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7/24/2013

Timeline of Anthony Weiner’s Sociopathic Sexting and The Dishonesty of Him and His Wife Huma Abedin

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:10 am

Here is the timeline you need to read to understand what a sociopath Anthony Weiner is, and how his wife Huma Abedin has actively helped him lie to the public about his supposed rehabilitation.

The sources for this timeline include:

  • TheDirty.com timeline (TheDirty.com is the site that broke this story) based on interviews with Weiner’s latest sexting partner

June 3-5, 2011: Anthony Weiner (supposedly) dramatically decides not to lie to Huma any more. From the New York Times puff piece:

By June 1, when Weiner said, “I can’t say with certitude” if the picture was of him, it was clear, at least to most of the world, that he was guilty of something. That weekend, Weiner and Abedin escaped to a friend’s house in the Hamptons to get away from all the “hoopla,” as Weiner calls it, “and that’s when people starting coming out of the woodwork. I got a call from Chris Cuomo saying that they had someone who was going to say that I texted with her. It reached this point where I just sat down with Huma and said, ‘Listen, I can’t. . . . I don’t want to lie.’ . . . I just didn’t want to lie anymore to her.” Here, his voice cracks and tears well up in his eyes. “I have a choppy memory of it, but she was devastated. She immediately said, ‘Well you’ve got to stop lying to everyone else too.’ And basically we drove back to the city, and she said: ‘You’ve just got to tell everyone the truth. Telling me doesn’t help any.’ It was brutal. It was completely out of control. There was the crime, there was the cover-up, there was harm I had done to her. And there’s no one who deserved this less than Huma. That’s really the bottom line. No one deserved to have a dope like me do that less than she did.”

Abedin’s memory of this moment is a little sharper. “The weekend was over, we’re about to leave, the car is packed, and Anthony said: ‘I have something to tell you. I can’t lie to you anymore. It’s true. It’s me. The picture is me. I sent it. Yes, these stories about the other women are true.’ And it was every emotion that one would imagine: rage and anger and shock. But more than anything else, in the immediate, it was disbelief. The thing that I consciously remember saying over and over and over again is: ‘I don’t understand. What is going on? What’s happening to our lives?’ ”

June 5, 2011: Andrew Breitbart gets the goods on Weiner. I spoke to Andrew Breitbart on the phone on June 5, 2011, and he told me what he had. This part of the New York Times story still irritates me, because they wrote out of the history books the way that Breitbart’s revelations clearly prompted the hasty press conference. I have much more on this part of the timeline, but have placed it in a separate page because it is a distraction from the flow of this timeline.

June 6, 2011: Hasty press conference called. Weiner admits he had been smearing Breitbart and that he was sexting multiple women.

June 9, 2011: This blog publishes proof that Weiner sent direct messages to a Delaware high school girl, including a reference to “cape and tights,” a grooming line he also used with an adult woman with whom he had sexted.

June 10, 2011: Police show up to the Delaware teen’s home. Acting on the information from my June 9, 2011 blog post, a Fox News reporter is there when police arrive and reports the story.

June 16, 2011: Weiner resigns. Reports later say the revelations of his communications with an underage girl caused President Obama to withdraw his support, leading to his ultimate decision.

June 23, 2011: Mike Stack, one of the “Born Free Crew” who warned young girls on Twitter about Weiner’s sickness, is SWATted. On this same day, “Alicia Pain” writes me to tell me to stop writing about Gennette Cordova and Rep AW:

Please think about your family. This story is not worth it. I can assure you that.

Please remember, your safety cannot be assured if you continue.

July 1, 2011: My family is SWATted.

December 21, 2011: Weiner and Abedin have a baby boy.

July 12, 2012: Weiner starts talking to “Sydney Leathers” (identified by BuzzFeed here), according to this timeline from the site that broke the latest story. Quoting the girl:

Anthony Weiner And I First started talking July 12, 2012.

July 18, 2012: People Magazine puff piece appears:

“It took a lot of work to get to where are are today, but I want people to know we’re a normal family,” says Abedin, 37.

“Anthony has spent every day since [the scandal] trying to be the best dad and husband he can be,” she says of her husband, who does all the laundry. “I’m proud to be married to him.”

July 19, 2012: One day after the People Magazine puff piece appears, Weiner finds Sydney Leathers on Formspring:

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July 19, 2012 – November 2012: Anthony Weiner engages in intense sexual discussions with Sydney Leathers. From the timeline:

Things were very intense by August 2012/already talks of the Chicago sex condo and having sexual conversations. We would send naked images to each other and have phone sex. Anthony Weiner would send me penis pictures from his Carlos Danger yahoo email to my Gmail.

You aren’t going to read this in Big Media, so I think you should see some of the stuff he was saying to this young woman while he was supposedly a diaper-changing new dad whose life was turned around by the birth of his son:

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He really has a thing about gagging women with his erect penis. That concept come up a lot in Weinergate I.

It goes on and on and on like that. From another post:

She really thought Anthony Weiner and her were in love, they spoke on the phone daily multiple times a day for 6 months. Anthony Weiner played with her emotions and mind. Most calls were phone sex. He promised her many things including a condo in Chicago (1235 S. Prairie Ave) where they were planning to meet up to have sex. Anthony Weiner has a shoe fetish, particularly heels.

He even asked her which of the pictures from Weinergate I turned her on the most:

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And, disturbingly for a guy who was talking about “cape and tights” to a high school girl in Delaware — a grooming line he had used with an adult woman with whom he had sexted — Weiner asks Sydney Leathers if her “pussy” is “smooth”:

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Anthony Weiner called himself “Carlos Danger” in some of these messages. He promised the woman a job at Politico but immediately after bringing it up he asked her to “do me a solid” and hard delete all their messages.

November 2012: Carlos Danger and Sydney Leathers’s relationship starts to fizzle out:

By November 2012 our relationship began to fizzle out.

December 2012: Sydney Leathers and Anthony “Carlos Danger” Weiner speak once:

We only spoke once in December 2012 . . .

April 10, 2013: Puff piece appears online in the New York Times that portrays Weiner’s supposed coming clean and being totally honest in June 2011. The article also has Weiner and Abedin portraying their new son as having totally changed Weiner’s perspective:

“But in the confines of our home and our relationship and our parenting this child and our love for each other — she said she wanted to get through it, she wanted not to conflate the giant international news story with the two people who were involved in it. And a lot of women couldn’t do that. And Jordan has given us a lot of perspective. We have to deal with this a lot. It’s not behind us. It kind of bubbles around and comes up in different ways. But she’s, um. . . .” Here, he paused and took a deep breath and started to cry. “She’s given. . . .” He stopped again, could barely get the words out. “She’s given me another chance. And I am very grateful for that. And I’m trying to make sure I get it right.”

Immediately after April 10, 2013 New York Times puff piece: After the appearance of the New York Times puff piece, Weiner reactivates his Facebook account and asks Sydney Leathers what she thought of it:

We only spoke once in December 2012, and then I didn’t hear from Anthony Weiner again until April 11, 2013 when a NYT article about him was released. He reactivated his Facebook and asked me what I thought of it.

May 2013: Weiner enters mayor’s race.

Huma Abedin says she knew about all this. Here is yesterday’s disgusting press conference, in which Weiner says in a sing-song and bored voice that this is nothing new, and his dishonest wife gets up to stand by him.

Here is what Weiner said at the press conference about when his wife knew:

She knew all along this process . . . I was more and more honest with her. I told her everything. This is something we knew going into the decision about whether I would run.

Huma Abedin says “it is between us, and our marriage.” No, ma’am, it isn’t. He is running for the office of Mayor of New York. And you helped him lie about this scandal to help his candidacy. This is a public matter now.

For what it’s worth, the New York Times, the very paper that gave a dishonest wet kiss to Weiner in April, is now telling him to get out of the race.

Mr. Weiner, your antics have become too much even for a paper that was essentially willing to lie for you, sir.

Lucky for you, they will apparently never be too much for the woman, Huma Abedin, who is willing to lie for you, by portraying you as a reformed man when she knew good and damned well you weren’t.

259 Responses to “Timeline of Anthony Weiner’s Sociopathic Sexting and The Dishonesty of Him and His Wife Huma Abedin”

  1. Ding.

    Patterico (9c670f)

  2. for this thread, you should have posted “Ding-a-ling”…

    /hat tip to Chuck Berry 8-)

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  3. I think his “becoming overcome with emotion” is contrived. Or he is overcome with gratitude that Huma encourages him to exploit young Democrat women online… she might even be a ghost writer for him, or she may participate in some activities while he is reading aloud… or maybe she reads them aloud, who knows.
    Two crazy adults bringing the privacy of their bedroom out into the Mayor’s race. Ick.

    He is a carnival barker serving up rehearsed outrage.

    Patterico has probably noticed this, but Weiner stutters like Tony Villaraigosa when he is about to lie.

    SteveG (794291)

  4. For what it’s worth, the New York Times, the very paper that gave a dishonest wet kiss to Weiner in April, is now telling him to get out of the race.

    I guess even the left has limits and standards. But look at how stretched out and flabby they are.

    Mark (18fced)

  5. the left has limits and standards, and, if you don’t like them, they have others as well.

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  6. or maybe she reads them aloud, who knows.

    That really may not be a flippant assumption, since talk about Anthony being into threesomes with males and Huma being into females is out there. So combining that with their anything-goes politics makes kinky indulgences very possible.

    Mark (18fced)

  7. I can’t agree the young woman was exploited when she expressed such very decided opinions about his sexting conducts and scandals; she knew what he was and didn’t disapprove.

    Where she could have gotten any rational impression that her secret chats would be special or that his flattery would be more sincere is a mystery. 22 is young but not that young.

    In that sense she reminds me of the very indignant and obviously blinkered GC who thought Weiner was sincerely interested in her as a person and someone with professional promise – as she simultaneously cultivates such promise with pouty and busty selfies.

    Sarahw (b0e533)

  8. A pair of sociopaths, yes, that’s what the country needs now!

    Carlos Danger anagrams to Scandal Roger.

    htom (412a17)

  9. She wasn’t exploited. She is not a good character in this.

    Patterico (9c670f)

  10. A guest on Bob and Tom this morning said that he wondered whether Huma is getting off on the sexting, maybe she is in on it? I mean, picture Weiner, Spitzer, Huma, and Hillary in a daisy chain…

    John Cunningham (a104b8)

  11. I guess this means GZ is off the front page.

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  12. There is so much wrong with these people, it’s impossible to even look at them. Sorry Huma, and I don’t mean “I’m sorry, Huma”, you and and your husbands are a couple of crawly worms. New Yorkers, if you elect this creepy duo, Fail Safe was the best movie ever made about your city.

    nk (875f57)

  13. Huma may be modeling herself after Hillary: a hapless female linked through careerism to a horndog for whom she has no feelings. Perhaps in the future, if Weiner is successful politically (really? yeah, maybe), she’ll be the wife never ever seen with her philandering dishonest husband in the same room, but who goes on to have political success of her own, and smiles as everyone refuses to talk about how their marriage is a sham, which they fail to discuss mostly because duh.

    Patterico (9c670f)

  14. A guy who recently published a book about Bill and Hillary says he doesn’t think they see each other that often.

    Nobody but nobody thinks they love each other. But they are married, in name anyway.

    Hillary is Huma’s mentor.

    Patterico (9c670f)

  15. To me, that’s a crap decision to make when you are this young and you have a new baby.

    But that part is her business — until she starts participating in public lies about it.

    Patterico (9c670f)

  16. Is it me or is Weiner almost deliberately daring us to not elect him? The guy looks like what I imagine a typical gay porn star would look like, he sexts underage children, he’s got a Muslim wife who wouldn’t leave him if he beheaded her. He’s the arch-typical Democrat.

    CrustyB (69f730)

  17. Hillary is Huma’s mentor.

    Perhaps in more ways than one. Admittedly the following is so-called hearsay. But all the gossip surrounding Hillary for years makes assumptions about her — far more than those about Huma — almost a given—eg, why she has long not mind being a symbolic doormat to Bill.

    coachisright.com, June 2011: In mid 2007 rumors started to circulate about Huma Abedin a stunningly beautiful staffer working for Hillary Clinton. The wagging tongues of Washington asked logical questions about Huma. “If Hillary is bisexual (as had long been thought and occasionally uttered in public), what is the nature of her relationship with the dark eyed enchanting Abedin, a young lady from a strict Muslim family?”

    “Is the fact that Huma was never seen twice in the same designer outfit and lived in a $649,000 condo explainable because she was trading sexual favors with Hillary for a fabulous lifestyle?” “If so what does that make Huma?”

    “How did Huma, whose government salary was listed as $9,999, live as she did?”

