Breitbart.com Trumpets Story Based on 2011 Weiner Sexting As If It Happened in 2013; Whisks Away Post With No Correction
Breitbart.com published a piece yesterday that announced that Anthony Weiner was sexting Lisa Weiss in March 2013, based on messages that were actually sent in 2011.
Then Breitbart.com whisked away the post with no acknowledgement of error.
The proof remains at Weasel Zippers, which quoted the now-disappeared Breitbart.com post in a post titled Carlos Danger Was Sexting With Another Woman Right Up Until He Announced His Run For NYC Mayor…
Here, Weasel Zipper quotes the Breitbart.com piece:
Via Breitbart:
On Tuesday evening, Anthony Weiner, with his wife by his side, admitted to continuing to send lewd messages to women after he resigned from Congress. He assured the public however, that the behavior was “behind him now.” According to Facebook messages from Weiner, published by RadarOnline, he was sexting with a woman in March of this year, while he was campaigning for Mayor.
When exactly did the sexting get “behind him?”
On March 16th, in an exchange with Weiner, a woman writes “Nice! Just what I’m looking for….I want to XXXX the future mayor of nyc!”
Weiner hadn’t formally announced for Mayor at that time, but had conducted polling on the race and was reportedly considering making a run. On March 16th, the date of the message, FoxNews reported that Weiner was preparing for a mayoral race.
If you go to the Breitbart.com link, this is what you find:
No correction. No acknowledgment of error.
Even though it turns out that the messages in question were actually sent in 2011.
I actually linked the Weasel Zippers post in an update to a post yesterday, attributing it to a “report.” Then I went to read more about it, and found the post upon which the claim was based had disappeared . . . and that it was a Breitbart.com piece. I decided that they probably screwed up the story, decided to whisk it away from view, and hope nobody noticed. I deleted my update within about two minutes and made two mental notes: one, to write this post, and a second to always check stories in the future to make sure they are not based on a Breitbart.com piece. And if they are, double and triple check them.
I have gotten on them before for this. I criticized them in this post for doing the same thing when they thought a Bono impersonator was Bono. The problem, I explained, was not the mistake, but failing to acknowledge it:
Everyone makes mistakes. Everyone. But people carefully watch how you handle mistakes.
The right way to do it is to quickly, forthrightly, and thoroughly admit error — to move to correct the error, apologize, and explain how it happened.
The wrong way is to pretend it never happened, and to lawyer it up.
They have learned nothing. They continue to try to sweep away their errors away from public view and hope nobody notices.
Well, we did.
I would advise them to start being forthright when they make errors, but I have already tried that, and it’s falling on deaf ears.
I made a mistake, for two minutes, relying (even indirectly) on Breitbart.com without double-checking the story myself. I’ll do my best to make sure it does not happen again.
Sad. I don’t think Breitbart would have tolerated this MSM-like behavior.
Roger B. (1f1a70) — 7/25/2013 @ 8:10 amA sad legacy for a much missed and valuable name.
Patterico, are there any columnists writing for them who you do trust? This might be a management issue.
Simon Jester (8e7eff) — 7/25/2013 @ 8:11 amThey tend to oversell stories and are very defensive about errors. Not good for a news organization.
Patricia (be0117) — 7/25/2013 @ 8:50 amShortly after Andrew died (or was murdered) I quit going to Big sites because it seemed like when I did my computer would hiccup, freeze, or spasm. Plus, they seem more interested now more than before in using the Bigs to maximize economic opportunities.
I can’t say there’s a solid connection between my computer’s irregularities and their probing, my computer runs on Windows Vista so anything is possible. Still, to avoid problems I avoid the Bigs which were once some of my regular goto sites. Although, to their credit, when I see one of the editors on TV, mostly on FOX NEWS, they usually give a reasonably impressive performance.
ropelight (5cfcae) — 7/25/2013 @ 8:58 amWell, they got the date and the month right of the quote about the woman talking about “the future mayor of nyc!” (which I remember reading about actually) even if they got the year wrong.
