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7/26/2013

In Defense of Huma: At Least She’s Not As Pathetically Careerist As Hillary Clinton

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:20 am

If you feel contempt for Huma Abedin — and you should — you should feel far more contempt for Hillary Clinton. She did the same thing, but far, far worse — for the same reason: cynical, pathetic careerism.

As a foil for this argument, let’s examine some nonsense from hack extraordinaire Eleanor Clift:

This strategy worked for the Clintons politically. But after this latest press conference, I’m pretty sure that Abedin has stretched the Hillary mantle past the breaking point.

The essential problem is that the circumstances are very different for Weiner and Abedin than they were for the Clintons.

I’ll say!

Back in the late 1990s, the country’s stability, along with the future of the Democratic Party, hung in the balance. Even in 1992, when Hillary went on 60 Minutes to quell the controversy over Gennifer Flowers, many voters already saw her husband as a potentially transformative political figure, and plenty of them were therefore willing to overlook his transgressions. Weiner, by contrast, is running for mayor of New York City, not president of the United States, and based on his performance in public office so far, he’s not really worth the rest of us trying to forgive or forget what we know of his private behavior.

So if he were running for President of the United States, Democrats like Eleanor Clift would be supporting Weiner, not trashing him? (Answer: absolutely.) But because Weiner is just running for mayor, screw him. That seems to be Clift’s bizarre argument.

I noticed . . . different points of contrast between the two situations. Namely:

  • We have no evidence that Weiner got a blowjob from any of the women with whom he sexted.
  • Weiner did not have a supervisory position over any of the women with whom he had sexual (albeit perhaps just virtual) interaction, as far as we know.
  • Weiner did not lie under oath to a grand jury about this.
  • Weiner did not try to destroy the women who have emerged by calling them liars or sluts.

This is not to excuse Anthony Weiner, a pathological liar who conspired with his wife to lie to America about how he had changed. Here is the point I am making: Bill Clinton did all this and more. And Hillary Clinton supported him publicly, every step of the way.

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Hillary and Huma: Standing by (and lying to the public about) their man.

In the 1990s, if you were a sucker, you might have been fooled into thinking that Hillary actually cared about her marriage. With hindsight, it is clear that she was a careerist. Nothing more.

Just like Huma, but way worse.

If you feel contempt for Huma, you should feel ten times the contempt for Hillary Clinton.

It’s important to understand that the reason any prominent Democrat is throwing Weiner under the bus at this point is because it endangers Hillary’s bid for the Presidency in 2016. The similarity of this situation to her own craven support of a soulless horndog is obvious, and her personal connection to Abedin makes it less likely that journalists will miss the angle. Make no mistake: Hillary Clinton just wants the Anthony Weiner scandal to go away. Because it’s obvious that Huma is trying to follow in Hillary’s footsteps.

196 Responses to “In Defense of Huma: At Least She’s Not As Pathetically Careerist As Hillary Clinton”

  1. scum attracts scum…

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  2. At least she’s not as pathetically careerist as Hillary Clinton and she has much nicer legs too.

    nk (875f57)

  3. The Clintons’ version of marriage does more harm to real marriage than gay marriage would do.

    MT Geoff (a67ef4)

  4. I’m sure Hillary wants Wiener to go away.

    That said, I don’t buy that that’s the source of the general antipathy from the party leadership. The sense I got (from a book I read on the inner workings of the 09-10 Congress) is that people who have worked with Wiener consider him to be a media-hungry blowhard who is more interested in *appearances* than in actually getting work done, and who spent the entirety of his time in Congress trying to use his Congressional office to help him become Mayor rather than doing the job of Congressman.

    Which is to say: his colleagues all hated him.

    aphrael (29500c)

  5. and plenty of them were therefore willing to overlook his transgressions.

    And what was known about him at that time wasn’t nearly as bad as what would come out several years later. I don’t want to stretch the analogies too far, but that’s when I sensed this society started to really enter the throes of Caligula-ization (to be followed by the more recent corollary of Nidal Hasan-ization). And now with Obama-ization, there’s no turning back.

    BTW, since there are so many blog entries on generally the same topic of Hillary/Huma, and to make existing threads attached to them less easy to lose track of, and to die off — or to never get many posts to begin with — I sure wish more threads were interconnected or merged, as was done with the one on Martin/Zimmerman.

    Mark (938403)

  6. Even if Huma has lost Hillary’s public support, I doubt she’s lost Hillary’s patronage. Huma’s silence is valuable to Hillary.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  7. I don’t know how you can say she isn’t as pathetically careerist as Hillary–she stood next to Weiner and said she had forgiven him; that this was over; when she now has admitted that she knew he was still sexting when he announced his candidacy for mayor. She’s either pathetically careerist or pathetically stupid.

    rochf (f3fbb0)

  8. Because it’s obvious that Huma is trying to follow in Hillary’s footsteps.

    — As in ‘running for political office, herself’?

    We shall see.

    Icy (ea303f)

  9. The other person who really, really, really wants Weiner to go away is Eliot Spitzer, who is trying to mount a comeback by running for Comptroller.

    aphrael (29500c)

  10. If you feel contempt for Huma

    I do just on the basis of her jihadist, virulent anti-semitic, “death to Americans” associations and past activities. Her family and she, herself, can all go to Hell/their special paradise.

    Colonel Haiku (45c014)

  11. I can see how Weiner’s baggage reminds people of Spitzer’s history, and that probably is an overall negative for Spitzer. But if Weiner bows out, won’t all that negative attention focus on Spitzer?

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  12. “In Defense of Huma: At Least She’s Not As Pathetically Careerist As Hillary Clinton”

    YET!

    askeptic (b8ab92)

  13. She is certainly still on the Clinton gravy train – see the 360,000 dollar consulting contract she got while still employed at State, from a group Slick Willie is closely affiliated with.

    JD (c703ca)

  14. Worried about 2016 much?

    Leviticus (b98400)

  15. Nevermind. I see that there was an implicit “yes” at the end of the post.

    Leviticus (b98400)

  16. Worried, not in the least.

    If the American People vote (legitimately) to elect Hillary, they will get what they desearve:
    Another 4-8 years of the Cult of Personality.

    askeptic (b8ab92)

  17. I think the important thing to take away from all of this is a shared understanding that any mentor/mentee relationship between two females most likely has lesbian overtones.

    Leviticus (b98400)

  18. a born Democrat…

    Colonel Haiku (45c014)

  19. he peels the layers of teh onion to get at the true heart of the matter…

    Colonel Haiku (45c014)

  20. Leviticus – Other than Mark, where have such overtones been referenced here? Has Patt done so?

    JD (d0fbc9)

  21. I think the important thing to take away from all of this is a shared understanding that any mentor/mentee relationship between two females most likely has lesbian overtones.