    “Is Hillary Clinton a lesbian?”

    Is Huma Abedin her lesbian “kept woman?”

    In 2007 Michael Musto a Village Voice columnist who writes about gay issues commented that Hillary might be “Gayle King-ing” Huma, that is getting her a higher profile in order to head off media scrutiny about her and why Clinton would be “hiding” Huma and the true nature of their relationship.

    In her tell all book about her affair with Bill Clinton Gennifer Flowers wrote that when she asked Bill if Hillary is a lesbian he laughed and made reference to her being more experienced with women then he is.

    Mark (18fced)

  18. He is in the abyss and he is dragging the fools who are his constituency into the same slime. Sigh.

    nk (875f57)

  19. The Weiners are counting on Americans deciding that morality is for the 1950′s, not for today’s world.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  20. How I wronged poor Mark Sanford. Not really, there has to be a bar above the lowest common denominator.

    nk (875f57)

  21. It’s funny how Democrats say the GOP (and conservatives in particular) are engaging in a “war on women”. And yet, Democrats like Abedin, like Hillary Clinton before her, enable and encourage, actively promote, sexual predation of women.

    You know what Sydney Leathers, Huma Abedin, or Hillary Clinton aren’t? Victims.

    SteveAR (874296)

  22. According to the lovely Sandra Fluke, it’s the wicked “conservative, evangelical, Tea Party Republicans” who are responsible for the little Weiner’s sexting.

    Since we wicked conservatives won’t pay every penny of poor women’s birth control, the little Weiner was behaving responsibly in not engaging in behavior that might knock up some poor woman. The notion that, if he’s horny,l he could turn to someone like his wife seems to have eluded the lovely Miss Fluke>

    The amused Dana (3e4784)

  23. What an atrocious pair.

    Andy (b63f79)

  24. I have a question for female commenters here (sexist, I know).

    Did you think Huma dressed in an odd fashion for that press conference? It looked odd to me. Ms. Huma worked for how long with HRC? She knows the ropes.

    The whole tone of her presence seemed odd to me. Not ashamed. Odd.

    Simon Jester (9c1dc2)

  25. Weiner keeps texting his weiner, as he understands that being a degenerate devoid of values is considered an asset to his voting base. Look for a landslide victory.

    as seen here: https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2013/07/24/weiner-appeals-to-democratic-party-core/

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  26. “Odd” how, Mr. Jester? FWIW, I thought she looked lovely.

    Icy (d41128)

  27. Now, how she acted is a different matter altogether.

    Icy (d41128)

  28. Weiner is a typical liberal: a liar, a hypocrite, and a scumbag.

    Whitey Ford (26dd88)

  29. Simon–I pretty much said all I had to say about them (especially Huma) yesterday evening on the earlier thread. I think clearly they are both sick puppies. I did wonder momentarily if she might be preggers again but many women wear full skirts in the summer. Guess we’ll find out soon enough.

    elissa (f37308)

  30. Her demeanor and outfit seemed odd to me, yes. She looked like a worn out housewife, not a trophy wife.

    She reminds me of the phrase “utterly indiscriminate” used by writers describing the left’s prohibition against moral judgment. Huma has no moral compass left; all that remains is the career and “the cause” of progressivism. So she goes to therapy to talk herself out of her husband’s moral depravity, and then tacitly even supports it. No wonder she’s worn out.

    Patricia (be0117)

  31. Anthony Weiner is a sick, pencil-necked, pervert, a modern day flasher, and his wife, whatever she is, is at least smart enough to avoid being caught on camera.

    But, on second thought, somehow, nagging at the back of my mind, Anthony is exactly the sort of guy who’d sneak a camera into his bedroom.

    I don’t think we’ve seen the last of the these two twisted pumpkins not by a long shot.

    ropelight (fefd68)

  32. Weiner in 2013: “I have a choppy memory of it, but she was devastated.”

    He didn’t claim that in 2011.

    In 2011, he said:

    http://www.nypost.com/f/print/news/local/full_transcript_of_weiner_news_conference_JxlqpgCFcbffrWKKcwsyLL#axzz2ZyVDtH8J (note this leads to a page to print)

    My wife has known about some of these online relationships since before we were married. And we spoke frankly about them because — well, we spoke frankly about them.

    He stops himself, because if he went on hed be saying “because of the dangers to my political career if this became known.”

    He also said:

    …my primary apology, as I’ve said several times, is to my wife Huma. But she made it very clear that she thought what I did was very dumb, and she was not happy about it. But she also — and she’s very disappointed — and she also told me that she loved me, and wanted us to, you know, to pull through this.

    Also from that press conference in 2011:

    Q: Are you going to split up?

    REP. WEINER: I love my wife very much, and we have no intention of splitting up over this.

    Q: What kind of — (off mic) — relationship –

    Q: Where is she?

    REP. WEINER: We have been through — we have been through a great deal together, and we will — we will weather this. I love her very much, and she loves me.

    Through a great deal together?

    Also:

    Do you think it was inappropriate because you were married?

    REP. WEINER: I think it is more inappropriate, things that I have done since I married.

    Q: Then why –

    REP. WEINER: My primary — my primary sense of regret and my primary apology goes to my wife. I should not have done this, and I should not have done this, particularly when I was married. That’s why I make that distinction.

    Sammy Finkelman (7583fb)

  33. Abedin’s memory of this moment is a little sharper. “The weekend was over, we’re about to leave, the car is packed, and Anthony said: ‘I have something to tell you. I can’t lie to you anymore. It’s true. It’s me. The picture is me. I sent it.”

    I’m sorry, but, how does a woman not know that the picture is of her husband/boyfriend? I certainly could see the similarities…

    She had to have at least admitted the similarities too and given that she knew about his proclivities before they were married (even the NYT had to admit), how could she not even suspect that it might be him?

    ratbeach (f5aad4)

  34. The Weiners are counting on Americans deciding that morality is for the 1950′s, not for today’s world.

    Comment by DRJ (a83b8b) — 7/24/2013 @ 8:04 am

    Yep; their whole demeanor at the press conference pretty much screamed that worldview. It was pretty shocking, really, how comfortable and unstressed they both seemed up there. Couldn’t help another shocked laugh at Weiner making a big show of looking at his watch as the presser started, as in, don’t waste too much of my time here; I’ve got more important things to do.

    no one of consequence (325a59)

  35. Comment by Simon Jester (9c1dc2) — 7/24/2013 @ 8:17 am

    Couldn’t tell you what she was wearing but I agree w/ elissa above; she seems as sick a puppy as her husband. I’ve never heard her speak before and guess I assumed she wasn’t as down as she seemed yesterday w/ his behavior.

    no one of consequence (325a59)

  36. angle of dangle
    she’ll put teh horns on him soon
    Huma-ing him now

    Colonel Haiku (b924f9)

  37. Comment by Sarahw (b0e533) — 7/24/2013 @ 7:36 am

    Where she could have gotten any rational impression that her secret chats would be special or that his flattery would be more sincere is a mystery.

    Probably the length of time he spent on them.

    Sammy Finkelman (7583fb)

  38. I really would love to see just one reporter at a press conference say something like, “So Mr. Danger do you really think you can win the Mayoral race?”. The response of Weiner would be a priceless piece of film.

    Psycotte (077749)

  39. 33. Obviously they were lying to the New York Times. The question is: Was it a plausible lie?

    Now it really wasn’t. If the writers had ony gone and checked the record.

    Sammy Finkelman (7583fb)

  40. 17. Mark, quoting from coachisright.com: In her tell all book about her affair with Bill Clinton Gennifer Flowers wrote that when she asked Bill if Hillary is a lesbian he laughed and made reference to her being more experienced with women then he is. There were some obvious motives for Bill Clinton to tell such a story to Gennifer Flowers.

    Sammy Finkelman (7583fb)

  41. 11.Comment by Kevin M (bf8ad7) — 7/24/2013 @ 7:44 am

    guess this means GZ is off the front page.

    He disappeared the day before. On MOnday the New York Daily News didn’t have anything at all about him, except for letters to the editor.

    Meanwhile, I’ve discvered some serious discrepancies between what GZ said in his walktrhough with the police on Feb 27, 2012 and what the recording of the telephone call to the non-emergency number reveals.

    Sammy Finkelman (7583fb)

  42. I feel for the lovely Huma
    This scandal has now been exhumad
    She lied for Hil
    Now comes her Bill
    But his race for mayor is doomad

    The Limerick Avenger (3e4784)

  43. Political distinctions today seem to be less liberal vs conservative than they are lewd vs decent. I can think of at least a dozen examples off the top of my head, from the gleeful use of the phrase teabaggers to feces and tampon wielding pro-choice demonstrators.

    It seems to go beyond the deliberate use of lewdness to silence and cow political opponents. A fixation with sexual expression and a lack of common decency seems to be a deep part of modern leftist identity. Maybe this is tied to their association with extreme homoerotic gender confusion and their elevating of sexual license to a mandatory consequence-free constitutionally guaranteed human right.

    Whether it’s sociopathic or just plain evil, or both, I don’t know. I do know that our entire culture seems to be enthralled with it, to the direct detriment of the families and children that are our future. Oh, and it’s not good for women’s health.

    Amphipolis (d3e04f)

  44. I’m a woman with a pretty liberal acceptance of sexuality. I cannot in my wildest dreams imagine standing in front of the entire nation to support a serial-philandering husband…twice (so far).

    How does this woman look herself in the mirror?

    creeper (9a0929)

  45. Maybe Huma doesn’t recognise her hubbys junk is because the only junk she has seen is Hillary’s?

    MSL (a6c719)

  46. How does this woman look herself in the mirror?

    maybe she doesn’t have a reflection?

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  47. Was Anthony Weiner’s brother in on this?

    From Patterico’s post:

    Immediately after April 10, 2013 New York Times puff piece: After the appearance of the New York Times puff piece, Weiner reactivates his Facebook account and asks Sydney Leathers what she thought of it…

    From the Dirty, the message says this:

    this is gonna sound odd, but are we ok? i turned my fb back on after the sotry to field the onslaught and to hear the feedback. well, my brother emailed me asking about you and whether i pissed you off. he told me to look at your feed, but nothing seems about me. maybe he was tallying up pro and con comments and took one of your pithy posts as being something bad about me. (which btw, i totally wouldnt blame anybody) ill call you back, but just checking. like i said, odd.

    Sounds like he knew he was running for mayor and wanted to tie up any loose ends (he announced he would be running May 22, 2013).

    There also has to be other girls out there. We’ll see if they come forward.

    ratbeach (f5aad4)

  48. If he’s not successful in NYC, there’s always Berkeley, Madison, Austin and Boulder. Those cities all have an abundance of “open minded highly educated clear thinkers!!”

    moron (a41094)

  49. Abedin follows in the footsteps of Hillary Clinton and the late Mrs. Edwards: ANYTHING for power. ANYTHING. She is complicit in his lies. Mark my words: if he bombs, SHE will be the one who is put up for election in the future.

    My questions: does he know or know of Brett Kimberlin? Neil R.? Where is he getting the money to pay for their $14,000 a month apartment?

    Anonymous Lurker (0fd9f2)

  50. There was a lil’ Weiner named Tony
    Whose marriage was just a big phony
    His wife shilled for Hil
    Tony thought he was Bill
    But he was just full of baloney.

    The Limerick Avenger (3e4784)

  51. 33. Comment by ratbeach (f5aad4) — 7/24/2013 @ 8:34 am

    how could she not even suspect that it might be him?

    Back in 2011, all that Anthony Weiner said was:

    But she didn’t know until this morning that I had not been telling the truth about whether I posted the Twitter posting last week.

    – Anthony Weiner, Monday June 6, 2011. he’s limiting himself only to the question of whether he sent it (I’m inclined to believe that Anthony Weiner didn’t have any idea how it got tweeted and he never intentionally sent it. It probably got tweeted because when he attempted to upload the picture to his yfrog account without being logged in, a tweet was autmatically issued. If that explanation isn’t right, then probably someone connected to the Chinese government hacked into his account to benefit John Liu)

    But this year, to the New York Times, Huma Abedin said:

    The weekend was over, we’re about to leave, the car is packed, and Anthony said: ‘I have something to tell you. I can’t lie to you anymore. It’s true. It’s me. The picture is me. I sent it. Yes, these stories about the other women are true.’

    In the first place, this is not Monday morning, but Sunday night. And you can’t say he’s not admitting the sdending, because here he does. In the third place, that the picture was of him, or that there could be such picture, is somethng she would know, according to what Anthony Weiner said on June 6, 2011:

    My wife has known about some of these online relationships since before we were married. And we spoke frankly about them because — well, we spoke frankly about them.