I suppose they forgot that Anthony Weiner was already planning his race for mayor many years ago. And something important got lost in the cut and pasting.
Sammy Finkelman (be6791) — 7/25/2013 @ 9:04 amThat place has gone to crap, and when you call them on it the lemmings attack in mass.
BradnSA (69f417) — 7/25/2013 @ 9:16 amI only go to Breitbart for the conversation. And even then, I usually only read Ace’s posts.
Its sad. Breitbart remains one of my heros, but Shapiro is dragging that name down.
Ghost (996b5a) — 7/25/2013 @ 9:18 amSadly, I have to take everything on Breitbart with a grain of salt these days.
Andrew wouldn’t recognize the place.
creeper (9a0929) — 7/25/2013 @ 9:58 ampost whiskers suck
I think I got someone else’s taco bell order
what is this crap
happyfeet (c60db2) — 7/25/2013 @ 9:59 amYes, that was a mistake on their part,
narciso (3fec35) — 7/25/2013 @ 10:03 amWhat BradnSA says is completely true. From my experience, the Big network has insulated their bloggers (although, without naming names, there is another prominent conservative who has insulated his bloggers as well and has recruited bloggers notorious for big deceiving headlines). Once you call them on an error or a potential error, you are immediately attacked. I questioned two bloggers (not with Breitbart directly, though I’ve seen the same behavior) when they did this to me on Twitter: one claimed that I was harassing him by asking why he sent minions after me and threatened to report me to police, the other cancelled a radio debate with me and claimed he was “too busy” to talk hence why he sent minions. It’s unfortunate…a lot unraveled when Breitbart died. I just can’t see him standing for this.
Their writers, however, do seem to give well-done performances on Fox. I’m hoping it is growing pains, but Breitbart has been gone for close to a year and a half. Maybe they will figure it out. A few more things to consider: they receive a lot of criticism so I imagine it is hard to sift through who is trolling and who has legitimate concerns, though I think not feeding the trolls is usually best. Some of them seem really young or they went into politics at a young age so they lack experience elsewhere. If you are so used to mocking the other side, it starts sounding like groupthink at some point, as opposed to showing how to dismantle the argument of another. Even pundits can become out of touch. Politics is very different now with social media and they need someone experienced.
There needs to be a cohesive, experienced editor over there who can reign in the emotions and passion of the other bloggers. It’s kind of like football, you aren’t going to score on every play – not every run will be a breakout run and not every pass will be a Hail Mary. Not every post will put you the spotlight and not every story will be a vast controversy. Be patient, check your sources, network with well-respected bloggers, feature cutting edge conservatives, and please do not continue to hire people just because they are the anti-conservative stereotype. It’s annoying.
I’m still hopeful. In the meantime, I’ll stay here.
ratbeach (f5aad4) — 7/25/2013 @ 10:04 am“I imagine it is hard to sift through who is trolling and who has legitimate concerns”
They had better catch on. Frankly I thought at first some moles had taken over, but no, it’s just impaired discernment. They don’t have much self-awareness of the ways in which they are flailing
Sarahw (b0e533) — 7/25/2013 @ 10:19 amWell their fact checking was bad, but where else do you get a wider audience for stories like this;
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/07/24/Former-GreenTech-Employee-We-Wasn-t-Doing-Anything
they do little obvious sweeping for trolls.
narciso (3fec35) — 7/25/2013 @ 10:22 amI live in Richmond, and so was in the narrow audience. BigGov won’t be able to do much good if they are easy to write off as serial exaggerators.
Sarahw (b0e533) — 7/25/2013 @ 10:35 amThe staff of Breitbart.com needs to sit down and watch “12 O’Clock High” starring Gregory Peck.
Not kidding.
Do it!
Icy (828894) — 7/25/2013 @ 10:56 amJoel Pollack…
Gazzer (b99776) — 7/25/2013 @ 11:00 amUh oh.
gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 7/25/2013 @ 11:22 amWhy they told Pat off, I don’t know, why they are acting like amateurs, could be the natural selection of a dearth of good conservative bloggers and competition. Just look here at Pat’s place of pleadings; besides JD and DRJ we have several that would be great bloggers, Dustin, Steve57, SPQR, Stashiu, Daley, and others
Maybe Pat will reopen his jury room….