    Comment by Leviticus (b98400) — 7/26/2013 @ 8:42 am

    Mark scared me for a moment too but I feel better after seeing Dave Grohl with a beard. He looks nothing like Huma. No there, there.

    nk (875f57)

  22. JD,

    Nah, I’m just messing with Mark.

    Leviticus (b98400)

  23. I know you’ve been less than thrilled with President Obama, so I’m curious about 2016. If elected do you think Hillary would/could be a good president or not, Leviticus? Is there a particular trait or some experience she possesses that you think makes her especially qualified more than most any other Democrat to run in 2016? What if any downsides do you see with her? It’s still early of course but many on the left and right appear to believe Ms Clinton is the inevitable candidate for the Dems. Do you think she is? Do you think that younger voters will go for her, or are you ready and eager to turn out the boomer generation of pols?

    elissa (6f2038)

  24. Spitzer isn’t otherwise doing things to remind people of his past or suggest that he is unreformed.

    aphrael (29500c)

  25. Spitzer has the “tabs” of NYC to do that.

    askeptic (b8ab92)

  26. “Ms. Abedin worked for many years at a journal that promotes Islamic-supremacist ideology that was founded by a top al-Qaeda financier, Abdullah Omar Naseef. Naseef ran the Rabita Trust, a formally designated foreign terrorist organization under American law. Ms. Abedin and Naseef overlapped at the Journal of Muslim Minority Affairs (JMMA) for at least seven years. Throughout that time (1996–2003), Ms. Abdein worked for Hillary Clinton in various capacities.

    Ms. Abedin’s late father, Dr. Zyed Abedin, was recruited by Naseef to run the JMMA in Saudi Arabia. The journal was operated under the management of the World Assembly of Muslim Youth, a virulently anti-Semitic and sharia-supremacist organization. When Dr. Abedin died, editorial control of the journal passed to his wife, Dr. Saleha Mahmood Abedin — Huma’s mother.”

    Colonel Haiku (45c014)

  27. “Saleha Abedin is closely tied to the Muslim Brotherhood and to supporters of violent jihad. Among other things, she directs an organization – the International Islamic Committee for Woman and Child. The IICWC, through its parent entity (the International Islamic Council for Dawa and Relief), is a component of the Union for Good (also known as the Union of Good), another formally designated terrorist organization. The Union for Good is led by Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, the notorious Muslim Brotherhood jurist who has issued fatwas calling for the killing of American military and support personnel in Iraq as well as suicide bombings in Israel. (As detailed here, the Obama White House recently hosted Qaradawi’s principal deputy, Sheikh Abdulla bin Bayyah, who also endorsed the fatwa calling for the killing of U.S. troops and personnel in Iraq.)”

    Colonel Haiku (45c014)

  28. “In the late mid to late Nineties, while she was an intern at the Clinton White House and an assistant editor at JMMA, Ms. Abedin was a member of the executive board of the Muslim Students Association (MSA) at George Washington University, heading its “Social Committee.” The MSA, which has a vast network of chapters at universities across North America, is the foundation of the Muslim Brotherhood’s infrastructure in the United States.”

    Colonel Haiku (45c014)

  29. “Secretary Clinton personally intervened to reverse a Bush-administration ruling that barred Tariq Ramadan, grandson of the Brotherhood’s founder and son of one of its most influential early leaders, from entering the United States.”

    Colonel Haiku (45c014)

  30. ‘On a trip to Egypt, Secretary Clinton pressured General Mohamed Hussein Tantawi, head of the military junta then governing the country, to surrender power to the parliament dominated by the Muslim Brotherhood, and the then–newly elected president, Mohamed Morsi, a top Brotherhood official. She also visited with Morsi; immediately after his victory, Morsi had proclaimed that his top priorities included pressuring the United States to release the Blind Sheikh. Quite apart from the Brotherhood’s self-proclaimed “grand jihad” to destroy the United States . . . the group’s supreme guide, Mohammed Badie, publicly called for jihad against the United States in an October 2010 speech. After it became clear the Brotherhood would win the parliamentary election, Badie said the victory was a stepping stone to “the establishment of a just Islamic caliphate.”’

    Colonel Haiku (45c014)

  31. “Naturally, what did get Washington chattering was a scandal far more typical in Clinton circles — the lucrative arrangement Ms. Abedin struck with Mrs. Clinton’s State Department that allowed her, after returning from maternity leave, to draw a $135,000 State Department salary while remaining in New York, not actually working at Foggy Bottom, and moonlighting as a “strategic consultant” for an outfit called Teneo – founded by Bill Clinton’s chum Doug Band.

    What a racket. The marriage to Huma Abedin, a Clinton insider, enables Anthony Weiner to resurrect a debased career and deflect attention from his psychotic antics even as he continues them. The marriage to Anthony Weiner, a prominent Jewish progressive, enables Huma Abedin to deflect attention from her associations with various Islamic supremacists even as, during her tenure as a top State Department official, American policy embraces Islamic supremacists.”

    Colonel Haiku (45c014)

  32. Spitzer isn’t otherwise doing things to remind people of his past or suggest that he is unreformed.

    But Weiner being in the race, or having been in the race, reminds people of that even if Spitzer’s actions don’t.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  33. Spitzer isn’t otherwise doing things to remind people of his past or suggest that he is unreformed.

    A slight quibble with that, Leviticus. Spritzer is running for office (against his former madam even), so by definition we are continually reminded of his past. And I would argue that the burden of proof is on Spitzer to show that he is a changed man, especially in light of Weiner’s continued lies. One way he could do that is to accept a longer exile from public life.

    JVW (23867e)

  34. “In Defense of Huma: At Least She’s Not As Pathetically Careerist As Hillary Clinton”

    YET!

    Comment by askeptic (b8ab92) — 7/26/2013 @ 8:38 am
    Exactly. Trying to draw exact corollaries and determining who is the least crass/ambitious/etc between HA and HRC isn’t quite comparable yet. HA is 36yo and HRC is 65 yo; and she is more experienced/ “accomplished” than HA. We have to go back to 1983 when HRC was 36…the new 1st lady of Arkansas. Looks to me that HA is on the same track, with the advantage of HRC’s experience…the trend is there

    Angelo (14a0c5)

  35. In short, give HA time; I suspect she will prove to be as repugnant, if not more so, than HRC. So, Patterico, I respectfully submit: There is no defense

    Angelo (14a0c5)

  36. My take on Abedin is that she is quite happy to be in the background and unlike Hillary will not run for office. She doesn’t seem comfortable in public which pols need to be. If she ran for office like Hillary, she would come under more scrutiny than I think she wants given her and her family’s radical ties.

