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7/16/2013

Riots Break Out Over Zimmerman Verdict

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 6:59 am



The L.A. Times does it best to spin this as “youths” who “broke away” from the “peaceful” demonstration — so you see, it’s not really the fault of Trayvon supporters:

A peaceful protest of the George Zimmerman verdict in Los Angeles turned violent Monday after youths broke away from the main demonstration in Leimert Park, stomped on cars, broke windows, set fires and attacked several people.

KCBS-TV/KCAL-TV reporter Dave Bryan and his cameraman were among those who came under assault. One of the two journalists was taken to a hospital with a possible concussion, Los Angeles Police Department Lt. Andy Neiman told The Times.

Protesters also stormed a Wal-Mart in the Crenshaw district of Los Angeles, pushing their way through as guards scrambled to close security gates. A short while later, LAPD officers wearing helmets and carrying batons swarmed the store as others marched through the parking lot.

Young vandals who entered the Wal-Mart stormed in, threw merchandise on the ground and yelled, shoppers told a Times reporter. Some tried to break open the jewelry glass displays.

Ah yes, the time-honored manner of protesting perceived injustice in the criminal system: by stealing stuff. But don’t forget attacking people of a different color: that’s always important too.

The violence also included the apparent assaulting of bystanders and the hurling of hunks of concrete at officers on Vernon Avenue, the Los Angeles Police Department said. No injuries were reported.

. . . .

A masked man struck a waiter in the head with a hammer while the worker was trying to keep the windows protected at the Flora Restaurant and Bar, which had been vandalized over the weekend during similar protests, local media reported.

The waiter was seen bleeding and was treated by paramedics, according to reporters with the San Francisco Chronicle and the Bay Area News Group, which includes the Oakland Tribune and the San Jose Mercury News.

Garbage was set on fire and fireworks were thrown at police officers, officials said, while graffiti was scrawled across buildings — one message said “REVOLT,” according to KTVU-TV — and some burned U.S. flags. Windows were shattered at a Men’s Wearhouse, a Comerica bank branch, and Youth Radio, according to police and media reports. A KPIX-TV reporter said vandals broke into the CBS affiliate’s television truck.

If we could be assured that media people who were attacked and had their property destroyed were the very ones who spread a phony narrative about Zimmerman’s actions and racism; who elided exculpatory statements in 911 calls; who filled the papers and airwaves filled with images of a younger and smaller Trayvon Martin; who suppressed the material from his Twitter account . . . if we could be assured that the people who perpetrated these assaults on the truth were the very people suffering the results of their distortions, we could write this all off as karma. If you told me that the people responsible for the NBC distortions were beaten by an angry mob, I would register my regret by downloading an mp3 of Alanis Morrissette’s “Isn’t It Ironic?” (a silly song that I despise) and blasting it out of my computer speakers while sipping a cool glass of lemon-flavored iced tea. But just as every white person is not the Hispanic George Zimmerman, not every media person is the scum at NBC News who chopped up the 911 call to smear Zimmerman.

I hope they know who is secondarily to blame, after the people who attacked them and vandalized their stuff. That would be their brethren in the media. Let them report that story.

P.S. Eric Holder is already taking sides after the verdict:

Attorney General Eric Holder on Monday called the killing of Trayvon Martin a “tragic, unnecessary shooting,” and said the Justice Department will follow “the facts and the law” as it reviews evidence to see whether federal criminal charges are warranted.

I won’t go so far as to say the jury found the shooting necessary, but it may have been — and at a minimum, the jury found that Zimmerman believed it was necessary, and that that belief was reasonable under the circumstances. I am going to assume that this is just disgusting pandering from a partisan, dishonest, race-obsessed clown who knows DoJ is never going to pursue a prosecution. But I don’t trust him, and I can’t trust DoJ while he’s running it — and just as Florida mounted a baseless, politically motivated prosecution, so too might the feds under a race hustler like Holder.

Hey, assaulted media people? While you’re looking for people to blame for your busted heads, you might consider looking at people like Holder, and Barack “Trayvon could have been my son” Obama.

