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4/21/2013

8th Grader Arrested — Yes, ARRESTED — for Wearing Pro-Second Amendment Shirt

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 1:39 pm

Incredible.

When 8th grade Jared Marcum got dressed for school on Thursday he says he had no idea that his pro-Second Amendment shirt would initiate what he calls a fight over his First Amendment rights.

“I never thought it would go this far because honestly I don’t see a problem with this, there shouldn’t be a problem with this,” Jared said.

It was the image of a gun [actually a rifle -- Ed.] printed on Jared’s t-shirt that sparked a dispute between a Logan Middle School teacher and Jared, that ended with Jared suspended, arrested and facing two charges, obstruction and disturbing the education process, on his otherwise spotless record.

The shirt in question says: “NRA. Protect Your Rights” and depicts a hunting rifle.

Jared’s father Allen Lardieri says he’s angry he had to rush from work to pick his son up from jail over something he says was blown way out of proportion.

“I don’t see how anybody would have an issue with a hunting rifle and NRA put on a t-shirt, especially when policy doesn’t forbid it,” Lardieri said.

There is no specific school policy against the depiction of a gun on a shirt.

I have a feeling a lawsuit will be in the works once charges are dropped and apologies are made.

Via Hot Air.

WOWK 13 Charleston, Huntington WV News, Weather, Sports

94 Responses to “8th Grader Arrested — Yes, ARRESTED — for Wearing Pro-Second Amendment Shirt”

  1. Wow.

    Patterico (9c670f)

  2. Oh, fer Pete’s sale…

    Leaving your kid in public school is quickly becoming a new form of child abuse.

    Panther 01 (9b021d)

  3. Pete’s SAKE, not “sale”

    Bloody keyboard…

    Panther 01 (9b021d)

  4. public education in failmerica is abusive and perverted

    cause of how they touch children in inappropriate ways

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  5. Well, for once, happyfeet’s comment makes sense.

    SPQR (768505)

  6. Sue the school for $250 million

    Neo (d1c681)

  7. Administrations cannot fix the educational failings of American public schools so instead they attack what they can take action on and make the public believe they are pro active…. If they are protecting our children from “offensive” T-shirts, then surely they are protecting our children for poor education, blah blah.

    And the public continues to buy it.

    Dana (292dcf)

  8. … It Relieves parents from their responsibilities and it gives more overarching power to school of administrations. A win-win.

    Dana (292dcf)

  9. why do they protect the identity of the abusive teacher?

    the other kids’ parents have a right to know when there’s an abusive pervert in their kids’ classrooms and we should all know who these people are in the community in case they decide to start abusing children outside of just the school setting

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  10. If this kind of stuff is happening in West Virginia, then I am sorry to say my friends that we have completely lost the culture war.

    JVW (4826a9)

  11. I mean, if you had told me this was California or Massachusetts. . .

    JVW (4826a9)

  12. why do they protect the identity of the abusive teacher?

    They protect them because they don’t want to get into a battle with the teachers’ unions. It is highly likely that their contract prohibits identities from being publicly released.

    Dana (292dcf)

  13. the kid could tell the reporter the name done and done

    there’s no reason the hick town tv station can’t report the name

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  14. The n.e.a. is no worse than nambla for abuse.

    mg (31009b)

  15. Chief E.K. Harper told WSAZ.com that school officials described the student as being “belligerent” and “almost starting a riot.”

    piggy piggy pension whore almost had to put the whole town on lockdown is my understanding

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  16. The shirt didn’t cause the disruption, the teacher did. Assuming any “belligerance” was a non-aggressive refusal to accept a demand he give up his right to wear the clothing with the message, then its the order, not the shirt, which was disruptive.

    If he had gathered a crowd of shocked or cowering students and no one could pay attention to class because they needed to point at, laugh at, or argue about the shirt the school would be within its rights to hold him in violation of the dress code. But that doesn’t seem to be the case at all.

    SarahW (b0e533)

  17. When the kid goes back to school he should wear a t-shirt that reads – INDOCTRINATION FREE ZONE and see if they send him home.

    jasond (ead346)

  18. One question that many are asking is how clothing that displays images of firearms can be punishable when a statue with a soldier carrying both a gun and a grenade stands proudly in the school parking lot.*

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  19. Tar. Feathers. Rails.

    htom (412a17)

  20. The lawsuits should name the school district as well and the individual teacher and school officials involved in this bull.

