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7/17/2013

DoJ Seeks Tips About George Zimmerman

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:47 am



Today, the federal government is asking an entire country for “tips” about one man. Who is the focus of this intensive effort? A top outstanding Al Qaeda terrorist? Someone from the FBI’s 10 Most Wanted list?

Nope. In fact, you’ll never guess who it is. Oh, you read the headline. Sneaky of you.

The U.S. Department of Justice on Monday afternoon appealed to civil rights groups and community leaders, nationally and in Sanford, for help investigating whether a federal criminal case might be brought against George Zimmerman for the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, one advocate said.

The DOJ has also set up a public email address to take in tips on its civil rights investigation.

Barbara Arnwine, president and executive director the Lawyers’ Committee for Civil Rights Under Law – who earlier in the day joined calls for federal civil rights charges against Zimmerman, said that later in the afternoon, she joined a U.S. Department of Justice conference call to discuss the prospects.

“They were calling on us to actively refer anyone who had any information,” that might build a case against Zimmerman for either a civil rights violation or a hate crime, Arnwine said. “They said they would very aggressively investigate this case.”

The email address for tips is Sanford.florida@usdoj.gov. I’ll be writing them and I think you should write them too.

I plan to send in a tip talking about how George Zimmerman has mentored black children. I will also mention how Eric Holder and James Clapper lied under oath to Congress, in case they want to investigate real crime. I will likely send that email later today and publish it.

I encourage everyone reading to send in a similar “tip,” as it sounds like DoJ needs some help here. Copy me on your email and I’ll publish the best ones.

169 Responses to “DoJ Seeks Tips About George Zimmerman”

  1. I suspect the IT people, if not the leadership at DoJ, know what some of us are about to do and I’m sure the address will send the e-mail to a very large junk folder. But I’m going to do it anyway.

    MT Geoff (a67ef4)

  2. Presumably this will be “information” that the FBI could not garner after months of investigation, “information” that the police and prosecutors in Florida could not uncover. Dubious to be sure!

    Steven W. (9109a4)

  3. I have sent them three tips already.

    Tonight, from a different email address, I will send some that will take them time to discount. Maybe a subject line: important information about George Zimmerman’s racial attitudes with a link to an article that talks about him mentoring black children. Make them earn their taxpayer dollar.

    God, I’m glad I pay taxes for such worthwhile endeavors.

    I want every reader of mine to send several important tips.

    Patterico (a21054)

  4. This is unbelievable. Has anybody in the DOJ ever heard of “equal protection”?

    elissa (157f9e)

  5. Back in 2008 I quipped that America was becoming a “Banana Republic.” That ain’t no quip any longer.

    Mark (98b17a)

  6. This is a DOJ high-tech lynching.

    JD (b63a52)

  7. Rickroll them with a bit.ly.

    Patterico (a21054)

  8. So apparently the rumor that OFA is running the U.S. Department of Justice now is true, then.

    elissa (157f9e)

  9. A series of stories and events (from A to Z) that make it seem like one is watching this society go through a huge car crash in slow motion.

    Mark (98b17a)

  10. Worse kind of lynching. Sheriff not just leaving the jail unlocked and unguarded but plaiting the knot for the mob.

    nk (875f57)

  11. I informed them that I have it on good authority that Zimmerman weighs less than a duck, and he turned me into a newt.

    I got better.

    Brian Epps (2f898a)

  12. The DOJ will receive a lot of dross. Millions of pages of it. It will have the manpower to sift through it for whatever may be useful in a trial. When the defense gets the millions of page pursuant to Brady it will not. Cheap, filthy but common federal prosecutor trick.

    nk (875f57)

  13. I think a lot of rickroll’s is a great idea.

    SPQR (768505)

  14. Couple this with Holder’s desire to push duty to retreat, and it is clear that the divide cannot be bridged. Perez is a race- airing asshat and will become Sec Labor despite lying to Congress, politicizing the execution of laws, and otherwise being a hyper-leftist twatwaffle. But Bush fired a US atty.

    JD (b63a52)

  15. MD, it may very well be time for Zimmerman to subpoena everything the NSA has involving a cell in the scene of the incident at that time of night. A little bit of “taste of your own medicine” if nothing else.

    nk (875f57)

  16. I’m going to tell them that I heard the entire Zimmerman family eats black babies. All those White Hispanics do it.

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  17. Seriously, if I do, I will ask them to investigate the shooting of an unarmed young black man in his car by the Chicago police, in a Chicago suburb.

    nk (875f57)

  18. Chances are, your local or state police departments have photographs of your car in their files, noting where you were driving on a particular day, even if you never did anything wrong. Using automated scanners, law enforcement agencies across the country have amassed millions of digital records on the location and movement of every vehicle with a license plate, according to a study published Wednesday by the American Civil Liberties Union. Affixed to police cars, bridges or buildings, the scanners capture images of passing or parked vehicles and note their location, uploading that information into police databases. Departments keep the records for weeks or years, sometimes indefinitely.

    Icy (faba7f)

  19. I have informed the DOJ that George Zimmerman looks suspiciously like Emmanuel Goldstein.

    Chris Bray (7e317f)

  20. Tip: He’s been tried already. Look up “double jeopardy.”

    CrustyB (69f730)

  21. Has anyone heard the opinions of my namesake lately? And I thought Islam was the religion of peace. Even W told me so. Of course now he and Jeb want 30 million more poor Mexicans here. What will that do to crime and incarceration rates.
    Voted for Scott and Rubio but both are now dead to me.
    Twitter world all proud now as they pressured perspective publisher of Zimm juror book to drop the idea. Free speech for me but not for thee.
    Regarding tips to DOJ. I think someone mentioned it elsewhere: disposable addresses: http://www.guerrillamail.com

    calypso louie Farrakhan (53ccf5)

  22. George Zimmerman does not floss after meals.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  23. This whole Zimmerman thing has been misunderstood. It never was about Zimmerman or Martin at all. They had no evidence, never did, and certainly what they put on display at the trial was at best suborned perjury.

