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2/14/2013

CNN Talking Heads Swoon Over Cop Killer

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 5:48 am

This video is a perfect example of why many think our society is collapsing.

Dorner is like a superhero! It’s like watching Django Unchained! It’s like a Denzel Washington movie! It’s exciting to watch!

But my personal favorite is probably:

Take the murderous rampage out of it. Would he have had a point?”

134 Responses to “CNN Talking Heads Swoon Over Cop Killer”

  1. Ding!

    509th Bob (4ae072)

  2. Dingbats on parade, informing our elites of the proper politically correct meme. How disgusting.

    509th Bob (4ae072)

  3. The question should be how was such a deranged nutball allowed to be a cop and a sailor in the first place. Instead these fools indulge insanity rather than asking what controls LAPD and the military have to stop maniacs like this POS from joining their ranks.

    Bugg (ba4ca9)

  4. Recall, the consent decree instituted by Tom Perez, on the LAPD, some years ago, for that answer.

    narciso (3fec35)

  5. Other than that Mrs. Lincoln, did you enjoy the play?

    dfbaskwill (ca54bb)

  6. At least we are spared the atrocity that would be a trial of Mr. Dorner, like that of Army Major Hassan…Oh, wait, the tough on guns Obama Administration hasn’t bothered to actually put this workplace violence animal on trial despite having of over 3 years to do so. Which is the core problem; laws are only much good if you really enforce them. Otherwise Obama’s hometown would be heavn on earth instead of Murder City.

    Bugg (ba4ca9)

  7. Kmart will be along any minute to tell us that just because the left is swooning over Dorner is no reason whatsoever to believe the left loves terrorists.

    None.

    Whatsoever.

    And Bill Ayers’ friend in the WH will reiterate that point.

    Steve57 (60a887)

  8. Just like ‘there’s no cannibalism in the British navy, and by none, I mean a little’

    narciso (3fec35)

  9. Buy your next Che Guevara t-shirt at the next Organizing For Action event where you can sign a petition to support Dorner and work toward the downfall of capitalism, but don’t you DARE draw any conclusions.

    Steve57 (60a887)

  10. Not surprising, Lamont cowrote a book with the previous lefty fave murderer, Mumia Abu Jamal

    narciso (3fec35)

  11. “Take the murderous rampage out of it. Would he have had a point?”

    So can we now openly admire Hitler’s good points? I mean, really, take Hitler’s murderous rampages out of it, and he was a such a nice, dog loving, vegetarian political philosopher, nicht wahr?

    Fred Z (80a49d)

  12. I’m reminded of The Bridges At Toko Ri. And not in a good way.

    “Take the murderous rampage out of it. Would he have had a point?”

    Where do we find such men?

    Steve57 (60a887)

  13. So can we now openly admire Hitler’s good points? I mean, really, take Hitler’s murderous rampages out of it, and he was a such a nice, dog loving, vegetarian political philosopher, nicht wahr

    Is that a racist slam at our dog eating Preezy?

    It’s a white eurocentric presumption to assume “dog loving” equates to virtue.

    Besides it completely invalidates the crispy goodness of the meat of the one animal you’re likely to have on hand in any crisis situation.

    Or on any occasion, really. It’s not just for breakfast.

    Steve57 (60a887)

  14. Liberalism is an induced mental disease and the proof is in your face, on TV every day, delivered to your home in High Definition. All you need is the same independent power of observation the little boy displayed when the King showed off his fancy new clothes.

    ropelight (5cc6b1)

  15. Nope, even if his complaint had some basis in fact, regarding hotel incident, or abstract “fact” of suspected LAPD wrongness and incompetence.

    Sacred honor only compelled him to tell the truth when the truth could be used as a weapon.

    Not when he was interviewed about use of force on the scene. Not when he filed his report. Not behind the scenes to anyone he trusted.

    In the light most favorable to himself he saved it up for negating criticism of himself and punishing the person he held responsible.

    You can’t trust a cop like that on the force. He won’t tell the truth for the sake of the truth or because rules matter or people matter – but because HE matters and you better not cross him.

    They were right to kick him out, even if it wasn’t really clear to them that he was unbalanced and pathologically narcissistic.

    He was a probationary period officer who had never done really well and always an irritation because of his manner of dealing with others and rules.

    SarahW (b0e533)

  16. “Take the murderous rampage out of it. Would he have had a point?”

    If you take the “murderous rampage out of it,” as in “ignore,” you’ve got Chris “Tingles” Matthews college wardrobe.