    She obviously has hitched her star to Weiner and Clinton. If Weiner becomes too much of a burden she will dump him and take whatever goodies Clinton and the D party can throw her way which would be substantial.

    Ipso Fatso (1e3278)

  37. “A slight quibble with that, Leviticus.”

    – JVW

    I think that was aphrael who made that comment, JVW.

    Leviticus (b98400)

  38. *it

    Leviticus (b98400)

  39. FTR, I don’t get why people think that Abedin is attractive. May she doesn’t do it for me. But to each his own.

    Ipso Fatso (1e3278)

  40. Leviticus, yes it was.

    The thing is that simply running for office isn’t enough to remind the average NY voter of this past; it’s a low-profile office in terms of media coverage, and the average NY voter isn’t paying close attention outside of media coverage.

    But the media attention on Weiner *is* enough to remind people of Spitzer’s past.

    aphrael (29500c)

  41. That said, if JVW is going to confuse me with another commenter, you’re probably the person I least mind being confused with. :)

    aphrael (29500c)

  42. FTR, I don’t get why people think that Abedin is attractive. May she doesn’t do it for me. But to each his own.

    Comment by Ipso Fatso

    her heavy use of cosmetics and VEET® only add to the allure for some, Ipso. I won’t mention any names… nk… m’kay?

    Colonel Haiku (45c014)

  43. she can photograph well in a swarthy sort of way in the right light…

    Colonel Haiku (45c014)

  44. Damn, my bad on the commenter ID confusion. That’s what happens when you read all the comments but are too lazy to scroll back up and confirm who wrote what.

    JVW (23867e)

  45. FTR, I don’t get why people think that Abedin is attractive. May she doesn’t do it for me. But to each his own.

    Yeah, I go back and forth on this. At first I thought she was very striking, but I was looking at a collection of photos and was forced to acknowledge that she doesn’t always photograph well. I think she has kind of an unfortunate jaw/mouth structure, and doesn’t do herself any favors with that bright red lipstick. She should be calling attention to her lovely dark eyes, not her mouth.

    JVW (23867e)

  46. “That said, if JVW is going to confuse me with another commenter, you’re probably the person I least mind being confused with.”

    – aphrael

    Likewise – although I suspect that my foul mouth, impatience, and general immaturity make us readily distinguishable on most occasions.

    Still, I’m honored by your statement.

    Leviticus (b98400)

  47. The eyes, the hair, the swan-like neck, the collar line like Cupid rested his bow on it, the delightfully slim ankles, the effortless gazelle-like grace, the profile from a coin minted in Susa under Cleopatra …. Sigh.

    nk (875f57)

  48. cute or not cute doesn’t really matter if you’re crippled inside… that always shines through.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCLF7VDz3m4

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  49. She’s a mutt. A frumpy “Sit. Sit. Stay. Good doggy.” mutt.

    So her owner took her to a chic salon for a poodle cut hairdo.

    That doesn’t make her Westminster Kennel Club quality.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  50. Him, pathetic pretend jew. Her, muslim brotherhood. They are just the kind of leadership New York needs.

    TheHat (58d08b)

  51. Colonel Haiku, I just spit out my Skittles laughing at your VEET reference.

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  52. Comment by Angelo (14a0c5) — 7/26/2013 @ 9:50 am

    We have to go back to 1983 when HRC was 36…the new 1st lady of Arkansas.

    I think around that time (1984) Bill Clinton stashed Gennifer Flowers in Dallas, Texas.

    He used to regularly visit her, but told Hillary the purpose of the visits was to plot ways to keep the bank examiners away.

    Which was probably going on in Dallas, too.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  53. Why should Huma be upset about infidelity by a husband ?
    After all, that’s just a silly Judeo-Christian Western Civ ideal.

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  54. good point, ES… in Arab culture, women are treated like the beasts of burden they are in that culture.

    Colonel Haiku (3e1055)

  55. Libs don’t shame easy
    Dems’ Culture of Compulsion®
    chock full of Sick F*cks

    Colonel Haiku (3e1055)

  56. Mayor Filthy Filner… stay classy, San Diego!

    Colonel Haiku (3e1055)

  57. Watch out for the forthcoming new PBS reality-series for children, entitled, “Where in the World is the Mayor of San Diego ?”

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  58. Imaginary Huma and Hillary Emails

    From the Wall Street Journal.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  59. New York Post reports that a lot of Weiner contributions come because of Huma – they’ll support him as long as she does.

    It’s people close to Huma, but not to Hillary, who were giving it says.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  60. Gee, I wonder who those people close to Huma might be (Muslim Brotherhood, cough, cough)

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  61. My take on the above link is that people supported Weiner precisely because Huma is so close to Hillary

    Angelo (14a0c5)

  62. The perverted activities aside, a guy who doesn’t have enough sense (let alone character) to feel mortified and deeply ashamed after being caught doing what Weiner has repeatedly done has no business in public life, much less at the helm of NYC.

    Just sayin’…

    Colonel Haiku (3e1055)

  63. Ipso Fatso, I make it a strong rule never to comment here on who I find attractive and why. :)

    aphrael (29500c)

  64. post #48… you had me getting all day-dreamy, nk, until I realized you actually thought you were describing the equine-faced, VEET® addicted Huma Abedin…

    Colonel Haiku (3e1055)

  65. Comment by Elephant Stone (6a6f37) — 7/26/2013 @ 1:00 pm

    Gee, I wonder who those people close to Huma might be (Muslim Brotherhood, cough, cough)

    They might be people in the Clinton orbit but who know Huma much much better than Hillary. Or they really actually might be people who know Hillary on their own or perhaps they might be closer to Bill. Huma is a gatekeeper to Hillary.

    The New York Post talks about:

    1. DC lawyer John Coale, 66 (who donated $1,000)

    2. Atlanta lawyer Gordon Griffin, 63,, former Ambassador to Canada while Clinton was president, who donated $1,000.

    3. Bob Barnett

    4. Billionaire Haim Saban.

    5. DC real estate agent and former Hillary staffer Dino Milanese (who gave Weiner $2,500)

    (looking for a job recommendation in the future?)

    The article says: “Hillary Clinton’s power bundlers won’t touch Weiner, because they don’t have to. They already have strong enough ties to Hillary.”

    I think it actually may be simply who don’t worry about being embarrassed by having publicly given to Weiner (maybe because they are a little old now) and/or who may have personal ties to Huma.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  66. There is a big problem of course about the way Eliot Spitzer conducted his office as Attorney General. Often investigating, often groundless, or unjustified.

    He can’t do the same kind of damage as Comptroller. maybe could do some good, but he seems to be too interested in shareholder resolutions on corporations New York City invests in.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  67. Colonel,

    It may just be that Weiner wants to be with a woman who has less hair on her back than he does.