    No, it was solely to drive a wedge between blacks and everyone else, to keep them fired up and united in a wholly unnecessary (or at least misdirected) struggle for “rights” that they are made to believe are denied.

    As someone who lived through the actual Civil Rights period and knows the utter sea change that happened in America between, oh, 1960 and 1970-something, I find the current atmosphere disturbing at best. There is great danger that the current generation of African-American leaders is intent on undoing most everything that was achieved, lest free and equal black citizens start thinking for themselves.

    So, we have this show trial, and to keep things going we have this DoJ investigation (and they will proceed with another trial — facts aren’t important here).

    All you need to ask yourselves is “Why are they lying?” and the motives become clear. Because they see power in those lies.

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  24. Crusty : it would only be double jeopardy if they were to try him on the same charges. If they gin up some fake civil rights violations, that’s something completely different, and it would give them that second bite at the apple they are so longing for.

    Personally, if I were the Zimmermans, I would have already left on a loooong vacation to visit family in Peru.

    LibraryGryffon (06c781)

  25. George Zimmerman is a free farter.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  26. Keven M.–for you. Another concerned veteran of the civil rights struggle speaks out in frustration:

    http://pjmedia.com/spengler/2013/07/15/what-do-you-do-when-the-oppressed-are-their-own-worst-oppressors/

    elissa (157f9e)

  27. If you don’t feel like rickrolling DOJ as they deserve, then send them a link to Angela Corey’s misconduct in illegally withholding exculpatory evidence in violation of Zimmerman’s civil rights.

    SPQR (768505)

  28. People forget that even MLK talked about the how the disproportionately high crime rate in the black community was a subject black people had to address.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  29. I’m as outraged and frustrated at this entire circus as anyone. But I’ve been wondering whether this entire current Justice Dept thing has more to do with calming the public than actually prosecuting Zimmerman.

    I know, Holder has given us plenty of reason to distrust him, especially on these issues, and this also plays to their base big time. I’m just wondering what they are really looking to get out of this. If the people who (they have gone to great lengths to make sure) are incited by this, largely out of ignorance as to the details and even the way our justice system works, if these people are left with nothing they are more likely to romp. Race riots do not play well in suburbia. Obama probably thinks that he has to give them something.

    A few meaningless DOJ threats may not serve the cause of justice or education, but they may serve the cause of expediency. People are easily manipulated if you have the right buttons installed. Maybe this is how they power down.

    Amphipolis (d3e04f)

  30. On the night of June 21, 1964 three young civil right workers, Michael Schwerner, Andrew Goodman, and James Chaney, a young black man, were driving back from a trip to Philadelphia, Mississippi, where they’d spent the day encouraging blacks to register to vote.

    That’s when deputy sheriff Cecil Price, who was also a KKK member, pulled them over for speeding, but he didn’t issue the driver a traffic ticket though, instead he took all three of them to jail and held them in custody while other Klan members prepared a secret burial site.

    After preparations were complete, deputy Price released the three young men into the dark of night. However, they were quickly chased down and cornered at a prearranged and well secluded killing grounds hidden in the woods. There they were beaten and shot dead, then buried in the grave sites prepared in advance of the cold blooded triple murder that shook the nation that hot summer of ’64.

    Eventually, a team of hundreds of FBI agents were able to solve the crime, but that’s another story entirely, and not at all like the movie Mississippi Burning.

    So, if you’re still reading this comment and perhaps wondering what it’s got to do with Holder’s campaign of persecution against George Zimmerman, the first thing I thought about was how much Eric Holder reminds me of deputy Cecil Price.

    ropelight (ac0d4d)

  31. George Zimmerman spat on my mat, and called my cat a bastard.

    mojo (8096f2)

  32. But I’ve been wondering whether this entire current Justice Dept thing has more to do with calming the public than actually prosecuting Zimmerman.

    That has worked well so far with the just “arrest”, just “charge”, just “have a jury trial”, prosecutors–after the jury verdict–call G.Z. a murder, just lynch him, so far… (rioting just a few dozen miles from my home on the west coast). (I know–you are trying to find the silver lining here and not trying to push an agenda Amphipolis).

    I have friends and family that moved to the US from countries that use bugging of bedrooms, local watch people, etc… This is not going to end well.

    BfC (a1cf00)

  33. Alan Dershowtz says there was a civil rights violation in the Zimmerman case — the state-sponsored prosecution by Angela Corey.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  34. mojo is a Bertram Chandler fan.

    SPQR (768505)

  35. It’s interesting seeing the erosion of the rule of law, by the Dept of Justice no less. I never would have thought things would get this bad.

    NaBr (a094a6)

  36. I sent them a tip. I told them, “You are looking more and more like the Stasi.”

    Zoltan (2f9d0b)

  37. And now you know where Mike Nifong is working.

    The helpful Dana (3e4784)

  38. Zoltan wrote:

    I sent them a tip. I told them, “You are looking more and more like the Stasi.”

    And the sad part is that they thanked you for the compliment.

