, not as something I approve of but thanks for jumping yet again to conclusions….
EPWJ (1cedce) — 8/4/2013 @ 6:32 pmGood job. Nice to see the good guys safe and sound, and the bad guys full of holes.
Comment by Dave Surls (46b08c) — 8/4/2013 @ 3:47 pm
— Yeah, NOW you think it’s nice.
Icy (32e11a) — 8/4/2013 @ 6:35 pmI might have been tempted to attack it, EPWJ, but I had already read the original, unedited version.
Steve57 (a65996) — 8/4/2013 @ 6:37 pmI have a friend who thinks that I’m nuts because questioned why the play, “Book of Mormon,” just happened to become popular when it did.
He may be right, but by God, I can’t wait for the three Hillary movies already announced. We may get another about Bill for good measure.
Ag80 (eb6ffa) — 8/4/2013 @ 6:38 pmTo again all new commentators
Be warned – you MUST agree with SPQR and his commentariat cabal or you will be slandered, libeled per se continuously in the comment section.
the owner of this blog is aware of their activities so you should immediate point out their attacks to him.
Again SPQR and others like him will slander and libel you continuously if you don’t agree with them on every issue – this is not a blog where dissention is tolerated nor wanted.
EPWJ (1cedce) — 8/4/2013 @ 6:38 pm“I questioned.” Sorry.
Ag80 (eb6ffa) — 8/4/2013 @ 6:39 pmI think you crackass are all trigger-happy racist profilers. Those poor men were just trying to feed their families, and enjoy a little leisurely rape, torture and murder. They could be President Obama’s sons.
nk (875f57) — 8/4/2013 @ 6:39 pmThat’s so cynical, Ag, and the fact that one of the stars, Josh Gad was so reserved in his comments about same sex marriage, which Mormons happen to oppose.
narciso (3fec35) — 8/4/2013 @ 6:41 pmLOL – I have a “cabal”. I’ve always wanted one of those.
Oh, my ribs, I think I cracked one laughing.
SPQR (768505) — 8/4/2013 @ 6:41 pmGood one, nk.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 8/4/2013 @ 6:42 pmJD, JD … I have a “cabal”. Want a bite? Tastes great.
SPQR (768505) — 8/4/2013 @ 6:42 pmmg wrote:
FTFY
The helpful Dana (af9ec3) — 8/4/2013 @ 6:42 pmDo we get tee shirts, decoder rings, snorfle,
narciso (3fec35) — 8/4/2013 @ 6:42 pmnk, you be righteous dude.
SPQR (768505) — 8/4/2013 @ 6:43 pmnarciso, sorry I’m all out of “I joined SPQR’s cabal and all I got was this lousy t-shirt” t-shirts.
I still have a lot of “I carry a small gun to make up for my huge penis” t-shirts. But they are all size 2XL in stock.
SPQR (768505) — 8/4/2013 @ 6:44 pmYet, EPWJ is still here. Sort that out as you will.
Also, EPWJ, isn’t that the point?
I don’t know SPQR from Adam. I don’t even know if I agree with him or not.
Regardless, commentators do get banned, but usually for at least defensible reasons. Unless I am crazy, you post here all the time.
Also, libel is a legal term which is only tangentially related to free comment.
Ag80 (eb6ffa) — 8/4/2013 @ 6:45 pmI do have a criticism of the husband’s actions: one of the crooks survived, albeit is in critical condition. This means that he will have to be tried, will doubtlessly be convicted, and then the citizens of the Lone Star State are going to be stuck not only with life-long incarceration costs, but doubtlessly huge medical bills to save this scumbag in the first place, and possibly life-long medical bills.
The concerned Dana (af9ec3) — 8/4/2013 @ 6:47 pmconcerned Dana, I’m the last person to criticize someone’s marksmanship in these kinds of incidents. One goblin dead is good.
SPQR (768505) — 8/4/2013 @ 6:50 pmI also meant to say, before becoming distracted, that “stand your ground” in Texas is not a law. It is a way of life.