EPWJ (f44e22) — 7/25/2013 @ 11:31 ambesides JD and DRJ we have several that would be great bloggers too, Dustin, Steve57, SPQR, Stashiu, Daley, and others
left out that all important word…
EPWJ (f44e22) — 7/25/2013 @ 11:33 amLee Stranahan continues to do good work at Breitbart.com, careful shoe-leather reporting. Other than that, it’s kind of a wasteland.
Joe (b9dd11) — 7/25/2013 @ 12:21 pmOh, and John Sexton (formerly of Verum Serum) is also generally reliable.
Joe (b9dd11) — 7/25/2013 @ 2:16 pmIt’s not just the Big sites — I’ve seen it on other conservative sites, like Gateway Pundit, for instance. Overselling stories with misleading headlines and never admitting mistakes. I don’t know which is worse: sweeping mistakes under the rug and pretending you never said that, or just leaving them there and pretending it’s still true, even when it’s been thoroughly debunked. Either way, not good.
Maybe this is my inner conspiracy theorist talking, but is it possible that Breitbart.com has some lefties in key positions of power trying to discredit Andrew’s legacy by running the site into the ground?
elaine (93972a) — 7/25/2013 @ 2:18 pmComment by elaine (93972a) — 7/25/2013 @ 2:18 pm
but is it possible that Breitbart.com has some lefties in key positions of power trying to discredit Andrew’s legacy by running the site into the ground?
Of course it is possible, but these moles would have been around while Andrew Breitbart was still there.
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 7/25/2013 @ 2:23 pmBury the new scandal by republishing the old scandal. How MSM of them. That rumbling noise from California is Breitbart spinning in his grave.
htom (412a17) — 7/25/2013 @ 3:53 pmWe can make too much of this, frankly I wouldn’t put it past him, to text Lisa Weiss, but there isn’t any evidence now,
narciso (3fec35) — 7/25/2013 @ 3:59 pmBy comparison,
http://theothermccain.com/2013/07/25/project-groundswell-memo-number-17-what-conspiracy-oh-that-conspiracy/
narciso (3fec35) — 7/25/2013 @ 4:26 pmEPWJ: 19.besides JD and DRJ we have several that would be great bloggers too, Dustin, Steve57, SPQR, Stashiu, Daley, and others.
Who is “others?”
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 7/25/2013 @ 4:44 pmThere are quite a few lurkers who are very interesting people with insightful viewpoints
EPWJ (f44e22) — 7/25/2013 @ 4:54 pmAlways helpful not;
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/07/sheila-jackson-lee-pushes-bill-to-punish/
narciso (3fec35) — 7/25/2013 @ 5:05 pmWell, Lisa TRIED, anyway. http://gawker.com/5973112/woman-who-received-sexts-from-anthony-weiner-shows-up-on-his-facebook-page-to-apologize
Sarahw (b0e533) — 7/25/2013 @ 5:11 pmOh, they have a lot of great people, and in my mind it’s absolutely a management issue. There are too many good writers to name, but Sexton and Larry O’Connor stand out in my mind as excellent analysts who care deeply about facts.
It’s not that they have crappy people writing for them. They just have 2-3 people at the top who have this idea that it’s better to pretend you never made a mistake than to own up to it. Also they treat people like dirt.
Patterico (9c670f) — 7/25/2013 @ 5:17 pmthey need to remember that it’s nice to be important but it’s more important to be nice
that’s what alyssa milano says and you can take it to the bank
happyfeet (c60db2) — 7/25/2013 @ 5:22 pmWait a minute Patrick.
I have it on VERY good authority — by a RESPECTED JOURNALIST with awards for excellence in the fields of child-stalking and incorporating offputting anal rape fantasies into political arguments — that you are a BREITBOT.
Yet here you pretend to be criticizing Breitbart.com.