    The polite Dana (3e4784)

  39. And the sad part is that they thanked you for the compliment.

    No, the sad part is they had no idea who “Stacy” was.

    Rob Crawford (c55962)

  40. 24.Crusty : it would only be double jeopardy if they were to try him on the same charges. If they gin up some fake civil rights violations, that’s something completely different, and it would give them that second bite at the apple they are so longing for.

    Personally, if I were the Zimmermans, I would have already left on a loooong vacation to visit family in Peru.

    Comment by LibraryGryffon (06c781) — 7/17/2013 @ 8:29 am

    But it’s really not a different charge. It’s basically a manslaughter charge with a specific motive attached.

    `(1) OFFENSES INVOLVING ACTUAL OR PERCEIVED RACE, COLOR, RELIGION, OR NATIONAL ORIGIN- Whoever, whether or not acting under color of law, willfully causes bodily injury to any person or, through the use of fire, a firearm, a dangerous weapon, or an explosive or incendiary device, attempts to cause bodily injury to any person, because of the actual or perceived race, color, religion, or national origin of any person–
    `(A) shall be imprisoned not more than 10 years, fined in accordance with this title, or both; and
    `(B) shall be imprisoned for any term of years or for life, fined in accordance with this title, or both, if–
    `(i) death results from the offense; or
    `(ii) the offense includes kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill.

    There isn’t a single element here that wasn’t addressed in the Florida murder 2/manslaughter trial. It’s absurd to suggest that just because the feds use different wording to force a retrial on all the same issues it’s not double jeopardy.

    Steve57 (15e538)

  41. They could probably use tips on where to buy those neat black leather trench coats all the secret policemen favor.

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  42. The jury already looked at whether or not TM is dead, if GZ willfully caused that death, did he do so with a depraved mind, and did he use a firearm to do so.

    What’s new here?

    Steve57 (15e538)

  43. 41.They could probably use tips on where to buy those neat black leather trench coats all the secret policemen favor.

    Comment by Kevin M (bf8ad7) — 7/17/2013 @ 9:44 am

    You mean you don’t already have one?

    I can’t remember where I got mine. It was either in Hong Kong or Seoul. Probably Seoul.

    Steve57 (15e538)

  44. George Zimmerman failed to keep the hot side hot and the cool side cool.

    SaveFarris (682fe9)

  45. I think I will sign mine as Julian Assange and underneath cc: Michael Nifong.

    Maybe they should be investigating if Rahm Emmanuel is complicit in the executions of black youths, and if he is guilty of hate crimes.
    God knows he has overseen the system that produces an assembly line of murder and mayhem. The only thing missing in the Chicago repetoire so far are car bombings.
    Someone besides the youths involved in the crimes must be held accountable.

    SteveG (794291)

  46. A few meaningless DOJ threats may not serve the cause of justice or education, but they may serve the cause of expediency. People are easily manipulated if you have the right buttons installed. Maybe this is how they power down.
    Comment by Amphipolis (d3e04f) — 7/17/2013 @ 8:48 am

    — And IF, ultimately, no charges are filed by the DOJ, then you might be proven correct.

    Icy (faba7f)

  47. He was found not guilty in a trial that looks like it was on the up and up…and that ought to be the end of it.

    “…nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb”

    Obey the law.

    Dave Surls (46b08c)

  48. Mr G, I’m very surprised that Rahm Emanuel isn’t responsible in some way, because, after all, he’s a Joooo.

    The realistic Dana (3e4784)

  49. Jena Six playbook. Lather. Rinse. Repeat.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  50. Steubenville Rape Case. Lather. Rinse. Repeat.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  51. Duke Lacrosse Case. Lather. Rinse. Repeat.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  52. I’m reminded about the time a podiatrist friend sent in a request to join the OJ team as an expert in “bloody footprints”. Good times. These clowns at the DOJ deserve worse.

    dfbaskwill (ca54bb)

  53. psst….DoJ….He’s Not Guilty!

    askeptic (b8ab92)

  54. Comment by Patterico (a21054) — 7/17/2013 @ 7:57 am

    The only tips they’re interested in are those from OFA!

    askeptic (b8ab92)

  55. Chicago has those strict gun control laws at least. Progtards will inform you that the illegal guns used to slaughter blacks in the town are brought in from outside the city. Ergo, those places should also ban guns.
    Nice to see Dee Dee is landing on her feet. The CBS Miami affiliate did a rather fawning story on her. Alas, every comment I read was derogatory to her. Nice to see that a radio host is pushing to get Rachel Jeantel tutoring and four years paid tuition to an historical black college. Only in America. And why can’t the government health care fix that under bite already?

    calypso louie Farrakhan (53ccf5)

  56. Dear DON,

    I heard, from a reliable source, that GZ does not use squiggly light bulbs. He also forgot and left the toilet seat up. Twice.

    JD (beb3ae)

  57. Comment by DRJ (a83b8b) — 7/17/2013 @ 9:05 am

    Shouldn’t that be “persecution”?

    askeptic (b8ab92)

  58. George Zimmerman tried to suppress white votes in Seminole County.

    The DOJ asked me how they could continue his good work.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  59. GZ had a cupcake, and only ate the icing. His food waste could have fed 3 Sally Struthers for 8 seconds.

    JD (beb3ae)

  60. Tip for DOJ… George Zimmerman is the victim of a malicious persecution that is coordinated at the highest levels of our federal government.

    Colonel Haiku (ec6093)

  61. Zimmerman once swore that the number of licks to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop was “three”… under oath.

