Exclusive: More Hagel Idiocy
If this doesn’t disqualify him, I don’t know what does. Chuck Hagel in 2002, speaking highly about . . . Joe Biden:
Joe Biden is one of the preeminent foreign policy thinkers in our country. You can deal with him. He’s always straight up. He knows what he is talking about. He’s fair, very experienced, and a very good listener. He’s a formidable guy who’s also a pleasure to deal with.
This should be disqualifying — but in a world where a guy just slightly stupider than your Dumb Uncle Rufus can be the Vice President? It is, once again, a bug that Obama sees as a feature.
Thanks to Charles C. Johnson.
“[O]ne of the preeminent foreign policy thinkers in our country.”
That’s what he said. About Joe Biden.
Patterico (9c670f) — 2/20/2013 @ 10:13 pmIt is proof that the lint in my clothes dryer is smarterer than Hagel.
JD (b63a52) — 2/20/2013 @ 10:14 pmi just found out this week his wife isn’t even a real doctor
no one tells me anything
I always wondered how he could’ve married a doctor doctor him being so dumb and undisciplined and all and I would think well good for him
but it was all a hoax
like the food stamp multiplier effects
happyfeet (acd614) — 2/20/2013 @ 10:17 pmHagel will fit right in with the other two stooges, Biden and Kerry.
He demonstrated that the other day when he was giving advice on home defense guns.
Get a double barrel shotgun, then go out and empty it into the air from the balcony.
Brilliant.
Oh, and 12ga. shotguns kick a lot harder then the .223/5.56 Nato round in the AR.
Which is why a lot of police forces moved away from the shotgun and went to the AR; they’re easier to shoot. It’s a combination of the low recoil energy of the round and the ergonomics of the rifle. They’re also pretty accurate.
But I guess Sheriff Joe doesn’t need to worry about accuracy if he’s just going to try and hit the sky. All he has to worry about is not hitting anyone in his Secret Service detail, who’ll be the ones actually protecting this clown.
If you were going to use a shotgun for defense then you know you still need to worry about accuracy because shot doesn’t spread that much at normal in-home ranges. Except maybe if you live in house with rooms the same size as the Palace of Versailles.
Oh, yeah. He knows what he’s talking about.
Idiots, all of them.
Steve57 (60a887) — 2/20/2013 @ 10:52 pmFinding an actual living person in this country who looks up to Joe Biden and is not institutionalized is a very scary thought.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 2/20/2013 @ 11:07 pmThen again, rumors were afoot that Obama was thinking of selecting Hagel as a running mate or Secretary of Defense in 2008. Dumb and Dumb.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 2/20/2013 @ 11:09 pmIf this doesn’t disqualify him,…
It won’t.
Blacque Jacques Shellacque (9841d7) — 2/21/2013 @ 12:14 amSay there Daleyrocks; they’re in a race for Dumb, Dumber and Dumbest. I’ll put my money on Slow Joe to take it by a nose.
Comanche Voter (29e1a6) — 2/21/2013 @ 4:48 am[object TextRange] is reporting that Shelby (R-AL) will vote for Hagel.
It’s over.
aunursa (7014a8) — 2/21/2013 @ 7:05 am“When queried about Hagel’s comments, Vice President Biden replied, ‘Hey-hey! Chuck Hagel is a great guy. God love’im, he’s a tremendous shortstop for the Orioles and a real credit to his race.'”
MarkJ (42fe5b) — 2/21/2013 @ 7:45 amI just thought this tidbit of information about the guy Hagel thinks “knows what he is talking about” would be interesting to people.
Joe Biden’s Shotgun Advice Could Land Jill Biden in Jail
There were so many stupid aspects of Joe Biden’s advice I suppose it slipped my mind to mention all of them. Of course the legal liability is important. A gun is deadly force. You don’t brandish it to scare people (although if they do get scared and flee that’s a plus). You don’t shoot blindly into the air as some sort of Bidenesque warning shots. If you’re not shooting at the intruder but in some other direction one can reasonably conclude you weren’t really in fear for your life.
Also, you’re legally liable for every shot downrange in most jurisdictions, even the most gun friendly. You may not get criminally charged if the shooting was justified, but even if you hit your target but the projectile passes through and hits an innocent you can get sued. Or if most of that buckshot from your lupara (I think Biden gets his gun knowledge from reading the Godfather) hits your target but some misses and hits someone else.