    The New Yofrk Times earlier this year simply did not check the record. It was not consistent with what Anthony weiner had said earlier.

    Sammy Finkelman (be6791)

  52. Count on The New York Times to have a story very soon outing a closeted Republican congressman or exposing a Republican’s extramarital affair; attention must be diverted.

    The realistic Dana (3e4784)

  53. Comment by The Limerick Avenger

    Tony thought he was Bill
    But he was just full of baloney.

    He’s not Bill. He’s an imitation – and Bill’s puppet.

    Bill and Hillary Clinton are not so ready to give up on him, so he’ll stay in the race.

    Sammy Finkelman (be6791)

  54. I am no more interested in this pathological liar, and sociopath, today than I was when he first popped up on the radar.
    In a way it was unfortunate that he resigned, as having him, and Debbie Wasserman Shultz as the faces of the Democrat Party was hilarious – and fitting!

    askeptic (b8ab92)

  55. he got his career path wrong …he should have gone for porn star ..augh! here is info and pictures from the girl her name is sydney
    http://dailyentertainmentnews.com/breaking-news/sydney-leathers-sidneyelainexo-anthony-weiner-mistress-in-sextting-scandal/

    karla81 (1fdf78)

  56. Ratbeach @ 47

    Was Anthony Weiner’s brother in on this?

    Anthony Weiner’s surviving brother Jason (the other, Seth, was killed while attempting to cross a busy highway in Alexandria Virginia in the year 2000 – the 46-year old woman driver was arrested on a felony hit-and-run charge) was quoted in the New York Times article as saying:

    I wouldn’t stand for other people saying this about him, but there was definitely a douchiness about him that I just don’t really see anymore.

    So, yes, he was enlisted in a cover-up. (although technically, Anthony Weiner did not say it ended in June 2011)

    Sammy Finkelman (be6791)

  57. 17. Mark, quoting from coachisright.com: In her tell all book about her affair with Bill Clinton Gennifer Flowers wrote that when she asked Bill if Hillary is a lesbian he laughed and made reference to her being more experienced with women then he is. There were some obvious motives for Bill Clinton to tell such a story to Gennifer Flowers.

    Sammy, I have to disagree somewhat. What it also shows is that even back then, Flowers felt she had to ask the question regarding HIllary’s sexual preference. That was nearly 30 yrs ago. Why did she feel she had to ask that question? That tells us a lot, a whole bunch a lot, about how Hillary even way back then was perceived regarding her sexual preference.

    Just ask yourself: Could any of us see JFK’S mistresses asking “Jack, about Jackie. Is she really straight or is it all an act?”

    Remember the old saying: If the question has to be asked…must be true. And public truth is always the perception.

    Kenneth Simmons (6f8eca)

  58. She knew all along this process . . .

    These Democrats have a process for everything.

    Which is convenient because every time they literally or figuratively step on their cranks they can then demand we “let the process play out” and not rush to judgement. As they drag things out to play for time and hire image consultants.

    As far as this Huma Abedin creature goes, I haven’t seen it explicitly mentioned but it seems to me this marriage is a purely political arrangement. Like the Clintons.’

    I would not be surprised if these women couldn’t care less about their husbands’ sex lives as long as it doesn’t interfere with the long march to the WH, the state house, or in Weiner’s case to Gracie Mansion.

    I was struck by how coldly calculating the Clinton’s marriage was back in the ’90s when it was revealed that they used to make Chelsea cry as a kid by asking her the kind of questions a politician would have to handle.

    Sure enough they dragged Chelsea years later into defending dad over the Lewinsky affair. She was at a round table discussion on a college campus and a student asked about it. She went off on him telling him it was a private matter and none of his business what her dad did in the oval office.

    That was one of those formative experiences that prepared me to never be shocked by the lies liberals tell themselves. There’s no way a liberal would tell you that it’s a private matter what one of the Koch brothers does with a Koch Industries intern in the Koch Industries executive office suite.

    And there’s sure as hell no way a liberal would ever say that it was a private matter after one of the Koch brothers lost a sexual harassment lawsuit, and his law license after the judge sanctioned him, for among other things convincing that intern to lie for him in a deposition.

    But here they are years later saying that very thing about Clinton. Even his own daughter. Good job mom & dad. Now there’s a piece of work.

    In any case if Huma is one tenth the protege of Hillary! that Chelsea is she’ll stick by her man just as long as she can ride his coat tails to the point where she can advance her own career.

    Now that being first lady or whatever is a resume bullet in its own right(?!?).

    Steve57 (2dd692)

  59. Doesn’t Huma looked bored as she’s standing next to Weiner waiting to speak? Like, “Ho hum; another sexting outbreak to deal with.”

    Like it’s just another thing on her to-do list between “power lunch with Muslim Brotherhood representatives” and “dinner with Hillary! to pass along their instructions.”

    Steve57 (2dd692)

  60. Comment by Kenneth Simmons (6f8eca) — 7/24/2013 @ 9:42 am

    What it also shows is that even back then, Flowers felt she had to ask the question regarding HIllary’s sexual preference. That was nearly 30 yrs ago. Why did she feel she had to ask that question?

    Well, Gennifer Flowers wasn’t the first and only person that Bill Clinton would want believing that.

    She asked him because she’d heard it. Not because it was true, but because it was a rumor that Bill Clinton had created and helped spread. That’s what I’d assume.

    Just ask yourself: Could any of us see JFK’S mistresses asking “Jack, about Jackie. Is she really straight or is it all an act?”

    JFK didn’t tell lies about Jackie.

    Sammy Finkelman (be6791)

  61. That’s what I’d assume.

    assumption is the mother of all screw-ups

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  62. Huma, Hillary, Elizabeth… these women were never victims. They were willing participants in deceitful cover ups in order to keep or attain power. They deserve no pity.

    Ghost (996b5a)

  63. Did you see our friend Ted Rall wrote a defense of this guy?

    Auntie fraud (6c3682)

  64. What it also shows is that even back then, Flowers felt she had to ask the question regarding HIllary’s sexual preference. That was nearly 30 yrs ago. Why did she feel she had to ask that question?

    Well, Gennifer Flowers wasn’t the first and only person that Bill Clinton would want believing that.

    She asked him because she’d heard it. Not because it was true, but because it was a rumor that Bill Clinton had created and helped spread. That’s what I’d assume.

    Just ask yourself: Could any of us see JFK’S mistresses asking “Jack, about Jackie. Is she really straight or is it all an act?”

    JFK didn’t tell lies about Jackie.

    Thats not the real point. The real point is that it simply didn’t occur to the elite society people who hung out with the elite politicians of that era that Jackie was gay. If you have seen or read evidence that might cast doubt on Jackie’s orientation feel free to present it.

    For all intents and purposes the fact that the question has to even be asked, generally means its true. If someone like Flowers can see there’s something up,…and she’s not been the only one to privately and publicly comment on Hillary’s orientation. After 30 yrs if the questions persist, it very well could be true.

    Why would Flowers ask it? Would she have asked the question to Bill if Bill’s wife were say, Christie Brinkley? Really? Heck no.

    And that’s the point. If it has to be even asked….

    Kenneth Simmons (6f8eca)

  65. “guess this means GZ is off the front page.”

    More importantly, the black-on-black slaughter in the inner cities is off the front page.

    Patricia (be0117)

  66. The little Weiner is a politician, and has been a successful one; there’s just no way he couldn’t know that, once he lost his last job to a sexting scandal, if he continued doing that and ran for another political office, there would be people checking on this, looking hard for any vulnerabilities they could exploit. While he has an obsession problem, he also has an intelligence problem: he’s just to plain fornicating stupid to be Mayor of New York.

    The realistic Dana (3e4784)

  67. Make that too plain fornicating stupid . . .

    The Dana who really can spelll (3e4784)

  68. Dana, I think that 0 has demonstrated that the intelligence requirements for political office have been lowered. The population seems not to have noticed. We still need a little child to point this out, the adults are not believable.

    htom (412a17)

  69. heh teh New York Times
    they’re willfully moronic
    no one’s that stupid

    Colonel Haiku (819c71)

  70. will huma’s walk away soon quicken?
    leave Anthony choking his chicken?
    with web-sluts he lopes mule
    while his wife looks the fool
    or will this fowl plot surely thicken?

    Colonel Haiku (fb49f6)

  71. I’m inclined to believe that Anthony Weiner didn’t have any idea how it got tweeted and he never intentionally sent it. It probably got tweeted because when he attempted to upload the picture to his yfrog account without being logged in, a tweet was autmatically issued. If that explanation isn’t right, then probably someone connected to the Chinese government hacked into his account to benefit John Liu)

    I don’t know whether to laugh, or cry.

    JD (04363b)

  72. Count on The New York Times to have a story very soon outing a closeted Republican congressman or exposing a Republican’s extramarital affair; attention must be diverted.

    No, knowing the NYT they will find a deputy county clerk in some remote hamlet upstate who just happens to be registered as a Republican, and they will try to equate the magnitude of his problems to those of Weiner.

    JVW (23867e)

  73. The press conference was at some kind of gay men’s health center. That seems like an odd location for this kind of announcement, doesn’t it? Or is Carlos trying really, really, really hard to try to tell NY’ers something. If so, he’s gotta be asking himself what more do I have to do?

    crazy (d60cb0)

  74. htom noted above that Carlos Danger is an anagram for “Scandal Roger”. However, I believe other anagrams of this nom de web give even deeper insights into Weiner’s self-image.

    Carlos Danger = “A Record Glans”.

    Or, even more hubristically, an “Orcas Dangler”.

    Perhaps it reminded Weiner of the subject line of one of his texts: “Re Rascal Dong”.

    One thing we can sure of, he wasn’t thinking “Re Clad Organs”.

    john galt (5d93bc)

  75. Wiener went with “Carlos Danger” because “Ima Douchebag” was already taken…

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  76. The interesting debate would be whether apparently non-violent sexual predators like the ex-Congressman should be incarcerated during their treatment.

    Instead New York is debating whether to make him mayor.

    Beldar (7626b1)

  77. Comment by Patricia (be0117) — 7/24/2013 @ 10:59 am

    More importantly, the black-on-black slaughter in the inner cities is off the front page.

    Off the front page, but there’s quite a lot in the paper about the efforts by people to bring back crime.

    They’re attacking from several different directions at once, judicially, legislatively, and the executive branch. (DOJ)

    Yesterday Mayor Bloomberg vetoed 2 bills by the City Council designed to bring back crime, but it may be hard to prevent them from beinmg overridden.

    One bill would create an Inspector General in the Police Department (not a problem if the right person is elected mayor next year, but the wrong person could really cement in bad policies) and the other one would allow lawsuits over profiling.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/24/nyregion/bloomberg-vetoes-measures-for-police-monitor-and-lawsuits.html

    This article appeared on Page A21 of the New York Times today. There was also a daily news editorial entuitled “Clear and Present Danger”

    http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/clear-present-danger-article-1.1407198

    In its entirety:

    Clear and present danger

    The City Council’s dangerous policing legislation

    For the lives and safety of 8.4 million New Yorkers, Mayor Bloomberg on Tuesday vetoed two of the most short-sighted, wrong-headed and just plain dangerous pieces of legislation ever passed by the New York City Council.

    Written in the overheated fervor over the NYPD’s strategy of stopping, questioning and sometimes frisking people suspected of criminality, the bills would impose an inspector general on the police department and recklessly expose individual officers and the department as a whole to lawsuits over alleged claims of bias.

    The legislation flies in the face of the NYPD’s continuing and remarkable success in driving down crime. The Council appears set to override Bloomberg’s veto. It has run wild in utter disregard for the well-being of New Yorkers.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  78. non-violent sexual predators like the ex-Congressman

    He’s not a predator, but he is someone who has no feelings for what he is doing to women who communicate with him.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  79. Oh, my. The DuffleBlog has the scoop — Weiner to AF Sexual Assault Prevention Chief!

    htom (412a17)

  80. Wouldn’t it be just desserts if Weiner’s peccadillos are also a drag on Eliot Spitzer’s campaign, and they both go down to ignoble electoral defeat?

    JVW (23867e)

  81. Sammy, that’s great, but it’s only one city that’s dealing with the problem.

    Patricia (be0117)

  82. SF: “I’m inclined to believe that Anthony Weiner didn’t have any idea how it got tweeted and he never intentionally sent it. It probably got tweeted because when he attempted to upload the picture to his yfrog account without being logged in, a tweet was autmatically issued.

    Explanation: Anthony Weiner was completely surprised by the tweet, and did not even known about it until after patriotusa76 “Dan Wolfe” manually retweeted it. Nor would it have made any sense for him to tweet it openly. GennetteNicole, for whom it may have been intended (probably, like AW said, as a joke – saying it was a joke makes no sense unless it is the truth – the joke being he wanted to say that could be his new avatar.)