    Rich (b2e8a5)

  21. Lawsuit. Lawsuit. Lawsuit. I think there should be a lawsuit.

    By the way, a lawsuit is a GREAT idea since his rights were abrogated by leftists.

    Fred (8dda4a)

  22. Amazing.

    I would expect this in California…or Massachusetts, but West Viriginia? No way.

    I smell money. Kid has a fortune coming down the pike. Should be able to go to college easy.

    And just think…it’ll be ON US.

    Either way the lawsuit goes the tax payer gets screwed…just the way the left likes it.

    Monitor (a3d2eb)

  23. Related, I was glad to hear that the lawyer at Rutgers was fired who told the athletic director not to fire the basketball coach after his abuse of students was caught on video.

    Sometimes people are caught up bending over backwards to be risk-averse listening to their legal counsel that in defying common sense they cause more trouble.

    And then those in authority pull the “I’m in charge here” garbage instead of taking time to listen. maybe police officers need to watch some Any Griffith reruns to see how Sheriff Taylor deescalated things instead of stirring them up.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  24. I have a feeling a lawsuit will be in the works once charges are dropped and apologies are made.

    It’s too bad the teacher couldn’t be sued into penury. That would stop this sort of BS dead cold.

    Blacque Jacques Shellacque (2e6a55)

  25. Don’t sue the school, sue the teachers. Each one individually. The school board will throw them to the wolves as an easy out…

    Mark J (03b23e)

  26. For people who are allegedly so educated, cosmopolitan, and dedicated to learning, the Ed-Establishment (from top to bottom) is irredeemably Stuck On Stupid!

    Pull your heads out, people!

    askeptic (2bb434)

  27. This is not a mistake — this is widespread policy: punish kids for anything (AT ALL) that evokes the idea of a gun. Best done in primary grades, where the lesson (Guns are EVIL and only bad children would like them) sinks in easiest.

    An intentionally induced phobia.

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  28. He wasn’t arrested for the t-shirt. He was arrested for dispute between a Logan Middle School teacher and Jared, that ended with Jared suspended, arrested and facing two charges, obstruction and disturbing the education process

    Let’s wait for the facts.

    tomhynes (a2e520)

  29. The n.e.a. is no worse than nambla for abuse.

    They support the buggerist agenda.

    Michael Ejercito (2e0217)

  30. This is not a mistake — this is widespread policy: punish kids for anything (AT ALL) that evokes the idea of a gun. Best done in primary grades, where the lesson (Guns are EVIL and only bad children would like them) sinks in easiest.

    An intentionally induced phobia.

    Comment by Kevin M (bf8ad7) — 4/21/2013 @ 6:34 pm

    When my oldest son was in 4th grade the principal told him it was against the law for him to pray over his lunch. He was chastised and embarrassed in front of his classmates. I called the LAUSD General Counsel’s office. The person on the phone sighed and told me the principal was wrong and they would inform her that my son had a right to say grace over his lunch. However, the principle never admitted wrong nor appolligized to my son. When I asked the LAUSD General Counsel’s why the principle hadn’t appolligized, they told me that even though she was wrong, they couldn’t “force” her to appolligize.

    In the end the principle won, because out of fear my son never prayed at public school again. So you’re right, “An intentionally induced phobia”. I was glad when I could send my two boys to private school even though it was a financial hardship for me.

    Tanny O'Haley (09cf80)

  31. Not to put too fine a point on it because I was also sucked into the blue-pill life for too long, but state education of children and pretty much the state in general is totally evil.

    Hell, there are so many evil institutions in our society … like hitting children. The only remaining group of human beings one can legally hit. Schools can hit your children. YOU can hit your children.

    There’s much work to be done for the human race. Freeing the slaves and suffrage for women were not the last battles.

    Indeed, it was only in the last century that we recognised child sexual abuse as a valid concept. Freud was mocked and backed down from this when he tried to bring it up. We still think it’s OK to hit children provided that we do so within a few inches of their anus and genitals, sending shock and pain, or sensation at any rate, into these areas … of tiny humans 1/4 our size.

    Choose the non-aggression principle. Choose freedom. Choose love.

    Former Conservative (6e026c)

  32. Well, tomhynes, using your logic I’m guessing it’s because he was a long-haired hippie.

    This is true: When I was in junior high I questioned a teacher’s assertion that the moon was larger than the sun because you could look in the sky and see it.

