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7/29/2013

Billary Livid About Comparison to Weiner

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:59 am

Headline of the day: Bill and Hillary Clinton are ‘livid’ at comparisons to Weiner’s sexcapades and Huma’s forgiveness.

Bill and Hillary Clinton are angry with efforts by mayoral hopeful Anthony Weiner and his campaign to compare his Internet sexcapades — and his wife Huma Abedin’s incredible forgiveness — to the Clintons’ notorious White House saga, The Post has learned.

“The Clintons are upset with the comparisons that the Weiners seem to be encouraging — that Huma is ‘standing by her man’ the way Hillary did with Bill, which is not what she in fact did,’’ said a top state Democrat.

Hahahahahahaha.

P.S. I already explained how Bill and Hillary were nothing like Weiner and Huma. They were far worse.

128 Responses to “Billary Livid About Comparison to Weiner”

  1. Hillary!(tm) does not want anyone stealing her mojo.

    SPQR (768505)

  2. You know, it is important at this time to remind EVERYONE about the “vast right wing conspiracy” bit that Hillary invented during an interview…about Bill’s bimbos…which turned out to be true.

    I used to get so sick of the MSM demanding that GWB “apologize” for things. Maybe Hillary should.

    Except we know the drill: deny, divert, and the claim it is ancient history.

    Which is why they are mad at Huma right now.

    Simon Jester (e7ff72)

  3. Weiner and Huma are the ones who should be livid.

    Far as I know Weiner didn’t lie under oath, subjugate helpless interns/subordinates, threaten same when exposed nor require a bimbo brigade.

    harkin (576452)

  4. “They were far worse.”

    Indeed, the likes of O’Beria would merely have fetched their coffee.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  5. “Hahahahahahaha”. Right on. Now because Huma is a Muslim, for the forgiveness and tears tour, does Weiner have to substitute out black preachers for Louie Farrakhan?

    jb (2dd1b8)

  6. real housewives of fascist trash

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  7. Hillary: Bill?
    Bill: Yes, dear.
    Hillary: If you’d been married to Huma instead of me, would you still have uh you know …?
    Hillary: Oh hell yeah, honey. Ain’t no way I can keep it in my pants, no matter who I’m married to.
    Bill: You always know how the say the nicest things, Bill.

    nk (875f57)

  8. No, I did not mess up the names on purpose but maybe I should have. Two bodies, one soul.

    nk (875f57)

  9. I don’t get it. I would think that having Bill Clinton officiate at your wedding pretty much announces that it is a sham arrangement built upon political expediency.

    JVW (23867e)

  10. sounds like they don’t believe imitation is the best form of flattery after all…

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  11. Hillary Clinton aided and abetted Bill Clinton in his philandering and womanizing ways.

    AT BEST.

    She may have been an enabler for his alleged sexual assault and definitely aided in covering up and/or discrediting any possible witnesses/victims.(see: bimbo eruptions)

    She and he have had a political marriage almost since day one at Yale.

    An examination of her “career” and various escapades at the Rose Law firm would indicate that she used her marriage/relationship with the Governor of Arkansas to perpetrate illegal schemes for the sole purpose of financial and political gain.

    She is a mediocre administrator, a weak and ineffectual speaker and is unable to stand up to any scrutiny of her past or present.

    Her appearance on tv for that critical interview made the difference and she lied throughout.

    Just like HUMA has.

    Jcw46 (6106c6)

  12. Somehow I think the old monogamous married couple model is not generally believed or followed by progressives. Which makes me suspect their overall agenda in tinkering with the institution.

    Feel free to link this to the 72% unmarried birth rate in the progressive Black community, compelling religious objectors to pay for birth control, and general support for euthanasia-abortion.

    They are leading us to Generation Z, the end of the line.

    Amphipolis (d3e04f)

  13. If the Democrat Party really wanted Weiner out, he’d be gone. Instead, they allow him to remain unzipped and flopping around, pretending they’re disturbed at his behavior while working behind the scenes to paper towel the mess. HA is incredibly valuable to the Left. That’s being downplayed for the moment. Weiner has left elites and little people feeling dissatisfied. But, his worth has not been destroyed in entirety.

    Color_Me_Cuckoo (96b0c0)

  14. If he wagged his Weiner on line or in public square, what does it matter?!?!

    Colonel Haiku (146aeb)

  15. pecker tracks on the astro-turfed bed of Bill’s El Camino…

    Colonel Haiku (146aeb)

  16. bill clinton has the herpes whereas anthony weiner as far as we know does NOT have the herpes

    so that is a vivid contrast

    happyfeet (c60db2)

  17. harkin: What are the SWATters if not Weiner’s bimbo brigade?

    luagha (5cbe06)

  18. Remind me again of whom is engaging in a “War On Women”?

    askeptic (b8ab92)

  19. At least when Weiner says he did not have sex with that woman, it is probably true.

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  20. 8. No, I did not mess up the names on purpose but maybe I should have. Two bodies, one no soul.

    Comment by nk (875f57) — 7/29/2013 @ 8:46 am

    FTFY.

    Steve57 (a65996)

  21. The Left own these walking catastrophes in their party. At what point does the hardcore Left decide enough is enough and put an end to propping up spent members of their party. What does humanity have to endure before the people in charge stop the assault, pull the plug and end the pain. Keeping seats blue at any cost no matter how many women get hurt by coddling overly sexualized middle aged toddlers is repugnantly irresponsible. We taxpayers simply cannot afford what will come down the pike.