    Lessee. Here’s the Mao T-Shirt, the Che T-Shirt…

    Steve57 (60a887)

  17. All aboard the crazy train!

    mojo (8096f2)

  18. Take the murderous rampage out and Dorner was a celebrity-obsessed Democrat who felt he had been mistreated. That’s why the media wants to talk about how he was treated instead of what he did.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  19. Too many Democrats can identify with Dorner. This is America’s future when entitled people don’t get what they thnk they are entitled to.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  20. He’s been hoarding up grievances since babyhood.

    But then, Dems have proved suckers for narcissists.

    SarahW (b0e533)

  21. Take the murderous rampage out and Dorner was a celebrity-obsessed Democrat who felt he had been mistreated. That’s why the media wants to talk about how he was treated instead of what he did.

    Comment by DRJ (a83b8b) — 2/14/2013 @ 7:21 am

    This

    JD (516dcc)

  22. DRJ, one of the reasons I left Kali is that there are too many entitlement-mentality leftists who still think that Prop 13 is screwing people who deserve the money more than the person who made it. It was publicly expressed in terms like:

    “I wouldn’t want to be old, white, and a homeowner in California.”

    It was meant as a threat then, and I don’t doubt you can still get a rag in Kali to print it now.

    I didn’t look at my move to Tejas from Kali as running away. They will follow. I was just establishing a more defensible position.

    Steve57 (60a887)

  23. I occasionally (just occasionally) will pause and wonder if I lay it on too thick about the idiocy and insanity of folks of the left–of pampered liberals like those at CNN. But then they’ll do or say something that not only justifies my disdain and cynicism towards them, but they’ll do or say something that, if anything, overwhelms the most negative classical stereotypes associated with them.

    But I could somewhat tolerate the crud they dish out if they at least — at least — didn’t fall for the notion that their compassion, humaneness and generosity are so wonderful, so intact, so much higher than that of their political opposites.

    Mark (b40cf0)

  24. The question should be how was such a deranged nutball allowed to be a cop and a sailor in the first place.

    See: History of Nidal Hasan and the US military.

    Mark (b40cf0)

  25. If all Attorney General Eric Holder is charging Major Nidal Hasan with is workplace violence, then Chris Dorner would have likely only been held responsible for a series of acts of civil disobedience.

    ropelight (5cc6b1)

  26. Short answer is we get saddled with them.

    The question should be how was such a deranged nutball allowed to be a cop and a sailor in the first place.

    Insisting upon standards would be racist.

    As in me: “Hey, this guy’s a nutjob.”

    Response: “racist.”

    To the Navy’s credit this guy got kicked out of every decent community. But still, I have to ask, what was he doing there in the first place? And the only answer I can come up with is “meeting a recruiter’s quota.”

    Steve57 (60a887)

  27. While they claim that the Right is violent, (projection) the reality is that it is the Left who inspire and admire violence. Fortunately the scum we have are without the fortitude to deliver it – except via their schizophrenic s.

    SPQR (675032)

  28. Next time someone lefty talking head asks if Christopher Dorner had a point, the best response might be, “I don’t know. Did Jared Loughner have a point? Should we ask Congresswoman Giffords about that?”

    JVW (4826a9)

  29. I have heard some timid attempts to tell the truth about his manifesto, reporting how he loved the liberal broadcasters. Strangely enough, they haven’t even mentioned how loved Obama and Mrs. Obama’s new bangs.

    Or that his first two victims were black.

    Patricia (3012f2)

  30. Misunderstood Leaders from History:

    Mussolini made the trains run on-time;
    Hitler built the Autobahn.

    What more is there to say; except,
    Can’t we all just get along?

    askeptic (b8ab92)

  31. Just heard on the radio that Dorner’s mother (and maybe father?) have issued a statement. I was pleased to hear that they are very quick to express sorrow for what he has done, and it doesn’t sound like they are placing much credence in his claims of racism.

    JVW (4826a9)

  32. “Take the murderous rampage out of it. Would he have had a point?”

    What difference, at this point, does it make?

    Without the murderous rampage, he wouldn’t be on anybody’s radar screen. D’oh!

    Just another nutter with a grievance against the man.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  33. Since Dorner was fired under the Bratton regime, what does this say about his vaunted out-reach to minorities?

    askeptic (b8ab92)

  34. If Barack Obama had a son, he would look like Chris Dorner.

    Ipso Fatso (1e3278)

  35. 34. Without the murderous rampage, he wouldn’t be on anybody’s radar screen. D’oh!

