Luxury Accomodations for Terrorists in Saudi Arabia
Saudi Arabia is reportedly experimenting with a unique approach to rehabilitating Al Qaeda prisoners, including offering spa treatments, loads of exercise and even conjugal visits to the suspected terrorists.
“In order to fight terrorism, we must give them an intellectual and psychological balance… through dialogue and persuasion,” said Said al-Bishi, the nation’s director of rehabilitation centers, according to the Agence France Presse.
Saudi officials told AFP a total of 2,336 Al-Qaeda prisoners have so far graduated from the various rehab programs offered by the Prince Mohammed bin Nayef Center for Counseling and Care — with a less than 10 percent recidivism rate to radical Islam.
The “intellectual and psychological balance” includes no small measure of luxury:
AFP writes that in between such sessions, prisoners may relax at the center’s Olympic-size, indoor swimming pool, go for a turn in one of its saunas, exercise in the gymnasium, or take in a leisurely showing of their favorite shows in the complex’s television hall.
Additionally, each one of the Riyadh facility’s 12 buildings is equipped to host 19 prisoners a piece with special suites in which ex-jihadists may spend time with visiting family members.
And good behavior could even earn former militants a two-day break with their wives, AFP reports.
Membership dues start at $5000 per year for basic packages (or kill one infidel) up to $20,000 per year for the deluxe packages (must kill at least 10 infidels).
Via narciso, who always has great links.
Thanks, Patterico, next time they’ll do more fine arts and macrame;
Indeed, AFP reports that there have already been some high-profile returns of rehab grads to jihad, such as Saeed al-Shehri, who ascended to deputy leader of Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula after supposedly undergoing the aforementioned treatments.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/05/26/al-qaeda-rehab-includes-spa-treatments-family-fun-time-in-saudi-arabia/#ixzz2UVRUSYP9
narciso (3fec35) — 5/27/2013 @ 8:12 amSomehow this doesn’t sound to me like it is too discouraging of terrorism, if that is part of the general idea.
MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 5/27/2013 @ 8:36 amThis is a country which punishes simple robbery with beheading and crucifixion. The AQs are getting the princely treatment because the monarchy does not dare do anything else. The Wahabis run the country and the royals themselves are just one wrong step away from losing their heads. Want to stop Al Qaeda? Take out Saudi Arabia.
nk (875f57) — 5/27/2013 @ 9:02 amThis has been going on for years, BTW.
nk (875f57) — 5/27/2013 @ 9:07 amit is to die for
Colonel Haiku (d4b44f) — 5/27/2013 @ 9:42 amand try teh Virginia ham
we’ll leave teh light on
We can stop Al Qaeda’s advance without taking out Saudi Arabia, but we do need to take out Al Qaeda’s enablers in the Obama Administration before they succeed in turning over the entire Middle East to Islamic terrorism.
Can anyone doubt the State Department under Hillary Clinton was engaged in supplying arms to Al Qaeda and it’s affiliates in Libya and then in collecting Libyan arms in Benghazi for shipment to Syria?
Barack Obama is Al Qaeda’s #1 supplier of military grade arms and ammunition, (and airpower when the chips are down). Without Obama’s support Al Qaeda never would have been able to take out Egypt’s Mubarak or Libya’s Gaddafi.
If we want to stop the spread of Islamic terrorism in the Middle East we need to clean up our own backyard first, and that means putting a stop to Obama’s jihad against the USA.
ropelight (118d83) — 5/27/2013 @ 9:42 ami need a new drug
Colonel Haiku (d4b44f) — 5/27/2013 @ 9:44 amone that won’t make me lose head
but will soothe rug burns
bask in luxury
Colonel Haiku (d4b44f) — 5/27/2013 @ 9:50 amconjugate with teh old crow
weekday specials now
try teh buffet brunch
Colonel Haiku (d4b44f) — 5/27/2013 @ 10:15 amyou’ll scream allahu ahkbar!
and free mimosas!
WAR>
You know that scene in Cleopatra where Roddy McDowel tosses the spear of war, plants it right in Egyptian ambassador’s chest.
There is our enemy, and praise be to Allah, it’s an oil monarchy.
We fuck them up, everybody wins.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 5/27/2013 @ 10:18 am“and even conjugal visits to the suspected terrorists”
Seriously, does this lame come on even work?
“Terrorists, turn yourselves in and enjoy the company of 72 virgins!”
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 5/27/2013 @ 10:24 am#HotelRiyadh 666 stories and 72 virgins… we’ll leave teh light on…
Colonel Haiku (d4b44f) — 5/27/2013 @ 10:29 amA little R & R before the next operation.
Patricia (be0117) — 5/27/2013 @ 11:03 amallahu ack ack!
Colonel Haiku (d4b44f) — 5/27/2013 @ 11:32 amConsidering that polygamy means that many Muslim men have no hope of [traditional] marriage, it is little wonder that the 72 virgins thing works. Not so sure about conjugal visits for the never-married, though.