83 Responses to “Riots Break Out Over Zimmerman Verdict”

  1. It’s enraging.

    Yet somehow, I am able to experience these feelings of anger over the injustice of it all without threatening violence or engaging in violence. Remarkable, isn’t it?

    Patterico (9c670f)

  2. Color me, don’t collar me
    I’m just a breakaway youth

    Color me, don’t collar me
    I’ve got your TV, I’ve got your iPad

    Color me, don’t collar me
    I’ll smash your window, your skull I’ll crush

    nk (875f57)

  3. There are still so many people posting the same misinformation on this case…they still believe it-it being all the race-baiting lies. I read an interview with the prosecutors about how they ‘prayed’ Zimmerman would take the stand and that his story had a lot of “lies” yet not one thing they offered was proof of any lie…they said thing like “I think” “I believe” and “we feel”… Well… I feel they were a corrupted dishonest group tasked with a political prosecution and did so willingly…oh yeah… they also felt no political pressure in the case…according to them… bwahahaha Don’t worry- I won’t malign ALL prosecutors because of their actions 😉

    Pamela (17a6bb)

  4. Well with Corey calling him a ‘murderer’, and Crump invoking Emmitt Till, the facts don’t really matter,

    narciso (3fec35)

  5. This is what post-racial America looks like.

    AZ Bob (c11d35)

  6. Can I please pound Eric Holder for 39 seconds? Of course, someone will have to restrain his guards, I don’t think they’d agree with him, either!

    htom (412a17)

  7. hey DiGenova
    and Victoria Toensing
    how you like him now?

    Colonel Haiku (5348bf)

  8. I’m so angry that I am going to destroy this English Muffin!

    Colonel Haiku (5348bf)

  9. You are all racists. Denounced. Denounced and condemned.

    Your white supremacy mindset forced this to happen.

    JD (b63a52)

  10. Looks like CH is violently prejudiced against people of English ancestry. Or is he going to pretend it’s only English muffins he wants to destroy?

    Dr. Weevil (40c627)

  11. they always riot here for the dumbest reasons I don’t know how to help them

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  12. It’s taken me a while to get worked up to this point, but now I’m mad. Where’s the justice for Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman? They were murdered by a pampered Hollywood celebrity who got away with the crime because of his race. At long last, Where’s the Justice?

    I’m so mad I’m going to do something violent. Usually, I take my coffee black, but today I’m going to protest and add some milk. That’ll show ’em.

    ropelight (e74c7d)

  13. Due in part to the media and how it either underplays or overplays certain stories, there have been for several years now similar instances of groups of youth moving into an area, including stores, to create a commotion. But with less interest in expressing a political POV, but with the pre-crafted purpose to physically abuse or steal from people. Or what’s known as “flash mobs” or “flash mobbing.” This has been occurring in a wide variety of communities throughout the country, including in areas not associated with LA-type rioting and rowdiness, such as Minneapolis or other low-key sections of the Midwest.

    That also is what post-racial (or Obama’s) America looks like.

    Mark (98b17a)

  14. President Smarmy Manipulator and his trusty AG Windbag Coward

    Colonel Haiku (58bb61)

  15. “President Smarmy Manipulator and his trusty AG Thug Bagman”

    FIFY

    SPQR (768505)

  16. Sadly, this reaction proves what the KKK has been warning us about for 150 years now. Let the race wars begin.

    CrustyB (69f730)

  17. 1. when people predicted riots they were called racists.
    2. fear not. the people got it wrong … again … but our betters in the government will make it right and punish Zimmerman anyway.

    quasimodo (6d3411)

  18. CrustyB — you mean the very same Klan that is indistinguishable in its idiocy as these very same rioters?

    To hell with all of them.

    Rob Crawford (c55962)

  19. Kluckers were the original hoodies.

    ropelight (e74c7d)

  20. word

    Colonel Haiku (0ccd7a)

  21. Anyone else get the hunch that such widespread ignorance of the facts isn’t happening by accident? That it takes a well directed and concerted effort to be so consistently “wrong” for such a long time. It makes me wonder if the old Journolistas cabal isn’t back in business.

