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4/20/2013

Refreshing Honesty from Bill Maher

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 5:45 pm

Refreshing honesty from Bill Maher:

On HBO’s “Real Time” on Friday night, host Bill Maher entertained CSU-San Bernardino professor Brian Levin, director of the Center for Study of Hate and Extremism, who maintained that despite the events in recent days, religious extremism isn’t only a product of Islam.

But Maher took issue with that claim, calling it “liberal bullshit” and said there was no comparison.

“You know what, yeah, yeah,” Maher said. “You know what — that’s liberal bullshit right there … they’re not as dangerous. I mean there’s only one faith, for example, that kills you or wants to kill you if you draw a bad cartoon of the prophet. There’s only one faith that kills you or wants to kill you if you renounce the faith. An ex-Muslim is a very dangerous thing. Talk to Salman Rushdie after the show about Christian versus Islam. So you know, I’m just saying let’s keep it real.”

I am not an Islamophobe, and I am friendly with plenty of perfectly peaceful and wonderful Muslims. I don’t believe in tarring an entire religion, or all its followers, with the actions of a crazed segment of its adherents. And other religions have had histories of extreme violence.

That said, Maher is right, today: there’s only one faith that kills you for cartoons. It can’t be against our moral code to tell the truth about this. You can’t fix a problem until you acknowledge it. And the extremist faction of this religion is a real problem, and we all need to confront it.

Maher is a rank asshole much of the time, but it’s nice when he is forthright about issues like this.

38 Comments

  1. good for him he should have his own show

    Comment by happyfeet (8ce051) — 4/20/2013 @ 5:47 pm

  2. Only if it’s on cable.

    Comment by Icy (bca094) — 4/20/2013 @ 6:03 pm

  3. then he proceeded to be a jackalope with the Mr. Curtis matter.

    Comment by narciso (3fec35) — 4/20/2013 @ 6:04 pm

  4. He’ll be back to bashing Christians and Conservatives next week. He knows where his bread is buttered.

    Comment by NJRob (fe68e7) — 4/20/2013 @ 6:28 pm

  5. A stopped clock ….

    Comment by Ipso Fatso (1e3278) — 4/20/2013 @ 6:30 pm

  6. Like most Leftists Bill Maher celebrates the pinko polka when government squanders other people’s money, it’s only when it’s they’re pickin’ his pocket he gets testy.

    Comment by ropelight (4a3698) — 4/20/2013 @ 6:44 pm

  7. The Post-Modernists have a real problem with credibility when they have to go back hundreds of years to dig up examples of Christian brutality to compare it with the actions of Islamic Radicals that began in the 7th Century (+/-), and continue today.

    Of course, they only do this because they’re scared to death that they’ll get killed if they don’t bend over backwards and kiss them some Radical Islamic butt.

    It must be very uncomfortable going through life without a literal, or moral, backbone.

    Comment by askeptic (2bb434) — 4/20/2013 @ 6:49 pm

  8. mr. maher just does the job the fascist corksackers at warner bros. want him to do is all

    if he wasn’t doing it they’d find someone else to carry their sick fascist water

    and we go round n round n round like Mr. Tevin used to say until he got arrested for solicitation

    Comment by happyfeet (8ce051) — 4/20/2013 @ 6:49 pm

  9. I felt a few light bulbs flipping on in the audience.

    Who funds this prof’s center for hate, which seems to be all about white Christian hate?

    Comment by Patricia (be0117) — 4/20/2013 @ 7:23 pm

  10. Pat, nobody is an Islamophobe. The very word Islamophobe is just more liberal bullshit, an empty slur intended to shut people up when they start spouting all their other liberal bullshit.

    Pat Condell: The myth of Islamophobia

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HR9LVf_KMO0&feature=youtube_gdata&imagePerPage=18

    Comment by Steve57 (da9e0e) — 4/20/2013 @ 7:23 pm

  11. I have to admit it. Maher is a good man for telling that politically incorrect truth.

    Comment by Patrick in Michigan (7b58f8) — 4/20/2013 @ 7:34 pm

  12. In the “give credit where credit is due” department I will give Mr. Maher credit on this.
    I think that he recently balked about just how much was the rich’s “fair share” after all as well.