Kevin M (bf8ad7) — 5/27/2013 @ 12:54 pma B2 can carry 80 JDAMs… and there are 12 buildings.
just sayin’
redc1c4 (403dff) — 5/27/2013 @ 1:26 pmThe Saudi program has a ~20% recidivism rate. That’s not bad for any behavior modification program. Perfect? Hardly. But Guantanamo hasn’t done any better.
John Burgess (cf0d2a) — 5/27/2013 @ 4:56 pmI always believe everything the Saudis tell the AFP to tell us, Mr. Burgess.
nk (875f57) — 5/27/2013 @ 5:25 pmI don’t think Gitmo was based on the idea of rehabilitating threats to civilized humanity, but rather on detaining people who were likely to kill again if released. The preferred recidivism rate for Gitmo is zero. Anything above that is failure.
Besides, any recidivism rate for terrorists needs to be calculated like cancer survival rates, at 6 months, 1 yr, 2 yrs, 5 yrs, etc. until they die terrorism free.
MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 5/27/2013 @ 5:25 pmAnd, if they don’t appreciate all of the luxuries being provided to them, and still wish to engage in jihad, they can always be dealt with under Rule-7.62.
askeptic (2bb434) — 5/27/2013 @ 5:30 pmBurgess, you are confused about the purpose of Guantanamo Bay. Which is not surprising since the President is f’ing clueless too.
SPQR (768505) — 5/27/2013 @ 5:31 pmThe problem, more broadly is the communities they come from, the Ghamdi tribe, for instance has provided one of the leading Chechen commanders, several hijackers, the Mosul mess bomber, and at least one front line AQAP official.
narciso (3fec35) — 5/27/2013 @ 5:59 pmAs 70% of Saudi citizens(excludes most of the population) morally support terrorist goals and 50% have supported financially I rather imagine we’re talking employment perquisites.
You can talk recidivism but all able-bodied inmates work in their area of expertise, so to speak.
gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 5/27/2013 @ 6:11 pmSometimes they see reason,
http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2012/07/ex-guantanamo_detain.php
narciso (3fec35) — 5/27/2013 @ 6:14 pmIt seems there was a riot there today as their favorite TV show was cancelled. The Bradahbi Bunch was cancelled due to Mr. Bradahbi performing honor killings of his entire family.
peedoffamerican (a84075) — 5/27/2013 @ 7:23 pmThat’s an interesting article, narciso; but given treatment upon “turning yourself in”, one wonders if he just wanted some R+R with expenses paid.
MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 5/27/2013 @ 7:23 pmIt seems that Mrs. Bradahbi drove a car, the girls refused to wear their hijabs, and the boys all converted to Christianity. Mr. Bradahbi will soon be joining the other terrorists for his much needed vacation.
peedoffamerican (127915) — 5/27/2013 @ 7:27 pmWhen will they figure out, that the state faith, Wahhabism makes the regime seem illegitimate, and jihad an obligation,
narciso (3fec35) — 5/27/2013 @ 7:47 pmI say we add mud baths to their spa regimen. Here’s how it would work: Dig a six-foot hole, insert terrorist, fill with mud, cover with steel plate. Check back every six months or so.
Kevin Stafford (1d1b9e) — 5/27/2013 @ 8:49 pmluxury accommodations for terrorists is no good
saudi royal perverts are perverted
someone needs to take away their checkbooks
happyfeet (8ce051) — 5/27/2013 @ 9:43 pmMs, Hirsi Ali, makes the point more eloquently then I;
http://tiny.cc/sd2rxw
narciso (3fec35) — 5/27/2013 @ 9:51 pmI suspect that ‘rehab’ means something different to the Saudis than it does to us.
Steve S. (c6f4e0) — 5/27/2013 @ 10:13 pmOT Rinos in Texas – Censure Ted Cruz in legislative session:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/28/us-usa-taxes-texas-idUSBRE94Q0LG20130528
E.PWJ (bdd0a6) — 5/28/2013 @ 4:16 amDid Texas just slap the liar Cruz in the face by passing yet another one of Americas largest ever tax cuts?
Did anyone ask what role Cruz had in the failed Bush Amnesty plan?
We need more ivy league politicians that speak one thing and do another.
In other news Alaska just Repealed Palin. Oil companies pledge to finally return…..