    Considering how quickly MSM twisted or manufactured evidence to portray George Zimmerman as a racist, and how long MSM’s professional fact checkers have had to get the most basic details right, that somehow, someway, apparently inexplicably, the same smear job is still being applied, vigorously and near universally, and with the same lies, omissions, and distortions.

    It seems as if an almost impenetrable blanket of willful ignorance keeps the racist narrative from exploding in the face of it’s deceitful manufacturers, pushers and perpetrators.

    ropelight (e74c7d)

  22. Right, the problem is people’s perceptions, not that black people actually do commit more violent crime in virtually every country and city known to mankind.

    Something tells me if that changed, perceptions would follow suit.

    Former Conservative (6e026c)

  23. This was utterly predictable.

    Geraldo and the talking heads on HLN made it a point of discussing how peaceful things were briefly before and immediately after the verdict. Both were standing by/on a split screen with protesters holding signs that said “No justice, no peace.”

    KCal 9 (the LA affiliate) was spinning the “peaceful” lines whilst people were bashing in windows. Walking down an active city street and circling cars is not a peaceful protest. It is disruptive and begging for confrontation.

    I’m disappointed that the LAPD is not cracking down. Instead, they are asking parents to find their children and bring them home.

    ratbeach (f5aad4)

  24. Eric Holder is already taking sides after the verdict

    Eric “My People” Holder (the reference is to his congressional testimony about the DoJ dropping the NBPP case) chose sides years ago:

    http://pjmedia.com/jchristianadams/2013/07/12/whats-in-holders-wallet-his-real-race-card/

    You can read all about what’s in Eric Holder’s wallet in my book Injustice: Exposing the Racial Agenda of the Obama Justice Department(Regnery, 2011):

    For much of his life, Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. carried around something peculiar. While most people keep cash, family photos, and credit cards in their wallets, Holder revealed to a reporter in 1996 that he keeps with him an old clipping of a quote from Harlem preacher Reverend Samuel D. Proctor. Holder put the clipping in his wallet in 1971, when he was studying history at Columbia University, and kept it in wallet after wallet over the ensuing decades.

    What were Proctor’s words that Holder found so compelling?

    “Blackness is another issue entirely apart from class in America. No matter how affluent, educated and mobile [a black person] becomes, his race defines him more particularly than anything else. Black people have a common cause that requires attending to, and this cause does not allow for the rigid class separation that is the luxury of American whites. There is a sense in which every black man is as far from liberation as the weakest one if his weakness is attributable to racial injustice.”

    When asked to explain the passage, Holder replied, “It really says that … I am not the tall U.S. attorney, I am not the thin United States attorney. I am the black United States attorney. And he was saying that no matter how successful you are, there’s a common cause that bonds the black United States attorney with the black criminal or the black doctor with the black homeless person.”

    Has anyone ever asked Holder what exactly is the “common cause” that binds the black attorney general and the black criminal? More important, what should the black attorney general do about this common cause? Should the black criminal feel empathy for the black attorney general, or more likely, do the favors only flow in one direction?

    Holder’s explanation of Proctor’s quote offers some key insights into our attorney general’s worldview. First, being “more particular” than anything else, skin color limits and defines Americans — in other words, race comes first for Holder.

    Ponder again Holder’s rancid comments, and consider what they mean for George Zimmerman.

    In case you’re unfamiliar with him, J. Christian Adams is a former election lawyer and a DoJ whistleblower. He exposed the fact that Holder was lying when he said career DoJ attorneys recommended ceding the NBPP case after the DoJ won. But in fact the career attorneys were overruled by political appointees. Who, by the way, consulted with the NAACP on the issue.

    It needs to be said that Holder and Obama see eye to eye on blackness. Obama didn’t end up at Rev. Wright’s TUCC for no reason. A Church not dedicated to any god but the cause of blackness.

    I know the left make the self-serving claim that blacks can’t be racist. That’s what makes black racism so powerful. If it can’t even be said to exist, then it can’t be talked about let alone sanctioned.