    I was sent to the office and had to answer to the principal. A fine man who with whom I recently talked. At the time, though, he told me to respect my teachers.

    The subject never came up again. That was about 35 years ago.

    The reason I bring up the story is because you may be right. Schools have the right to maintain order as they see fit.

    Criminal charges seem to me to be a bit over the top.

    I just wonder if a student wearing a Che t-shirt would have encountered the same consequences. After all, he was indeed a murdering psychopath.

    Ag80 (19f299)

  33. This is not a mistake — this is widespread policy: punish kids for anything (AT ALL) that evokes the idea of a gun. Best done in primary grades, where the lesson (Guns are EVIL and only bad children would like them) sinks in easiest.

    An intentionally induced phobia.

    This.

    JD (b63a52)

  34. This is not a mistake — this is widespread policy: punish kids for anything (AT ALL) ….

    The state is a reflection of the family. > 90% of American children have been hit by their caregivers. Two-thirds of American children 6-years old are spanked by their mothers three or more times per week. 80% of British mothers spank their children before they turn one.

    Etc.

    Jesus had a saying about removing the log from your own eye before criticizing others. Well, yeah, the school is abusive and punishes capriciously. Whodathunkit?

    One study found that 54% of mothers said that spanking was the wrong thing to have done in at least half of the times they used it.

    Former Conservative (6e026c)

  35. Former Conservative, you did not explain why spanking a child for discipline is wrong. I disagree that it is comparable to slavery. I also find it really odd that you think of a child’s private parts in the context of normal spanking.

    I do not think that your “provided that” is even the actual requirement. I think the rules for spanking are that the child did something serious, like lying, the child understood the rule or moral that he broke, and the parent was not angry, but was in control of their emotions when they punished the child.

    That and the rule that the spanking shouldn’t be physically harmful (which is why the butt is used… it’s a padded area that is more resistant to a spanking than an arm or a face). You seem to think this has some sexual element to it, but that’s really twisted.

    I also do not think state education of children is totally evil. I think kids benefit from socializing as they grow up, and also public education is an opportunity for them to receive education on matters their parents may not be proficient with.

    It’s just a huge shame that many public schools have failed to do their important jobs. I think we need to fix education, but I don’t think we should abolish it.

    Also, I don’t think you quite understand the non aggression principle the way I do. Violence in defense of others is legitimate under the NAP, and any good justification for spanking a child is likely to include a rule or moral that when broken harms others. In fact, the NAP probably would be helpful in identifying times when spanking a child is appropriate.

    Dustin (2da3a2)

  36. 90% of American children have been hit by their caregivers. Two-thirds of American children 6-years old are spanked by their mothers three or more times per week. 80% of British mothers spank their children before they turn one.

    BS

    This isn’t about spanking. It is about the school system brainwashing children. Your soapbox is tiresome in less than 3 comments.

    JD (b63a52)

  37. This is not a mistake — this is widespread policy: punish kids for anything (AT ALL) that evokes the idea of a gun. Best done in primary grades, where the lesson (Guns are EVIL and only bad children would like them) sinks in easiest.

    An intentionally induced phobia.

    Comment by Kevin M (bf8ad7) — 4/21/2013

    It’s straight out of A Brave New World.

    We see this with so many things in [what passes for] our culture these days.

    Dustin (2da3a2)

  38. Former Conservative, you did not explain why spanking a child for discipline is wrong.

    I shouldn’t have to explain this to you. It ought to be self-evident.

    But since it is not, it’s because of the great harm it does them.

    I also find it really odd that you think of a child’s private parts in the context of normal spanking.

    I find it odd that you do not find the actually doing of this odd.

    Do you think it’s just possible that a species that thought it was A OK to own slaves throughout almost the entirety of its existence, and didn’t recognize childhood sexual abuse as a big deal until the last 60 or so years, might have got this wrong too?

    Former Conservative (6e026c)

  39. P.S. The school was wrong. Definitely wrong.

    But the licence for capricious punishment of children begins at home and only extends to the state from there.

    Former Conservative (6e026c)

  40. I also find it really odd that you think of a child’s private parts in the context of normal spanking.

    This

    Soapboxes suck.

    JD (b63a52)

  41. I find it odd that you do not find the actually doing of this odd.

    Dude, you just said a few minutes ago that 90% of children are spanked in some way, so it is by definition not odd. The butt is used for spanking in order to avoid harming the child, obviously.