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  68. Always remind your ex-sexts in a pushy and rude manner, via some minion “cleaner”, that you really disappointed them and that your only interest in them has been selfish.

    Because that’s great salesmanship.

    Didn’t know he had a bro.

    Sarahw (b0e533)

  69. point taken, ES… he does like ’em “smooth”…

    Colonel Haiku (db0e4b)

  70. I had speculated he sicced lawyers or “cleaners” on her and that this had ticked her off.

    Looks like it might have been at least partially the case. That and them making her believe going public could be worth something.

    Sarahw (b0e533)

  71. “Her [Huma] appearance is just like, ‘Hoh my God!’ She takes your breath away,”

    – James Carville

    Similar to the reaction I have every time I see James “SnakeHead” Carville on teh tube

    Colonel Haiku (db0e4b)

  72. This is so bizarre how the lefties are pivoting their focus to Huma, and making her out to be some sort of an Einstein as well as a wonderful human being for merely being married to a weasel.

    If she’s so effing smart and ‘beautiful,’ then why did she marry this loser ?

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  73. Comment by Elephant Stone (6a6f37) — 7/26/2013 @ 2:01 pm

    If she’s so effing smart and ‘beautiful,’ then why did she marry this loser ?

    She could only marry somebody willing to take orders from the Clintons. Anthony Weiner was suitably dishonest and mostly doesn’t have enough brains to have any independent ideas anyway. And he was the leading candidate for Mayor after Bloomberg because he’d raised the most money. and then maybe there was…well Anthony Weiner has a way of getting women to demand sex from him.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  74. Oh Good Allah, Obama hosted the Ramadan dinner last night, and apparently whipped out notes from his 2009 Egypt speech when he basically asserted that Muslims are responsible for modern society through all of their inventions, as well as their quest for peace and justice. Or something.

    I wonder if he discussed women’s rights, or same-sex marriage.

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  75. if cleaning your computer keyboard requires more than just a blast of compressed air, you might be #CarlosDangler

    Colonel Haiku (db0e4b)

  76. #76
    ES, the left always does this. Think WJC, the smartest President; then Obama again the smartest President with apparent wizardly powers. When lefties describe their people, its always in beyond mere mortal abilities and talent

    Angelo (14a0c5)

  77. “I know you’ve been less than thrilled with President Obama, so I’m curious about 2016. If elected do you think Hillary would/could be a good president or not, Leviticus? Is there a particular trait or some experience she possesses that you think makes her especially qualified more than most any other Democrat to run in 2016? What if any downsides do you see with her? It’s still early of course but many on the left and right appear to believe Ms Clinton is the inevitable candidate for the Dems. Do you think she is? Do you think that younger voters will go for her, or are you ready and eager to turn out the boomer generation of pols?”

    – elissa

    I don’t think Hillary Clinton would be a good president, no. I think she would embrace the authoritarian conception of the executive branch initiated under Bush and worsened under Obama. I think she would be unduly concerned with distinguishing herself from Bill. I’m sick of the dynastic presidency and its tendency to accommodate political remoras. I think her experience as Secretary of State probably makes her more qualified than most any other Democratic candidate – but that says far more about the Democratic Party than it does about Hillary Clinton. I do think she is the inevitable nominee. I will not vote for her.

    Leviticus (2c236c)

  78. hmmm… a fairly unrobotic position…

    Colonel Haiku (db0e4b)

  79. When lefties describe their people, its always in beyond mere mortal abilities and talent

    Comment by Angelo (14a0c5)

    Indeed… they have to believe themselves to be heroic… it’s their nature.

    Colonel Haiku (db0e4b)

  80. Somebody put together a dozen Weiner newspaper headlines. Obama Beats Weiner is my favorite.

    nk (875f57)

  81. He can’t do the same kind of damage as Comptroller. maybe could do some good, but he seems to be too interested in shareholder resolutions on corporations New York City invests in.

    Oh come on, Sammy, you are deluding yourself. His modus operandi as Atty General was to threaten protracted investigations of companies whose practices he did not agree with. Most companies — and to be sure, Spitzer generally targeted mid-sized companies who lacked the resources to stage a full defense — simply went along with Spitzer’s demands rather than deal with the bad publicity (Spitzer’s office was known to leak directly to the NY Times) or pay huge legal fees to fight.

    Now as comptroller he would have the ability to bully corporations by threatening to disinvest NYC pension money from companies who don’t meet his standards. He already has released an obnoxious campaign ad trying to pander to the Occupy groups and their leftwing sympathizers. As comptroller he would also have the power to audit (or not audit) city agencies and programs, so who among us would doubt that certain agencies key to the liberal agenda (think “diversity” programs and abortion services) would be given the green light for corruption as he works his way back to the good graces of the Democrat machine?

    JVW (23867e)

  82. Thanks for your reply, Leviticus. I agree that the Dem bench is fairly thin. It is also definitely skewed toward the geriatric side of lifespans as I’m sure you’ve noticed. BUNCH OF pols need to retire so some new talent can be developed and vetted. You/we may not like all the young turk republicans out there but at least there are some in the 40-50 age group that are giving America a look-see.

    elissa (6f2038)

  83. It’s pathetic, the only that probably shows any promise, is Corey Booker, because he’s actually tried to do something,

    narciso (3fec35)

  84. School Administrator Lowers Boom On Weiner During Staten Island Stop
    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/07/26/school-administrator-lowers-boom-on-weiner-during-staten-island-stop/

    Angelo (14a0c5)

  85. From above link:

    “People have their personal lives if it is unconnected to their professional lives,” Weiner said. “Then I’m not going to judge someone’s personal life.”

    Didn’t he do his sexting last time while on the Congressional clock?

    Angelo (14a0c5)

  86. Thanks for your reply, Leviticus. I agree that the Dem bench is fairly thin. It is also definitely skewed toward the geriatric side of lifespans as I’m sure you’ve noticed. BUNCH OF pols need to retire so some new talent can be developed and vetted. You/we may not like all the young turk republicans out there but at least there are some in the 40-50 age group that are giving America a look-see.

    I think that has been a big problem with both parties, but especially the Democrats. There was a very astute article on Massachusetts a few years ago which mentioned that even though the state was dominated by Democrats, the party’s bench was relatively thin. The article explained that because the state had been dominated by longtime officeholders — Kennedy, Kerry, Frank, Studds, Moakley, etc. — that the message had gone out to bright young progressives that there was no future for them as officeholders, so many talented Democrats had moved on. I think that in general this is a real issue in Washington. It’s why even though I don’t think Mike Enzi in Wyoming is a bad Senator, I would prefer to see his 18 years of “service” brought to a close and someone else given the opportunity.