    Followed by the obligatory but very true disclaimer that most blacks aren’t racist. Still it made it difficult to date black girls. There’s always one guy at the BBQ who can’t stand to see a black woman with a white man.

    Steve57 (8d5173)

  25. It probably doesn’t need to be mentioned that when the DoJ puts out a press statement saying this:

    “Experienced federal prosecutors will determine whether the evidence reveals a prosecutable violation of any of the limited federal criminal civil rights statutes within our jurisdiction, and whether federal prosecution is appropriate.”

    Holder means political appointees in consultation with the NAACP will look at all angles to see how best to keep trying GZ in the press.

    I doubt they can ever come up with a hate crime. But I bet the DoJ will dig up all the dirt they can on GZ and make sure it leaks. They’re good at that; just ask a “hateful anti-Muslim film maker.”

    Steve57 (8d5173)

  26. I find that no one seems to know even the basics of the case as outlined in the trial, even now. They still don’t know that it was definitively proven by the timeline and the geography that TM initiated the confrontation; they still don’t know that Rachel Jeantel said that TM was at the apartment and chose to go back; they still don’t know that TM had no injuries except to his knuckles while GZ had a broken nose and various cuts and bruises; they still don’t know that GZ started a business with a black guy and protested another black person’s beating by a white person.

    It’s truly amazing that after all the information was presented, nobody who wasn’t directly watching the trial or Andrew Branca’s tweets seems to have learned anything about what happened.

    Rob (1858aa)

  27. protested another black person’s beating by a white person

    Not just that, but standing up to the friggin’ local police force to do so.

    Former Conservative (6e026c)

  28. Given that G.Z. was “black enough” to apply as “black to any college admin office out there today in the US–The rioters don’t know that this was just another black on black crime.

    BfC (a1cf00)

  29. Why can’t these “protests” be more like the “peaceful” White House and Democrat leadership supported OWS protests, which were peaceful because the media deliberately avoided reported on the criminal activity taking place at the OWS protests.

    Where is the liberal media suppression?

    These videos look more like a liberal’s conception of a Tea Party rally!

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  30. Remember, when it comes to race, “We’re a Nation of cowards!”

    askeptic (b8ab92)

  31. Posting mis-information:

    Yesterday, on his show, Bret Baier showed a pix of Trayvon that was taken within weeks of his death, and it was quite a contrast to “St. Skittles” that we’ve become accustomed to seeing for the past 16-mos.

    askeptic (b8ab92)

  32. Remember, when it comes to race, “We’re a Nation of cowards!”

    Well this much is true.

    Former Conservative (6e026c)

  33. Do Flash Mobs occur everywhere, or only in jurisdictions that restrict concealed carry, such as NY, NJ, Chicago*, CA?

    * I single out Chicago as IL has legalized CC (even though it has not gone into effect yet), but Chi-town will resist to the last drop of Rahm’s blood.

    askeptic (b8ab92)

  34. Comment by ropelight (e74c7d) — 7/16/2013 @ 9:12 am

    OFA has cranked up their Twitter Network once more.

    Is OFA a RICO?

    askeptic (b8ab92)

  35. Police in Baltimore are looking into an incident where a Hispanic man was beaten by a gang of black teenagers chanting or shouting “Justice for Trayvon!”

    One of the assailants flashed a pistol at the man and then beat him over the head with it.

    http://raisedonhoecakes.com/ROH/2013/07/16/justice-doesnt-mean-creating-an-injustice/

    gitarcarver (71ca11)

  36. I am willing to be the Selma Times-Journal ran similar articles about the white townsfolk’s boisterous response to Negro agitators on the Edmund Pettis bridge back in ’65.

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  37. So blacks can riot and form imprompteu lynch mobs and the police stand back. Black can shoot, rape, rob, beat whites and the media is silent.

    And think what would happen if the gun control laws that used to be aimed at blacks (by Democrats) and are now aimed at whites (by Democrats) pass.

    Black asses are the new brownshirts for the Socialist Elites.

    Smarty (273307)

  38. On the 911 call John Good said he wasn’t going to go outside.

    How then, or how loudly, did he call on them to stop and later that he was going to call the police?