    Comment by MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 4/20/2013 @ 8:15 pm

  13. Maher is still a twisted individual, and in this case, he’s the broken clock. Watching this Levin fellow (which I just did), it’s just another reminder of the sort of “intellectual” who propagandizes and indoctrinates our young folks at our state universities.

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (869a85) — 4/20/2013 @ 9:20 pm

  14. “Refreshing” and “honesty” are strange words to use in conjunction with Bill Maher.

    What he said was common sense. The great Christian hordes slashing and burning the infidels went out a few centuries ago.

    Today’s Christian hordes cook casseroles for the basement supper and sign petitions for gun control background checks.

    Comment by Ag80 (19f299) — 4/20/2013 @ 9:27 pm

  15. Re: post 9… there weren’t enough brain cells in that drug-addled audience to spark one light bulb, Patricia…

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (a0bb40) — 4/20/2013 @ 10:02 pm

  16. It was a sad sight
    When the professors reach
    Exceeded his brain

    This guy is pulling down a nice salary with benefits out the wazoo getting to go on The Bill Maher Show and to him there’s no other choices between “Islam a religion of peace!” and racism. Or as he calls it (he calls ‘em like he sees ‘em!), “Pam Geller.”

    Comment by deepelemblues (186851) — 4/20/2013 @ 10:46 pm

  17. Let’s not go overboard in giving Maher credit for bashing a large world religion which, after all, is his default posture. Tomorrow he’ll be back to bashing Catholics and Evangelicals for not being groovy with the gay & lesbian agenda.

    And let’s not be cheering him for balking at higher taxes. All that means is that Maher isn’t willing to pay for the agenda that he wants to foist upon the rest of us through the candidates that he regularly supports.

    Comment by JVW (4826a9) — 4/20/2013 @ 11:43 pm

  18. What JVW said @17. Every once in a while Maher has to acknowledge reality for his own sake so he doesn’t go the way of Keith Olbermann.

    Comment by Steve57 (da9e0e) — 4/21/2013 @ 12:01 am

  19. All that means is that Maher isn’t willing to pay for the agenda that he wants to foist upon the rest of us …

    What I meant by the previous is that Maher always has Maher’s best interests at heart.

    Comment by Steve57 (da9e0e) — 4/21/2013 @ 12:03 am

  20. But still… disturbing to see common sense for once from the guy.

    Comment by scrubone (cb17ae) — 4/21/2013 @ 3:41 am

  21. If you have cable, your subsidizing his cult of nitwits.

    Comment by mg (31009b) — 4/21/2013 @ 4:27 am

  22. I was moved to Google Prof Levin.

    “His research on extremist movements has been funded by the National Institute of Justice [DOJ], Department of Homeland Security, and the Harry Frank Guggenheim Foundation.”

    So that’s mostly you and me. Good to know.

    Comment by phunctor (5595e4) — 4/21/2013 @ 7:09 am

  23. Maher is a shock jock. That’s his shtick. I’ll listen to Ronald Reagan who got it right: They are barbarians, out to destroy Western civilization.

    Comment by nk (875f57) — 4/21/2013 @ 7:27 am

  24. Phunctor, I bet that funding started with the Obama reign. He has lots of pics of him at various political events.

    Comment by Patricia (be0117) — 4/21/2013 @ 8:06 am

  25. I don’t believe in tarring an entire religion, or all its followers, with the actions of a crazed segment of its adherents.

    By the same token, one has to wonder why anyone would choose a religion whose founder, Mohammed, was such a ruthless, diabolical, vengeful warrior. I’ll give some leeway to people who were born into Islam (ie, their parents were of that faith), but for those who gravitated towards Islamism later in life? That’s a whole different matter.

    Based on the history of Mohammed, the “crazed segment” of Islam actually has just as much credence for their interpretation of the Islamic faith and their corresponding behavior as much as the peaceful Muslims do.