    So yeah, when you look at the Democrats’ field for 2016 you get mostly AARP members: HR Clinton (who will be 69), Biden (73), Mark Dayton (69), John Hickenlooper (65). I guess that’s one reason that Martin O’Malley’s name always comes up, seeing as he will only be 53 that year.

    JVW (23867e)

  87. Leviticus:

    I do think she is the inevitable nominee.

    I do, too, although the election is a long way off and a lot can happen between now and then. As I recall, she looked like the obvious candidate at this point before the 2008 election.

    I think Hillary will be the nominee because the Democratic Party is in love with identity politics, and this will be the year of the woman. (One could even argue this is the inevitable result of the Democratic Party’s “War on Women” theme.) Why do you think she will be the nominee?

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  88. An enabling mother crossed with a Wandering father, has to put the child in less than optimum growing conditions.
    Poor kid.

    mg (31009b)

  89. Maybe the “defense” of Huma is off-base. It could be that Weiner has still been sexting because he didn’t want to run for Mayor as much as Huma wanted him to run.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  90. weiner and filner
    teh Dirty Dems done dirt cheap
    and Spitzer swallows

    Colonel Haiku (aff034)

  91. Hey nk, click on the Daily Mail link in DRJ’s post above (3:34 pm) and tell us what you think of Heba Abedin, Huma’s (presumably younger) sister. Yowza!

    JVW (23867e)

  92. again, heavy cosmetics and VEET® abuse…

    Colonel Haiku (aff034)

  93. dark beauty without teh swarthy? Alyssa Milano!

    Colonel Haiku (aff034)

  94. Maybe, Colonel, but a much more naturally shaped mouth and even more gorgeous big brown eyes than her sister.

    JVW (23867e)

  95. What you are really saying is that Anthiony Weiner is not as bad a person as Bill Clinton.

    Sammy Finkelman (ee68f6)

  96. The CBS Evening had a report about the mayor of San Diego and Anthony Weiner (and some observations by Bob Schieffer.)

    Sammy Finkelman (ee68f6)

  97. I saw her, JVW. She’s married with children and no reason known to want to leave her husband.

    nk (875f57)

  98. Comment by JVW (23867e) — 7/26/2013 @ 2:51 pm

    Now as comptroller he would have the ability to bully corporations by threatening to disinvest NYC pension money from companies who don’t meet his standards.

    So what? It’s not a big threat. The big problem is that none of this is city business.

    As comptroller he would also have the power to audit (or not audit) city agencies and programs,

    That’s where he could do some good (also some harm)

    If he’s wrong, and there’s a good mayor, everything wrong he says will be ignored. If he latches on to something real, he could call attention to it, and something could happen go along guy. The biggest problem is that he doen’t seem to be interested in focusing on that part of his job at all.

    There is also a Republican candidate, picked mostly to show they pick qualified candidates, where there is no intent to actually try to get him elected.

    He is a black man with a record in corporate
    compliance with regulation I think..

    so who among us would doubt that certain agencies key to the liberal agenda (think “diversity” programs and abortion services) would be given the green light for corruption as he works his way back to the good graces of the Democrat machine?

    Sammy Finkelman (ee68f6)

  99. Something got garbled. Scott Stringer is a get along go along guy. USELESS.

    Sammy Finkelman (ee68f6)

  100. I saw her, JVW. She’s married with children and no reason known to want to leave her husband.

    They’re liberal Democrats, nk. Fidelity is just an old-fashioned notion, and strictly optional.

    JVW (23867e)

  101. Wanted to link or post:

    New York Times article on people in China smuggling in baby food (because they don’t trust food even what is officially imported) and efforts made to stop it.

    NYT Article on New York City police attacking new frontier in crime reduction and acheiving some success where it had been thought impossible to make a reduction: domestic violence homicides.

    Things about the two bills Bloomberg vetoed,

    The mystery of the reduction in crime – not such a big mystery to me.

    Sammy Finkelman (ee68f6)

  102. Actually, Heba has been around (in the political radar) for a while. At least since Michelle Bachman got on Huma’s case over her Muslim Brotherhood connections and McCain came to her defense.

    nk (875f57)

  103. Not Huma. Bill and Hillary wanted Weiner to run. They are managing his entire life.

    Sammy Finkelman (ee68f6)

  104. Good old John Mccain, ready to defend his kind from our kind no matter what. He is truly the finest representative the statist class could hope for.

    Dustin (2528dc)

  105. I garbled that. Heba organized her Twitter followers to come to Huma’s defense alongside McCain and made some public statements and TV appearances and such.

    nk (875f57)

  106. Not Huma. Bill and Hillary wanted Weiner to run. They are managing his entire life.

    I have a hard time believing that. The Clintons show loyalty to no one, and they aren’t dumb enough to believe Anthony Weiner could ever make it farther than the world of NYC politics. I would sooner believe all of Mark’s bisexuality theories than the idea that the Clintons would be grooming such a loser.

    JVW (23867e)

  107. I think the important thing to take away from all of this is a shared understanding that any mentor/mentee relationship between two females most likely has lesbian overtones.

    Leviticus, a desire to make light of the possibility that Hillary and Huma have been involved with each other romantically, or certainly with other women, is okay if one is bothered by the specter of flimsy gossip and hollow speculation. But then again, would you react the exact same way if the rumor were that Hillary had stumbled upon a cure for cancer and Huma in private was a tireless volunteer for the Salvation Army?

    Alec-Baldwin liberalism perhaps is behind a person’s desire to scoff at the notion that Hillary and Huma are less than — certainly much less than — 100% straight.

    Mark (938403)

  108. I garbled that. Heba organized her Twitter followers to come to Huma’s defense alongside McCain and made some public statements and TV appearances and such.

    Comment by nk (875f57)

    Have you seen the third sister, Horsa?

    Colonel Haiku (3ecfc0)

  109. If lurch and huma had intercourse, would she have a colt?

    mg (31009b)

  110. nk may have unknowingly joined the ranks of what have come to be known as teh “HumaFluffers”…

    Colonel Haiku (1d03f9)

  111. “unknowingly”? I am blind in only one eye, Haiku. Huma’s hot. You can keep your California girls.

    nk (875f57)

  112. Nk, are you sure you didn’t write this first paragraph?

    http://nymag.com/news/features/anthony-weiner-2013-7/index5.html

    Seriously, that HAD to be satire, right?

    Simon Jester (1a2aed)

  113. Absolutely satire, Simon. I’m envious. I wonder if it’s the same guy … Patterico, a while back, linked a story about a marijuana user who had two little girls, 6 and 8 ?, and he didn’t want to smoke around them so he baked marijuana brownies. Very similar, almost believable (there’s a word for that), dead pan style.

    nk (875f57)

  114. While the media fawning over her looks is tiresome, I don’t think the answer is to make horse jokes about her. We should be above that.