    Stashiu3 (e7ebd8)

  62. George Zimmerman never ate a dog.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  63. George Zimmerman once put an aluminum can in the trash.

    Ghost (996b5a)

  64. And now you know where Mike Nifong is working.

    Nice one, Dana. I suggest that everyone also copy-and-paste their email message into the fields at the following URL:

    https://my.barackobama.com/page/s/report-an-attack

    in order to make it easier on the Obama folks to assign you to the closest reeducation camp. You can try to simply cc: attack-watch@mybarackobama.com on your email message to the DOJ, but I don’t know if that works. Nothing else about Obama seems to.

    JVW (23867e)

  65. 18 different 17 year old black males have been shot dead in Chicago since 2/16/12. Eric Holder and Barack Obama don’t know their names because they don’t serve a political end.

    George Zimmerman did not shoot them.

    h/t Iowahawk

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  66. The DoJ is going to look into this shooting of an unarmed teenager — right? — even though the races are reversed from the Zimmerman/Martin encounter. I mean, even though the acquittal is four years old, the Obama/Holder DoJ would want to show that all races get equal protection under the law.

    JVW (23867e)

  67. Is this tip site designed to get Zimmerman, or is it designed to give angry Martin followers a place to vent? The latter seems a lot more likely to me. I don’t think the comments/denouncements will ever be read, but a lot of people will feel better.

    It’s merely a form of group therapy, or group manipulation.

    Amphipolis (d3e04f)

  68. I fact, I am sending the tip email line the link I just added above.

    JVW (23867e)

  69. Is this tip site designed to get Zimmerman, or is it designed to give angry Martin followers a place to vent? The latter seems a lot more likely to me. I don’t think the comments/denouncements will ever be read, but a lot of people will feel better.

    You suppose any of the White House ace reporters will bother to ask Jay Carney this question? Perhaps we need a FOIA request to find out what the intent is.

    JVW (23867e)

  70. Did you know that as a hobby Z dresses up in black paramilitary garb, holds a billy club, and pretends he is a proud member of the New Black Panther Party.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  71. I think someone should set up a web site for people to give tips on how AG Holder has violated his oath of office.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  72. George Zimmerman knows there are only 50 states.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  73. George Zimmerman made fun of the Special Olympics on TV.

    Wait, that was Obama. Never mind.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  74. George Zimmerman did not shoot them.

    h/t Iowahawk

    Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/17/2013 @ 10:44 am

    Speculation!

    Inquisitor Corey (303dca)

  75. I don’t know but George Zimmerman might throw like a girl.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  76. Just write that you be the new school.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  77. Or you could ask them, Patterico, to look into this matter, as well:

    http://rochester.ynn.com/content/top_stories/490926/jury-finds-roderick-scott-not-guilty/

    It involves a racial situation where a teenager was shot dead, and the shooter was set free.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  78. George Zimmerman knows you don’t have to have an Indian accent to go to a Dunkin Donuts.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  79. I like this DRJ

    JD (beb3ae)

  80. George Zimmerman is a stress eater.

    elissa (157f9e)

  81. George Zimmerman doesn’t think Barack Obama should get him coffee.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  82. I think you should report this e-mail to AttackWatch

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  83. Angela Corey did not stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

    Neither did Perry.

    JD (beb3ae)

  84. GZ once laughed at a photo of a ballet costumed Rahm Emanuel. Heartily.

    Colonel Haiku (5348bf)

  85. George Zimmerman doesn’t think there are 200 million little white bigots in America.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  86. George Zimmerman paid for beer at a 711 with rupees. But he took a hit on the retail exchange rate.

    ropelight (ac0d4d)

  87. George Zimmerman doesn’t call Greeks “homos” and he doesn’t call white Southerners “crackers” like Al Sharpton.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  88. George Zimmerman bought his high school prom date a wrist corsage and it made her sneeze.

    elissa (157f9e)

  89. I could say this a photo of George Zimmerman on the night of the shooting.

    I could say that if I were as unfair as the national media, but I’m not.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  90. GZ once said of the current president, “I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,” and added that “Obama is a light-skinned African American with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one.”

    Oh, wait . . .

    Icy (faba7f)

  91. I heard that GZ eats GMO churros at Taco Bell.

    JD (beb3ae)

  92. George Zimmerman voted for Barack Obama and would have bought him a beer before this happened … but he might change his mind after learning Obama’s DOJ facilitated protests designed to get Zimmerman prosecuted.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  93. George Zimmerman tried to serve me Folger’s crystals coffee without asking.

    Sarahw (b0e533)

  94. George Zimmerman continues to release carbon dioxide into the Earth’s atmosphere, contributing directly to the ongoing climate change crisis.

    JD (beb3ae)

  95. George Zimmerman tried to join the Peace Corps, but he called it the Peace Corpse.

    Sarahw (b0e533)

  96. Now that’s funny, Sarahw.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  97. George Zimmerman would not let Sanford Utility co. put a delimiter on his HVAC.

    Sarahw (b0e533)

  98. George Zimmerman does not put the toilet seat down after he finishes taking a leak.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  99. The Zimmerman family babysat two African American girls for years:

    Zimmerman’s maternal grandmother, Cristina, who had lived with the Zimmermans since 1978, worked as a babysitter for years during Zimmerman’s childhood. For several years she cared for two African-American girls who ate their meals at the Zimmerman house and went back and forth to school each day with the Zimmerman children.