    Your link provides a vague and poorly written appeal to authority and some unsourced correlations as justification for its complaint, which is a very weak argument. It doesn’t appear that Mr Arman can explain this matter any better than you can.

    I shouldn’t have to explain this to you. It ought to be self-evident.

    I think that’s the core of your argument. And it’s tiresome and stupid.

    Dustin (2da3a2)

  42. Equating routine spanking with abhorrent child abuse takes whatever good point you might make, and overwhelms it.

    JD (b63a52)

  43. The fact that you think there is such a thing as “routine spanking” — the routine assault of children — is the awful thing.

    The other evils I mentioned and other too were all routine. That means nothing. Human societies routinely do evil. Future generations (in the near future) will look at our “routine” hitting of children and be aghast at our ignorance and unethical behavior. Children: the one, and only, group you can legally hit.

    Not prisoners, not Marines, and certainly not wives — which we wrongly did for most of human history — children.

    It astonishes me; you see it as normal. It is what it is.

    Have a good night, and I’m truly sorry you were hit as children to the point where you think this was good should be passed on.

    Former Conservative (6e026c)

  44. It astonishes me; you see it as normal. It is what it is.

    It seems like lots of things probably astonish you.

    Have a good night, and I’m truly sorry you were hit as children to the point where you think this was good should be passed on.

    Go screw yourself.

    JD (b63a52)

  45. It astonishes me; you see it as normal.

    I never discussed whether it was normal. It’s you who said it was. I think your website is authored by a kook and I don’t credit any of your statistics.

    You still haven’t explained why it’s wrong. I gave you a chance to have a discussion about this, but I’m not sure you understand how to do it, so good night to you.

    BTW I’m probably the happiest S.O.B. on the planet. No need to feel sorry for me.

    Dustin (2da3a2)

  46. It seems like lots of things probably astonish you.

    The degree to which humans do and are blind to great evil within their own society astonishes me in general, yes. How children are treated by parents (and schools) is higher on that list than anything else I can think of. But, at the end of the day, I suspect I’m actually less astonished because I’m more conscious of it.

    Good night.

    Former Conservative (6e026c)

  47. Dustin (2da3a2)

  48. Anyway, for what it’s worth, I fully agree with this:

    This is not a mistake — this is widespread policy: punish kids for anything (AT ALL) that evokes the idea of a gun. Best done in primary grades, where the lesson (Guns are EVIL and only bad children would like them) sinks in easiest.

    But I think it’s much broader than that. Something similar is at work in the family where, for example, children are told not to hit and routinely hit. It’s also common in society, where everything is illegal, and everyone is a felon if the federal government wants to enforce the umpteen thousands of pages of the US code, with so many laws that they can’t even be properly counted. It’s the same type of thing: intimidation and cowing of people, training them to obey and narrowing their window of self-allowable thoughts and actions.

    They’re all linked. State behaviors don’t derive from a vacuum, they emanate from society which is to say the family.

    Night, night, this time for real.

    Former Conservative (6e026c)

  49. You mean there’s an actual law against “disturbing the education process”? If that’s the case, considering the dismal record the US education has in educating students, I would say we have grounds to arrest 80% of the teachers.

    johnnygeneric (0067c1)

  50. Get a rope…. better yet, get LOTS of rope!

    Bruce (c37518)

  51. Sue this school district into bankruptcy. Then, use the money to build a new private school to teach kids in this community the REAL stuff they should be taught and proud of: Constitutional principles, the right to their individual liberty and life, of course, with strong academics that blow away public education.

    Brian P. (4276c9)

  52. It appears that now the left is using the school system to carry on their belief’s and using the police to punish those who don’t comply. They forgot though to have the law written first that they want us all to carry out! So therefore, at this time, we can follow our laws set up by those who were more Patriotic and without a leftist agenda. We need to hold them accountable to follow the REAL laws and not the PC laws that they have established. The school and the police should be sued for violating this family’s rights. We need to stand as one to keep the rights we have. Otherwise they will take them, one by one.

    Suzanne Russell (49b8af)

  53. Wonder if it would have made a difference if the kid had been wearing a Che Guevara t-shirt.

    John Stratemeyer (1ce122)

  54. Has a fund been set up?

    WoodButcher (b6af8a)

  55. Anyone know how to contact the parents? I have $100 toward their legal fees for suing the school and that idiot teacher.