    Color_Me_Cuckoo (96b0c0)

  22. At what point does the hardcore Left decide enough is enough and put an end to propping up spent members of their party.

    Never.

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  23. bill clinton has the herpes whereas anthony weiner as far as we know does NOT have the herpes

    Also, Mr. Feet, the rumor dating from the Paula Jones testimony is that Bill’s member is dog-legged left (naturally), whereas the pictures of weiner’s Weiner from The Dirty indicate that it is — how to say — traditionally shaped.

    JVW (23867e)

  24. Gotta be careful here, some of this is the Left’s refusal to actually uphold any ethical boundaries on its darlings. But some of this is the power elite’s contempt for the masses, regardless of ideology.

    Weiner and Abedin are prime examples of the crony version of politics. They got into the corridors of power and are now tapped into the corruption troughs full time. (That’s how they pay for that tony lifestyle without ever having a real job in their lives) Those troughs are tended by the power elites bagmen and those bagmen don’t want to lose their investment.

    SPQR (768505)

  25. 4th place in Quinnipiac Poll. Hope he’s not feeling too deflated over it. You know, if the Left wanted it to be, there’d be a dirty prick lying flaccid in the bush, adjacent to a driveway while HA hurriedly backs out and peels out of the neighborhood at the speed of light.

    Color_Me_Cuckoo (96b0c0)

  26. Whitewater, Casa Grande, Madison Guaranty S&L, Jennifer Flowers, Mina Airport, cattlebelly futures, the boys on the tracks, Jerry Parks, Bimbo Eruptions, Travelgate, Filegate, Waco, Vince Foster, Rose law firm billing records, Juanita Broaddrick, Monica Lewinsky, Sudan’s aspirin factory, Oklahoma Federal Building, Mrac Rich and pardongate, Fast-n-Furious, Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi.

    It all makes a lot of difference.

    ropelight (bede93)

  27. 3. Weiner and Huma are the ones who should be livid…

    Comment by harkin (576452) — 7/29/2013 @ 8:30 am

    True. But I hear that in the face of rejection by the Democratic power couple, Weiner has become flaccid.

    Steve57 (a65996)

  28. Weiner’s campaign shrivels.
    Working short-staffed.
    Younger women love Weiner.

    And that’s just a quick peek on Drudge.

    nk (875f57)

  29. Hope they reserved some passion against the day they’re deposed by Grand Jury.

    http://nicedeb.wordpress.com/2013/07/29/video-conressman-louie-gohmert-talks-up-rumor-about-benghazi-kidnapping-scheme-on-fox-news/

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  30. OT, but remember how the usual suspects were OK with the food stamp fraud because it was allegedly helping feed people, even if it was a violation of the law?

    turns out that most of the food is being sold on the black market.

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/isle_take_that_welfare_scam_VBsTspIxia2GA9o2oS505L

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  31. this is my surprised face: %-)

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  32. We need a quartet of the world’s tiniest violins.

    htom (412a17)

  33. I’m still ok with it, redc14. I don’t care how hungry people are fed as long as they’re fed. And I’ve already pointed out that it’s American farmers and agribusiness and the politicias from agricultural states, more than sucka** bleeding-hearts like me, who are responsible for the food stamp programs.

    nk (875f57)

  34. The reason Weiner Waver is still in the race is he has a $4 million campaign kiddie and matching funds that he can spend freely as long as he is running for office. Once he drops out they take away that ATM card.

    Bugg (b32862)

  35. and i’m not okay with it because fraud is fraud.

    the immorality of the program is different than criminals stealing from it: both are wrong and neither is acceptable, no matter how many excuses you come up with.

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  36. Why does anybody think that black market food is feeding the hungry?

    elissa (399805)

  37. Bugg #34 – Wiener has a card for being All-Terrain Meshuggeneh ?

    Alastor (bec714)

  38. Because only the hungry would pay black market prices for rice and beans, maybe? We’re not talking rhinoceros meat, here. Just what exactly is the difference between “black market” and “free market”, anyway? The black market would not exist if there were an adequate “white market” food distribution system.

    nk (875f57)

  39. nk #33 – I could possibly be OK with it if it was feeding the genuinely-hungry, rather than feeding the prosperity of varying levels of thieves, fraudsters, and other forms of money-hungry criminal exploiters of others …

    Sadly, too much foreign aid ends up feeding dependency, not the genuinely-hungry …

    Alastor (bec714)

  40. “Just what exactly is the difference between “black market” and “free market”, anyway? The black market would not exist if there were an adequate “white market” food distribution system.”

    nk – As described by redc1c4 above, the criminal act is just like buying designer dresses that fell of the back of a truck at a huge discount to retail. The concept is not rocket surgery. It’s is a fraud on the taxpayers if the person reselling the food should not be eligible for food stamps in the first place, but Dems don’t want to look at food stamp or other government fraud because it implicates part of their base and besides, who needs another “phony” scandal to distract people from President Trayvon’s 573rd pivot to jobs and saving the middle class from his economic policies.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  41. “The black market would not exist if there were an adequate “white market” food distribution system.”

    nk – The issue is an entitlement program, not a food distribution system.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  42. I get it, daleyrocks. I’ll drop it.

    nk (875f57)

  43. heh… huma weiner
    oh no you ain’t, honeychile
    it’s cyberbation

    Colonel Haiku (634e8e)

  44. steponpoupolus
    carville forehead begala
    what does it matter!!!!!