    Just another nutter with a grievance against the man.

    Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 2/14/2013 @ 10:22 am

    Dude, they’re the most trusted name in news!

    Steve57 (60a887)

  36. Comment by Steve57 (60a887) — 2/14/2013 @ 12:09 pm

    It seems that “they’re” is now a contraction for “they were”.

    askeptic (b8ab92)

  37. cnn is very flummoxed as to how so so many of their obamawhore viewers adopted a gun-toter as a hero when they’ve been repeatedly telling them that guns are of the devil

    this is forcing Zucker and the other cnn propaganda sluts to begin to explore the idea that *perhaps* Piers Morgan is not as persuasive as previously thought

    it’s just a very awkward situation over there

    happyfeet (4bf7c2)

  38. CNN = Completely Nattering Nabobs

    PCD (1d8b6d)

  39. 32, askeptic. The Volkswagen Beetle was Hitler’s brain child for the Autobahn.

    PCD (1d8b6d)

  40. 31, Patricia, Dorner’s first victim, Ms. Quan, was Asian.

    PCD (1d8b6d)

  41. The Volkswagen Beetle was Hitler’s brain child for the Autobahn.
    Comment by PCD (1d8b6d) — 2/14/2013 @ 12:34 pm

    “Volkswagon” = “people’s car”
    I saw a real old version, leather(?- not metal) doors with clear plastic for windows. Made a “Smart Car” look about as durable as a Humvee. It was parked near the UPenn campus.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  42. It is good that despite being a cop killer and a daughter- and- fiance- revenge killer, and a deputy killer he did not harm the cabin couple or the guy with his dalmation when it would have been easy for him to do so. It could’ve been much worse and gone on much much longer if he had not chosen to just tie up the couple (who eventually got free and alerted police to his whereabouts). I hope Dotner’s parents can take some minor solace in those large important choices of his that showed some degree of humanity and compassion near the very end of his rampage.

    elissa (ffaaed)

  43. Has anyone seen Obama’s statement about Chris Kyle’s death?

    Here’s his statement about Whitney Houston’s:

    Obama Issues Statement, Prayer For Whitney Houston’s Family

    Just sayin’.

    Steve57 (60a887)

  44. ==it’s just a very awkward situation over there==

    I think I heard somewhere that Candy Crowley is verklempt and threatening to go on a hunger strike. Or maybe I just imagined it.

    elissa (ffaaed)

  45. 46- Time to sell those Pork Belly Futures.

    askeptic (b8ab92)

  46. What have the bloody Romans ever done for us?

    pdbuttons (cc39cf)

  47. So old ladies picketing over their high taxes are ‘Teabagging terrorists’ but a twisted serial killer is a culture warrior ’cause some of his beliefs are cool.

    Ya know, I’ma just gonna let foaming dogs writhe, this time.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  48. 48. What have the bloody Romans ever done for us?

    Comment by pdbuttons (cc39cf) — 2/14/2013 @ 12:59 pm

    Besides, what? Passed down their laws.

    I think we need to be asking, what have we done for the bloody Romans?

    Steve57 (60a887)

  49. Did someone say my name?

    SPQR (768505)

  50. That’s a gimme line, ain’t it;

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExWfh6sGyso

    narciso (3fec35)

  51. Dorner would have been just fine if the world had not been stacked against him from birth, or something. I mean not everybody has the opportunity to be a naval officer and a police officer only to have those opportunities cruelly yanked away from you through no fault of your own except for your own actions.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  52. THey make some good points here,

    http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=34165

    narciso (3fec35)

  53. Extended Debate on Hagel has not been closed.
    Cloture FAILED!

    askeptic (b8ab92)

  54. Hey, if Hitler hadn’t murdered all those jews, would his government have been so bad?

    Jcw46 (f33482)

  55. The media making martyrs out of murderers does more damage than weak gun control laws, violent video games and “targets” on maps put together.

    But that point is probably lost on them.

    JohnT (7b9848)

  56. Take Pol Pot’s genocide out of it, would he have had some good points?

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  57. If you take Idi Amin’s mass murder, torture, cannibalism, self-dealing, etc., he might have had some good points.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  58. He was a spiffy dresser.

    narciso (3fec35)

  59. If you take the slaughter of innocent men, women and children out of it, liberal logic probably says Palestinian suicide bombers have a few good points.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  60. daleyrocks, well since they are Jooooos, the liberals even will leave that slaughter in “it”.