    Here he is calling the police and saying that he won’t go outside.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  39. Sammy the trial is over. Did you hear?

    elissa (2174a1)

  40. 28. Comment by Rob (1858aa) — 7/16/2013 @ 10:44 am

    I find that no one seems to know even the basics of the case as outlined in the trial, even now.

    This is the fault of the press.

    They still don’t know that it was definitively proven by the timeline and the geography that TM initiated the confrontation;

    Or at any rate proven, there’s no way George Zimmerman could have found Trayvon Martin, but there are plenty of ways Trayvon Martin could have found George Zimmerman.

    Here’s a map, from April 4, 2012, although I am not sure how it stood the test of time. There haven’t been any maps published recently, I think:

    http://www.wagist.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/map_1000.jpg

    George Zimmerman chased after Trayvon Martin for about 18 seconds. So he went about 150 feet east from his truck, and probably finished the call there.

    This map actually has George Zimmerman running past Trayvon Martin! Past the alley in which Trayvon Martin was hiding, that is.

    Another interpretation: Trayvon Martin doubled back.

    I don’t have the scale so I don’t know ow far east 150-200 feet is, so I don’t know where the call ended. Another interpretation is that the place marked on the map where what the mapmaker mistakenly calls a 911 call ended, is not where it ended, but rather, George Zimmerman continued walking a considerable distance further after the call was over in the general direction in which Trayvon Martin had run, till he reached Retreat View Circle.

    In either case he passed where he later encountered Trayvon Martin.

    George Zimmerman lost him. Rachel Jeantel even claims that Geirge Zimmerman lost him – and also says that Trayvon Martin says he was just about home and then says Trayvon Martin suddenly noticed George Zimmerman (“Oh Sh?t” “that nig?er” is here) and that GZ spoke to him harshly, and Trayvon Martin protested with the words “Get off” and the call was disconnected as she heard the headphone fall on the wet grass..

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  41. Even this article, which tries to be fair, gets a lot wrong.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  42. Sammy – Until you yourself pick a version of events to stick to how is it possible for you to claim somebody else has got something wrong?

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  43. Isn’t it amazing? America is veritably a melting pot of every race, ethnicity, and religion, yet the one group which uses the slightest pretext as an excuse to “riot & loot” are our eternally aggrieved black Americans. Rodney King? Riot and loot!…Trayvon Martin? Riot & loot!…Even a natural disaster like Katrina? What else? Riot and loot!

    And then they get offended and say people are “profiling” them??? What other ethnic group in America is so predisposed to rioting and looting at the drop of a pin? What other ethnic group in America riles and incites its constituents to riot and loot for anything to do with a black person regardless of the merits of the situation?

    And then they blame it all on “the Man”, “White Crackers”, “them Honkies”, “oppression”, “the system”,”hundred-year-old grievances”,”slavery” – their favorite, “broken homes”, “lack of schooling”, and on everybody else but their damn selves! And then they complain blacks are “profiled”???

    If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, what is it? A “victimized” American negro?

    Give me a break! How about stop living in the past, stop playing the victims and blaming others for their shortcomings, stop expecting special treatment all the time, and start taking responsibility for their damn selves!

    Mark (b81d49)

  44. My God what has become of the human race?

    Roy (f24126)

  45. They always forget the Frankenstein lesson.

    mojo (0583bf)

  46. They never seem to riot when a black kills a black. Otherwise, there would be riots in Chicago every few hours.

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  47. “A peaceful protest of the George Zimmerman verdict in Los Angeles turned violent Monday after youths broke away from the main demonstration in Leimert Park, stomped on cars, broke windows, set fires and attacked several people.”

    Peaceful? Doesn’t sound too peaceful to me. Arrest them, and throw them in jail.

    Dave Surls (46b08c)

  48. While usually this is said as a joke, I actually feel I need to denounce some of the previous comments.

    Smarty, go peddle your “Blacks are the foot-soldiers of the Jews” crap elsewhere.