    Colonel Haiku (634e8e)

  45. actually, if you read the story, the food we pay for is being sold below market prices, and off the books, thus damaging the local businesses there, and their employees, plus what ever revenues the government might be due, so we are subsidizing several bad outcomes for the price of one.

    this is not some “victimless” crime that we can nod & wink at…this is wrong on many levels.

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  46. Dear Mrs Pelosi,

    S

    EPWJ (f44e22)

  47. poor poor hillary
    her cookie baked long ago
    truth is in her eyes

    Colonel Haiku (634e8e)

  48. Red said it.

    This kind of ‘charity’ is actually destructive to the food infrastructure of other countries. It leaves these other places in a permanent state of begging and starvation.

    Instead of donating food, or in this case seeing it defrauded from us to enrich criminals among us, we should push for reforms to corrupt governments. But the USA doesn’t have a lot of credibility on corruption these days.

    Dustin (d00b49)

  49. Dear Mrs Former Speaker.

    Which swamp are you going to drain this week? The former Gov of New York,or the Former of NJ who stole 1.7 billion. Or maybe close to home, are you draining the stain in Santos Diegos? Or you could grab a wiener on the streets of New York while singing that insipid NNNeeeewwww York song. Or maybe you could go to the Deomcrats who tried to block the time immemorial photo of the three fire fighters raising the Stars and stripe (that’s what patriots call the flag)

    So what are you doing first? Did you remember all those promises to America?

    Sincerely

    Dustin…..

    (you know big brother is watching… :) )

    EPWJ (f44e22)

  50. “I get it, daleyrocks. I’ll drop it.”

    nk – If you want to promote government waste and fraud, by all means proceed.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  51. MD and Beldar made the arguments much more cogently in the original thread.

    nk (875f57)

  52. P.S. I already explained how Bill and Hillary were nothing like Weiner and Huma. They were far worse.

    That’s why various forms of corruption — both social and economic — are more likely to flourish when the left is ascendant and in charge of things.

    By contrast, I can’t think of any major, prominent right-leaning politician — a registered Republican or otherwise — who has the smarmy, scroungy background of a Bill and Hillary, but who has nonetheless remained in good keeping with the conservative establishment and been feted by it and much of the rightist populace.

    Mark (938403)

  53. Not only is the comparison appropriate, the Clintons made it possible for politicians like Weiner to engage in questionable sexual activity and believe they could resume their political careers. Resuming a successful career after a sex scandal was impossible before Bill and Hillary came along. Bill and Hillary not only made it possible, they made it look reasonable.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  54. The democrats call this a new pudenda agenda

    Haile Tsada (5ee790)

  55. I always say, “If the condom fits, wear it.”

    Mike K (dc6ffe)

  56. condoms are for closers

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  57. imagine bill’s presidency in the age of smartphones, youtube, and social media.

    wattup (04f0de)

  58. Mike K., haven’t seen enough of you around lately.

    SPQR (768505)

  59. speaking of liberal perverts, Brett Kimberlin’s wife is accusing him of pedophilia. Details here.

    Aaron "Worthing" Walker (23789b)

  60. Inspired by elements of this discussion, here I am, recommending another book to my fellow commenters. The Known World by Edward P. Jones won the Pulitzer Prize and the National Book Award. Jones explores an oft-neglected chapter of American history, the world of blacks who owned other blacks in the antebellum South. Most interestingly it is a book written by a black man about free blacks who became black slaveholders.

    Set in Manchester County, Virginia, 20 years before the Civil War began, Edward P. Jones’s debut novel, The Known World, is a masterpiece of overlapping plot lines, time shifts, and heartbreaking details of life under slavery. Caldonia Townsend is an educated black slaveowner, the widow of a well-loved young farmer named Henry, whose parents had bought their own freedom, and then freed their son, only to watch him buy himself a slave as soon as he had saved enough money. Although a fair and gentle master by the standards of the day, Henry Townsend had learned from former master about the proper distance to keep from one’s property. After his death, his slaves wonder if Caldonia will free them. When she fails to do so, but instead breaches the code that keeps them separate from her, a little piece of Manchester County begins to unravel. Impossible to rush through, The Known World is a complex, beautifully written novel with a large cast of characters, rewarding the patient reader with unexpected connections, some reaching into the present day.

    elissa (399805)

  61. Darn. wrong thread. sorrry

    elissa (399805)

  62. speaking of liberal perverts, Brett Kimberlin’s wife is accusing him of pedophilia. Details here.

    Comment by Aaron “Worthing” Walker (23789b) — 7/29/2013

    Wow.

    Dustin (303dca)

  63. speaking of liberal perverts,

    There have been cases of conservatives (who presumably should have known better) being stung by licentious behavior, which makes me think if it can be bad or unpredictable on the right side of the ideological spectrum, it must be an outright zoo, carnival and three-ring circus on the left. It must be really bad for those who not only don’t intrinsically have much or any shame about bad behavior (theirs or others–certainly if they’re also on the left), but who even sneer at the idea that so-called decorum should be taken seriously.