Sorry if that offends the intellectuals and all.
Ag80 (eb6ffa) — 8/4/2013 @ 6:50 pmIF the KHOU link is correct and IF there is only one Jordan Kutach (and the reports are new so they could certainly be wrong), then this link could show the surviving suspect.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 8/4/2013 @ 6:52 pmNot necessarily, Concerned Dana. The death penalty for felony murder where the death is that of an accomplice has been upheld, in a case out of Texas I believe. His “life-long” may not be all that long. (It’s Texas.)
nk (875f57) — 8/4/2013 @ 6:55 pmRon White has a great line about the death penalty in Texas.
SPQR (768505) — 8/4/2013 @ 7:07 pmBoy George has a son?
elissa (d7d7a0) — 8/4/2013 @ 7:11 pmhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRmmIVnjqfQ
Ron White Death Penalty
SPQR (768505) — 8/4/2013 @ 7:14 pm26. Myra Adams writes for PJM but she’s no conservative, more like a moby.
Supposedly she has this Paleo Xian jewelry charity going, and her website has her standing in front of the Dome of the Rock.
One seriously wacked out lady.
gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 8/4/2013 @ 7:14 pm“the express lane” one, SPQR?
nk (875f57) — 8/4/2013 @ 7:14 pmCrossposted, thanks.
nk (875f57) — 8/4/2013 @ 7:15 pmJD
okay – I linked it so you would attack it, not as something I approve of but thanks for jumping yet again to conclusions….
I jumped to no conclusions. I simply pointed out your lack of self-awareness.
JD (b63a52) — 8/4/2013 @ 7:16 pm36. I dunno PeeWee, SPQR is at least as reliable as I am and I don’t trust anyone, excepting maybe sicko.
gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 8/4/2013 @ 7:18 pmGood catch, DRJ. Looks like a real winner.
Dustin (e7f418) — 8/4/2013 @ 7:20 pmgary, you can’t be in my cabal. You got cooties.
SPQR (768505) — 8/4/2013 @ 7:21 pmSPQR – a cabal sounds cool. Do you have minions? I always wanted minions.
JD (b63a52) — 8/4/2013 @ 7:22 pmJD, you can’t have my minions.
SPQR (768505) — 8/4/2013 @ 7:23 pm62. Indeed, my wife won’t introduce me to new friends. They have to be old friends who’ll stand by her thru thick and thin b4 she’ll let me open my mouth.
gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 8/4/2013 @ 7:25 pmgary, well if your wife thinks you got cooties then that means you got anti-cooties and you qualify for my cabal.
All my cabal minions got anti-cooties.
SPQR (768505) — 8/4/2013 @ 7:26 pm66. Hot dog. I’d still like to convince her I have friends, some day. But we’ll save that one for later, I dasn’t look too needy, now that I’m in a cabal, gee.
gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 8/4/2013 @ 7:31 pmI’d prefer to be part of your harem instead of a cabal…
Pamela (17a6bb) — 8/4/2013 @ 7:36 pm35. Re: the Hilarity movies. Who’ll be the ankle double for the sex scenes? Does she wear those Fresnel lens at home? What’ll they be rated to keep impressionable sailors ears unscorched?
gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 8/4/2013 @ 7:40 pm69. ‘lenses’, Doh.
gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 8/4/2013 @ 7:44 pmIt’s very distressing gary, the flipside of Julianne’s Bender,
narciso (3fec35) — 8/4/2013 @ 7:45 pm71. Aiyee, you reminded me! She of the need for a nose job to add a dollop. The worst actress since Ali McGraw.
gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 8/4/2013 @ 7:53 pm72. Actually Halle Berry is the worst ever, worse than Borat, but she’s special.
gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 8/4/2013 @ 8:02 pmNo harems here. Thanks for applying.