    Pious Agnostic (20c167)

  49. Dave Surls,

    Dude, you’re so stupid, you couldn’t even comprehend that one sentence from the news item. The quote you provided says that the peaceful protest turned violent, yet you still challenge the characterization as “peaceful,” by saying, “Peaceful ? Doesn’t sound peaceful to me…”

    Duh, Davey, it literally says right there under your nose that it turned violent.

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  50. 27. Holder means political appointees in consultation with the NAACP will look at all angles to see how best to keep trying GZ in the press.

    I doubt they can ever come up with a hate crime. But I bet the DoJ will dig up all the dirt they can on GZ and make sure it leaks. They’re good at that; just ask a “hateful anti-Muslim film maker.”

    Comment by Steve57 (8d5173) — 7/16/2013 @ 10:27 am

    Can I call it, or can I call it? From L.I. this evening:

    http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/07/feds-want-zimmerman-any-way-they-can-get-him//#more

    The highly politicized Department of Justice desperately wants to bring federal charges to placate the race-agitators, and has joined in the witch hunt.

    Via The Orlando Sentinel, DOJ solicits email tips in Zimmerman civil rights probe (h/t readers and commenters):

    The U.S. Department of Justice on Monday afternoon appealed to civil rights groups and community leaders, nationally and in Sanford, for help investigating whether a federal criminal case might be brought against George Zimmerman for the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, one advocate said.

    The DOJ has also set up a public email address to take in tips on its civil rights investigation.

    Actually J. Christian Adams called it. From the article I quoted in my earlier post:

    http://pjmedia.com/jchristianadams/2013/07/12/whats-in-holders-wallet-his-real-race-card/

    If Zimmerman is acquitted, look for race-obsessed and truth-challenged Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights Tom Perez to act against Zimmerman. We’ll see once again what that corrosive “common cause” can do.

    And from the Orlando Sentinal article Prof. Jacobson quotes:

    Arnwine said the call was convened at about 3:30 p.m. by Tom Perez, Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Rights Division of the United States Department of Justice, and included representatives from the FBI, and several federal prosecutors, she said. DOJ officials also said they would open a public email address so people could send in tips on the case.

    This is Perez’s style. He’s a megalomaniac and he threatened to sic the DoJ on any Sheriff in Georgia who dared enforce their illegal alien laws.

    So the federal persecution of GZ is on.

    Steve57 (15e538)

  51. “turned violent”, “doesn’t sound peaceful to me. Arrest them, and throw them in jail.”, means same thing it does! Would mean different if “doesn’t sound violent to me” used instead.

    To Davey, apologize you must!

    Yoda (ee1de0)

  52. I won’t go so far as to say the jury found the shooting necessary, but it may have been — and at a minimum, the jury found that Zimmerman believed it was necessary, and that that belief was reasonable under the circumstances. …

    No, the jury found the prosecution had not proven beyond a reasonable doubt that Zimmerman’s actions were unreasonable. This is far from an affirmative finding that Zimmerman’s actions were reasonable.

    James B. Shearer (6f717f)

  53. This is far from an affirmative finding that Zimmerman’s actions were reasonable.

    Comment by James B. Shearer (6f717f) — 7/16/2013 @ 4:57 pm

    Found his actions reasonable, they did! Affirmed it they did!

    One of the six jurors in the George Zimmerman trial said Monday that she was certain Zimmerman feared for his life during the confrontation with 17-year-old Trayvon Martin that ended in the teenager’s fatal shooting in February 2012.

    “I have no doubt that George feared for his life in the situation he was in at the time,” the woman known as Juror B37 told CNN’s Anderson Cooper.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/16/juror-no-doubt-zimmerman-feared-for-his-life/#ixzz2ZFyIsUi2

    Yoda (ee1de0)

  54. Elephant Stone,

    Many things that Dave has said, wrong he has been. In this instance, misunderstand him you have!

    Yoda (ee1de0)

  55. Yoda, there’s no misunderstanding. He was accusing the news item of not admitting that the peaceful protest had turned violent, when indeed the news item says right there, that it turned violent.
    Therefore, there’s no reason for him to say, “Peaceful ? Doesn’t sound peaceful to me.”