    Too bad Kimberlin is a parasite that tries to attach itself to innocent people — you being one of his many victims — and then bleed them dry. A deranged leftist must be a sickening, contemptible species to observe up close and personal. And although I suspect that is true of any extremist, left or right, ultra-liberals seems to have a corner on that market (ie, perversion).

    Mark (938403)

  64. So. Hillary could be said to be tumescent?

    Jcw46 (6106c6)

  65. Wiener needs a new campaign manager, Kimberlin might already be on the short list. He’d fit right in.

    ropelight (f5b2c4)

  66. Ropelight,

    You’d be surprised how accurate that joke possibly is, albeit I think with a degree or two of separation.

    Dustin (303dca)

  67. Kimberlin will be at home in a orange jump suit.

    mg (31009b)

  68. Good Lord, Aaron.

    nk (875f57)

  69. And for a palate cleanser, I think, yes http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/anthony_weiner_sext_girl_bikini_JaqFvJBKQulQCQGmQDIx8M?photo_num=4

    Yes, she is Monicaesque and it is not a bikini but her elbows are not too pointy.

    nk (875f57)

  70. maybe a pic of the former Ms Snowden, but that doesn’t qualify as a palate cleanser;

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/354730/nbc-pres-behind-hillary-series-put-historically-questionable-anti-reagan-film-air-2003

    narciso (3fec35)

  71. It’s time for the Left to have a Weiner cookout. Bro Char!

    http://imgur.com/r/pics/iFq1PZV

    Color_Me_Cuckoo (96b0c0)

  72. 57. Comment by wattup (04f0de) — 7/29/2013 @ 9:45 pm

    imagine bill’s presidency in the age of smartphones, youtube, and social media.

    When he first ran for President, there were only BBSs. And also Compu$erve, and usenet newsgroups.

    There was also Relaynet (linked BBSs) which functioned better than Internet newsgroups and e-mail (a public TO: field)

    They had to invent the Internet to get rid of me.

    I spoiled RIME for them, and hen there was that e-mail I sent on July 19, 1993. routed overnight through Rochester which arrived in the morning of July 20, 1993.

    Sammy Finkelman (a1e8fb)

  73. 60 Virginia?? Wouldn’t it make more sense to set that in Louisiana?

    Sammy Finkelman (a1e8fb)

  74. Weiner had an interview in the New York Daily News today:

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/election/hamill-weiner-opens-campaign-article-1.1412236

    On this question:

    Q. What about this idea that your campaign might hurt Hillary Clinton’s political future because of her relationship with Huma?

    A. Those people chattering about bank-shot implications of my campaign don’t matter to me. And I bet most citizens when they get up in the morning and feed their daughter breakfast, send her off to a failing local public school, and go off to a job site where he’s now a part-time worker so the boss doesn’t have to give him benefits, and he comes home and the neighborhood shopping isn’t what it used to be…I don’t think that guy, when he tunes into politics for five minutes he or she can spare a day, I don’t think he cares about my private life. I think he’s saying which of these guys is gonna fight for me. So I don’t think this other stuff really matters that much. I’m betting the house that it doesn’t.

    Sammy Finkelman (a1e8fb)

  75. Also:

    Q. Is Huma going to continue campaigning for you?

    A. Yes, I think so. You guys in the press kept asking “When is Huma gonna come out to campaign?” Then she did and gave a statement in a press conference. Then she had to go out of town on business and you ask when she’s coming back.

    Look, Huma is committed to the campaign and she’s been an enormous asset to it and I am sure she will continue to be.

    Before we started the interview, you received a call from Huma. Do you two talk a lot during the day?

    A. All the time. We’re married. We have a baby together. She’s in Washington DC today and was concerned because the baby hasn’t been eating properly. Something called a coxsackie infection of the throat. We talk about that. I’m running for mayor. She calls to ask how that’s going. We talk all the time.

    Sammy Finkelman (a1e8fb)

  76. What a jackalope, that stupid law he passed, makes them go to part time, QE 2 makes the food budget that much smaller, and if he has his ways, the cops will be utterly unable to protect the citizenry.

    narciso (3fec35)

  77. There is a discrepancy between what Weiner says and waht Sydney Ltherss says. Sydney Lethers says this continued until November. Anthony Weiner seems to say this was over a year ago. (of course he could be talking about one of the other cases))

    Q. The second wave of sexting headlines has affected you in the polls. How has it affected you at home, your marriage?

    A. It’s hard, because remember that what’s at the foundation of all this is something that I did to my wife. So it’s very hard to have it come back no matter how much we might have expected it. It’s hard to be reminded how much dishonor I brought upon not just myself but especially my wife.

    Q. Does it come up at the dinner table, at breakfast, in private moments with Huma?

    A. You must remember this isn’t something that happened yesterday. For us, this is an issue that’s over a year old. And we’d gotten to this really great place with each other and we’d put it behind us to a place where we felt comfortable enough to move ahead to run for mayor. For us, this was a distant event. That doesn’t change the fact that it’s very hard to have it come up again.

    Later in the interview:

    Q. There is no one you are sexting now?

    A. You can quibble about beginnings, middles and ends but what we’re talking about is over a year ago.

    I see. The beginning was almost two years ago (soon after he left Congress) the middle was a year ago (last July) and the end was maybe last November.