    Nor could it have been a simple mistake. A change of more than one character is needed to change a DM to a public posting.

    But at that time, somebody demonstrated, Yfrog at that time had a bug. Uploading a picture to a Yfrog address if someone was not logged in resulted in the emission of a tweet containing a link to the uploaded picture and apparently a caption if there was one.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  83. SF: “If that explanation isn’t right, then probably someone connected to the Chinese government hacked into his account to benefit John Liu)”

    There was something mysterious going on that some people were at great pains to hide. Nobody wanted anyone to know who was behind the sockpuppets.

    Dan Wolfe knew about the yfrog collection before. Hacking is a possible way of knowing about it.

    The other is that a bug enabled him to see all the pictures once one was tweeted. And one of them had been tweeted twice before. Nothing that happened Friday, May 27, 2011 should have given “Dan Wolfe” access to the Weiner Yfrog picture collection if he didn’t have access to it from a similar tweet before. If that’s not correct we have the hacking explanation.

    John Liu is the type of enemy of Weiner who would also be an enemy of Andrew Breitbart or have no trouble making him the fall guy. John Liu got secret contributions probably ultimately coming from China. His campaign people have been convicted in federal court – yet he goes on. A Chinese source would reasonably have a good better connections on the West Coast, but otherwise there’s not such an good reason to have somebody anti-Weiner in California.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  84. War on Women ! Or whatever !

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  85. Sammy, “The X-Files” was cancelled a number of years ago.

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  86. JFK didn’t tell lies about Jackie.

    Comment by Sammy Finkelman

    Because he wasn’t remotely interested in her. Seriously, I don’t think he thought of her from one day’s end to the next.

    Dianna (b7aa4f)

  87. Sammy misses the point that if this sick freak hadn’t been taking pr0n shots and posting them to the web, one way or another, that there never would have been a problem…

    it’s always interesting how certain parties try and make excuses for bad/stupid behavior, instead of simply acknowledging that said actions were wrong.

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  88. i’d be embarrassed to have anthony weiner as my dad cause of he’s a perverted whore and I wouldn’t be too jazzed about mom neither

    happyfeet (c60db2)

  89. Sammy, your Jesse Ventura conspiracy theories are entertaining.

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  90. The Liu Conspiracy is especially awesome.

    JD (54c5d8)

  91. Right up there with Chupacabras and the Greys, JD.

    narciso (3fec35)

  92. JD, I’m surprised Sammy has yet to introduce an Edward Snowden angle to all of this particularly since Snowden coincidentally announced today (!!!!) that he intends to remain in Russia.
    And who could forget that Snowden’s girlfriend is a pole dancer.

    I’m sure Sammy will connect the dots for us.

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  93. Just when you think Weiner can’t sink any lower, he does:

    Serial sexter Anthony Weiner begged supporters to hang with him, telling them today “a rough time” in his marriage prompted him to keep sending sexually explicit words and pictures to women he’s never met.

    In a letter released this afternoon, Weiner apologized but also seemed to shift blame for his pervy behavior to his marriage to former State Department aide Human Abedin.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  94. Comment by redc1c4 (abd49e) — 7/24/2013 @ 2:04 pm

    Sammy misses the point that if this sick freak hadn’t been taking pr0n shots and posting them to the web, one way or another, that there never would have been a problem…

    Well, of course. But he didn’t (intentionally) make any of them public.

    There were apparently people in politics who knew all about this and he may have been blackmailed into not running for Mayor in 2009.

    In About-Face, Wolfson Now Works for Bloomberg New York Times July 12, 2009, page MB1

    Mr. Wolfson claimed his first Democratic scalp in May, as Mr. Weiner — once a close ally in the Clinton campaigns — dropped out of the mayoral race amid a Wolfson-led behind-the-scenes campaign to force him to do just that.

    Working with a local press corps he had cultivated for years, Mr. Wolfson and his team dug up and then pushed a steady stream of politically damaging tidbits about Mr. Weiner, giving the congressman an early taste of what he might face come the fall.

    In one instance, Mr. Wolfson’s team discovered that Mr. Weiner had introduced a bill making it easier for foreign-born fashion models to work in the United States. In New York’s tabloid news culture — one Mr. Wolfson navigates well — the discovery produced unflattering news stories packaged with photographs of the congressman and sultry exotic models.

    No matter that Mr. Weiner was someone Mr. Wolfson dispatched frequently as a surrogate against President Obama during last year’s primaries, or that Mr. Weiner’s fiancée, Huma Abedin, is a confidante of Mrs. Clinton’s whom Mr. Wolfson once considered a friend.

    But Mr. Wolfson said that it was a fair fight and that he relished what he had accomplished. His team commemorated Mr. Weiner’s departure from the race by tacking on a wall in their office a photograph of the congressman in his goalie uniform during a pickup hockey game, with a caption quoting him as saying, “This is not a time for playing games; it’s a time for problem-solving.”

    Reading between the lines, perhaps this was a gradual escalation, and Woldfson knew about a little more than models. He might have heard about it from Huma Abedin, for one thing.

    Weiner, of course, gave a different reason for dropping out:

    Why I’m Not Running for Mayor by ANTHONY WEINER Op-ed piece May 27, 2009 New York Times , page A27

    About two months ago I announced that I would postpone deciding whether to run. I believed the issues we were confronting in Congress were important and decisions about campaigns could wait…..I’ve taken stock of my life, my work in Washington and decided that now is not the right time to run. I believe I have a contribution to make in Congress fighting for New Yorkers. (I’d also like to build a family.)

    He also mentioned money.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  95. Sammy, did it ever occur to you that bank robbers don’t intend to get caught, either ?

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  96. Jesse Ventura’s conspiracy theories

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_Theory_with_Jesse_Ventura

    sound like the usual nonsense.

    They have all kinds of things wrong with them

    What’s something that I consider plausible?

    For instance, I am looking into the idea that Mae West had killed President Harding (before she was famous) probably by poisoning.

    There is one thing that gave me the idea it was a possibility and then I checked:

    The possibility is not eliminated. In fact, it looks like there’s a mystery here:

    …She spent the latter half of 1923, and most of 1924 and 1925, in comparative obscurity, away from the glare of the highly visible New York
    stage and its attendant publicity.

    Where, exactly, did she go during this interval? What was she doing?

    – Becoming Mae West by Emily Wortis Leider (Farrar Straus Giroux, 1997) page 128.

    She doesn’t know! She says trying to sell sheet music with her picture on the front cover, for starters. Then she mentions that she occasionally
    visited Harlem “black-and-tan” clubs – but that’s all through the 1920s.

    How else was she occupied…Jon Tuska’s The Films of Mae West conjectures that she may have resorted to bit parts in burlesque, on the raunchy Mutual Circuit, where, according to Billboard route lists, there was a May or Mae West in the chorus of several shows at Brooklyn’s Star Theatre. It seems unlikely, however, that the chorus girl in French Models was our Mae; if she were would the Billboard reviewer have grumbled about how young and inexperienced the chorus was? A return to burlesque after she’d appeared at the Palace, and received accolades for her work in a long-running Broadway hit, and while she still maintained a tenuous connection with the Keith circuit, doesn’t seem plausible. Mae West had demonstrated her aversion to poorly paid supporting roles and displayed a willingness to turn down parts she considered bad career moves and to wait for the right one.

    – Becoming Mae West by Emily Wortis Leider (Farrar Straus Giroux, 1997) page 129.

    Then she notes that men, or even her mother, could have supported her, and that she briefly returned to vaudeville in 1924, and in March of
    that year was in Houston and nearly got married to a Variety reporter named Bud Burmeister. In 1935 the Los Angeles Examiner said that was a
    distorted publicity gag.

    The answer could be that she was carrying on an affair with President Harding, which she ended by murdering him, after which she laid low, till it was clear that nobody knew..

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  97. Comment by Elephant Stone (6a6f37) — 7/24/2013 @ 2:45 pm

    did it ever occur to you that bank robbers don’t intend to get caught, either?

    This is more like embezzlement – the intention is nobody should know it even happened.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  98. 92. He’s not blaming his wife – he’s blaming stress, in some mysterious fashion.

    The idea there is that this is something that will not happen again, because the stress is gone. You can only be exposed in public once, and his wife has accommodated herself to that having happened.

    The bottom line is that to really lose votes people have to worry that it will happen again or that it is still going on.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  99. Sammy,

    Weiner was communicating with these women/underage minors via social media where he was exposing (pun intended) his own face and name.
    How can you therefore compare it to an act such as embezzlement, which generally does not involve a second or third or fourth party in order to facillitate it ?

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  100. This scumbag has never had an honest job in his life, has been out of office for awhile, lives in rather tony digs in New York, has a high lifestyle, and no one in the media is interested in figuring out whose fronting the money for him.

    No one.

    SPQR (768505)

  101. Comment by JD (54c5d8) — 7/24/2013 @ 2:18 pm

    The Liu Conspiracy is especially awesome.

    What’s keeping Liu in the race?

    He’s low in the polls, around 7%, and didn’t get some union endorsements he hoped for, but he’s making an enormous number of public appearances before small groups, mostly immigrants who other people don’t know about and who know no other politicians.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  102. Even if Sammy is a little off on this theory, he’s highlighting an important angle. Weiner is the primest of primes for blackmail potential. For that reason alone, he’s disqualified himself from holding public office.

    At least in a just society, he would be disqualified.

    Ghost (996b5a)

  103. DRJ, Comment 92. Good Lord. “Huma gave me the cold shoulder and I could not live without love obscene texts.” He’s a pig.

    But a special thanks for the link. I don’t believe I had seen Huma’s legs before. They’re nice. ;)

    nk (875f57)

  104. Anthony Weiner always emphasizes that he never met these women and never had any extramarital affair.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  105. huma gave me the cold shoulder…

    I can’t find that anywhere.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  106. Mae West poisoned Tonya Harding ?
    Say what ?

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  107. Comment by SPQR (768505) — 7/24/2013 @ 2:57 pm

    This scumbag has never had an honest job in his life, has been out of office for awhile, lives in rather tony digs in New York, has a high lifestyle, and no one in the media is interested in figuring out whose fronting the money for him.

    No one.

    Well, we all know the answer to that one:

    Bill and/or Hillary Clinton.

    Not their own money, but they arranged it.

    Once Anthony Weiner filed financial disclosure statements nobody in the media either 1) published many details or 2) asks why.

    Senator Grassley tries to imagine a simple motive for someone paying Huma Abedin.

    Huma Abedin fails to respond to Senator’s inquiry into her work for private contractor while she was still working for Hillary at the State Department – New York Daily News July 5/6

    Abedin was working as a consultant to the Teneo company from June 2012 to Februray 2013.

    Grassley asked if Teneo, a “global strategic consulting firm,” paid Abedbin to glean “political intelligence” for clients from the federal government.

    But that, of course, misses the key fact:

    Private Equity Firm Linked to Bill Clinton, Tony Blair Set to Grow

    Of course, the dots are not so easy to connect. Bill Clinton cut his official connection to Teneo probably before Huma Abedin acquired one.

    This is not a small network.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  108. Comment by Elephant Stone (6a6f37) — 7/24/2013 @ 3:09 pm

    Mae West poisoned Tonya Harding ?
    Say what ?

    No, President Warren Gamaliel Harding, in 1923.

    Bear in mind, that in the early summer of 1923, when President Harding Mae West was not yet 30 years old. (unless she was lying about her age)

    All of her films were made when she older, almost 40 or older.

    There are not I think two accounts of why President Harding died that give the real same cause of death.

    There were several near misses before he actually died.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  109. Sammy 104, I was reading between the lines, “rough time in our marriage”. How do you translate it?

    nk (875f57)

  110. Comment by Ghost (996b5a) — 7/24/2013 @ 2:58 pm

    Weiner is the primest of primes for blackmail potential. For that reason alone, he’s disqualified himself from holding public office.

    He’s completely under the thumb of Bill Clinton. He would have nothing and be nothing without him.

    He can’t even even invent his own lies.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  111. Sammy,

    Then who poisoned Tonya Harding ? And what was former President Harding doing hanging out at the ice skating rink ?

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  112. Comment by Elephant Stone (6a6f37) — 7/24/2013 @ 2:56 pm

    Weiner was communicating with these women/underage minors via social media where he was exposing (pun intended) his own face and name.
    How can you therefore compare it to an act such as embezzlement, which generally does not involve a second or third or fourth party in order to facillitate it ?

    Yes, there is that difference. The women have to keep quiet.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  113. Sammy, do you have any theories about who murdered President McKinley ?