    As for people like Maher, when many of his general ilk rationalized away the extremism of Communism and the Soviet empire, one could assume that was at least because the supposed egalitarian-do-gooder, looking-out-for-the-common-man jargon (and BS) of socialism struck a chord in them. But with many liberals in the 21st century making similar excuses for or even giving restrained hugs to Islamism, that reveals just how nonsensical and even idiotic the liberal mindset truly is.

    Comment by Mark (6d6213) — 4/21/2013 @ 8:45 am

  26. More like the Crazy Guggenheim Foundation…

    http://youtu.be/fDSjWfavi5k

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (869a85) — 4/21/2013 @ 8:48 am

  27. j. edgar hoover
    dressed in pink no where to go
    spinning in his grave

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (869a85) — 4/21/2013 @ 8:52 am

  28. Perhaps some of the liberals are waking up. For too long they have pretended the Islamists were wonderful because they hate America. Some of the more sensible like Maher now realize Islam is a completely crazy death cult and a terrorist breeding program. PC diversity goes only so far.

    Comment by Bugg (b32862) — 4/21/2013 @ 9:42 am

  29. don’t rush to judgment Mr. Bugg the boys’ chechen heritage may or may not have played a role here

    I heard it on cnn

    Comment by happyfeet (8ce051) — 4/21/2013 @ 9:44 am

  30. “Some of the more sensible like Maher….”

    Wow! There’s a sentence I thought I’d never live to read.

    Comment by Hoagie (3259ab) — 4/21/2013 @ 9:56 am

  31. nk is right, barbarians and they’ve breached the walls.

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (f619e6) — 4/21/2013 @ 9:57 am

  32. don’t believe in tarring an entire religion, or all its followers, with the actions of a crazed segment of its adherents.

    I’ll bite.

    When your prophet as a 50-something man takes a 6=year old for a wife and consumates the marriage when she is all of 9, that’s not cultural is child abuse, pedophlia and rape. Mohammed was by the terms of his own book, the soiled toilet paper called the Koran, a murdering, scheming, thieving pedophile. Enough with the PC nonsense. This religion is crap. It’s adherents are part of group psychosis on a grand scale. It cannot be enlightened. We don’t need to go to war, but we do need to cut them off as much as possible and keep them out. Let’s have nothing to do with this crazy religion and encoruage it’s adherents to go back to their 3rd world shitholes.

    Comment by Bugg (b32862) — 4/21/2013 @ 10:03 am

  33. They’ve done more than breach the walls Colonel Haiku. They get “scholarships”, education and support from our leftist vaunted “safety net”. And soon they’ll get Obamacare for the wounds they recieve doing their jihad.

    Perhaps we should throw in Chevy Volts, Obamaphones and Tom-Toms so they all set for IED’s?

    Comment by Hoagie (3259ab) — 4/21/2013 @ 10:11 am

  34. This is refreshing. I hope he sticks to it but I get the feeling this attack hit a little too close to home for Maher. As soon as the threat seems to go away, I fear he’ll return to PC pablum.

    Comment by DRJ (a83b8b) — 4/21/2013 @ 10:43 am

  35. Who’s worse: Mr. Maher, who for all his obnoxiousness is employed by a private company and supported by subscribers who are willing to pay for his show; or Prof. Levine who conducts his “important research” and fills young impressionable minds with his leftist mush, all on the taxpayer dime?

    Comment by JVW (4826a9) — 4/21/2013 @ 10:52 am

  36. if you need a giggle this is a for reals teaser on the front page of the National Soros Radio website right now

    The Boston Marathon bombings. The fertilizer plant explosion in West, Texas. The defeat of gun control legislation. We absorbed the non-stop news of the past six days in a first-hand, once-removed way that now defines our communal experiences.

    Comment by happyfeet (8ce051) — 4/21/2013 @ 11:27 am

  37. oh i forgot to copy the title

    Tragedy In Real Time: Living A Terrible Week, Vicariously

    Comment by happyfeet (8ce051) — 4/21/2013 @ 11:27 am

  38. Maher was right, but is also right about a lot of things, including some for which you think he is not right. :P

    Comment by Mostly Apolotical (754c76) — 4/22/2013 @ 6:20 pm

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