    Sammy Finkelman (a1e8fb)

  78. I don’t think this other stuff really matters that much. I’m betting the house that it doesn’t.

    — And this would be the multi-million dollar ‘house’, owned by a friend of the Clintons, in which you and your family live rent-free, would it?

    Icy (889ed4)

  79. 74. THe New York Times writer just assumed it stopped when he was publicly exposed. It’s not really his fault.

    I assume that the way Anthony Weiner and Huma Abedin talked about it strongly implied that that was the end..a better question is why didn’t he check the record or why was he not more skeptical in general.

    Sammy Finkelman (a1e8fb)

  80. With the accent on “maybe,” Sammy.

    Icy (889ed4)

  81. I had the opportunity to work with a secret service agent for a two day period in a charity event. He currently works the Bush II detail. I asked him what it was like to work for the various individuals. he made the following comments – though in very guarded and diplomatic terms.
    Bush I & II – both genuine and nice
    Barbara & Laura – both genuine and nice
    Obama – He had not worked the obama detail but the Washington detail reports that he is much nicer in person than depicted (I interpreted that as O being okay and not the jerk as often depicted)(I did not ask about michelle)
    Bill C – great as long as you let him be the center of attention
    Hillary – “she is not a nice person”

    Keep in mind that his comments were both diplomatic and guarded. His comment regarding hillary was both blunt and as diplomatic as it could have been. Draw your own conclusions regarding Hillary.

    Joe (debac0)

  82. The primary is six weeks from today. With any luck this will all be over soon.

    Icy (889ed4)

  83. WEINER: “I don’t think this other stuff really matters that much. I’m betting the house that it doesn’t.”

    Comment by Icy (889ed4) — 7/30/2013 @ 6:46 am

    And this would be the multi-million dollar ‘house’, owned by a friend of the Clintons, in which you and your family live rent-free, would it?

    This is obviously a term borrowed from poker, meaning he’s putting in all his chips, meaning he’s staking his whole political career on this.

    He’s not living rent free (ina condominium I think)

    He and Huma Abedin have enough Clinton-arranged and inspired income to cover the rent.

    He is a little bit rich right now (thanks to Billary of course) and in a New York Magazine profile written before the latest revelations you can read:

    http://nymag.com/news/features/anthony-weiner-2013-7/index5.html#print

    When Huma brought over some cookies and a cup of coffee, Weiner told her not to say how much the flat little things cost per pound. “He’ll just write how rich we are,” he remarked.

    Sammy Finkelman (a1e8fb)

  84. Keep in mind that Anthony and Huma aren’t really married. Bill Clinton officiated at the fancy Long Island (dog and pony show) ceremony, but Slick’s not recognized to perform marriages in the State of New York.

    Maybe that wouldn’t be a big deal, or much of a deal at all, in ordinary situations involving ordinary people, but anything to do with the Clintons or with Wiener and Abedin isn’t ordinary and can’t be taken at face value. When the Clinton’s are involved values often get short shrift.

    We’re talking about people who’ll quibble over the meaning of is when the chips are down.

    Nothing is beyond them, nothing at all, from organized character assassination to strong-arm tactics to lying under oath to cold-blooded murder most foul, and with a Hillary run for the Dem nod in the offing you can bet your bippy Hillary’s revisionists will be working overtime to consign all those Arckacides to the memory hole. Anyone remember the strange death of Ron Brown?

    MSM was able to frighten the GOP into silence on the issue of Obama’s birth certificate, his relationship with Reverend Wright, and so far on Fast-n-Furious, the suppression of the TEA Party, NSA, and Benghazi. Success breeds success.

    ropelight (9c6ad9)

  85. A minor league baseball team is having fun with this – Richmond Flying Squirrels serve $1 weiners on “Salute to Scandal Night”

    carlitos (49ef9f)

  86. I said that Bill and Hillary Clinton were managing his entire life. Someone asked why would they do it. Maybe that could be a question, but they definiteky seem to be doing it.

    At the time the marriage was arranged, Weiner looked like someone with very good prospects for becoming mayor, especially with Clinton help in fundraising.

    I would say Bill Clinton knows that election races can be lost and still a career continue. Not everything he tried succeeded.

    He ran for Congress in 1974 on the watergate – the issue and lost. And before that Senator J. William Fulbright, whom he undoubtably had hoped to succeed in 1980, lost the primary to Dakle Bumpers. There went Plan A. So he set himself up to be leader of the freshman class of Democrats in 1975, which he was almost instrumental in creating as a distinct group – and then didn’t win the House election. There went Plan B.

    So he picked himself up and ran for Attorney General of Arkansas 2 years later and then Governor in 1978 – and then was defeated for re-election in 1980 to a Republican. He had counted om yellow dog democrats to vote for hm but they were upset about a rise in the price of license tags, as they are called there, and the riot oin Ft. Chaffee. It looked like his political career in elective office was over. But he turned down the opportunity to become Chairman of the Democratic National Committee.

    Sammy Finkelman (a1e8fb)

  87. One recalls AQ was plotting and Clinton refused to pull the trigger on at least one occasion;

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4411028,00.html

    narciso (3fec35)

  88. If Bill & Hillary are managing his entire life, then they are both piss-poor managers.

    Icy (889ed4)

  89. carlitos – I hope the Flying Squirrels hold a Kielbasa Queen contest during the Seventh Inning Stretch.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  90. Then he ran again. Ths is when he got money from someone who was a cocaine dealer, Dan Lasater.. He was imporeting cocaine by plane into Mena Arkansas I would guess. Not the CIA and certanly nt for the contras. It was all over by the time the cntras needed money in 1985.