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  114. Clinton and Gore had tgghe same kind of fundraising trouble.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  115. I still don’t get why President Harding was hanging out at the ice skating rink.

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  116. Comment by Elephant Stone (6a6f37) — 7/24/2013 @ 3:30 pm

    Sammy, do you have any theories about who murdered President McKinley ?

    Leon Frank Czolgosz.

    Both Presidents Garfield and McKinley could have survived if they had better medical treatment. Some say it was beyond the medical doctors of the time.

    William McKinley: Post-Shooting Medical Course

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  117. Lana Turner’s teenage daughter was believed to have killed Johnny Stompanato, but I’m pretty sure she had nothing to do with President Harding’s death.

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  118. On the other hand, Lana Turner’s teenage daughter did enjoy ice skating.
    Aargh, all this conspiracy stuff is difficult to keep a chronology of !

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  119. It;s President Zachary Taylor who may have been killed by somebody deliberately giving him cholera, at a time when only a few people really understood how it was spread. I always wondered what was the basis of blaming arsenic – could there be some historical record that indicated he was killed, and somebody threw people off the track by bringing up this idea of arsenic.

    Zachary Taylor would have vetoed the Compromise of 1850.

    It was a real blow to the Whigs and a victory for the southern pro-slavery extremists.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  120. Comment by nk (875f57) — 7/24/2013 @ 3:23 pm

    I was reading between the lines, “rough time in our marriage”. How do you translate it?

    It’s like what Jack Benny said about radio – every person is supposed to use their own imagination.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  121. Lana Turner’s daughter did kill Johnny Stomapanato. It was ruled justifiable homicide (defense of her mother). And I just got a feeling of deja vu. I’ve discussed this case before, here. I’ve been here too long.

    nk (875f57)

  122. JFK didn’t tell lies about Jackie.

    Comment by Sammy Finkelman

    Comment by Dianna (b7aa4f) — 7/24/2013 @ 2:00 pm

    Because he wasn’t remotely interested in her. Seriously, I don’t think he thought of her from one day’s end to the next.

    If he wasn’t remotely interest in her he never would have married her. He had choices.

    She was a woman he was interested in, but she had the advantage over others in that she was Catholic (not too many of his girlfriends were) and a virgin in 1953. So she became his wife.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  123. ==Serial sexter Anthony Weiner begged supporters to hang with him, telling them today “a rough time” in his marriage prompted him to keep sending sexually explicit words and pictures to women he’s never met.==

    DRJ- He’s a genius I tell ya. Hubby sending photos of his junk and having phone sex with strange women is absolutely the time honored way to prove to a wife that you love her and value the relationship while striving to get through a “rough patch” in your marriage.

    elissa (238764)

  124. Sammy,

    You don’t believe that Mae West gave poison to President Taylor, do you ?
    I find it interesting that Liz Taylor was once married to Senator Warner of VA, but he was not related to any of the Warner Brothers in Hollywood, although Jack Warner was once overheard saying that he thought Liz was kind of hot.

    But I’d still like to know why President Harding was hanging around the ice skating rink ! I’d have thought President Coolidge was more of an ice skating kind of guy, being from Vermont and all.

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  125. Some women like bad boys.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  126. Painted Jaguar: Tonya Harding learned to ice skate from her grandfather President Harding even though Liz Taylor voted for Coolidge?

    No one tells me anything.

    Painted Jaguar (a sockpuppet) (f9371b)

  127. Huma missed a golden oppo. In the photo nk likes she’s wearing fashionable neutral pointy toe pumps. If the girl had any sense of humor she’d have worn peep toe “f me” shoes today for the public, her randy hubby, and especially for the photographers.

    elissa (238764)

  128. 64. 76. 80.

    Comment by Patricia (be0117) — 7/24/2013 @ 1:44 p

    Sammy, that’s great, but it’s only one city that’s dealing with the problem.

    They are trying to stop it now. They are waiting for the day Michael Bloomberg is no longer mayor and they can’t even seem to wait until then to get rid of the police commissioner, so they are trying to kick him upstairs to become Secretary of Homeland Security.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  129. SOOPER SEKRIT ASSASSINATION CONSPIRACY THEORIES ARE TEH FREAKIN AWESOME

    JD (b63a52)

  130. Tonya Harding if she had been a descendant of President Harding, would have been at least a great granddaughter – and that would be stretching it.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  131. If he wasn’t remotely interest in her he never would have married her. He had choices.

    She was a woman he was interested in, but she had the advantage over others in that she was Catholic (not too many of his girlfriends were) and a virgin in 1953. So she became his wife.

    Uh,….Sammy. Missed one important thing. Her family was old established money. She also gave him “class” and a veneer of social standing unlike if he had married actress Gene Tierney or one of his typical girl friends. Marrying Jackie contained a political element, obviously, as well. She also had 3 children to him, so obviously he was interested in her to some extent.

    But AGAIN…NO ONE….has ever questioned Jackie’s orientation. Since apparently you do not have any direct evidence that she was not straight the larger point has proven to be the correct one.

    If the question has to even be asked….it’s probably true. And no one would’ve even thought to ask about Jackie’s orientation any more than they would’ve about Pat Nixon’s or Roslyn Carter’s. It was just a given that they were straight.

    Duh.

    Kenneth Simmons (6f8eca)

  132. Raymond Kelly’s Wall Street Journal op-ed Tuesday about stop and frisk and supposed spying on Moslems:

    Ray Kelly: The NYPD: Guilty of Saving 7,383 Lives Accusations of racial profiling ignore the fact that violent crime overwhelmingly occurs in minority neighborhoods.

    In the 11 years before Mayor Michael Bloomberg took office, there were 13,212 murders in New York City. During the 11 years of his administration, there have been 5,849. That’s 7,383 lives saved—and if history is a guide, they are largely the lives of young men of color.

    So far this year, murders are down 29% from the 50-year low achieved in 2012, and we’ve seen the fewest shootings in two decades.

    To critics, none of this seems to much matter. Sidestepping the fact that these policies work, they continue to allege that massive numbers of minorities are stopped and questioned by police for no reason other than their race.

    Never mind that in each of the city’s 76 police precincts, the race of those stopped highly correlates to descriptions provided by victims or witnesses to crimes. Or that in a city of 8.5 million people, protected by 19,600 officers on patrol (out of a total uniformed staff of 35,000), the average number of stops we conduct is less than one per officer per week

    The only thing wrong here is that his statistics ignore the fact that crime was on a downward spiral already when he came in the second time, so the number of lives save dis exaggerated.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  133. Sammy, “The X-Files” was cancelled a number of years ago.

    – Sammy knows, the truth IS out there!

    Really, really, way, way far ‘out there’.

    Icy (d41128)

  134. She was a woman he was interested in, but she had the advantage over others in that she was Catholic (not too many of his girlfriends were) and a virgin in 1953.

    Not according to Edward Klein’s biography of Ms. Onassis, who claims that she lost her virginity in a Paris elevator to an older man.

    JVW (23867e)

  135. Serial sexter Anthony Weiner begged supporters to hang with him, telling them today “a rough time” in his marriage prompted him to keep sending sexually explicit words and pictures to women he’s never met.

    – Could it possibly be that the ‘rough time’ itself was “prompted” by the previous incidents where he sent sexually explicit words and pictures to women he’d never met?

    Icy (d41128)

  136. Sammy– Here’s something else for your data bank. Caroline Kennedy is being named Ambassador to Japan.

    elissa (238764)

  137. Comment by elissa (238764) — 7/24/2013 @ 4:22 pm

    Here’s something else for your data bank. Caroline Kennedy is being named Ambassador to Japan.

    I read that something like that could happena few days ago.

    Japan likes to have the impression that the U.S. Ambassador to Japan is a much more important person in the United States than he is.

    They’ve had former Senate Majority Leader Mike Mansfield, who retired after the 1976 election (June 10, 1977 to December 22, 1988) former Vice President of the United States (and major party presidential nominee) Walter Mondale (September 21, 1993 to December 15, 1996) former House Speaker Tom Foley (November 19, 1997 to April 1, 2001) and former Watergate Committee member and Senate Majority Leader and White House Chief of Staff Howard Baker July 5, 2001 to February 17, 2005)

    Caroline Kennedy fits right in there.

    Had she been more familiar with political issues, she might have been picked by then New York’s Governor David Paterson as U. S. Senator.

    Instead he picked Kirsten Gillibrand, who was being pushed by Senator Charles Schumer.

    Sammy Finkelman (be6791)

  138. Not according to Edward Klein’s biography of Ms. Onassis, who claims that she lost her virginity in a Paris elevator to an older man.

    Some men like bad girls.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  139. That story about Jackie reminds me of Weiner. They sound like people who want to live a little dangerously but they have a few limits.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  140. Comment by JVW (23867e) — 7/24/2013 @ 4:19 pm

    Not according to Edward Klein’s biography of Ms. Onassis, who claims that she lost her virginity in a Paris elevator to an older man.

    I really wasn’t sure about that.

    It seems to date back to a 1996 book (after she was dead)

    The man was John Phillips Marquand, a myster writer born in 1893, some 36 years older than her. (JFK was only 12 years older than her)

    Sammy Finkelman (be6791)

  141. She had been seeing him for some time – the source is the man’s son, but Gore Vidal also told the same story in a 1995 book without using his name. Then she met JFK.

    Sammy Finkelman (be6791)

  142. Jacqueline Kennedy was in any case a virgin for many years.

    Sammy Finkelman (be6791)

  143. just waggin’ teh dog
    ain’t Ozzie and Harriet
    Dems are without SHAME

    Colonel Haiku (f22a30)

  144. abedin sheds tear
    one more skidmarked pair o’tights
    her caped crusader

    Colonel Haiku (f22a30)

  145. weiner sez he’s in
    he won’t be pulling out soon
    would be premature

    HUMALIATION!

    Colonel Haiku (f22a30)

  146. Carlos Dangler unzips his trousers and grabs his sky full of tomorrows…

    Colonel Haiku (f22a30)

  147. Not according to Edward Klein’s biography of Ms. Onassis, who claims that she lost her virginity in a Paris elevator to an older man. [Thirty-six years older at that.]

    That seems wrong on … wait for it … so many levels.

    nk (875f57)

  148. Trawling territory that her relative Gore Vidal, had first put forth, it’s a very dubious assertion,

    narciso (3fec35)

  149. someone always gets teh shaft, nk…

    Colonel haiku (f22a30)

  150. OMG! Could someone PLEASE put Sammy into moderation and unmoderate one of the trolls? They are easier to take than Spammy’s endless walls of copy/paste text and his endless paranoid fantasies. I swear that I am not going to continue coming to this site if he keeps it up!

    peedoffamerican (ee1de0)

  151. The truth is the rest of the slate of candidates, although personally not slimy, are clueless in terms of practical policies, like Quinn on Stop and Frisk, or Thompson on practically everything, as pathetic as Bloomberg is, he was running against lizards like Mark Green and other such characters,

    narciso (3fec35)

  152. sooolongfarwell

    EPWJ (c3dbb4)

  153. Colonel, they are looking for you!

    Japan: Hunt on for serial killer who left a haiku clue.

    peedoffamerican (ee1de0)

  154. Well, Gennifer Flowers wasn’t the first and only person that Bill Clinton would want believing that.

    She asked him because she’d heard it. Not because it was true, but because it was a rumor that Bill Clinton had created and helped spread. That’s what I’d assume.

    Sammy, why you think all the rumors of Hillary’s homosexuality are based on a fabrication dreamed up by Bill is beyond me. The assumption that innuendo and gossip about her same-sex behavior stems from a “vast rightwing conspiracy” would make more sense.

    Hillary’s probable gayness is relevant to this topic since her peculiar relationship with Bill can be seen as an example of why the relationship between the likely bisexual Huma and her freaky husband also is so peculiar.

    Mark (12f15d)

  155. “probable gayness?”

    EPWJ (c3dbb4)

  156. re: #154… I got an alibi, peedoff!

    Colonel Haiku (969fb3)

  157. … lotta speculation here that (though interesting) isn’t verifiable… at least not yet.

    The bottom line for me is: New York voters should understand that this little perv would undertake his mayoral duties with the same dedication and fidelity he gives his wife.

    I believe the New York slang for this is “bupkis”.

    A_Nonny_Mouse (57cacf)

  158. Make-up and soft focus works wonders, nk. Get a grip, my man… oh, wait…

    Colonel Haiku (5f241d)

  159. You are very wise, old Japanese poet.

    nk (875f57)

  160. DRJ nails it early in these comments (#19 — 7/24/2013 @ 8:04 am):

    The Weiners are counting on Americans deciding that morality is for the 1950′s, not for today’s world.