    Besides I save those jokes for Sarah Jessica Parker.

    SPQR (5557ef)

  115. Simon… that was the example of HumaFluffing that made me question nk’s sanity.

    Colonel Haiku (2d1295)

  116. Jacobson, is almost a parody, in himself, he wrote the piece, that became American Gangster, that apologia for Frank Lucas,

    narciso (3fec35)

  117. Seriously, that HAD to be satire, right?

    That was my initial reaction. But it’s actually another sign of the modern-day left morphing into something beyond parody.

    I’ve never been a traditionally religious person, but I’m beginning to better understand the meaning and implications of the story of Sodom (which predates liberalism of 2013 by over 4,000 years) and the character of Lot.

    Mark (938403)

  118. Ok, I see you did.

    nk (875f57)

  119. Simon… that was the example of HumaFluffing that made me question nk’s sanity.

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (2d1295) — 7/27/2013 @ 8:44 am

    Love is a form of insanity, Haiku.

    nk (875f57)

  120. it’s Saturday and Weiner starts it like all others with a cyber-molestation and a wank…

    Colonel Haiku (2d1295)

  121. unrequited love, nk…

    Colonel Haiku (2d1295)

  122. Sodom’s sin, and Lot’s salvation, was less God’s disapproval of illicit sex (Lot gave up his daughters for rape) and more about kindness to strangers, in my view. See any number of “love thy neighbor” parables and homilies in the New Testament and concurrent pagan myths.

    nk (875f57)

  123. I pointed that out, on another thread,

    narciso (3fec35)

  124. and more about kindness to strangers, in my view.

    Come on, nk. If you can construe the story of a guy being confronted at his front door by all the males in his town, who are threatening to storm in and rape his two male guests, and Lot instead offering his two virgin daughters as sacrificial lambs to the mob, as an illustration (and disapproval) of a lack of hospitality, then the quote that best fits right here is:

    “And other than THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?”

    Or:

    “And other than THAT, Mrs. Kennedy, how was Dallas?”

    Mark (938403)

  125. “The sense I got (from a book I read on the inner workings of the 09-10 Congress) is that people who have worked with Wiener consider him to be a media-hungry blowhard who is more interested in *appearances* than in actually getting work done,”

    That’s as true of Schumer and look where it got him.

    Mike K (dc6ffe)

  126. teh Filthy Filners
    and Dirty Weiners of world
    mendouchesness reigns

    Colonel Haiku (2d1295)

  127. nk
    OT on Lot, Sodom and his daughters

    I’ll be untypically brief

    1. Angels usually can take care of themselves

    2. The men of Sodom are inhospitable in the extreme being sexually lawless toward guests.

    3. Lot “offers” his daughters knowing the men of Sodom are not interested

    10 verses later:
    Sodom along with Lot’s other two married daughters has been consumed.
    Lot’s wife is salt.
    The two virgin daughters are pregnant with Lot’s sons.

    Way too much going on.. no wonder I got a D in Sunday School, but I remain doubtful the story is just about homosexuals

    SteveG (794291)

  128. That was my point too, that Mark seems to disagree with, SteveG.

    nk (875f57)

  129. if it’s iodized salt then that will help make all the sodomites more smarter

    i read it on instapundit

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  130. “I think Hillary will be the nominee because the Democratic Party is in love with identity politics, and this will be the year of the woman. (One could even argue this is the inevitable result of the Democratic Party’s “War on Women” theme.) Why do you think she will be the nominee?”

    – DRJ

    I agree that identity politics will be a big part of it. I also think that Hillary Clinton will be able to convince people that she’s got a balance of domestic political experience and foreign affairs experience. The only other likely candidate that could make that pitch is Joe Biden – and whatever we think of Hillary Clinton, I think we could agree that she’s about seven or eight times as smart as Joe Biden.

    Most basically, I think it’s because there’s nobody else.

    Leviticus (2c236c)

  131. but I remain doubtful the story is just about homosexuals

    And, at the same time, it certainly isn’t just a tale (and forewarning) about a place and people who lack hospitality.

    BTW, although some have used, for example, San Francisco as a modern-day stand-in for Sodom, I think Detroit actually is a better symbol — recent bankruptcy (literally) and all — since it’s no less leftwing than SF is, but it’s also more corrupt and self-destructive.

    Mark (938403)

  132. and whatever we think of Hillary Clinton, I think we could agree that she’s about seven or eight times as smart as Joe Biden.

    That is like bragging about being 7-8 times smarter than a garden slug. Or me.

    JD (b63a52)

  133. They set the bar so low, JD. It’s their nature… along with excusing the indefensible.

    Colonel Haiku (6a6222)

  134. “They” can’t point to a single accomplishment that Hillary Clinton can point to resulting from her time as a Senator or as Sec. State.

    Colonel Haiku (6a6222)

  135. a record of mendacity and failure is what Clinton can crow about.

    Colonel Haiku (6a6222)

  136. “… and whatever we think of Hillary Clinton, I think we could agree that she’s about seven or eight times as smart as Joe Biden.”

    I’ve got a mentally ill cat that is smarter than Joe Biden.

    SPQR (768505)

  137. 116. If lurch and huma had intercourse, would she have a colt?

    Comment by mg (31009b) — 7/26/2013 @ 9:59 pm

    I’m thinking if Huma had to have intercourse with lurch she’d need to slam at least one 40oz. bottle of Colt ahead of time.

    Steve57 (a65996)

  138. Re: HRC:

    “140.They set the bar so low, JD. It’s their nature…”

    66 million people voted for Obama in 2012. As bad as he is, the fact that there are this many idiots in this country does not bode well for the future. You can bet that HRC will get minimum 95% of those voters along with any other independents, etc., who want to make a statement about how advanced they are about women. And you can bet that the MSM will be “all in” for her candidacy. It will be tough go.

    Ipso Fatso (1e3278)

  139. I suppose after Ipso Fatso’s observations on the candidacy of the overrated Hillary! is as good a place as any to Dave Wiegel’s takedown of the overrated Huma Abedin.

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2013/07/25/the_overrated_huma_abedin.html

    There seems to be a conspiracy among the mediocrities in Washington DC to bestow unwarranted reputations for brilliance on each other as long as everyone agrees to play along.

    I’d say Joe Biden and John Kerry top the list but Hillary! is definitely fighting to take the lead.

    Other than being wrong for a long time on pretty much everything, you can’t point to an accomplishment among the three of them.

    I suppose this is now rubbing off on Huma. Huma must be brilliant because the smartest woman evah brought Huma into her inner circle and made Huma her consigliere.