There’s clearly a conspiracy afoot.
My theory is that you are attacking Breitbart.com to make it appear there is a rift between you and your dark masters to distract from the emerging proof that all of Weiner’s sext partners were paid by the Koch brothers with CIA money, which theory will be proved by a heroic journalist named Ron or Don or Jon or something who held an important position on a web site in 2007 and has several internet awards, and will break this open unless he has one of his “special headaches” and has to go lie down.
WE’RE THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS HERE PEOPLE.
Ken (2e87a6) — 7/25/2013 @ 5:24 pmI see Ken,
http://www.popehat.com/2013/07/25/listen-dont-mention-the-malshandir-i-mentioned-it-once-but-i-think-i-got-away-with-it-all-right/#comments
narciso (3fec35) — 7/25/2013 @ 5:37 pmSpeaking of annoying news things… anyone else just sick to death of the blaze’s “you’ll never guess…” “which prominent person said what shocking thing…” “you won’t believe…” headlines? Just freaking tell me!
Also, mediaite with everybody slamming, eviscerating, destroying, murdering everyone else. Its just a debate.
Ghost (996b5a) — 7/25/2013 @ 5:38 pmFrom narciso’s link:
Newsflash: CBC members like Sheila Jackson Lee aren’t interested in doing anything that benefits their captive black constituency. Most especially if that anything would result in their captive black constituency being more self-sufficient.
I’ve linked countless times to a study that shows the average “woman of color” between the ages of 35 and 50 or so to have a net worth of $5.00. This compares to the average white woman of similar age with a net worth of $40K.
As Instapundit frequently notes, beggars are easier to please. So the “Great Society” has worked out exactly as intended.
Now when Shiela Jackson Lee or Eddie Bernice Johnson wants to lock up the black vote in their districts, all it takes is a slice of pizza and a can of Coke to seal the deal. Items of such low value it’s not even considered vote buying.
Unless of course you’re one Happy Meal away from being flat broke.
I’ve campaigned for Stephen Broden in Eddie Bernice Johnson’s district and there’s really no amount of corruption she could engage in that would cause the dead enders not to vote for her. She can send her grandkids and grandnieces and grandnephews and her staffers’ kids to college on CBC scholarships meant for her constituents and her constituents don’t care. As long as the few dollars left over after CBC members and the rest of Washington finish mauling the taxpayer to line their pockets end up getting back to Oak Cliff, they’re fine.
It’s sad what liberals have done to the black family.
Steve57 (2dd692) — 7/25/2013 @ 5:38 pmElwood P. Dowell put it best, Mr. Feet:
http://youtu.be/EzOIhLJ1C-Y
Just think of the things we could do if we had a talking six foot tall rabbit that could do magic.
Simon Jester (a74be0) — 7/25/2013 @ 5:40 pmElwood P. Dowd
Icy (828894) — 7/25/2013 @ 5:46 pmSorry, Icy. Lack of proofreading. It was a brilliant scene. Look at Jimmy’s face when he delivers the line. The “happy weird fellow” is a pose.
Brilliant.
Simon Jester (a74be0) — 7/25/2013 @ 5:59 pmWhat difference does it make now?
http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2013/07/25/Four-More-Women-Come-Forward-about-Filthy-Filner
narciso (3fec35) — 7/25/2013 @ 6:05 pmIf Ken at Popehat thinks he can waltz in here and outdo the conspiracy theories of one Mr. S. Finkelman then he has another think coming. For starters Ken’s post is much too short.
elissa (6f2038) — 7/25/2013 @ 6:06 pmThanks. That’s one of my all time favorite movies, Simon.
elissa (6f2038) — 7/25/2013 @ 6:08 pmi never seen that movie my whole life
i shall endeavor to rectify that
happyfeet (c60db2) — 7/25/2013 @ 6:13 pmwatch lefties try to
Colonel Haiku (d91f63) — 7/25/2013 @ 6:17 pmbeat down the Weiner Scandal
teh dude has issues
WeinerMania
Colonel Haiku (d91f63) — 7/25/2013 @ 6:21 pmChicago his kind of town
Secret Sex Bunker
career limps along
Colonel Haiku (d91f63) — 7/25/2013 @ 6:31 pmno baby kissing hand shakes
Weiner’s schwanz song?