    And one can extend that to many of their Democratic partisans.

    They are quite literally “shameless” — incapable of perceiving it. When serious adults around them are discussing these subjects, it turns into Charlie Brown/Peanuts teacher-and-grownup sounds: “WAHH-wah wah, wa-WAH-wahh wah-wah-wah.”

    What is it about modern American political life — especially in, but by no means limited to, the Democratic Party and its politicians — that seems to be actively selecting for such people?

    What amazes some thinking grownups about this whole story is how utterly and obviously inevitable it seemed when Weiner resigned from office that a man with his sort of compulsions and his clot of enablers would again run for public office as a Democrat.

    But that’s not what amazes me. What amazes me is how utterly and obviously inevitable it already seemed to me back then that, indeed, the Democratic Party would welcome him back — and indeed rally to his and his wife’s defense again when the new indiscretions were exposed.

    When the country has a combination rock star/Hamlet novelty act as POTUS, the undercard has to be pretty outrageous to get any oxygen. Congrats to Tony and Huma for that success, anyway, and for slightly and temporarily diluting the acid bath in which he’s marinating his administration’s credibility.

    Beldar (7626b1)

  161. At least Andrew McCarthy will bring up Huma’s shady payoffs and associations linked to Al Queda/Muslim Brotherhood.

    As mentioned, its astonishing that someone so closely associated with terrorist sponsoring groups could even get a security clearance in the State department … much less not get deported.

    SPQR (768505)

  162. Let me help you, nk. You and the Colonel can come up with a good title for this image:

    http://cdn.abclocal.go.com/images/wpvi/cms_exf_2007/news/politics/060911_IMAGE_rep_weiner_huma_abedin_AP_2.jpg

    Simon Jester (8e7eff)

  163. 163. At least Andrew McCarthy will bring up Huma’s shady payoffs and associations linked to Al Queda/Muslim Brotherhood.

    As mentioned, its astonishing that someone so closely associated with terrorist sponsoring groups could even get a security clearance in the State department … much less not get deported.

    Comment by SPQR (768505) — 7/24/2013 @ 10:11 pm

    The Obama administration has to be simply running roughshod over the clearance process. There’s just no way Abedin could have gotten a clearance without the President, really, dictating that she gets one. Not with her family ties to the Muslim Brotherhood and terrorist front groups. Not to mention her own personal involvement.

    But even without her personal involvement the MB is quite vocal about how it gets more done through its “friends” who aren’t official members of the MB then it gets done on its own. What with the MB often being outlawed (just look at the MB’s former and what increasingly appears to be its future illegal status in Egypt).

    Getting somebody who isn’t officially MB but sympathetic to and supportive of the organization inside the circles of political power is their freakin’ M.O. Has been for years.

    It’s unbelievable how the Obama administration feigns outrage that anyone could question Abedin as they openly embrace the MB’s typical ruse.

    Steve57 (2dd692)

  164. 72. Comment by crazy (d60cb0) — 7/24/2013 @ 11:51 am

    The press conference was at some kind of gay men’s health center. That seems like an odd location for this kind of announcement, doesn’t it?

    It seems like that was where he was scheduled to be anyway at that hour, meaning the press conference was a late addition to his schedule. The New York Times report yesterday, in fact, said this press conference was “hastily arranged.”

    Anthony Weiner didn’t respond initially to reporters asking questions for about six hours or so – then he issued a statement saying that he had said there would be some more stories coming out. Of course everybody assumed that meant from before he resigned from Congress in June, 2011. Weiner really did not expect this to get out – he was not prepared for it. Then later he held this press conference.

    There was a mayoral forum that night on AIDS and HIV at the Gay Men’s Health Crisis, [doesn't this sound like something out of the 1980s or early 1990s?. Old issues never die.] and that’s where he held his press conference.

    At the forum his opening remarks were applauded, but he didn’t get such a good reception at the mayoral forum the next day, somewhere else.

    Sammy Finkelman (be6791)

  165. 165. Comment by Steve57 (2dd692) — 7/24/2013 @ 10:37 pm

    The Obama administration has to be simply running roughshod over the clearance process.

    Who knows what the clearance process marks as badm, anyway? BUT THIS

    Sammy Finkelman (be6791)

  166. WAS A POLITICAL APPOINTMENT, and you don’t need someone disaualified by rules to avoid anyone.

    And what about the Clinton Administration? Andrew McCarthy writes that Huma Abedin worked at the Journal of Muslim Minority Affairs (JMMA) for at least seven years (1996–2003), all the time she was also working for Hillary Clinton in various capacities, and that that journal promoted Islamic-supremacist ideology and was founded by
    a top Al Qaeda fiancier, Abdullah Omar Naseef, who also ran the Rabita Trust, which is a formally designated foreign terrorist organization and he was still there (they ooverlapped) ad at the Journal of Muslim Minority Affairs (JMMA) when Huma Abedin started working there.

    Huma Abedin’s father ran the JMMA in Saudi Arabia, and when he died, her mother took over.
    It was under the World Assembly of Muslim Youth, which Andrew McCarthy describes as virulently anti-Semitic and sharia-supremacist.

    Huma Abedins mother, Saleha Abedin, among other things, directs the International Islamic Committee for Woman and Child, which is part of the International Islamic Council for Dawa and Relief), which in turn is part of the Union for Good (or Union of Good), which is a formally designated terrorist organization led by Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, who is a Muslim Brotherhood jurist who issued fatwas calling for the killing of American military and support personnel in Iraq as well as suicide bombings in Israel. The Obama White House recently hosted Qaradawi’s principal deputy, Sheikh Abdulla bin Bayyah.

    And there’s more. . .At George Washington University Huma Abedin belonged to the Muslim Students Association, whose spiritual guide later on became Anwar al-Awlaki.

    So she’s really connected.

    And so is, or was, Bill Clinton.

    Sammy Finkelman (be6791)

  167. I just cannot see the the Islamist angle in careerist goals for either Weiner or Huma.

    nk (875f57)

  168. Well it’s like the Ware group that Hiss was part of, in the 30s the FDR administration was looking for outreach to the left, it’s not really that surprising,

    narciso (3fec35)

  169. Mr Finkelman wrote, well above:

    He’s not a predator, but he is someone who has no feelings for what he is doing to women who communicate with him.

    I wouldn’t put it that way. Unless the women are offended by or don’t want the sexts, they are playing with him in the same manner he is playing with them, online fantasy junk.

    The problem for the little Weiner is that these continuing sexts indicate a compulsion problem; this is something he can’t bring himself to stop doing, even though it has to hurt his wife, even though it has cost him a great job, and even though, now, it may well cost him an election. Even though I’ve said that he’s just plain stupid, I don’t really think that he is; he knew the danger of exposure all along, and still couldn’t help himself. A compulsion that strong is a form of mental illness.

    The realistic Dana (3e4784)

  170. Absolutely. A paraphilia.

    nk (875f57)

  171. and that that journal promoted Islamic-supremacist ideology and was founded by a top Al Qaeda fiancier, Abdullah Omar Naseef,

    The left were useful idiots to ruthless, conniving Iron-Curtain Communists in decades gone by, and the left are useful idiots to ruthless, conniving Islamo-fascist Muslims today.

    History has a way of repeating itself.

    Mark (12f15d)

  172. even though it has to hurt his wife,

    If by “hurt” you mean the emotions of a typical wife/woman (certainly a totally straight/hetero one) who feels pangs of betrayal and jealousy, I think you’re showing a bit of naivete about Huma. However, if by “hurt” you mean this current flap is but an inconvenience and nuisance to her, then, yea, she’s hurt.

    Mark (12f15d)

  173. “typical wife”? is that like “typical white person”?

    elissa (efbe0d)

  174. Mark, at the very least she had to be embarrassed by having to stand up on the podium with the little Weiner, and play the “good wife.”

    The married Dana (3e4784)

  175. Nk, I had no idea that the Big Bopper looks a bit like Glenn Beck!

    Simon Jester (8e7eff)

  176. Huma expressed shock and disbelief at what Weiner’s actions did to their lives. That sounds like what someone who has been hurt would say.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  177. That was not the impression she gave at the press conference, he was caught doing the same thing,

    narciso (3fec35)

  178. Yes, I agree married Dana. Being humiliated or being made a fool of publicly is something no person likes under any circumstances.

    elissa (efbe0d)

  179. Well, if it’s true (as Weiner has reportedly said) that Huma has known about Weiner’s online behavior for a long time, maybe years, then I agree she hasn’t been hurt by these revelations. But it’s hard to know what happened when you’re dealing with someone who lies as easily as Weiner does.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  180. What’s amazing is that some Democrats, even some women, are supporting Weiner and his wife –as if this is a normal family facing a challenge instead of a dysfunctional family dealing with problems of their own makin.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  181. And I totally agree that Huma is pathetic for continuing to support Weiner and his candidacy.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  182. “typical wife”? is that like “typical white person”?

    Yes, if “typical white person” refers to a very liberal, very political, very tactical, very Hillary-admiring, very dependent-on-Hillary, very likely bisexual individual.

    Mark (12f15d)

  183. How many distinct bisexual-politico fantasies does Mark have? I applaud his openness, and his open-mindedness.

    Leviticus (2c236c)

  184. Leviticus, your comment reminds me of the reaction I observed in very liberal person I was speaking with several months ago. A guy who mouths all the do-gooder, tolerance-for-tolerance’s-sake emotions of the left. When I mentioned to him that Obama probably was bisexual, a look of dismay or discomfort flashed across his face. The conversation moved in another direction.

    File that under “Alec-Baldwin Liberalism.”

    Mark (12f15d)

  185. Do you mean the rumors about Hillary and Huma? Or about Obama?

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  186. My last comment was for Leviticus, but never mind.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  187. The gay accusations are kinda beside the point. I think the point that Mark has tried to make is how gay-friendly the Left claims to be, yet how often they use gay slurs against folks they don’t like. Which is an interesting thing to consider.

    The sad part about Weiner-Huma is how clearly this is power -based. But why should we be surprised? Huma’s mentor wrote the book on that kind of dishonesty.

    Simon Jester (8e7eff)

  188. This observation struck me as interesting and likely one more revealing aspect of the people involved:

    twitchy.com:

    Joseph Curl @josephcurl

    In re-watching the Weiner presser, another thing is glaring: Why on earth is Huma smiling?! ‘Anthony’s made some horrible mistakes [smile].’

    Mark (12f15d)

  189. I thought we agreed that Mark mostly watches the world go bi, Leviticus. No offense, Mark. ;)

    nk (875f57)

  190. Describing almost anything as “Typical” kind smacks of gross generalization or a preconceived notion on the part of the speaker/writer that others may not share. That was the point I hoped to make.

    typical ball player
    typical rottweiler
    typical conservative
    typical lawyer
    typical day
    typical wife
    typical white person

    like that

    elissa (efbe0d)

  191. The gay accusations are kinda beside the point.

    I’ve been pointing out all the talk-on-the-grapevine — which dates back several years — to explain what we’re dealing with here. IOW, why people like Huma (not to mention Hillary too) behave the way they do. Why what appears to be peculiar or ridiculous responses in public figures (acting like a “doormat” to a Bill or Anthony), as observed by one set of people (eg, a good portion of the public), is merely business-as-usual to another set of people (eg, couples into swinging would think most everyone else is old-fashioned and prudish).

    Mark (12f15d)

  192. Why on earth is Huma smiling ?!

    Probably for this sort of reason:

    http://ezinearticles.com/?A-Smile-Goes-a-Long-Way-in-Public-Speaking&id=7388273

    The problem here is that she didn’t have good director, who would tell her that was wrong for the scene.

    Sammy Finkelman (be6791)

  193. Describing almost anything as “Typical”

    If you like, replace “typical” with “a large percentage of” or “a fairly large number of.”

    Emotions behind modern-day political correctness (run amok—including in no less than the US military) drives the world today.

    Mark (12f15d)

  194. Well, I won’t address this business of Mark’s, but what I will repeat is that it is very, very interesting to hear the Left claim to be tolerant, yet use bigoted language (and language they normally abhor) against opponents.

    Why, it makes me wonder precisely how tolerant they really are (snicker)?

    Simon Jester (8e7eff)

  195. In Weiner’s half-defense – because I agree he was attempting to emphasize nobility of his wife and imply he had an actual crisis of conscience, instead of being flat busted caught – he does concede with this statement

    “people starting coming out of the woodwork. I got a call from Chris Cuomo saying that they had someone who was going to say that I texted with her

    that his hand was forced.