    Bestimmt (d05e46)

  56. #53 not sure, the shirt in question was NOT against the school’s dress code, it was against the teacher’s beliefs heh

    Lord Nazh (589297)

  57. Oh somebody let me know where to send money. So tired of these nazis teachers deciding what is and isn’t appropriate.

    alien (3c0baf)

  58. I’m sure the school has only good intentions in banning pro-gun, homophobic, religious, anti-abortion, anti-feminist, anti-communist, or any other t-shirt.

    ErisGuy (76f8a7)

  59. (Adjective with racial overtones deleted) Jacques Shellacque wrote:

    It’s too bad the teacher couldn’t be sued into penury. That would stop this sort of BS dead cold.

    And why can’t he be?

    If the school had a pre-existing “no slogans on t-shirts” policy, which was enforced, on which the teacher and administration could stand, they’d have a reasonable defense, and in this age of zero-tolerance bovine feces to prevent schools from being sued for discriminatory judgements, I’m a bit surprised that they don’t. This teacher’s judgement demonstrates why such places have all sorts of policies to protect teachers and administrators from taking judgemental decisions on anything; too many of them have no actual sense of judgement.

    The politically incorrect Dana (3e4784)

  60. Oddly enough, in the years since spanking has fallen so far out of favor with our friends on the left, crime rates have soared and we have a quarter of all adult black males having spent at least some time under the supervision of the courts and correctional systems.

    Just a coincidence, I’m sure!

    The daddy Dana (3e4784)

  61. I think this kid and his father should put up a short video on youtube and start a fund for paying for the kid’s defense and to pay for the lawsuit to sue the cops for the arrest and the stupid school for starting the mess, sue both of them for $25,000,000 each. Start the fund I’m up for donating $25.

    Vincent (5c7cf5)

  62. If this kind of stuff is happening in West Virginia, then I am sorry to say my friends that we have completely lost the culture war.

    There are shades of leftism throughout every nook and cranny of modern society, people of liberal persuasion all over the place. For example, Patterico has mentioned that his wife is a liberal, and I’ve observed shades or glints of liberalism in most humans.

    I just read that the Boston Marathon bombers, particularly the one who was killed and apparently was the most devout Islamicist of the two brothers, was a fan of rap music, much of it emblematic of a coarsening, pro-rowdy society. That musical style, even though it epitomizes the in-da-hood-izing of culture, nonetheless found a friend in someone who — based on his also saying American society was becoming decadent and shameless — appeared to sympathize with a Sharia-ized culture.

    The contradictions in most humans are never to be underestimated.

    Mark (1f64a7)

  63. We’ve seen once solid conservative states topple and fall to the degenerate liberal/communists…they have an agenda, and a huge part of that is to infiltrate schools everywhere. Remember places like PA, Vermont ( once one of the most conservative places in the US, was targeted by NY ACLU/ reds… How about Colorado? Calif. was once solid Republican/ Conserv…..but the incidious work of the left to control universities, courts, media has now seeped down to the public schools. Local controls have been hammered by the Fed. Dept. of Education…a left wing arm seeking to subvert our youth into their collective…making them thralls of the state in their Alinskite world of Obama and Hillary. Never give up! Fight them with every ounce of your Being….and call for the power of God to lay waste to these evil people.

    Alfred-King of Wessex (5e11dd)

  64. These dam teachers are in school to teach the subject they were hired to teach not to force their political agenda onto the children. This teacher should be fired and so should the whole dam administration. I hope the father sues the school and we as citizens should support him. Our schools are becoming communist training camps for our children. No wonder the U.S. education system has fell to something like 21st place.

    James (9f0f6a)

  65. Do not plead guilty.

    How about takeing up a collection for legal defence? I will give a few bucks.
    sounds like very minor charges but if we were to spend a million dollars on legal fees to have him found not guilty, just mabey the over educated morans nation wide would get the message.

    Stephen Rhinehart (c76c98)

  66. sorry Vincent I had not read comments when I made almost the same post.

    Stephen Rhinehart (c76c98)

  67. I bet this school has a no bullying policy,and the teacher has obviously broken it, that and the first amendment rights of the student.
    A sad commentary on our education sysytem.I bet these kids know how to use and install a condom,and can barely read,write,or reason.The dumber they are the easier they are to brainwash and manipulate .