SPQR (768505) — 8/4/2013 @ 8:07 pmmy harem: a 1911A1, a Garand, a Mauser and an 870.
with a Dan Wesson revolver if i feel like cheating.
redc1c4 (abd49e) — 8/4/2013 @ 8:32 pmhttp://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/08/04/police-officer-shoots-and-kills-armed-14-year-old-boy-on-nyc-street/
Get ready for the rioting and the rallies featuring Sharpton and Jackson.
JVW (23867e) — 8/4/2013 @ 8:42 pmWho’ll be the ankle double for the sex scenes?
Comment by gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 8/4/2013 @ 7:40 pm
— THERE WILL BE NO ‘SEX SCENES’!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Icy (32e11a) — 8/4/2013 @ 8:58 pm.
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unless they feature Huma as a dominatrix.
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Tastefully done, of course.
Horrible. Where were the parents? The kid was already in trouble w/ the law.
Dustin (303dca) — 8/4/2013 @ 9:49 pmA Cabal! Can I join? I’m always late to the party, darn it. Already missed out on the t-shirts and everything! That’s what I get for watering the yard instead of reading the blogs.
Bill M (c8f413) — 8/4/2013 @ 9:57 pmHorrible. Where were the parents?
Well, Dustin, as far as “parents” go I would bet you dollars to dimes that this is one of those typical situation where the dad has been absent for most of the boy’s short life. And it sounds like one of those street situations where they had him on the attempted murder charge, but none of his victims would agree to testify against him. The code of the neighborhood or whatever.
JVW (23867e) — 8/4/2013 @ 11:50 pmPerhaps Shaaliver’s gun can join Trayvon’s hoodie at the Smithsonian?
calypso louie Farrakhan (53ccf5) — 8/5/2013 @ 6:17 amFrom what I gathered the cops did society a favor. Wouldn’t matter to me what color the punk was. Anyone familiar with the HBO series The Wire, recognizes the sociopathic behavior. David Simon came out as another progtard unhappy with the Zimmerman verdict. I wonder if Shaaliver would be another of Choom’s sons or Choom 35 years ago? In this case, the mother of this angel only had one child. Boo hoo.
21. Tawana Brawley isn’t paying this, of course, the crooks who support Al Sharpton are paying this.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/pay_up_time_for_brawley_8q8M98zvpApS46BonCokvI
She sent ten separate checks, totalling $3,764.61 (one shown in the New York Post is for $358.31 and comes from “The Laurels of Bon Air LLC” – the name of her employer in Richmond, Virginia.)
This money is not coming oit of her wages. They are already being garnished. This is extram and legally, probably, are gifts from untraceable sources. But probably drug dealers, ticket scalpers, people in the music business, sneaker companies or people with businesses benefiting from government grants. Benefitting from Al Sharpton and company really. Al Sharpton has probably taxed them.
The total owed is now up to $431,000 because of 9% interest on the $190,000 1998 judgement.
All this to make sure she doesn’t tell the truth, because Steven Pagones has repeatedly said that if she told the truth, he’d waive the judgement on her.
An important secret, or at least an important thing to deny.
It’s not that it would cost Al Sharpton money directly. The $66,000 judgement on Sharpton was paid years ago by O.J. Simpson lawyer Johnny Cochran and others. Attorney Alton Maddox was found liable for $97,000 and Attorney C. Vernon Mason for $188,000, and I think their judgements have been paid, or are being gradually paid.
Maddox’s law license was suspended in 1990 but he is still active – he tried to petition the Surry County court to stop the garnishment of Twana Brawley’s wages. Mason was a minister in addtition to being a lawyer but was disbarred in 1995, and he’s been mostly silent.
Tawana Brawley was found earlier this year working as licensed practical nurse. She’s used names like Tawana Thompson and Gutierrez and has a daughter and was seen emerging from her house with a young girl and aman dressed in hospital scrubs.
I think years ago, she told the truth to some freinds, but it was found out and she disappeared or something like that.
Sammy Finkelman (a90e7e) — 8/5/2013 @ 6:56 am81. Comment by calypso louie Farrakhan (53ccf5) — 8/5/2013 @ 6:17 am
Perhaps Shaaliver’s gun can join Trayvon’s hoodie at the Smithsonian?