    One of the uglier aspects of Noble Weiner and Noble Huma is the attempt by both to portray this as something bad that “happened to” them. As if external forces are responsible for his reckless, shabby, conduct unworthy of a man in his position, but that real conscience was somehow the driver of truth-telling and not the deeply resented situation of being caught.

    Sarahw (b0e533)

  196. The nasty part for Huma (who would be better off dating nk, methinks) is how she sat for interviews while claiming all of “that” was behind them…while it was going on. And she knew it.

    Power.

    Just a reminder, because folks forget about this. Hilary Clinton invented the term “vast Right wing conspiracy.” And it was over reports of Bill’s infidelities. Which she knew about, denied, and stonewalled.

    Yet she is a hero.

    It would have been better for HRC had she divorced the man.

    Simon Jester (8e7eff)

  197. I’m sure Huma expected nothing but a sky full of tomorrows and upward mobility in her match with Weiner, and that it was very disappointing to have his star crash to earth so abruptly, and because he is a jerk with no sense.

    That she is willing to not only put up with and lie about his conduct so she can get back some of what she lost is probably regrettable human nature. But real nobility would be recognizing he’s not cut out to lead others and the folly of hoping her trust should dictate the public trust.

    Sarahw (b0e533)

  198. Seriously, Sarahw, just look at AW. He looks like an angry perv. How could she have missed that?

    Simon Jester (8e7eff)

  199. I77. 172. 173

    I wrote

    “He’s not a predator, but he is someone who has no feelings for what he is doing to women who communicate with him.”

    Comment by The realistic Dana (3e4784) — 7/25/2013 @ 5:03 am

    I wouldn’t put it that way. Unless the women are offended by or don’t want the sexts, they are playing with him in the same manner he is playing with them, online fantasy junk.

    What I meant was he got them to the point where they were asking for and he was promising them offline real world encounters again and again, and never delivering, plus also getting them to fall in love with him.

    Sammy Finkelman (be6791)

  200. So this kind of makes sense:

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/07/25/source-huma-abedin-considered-leaving-weiner-last-fall/

    Except, given his behavior, why let your sick husband back out into the public eye?

    I still think that this all cold calculation about political power, that she learned from her mentor.

    Simon Jester (8e7eff)

  201. 172. Comment by The realistic Dana (3e4784) — 7/25/2013 @ 5:03 am

    … these continuing sexts indicate a compulsion problem; this is something he can’t bring himself to stop doing…Even though I’ve said that he’s just plain stupid, I don’t really think that he is; he knew the danger of exposure all along, and still couldn’t help himself.

    173. Comment by nk (875f57) — 7/25/2013 @ 5:11 am

    Absolutely. A paraphilia.

    It’s beginning to look like that.

    I didn’t say that before because these texts seemed to go on a long time without any claims of ejaculation, so that didn’t look like the purpose of it, but rather it looked more like he wanted to keep seducing women, knew he couldn’t dare but went as close as he could. But now he did it again at a time when he knew it would be very risky to his plans to do so, and Nik Richie of TheDirty.com told the New York Post that Sydney Leathers told him he also did phone sex, but he went to orgasm in 30 seconds.

    Now it may be that it is only the fantasizing (or some element included in the fantasizing) that is the paraphilia, and the pictures are just his stupid idea of how to get women to play along.

    Sammy Finkelman (be6791)

  202. Comment by Simon Jester (8e7eff) — 7/25/2013 @ 8:21 am

    She is very blameable for not noticing he was a jerk with no sense. I agree it should have been obvious.

    That Sydney person also seemed surprised that he turned out to be jerk with no sense, even though she knew all about what he did and declared it AOK with her. She decided.

    Sarahw (b0e533)

  203. It’s more than paraphilia, it’s a pathology of personality. His extreme self-centeredness takes many forms and that is just one.

    Sarahw (b0e533)

  204. Mr Jester wrote:

    The gay accusations are kinda beside the point. I think the point that Mark has tried to make is how gay-friendly the Left claims to be, yet how often they use gay slurs against folks they don’t like. Which is an interesting thing to consider.

    Absotively, posilutely!

    The agreeable Dana (3e4784)

  205. Weiner is the primest of primes for blackmail potential. For that reason alone, he’s disqualified himself from holding public office.

    I don’t see this. The threat of blackmail would require him to feel bad, embarrassed, ashamed, or remorse.

    JD (54c5d8)

  206. I didn’t say that before because these texts seemed to go on a long time without any claims of ejaculation,

    OMG did you really go there?!

    JD (54c5d8)

  207. ‘goggles do nothing’

    narciso (3fec35)

  208. Comment by JD (54c5d8) — 7/25/2013 @ 9:45 am

    The threat of blackmail would require him to feel bad, embarrassed, ashamed, or remorse.

    Or feel potential political danger.

    Especially the prospect of losing an election, or not winning an election or even losing his current job.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  209. June 6, 2011: In the middle of all his other words, Weiner indicates this is paraphilia, or soemthing:

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/full_transcript_of_weiner_news_conference_JxlqpgCFcbffrWKKcwsyLL#ixzz2a5VWbmRm

    — this is a weakness, a deep weakness, that I have demonstrated, and for that I apologize.

    There are variations in Weiner’s tone of voice, and by the end of his opening statement, he nearly cries.

    Read more: Full transcript of Weiner’s news conference – NYPOST.com

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  210. You know this whole thing looks like Meagan Broussard all over again – and Meagan Broussard didn’t really decide to go public on her own.

    Yes we have a web site, we have a woman coming forward thinking she can remain anonymous, but we don’t have the back story of what forced this out.

    This looks a great deal like Operation Weiner Schnitzel, Part II, and I don’t know you can’t say that “Dan Wolfe” “John Reed” and the whole (hired by pro-John Liu people from China?) gang are not involved.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  211. 183. Comment by DRJ (a83b8b) — 7/25/2013 @ 7:18 am

    Well, if it’s true (as Weiner has reportedly said) that Huma has known about Weiner’s online behavior for a long time, maybe years,

    It’s on tape.

    Representative Anthony Weiner Press Conference (June 6, 2011) (Part 1, of 2) as broadcast on CNN:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yv16RtcHpsQ

    At 10:30 in this 15:00 You Tube video. (The question is before the 10:30 mark)

    Q: When did you tell your wife? When did you tell your wife?

    REP. WEINER: My wife has known about some of these online relationships since before we were married. And we spoke frankly about them because — well, we spoke frankly about them. But she didn’t know until this morning that I had not been telling the truth about whether I posted the Twitter posting last week.

    The full transcript of Weiner’s June 6, 2011 news conference is at: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/full_transcript_of_weiner_news_conference_JxlqpgCFcbffrWKKcwsyLL#ixzz2a5eaqbKF

    He also said in his statement:

    I have engaged in several inappropriate conversations conducted over Twitter, Facebook, email and occasionally on the phone with women I had met online. I’ve exchanged messages and photos of an explicit nature with about six women over the last three years.

    That sounds like it could be true. The three years, I mean, not the six women. Only 3 years, because before 2008, he wasn’t on Facebook. the things he could do before 2008 – that might be a deep rooted problem.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  212. In 2011, he has to deny his wife was ignorant of the whole thing in general because he maybe hasn’t worked out a story with her, or she’s known to have told some other people, and he doesn’t know if that could be found out.

    But in 2013, Huma speaks to Jonathan Van Meter of the New Yorkk Tuimes for that magazine article, and is quoted as saying:


    Here was a man I respected, I loved, was the father of this child inside of me, and he was asking me for a second chance. And I’m not going to say that was an easy or fast decision that I made. It’s been almost two years now. I did spend a lot of time saying and thinking: ‘I. Don’t. Understand.’

    Don’t understand what? She knew about this thing. They discussed it. She tells the New York Times:

    I’ve never been on Twitter [Note - much of this took place on Facebook] I couldn’t tell you the first thing about how it works. And Anthony had told me in the past that there were these sort of trolls on the Internet who were trying to damage him, take him down. And so, that’s the mind-set I came with to this conversation….Anthony was Anthony. Confident! Determined! Defensive! I was right there with him: ‘Let’s fight! Defend! I don’t understand. Why don’t you just say this is not your picture? I was with him. One hundred percent.

    It could be lied to her about this being his actual picture, rather than a imitation of something he had done previously.

    Now Anthony Weiner knew it was the exact same picture he had taken. What he probably didn’t understand is how it had gotten out there.

    And ignore his confession because he wasn’t careful about the truth.

    And I think he had no idea how, on a technical level, this happened. (a possibility is that Yfrog bug demonstrated in 2011, where uploading a picture while not logged in, reesulted in a tweet)

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  213. Huma Abeedin probably knew about the general fact that Anthony Weiner had taken such pictures of himself, because she had probably herself been a target of them!!

    Anthony Weiner had been trying to get together with her since 2001, according to this article, which may have to acknowledge facts kniown by others, and didn’t begin to succeed until 2007 or 2008. Why shouldn’t he used the same strategy that he used on other women?

    he was asking me for a second chance

    This would have been a third chance, the second chance occuring when they got married.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  214. Now Weiner is saying 10 women (6-10) 3 since he left Congress.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/26/nyregion/weiner-admits-more-online-exchanges-with-women-after-quitting-house.html?hp

    He must be implying an additional one before he left Congress.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  215. Weiner drops 9 points in poll for Democratic primary for Mayor:

    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/07/12/nyregion/mayoral-polls.html

    From 25% in the previous WSJ/NBC N.Y./Marist poll to 16%. Chrsitine Quinn went from 20% to 25%.

    William C. Thompson Jr. is third, going from 13% to 14%.

    Bill De Blasio went from 10% to 14%

    John Liu wewnt from 8% to 7%.

    Sal Albanese is polling at a conmsistent 1%. I wonder if his name has to be volunteered.

    Erick J Salgado (who;s he?) is showing up at 2% but missing in more polls than Sal Albanese.

    Don’t Know went from 18% to 19%.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  216. Weiner 30% favorable opinion, 55% unfavorable, 15% haven’t heard enough (or undecided, mixed)

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  217. Monica Lewinsky was 40 years old on Tuesday, TIME Magazine reminds us. Best of the Web notes Shirley Temple is 85.

    (Mae West would be rapidly approaching her 120th birthday. If anybody her age is still alive, nobody knows it.)

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  218. There is actually other New York election and related news this week.

    The anti-police legislation, with Mayor Bloomberg trung to prevent an override of his vetoes, anmd Chrstine Quin n plotting strategy – and assorted arguments and columns about crime.

    The sleepover at a project arranged by Al Sharpton, after which a woman got klled by another woman she’s been feuding with.

    A week ago Tuesday Christine Quinn calling the Police Commssioner and others to get an ambulance for a not quite emergency. Finally so,mebnody called Hatzolah

    Spitzer asked abouyt and denied seeing any prostitites since his scandal.

    MTA planned fare hikes far into the future.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  219. This looks a great deal like Operation Weiner Schnitzel, Part II, and I don’t know you can’t say that “Dan Wolfe” “John Reed” and the whole (hired by pro-John Liu people from China?) gang are not involved.

    W T F ?!?!?!

    JD (95b0f1)

  220. Can you explain crop circles for me, Sammy?

    JD (b63a52)

  221. Sammy, the Sydney person declared she was disgusted by him now and thought people should know.

    I have trouble comprehending how he could have disappointed her, as she thought he was ducks when he treated other women the same way… but her friends describe her as an attention hound. That’s enough to explain it. It probably is no more complicated than realizing the only way to leverage her brush with greatness was to expose it. Even if she didn’t mean to get tracked down (and I think she did) she would have gained consideration among her friends, who did know about it.

    Sarahw (b0e533)

  222. Leviticus, your comment reminds me of the reaction I observed in very liberal person I was speaking with several months ago. A guy who mouths all the do-gooder, tolerance-for-tolerance’s-sake emotions of the left. When I mentioned to him that Obama probably was bisexual, a look of dismay or discomfort flashed across his face. The conversation moved in another direction.

    File that under “Alec-Baldwin Liberalism.”

    Comment by Mark (12f15d)

    “if you like your old sexual orientation you can keep it…”

    - Barack “Giggity” 0bama

    Colonel Haiku (45a84e)

  223. Weiner and Spitzer are still doing well enough in their respective races that Silvio “Bunga Bunga” Berlusconi and Eric “The Man Tickler” Massa are thinking of throwing their, uhh, hats (yeah, hats!) into the ring.

    Bob Filner may even resign his office so he can run for NYC mayor.

    Apparently his act is wearing thin in San Diego.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMy0x6o3t4M#at=11

    Girls don’t giggle like that now that everyone’s figured out that’s just Bob wearing a disguise at SeaWorld.

    Steve57 (2dd692)

  224. 226. Comment by Sarahw (b0e533) — 7/25/2013 @ 3:28 pm

    Sammy, the Sydney person declared she was disgusted by him now and thought people should know.