    Steve57 (a65996)

  140. Narcisco – be also said he would be spending every second of every day working on the economy.

    JD (31274e)

  141. food stamp has more pivots than a goddamn ricky martin concert

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  142. Speaking of pivot;

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2013/07/27/meghan-mccain-tv-politics/2591831/

    I think this is when the frogs start raining down.

    narciso (3fec35)

  143. The younger McCain, who is also a Republican, calls her generation the most politically engaged.

    “I believe in more than this country is being given in news and entertainment,” she said.

    oh for the love of low flow toilets she’s even dumber than people who eat at del taco

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  144. nevertheless if she’s gonna do a tv show I think we can all agree that she should book a pedicure

    you can’t do a tv show what speaks to the mostest politically engaged generation with gnarly toes

    that my friends is what we call a truism

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  145. Did you have the pretzel burger?

    narciso (3fec35)

  146. also she should book dimples

    http://www.usmagazine.com/uploads/assets/articles/54687-ryan-lochtes-american-flag-grill-causes-controversy-at-london-olympics/1343667720_ryan-lochte-article.jpg

    she needs to show she’s not afraid to take on people what are smarter than her

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  147. no pretzel burger yet I think I can get one at The Habit though

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  148. Mika and Megan make me doubt the value of a Columbia sheepskin,

    narciso (3fec35)

  149. if only meghan’s coward daddy had slipped one on

    but if wishes were fishes beggars would drown

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  150. We don’t have a Del Taco here, so I had the 2 tacos for .99 cents meal deal in somewhere like Cedar City, UT.
    It was not a meal or a deal. My stomach started to regain its shape around Rock Springs, Wy.
    Everything below the belt took two more days and 4 bottles of extra strength PeptoBismol.
    I recommend getting 200 napkins and no taco sauce if you can’t resist the deal.

    SteveG (794291)

  151. “the smartest woman evah brought Huma into her inner circle and made Huma her consigliere.”

    Hey hey watch it there, those rumors about Hillary and Huma were unfounded… I denounce you for using the word consigliere as a dog whistle

    SteveG (794291)

  152. My BRO, is State Dept Diplomatic Security. He knows, Huma, A-WEINER, and Rodham. They are ALL FUXED UP (HUMA)N BEINGS. They are SCUM. Doctor Condoleeza Rice……NOT SO MUCH.

    Any questions??

    Gus (694db4)

  153. Salt of Sodom. Sodom Salt.

    Sodom Salt and Gomorrah pretzels.

    Here’s the recipe.
    http://yearonthegrill.blogspot.com/2010/05/pretzels.html

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  154. Gus, I actually interacted with Weiner several times almost ten years ago and found him to be a well-mannered and nice person. I was really surprised when he turned out to be leading this creepo double life, but he seemed pretty normal to me. Interestingly enough, one of my friends worked for (then) Senator Clinton and thought she was one of the meanest people she ever met (this is something I have heard about almost many female baby boomer politicians).

    A memorable day was when we ran into Harold Ford Jr and my friends thought he was Barack Obama (they don’t really look that much alike, but he said it happened every day).

    Anyway, I have thought about how my impression of Weiner was so different than the person he really is, and wonder if it’s because Washington corroded his character. His politics got more and more showy and to me less reasonable, and I attributed that to an increase in personal ambition. Why would Anthony Weiner want to be a mayor of a $70 billion government? What gives him the idea he’s qualified to run something that massive? As far as I know, he’s never run anything before, and he didn’t accomplish anything in congress. He’s running out of a sense of personal greatness, I guess. Many voters prefer celebrity politicians like Weiner and Obama and Clinton to someone whose campaign has some essential intrinsic purpose. Weiner’s antics may actually help him for this reason. Maybe the Weiner I met wouldn’t have had a chance, and DC evolved him this way?

    Dustin (303dca)

  155. When they do that 4 hour made up errrrr made for TV movie about Rodham, who will play Huma in the nude scenes, where rug munching is going on?? I understand they’ve chosen Alec Baldwin to play Rodham. Maybe Keith Ellison could play Huma.

    Gus (694db4)

  156. Dustin, he worked for SCHUMER, get a clue son. His character didn’t change in D.C.. The man has no character.

    Gus (694db4)

  157. A few more “points of contrast between the two situations”.

    * Weiner never had physical contact with any of the women he sexted [AFAIK].

    * Weiner did not employ his official escorts and assistants as go-betweens and procurers.

    * Weiner did not use his official powers to pay off his “girlfriends”.

    * Weiner’s spouse’s lies about his sexual misconduct during their marriage covered only three years, not two decades.

    * Weiner has not been plausibly accused of forcible rape.

    Rich Rostrom (47c4e2)

  158. And compared to the homeless guy with one arm and psoriasis that I give a dollar to at the I-94 on-ramp, I look real damn good too. When Clinton is a measure of anything. (Not a criticism of you, Rich.)

    nk (875f57)

  159. Anyway, I have thought about how my impression of Weiner was so different than the person he really is,

    I’m reminded of the many instances when a person who’s a neighbor to an individual who has just been accused of a major crime (eg, murder, kidnapping, robbery, etc) will be interviewed by the press and say something along the lines of “but he seemed like such a nice fellow.” Or “he always was such a friendly and helpful person on the occasions I ran into him. I’m totally shocked by the news!”

    Mark (938403)

  160. teh horse-faced beauty
    thin ankles and big brown eyes
    nk is in love

    Colonel Haiku (a181a7)

  161. Weiner’s campaign manager has resigned.

    Icy (bf50ec)

  162. father was mudder
    teh strict diet of oats and hay
    Huma in teh stretch

    Colonel Haiku (a181a7)

  163. black hair equine nose
    sexy eyelashes white teeth
    saddle-up nk

    Colonel Haiku (a181a7)

  164. Kalamazoo-bred
    quite teh filly at young age
    glue factory bound

    Colonel Haiku (a181a7)

  165. no amateur he
    nk has her on teh bit
    puts teh whip to her

    Colonel Haiku (a181a7)

  166. money on wrong horse
    been many a fortune lost
    break your heart gelding

    Colonel Haiku (a181a7)

  167. Huma wears feedbag
    while Weiner lopes his tired mules
    meh too hot to trot

    Colonel Haiku (a181a7)

  168. I’m off to Santa Anita… good day to all…

    Colonel Haiku (a181a7)

  169. Your most excellent thematic haikus are always appreciated–especially today’s. Don’t bet the rent money, Col!

    elissa (980c8c)

  170. 160. “the smartest woman evah brought Huma into her inner circle and made Huma her consigliere.”