    SPQR (768505)

  61. SPQR – Well, the State Department is run by Jooooos according to Hagel, which doesn’t explain much.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  62. 55. I’m pleasantly surprised. ‘Spose Collins and McLame voted with the Dhimmis again. King, maybe not?

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  63. Soviet Hill Blog:

    Four Republicans — Sens. Susan Collins (Maine), Thad Cochran (Miss.), Lisa Murkowski (Alaska) and Mike Johanns (Neb.)— joined 55 Democrats and Independents in supporting the nomination. Sixty votes were needed to cut off debate, leaving Democrats one vote short.

    The final 58-40 tally reflected a no vote from Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), who switched his vote from yes to preserve his ability to bring up the nomination again.

    Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) voted present and Sen. David Vitter (R-La.) missed the vote.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  64. gotta love lisa. she never always disappoints.

    elissa (ffaaed)

  65. Ok, I can sort of understand Johanns because they’re from the same state, not really, but why is Cochran, doing the best impression of a catfish.

    narciso (3fec35)

  66. Soviet Hill Blog

    Love it.

    I trust Obama when he says he believes in the constitution.

    Likewise Sotomayer.

    The question is, which one?

    Steve57 (60a887)

  67. I wonder when the Idiot CNN Talking heads will be “swooning” over creatures like the perpetrators of the 2007 Christian-Newsom torture-murders in Knoxville, Tennessee.

    DN (d1a4f3)

  68. The slaughter of innocents aside, Timothy McVeigh was really onto something.

    Lets take murdering a doctor in his place of worship out of it, Scott Roeder had some valid grievances, didn’t he?

    I don’t tweet, but someone who does should ask this blowhard those questions.

    Eff Dorner. If you want to talk about police misconduct in connection with Dorner, the LAPD gave them a few things to talk about during the manhunt, specifically, will there be any charges against any of the officers who were involved in the two pick-up truck shootings?

    But no, we shouldn’t care about dorner’s grievances. The man was evil. We should care about the innocent victims grievances, not the evil ones.

    They’re only encouraging more manifesto wielding psychos.

    Ghost (2d8874)

  69. Except he didn’t have any legitimate grievance, save it for when there is one.

    narciso (3fec35)

  70. CBS has audio recordings of the police yelling out that they should burn down the cabin that Dorner had occupied.

    No too long after that, they hurled CS-gas canisters into the cabin .. you know .. the ones that have a history of starting fires and burning down structures like the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, TX … and true to their history, they caused the cabin to become engulf in flames.

    Of course, the local sheriff is claiming that they didn’t want to burn down the cabin, but … nudge, nudge, know what I mean, say no more

    I’m left feeling that there may not be any “good guys” in this story.

    Neo (d1c681)

  71. Oh, I thought Monica’s mother was black.

    So his first victims were minorities.

    Patricia (b80cb3)

  72. Dorner is like a superhero! It’s like watching Django Unchained! It’s like a Denzel Washington movie

    No, It’s Die Hard – complete with the cop who doesn’t quite follow the rules.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  73. Dorner didn’t have any kids right, so no Ignited Negro College Fund?

    Yes, I denounce myself.

    R.I.P. Richard Pryor

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  74. But Bruce Willlis in the movie was more competent.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  75. Dorner didn’t have any kids right

    In fact, that’s the reason he said he killed the daughter of the lawyer who didn’t defend him successfully.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  76. Look, he gunned down some guy’s daughter. And her fiancee. Both of whom apparently didn’t even know about this guy’s grudge against the LAPD. Or the Nav, if there is one.

    If you’re trying to get my vote for the “ambush people out of the nearest bush to fight against race hatred” ticket this ain’t the way to do it.

    Steve57 (60a887)

  77. This is only a tragedy, that’s all.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  78. What Dorner did didn’t make any sense whether he was in the wrong or in the right in his case. So that porobably wasn’t his motive. getting his brain preserved for science (to study depression) maybe that was his motive. If he just committed suicide, what reason would anybody have to preserve his brain?

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  79. 79.What Dorner did didn’t make any sense whether he was in the wrong or in the right in his case. So that porobably wasn’t his motive. getting his brain preserved for science (to study depression) maybe that was his motive. If he just committed suicide, what reason would anybody have to preserve his brain?

    Comment by Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 2/14/2013 @ 4:44 pm

    Sammy, at this juncture the only thing more tragic than the cops missing the target is you missing the point.