I also didn’t realize Biden’s house was within the city limits of Wilmington, which makes his advice especially dangerous. Articles I read described his house as “remote” but I guess to the WaPo or NYT Wilmington is remote.
Biden. Part of the Obama administration brain trust. Soon to include Hagel.
Steve57 (60a887) — 2/21/2013 @ 8:43 am“Joe Biden is one of the preeminent foreign policy thinkers in our country. You can deal with him. He’s always straight up. He knows what he is talking about. He’s fair, very experienced, and a very good listener. He’s a formidable guy who’s also a pleasure to deal with. . .”
No doubt we will later find the clause that was lopped off of the end of that sentence:
“. . . and he is not forced to answer to the beck and call of the Jooooooooos.”
JVW (4826a9) — 2/21/2013 @ 8:54 amI’m convinced that Barry selected Joe as VP in 2008 because he didn’t want anyone, who, by comparison, would overshadow Barry.
Obama had to pick someone with “experience” to balance the ticket, since he himself had only served in the Senate for 3 1/2 years.
BUT he couldn’t pick Hillary, or a Richard Gephardt, or a Tom Daschle, or a Tom Harkin, or any of the various career Democrats who were decently articulate and well-versed, because it might elicit too many whispers of, “Uh, that guy (or gal) knows more than Obama.”
Therefore, Biden became the perfect choice.
He was a career politician who had served on “important” committees, but he was a bit of an airhead who would never overshadow Obama.
In fact, he would make Obama look reasonably intelligent by comparison.
And that entire paradigm can only be achieved by Democrats, since only they can always count on an acquiescent media to not throw any fastballs at Slow Joe’s head.
On the other hand, Republicans are always better served to pick a bright policy wonk for VP such as Richard Nixon, Dick Cheney, Jack Kemp, or Paul Ryan, lest they get hammered by a vicious media, such as in the cases of Dan Quayle or Sarah Palin.
Elephant Stone (3ef239) — 2/21/2013 @ 9:15 amSo you have the spectacle of one of the only opponents of the Bin Laden raid, as the running
narciso (3fec35) — 2/21/2013 @ 9:22 ammate,
narciso,
Yeah, pal, you’re spot-on.
Biden’s “expertise” (cough, cough) is allegedly in foreign policy, yet he’s been wrong about every major foreign policy stance that he’s ever taken.
I wouldn’t be surprised that if sometime in the 1980s, he gave a speech at Podunk University where he asserted that the Soviets were not to be feared, but that the real under-the-radar threat is from an invasion by…the Canary Islands.
Elephant Stone (3ef239) — 2/21/2013 @ 9:27 amFor the nuclear freeze, against the Contras, opposed to the first Gulf War,
narciso (3fec35) — 2/21/2013 @ 9:35 amBiden has also been opposed to drilling in ANWR since at least the Carter administration. Back in the 70s he voted against the Trans-Alaska pipeline. Why? Because of course he thinks since the oil wouldn’t be online for to 10 years it wouldn’t effect prices.
Even if that were true, let’s examine what that says about Biden. First, math! Carter hasn’t been President since 1980. 1980+10=???? Any answers, Slow Joe?
But of course it’s not true. It just means Biden, like his boss, doesn’t understand how a futures market works. Also, he doesn’t understand that drilling, as well as just building the Keystone pipeline, has immediate economic benefits.
Sometimes I’m convinced these people are just playing dumb. Reid, for instance, amassed a multi-million dollar fortune, estimated to be as much as $10m, despite never making making more than what he makes now as Senate majority leader; $193k. And he never got caught, like Jackson Jr.
Biden is estimated to be worth around $500k. Unlike everyone else in Congress, what Mark Twain called America’s only native criminal class, he never parlayed his influence into a fortune.
And no, I don’t see that as a sign of honesty on his part.
Steve57 (60a887) — 2/21/2013 @ 10:09 amStupidity cannot be cured with money, or through education, or by legislation. Stupidity is not a sin, the victim can’t help being stupid. But stupidity is the only universal capital crime: the sentence is death, there is no appeal, and execution is carried out automatically and without pity.
mojo (8096f2) — 2/21/2013 @ 1:01 pmRobert A. Heinlein
Schumer’s Dishonest Hagel Sob Story – Commentary blog Jonathan S. Tobin 02.20.2013 – 1:30 PM
As Joe Biden might say, literally, a sob story.