    There was damger of him not making the runoff but Mary Lee Orsini, who had arramged the murder of Alice McArthur claimed to be carrying on an affair with Jim Guy Tucker, so Tucker didn’t make the runoff. The first attempt to murder Alice McArthur was made by bomb, and that was inestigated by J WIlliam Buford head of the BATF in Littl Rock, who later on became the chief instigator of the Waco raid. He was a Friend of Bill.

    Anyway, after managing to gte re-elected in 1984 by having his opponent in the democratic primary be Orval Faubus, and geeting the Arkansas constitution amended so as to give the Governor a 4-year term starting in 1986, he created Super Tuesday intending ti run for President in 1988. He then didn’t run allgedly because his daughter was young and later they said bimbos, but bimbos were still a problem in 192 – I think the real reason was he was not the only southerner in the race – there was also Al Gore – and his whole strategy depended on being the only southerner in the race plus a secret alliance with Jesse Jackson. (they both got money from BCCI)

    And in 1992 there were downs and ups.

    Bill Clinton knows that not every plan has to work for the ultimate plan to succeed.

    But Anthorny Weiner doesn’t really have other chances. The money he raised for a race for mayor before June 2011, won’t come to him again.

    He’s betting he whole pot.

    Sammy Finkelman (a1e8fb)

  91. 90. Comment by Icy (889ed4) — 7/30/2013 @ 7:15 am

    If Bill & Hillary are managing his entire life, then they are both piss-poor managers.

    His entire financial life, where he lives, his political career and public relations.

    They are not perfect. The coming ot of Huma didn’t work too well. and then they are dealing with Anthony Weiner.

    Anthony Weiner may have fooled them about the sexting continuing, or at least about the ability to keep that hidden.

    Says Weiner now:

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/election/hamill-weiner-opens-campaign-article-1.1412236#ixzz2aXTcyaCa

    Q. Is there yet another woman’s shoe about to drop in this campaign?

    A. I have no idea. These are people who I thought were friends, people I trusted when I communicated with them. But who knows what they might do now. But none of it is new. It’s all old stuff. So I’ll be in this race for at least the next 44 days. And I think I can win.

    Sammy Finkelman (a1e8fb)

  92. ropelight, I’m gonna go with Jordan Weiner is NOT a bastard, but his father is.

    Icy (889ed4)

  93. the OJ case was enough of self involved merrygoround while larger issues, percolated;

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/egypt/10210837/Egypt-Mohammed-Morsi-well-says-Baroness-Ashton.html

    narciso (3fec35)

  94. Hill Billy and Co. are one tentacle of the thing that’s keeping the Hot Dog Vendor out there in everyone’s face. His mentor is another wet, squishy arm. There’s payback to be had for the years of “investment”.

    Color_Me_Cuckoo (96b0c0)

  95. The Clintons can play us for suckers, saps and fools because too many of us (ie, the elite that hovers around and hugs them, the large portion of the public that gives them nice ratings in the polls, people like Barbara Bush who treat them like loveable rogues) are, in fact, suckers, saps and fools.

    Too many of us have the subtle, hidden reactions of someone like a “Forumer Conservative” mixed together with a bit of Sammy Finkelman, with an added touch of EPWJ (or that forumer who generally is of the right but who treated Zimmerman like he was the devil incarnate and, in turn, made Martin out to be a sad little soul). Hell, Patterico has noted that a crucial part of his personal life — his wife, no less — leans left, and he is comfortable with the concept of same-sex marriage.

    It wasn’t all that long ago (and certainly when I was growing up) that I fell for the idea that liberal biases made a person perhaps more humane, generous, tolerant and compassionate than he or she otherwise would be.

    Mark (938403)

  96. Poor Anthony. He must be a bundle of nerves. This just proves that having old “girlfriends” who are “composites” is much safer than having real ones you carry on with over the internets.

    elissa (861226)

  97. Barbara Bush acts with the grace and class of which former first ladies are supposed to act regarding other presidential families. Leave her alone, Mark, and quit calling her names please.

    elissa (861226)

  98. “These are people who I thought were friends, people I trusted when I communicated with them. But who knows what they might do now.”

    — Yeah, um . . . his therapy seems to be going well.
    *-)

    Icy (889ed4)

  99. Minor correction… Hillary is livid, Bill is turgid…

    Colonel Haiku (404b97)

  100. Barbara Bush acts with the grace and class

    Elissa, she is very much the type of person who I was describing, and that isn’t meant to be an insult but a characterization of hard reality. She’s a person who isn’t of the left, is generally (presumably) more conservative than liberal, yet who has gut reactions that lead to…

    swampland.time.com, April 2013:

    In an interview Thursday with NBC‘s Today show, she was asked if her son Jeb should run for President in 2016. “He’s by far the most qualified man,” she said. “But no.” And she didn’t stop there. “I think it’s a great country,” she continued. “There are a lot of great families, and it’s not just four families or whatever. There are other people out there that are very qualified. We’ve had enough Bushes.”

    In the 1992 Presidential campaign, she said that the Republican Party should not take a position on abortion and homosexuality, arguing that they were personal matters. “I hate abortion but could just not make that decision for somebody else,” she went on to say.