It’s the internet and the stories are published quickly, so there’s no way to avoid mistakes. I agree with Patterico that the key is owning up to any mistakes, correcting them, and explaining what happened. Trying to make them disappear is human nature but not the adult thing to do.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 7/25/2013 @ 6:36 pmWeiner in one hand
Colonel Haiku (d91f63) — 7/25/2013 @ 6:38 pmFilthy Filner on other
Dems are a strange breed
weiner abedin
Colonel Haiku (d91f63) — 7/25/2013 @ 6:43 pmdead Mayor Koch screams “Oy Vey!”
manic compulsion
Owning up to self induced mistakes could only happen if your over 55.
mg (31009b) — 7/25/2013 @ 6:55 pmSo if we’re going to ding Breitbart over some poor dating of events, how about all the rigamarole raised against Christine over liens she had to know about, obvious violations of FEC regulations, and all that,
narciso (3fec35) — 7/25/2013 @ 6:57 pmThat was a brilliant line, Simon.
nk (875f57) — 7/25/2013 @ 7:00 pmFound this video of Anthony singing his favorite song as a boy.
Yoda (ee1de0) — 7/25/2013 @ 7:30 pmI hope the folks at Breitbart.com read this post by Patterico. It is very important to the late Andrew Breitbart’s legacy that the people who continue to run his website attempt to do what is right by Andrew’s name. They have an obligation both to Andrew, as well as his Susie and the kids, to facillitate Breitbart.com THE RIGHT WAY.
Also, they have an obligation to the right wing media to always be above scrutiny, since the left wing MSM are always waiting to jump down the throats of any conservative who makes a mistake.
Additionally, conservatives in Hollywood will distance themselves from the current administration of Breitbart.com if the management at Breitbart.com continues to treat people poorly. Conservatives in Hollywood are verrrry careful about whom they discuss their political views with, and if it is established as a pattern that the current management at Breitbart.com cannot be trusted, then they’ll lose current contacts, as well as access to future contacts.
Elephant Stone (3121fe) — 7/25/2013 @ 7:32 pmIt was an obvious error, considering this part;
On March 16th, the date of the message, FoxNews reported that Weiner was preparing for a mayoral race.
narciso (3fec35) — 7/25/2013 @ 7:39 pmAfter nearly 40 years, you would think human rights would be on the agenda;
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/07/god-awful-obama-compares-founding-fathers-to-communist-tyrant-and-murderer/
narciso (3fec35) — 7/25/2013 @ 7:41 pmMr. Feet, you should see “Harvey.” It is “good food for the soul,” if you see what I mean. So much of our cultural food seems to be spoiled these days or full of artificial flavors.
Jimmy Stewart was one of a kind.
Elissa, glad you enjoy the movie as much as I always have.
Nk, you saw what I did in that scene, and I’m glad. I’m no film critic, but I wish I could have chatted with the script writers and Mr. Stewart about it.
Simon Jester (a74be0) — 7/25/2013 @ 7:43 pmWell, backchannel, I don’t hear anything good. But frankly the bulk of my blogging friends and clients are associated with PJmedia to be honest.
The Dana Loesch stuff left me with a bad enough impression of Bigass.com
SPQR (a52f4f) — 7/25/2013 @ 7:45 pmHarvey was a great film. It was actually adapted from a stage play written by Mary Chase.
Spielberg was going to remake the film, but then decided against it.
Elephant Stone (3121fe) — 7/25/2013 @ 7:50 pmBack at you, Yoda.
nk (875f57) — 7/25/2013 @ 7:55 pm“Harvey” is #3 on my all-time favorite movie list. Great characters, great lines.
“Nobody ever brings anything small into a bar.”
“Where’s Dowd?”
“In the corner booth.”
“Is he alone?”
“Well, there’s two schools of thought on that.”