That may not go so quickly to the Smitsonian. Tthe Smithsonian wants it. But Parks (a Martin family lawyer) said it’s too early. That’s the same person who during the trial said it wasn’t racial. I think they sense a problem with this case and don’t want it too closely examined.
and as for the hoodie itself, it might not look at all like the hoodie shown in that picture that was circulated of some not too dark skinned black teenager in a hoodie who would definitely pass the paper bag test.
From what I gathered the cops did society a favor. Wouldn’t matter to me what color the punk was. Anyone familiar with the HBO series The Wire, recognizes the sociopathic behavior. David Simon came out as another progtard unhappy with the Zimmerman verdict. I wonder if Shaaliver would be another of Choom’s sons or Choom 35 years ago? In this case, the mother of this angel only had one child. Boo hoo.
Sammy Finkelman (a90e7e) — 8/5/2013 @ 7:00 amThe last [aragraph is not mine.
Sammy Finkelman (a90e7e) — 8/5/2013 @ 7:03 amThe perils of cut and paste. I’d love to see your autocorrects some time.
Tawana Brawley is a prime example why the false crime report laws are inadequate. (We’ve had this discussion about SWATtings too.)
nk (875f57) — 8/5/2013 @ 7:07 amIcy errs:
Oh, puhleeze! Huma is clearly a sub.
The sex fiend Dana (3e4784) — 8/5/2013 @ 12:06 pmdom or sub, Huma is clearly a ho…
she’ll do anything for power.
redc1c4 (abd49e) — 8/5/2013 @ 12:33 pmThe first secret meeting of the cabal is tonight. Everyone who is a member of my cabal got the email with the location, the required dress, and the banquet menu. Please be sure to check off beef or chicken and make any special requests for kosher meals at least an hour before the event begins.
SPQR (768505) — 8/5/2013 @ 1:31 pm@#5: Excellent comment, especially this:
MT Geoff (a67ef4) — 8/5/2013 @ 2:30 pm“And he probably saved his and his wife’s life.”
Many people would have gotten the grammar wrong, using something like “him and his wife’s..” although “lives” would be better yet.
Comment by SPQR (768505) — 8/5/2013 @ 1:31 pm
The NSA hacked my email and deleted the message before I could read it. Please resend by anti-security-security-cleared carrier pigeon.
MD in Philly (f9371b) — 8/5/2013 @ 2:44 pmYes, that will be safe, no one can get any #8 birdshot lately.
askeptic (b8ab92) — 8/5/2013 @ 2:47 pmMD in Philly, resent by Internet protocol RFC 1149.
SPQR (768505) — 8/5/2013 @ 3:02 pmYou didn’t order the fish, remember Airplane.
narciso (3fec35) — 8/5/2013 @ 3:25 pmWell, I think having only boys in the treehouse is kind of rotten and is not going to be very much fun….
elissa (c016f3) — 8/5/2013 @ 3:29 pmelissa, my cabal doesn’t have a “treehouse” … that’s far too suburban retro for me.
SPQR (768505) — 8/5/2013 @ 3:32 pmGURLS KEEP OUT!
askeptic (b8ab92) — 8/5/2013 @ 3:34 pmelissa, if you’re ok with just taking over the tri-state area, my organization does not discriminate. (It’s the only way we get to meet girls, if truth be told.)
nk (875f57) — 8/5/2013 @ 3:41 pmI am beginning to think that the purpose and goals of this cabal are getting muddled.
elissa (c016f3) — 8/5/2013 @ 3:49 pmMy goals are never muddled. I have only two goals in life. Getting drunk and ridiculing EPWJ.
Well those and world domination.
Wait, wait, did I forget world peace?
SPQR (768505) — 8/5/2013 @ 5:41 pmI didnt get my email, SPQR. Do we have issues?