    In 2010, she was asked about Sarah Palin. “I sat next to her once, thought she was beautiful, and I think she’s very happy in Alaska,” Bush said, before adding, “and I hope she’ll stay there.”

    Why did you imply I was calling Barbara Bush names? That my describing what makes people like her tick is somehow casting aspersions upon them?

    I’m not totally sure if the core of your response is what leads to the phenomenon of political correctness, but it’s leaning in that direction. Moreover — and this is the point I was making above — you’re not even a dyed-in-the-wool liberal. Therefore, you and others should fully understand why political correctness is running amok, and why it probably is gonna get worse before it gets better (hello, Nidal Hasan!).

    Mark (938403)

  101. Oh I dunno. Your inclusion of BB in with the “suckers saps and fools” category kind of smacked of unnecessary name calling. I do appreciate being alerted to, and educated by you concerning my many faults– as well as the helpful long distance psychological analysis of others that you so freely provide to us, though, Mark.

    elissa (861226)

  102. They helped rehabilitate Clinton, their retainers like Nicole Wallace, put ‘Julianne’ Bender’ to life,
    so no it’s not much of a stretch.

    narciso (3fec35)

  103. Are your referring to the hot blond and very twisted Nicole Wallace on Law & Order who’s made several appearances as an Australian serial killer?

    ropelight (9c6ad9)

  104. MAYBE IT’S ALL RIGHT IF HE DOESN’T SEND ANY PICTURES?

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  105. No, the other one, but they both blonde and evil.

    narciso (3fec35)

  106. 85. Comment by ropelight (9c6ad9) — 7/30/2013 @ 6:59 am

    Keep in mind that Anthony and Huma aren’t really married. Bill Clinton officiated at the fancy Long Island (dog and pony show) ceremony, but Slick’s not recognized to perform marriages in the State of New York.

    I think it is unlikely that they are not officially married, because the marriage took place while he was still in Congress, and if they were not married his financial disclosure or other forms would be wrong or unnecessary.

    That story about Bill Clintonmarrying them doesn’t make sense but i am not sure of teh siurce. The Wikipedia article that says that Bill Clinton married them links to a Daily News story about their engagement.

    Now I could think of a reason why they might lie about how exactly and by whom the marriage was performed.

    Perhaps they were married by an imam, and for these purposes, Anthony Weiner pretended to be a Moslem.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  107. 85. Comment by ropelight (9c6ad9) — 7/30/2013 @ 6:59 am

    Keep in mind that Anthony and Huma aren’t really married. Bill Clinton officiated at the fancy Long Island (dog and pony show) ceremony, but Slick’s not recognized to perform marriages in the State of New York.

    He’s not a judge, and he holds and never held any office in New York State. This may have been a cover to hide how they were really legally married. BUt I don’t have asource for the claim that Bill Clinton married them.

    Wikipedia claims that buit the footnote foes to an article about their enbgagement.

    The wazshington Post says that today:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/anthony-weiner-huma-abedins-troubles-could-become-liability-for-hillary-clinton/2013/07/30/db47c33c-f922-11e2-b018-5b8251f0c56e_story.html

    But what they are actually doing is quoting a comment from somebody named Rachel Weiner (apparently no relation) poossibly working for the Qui

    The connection is real; Bill Clinton officiated the couple’s wedding.

    http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/NEWS/w8_letter.pdf

    The ceremony may have been irrelevant but they did probably get married because he was still in Congress at the time and he needed to file financial disclosure forms and all sorts of other public documents identifying her as his spouse.

    I think it’s possible maybe they were married by an imam, but Anthony Weiner couldn’t publicly say that, so it was arranged for Bill Clinton to enact a public ceremomey.

    Maybe that wouldn’t be a big deal, or much of a deal at all, in ordinary situations involving ordinary people, but anything to do with the Clintons or with Wiener and Abedin isn’t ordinary and can’t be taken at face value. When the Clinton’s are involved values often get short shrift.

    We’re talking about people who’ll quibble over the meaning of is when the chips are down.

    Nothing is beyond them, nothing at all, from organized character assassination to strong-arm tactics to lying under oath to cold-blooded murder most foul, and with a Hillary run for the Dem nod in the offing you can bet your bippy Hillary’s revisionists will be working overtime to consign all those Arckacides to the memory hole. Anyone remember the strange death of Ron Brown?

    MSM was able to frighten the GOP into silence on the issue of Obama’s birth certificate, his relationship with Reverend Wright, and so far on Fast-n-Furious, the suppression of the TEA Party, NSA, and Benghazi. Success breeds success.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  108. Meanwhile Hillary Clinton has been in Washington (Huma too, indicated Weiner!) meeting and being photographed first with President Barack Obama, then with Joe Biden, purpose unclear – a mystery to reporters.

    Sammy Finkelman (da8ac2)

  109. Weiner isn’t quitting, he told his people today – CBS Evening News with Scott Pelley, Bob Schieffer substituting.

    Sammy Finkelman (da8ac2)

  110. Breitbart:

    Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton will reportedly campaign for family friend and Democrat Virginia gubernatorial candidate Terry McAuliffe in the coming months, reminding Virginians of the connections between McAuliffe and the Clintons and the scandals associated with both.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  111. 110. Colonel Bristol was deposed in private today.