    “They were part of the household for years, until they were old enough to be on their own,” Post said.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  100. Zimm frequented the same chicago bathhouse as choom when he was eight. He must be bi because he was concurrently molesting his six year old girl cousin or so progtards insist. Former prosecutor and media skank nancy grace insists george drove through the checkout at taco bell nightly during the trial. For churros…no racism by her there nor continuing to insist he used term Fukcing coons to 911.

    calypso louis farrakhan (1e4c81)

  101. George Zimmerman had a black business partner:

    On his own at 18, George got a job at an insurance agency and began to take classes at night to earn a license to sell insurance. He grew friendly with a real estate agent named Lee Ann Benjamin, who shared office space in the building, and later her husband, John Donnelly, a Sanford attorney.

    “George impressed me right off the bat as just a real go-getter,” Donnelly said. “He was working days and taking all these classes at night, passing all the insurance classes, not just for home insurance, but auto insurance and everything. He wanted to open his own office – and he did.”

    In 2004, Zimmerman partnered with an African-American friend and opened up an Allstate insurance satellite office, Donnelly said.

    Donnelly was the former Viet Nam medic who testified for Zimmerman at trial.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  102. George Zimmerman tried to be a whistleblower for the sexual harassment by San Diego Democrat Mayor Bob “Filthy” Filner of binders full of women, but the media ignored his stories.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  103. Barack Obama’s father looks like George Zimmerman’s great-grandfather.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  104. Keep this on file for future reference when you are assured there is no such thing as vote fraud. Ohio poll worker sentenced to prison for multiple cases of illegal voting.

    http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20130717/NEWS0107/307170089/Ex-poll-worker-sentenced-prison-illegal-voting?nclick_check=1

    elissa (157f9e)


  105. I’m as outraged and frustrated at this entire circus as anyone. But I’ve been wondering whether this entire current Justice Dept thing has more to do with calming the public than actually prosecuting Zimmerman.

    30. Comment by Amphipolis (d3e04f) — 7/17/2013 @ 8:48 am


    I was doing some research ahead of a guest lecture at my alma mater and stumbled upon a forum for professors. They called these sorts of tactics “Jedi Mind Tricks,” where you essentially frame a situation to make the other person feel more in control or more in power. Remember, Patterico posted that brilliant e-book which explains the different axes of each political group. Trayvon supporters tend to feel oppressed by the “injustice” system. They apparently miss the point about the DOJ targeting people with tip lines certainly being injustice. Simply, the system is oppressing them and is racist. Everything is spun this way.

    If it truly is some sort of Jedi mind trick to keep people from rioting, it is still despicable as injustice is not a good tool against perceived injustice. I too thought this might be the case when Angela Corey kept repeating in the press conference that the case was brought against Zimmerman so people could see all of the facts. I figured the hope was that people would watch the trial and understand that, in accordance with the law, there simply was no case. However, what makes Corey or Holder think that someone willing to riot and while in the process injure innocent civilians and damage property really understand the nuances of the legal system or care much about laws in the first place? Corey went on to label Zimmerman a murderer, so I doubt she really brought the case to quell the very masses the media and the Obama administration incited. Plain and simple: Trayvon supporters want Zimmerman in jail and they want to use this case as a study for racism against blacks. There may be such cases, but this is not one of them.

    I took my mom out to lunch and one of her coworkers saw us and approached. She swore up and down that she watched the trial and understood all of the facts. She claimed Zimmerman was guilty and that was that. She also harped about the police targeting black people and black neighborhoods. I tried using this analogy: when I was in college, I worked with a group that offered consulting services for free to local small businesses. Restaurants that received a “B” or “C” in the past from the health department were more likely to be visited in the future due to past poor performance. If a community is the center of gang activity, drug activity, or experiences a lot of crime, it is far more likely that the police will be patrolling these areas. It makes it even more likely that the police will be making arrests within these areas. If the area is predominately one race, it follows that it is far more likely for the people of that race to be arrested more. The statistics do not account for this. Of course, she did not want to hear my analogy nor did she want to hear me explain to her how ill will was never proven. What would happen in the DOJ targeted a black man that was found not guilty? She did not want to answer this question. This is the problem when viewing through the prism of race: the only thing that matters is the color of someone’s skin rather than the nuances of the situation of which the law should be decided and often times it is hard to think of things when happening in reverse.

    Obama and his administration could have taken the opportunity to quell the rioting. They could have urged respect of the court’s decision, Zimmerman, and the jury. Instead, he isn’t letting the crisis go to waste, is he? He has taken this opportunity to put pressure on states over Stand Your Ground laws as well as drum up support for anti-gun legislation. My question is: will Obama appear in a hoodie at a midterm election rally?

    ratbeach (f5aad4)

  106. Nicholas Six has written (http://www.vdare.com/articles/whatever-the-jury-decides-george-zimmerman-needs-a-new-country-so-do-we):

    “This is what America has come to under Obama-a banana republic, replete with government-orchestrated mobs, political prisoners, and show trials.

    DN (09d6b1)

  107. George Zimmerman tried to join the Peace Corps, but he called it the Peace Corpse.
    Comment by Sarahw (b0e533) — 7/17/2013 @ 11:58 am

    I think you misheard it. The transcript said, “Piece Corpse.”