JD (202fb3) — 8/5/2013 @ 5:45 pmYou will have to reload your own, aseptic.
mg (31009b) — 8/5/2013 @ 5:50 pmJD, how could that be? EPWJ said you were in my cabal…..
SPQR (768505) — 8/5/2013 @ 6:01 pmWhat happens in Teh Cabal, stays in Teh Cabal.
JD (b63a52) — 8/5/2013 @ 6:21 pmThe whole whine by EPWJ was so juvenile. A Cabal.
No one here is my “follower”. I am too much of an ass to have any.
SPQR (768505) — 8/5/2013 @ 7:56 pmI don’t want to talk about EPWJ. I want to talk about Huma. And Barbara. And how to take over the tri-state area.
nk (875f57) — 8/5/2013 @ 8:07 pmnk – Why would you want anything to do with the tri-state area?
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 8/5/2013 @ 8:10 pmI always wondered which tri-state area, as there are many.
MD in Philly (f9371b) — 8/5/2013 @ 8:17 pmI don’t want to overreach right from the start. First the tri-state area and then the world.
nk (875f57) — 8/5/2013 @ 8:21 pmOurs is Wisconsin, Illinois, Indiana, with the perfect invasion route — the Milwaukee-Gary corridor with lots of good Greek restaurants to stop at and eat on the way.
nk (875f57) — 8/5/2013 @ 8:25 pmi didn’t go to the meeting because there wasn’t a menu option of halal pork.
redc1c4 (abd49e) — 8/6/2013 @ 12:58 amCan I cabal with all of you? I’ll bring a leg of lamb stuck with garlic and rubbed with herbs de provence, roasted on wood coals. Medium Rare.
mg (31009b) — 8/6/2013 @ 2:24 amIt’s tragic when a life is lost even if it was unavoidable. But, for you and your Neanderthal commenters it’s all a big joke. That’s a shame because you give gun owners a bad name. Most of them are serious people who do not take these things lightly.
mikeb302000 (436a1c) — 8/6/2013 @ 3:40 amI always think it is so precious when a drive by asshat troll like mikeb wraps himself in a blanket of faux moral superiority, and waxes rhapsodic about its heartfelt concerns.
JD (b63a52) — 8/6/2013 @ 3:54 amHe’s more likely astroturf anti-gunner disguising himself as a pro-gunner. They’re floating all over the place. He will, seriously, let you have a double-barreled shotgun, seriously, with, seriously, proper background check and registration, seriously, for hunting, seriously, and maybe firing a couple of shots, seriously, into the woods, seriously, to seriously frighten off home invaders, seriously.
nk (875f57) — 8/6/2013 @ 4:08 amYou and jadegold have a nice little niche there, calling people gun loons, while running an anti-2nd Amendment site, where it seems you try to highlight instances of criminal uses of guns. Though you claimed to object to your commenters going over the line, you bring the exact same type of leftist CIVILITY to this thread.
JD (b63a52) — 8/6/2013 @ 4:32 amYou clicked his handle, JD? I didn’t want to, thanks.
nk (875f57) — 8/6/2013 @ 4:54 amTo all new commentators:
You must agree with SPQR, or he will actively and constantly smear you, defame you, libel you constantly.
Again, if you want to participate – YOU MUST get his specific permission or you will be attacked – you will be labeled an abuser of meds, alcohol –
Will SPQR stop at libel?, who knows?
what other things he will do to someone who dares to state an opinion on this or any other blog.
EPWJ (bdd0a6) — 8/6/2013 @ 5:43 amWhat they canceled the teashirt order?
narciso (3fec35) — 8/6/2013 @ 6:00 amSome should stick to counting Jooooooooooooos.
JD (b63a52) — 8/6/2013 @ 6:04 amMikeb wrote:
Is it? These two fine gentlemen were kidnappers, at the very least, and might well have turned out to be murderers, given more time and an unarmed victim. Why is it a tragedy when people like that go to their eternal reward a little bit earlier than anticipated?
I will ask a simple and obvious question: is the community better off with these two gentlemen here or gone?