E.PWJ (bdd0a6) — 5/28/2013 @ 4:35 amConsidering that he was Atty General in Texas at time, not a heck of a lot;
narciso (3fec35) — 5/28/2013 @ 5:28 amAn interesting detail, is one of the Chechen warlords, Khattab was brought to the country by the IIRO, the Saudi charity/intelligence front.
narciso (3fec35) — 5/28/2013 @ 5:30 amSome lies never go out of style;
http://www.texastribune.org/2012/05/26/dewhursts-amnesty-attack-cruz-stirs-controversy/
narciso (3fec35) — 5/28/2013 @ 6:02 amhttp://moneyjihad.wordpress.com/2013/05/26/russia-says-50-groups-in-u-s-raise-funds-for-north-caucasus-extremists/
narciso (3fec35) — 5/28/2013 @ 6:17 amThis is sort of the “Willie Horton” approach to fighting terrorism. With the added irony (which ironically enough would be lost on liberal idiots) that when a garden-variety criminal engages in recidivism as a result of left-wing policies the damages are encapsulated to the very few; whereas if and when a terrorist engages in recidivism as a result of a loopy approach to fighting terrorism the ensuing damages will affect the many.
William Scalia (89a442) — 5/28/2013 @ 7:27 amAn associate of one of the release, nearly blew up the fellow who came up with this plan, four years ago,
narciso (3fec35) — 5/28/2013 @ 7:30 amThe problem, more broadly is the communities they come from, the Ghamdi tribe, for instance has provided one of the leading Chechen commanders, several hijackers, the Mosul mess bomber, and at least one front line AQAP official.
Comment by narciso (3fec35) — 5/27/2013 @ 5:59 pm
Also the technocrats, a very powerful, wealthy and necessary community — they keep the country running. Osama bin Laden was from one such family, and I imagine that many of the rehabees are younger sons with elite western university degrees but not much to do.
nk (875f57) — 5/28/2013 @ 7:31 amWhen Russia gives you a bitch slap you can’t say you don’t deserve ….
nk (875f57) — 5/28/2013 @ 7:41 amnarcisco
Cruz shouldn’t sit on boards then right?
Also the Texas Tribune was founded by the NYT’s 6 years ago to try and defeat Perry.
Also Cruz is being rumored as the author of the amnesty plan in 2002,2006.
Another example of a ivy league lawyer saying one thing and doing another –
E.PWJ (f44e22) — 5/28/2013 @ 7:51 amAlso Cruz is being rumored as the author of the amnesty plan in 2002,2006.
BS. Proof, please.
JD (934f52) — 5/28/2013 @ 8:17 amThis is the thin reed this rests upon, JD;
http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/26/though-liberals-call-him-a-lino-ted-cruz-founded-harvard-latino-law-review/
Of course Al Gonzalez was actually the President’s counsel, so he might have a tad more imput.
narciso (3fec35) — 5/28/2013 @ 8:24 amNarcisco – their proof that he is pro-amnesty is a history of being against amnesty, and criticism for same?
JD (934f52) — 5/28/2013 @ 8:29 amnk beat me to it – this is not news at all, this is Fox trying to hype old news into new outrage, otherwise known as a passion play for red state rhubarbs.
I think it was 60 Minutes that profiled the returning detainees and the programs in place to rehabilitate them after years of torture and being held without charges or evidence.
The real problem began when they were fingered by mercenary profiteers in the first place – no one mentions the awkaward bounty program begun by the Bush administration, offering taxpayer money for “terrorists” in the wake of 9-11.
We took in hundreds solely on the say-so of their captors. This was the huge mistake that caused the current problem, nothing else. We abandoned due process in the zeal and bloodlust for revenge, and we turned our back on our own rule of law, and the international treaties we fought the hardest for. We pissed on the Constitution by locking away Muslims willy nilly and now it’s a whole new generation that has to foot the bill and face the consequences.
The Saudis had the best success rate, watching the returned detainees closely and treating them with kid gloves at great expense. But there can never be good outcomes when the USA stole these people’s lives away and traumatized them without solid evidence. If they were not homicidal, suicidal anti-American jihadists before, then we made sure they are now.
Mahalia Cab (c3784d) — 5/28/2013 @ 1:51 pmMahalia is batting 1.000. She is a drooling imbecile every time she clicks on “Submit Comment”.
JD (df45ac) — 5/28/2013 @ 2:09 pm@ Comment by Mahalia Cab (c3784d) — 5/28/2013 @ 1:51 pm
Well when you say it like that …
Maybe some Muslims were detained for sketchy reasons, but how is that followed by
“We pissed on the Constitution by locking away Muslims willy nilly and now it’s a whole new generation that has to foot the bill and face the consequences.”
Muslims have been pissed off pretty much constantly for what, the last (piff) eight hundred years?
Further I’d say there was no violation of the Constitution in detaining enemy combatants. The fokers were shooting at us. It’s not our fault their home countries wouldn’t claim them.
Heh. Like some icehole in Arabia give a camel fart about American jursiprudence.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 5/28/2013 @ 2:15 pmHow did someone put, they are at every part of the chain, from foot soldier, to financier to planner.
narciso (3fec35) — 5/28/2013 @ 2:25 pmGonzalez was actually the President’s counsel ?? http://www.nextbuying.com
tony (b97371) — 5/31/2013 @ 8:27 am