(The former Senator is Hagel)
The (linked) source for the Commentary blog post is this:
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/02/schumer-chuck-hagel-almost-had-tears-in-meeting-87852.html?hp=l2
Anybody believe Senator Schumer’s account of this meeting? I also wonder if Schumer tells the same story everywhere he goes. Note: Schumer gives himself an escape clause. He said, “almost”
The idea that Hagel convinced Schumer of something was not credible to begin with. But this could be the definition of insulting people’s intelligence.
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 2/21/2013 @ 4:00 pmIn the meantime, Senator Shelby has said he will vote for Hagel.
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 2/21/2013 @ 4:01 pmProfessor Hagel Hagel’s Georgetown syllabus littered with anti-Israel authors
The material also argues that America is weak.
Also:
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 2/21/2013 @ 4:37 pmThe thing about this story is that Schumer would have us believe he told the 66 year old Hagel something about Jewish history, and consequently European history, that Hagel was hearing for the first time in his life.
Like maybe the history of Jews in Europe wasn’t all that pleasant and there could even have been some discrimination.
So Hagel didn’t use the term “Jewish Lobby” because he’s a Joooo Hater. He only used the term because he doesn’t have the wisdom and common sense I’ve seen every single Seaman Recruit I’ve ever run across. But now that Schumer filled him in he’ll straighten up and fly right. And that’s supposed to convince us to feel better about Hagel becoming SecDef.
I can’t wait till he talks to the troops and throws around other insulting ethnic terms and references because Schumer didn’t fill him in on the finer points of each one of those.
And, no, it’s not the least bit believable, Sammy.
Steve57 (60a887) — 2/21/2013 @ 5:11 pmWhat strikes me about that syllabi is how pedestrian, it is, Khanna, Beinhart, Brezinski,
narciso (3fec35) — 2/21/2013 @ 5:18 pm(who suggested four years ago, the US should shoot down Israeli jets on the way to bombing Iran’s nukes)didn’t see Zakaria or Friedman on that list,
Naturally. He worked for our Joooo-hater-in-chief emeritus.
Steve57 (60a887) — 2/21/2013 @ 5:37 pmOnce upon a time, I thought he was the smart member of the Carter administration,
narciso (3fec35) — 2/21/2013 @ 5:41 pmYou could still be right. But that’s an indictment of the Carter administration, not high praise for Brezinski’s intelligence.
Steve57 (60a887) — 2/21/2013 @ 6:47 pmI’m sure you’re right about Biden. Actually his entire cabinet. President Tiger Beat needs to be protected from having his illusions about being the smartest man in any room shattered. He can however be the smartest man in a room where everyone else has been handpicked by his handlers like Valerie Jarrett.
But Hagel is different in one regard. He’ll do his boss’ bidding without argument. Hagel isn’t to the left of Obama on foreign policy; he’s perfectly in tune with Obama’s second term FP agenda. And when it comes to slashing the military Hagel will go along with that, too.
Just like with FP, though, Hagel won’t be running things at DoD. It’s all going to be done from the WH. Hagel is just there to stare at his computer’s screen saver and drink his Ensure. But when the WH guts the military Hagel’s fingerprints will be on it. GOP fingerprints.
Remember, King Putt can’t be blamed for anything that goes on in the executive branch. He doesn’t even know what’s going on in the executive branch.
But then if Hagel’s an idiot, what does that make the GOP Senators going along with this travesty? Hagel’s got enough GOP votes in the Senate now to be confirmed.
Steve57 (60a887) — 2/21/2013 @ 7:00 pmWell Ashton Carter, will be running things, he was the apologist for China and North Korea, back in the Clinton era,
narciso (3fec35) — 2/21/2013 @ 7:08 pmA tough row to hoe
Colonel Haiku (1b3d9e) — 2/21/2013 @ 7:33 pmMental midgets like Hagel
Press lays down like dogs
Springtime for Hitler
felipe (3243af) — 2/21/2013 @ 7:51 pmWinter for Poland and France
One toke over line.
Springtime for Hagel
felipe (3243af) — 2/21/2013 @ 8:08 pmWinter for Marco and Ted
Now ain’t that the truth?
Hagel is an insult to prove who is boss.
Ag80 (b2c81f) — 2/21/2013 @ 8:33 pmnarciso, thanks for reminding me. Hagel may have a more active role than I’ve discussed.
Hagel can be the chief apologist for the Mullahs, Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Muslim Brotherhood.