The coldly realistic Dana (3e4784) — 8/6/2013 @ 6:04 amDana – If you go look at his site, you will see that actual discussion is far from what mikeb is looking for.
JD (b63a52) — 8/6/2013 @ 6:05 amAre they like Bloomberg’s cabal, that put Tamerlan as a victim of gun violence, JD?
narciso (3fec35) — 8/6/2013 @ 6:17 amYes, and they deny the increase in gun ownership, and try to frame routine everyday crimes that happen to involve a gun as indicative of the failure of gun control laws. And that is on their good days.
JD (b63a52) — 8/6/2013 @ 6:20 amAnd he links to Trig denialists, and mad psychos like RT’s Costello, Wayne Madsen, it’s the policy version of the Leathers video.
narciso (3fec35) — 8/6/2013 @ 6:29 amThe answer is “yes”, but calling them gentlemen is an insult to those of us who strive to be gentlemen.
They were men; there was nothing gentle about them.
Chuck Bartowski (11fb31) — 8/6/2013 @ 6:47 amNo rational society should have agonized for thiry years over executing this guy. http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/08/05/3543609/miami-mass-killer-john-ferguson.html
I don’t believe in deterrence and other socio-psychological nonsense — criminologists and legal philosophers should get themselves jobs. I do believe in incapacitaion so the murderer will not commit any more crimes and, sometimes you just got to f***ing kill them. What they did is just too evil to go unpunished by anything other than the most extreme penalty.
nk (875f57) — 8/6/2013 @ 6:56 amAbsolutely, nk. We don’t kill murderers to punish them or to deter others, because it probably isn’t a deterrence given how long it takes to carry out executions. But capital punishment definitely keeps murderers from murdering again.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 8/6/2013 @ 7:21 ammikeb203000 is a long time gun control activist troll. His positions on gun control have been laughable for years.
Only those whose main concern is the welfare of criminals would not be pleased at the article that is the subject of this post.
SPQR (768505) — 8/6/2013 @ 8:12 amMikeB2000 once stated that a woman should simply accept being raped, rather than risk taking a life in her defense.
Now he’s coming to the defense of the “precious lives” of two kidnappers — who likely would have murdered before the night was over.
MikeB2000 wants to render everyone (else) defenseless. Do you think his intentions are good?
Rob Crawford (e6f27f) — 8/6/2013 @ 8:48 am“Murder” breaks the Social Compact.
askeptic (b8ab92) — 8/6/2013 @ 8:49 am“A Life for a Life” is the penalty.
And, Justice delayed is Justice denied.
Deny them the opportunity to kill again, while in prison.
The important thing to remember is that the people who want to render you defenseless have a reason for that — they intend to commit some act they believe you will resist with lethal force.
Rob Crawford (e6f27f) — 8/6/2013 @ 8:56 amOh, and if you want to know who mikeb2000 is, start here.
Rob Crawford (e6f27f) — 8/6/2013 @ 9:09 amNo thanks, Rob. Pamela sounded intriguing though.
nk (875f57) — 8/6/2013 @ 9:15 amHa, Rob, I’d forgotten about Linoge’s series of posts on Sparky.
SPQR (768505) — 8/6/2013 @ 9:17 amMy apologies, Rob, I did click the Walls of the City after I saw SPQR’s comment, and it’s fine.
nk (875f57) — 8/6/2013 @ 9:35 amnk, its ok. Rob would never rickroll you. 😉
SPQR (768505) — 8/6/2013 @ 9:36 amoh, and btw;
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/08/3-dead-4-wounded-in-ross-township-pennsylvania-shooting-police-holding-suspect/
narciso (3fec35) — 8/6/2013 @ 10:00 amnarciso, another case of a mentally ill person that local government can’t figure out how to handle effectively.
SPQR (768505) — 8/6/2013 @ 10:02 amYes, but he’s a Gitmo opposing, Bradley Manning following member of CREDO, but that nay just be out of convenience.
narciso (3fec35) — 8/6/2013 @ 10:06 amNow that I think of it, Rob Crawford may be the only guy actually in my cabal.