    Stashiu3 (e7ebd8)

  108. here is a sketchy but interesting account of how shia laboofyboof ended up getting a settlement cause of alec baldwin is an extraordinary douchebag

    http://www.playbill.com/news/article/180194-Producers-of-Broadways-Orphans-Reach-Settlement-with-Ousted-Actor-Shia-LaBeouf

    happyfeet (c60db2)

  109. I have reason to suspect that George Zimmerman recklessly and with malice aforethought removed the Law Label (“This tag may not be removed under penalty of law…”)from his top
    mattress.

    leilani (3544bf)

  110. I just sent them an Email saying I heard he was promising to return the American Southwest to Mexico.

    gahrie (3fff08)

  111. SPQR: I also sent my tip to the DOJ witch-snitch email.

    Let’s see if they’re as erudite as you.

    mojo (8096f2)

  112. I’ve joined in the fun but I think we should only send emails to the DOJ that point out reported instances showing George Zimmerman is not a racist and/or showing Zimmerman did not violate Martin’s civil rights by targeting him based on race.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  113. “I took my mom out to lunch and one of her coworkers saw us and approached. She swore up and down that she watched the trial and understood all of the facts.”

    I’d be surprised. Most people have no idea how bad the prosecution case was.
    Point her at this:
    http://halfdone.wordpress.com/2013/07/15/your-quick-guide-to-zimmerman-trial/

    scrubone (e7e0ea)

  114. George Zimmerman selectively edited an audio recording to make ABC look bad.

    JVW (14cd3f)

  115. Amphipolis may be right. The Democrats’ real agenda is Vote for Trayvon:

    Don’t allow politicians who need the votes of our community to avoid addressing laws that will make this sort of profiling and murder more difficult in the future.

    Hold those politicians accountable at the federal level, but more importantly at the state level where most of these laws are written. And if need be, yes, organize primary challenges to state senators and city councilmen who don’t seem to get it.

    Define an agenda that starts with gun control and anti-profiling legislation and challenge politicians to sign on or get primaried. By the way, you will be surprised by how few votes you need to win most state senate races.

    In politics we love to simplify complex political narratives with tags like “Soccer Moms” or “Nascar Dads” that defines an election cycle — Let’s bring organizing power to our protest so that 2014 is defined by the Trayvon voter!

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  116. I let the govt know that in Zimmermans arrest pic, I noticed the word racist tattooed on his iris. I hope this helps.

    Jackie justice (23b42c)

  117. Let’s bring organizing power to our protest so that 2014 is defined by the Trayvon voter!

    Unconvicted Thugs for Trayvon?

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  118. My question is: will Obama appear in a hoodie at a midterm election rally?

    Is OFAy still selling hoodies?

    Rob Crawford (c55962)

  119. Unconvicted Thugs for Trayvon?

    Nope; they want to give convicted felons the vote.

    Legally; not like they do now.

    Rob Crawford (c55962)

  120. I’m still trying to reconcile an attorney general who says we need to have a national conversation on race and then asks the entire country to snitch on someone having a conversation on race.

    Regardless, here is my tip to the email addy provided:

    TWIMC,

    I heard on NBC that George Zimmerman said “This guy looks like he’s up to no good. He looks black” on the night of the shooting.

    NBC should be able to provide you a copy of the tape. If not check with Zimmerman’s lawyers.

    Also, at Democratic Underground, they have an audio of Zimmerman on the night in question and their experts have determined that Zimmerman used the term “f**king coons” in regards to Martin. They should have a copy of this. If not, check with Chris Matthews at MSNBC.

    I also hear that Zimmerman’s parents have a photo of their son at his high school prom with a young black female. Since he is a racist she most probably was his slave.

    He also mentored two young black children while their father was in prison. This obviously was a ploy to get them somewhere he could gun them down but he never got a chance.

    This should provide a slam-dunk case.

    Best Of Luck!

    harkin (c05ebc)

  121. re: #112… call me cynical, but do you really think these misused gubmint flacks don’t already know this, DRJ?

    Colonel Haiku (aa8ee9)

  122. After all this time, I’m *STILL* surprised each time this MalAdministration proves that it has no clue about what our founding documents say or mean.

    Guess I’m a real slow learner….

    Now, where’s the “loyal opposition” and why aren’t they telling our Jerk-In-Chief “That’s not the way we do things here in America” ?????????????

    A_Nonny_Mouse (57cacf)

  123. They just willfully ignore facts that beat the sh*t out of their preferred meme.

    Colonel Haiku (aa8ee9)

  124. Know thine enemy.

    Colonel Haiku (aa8ee9)

  125. Of course they know it, Colonel, but I view this like calling my Congressman or reading poll results. The more input the DOJ gets from people who support Zimmerman, the more it may make them think twice about a prosecution. It may not make a difference, but I don’t want the DOJ to decide to prosecute Zimmerman because they only listened to the liberal echo chamber.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  126. I think this is only for show, to make it appear that they are doing what the disappointed rabble wants. No way in hell holder tries to prosecute this, he knows it’s a LOSER.

    Colonel Haiku (358fb1)

  127. Remember when the meme was “epistemic closure” of the right and it was really a predominately left-wing behavior (such as using the words “epistemic closure” in every comment)?

    Hasn’t stopped yet.

    Stashiu3 (e7ebd8)

  128. BobBeckel on TheFive-Did we not edit those tapes of the riots yesterday?
    Oh my.

    tifosa (760816)

  129. (Delete, wrong thread :)

    tifosa (760816)

  130. OMG – every single thing ever shown on the news was edited, tifosa. You are a cauldron of idiocy.

    JD (b63a52)

  131. Another thought occurs: while we’re being outraged and appalled at this DOJ stuff, please notice that we are *NOT* focusing on Benghazi, or Fast & Furious, or IRS malfeasance, or PRISM snooping, or Pres Cheez-Whiz’s Middle East meltdown, or whether-or-not the GOP is going to roll over and play dead on immigration, etc, etc.