Anyone visiting Las Vegas is welcome to watch it with me.
Chuck Bartowski (25922b) — 7/25/2013 @ 7:55 pmI didn’t know that, but it was a good call by Spielberg, ES. There is simply nobody else who could have pulled off the Elwood P. Dowd character. You just shouldn’t mess with perfection.
elissa (6f2038) — 7/25/2013 @ 7:58 pmelissa,
Spielberg would have messed with perfection, that’s for sure. And I imagine there was a risk he might have invited his far left wing writer pal Tony Kushner turn the film into a left wing paradigm where the GOP cuts funding for mental hospitals, thus eliciting Harvey to be tossed out on the street where he would subsist on a diet of cat food.
Elephant Stone (3121fe) — 7/25/2013 @ 8:04 pmElissa, I just don’t know about this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9fQq3DakUg
I fear I am becoming a fogey.
Simon Jester (a74be0) — 7/25/2013 @ 8:04 pmThat’s no good, Simon. Just no good at all.
elissa (6f2038) — 7/25/2013 @ 8:15 pmI gagged at the remakes of Stagecoach. elissa was right, you don’t mess with perfection.
nk (875f57) — 7/25/2013 @ 8:19 pmOr frankly True Grit,
narciso (3fec35) — 7/25/2013 @ 8:21 pmJimmy Stewart talks about Harvey.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 7/25/2013 @ 8:28 pmAdd The Rockford Files to the bad remake idea list. I remember talk a couple of years ago about Dermot Mulroney playing a new Jim Rockford. Sacrilege. Garner was the show.
I loved the show as a kid, even though I really didn’t understand the plots. Now I’m enjoying it from a different angle.
norcal (9ca283) — 7/25/2013 @ 8:30 pmnarciso, I liked the Coen version better. I read the book as a really young kid and its darkness has stayed with me. The John Wayne version had its good points but …
nk (875f57) — 7/25/2013 @ 8:33 pmNow that would be ridiculous, Dermot Mulroney?
http://joshuafoust.com/a-timeline-of-edward-snowden-associates/
narciso (3fec35) — 7/25/2013 @ 8:34 pmit looks like Mr. Edward has successfully evaded the feckless-as-they-are-fascist harriet-the-spy types at the piggy piggy and exceptionally costly “nsa”
let’s see that makes it
Edward: 1000
feckless NSA pansies: 0
But that’s just if you’re keeping score.
happyfeet (8ce051) — 7/25/2013 @ 8:50 pmNo likum Snowden!
nk (875f57) — 7/25/2013 @ 9:15 pmNo likum Wikileaks!
No likum Putin!
Frow ’em away.
No word on his girlfriend, though, happyfeet. What is your immigration status in Hawaii?
nk (875f57) — 7/25/2013 @ 9:17 pmDid you see the top post on the Twitchy sidebar? What trimester is Edward?
nk (875f57) — 7/25/2013 @ 9:22 pmIt was known that James Stewart was not all that great about learning his lines. The scene Simon offered us is an example of Jimmy’s having to read off of cue cards – Something that Alfred Hitchcock Corrected in their first outing, “Rope”. Compare Jimmy’s acting in Harvey to the following scene from Hitchcock’s “Rope”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ACUJBJXxfE
The acting is stilted for good reason, as Gene Siskel explains.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq9hlMPE4s0
felipe (6100bc) — 7/25/2013 @ 9:28 pmI should have said “Something that Alfred Hitchcock sought to correct in their first outing”
felipe (6100bc) — 7/25/2013 @ 9:35 pmi do not have a passport Mr. nk
i am a highly provincial pikachu
i would make a very bad spypansy
but I do like martinis
happyfeet (8ce051) — 7/25/2013 @ 9:36 pmQuoth the mayoral candidate:
And in my case, that’s exactly right. The new revelations haven’t changed my opinion about Tony Weiner in the slightest degree.
Beldar (7626b1) — 7/25/2013 @ 10:18 pmHe’s absolutely right, Beldar. People should already think he’s a sleaze unfit to hold any office. Those who don’t are probably too stupid to feed or dress themselves.