That or he’s stalking me. 😉
SPQR (768505) — 8/6/2013 @ 10:11 amHey wait a minute there.
narciso (3fec35) — 8/6/2013 @ 10:12 amI had EPWJ blocked on my other computer but I bought my new computer and haven’t taken the time to install the EPWJ blocker so I have to read his hate-filled and lie-filled rants. Does that qualify me for cabal membership? And since my home is on wheels with a 53 foot trailer attached, I can give a discount in transporting cabal memorabilia if I can get my own memorabilia for free.
John Hitchcock (d1ff8c) — 8/6/2013 @ 10:17 amQualify? John, you don’t want to qualify. My cabal is most noted for the quality of those excluded.
SPQR (768505) — 8/6/2013 @ 10:33 amI always wondered which tri-state area, as there are many.
The liberal tri-state area: California, Illinois, New York.
Nice to hear from John Hitchcock again. Been a long time.
JVW (23867e) — 8/6/2013 @ 10:36 amTamerlan Tsarnaev seems to have also been a right-wing anti-semite.
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/08/05/report-tamerlan-tsarnaev-possessed-right-wing-literature/
http://rt.com/news/tsarnaev-extremist-nazi-literature-042/
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/08/meet-man-who-gave-tamerlan-tsarnaev-his-right-wing-literature/680
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323420604578649830782219440.html?mod=WSJ_hps_LEFTTopStories#articleTabs%3Darticle
Sammy Finkelman (a90e7e) — 8/6/2013 @ 10:42 amMy two cents: A cabal is a secret group that is kind of like a fight club. The first rule is you don’t talk about it.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 8/6/2013 @ 10:43 amFinkelman, the labeling of an islamic inspired “white” supremacist as “right wing” is ludicrous.
SPQR (768505) — 8/6/2013 @ 10:53 amDRJ, ah but you see: “The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist. ”
😉
SPQR (768505) — 8/6/2013 @ 10:54 amHence the Groucho line about joining clubs.
narciso (3fec35) — 8/6/2013 @ 11:02 ampoor Sammy: he tries *SO* hard to forget that the Nazi’s were Socialists.
that’s the left side of the political spectrum, genius. just like the Demonrats here in the USA.
redc1c4 (abd49e) — 8/6/2013 @ 11:48 amAren’t Islamic terrorists right wing? They can’t be left wing, can they?
I wouldn’t call the Nazis really right wing or left wing. They are called right-wing because they made an enemy (except for a 22 month period) of what was positioned as being on the extreme left wing. Then there’s the idea that it’s a circle and they meet.
Rigt wing may not have any real meaning here, but it’s the word people use sometimes for the Nazis. Islamicists are probably placed on the right too.
But then, liberals place anything they don’t like on the right. As William F. Buckley once complained, Brezhnev and the Soviet Politburo was called right wing in many newspaper accounts.
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 8/6/2013 @ 11:56 amCorrection: Actually Brezhnev was called “conservative”
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 8/6/2013 @ 11:57 amThose National socialists just don’t get along with their cousins, the International socialists;
askeptic (b8ab92) — 8/6/2013 @ 11:59 amand vice versa.
Kind of resembles an Appalachian Feud.
The esteemed Mr Finkelman wrote:
It is so placed by our friends on the left who wish to use guilt-by-association to tar conservatives, when no such association exists. But we should give some credit to the left here: they realize that controlling the language means controlling the argument, and they have done an absolutely excellent job of controlling the language.
The right-wing Dana (3e4784) — 8/6/2013 @ 12:00 pmI think Lenin said something about that.
askeptic (b8ab92) — 8/6/2013 @ 12:02 pmAnd yet I made it in…
Sheesh!
Rob Crawford (e6f27f) — 8/6/2013 @ 12:17 pmComparing the Nazis and Commies to murderous back-wood hicks that hold grudges for generations is unfair to the murderous back-wood hicks.