    That’s maybe what she says now. But she broke upp with him in November (evidentally when she realized she was not going to become at least his mistress, he was not going to get her anything, and they were not ever going to get together in the same room) Anthony Weiner contacted her again in December one time and then in April when the New York Times Magazine story came out and asked her what she thought of it. (He doesn’t say what she replied but evidentaly she did not tell him not to run for mayor or threaten to go public)

    AW> I have trouble comprehending how he could have disappointed her, as she thought he was ducks when he treated other women the same way…

    She may not have realized that those other affairs never went anywhere – also she can think, this time it is different.

    AW> but her friends describe her as an attention hound. That’s enough to explain it.

    The Daily News reports that a friend of hers (3 years older) whose name it did not give and who has since had a falling out with Sydney Leathers said she told her last summer she was texting Weiner.

    She asked her if it was the Anthony Weiner and she said yes ,and she asked her “Doesn’t he have a wife?” and Sydney said “Oh, yeah.”

    Which the friend describes as brushing it off as if it were nothing.

    It probably is no more complicated than realizing the only way to leverage her brush with greatness was to expose it. Even if she didn’t mean to get tracked down (and I think she did) she would have gained consideration among her friends, who did know about it.

    How would it help if they already knew? You mean maybe they would learn?

    Anyway some friend said her goal was to become famous.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  225. This morning WINS radio reported that in the Daily News it said that she was heavily tattooed and a high school dropout. A half hour later WINS said high school graduate.

    The paper says she left school in the 11th grade, but that would not preclude getting a GED later.

    The daly news does say “heavily tattooed” but the pictures of her don’t show any tattooes so this is not exposed, so maybe bnow we are getting negative leaks about her.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  226. The Daily News quoted her mother, Laura Lethers, as saying:

    I have nothing to say except God help New York if he gets to be mayor. You can print that.

    WINS broadcast the first sentence.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  227. Meanwhile a “close friend” of Huma Abedin – WINS editorialized in a news report about what kind of a friend that would be – asaid that Huma nearly ended her marriage last fall. My guess is that somebody realized that Huma AAbedin was being toio supportive so they decided to make her a little bit more distant.

    This friend also said it was Abedin’s decision to make her own statement at the Tuesday press conference when she said “I love him. I have forgiven him. I believe in him.”

    Of course – all the words entirely her own idea. No consultants. It’s actually almost verbatim in an essay submitted earlier to Harper’s Bazaar.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  228. I’m sure there are Republican wives who “stand by their men” like Huma and Hillary, but are there any famous Democratic wives like Jenny Sanford who divorced over infidelity? The only one I can think of is Cuomo-Kennedy, only it was arguably the politician-husband who left over infidelity and I’m not sure that was well-known. Frankly, infidelity doesn’t seem as important to Democrats as it is to Republicans — either because it isn’t important to their supporters or because repeated Democratic scandals have desensitized their supporters not to care.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  229. elizabeth edwards

    elissa (6f2038)

  230. Teddy & Joan Kennedy

    Colonel Haiku (d91f63)

  231. Not that EE is a role model. She was brutally ambitious and covered for Johnny–lied for him at a critical time during his last campaign. But she did divorce his ass.

    elissa (6f2038)

  232. Elizabeth Edwards is a good example, elissa, thank you. Joan Kennedy may be, too, but she stayed with him so long that it’s harder for me to see.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  233. I should turn on the TV, sometime. I had no clue what Cuomo-Kennedy was. And I didn’t know Robert and Ethel had eleven kids. They were Irish.

    nk (875f57)

  234. nk, if they had been Greek, they probably would have had eleven credit cards.
    :)

    Elephant Stone (3121fe)

  235. Sammy still did not explain to my satisfaction why Tonya Harding was upset at Chester Arthur.

    Elephant Stone (3121fe)

  236. He was not natural born or something, ducks,

    narciso (3fec35)

  237. Joan Kennedy may be, too, but she stayed with him so long that it’s harder for me to see.

    Comment by DRJ (a83b8b)

    Yes and the poor dear was drinking so much alcohol that it was hard for her to see, as well.

    Colonel Haiku (d91f63)

  238. narciso, oh yeah, that’s right, although his official bio says he was born in the US, Chester Arthur was rumored to have actually been born in Canada to Canadian parents.

    Well, at least we know that the late great comedic actress Jean Arthur was born in America…uh, Sammy, do you dispute that ?

    Elephant Stone (3121fe)

  239. Dave Weigel takes a good look at the Huma and decides that she has a fabulous PR team to go along with her fabulous style–but there’s really not much there there otherwise.

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2013/07/25/the_overrated_huma_abedin.html

    elissa (6f2038)

  240. Speaking of infidelity and (on another thread) Jimmy Stewart: Jimmy Stewart tells a joke.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  241. Bad link. Here it is.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  242. I’m sure there are Republican wives who “stand by their men”

    Speaking of which, and in this desensitized age of “TMI,” of a New York pol bragging about and flashing his genitals, of pro-GLBT galore…

    foxnews.com, July 25: Who knew Shirley Jones was such a wild woman? The 79-year-old “Partridge Family” mom has been making the rounds promoting her memoir “Shirley” talking about being in a threesome with her philandering first husband Jack Cassidy and shaking her assets for her current husband Marty Ingles! We talked to Jones about her weird and wild life and uncovered a few other facts that may not yet have seen the light of day…

    FOX411: First off, you’re a Republican, which can’t have been too popular in the 70’s in Hollywood.

    Shirley Jones: Well it still isn’t. It’s pretty bad here. They’re all Democrats here, but that doesn’t bother me.

    AP, July 22: But a substantial part of [Jones'] book is spent on her troubled marriage to the late Jack Cassidy, the glossily handsome actor and singer whom she describes in a passage as her first lover and “sexual Svengali,” and whose lessons she shares candidly.

    That includes — X-rated spoiler alert — Cassidy’s impressive endowment, Jones’ own “highly sexed” nature that made orgasms a breeze, their threesome with another woman (“yuck,” she says, when asked about the onetime experiment), Cassidy’s pre-marital sexual encounter with Cole Porter that Jones says left her unfazed, and her apparent tolerance for his infidelities.

    ^ If human nature can be as unhinged for someone like an apparent non-liberal in Hollywood, etc, one can only guess what things are like for the devout leftists. That’s why anyone who dismisses all the rumors about Hillary, Huma, Barack, etc, is naive beyond belief.

    Mark (938403)

  243. EE only divorced JE’s ass because she was dying, and wanted to secure a fortune to leave to her children which he could not spend on another family (the half-sibling especially), and which he could not demand any portion of after her death, as he could if he were a widower.

    Sarahw (b0e533)

  244. I don’t necessarily object to any women of any political persuasion putting up with roaming husbands, or other pecadillos of character; it only when the person with bad character seeks to govern others, and the other lies about it to create a false picture of his character or redemption of his character – without retreating from pursuit of power over others.

    Sarahw (b0e533)

  245. Here is part of a relatively early one: (I’d forgotten this about O.J. Simpson)

    Date: 06-24-94 (04:16) Number: 186 of 951
    To: ALL Refer#: NONE
    From: SAMMY FINKELMAN Read: (N/A)
    Subj: O.J. SIMPSON’S BACKGROUND Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
    Conf: SAMMY ZONE (9) Read Type: GENERAL (+)

    Well, it turns out that before O. J. Simpson became a big football star. . .

    . . .He was a gang leader in the projects.

    I read something like that. Robert Lipsyte had a Sports of the Times column on page 2 of Section 8 (the Sports Section) of the Sunday, June 19, 1994 New York Times and it he tells of meeting O.J. Simpson in June, 1969 in Bachelor’s Three, owned by Joe Namath. Part of it goes:

    « O.J. was so graceful, so ingratiating, that it was easy to forget how he got here, a ghetto gang leader, a high school, junior college, major college Alpha male who had learned to knock down anything in his way. He was a prince of jock entitlement. By 1969, everyone wanted a piece of
    him, and he could barter for money, flesh, the front row, his picture on the cover. »

    The boldface is from today.

    Also from the mnessage: I found these things too, more specific, about the early O.J.:

    « For a youngster growing up poor in a tough neighborhood, sports was one of the two routes to respect. By his account, Mr. Simpson was good
    at the other one, too.

    He once recalled: “I was always the leader ── the baddest cat there. You had to be. »

    - article by Robert McG. Thomas Jr. on page 11 of the Saturday, June 18, 1994 New York Times.

    There is also a quote which says this business about being a gang leader might have been a boast.

    « Simpson was then 16. He later suggested that he had been a member of the gang called the Superiors and that he was arrested for fighting.
    His childhood friends say the Superiors were closer to a fraternity. They remember the trouble as having involved some beer stolen for a
    party.

    In any event, Simpson spent the weekend in San Francisco’s juvenile hall. He soon might have fallen into more serious trouble had he not
    stopped by the youth program at the Booker T. Washington Community Center.

    The center’s director was a golfing buddy of Willie Mays’, and the great ballplayer sometimes stopped to speak with the youngsters. He
    on this one day chanced to offer Simpson a ride in his sports car, and together they zipped away to a dry cleaner’s.

    Mays came out of the place empty-handed, for even Willie Mays’ clothes were not ready until they were ready. Simpson later said that this small
    incident helped him understand that Mays was as mortal as himself. That led to a realization.

    ” I could be Willie Mays,: Simpson later said

    Simpson thereafter steered clear of trouble and concentrated on the natural ability that he now believed could make him one of the greats. . . »

    - column by Michael Daly on page 6 of the Tuesday, June 21, 1994 New York Daily News.

    To make this clearer you should understand that at this point, O. J. Simpson was a baseball player (plus a track star) He was a catcher
    in the baseball team until he broke a thumb.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  246. Wrong thread. This should be in Breitbart thread,

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  247. Eliot Spitzer’s wife Silda has reportedly told friends she wants to file for divorce, but will wait till after the election.

    It’s more his going into the public eye again than the prostitution. She never liked that in the first place.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  248. Huma Abedin is pulling down nearly half a million a year working for the State Dept and as a consultant for Teneo Holdings in jobs that The US Taxpayer and The Clintons have gifted her — of course she’s standing by her meal ticket. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/07/26/huma-abedin-faces-employment-questions/

    checker99 (f19ad8)

  249. Christine Quinn will be on Meet the Press today.

    Sammy Finkelman (ee68f6)

  250. This Christine Quinn, Sammy? Let’s not tell Mark.

    nk (875f57)

  251. nk, the comment that needs to be posed is whether Alec-Baldwin liberalism (a successor to Mario-Cuomo liberalism, per below) has been affecting enough people in ultra-blue New York City to be perhaps a major reason why Quinn lost her comfortable lead among the candidates to begin with, with or without Weinergate.

    maristpoll.marist.edu, July 25: In light of new revelations that Anthony Weiner continued to engage in lewd online behavior after he resigned from Congress two years ago, Weiner now trails Christine Quinn in the Democratic primary for New York City mayor. In this first poll conducted entirely after the latest scandalous details emerged, Quinn now outdistances Weiner by 9 percentage points.

    Among registered Democrats in New York City, including those who are undecided yet leaning toward a candidate, if the Democratic primary were held today, here is how the contest would stand:

    25% Christine Quinn
    16% Anthony Weiner
    14% Bill de Blasio
    14% Bill Thompson
    7% John Liu
    2% Erick Salgado
    1% Sal Albanese
    2% Other
    19% Undecided

    nydailynews.com, February 2013: Ed Koch was always quick with a quip or a comeback or a comment — except if the subject was his sexual orientation.

    “It’s none of your f—ing business,” the lifelong bachelor fired back when asked if he was gay or straight during filming of “Koch,” a documentary recently produced about his life.

    During a nasty 1977 Democratic mayoral primary campaign between Koch and Mario Cuomo, political signs appeared in Queens that read: “Vote for Cuomo, Not the Homo.”

    Following Koch’s death in Manhattan early Friday, the New York Times released a 2007 interview during which Koch said he never truly forgave Cuomo, or his son Andrew, now New York’s governor, for the dirty political trick.

    New York apparently will have a woman in charge of city hall and a woman as First Lady. Sort of like two for the price of one. But most importantly, two women who are business-as-usual, garden-variety, ho-hum liberals. Nonetheless, they should make for a nice learning experience (eg, official dinners hosted by the mayor and her wife) for the various VIPs passing through NYC and certainly the city’s various Alec-Baldwin (or Mario-Cuomo) liberals.

    Mark (938403)

  252. Has there yet been an openly gay big city mayor? I can’t think of one. And a woman to boot, this time.

    nk (875f57)


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