    It’s fun to stuff the DOJ’s tip-line inbox, but then we have to go back to the same-old-slog of riding the asses of our “duly-elected”s so they know we’re still watching what they do … and we’re QUITE willing to dump them and move along to some new Senator or Representative.

    A_Nonny_Mouse (57cacf)

  132. That may be, Colonel, but Obama and his attorneys have been known to make poor decisions. UCLA Law Professor Adam Winkler says Obama’s record this year in the Supreme Court is terrible, awful, and horrible.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  133. That. We Agree on. Purposeful editing to create a narrative~to forward a deceit?

    tifosa (760816)

  134. George Zimmerman is going to be on the cover of the next issue of Rolling Stone.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  135. George Zimmerman is going to be on the cover of the next issue of Rolling Stone.
    Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/17/2013 @ 2:23 pm

    That one may be true. They’ll superimpose a target over the face though. To decry random gun violence of course.

    Stashiu3 (e7ebd8)

  136. Whoopi Goldberg is going to hold a discussion on The View about whether Trayvon Martin engaged in an anti-gay beatdown of George Zimmerman.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  137. 126 the disappointed rabble includes the liberal “intellectual elite” whiteys. Some insist whites need to pay out reparations for white racism. Scanned some of the articles on the New Yorker website. Those cretins are really upset at the death of the poor child st.trayvon at the hands of that monster zimmerman. Our next President designate, shrillary, is showing enormous empathy for the plight of the black community.

    calypso louie Farrakhan (53ccf5)

  138. We certainly agree on his SCOTUS record, DRJ!

    Colonel Haiku (32b8a6)

  139. One thing you wouldn’t see, Daley, is teh Tiger Beat treatment!

    Colonel Haiku (017a27)

  140. Bob Beckle is a Paragon of Idiocy, but he does make an admission of the obvious every now and again.

    Colonel Haiku (d63e9f)

  141. I don’t think everything goes into the bit bucket. They probably count how many e-mails they get go into what category.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  142. What is truly disgusting is that no major media except Fox have covered this story. I sent the following to the editor of my local librag this morning after I verified that the coverage of the NAACP story did not mention the tip-line:

    “Good Boy! Now can you sit?! Shake a paw! Roll over! Play dead! Gooooood Doggie!!”

    Ray Van Dune (1c68f7)

  143. Wow! They didn’t go to this much effort to get Bin Laden!

    Kind of let’s you know where their priorities are…

    WarEagle82 (2b7355)

  144. Bob Beckel once paid an escort with a personal check.

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  145. “Here’s a tip: snitches get stitches.

    This is a sick, sick endeavor, and I hope you are ashamed of yourselves. Crypto-fascists.”

    – Leviticus

    Leviticus (2c236c)

  146. Crypto? Since when has the Obama administration been crypto-fascist?

    Rob Crawford (49918b)

  147. This is truly an evil and Kafkaesque witch hunt.

    I am kind of doubtful that it’s going to help them in the 2014 midterms though, although what do I know?

    I think they’re doing this more out of some collective hate than anything.

    Your thoughts?

    Former Conservative (442087)

  148. Recall this is the same administration, that tried to put the interrogators of detainees that led us to Bin Laden in jail, after the career attorneys
    dismissed that charge,

    narciso (3fec35)

  149. 149. I’m sorry, I cannot regard seriously anyone who thinks Obama, aka Soetoro, etc., is a decent man, merely hen pecked and idealistic.

    I no longer discuss POTUS with them at all.

    As Qoholeth says “No one knows whether his son will be wise or a fool”, and I’ve time for only one lifetime of whisper and prayer.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  150. tifosa. You are a cauldron of idiocy.

    Comment by JD (b63a52) — 7/17/2013 @ 2:19 pm

    Stating the obvious, you are! Strong in the dumb side, he is.

    Yoda (ee1de0)

  151. Duke Lacrosse Case. Lather. Rinse. Repeat.

    Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/17/2013 @ 10:09

    I forgot about this one and it really makes an interesting point about the media-led lynch squad.

    AZ Bob (c11d35)

  152. The NSA has supplied the DOJ with a list of right-winger email addresses, which will be automatically rejected. Your attempts at sabotage of Social Justice jurisprudence will fail.

    ErisGuy (76f8a7)

  153. George Zimmerman had a black business partner:

    That’s an interesting tidbit.

    I became aware more recently that Zimmerman also was a registered Democrat. So it’s possible he’s one of the millions of Americans who fall for the notion that the left side of the political spectrum is where the little guy is hugged and where glorious compassion pours out by the bucket full.

    A harsh, rude awakening for him that he regrettably may never live down.

    Mark (98b17a)

  154. Assuming that this is a fair and impartial inquiry, why not take them up on tips about civil rights violations. Such as:

    Many of the state’s witnesses told brand-new stories on the stand and appeared to have been coached to do so. Isn’t it a violation of civil rights for a prosecutor to suborn perjury in order to wrongly convict someone of a trumped up crime?

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  155. Former Conservative,

    I think the Obama Administration is inflaming public opinion regarding race to mobilize the black vote for 2014. Economic conditions are terrible, especially for blacks, and I suspect the internal polls show their support for Democrats in 2014 is going soft. Stories like this generate an emotional response in blacks that hardens their support for Democrats.