    Danny Strunk (24630d)

  68. Those who infringe on our rights as American Citizens should be the one charged with a crime.
    The schools are overstepping their bounderies. Political statements should be encouraged in our young people. Instead our schools want to indoctrinate our children and make perfect little sheep out of them. Let’s not forget that this America and we have rights and one of those rights is not to be punished for exercising our rights. Parents need to put these so called educators in their place!

    Robert Cheatham (a0dd5f)

  69. This is why the constitution is never taught in our schools anymore. So that liberal progressives i.e.(Socialists) can in their zeal, control the minds and bodies of our future generations and make them accept subserviancy to a tyranicle athouritarian form of governance without so much as a wimper.

    GT Horvat (183394)

  70. I want to know the name of the teacher and his/her address.

    Stewart Hood (0a7371)

  71. I just read that the Boston Marathon bombers, particularly the one who was killed and apparently was the most devout Islamicist of the two brothers, was a fan of rap music, much of it emblematic of a coarsening, pro-rowdy society. That musical style, even though it epitomizes the in-da-hood-izing of culture, nonetheless found a friend in someone who — based on his also saying American society was becoming decadent and shameless — appeared to sympathize with a Sharia-ized culture.

    Why is this surprising? Sharia is aimed at cultivating a male-dominated, “honor” society where being “dishonored” is grounds for violence, women treated as property, and the “ideal man” is a raping, thieving, semi-literate murderer.

    In other words, the same ideals expressed by most rap.

    There’s also a sub-genre of Islamic rap.

    Rob Crawford (04f50f)

  72. sometimes they put the rap musics INSIDE the violent video games

    i bet they do it on purpose too

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  73. who can take a rainbow,wrap it in a sigh
    Soak it in the sun and make a groovy lemon pie
    The Candyman can

    pdbuttons (2648f1)

  74. And remember that this DOJ agrees with the idea that children should be forced to go to a government approved school, and that the education of the child is not first the responsibility of the parents.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  75. If we go back about 50 years ago, you could pray in school without being harassed. You said the pledge to our Flag, and you got paddled in school for discipline problems and spanked at home for Respect and moral issues. Yes, some kids were abused and still are!
    Now, we can’t spank our children for fear of jail, we are chastised for praying in school and we don’t pledge to our Flag. What was the result, kids are disrespectful to parents, teachers, police and anyone in authority. Kids bullying others in school to the point others want to or do commit suicide. Kids come to school and kill other kids because they have no respect for Human life. Not to mention that teen pregnancy has grown in epidemic proportions.
    I don’t know about the rest of society, but my parents and school spankings taught me a valuable lesson, you break the rules and laws, there are consequences, respect others and show respect to those in authority. If those in authority were wrong, there was a proper way to handle the situation.
    History teaches us alot about ourselves and we can see from the radical left agenda to separate our children from the parents and their rights to hold our children accountable for their actions and that there are consequences for those actions. Has been and will continue to be a downward spiral for our youth in society.
    If there is problems with child abuse, don’t assume all parents are abusive. Love your children, yes even tuff love, to teach them to respect others and that there is consequences for their actions. Killing others, teen pregnancy, disrespecting people in Authority and yes, when those in authority over step there bounds, they have consequences for their actions as well. A lesson that everyone should and could learn from!!!

    Mark Hill (2a1f7e)

  76. hard to beleive, something like this can happen.

    mel (013796)

  77. So what they’re saying is schools can teach anti-conservative doctrines; but if conservatives try to express their opinions, they’re deemed terrorist. Welcome to Socialist Amorica!

    Pee Peed Off American (9d3838)

  78. Common SENSE looses out again…..

    Actually, Common Sense is NOT to be found in today’s Public School system….

    Mike (9476b8)

  79. Mark #62 – your response included an ironic spoonerism …

    “There are shades of leftism throughout every nook and cranny of modern society, people of liberal persuasion all over the place. ” should have been “There are shades of leftism throughout every crook and nanny of modern society, people of liberal persuasion all over the place. ” …

    Alasdair (82864f)

  80. Actually, Common Sense is NOT to be found in today’s Public School system…

    Nor at any other level of government, especially “Blue” government.

    FTFY!

    askeptic (b8ab92)

  81. I read somewhere that he returned to school today, with the same tshirt on. Trying to find confirmation.

    JD (55343e)

  82. I would have ordered enoughfor his whole class

    E.PWJ (1cedce)

  83. }}} Choose the non-aggression principle. Choose freedom. Choose love.