Chuck Bartowski (25922b) — 7/25/2013 @ 10:21 pmthat wall street journal article does a good job of not communicating any inkling of what the issues involved in this mayoral race might be
i’m assuming the contest is primarily a referendum on childhood obesity and sodium intake, but I follow new york politics unusually closely
a lot of other people probably have no clue at all
happyfeet (8ce051) — 7/25/2013 @ 10:23 pmi never seen that movie my whole life
i shall endeavor to rectify that
Comment by happyfeet (c60db2) — 7/25/2013 @ 6:13 pm
— You should, Mr. feets. It does a heart good.
Icy (828894) — 7/25/2013 @ 11:28 pmHitchcock was brilliant in the way that he filmed “Rope” — presenting it as one continuous narrative, like the stage play upon which it was based. I still have my VHS copy of that film.
Icy (828894) — 7/25/2013 @ 11:33 pmEvery single time I visit Ken’s popehat.com blog I learn of yet another example of anti speech thuggery that Ken is somehow able to set right. It’s bona fide inspiring stuff, even if his sarcasm tends to fly just over my head a bit more often than I can appreciate (but I seem to be learning).
EPWJ mentioned above that a lot of the commenters here could be decent bloggers and was gracious enough to include me in that list. I honestly don’t think I’ve got what it takes to be a really good blogger. All the bloggers I really value have a judicious nature. They know when to hold off, and they know when to sound the claxons. I have had many occasions where I wish I could dial down what I said five minutes ago. (I think I’ve improved quite a bit on this too). Plus, it is very rare that I want to say something that someone else isn’t saying.
One commenter here who should blog is Sammy Finkleman. I’ve given him a hard time a few times, but he does string together a lot of thoughts that I thinks would be easier to follow if he were making his own posts instead of weaving these ideas together across threads. Once in a while, Sammy sees something I doubt most of us did (albeit a lot of times he sees something I just don’t agree is there).
Anyway, Sammy, if you want someone to help you set up a blog, say the word.
Dustin (50c8ee) — 7/26/2013 @ 2:38 amName it Finkleman’s Malshandiria and I will visit it.
Sarahw (b0e533) — 7/26/2013 @ 6:24 amSammy already has a blog in the comment section 🙂
EPWJ (1cedce) — 7/26/2013 @ 7:58 amSo it turns out that for sexual harassment, the magic number for Democratic tolerance is 6. Six is O.K. but 7 apparently results in calls for resignation, as in the case of Mayor Filner–how many woman has Weiner sexted? maybe the Democrats are just waiting for number 7 to materialize before they insist he drop out.
rochf (f3fbb0) — 7/26/2013 @ 11:34 amfelipe,
I never heard that “it was known” that Jimmy Stewart was not good at learning his lines.
On the contrary, I’ve heard he was good at learning his lines.
Back in the 30s, and 40s, when most films were largely shot on backlots and soundstages as opposed to on location, the films were shot on shorter, tighter schedules. A studio couldn’t afford to have a lead actor who couldn’t keep up with the pace and schedule.
“Rope” was a difficult film, because as Icy points out, there were tons of long singular tracking shots. I don’t know how much you know about film production—particularly back then with the ‘antiquated’ technology they were using—but moving the giant camera was rather difficult, especially considering the single set they were filming the entire movie on. In this film, some cue cards were used to help direct the actors hit their marks to be in position for the camera, as well as cue the actors for some of their lines.
Elephant Stone (6a6f37) — 7/26/2013 @ 11:56 am84. 85. Comment by Dustin (50c8ee) — 7/26/2013 @ 2:38 am
Anyway, Sammy, if you want someone to help you set up a blog, say the word.
What would this entail? In terms of time, and in terms of money?Would I need to buy a new computer?
Comment by Sarahw (b0e533) — 7/26/2013 @ 6:24 am
Name it Finkleman’s Malshandiria and I will visit it.
Malshandria? What does that mean?