Rob Crawford (e6f27f) — 8/6/2013 @ 12:18 pm147. Comment by SPQR (768505) — 8/6/2013 @ 10:53 am
Finkelman, the labeling of an islamic inspired “white” supremacist as “right wing” is ludicrous.
The BBS report is ridiculous. Showing some conmnection to or liking of American right-wing extremism doesn’t make him not an Islamist.
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 8/6/2013 @ 12:26 pmAbsolutely, nk. We don’t kill murderers to punish them or to deter others, because it probably isn’t a deterrence given how long it takes to carry out executions. But capital punishment definitely keeps murderers from murdering again.
Comment by DRJ (a83b8b) — 8/6/2013 @ 7:21 am
Executing murderers deters the hell out of the executed murderer it does!
Yoda (ee1de0) — 8/6/2013 @ 8:05 pmbut SPQR-
you sent me the invitation to the cabal dinner-
I didn’t make it because the carrier pigeon was delayed when it had to dodge drones in the guise of Peregrine Falcons, so by the time I got the message it was too late to make it (My daughter had the Tardis).
Here the tri-state area is PA-NJ and Del. In NW Ohio it is Ohio-Mich-In
I suppose in NE Ohio it is Ohio-NY-PA
I imagine Tx and Alaska are each big enough to be tri-state areas without any other states necessary.
Only trendy cabals are discussed by their members.
MD in Philly (f9371b) — 8/6/2013 @ 8:27 pmMD in Philly, I don’t think you’ve correctly implemented RFC 1149.
SPQR (768505) — 8/6/2013 @ 8:34 pmI was trying, SPQR.
MD in Philly (f9371b) — 8/6/2013 @ 8:38 pmI’ll have to read it again.
Security is not generally a problem in normal operation, but special
measures must be taken (such as data encryption) when avian carriers
are used in a tactical environment.
It said nothing about training in evasive maneuvers in a tactical environment, but we did anyway, and a good thing too, or else it wouldn’t have made it at all.
MD in Philly (f9371b) — 8/6/2013 @ 8:43 pmA well trained avian message carrier is to hard to find to give them up easily.
Doc, those weren’t drone falcons. Those were Zionist spy falcons.
http://www.israellycool.com/2013/07/26/zionist-falcon-captured-in-turkey/
Congrats, SPQR. The Mossad is trying to infiltrate your cabal.
That means you’ve made the A-list.
Steve57 (a65996) — 8/6/2013 @ 8:50 pmThat’s hilarious Steve57. It shows just how utterly f’ing nuts the islamists are.
Kooky. And stupid as rocks. Thinking that a banded falcon was an Israeli spy.
SPQR (768505) — 8/6/2013 @ 8:53 pmYeah Crazy.
A Pigeon and A Boy– a novel by Meir Shalev
During the 1948 War of Independence–a time when pigeons were still used to deliver battlefield messages–a gifted young Israeli pigeon handler is mortally wounded. In the moments before his death, he dispatches one last pigeon….
elissa (76fb21) — 8/6/2013 @ 10:40 pmThe Zionists aren’t just using birds.
The Egyptians are really ticked off about this guy.
http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/30a40b4342fd.jpg
Particularly the Egyptian government of the South Sinai.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-11937285
Steve57 (a65996) — 8/6/2013 @ 11:08 pmI imagine Tx and Alaska are each big enough to be tri-state areas without any other states necessary.
Only trendy cabals are discussed by their members.
Comment by MD in Philly (f9371b) — 8/6/2013 @ 8:27 pm
Tri-state area for Texas called Ark-la-tex, it is! Arkansas-Louisiana-Texas.
Yoda (ee1de0) — 8/7/2013 @ 7:43 pmTexas also has an annex we call New Mexico.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 8/7/2013 @ 8:27 pmAren’t those the Badlands?
nk (875f57) — 8/7/2013 @ 8:35 pmahhh! the annex of enchantment!
Plus they have tasty foozles
happyfeet (8ce051) — 8/7/2013 @ 8:47 pm