    In addition, Obama is desperate to solidify his core voting groups because he wants the last 2 years of his term to cement his legacy as the Hope and Change President.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  156. I became aware more recently that Zimmerman also was a registered Democrat. So it’s possible he’s one of the millions of Americans who fall for the notion that the left side of the political spectrum is where the little guy is hugged and where glorious compassion pours out by the bucket full.

    Bet you if Rubio is the nominee, Mr Zimmerman will show up at the convention to argue to other Hispanics that “he didn’t turn on the Democrats, but the Democrats certainly turned on him.”

    If Hispanics are indeed part of the future of the electorate, this could turn into a disaster for the Democrats.

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  157. No Kevin, telling the truth under oath is a thought crime, and lying to advance teh narrative is every bit as patriotic as say stuffing ballot boxes or boycotting Chic-Fil-A.

    ropelight (ac0d4d)

  158. Meanwhile, the Jimmy Carter swims against the tide and says the jury got it right.

    Stopped Clock.

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  159. the

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  160. George Zimmerman did not shoot them.

    h/t Iowahawk

    Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/17/2013 @ 10:44 am

    Speculation!

    Comment by Inquisitor Corey (303dca) — 7/17/2013 @ 11:18 am

    Sustained! You cannot prove a negative.

    Judge Deborach Nelson

    ( When Don West asked Judge Nelson if the jury can be told that it its not against the law to walk in the same general direction as someone else Judge Nelson said “How do you know there’s not a law against following? you cannot prove a negative!)

    hexx (c60ebd)

  161. 159. Comment by Kevin M (bf8ad7) — 7/17/2013 @ 7:14 p

    Meanwhile, the Jimmy Carter swims against the tide and says the jury got it right.

    But look at his reason! He’s not going against the tide. He’s saying the verdict was really wrong, but it is not the fault of the jury. It was the fault of the prosecutor, and of the law. And also the prosecutor never brought any claim of racial animosity into the courtroom. The bottom line was that people should not and would not get angry – but not that justice was served.

    …the prosecution inadvertently set the standard so high that the jury had to be convinced that it was a deliberate act by Zimmerman, that he was not at all defending himself

    Inadvertantly! What he’s saying there is that they charged Murder Two. But the jury also had an option of manslaughter. And the murder charge was not at all inadvertant. That’s what the myth was: that George Zimmerman followed Trayvon Martin, caught him, and murdered him.

    And he also said:

    It’s not a moral question, it was a legal question, and the American law requires that the jury listen to the evidence presented. The action that was taken in the courtroom was not to bring in the race issue at all. The prosecution avoided that subject quite clearly.

    Jimmy Carter mentioned the police beating of Rodney King and the 1992 Los Angeles race riots that followed and the assassination of Martin Luther King, Jr. and the riots that followed, but said it would not happen this time.

    I think eventually, no matter how deep the moral feelings and personal feelings might be among African Americans or others, with time passing they start seeing what can we do about the present and the future and put aside their feelings about the past. I think that’s what’s gonna happen in our country.

    Sammy Finkelman (1e81da)

  162. “He is not the droid you are looking for.”

    htom (412a17)

  163. I tried to open e mail link….can’t do it..anyone know how or is link been taken down

    Granny Grunch (334148)

  164. MY EMAIL TO DOJ
    Mr. Zimmerman was found not guilty in Criminal Court of Law. Despite the State Attorney, Angela Corey, falsifying his arrest warrant, a documented biased judge, the intrusion of Barack Obama, Erick Holder, and black militant leaders, Mr. Zimmerman was found Not Guilty by an impartial jury of his peers. Due to Mr. Zimmerman’s racial makeup which is black (grandfather), brown (his mother) & white (his father), to pursue Civil Rights violation is ludicrous. Additionally, Mr. Zimmerman is known to mentor black teens. The State simply failed to prove its case.

    For our President & other administrators to have a “snitch” line to the DOJ is demeaning to their office and to the United States. Had anyone of them bothered to listen to Mr. Zimmerman’s call to the Sanford Police Department would have realized the following:

    1) He called the NonEmergency phone line to the Communications Center
    2) The Communications Center transferred him to 9-1-1
    3) The even toned even quietness of his voice
    a) these three points in no way indicate anger
    b) even when he called Mr. Martin a “suspect” and said “these assholes
    always get away” there is in change in his attitude or tone
    c) he was unsure of race at first and “asshole” does not indicate race
    d) he only later acknowledged to 9-1-1 that unknown person was black
    4) An angry, racist man who believes they “always get away” would have:
    a) called 9-1-1
    i) hostility & anger would have been heard in the tape
    ii) kept pursuing Mr. Martin after being told “we don’t need you to do that”
    b) called 9-1-1 after the action was over

    The actions of Mr. Zimmerman were typical of a Neighborhood Watch Captain who had recently heard that a young black male arrested for a potentially violent home invasion was released. Mr. Zimmerman worked with that family to get adequate locks for doors and windows. The location of this apartment was close to the area Mr. Martin was walking.

    There has been no indication that Mr Zimmerman is an angry racist. Thus, there is no call for asking people to call a “snitch” line on a law abiding citizen seeking to provide safety for his neighborhood.

    My Name
    Law abiding citizen

    “Man is not free unless government is limited.”
    Ronald Reagan

    BD McCain (8bf8d8)

  165. George Zimmerman likes to eat whitefish.

    Nick M. (a11bb6)

  166. george zimmerman is part Afro-Peruvian and Jew. His great grandfather is black and CNN supported this.

    no answer (1dfb84)

  167. Grunch, its an email address. Not a link.

    SPQR (768505)


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