Between the two they’ll have all the bases covered.
But don’t you just love how Hagel spills the beans and reveals what’s really going on? Such as when he went off script and kept saying he supported Obama’s strong position on containment.
And regarding your observation concerning Ashton Carter and how he’ll really be running things? Whereas Hagel has already admitted, after first admitting he needs to learn about the DoD on the job because he doesn’t really understand it now, that he won’t really be running anything. He’ll be “the leader,” he’ll be “responsible.”
He won’t be the leader, but you damned well be sure when things fall apart that Obama will make sure his GOP patsy is the one who’s held responsible.
Oh, and speaking of the Mullahs:
UN Nuclear Agency Documents Iran Atom Advances
Those tough sanctions really have the Iranian regime quaking in its boots. Just like the NORKs demonstrated the other day our sanctions have them quaking in theirs.
This line was a hoot:
“Waah,” say the six world powers, “You guys are making us look bad.”
Newsflash: they haven’t just sent a signal they’ve expanded their enrichment activity. They have expanded their enrichment activity.
I’m sure those talks will be productive. I expect the US negotiator to get pantsed.
Steve57 (60a887) — 2/21/2013 @ 8:44 pmHagel is an insult to prove who is boss.
Comment by Ag80
This
JD (b63a52) — 2/21/2013 @ 8:46 pmYes, he’s sort of like William cohen, but much more obnoxious,sort of the way James Webb, turned out to be,
narciso (3fec35) — 2/21/2013 @ 8:58 pmJust know that the very first time Hagel does something really, really stupid, the media and Obama will go back to reminding us that he is a Republican.
JVW (4826a9) — 2/21/2013 @ 10:49 pmAnd as is the case with sequestration, just because Hagel was Obama’s idea and Obama’s choice Hagel won’t be Obama’s fault.
Steve57 (60a887) — 2/21/2013 @ 11:17 pmI found this commentary on Hagel’s confirmation by Paul Mirengoff at Powerline particularly on point. By way of background, the legislation he’s referring to is a GOP plan to give the federal departments and agencies discretion as to where the make the sequestration cuts so it’s not the “meat cleaver” approach Obama’s whining about.
Steve57 (60a887) — 2/22/2013 @ 4:59 amThe nondiscretion means 50% of the value of the value of the cuts to come form the defense budget. I don’t think where in the defense budget is specified.
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 2/22/2013 @ 1:03 pmHagel is for increasing benefits, reducing immediate readiness, and making long range plans at the excpense of immediate reasdiness. Plans do not involve any ground troops, or only involve equipment or dealing with the Far East.
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 2/22/2013 @ 1:05 pmPaul Krugman’s take on the sequester:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/22/opinion/krugman-sequester-of-fools.html?ref=opinion&pagewanted=all&_r=0
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 2/22/2013 @ 1:06 pmKrugman:
Talk about missing the point;
http://theweek.com/article/index/240394/the-hagel-pinata
narciso (3fec35) — 2/22/2013 @ 1:17 pmRead up today, FWIW in Time magazine(snap visit to my physician) on the F-35 Lightning II which I had conflated in my mind with the F-22 Raptor.
The former has been in production since 2005 and will be done with its design phase 20?? The latter has been in operation about as long but has yet to see action in battle.
They’re both worth something like $300 Million per copy. Add in maintenance costs and, who knows, $450M?
Don’t worry about the program tho, Congress coughed up $6 Billion just hours before passing sequester to build the 30 odd Lightnings to be delivered this year on the way to 2500 or some such.
Because all the versions ranges run from 600 miles down to 450, they fly to the battle in formation with tankers.
So we have to cut costs, keeping one carrier group in the Mediterranean. But really what difference can it possibly make? Like we’d use one to save an Ambassador or something.
gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 2/22/2013 @ 1:31 pmHagel has been confirmed, 58-41.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 2/26/2013 @ 3:19 pmYes, and of those 41, the ones who voted For Cloture will have a lot to answer for when Hagel becomes, in actuality, the folly that he is believed to be.
askeptic (b8ab92) — 2/26/2013 @ 3:24 pmIf he were to be Les Aspin, that would be a Best Case Scenario.
We are so screwed.
JD (b63a52) — 2/26/2013 @ 3:26 pmFWIW, in one mock battle one F-22 took out 4 F-16’s by itself. still, it would be nice to have more than a few dozen.
MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 2/26/2013 @ 3:37 pm