    Presumably the room was swept.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  112. I think it’s possible maybe they were married by an imam, but Anthony Weiner couldn’t publicly say that, so it was arranged for Bill Clinton to enact a public ceremomey.

    I would be interested in seeing the imam who is cool with marrying a Muslim woman to a Jewish guy.

    JVW (23867e)

  113. and educated by you concerning my many faults

    Elissa, your faults are evident in just about any and every human out there. For example, Ronald Reagan’s biggest blunder was when he allowed his do-gooder sentiments to get the better of him and he went against his own publicly stated policy of never dealing with a hostage-taking nation. From that was born the mess of Iran-Contra.

    Mark (938403)

  114. ==Elissa, your faults are evident in just about any and every human out there.==

    O Really? Fascinating. So, just to keep the convo going what are your human faults, Mark? Do you yourself have some hangups or biases or tics that are obvious to you in the same way you seem to pick up vibes about other people and what makes them tick? Self analysis is probably not as much fun as passing judgement and criticizing others but have you ever given it a go?

    elissa (861226)

  115. I would be interested in seeing the imam who is cool with marrying a Muslim woman to a Jewish guy.

    Comment by JVW

    Imam Shecky alPolmaphinga… you can google it…

    Colonel Haiku (eb3ee0)

  116. So, just to keep the convo going what are your human faults, Mark?

    Elissa, exactly as I described in the post you’re referring to. That is, my originally falling for the idea that liberal biases made a person perhaps a bit more caring and compassionate — a bit less likely to be stereotypically intolerant — than he or she otherwise would be. It took me quite awhile before I realized that not only was that not the case, but just the opposite often was true and evident.

    And now I see the madness and derangement of — and am living in the middle of — a Nidal-Hasan-ized society.

    Mark (938403)

  117. I don’t know. You just don’t come across as a very happy or fulfilled person, Mark. Are you able to find beauty in the world? Do you have any hobbies or interests or passions that do not directly involve Alec Baldwin, Nidal Hasan or President Obama’s sex life?

    elissa (861226)

  118. Are you able to find beauty in the world?

    Elissa, do you think that musing about things like that would be pertinent or make sense in a forum focusing on politics? I get the feeling you’re analogous to someone who is browsing a blog on, say, cooking, and is miffed that certain posters are raising the issue of why some foods taste good, some foods taste bad.

    Mark (938403)

  119. 116.118.119.120. Mark, I do think there’s a great deal more to life than politics, even though as with most posters here politics is a particular interest of mine. Many posters here (including our host) regularly comment on such wide ranging topics as music, children, our parents/spouses/exes, higher education, books, sports, business, our professions, illnesses, vacations, recipes, cars, plane crashes, death notices, pets, etc, etc. It makes the blog fun, human, and over time brings the on-line commenters to life even though we wouldn’t recognize them if we walked by each other on the street. And you know, it’s funny–in contrast, you’ve said very little about yourself; we know nothing about you–your general age, where you live, educational background, or what you do/did for a living.

    I’m certain I’m not the only one who is starting to find your particular assumptions and obsessions coupled with overly personal “musings” about what makes other commenters here tick to be creepy and inappropriate. You just couldn’t resist telling me the “feeling” you get about me @120 even when I asked you to quit it up at 103 after you insultingly “characterized” me, a lifelong conservative, as “not even a dyed in the wool liberal” in 102 apparently because I stood up for Barbara Bush. WTF? Was I too subtle? You just did the analysts couch thing again to Ag80 on a newer thread. And you can’t resist analyzing Sammy and others as well. Did you know it is possible to make points and even to argue with people’s positions without dissecting them or treating them as lab specimens? Yes, one can! It is done by commenters here all the time!

    elissa (4594f1)

  120. elissa – I think Mark secretly pines for the Pampas of the past, where bisexual gauchos can roam free.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  121. Mark, I am beginning to be disturbed by your statements to elissa.

    SPQR (768505)

  122. Make like a duck and let it roll off your back. We’re just commenters on someone else’s blog. Some people have different ways of communicating. Echo chambers are smug, boring places. I’m for letting the Bickersons have at it until one or both get shadow banned. If someone works my nerves, I just give him/her/them the permanent ig.

    Color_Me_Cuckoo (96b0c0)

  123. Ace of Spades about Clinton inspired leaks about Weiner:

    Who Will Rid Me of This Troublesome Weiner? Hillary, Fearing a Storyline Mentioning Her Own Tammy Wynette Act, Sets the Democratic Dogs to Weiner & Huma

    And, I think, together with Bill, arranges for the leaked release of the Monica Lewinsky tape in order to push the Anthony Weiner story almost off the front page of the National Enquirer. (remember the URL)

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  124. Monday night:

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/new-poll-shows-weiner-free-fall-article-1.1411971

    “I am not terribly interested in what people who are not voters in the city of New York have to say,” Weiner said in response to a question about whether the former president and secretary of state, who live in Westchester County, could influence his decision.

    Tuesday morning:

    http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/weiner-waves-spitzer-clarifies-comments-clintons-article-1.1413348

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  125. Quote from the paper:

    “There was no intent to disrespect,” he insisted, saying he had “enormous respect” for the couple.

    “They’ve been enormous friends to my wife and my family,”

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/weiner-waves-spitzer-clarifies-comments-clintons-article-1.1413348#ixzz2akz2V1SA

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)


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