    Hey hey watch it there, those rumors about Hillary and Huma were unfounded… I denounce you for using the word consigliere as a dog whistle

    Comment by SteveG (794291) — 7/27/2013 @ 10:28 pm

    I denounce myself. In a country where the words “golf” and “Chicago” are racist dog whistles how could I expect “consigliere” to work out any differently?

    Steve57 (a65996)

  171. Curious since one of his OLC pics, voted down, Shawn Johnson, didn’t hesitate in calling Gonzalez and Yoo, W’s consiglieri’s

    http://www.rightwingnews.com/economy/obama-will-evaluate-keystone-xl-solely-on-its-climate-change-effects/

    narciso (3fec35)

  172. The AP wakes up to economic reality

    Icy (bf50ec)

  173. Weiners latest flop leaves Huma unfulfilled; would be a good headline for the Post

    SteveG (794291)

  174. #167

    As dog whistles go, this is a loud one:

    And compared to the homeless guy with one arm and psoriasis that I give a dollar to at the I-94 on-ramp, I look real damn good too. When Clinton is a measure of anything.

    Giving the dollar to the homeless guy makes you a better Secretary of State than she was too

    SteveG (794291)

  175. Gus:

    I was in a small group of people that met Sec State Rice after she gave a speech and did Q and A. She is bright, has a sense of humor, loves her country and works her ass off. Very very gracious.

    Hillary Clinton? Her positive accomplishment the media was trumpeting before she retired?
    Most miles traveled.
    John Wooden used to say: Never mistake activity for accomplishment

    Side note on Ms. Rice’s speech… just before the speech part I was sitting in a front row. These two older muslim women in african, maybe nigerian, regional head coverings full length robes come in and the oldest one is using one of those wheeled push assistance things that has a basket on it with something in it covered by a cloth. There is no security beyond a few local SO doing traffic, no one checking bags, zip.
    The ladies stop in front of me and start looking around… for their seats probably, and I denounce myself… I started to wonder if this was gonna be it for me. I sort of went oh well, odds are they are just here to see an accomplished black woman speak and whatever happens, happens

    SteveG (794291)

  176. elissa, I think you need some exposure to good poetry.

    nk (875f57)

  177. I have some good brownie recipes what Mrs. Clinton could devote some time staying at home learning how to make instead of getting her brain all clotted up again working hard serving this country.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  178. nk–as my sainted father used to say about questionable couples, usually while shaking his head: “well, there’s an ass for every saddle”. (I found out later that this phrase is also commonly used in the real estate industry with “a$$”).

    elissa (980c8c)

  179. elissa – They both could do better.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  180. A lid for every pot, is the colloquial Greek expression.

    nk (875f57)

  181. This is on the front page of the New York Post. The main headline goes:

    HU, ME? Hillary: Hey, I’m NOT just like Huma.

    We are getting leaks, both in the New York Post and in the New York Daily News, about what the Clintons supposedly are thinking.

    Sammy Finkelman (fa9d06)

  182. We have actually been getting these leaks (always anonymously sourced) for a few days now.

    Hillary has previously said, or had said for her, that Huma is like a (second) daughter to her, so now they say Weiner is like a jerky son-in-law. (Source: a city Democratic official)

    Do the Clintons Want Anthony Weiner to Quit the Mayoral Race? New York Magazine ZDaily Inteligencer (July 28, 2013) By Caroline Bankoff which cites an earlier Daily News story.

    Sammy Finkelman (fa9d06)

  183. Leaks? Dee Dee Myers and David Axelrod speaking on the Sunday talk shows were pretty clear on what the Clintons are thinking about Huma and Anthony.

    elissa (1aa5bd)

  184. Neither of them are claiming to speak for Hillary or Bill. Dee dee Myers said only that having this whole story to go away was what she thought the Clintons would like to see happen.

    Frederick Dicker said in his New York Post article that Dee Dee Myers was not the “Hillary Rodham Clinton” political operative who was described as “close to going public” with a sharp criticism of Weiner.

    We’re getting things leaks saying things like Hillary didn’t know Huma would do this whole “stand-by-your-man” routine.

    More accurately maybe, she didn’t know it would off as too incredible to believe.

    Then there is a claim that when Huma Abedin said “our marriage…has had its ups and downs” this was taken as referring to the Clintons.

    Or that they care about Huma, not Weiner.

    All kinds of things about what they are supposedly thinking.

    Sammy Finkelman (fa9d06)

  185. New or corrected information:

    Sydney Leathers is indeed heavily tattoed – on her back, where there is a design that kind of looks like a tree, and on her arm.

    She came close to or arrived at, prostitution.

    That is, she put her name on some kind of as web site. Also she once e-mailed a friend that she couldn’t believe she got $200 just for talking.

    They broke up because Anthony Weiner did not like the messages men were leaving on her Facebook “wall”

    She was involved with selling prescription pills and smoking pot.

    It started in July 2012, when Weiner responded to an year old message she had sent him by “poking” her (often done to start private communications) Within a week it had gotten into sex.

    Weiner told her that his marriage was a sham and he’d get her a condo in Chicago and she would be his mistress or something like that.

    If you listen carefully to the excerpts from the interview with her on Inside Edition she never was upset he might be mayor – when she had to say somethinbg for the intervew she based it on what he said last week. She argued: He told one story to her, one story to his wiofe and another on the campaign trail.

    She was contacted by phone by someone claiming to be Anthony Weiner’s brother. She has also has a messages from Weiner claiming his brother thought
    she didn’t like him and he didn’t see anything like that and speculating somethinbg could have been misinterpreted.

    His sole surviving brother, Jason (the other one, Seth, was killed in Alexandria, Virginia, in the year 2000 in a hit and run accident, possibly while walking drunk) issued a statement saying he never contacted Sydney leathers in any way and didn’t hear her name till 3 days before.

    If Weiner had hired some private detective agency (or more probably some supporter, instigated by the Clintons and acting outside of his official campaign for mayor, with the agency actually probably directly paid for by Huma but not with her own money really) and that agency had contacted her before Weiner announced, it is logical that both they and Weiner would agree to say that the person who had contacted her was his brother, in order to keep the apparent size of the conspiracy small.

    Sydney Lathers says she got disturbed by the call and told her boss about the affair at the time.

    Weiner’s official campaign people never had any inkling that any of what could come out involved something that hapepend after he left Congress. they discussed the idea that there might be amistress, but not that the same thing happended but only later.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  186. Comment by DRJ (a83b8b) — 7/26/2013 @ 8:16 am

    Huma’s silence is valuable to Hillary.

    Anthony Weiner’s silence, too!

    By the way, I thouyght he was living in the sam ebuilding as Chelsea. Now I read that it was six blocks away. I don’t know what’s right.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)


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