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  56. “they always riot here for the dumbest reasons I don’t know how to help them”

    My niece was living in Hollywood during the Rodney King riots. I called her to make sure she was OK. She told me that some black guys had come in her building and told everyone that they were going to burn down the furniture store next door.If anyone wanted anything, they were to be outside at 9 o’clock.

    Their reasons aren’t dumb, just criminal.

    Mike K (555689)

  57. I’m curious, AG Eric “My People” Holder has already pronounced that GZ’s shooting of TM was unnecessary.

    Ergo the DoJ wants to go after him.

    Aren’t they treading on thin ice?

    42 U.S.C. § 1983 : US Code – Section 1983: Civil action for deprivation of rights

    Steve57 (15e538)

  58. It isn’t just Holder’s recent pronouncements on Zimmerman. He also stood by Sharpton and said if FL didn’t act against Zimmerman, the feds would. And he sent the CRS goons to organize anti-Zimmerman protests.

    Holder has demonstrably chosen sides on several occasions. In fact I believe it’s possible to find statements from Holder that would prove he wouldn’t have reopened the federal investigation into GZ had GZ been convicted.

    A civil rights violation is entirely separate from a murder or manslaughter conviction.

    Steve57 (15e538)

  59. Yoda, there’s no misunderstanding. He was accusing the news item of not admitting that the peaceful protest had turned violent, when indeed the news item says right there, that it turned violent.

    Therefore, there’s no reason for him to say, “Peaceful ? Doesn’t sound peaceful to me.”

    Comment by Elephant Stone (6a6f37) — 7/16/2013 @ 5:15 pm

    Misunderstanding you still have! When something not sound peaceful, means opposite of peaceful, means violence it does!

    “A peaceful protest of the George Zimmerman verdict in Los Angeles turned violent (means not peaceful) Monday after youths broke away from the main demonstration in Leimert Park, stomped on cars, broke windows, set fires and attacked several people.”

    Peaceful? Doesn’t sound too peaceful to me. (Means violent, it does!) Arrest them, and throw them in jail.

    Comment by Dave Surls (46b08c) — 7/16/2013 @ 3:56 pm

    If Yoda says, “Violent sport, mixed martial arts is!” “Peaceful sport, mixed martial arts is not!” Both, same meanings have. Only wording difference there is.

    Yoda (ee1de0)

  60. Dave basically criticizing description of protest as peaceful, when peaceful it was not.

    Yoda (ee1de0)

  61. A peaceful protest of the George Zimmerman verdict in Los Angeles that seemed to start out as peaceful, quickly turned violent Monday after youths broke away from the main demonstration in Leimert Park, stomped on cars, broke windows, set fires and attacked several people.

    Better worded, this way it is!

    Yoda (ee1de0)

  62. if we could be assured that the people who perpetrated these assaults on the truth were the very people suffering the results of their distortions, we could write this all off as karma.

    If they work for CBS then they deserve it.

    iconotastic (4d4507)

  63. I really don’t believe these riots were spontaneous or that they “turned violent.”

    The usual suspects, from the racialists to the gangs, saw their opportunity and went for it. They all knew the LAPD would stand down for at least a day. Time to update the home appliances.

    Patricia (be0117)

  64. Patricia – I always like it when the spontaneous protesters show up with spontaneously professionally pre-printed signs. To me, that’s always the sign of an authentic, non-astroturfed protest where people are not getting paid to be there and hold signs.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  65. I meant to say spontaneous, authentic, non-astroturfed protest

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  66. i hate criminals

    they lack imagination and they just take advantage of people

    there’s so many of them here in los angeles but not so much in my neighborhood unless you count asian handjob lady

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  67. From signage shown in news footage, the Workers Party has been well represented, daley –along with the anarchists. You can almost always count on them for being able to put together a good riot on a moment’s notice.

    elissa (683e29)

  68. 69.i hate criminals

    they lack imagination and they just take advantage of people

    there’s so many of them here in los angeles but not so much in my neighborhood unless you count asian handjob lady

    Comment by happyfeet (8ce051) — 7/16/2013 @ 7:51 pm

    That’s why I could never live in Washington DC. They’re everywhere. Most especially in Asian hand-job lady’s neighborhood when Congress is in recess.