    Choose a clue, moron. Nature has built pain into us as a form of negative reinforcement for wrong actions. When you fail to punish your children APPROPRIATELY, you raise a child which believes they can’t be punished. Then they wind up going out to a school and shooting a bunch of kids for no rational reason.

    Physical punishment should be a last resort after a consistent, reliable pattern of progressively stronger warnings, consistently applied as quickly as possible, and never applied in a manner which leaves permanent scarring.

    There’s not a fine line between punishment and abuse. There’s a fucking FENCE.

    Smock Puppet, 10th Dan Snark Master and Gender Bïgǒt (98ae1f)

  84. 90% of American children have been hit by their caregivers. Two-thirds of American children 6-years old are spanked by their mothers three or more times per week. 80% of British mothers spank their children before they turn one.

    Oh, cite your source for this BOVINE EXCRETA you clueless moron.

    And define “spanked”. Swatted once just enough to sting a little bit?

    Oh, Pooooooor “Boopsie Boo”…

    Yeesh. When your IQ rises to double digits, SELL!

    Smock Puppet, 10th Dan Snark Master and Gender Bïgǒt (98ae1f)

  85. Wonder if it would have made a difference if the kid had been wearing a Che Guevara t-shirt.

    One of those ones with guns on it, too?

    Smock Puppet, 10th Dan Snark Master and Gender Bïgǒt (98ae1f)

  86. The kid wears the same t-shirt in Wyoming or Alaska and he’s the Homecoming King.

    Birdbath (716828)

  87. 10. If this kind of stuff is happening in West Virginia, then I am sorry to say my friends that we have completely lost the culture war.

    Comment by JVW (4826a9) — 4/21/2013 @ 2:12 pm

    West Virginny is the state that elected Joe Manchin, the supposed pro-gun guy, as its senator.

    Then Manchin sold everyone out by acting as Schumer’s front man on gun control. I bet he does another ad in which he shoots a rifle and gets reelected.

    I’m just not expecting much in the way of sanity from that state. Maybe it’s all the inbreeding.

    Steve57 (da9e0e)

  88. This makes me wish it had happened here in Michigan. WV is too far to drive to give the teacher and Principal the ass-kickin they deserve.

    This is astounding, Even to an old Grandfather like me who thought he had seen it all.

    I hope the boy and his Dad end up with the Offenders cajones on their key chains.

    Dutch (2a289c)

  89. Common SENSE looses out again…..

    Actually, Common Sense is NOT to be found in today’s Public School system….

    Comment by Mike (9476b8) — 4/22/2013 @ 11:30 am

    The problem with common sense, is that it is no longer common.

    Tanny O'Haley (09cf80)

  90. A West Virginia teen who was arrested and suspended for wearing a National Rifle Association T-shirt to school returned to class Monday wearing the same shirt that got him into trouble.

    Jared Marcum, 14, was joined by about 100 other students across Logan County who wore shirts with a similar gun rights theme in a show of support for free speech.

    West Virginia teen returns to school with NRA shirt, classmates’ support

    Video evidence in the case, Mr. White said, indicates that the situation in the cafeteria deteriorated when a teacher raised his voice while confronting Jared. Other students jumped up on benches and began chanting Jared’s name.

    Seems by the students reaction that the teacher isn’t exactly well liked. And why is there a video camera in the lunch room? Are they going to arrest all 100 students?

    Tanny O'Haley (09cf80)

  91. What do you expect when you allow the Liberal Commies to take over your schools !

    JACK LANGHALS (b63d32)

  92. I’m just not expecting much in the way of sanity from that state. Maybe it’s all the inbreeding.

    Comment by Steve57 (da9e0e) — 4/22/2013

    I’m actually impressed with the peaceful and clever protest shown by one hundred kids and their families. It’s only fair that you are grading a state by the politicians it has elected, but there’s hope.

    It is scary to think what’s happened to our culture, both stemming from our media and schools. I think information is all that’s needed to break this cycle, and I think that makes fixing this problem possible.

    Dustin (2da3a2)

  93. This be on angers me that teachers should be sent to another country where they do not care about your minute rights! If I was the parents I would sue the teacher I would sue the school I would sue the arresting officer I would sue the police department and I would sue the city for allowing such an absurd thing to be done to my child and my child’s record for the rest of its life! This is United States of America not some communist country! That teacher should be ashamed of itself and the school should be ashamed of himself every person bald should be ashamed!!!

    Nicole (29eb11)


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