In the 1990s somebody set up a conference on 2 BBSs (it went to a second BBS after the first one closed) and he called it The Sammy Zone. that’s a little deprecating, but maybe good. It lasted from 1994 (actually it started in December 1993, but the BBS crashed and the earliest messages were lost) until about 2003, although later it mostly got into computer discussions – mostly to me.
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 7/26/2013 @ 1:06 pm#88 ES
Yes, of course you are right. I say his line lapses were “known” because several directors had expressed dismay (in retrospect)at Mr. Stewart’s shortcomings, albeit in careful terms because Stewart was box office gold! There was a documentary made of Stewart’s career that touched upon this with a film clip from a western. Stewart begins to fumble for his line about tracking someone down and Richard Widmark cuts in with the adlib “He’ll smell them out”!- I cannot remember its title. Maybe Sammy can find it. I had a devil of a time finding the two links I provided.
One of my siblings obtained degree in RTF while residing with me, so I know everything! %-)
Disclaimer: I am a life-long Jimmy Stewart fan!
felipe (6100bc) — 7/26/2013 @ 1:35 pm“Malshadiria”
Sarahw wins the thread! And a lawsuit.*
* The misspelling is intentional – what you want I should get sued, too?
felipe (6100bc) — 7/26/2013 @ 1:37 pmfelipe, I don’t know who these alleged directors are who were secretly dismayed that JS had constant trouble with his lines.
The cue cards in “Rope” were apparently more for stage directions, rather than dialogue, since the tracking shots were difficult, and there were crew members fumbling around setting up the other side of the set while the camera was rolling.
By the way, what is “RTF” ?
Elephant Stone (6a6f37) — 7/26/2013 @ 1:45 pmOh, cool. You’re interested.
You wouldn’t need a new computer and it would be free. I would just try to set it up on wordpress so you can easily log in and write your posts.
You could add the URL to your comments here so we could keep an eye on your blogging.
Email Patterico and ask him to forward the email to me and we’ll discuss what you would want your blog to be named (“The Sammy Zone” sounds fine), look like, if you have a list of blogs you want on a blogroll, etc. It’s no trouble at all for me to help with this.
I used to mess around with BBSs wayyyy back when. Legend of the Red Dragon!
Dustin (2528dc) — 7/26/2013 @ 1:54 pmPopehat.com has a recent post about someone who gets mad if you use that name.
Dustin (2528dc) — 7/26/2013 @ 1:55 pmThat’s actually a news report.
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 7/26/2013 @ 2:13 pmBreitbart.com is following the Obama method for erasing inconvenient information on the Internet.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 7/27/2013 @ 6:37 amI saw that last night, DRJ and groaned out loud.
What a bunch of suckers his voting bloc is. I can’t say Americans deserve better.
Sarahw (b0e533) — 7/27/2013 @ 6:42 amHe probably gives himself eight-foot putts as gimmes, too.
nk (875f57) — 7/27/2013 @ 6:44 amFelipe, in the future, please don’t smear the late great actor James Stewart with knucklehead characterizations. I don’t care if you claim to be one of his biggest fans.
Obama claims to be one of America’s “biggest fans.”
Thank you, and have a nice day.
Elephant Stone (6a6f37) — 7/28/2013 @ 2:55 pmElephant Stone, in fact Rope was deliberately filmed in very long sequences – to the limit of camera film magazine technology of the day (9 minutes?).
The film was also planned such that every 9 minute shot ended on an actor’s back or other monotone background such that the edits between shots would be less obtrusive. The idea was to make a film that appeared to be a single continuous performance like a stage play.
SPQR (768505) — 7/28/2013 @ 2:59 pmSPQR,
Yep, and it was intended to be in ‘real time,’ just like “High Noon.”
Elephant Stone (6a6f37) — 7/28/2013 @ 3:12 pmI have a feeling that Felipe is going to tell us that the characterizations of Jimmy Stewart having difficulty learning his lines will be limited to very late in his career, when he was on the slippery slope into dementia—rather than when he was in his forties, which is the part of his career we’re actually discussing.