    There’s no place to get away from them. You see a mob of criminals coming after you on the street and you duck into a building.

    Then you realize it’s the DoJ and they all have security badges to that place.

    Steve57 (15e538)

  69. “Dave basically criticizing description of protest as peaceful, when peaceful it was not.”

    Dave think rioters need be thrown in prison for breaking things and hurting people. Appropriate response to jury decision one disagrees with, this is not.

    Dave Surls (46b08c)

  70. somethin just not right about that Mr. Steve

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  71. elissa – They are just spontaneous peoples, it’s a thing with them.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  72. 74.elissa – They are just spontaneous peoples, it’s a thing with them.

    Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/16/2013 @ 8:01 pm

    Spontaneous wildings are no fun if there might be consequences.

    Steve57 (15e538)

  73. Holder thinks self-defense is dangerous and inciteful.

    Especially against drug dealers.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  74. #73
    I know. Am working on it.
    Rageaholics Anonymous. nobody wants to risk taking the last cookie at the meetings and there are a lot of people with broken teeth and stuff.
    Most of the girls could kick my ass and I am thinking at least one is actively considering it. Hopefully she is working the 2nd step.

    other than that I am reading the LA times and see that the word “unrest” used as a euphemism for “rioting” has been upgraded to “spontaneous aggressive outbursts”

    An outburst looks something like this:
    Like *boom* found myself robbing the CBS2 cameraman of his video camera at gunpoint spontaneously during the outburst. Once my friends told me there is no way to pawn that thing even if I could get the CBS@ logo off of it, my Christian upbringing told me to get straight with the Lord by having my Pastor drop it off at the station without mentioning my name.
    I’m holding onto the 9MM though for protection the Zimmerman cracka zombies… and in case I need someones wallet during any outbursts on Sharpton saturday.

    In the meantime Korean shopkeeper and the Syrian liquor store owners are selling 40’s like mad while simultaneously pulling bricks of ammo out of storage and cleaning the AK.

    Supposed to be hot and steamy weather on Saturday too.
    Not going to be a good day for white truckers to get lost in South Central

    steveg (794291)

  75. That’s why Eric Holder sells AK-47s to drug dealers, so they can help keep the police from starting trouble, and they pay hard cash for the guns Holder buys with taxpayer money.

    And, if a few Border Patrol agents get caught in the crossfire, well, that’s their problem and anyway Holder can always get his pal in the White House, Barack Obama, to exert Executive Privilege to make sure Congressional investigators can’t get their hands on records proving the Administration’s involvement in gun running, dozens of deaths, and the blatant punishing of brave whistleblowers.

    ropelight (ac0d4d)

  76. They’re everywhere. Most especially in Asian hand-job lady’s neighborhood when Congress is in recess.

    LOL. Happyfeet has a way with words, and they’re catchy.

    Then you realize it’s the DoJ and they all have security badges to that place

    That’s one reason why although I can’t disagree with just about any of your comments regarding a character like Edward Snowden, my heart really wasn’t in it. Not in this age of a Nidal-Hasan-ized — or, more recently and in other ways, Treyvon-Martin-ized — America.

    Mark (98b17a)

  77. For those who still think one punch can’t hurt someone: Man punched by son at Orlando Dave and Buster’s dies.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  78. 78. Comment by ropelight (ac0d4d) — 7/17/2013 @ 7:50 am

    That’s why Eric Holder sells AK-47s to drug dealers,

    He – or the FBI – didn’t sell the AK-47s or otehr guns to drug dealers.

    They let them buy them.

    Now maybe somebody was collectinmg a rakeoff.

    Probably not Eric Holder.

    Sammy Finkelman (6f9f42)

  79. Sammy Finkelstein, you are uninformed regarding the details of Operation Fast & Furious. In one episode, an ATF informant used ATF funds to buy a firearm and then smuggle it to Mexico.

    SPQR (768505)


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