    Steve57 (60a887)

  80. Sammy,

    If Dorner wanted to preserve his brain, wouldn’t he have run outside to be killed or captured — as opposed to staying inside to be burned? After all, he was experienced in police tactics. He knew the police were using and/or were going to use tear gas, and he also knew it tends to ignite when deployed inside.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  81. if that’s all there is my friends then let’s keep dancing

    happyfeet (4bf7c2)

  82. “If Dorner wanted to preserve his brain, wouldn’t he have run outside to be killed or captured — as opposed to staying inside to be burned?”

    DRJ – Fire doesn’t melt brains!!!!!!!11ty!!!!!!!

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  83. If the cops’ tactics were designed considering the possibility of an OJ jury, they were probably pretty close.

    Richard Aubrey (a79e47)

  84. If Barack Obama had a son, he would look like Chris Dorner.

    Comment by Ipso Fatso (1e3278) — 2/14/2013 @ 12:06 pm

    The winner.

    AZ Bob (c11d35)

  85. If Barack Obama had a wife, she would look like Chris Dorner. Oooopsssss, he already does.

    peedoffamerican (ee1de0)

  86. What an improvement
    They went from Stalin and Mao
    To Chris Dorner fans

    Colonel Haiku (61a8ce)

  87. Taking the murderous rampage out of it, it would be irresponsible to let the Dorner crisis go to waste and not open a conversation on police brutality and corruption even though there is no credible evidence police corruption and brutality played a role in Dorner’s dismissal from the LAPD and such a conversation would be an insult to the victims of Dorner’s murderous rampage and appear to be a defense of such murderous rampage in spite of fervent denials otherwise.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  88. From my casual news observation of this unfolding fiasco I still haven’t been inclined to learn the Kali Kops have fielded anyone who can make a brain shot on this guy.

    Or a heart shot. Or any kind of shot.

    Watching this unfold has been painful. What the hell are you guys paying these people for? Those are some expensive trucks. I guess it costs a lot of money to pay for a regime that has to pay for the mistakes of people who shoot up old hispanic women.

    Steve57 (60a887)

  89. “Take the murderous rampage out of it. Would he have had a point?”

    Not really. Anders Breivik, on the other hand…

    j curtis (631f3e)

  90. j curtis,

    could you elaborate?

    EPWJ (1cedce)

  91. 93, EPWJ, I think Breivik is the Norweigian mass murder on trial now. Again, no one else had guns or other weapons to stop him and punch his ticket to HELL.

    PCD (1d8b6d)

  92. 33. Just heard on the radio that Dorner’s mother (and maybe father?) have issued a statement. I was pleased to hear that they are very quick to express sorrow for what he has done, and it doesn’t sound like they are placing much credence in his claims of racism.

    Comment by JVW (4826a9) — 2/14/2013 @ 10:06 am

    I have nothing but sympathy for the parents. You can do all you can for a kid and that doesn’t mean he’s going to turn into your hopes and dreams.

    Steve57 (60a887)

  93. Some LA politicians are looking for a way to weasel out of paying the reward. It turns out the cleaning ladies, husband and wife Jim and Karen Reynolds, have the most direct claim to the big bucks.

    However, some short-sighted authorities are now saying the reward was for information leading to Dorner’s apprehension and conviction. But since he was never apprehended or convicted no reward should be paid.

    Anyway, the matter is pending and it won’t be long before it’s sorted out, likely in the Reynolds’ favor.

    ropelight (1f1b9d)

  94. As if the LAPD ever had any intention of pulling off an “apprehension and conviction”.
    He had a very slim chance of ever seeing a booking-officer (not that that’s a bad thing).

    askeptic (b8ab92)

  95. Comment by DRJ (a83b8b) — 2/14/2013 @ 5:10 pm

    Sammy,

    If Dorner wanted to preserve his brain, wouldn’t he have run outside to be killed or captured — as opposed to staying inside to be burned? After all, he was experienced in police tactics. He knew the police were using and/or were going to use tear gas, and he also knew it tends to ignite when deployed inside.

    I think he knew they are supposed to try to hit the brain but he didn”t know about tear gas starting fires.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  96. He ran back.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  97. If he didn’t know about the propensity of tear-gas projectiles to start fires in wooden structures, he was a moron, and the gene-pool is well rid of him.

    askeptic (b8ab92)

  98. I think he knew they are supposed to try to hit the brain but he didn”t know about tear gas starting fires.

    Comment by Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 2/15/2013 @ 1:55 pm

    Hay-zeus, Sammy, it’s called center of mass.

    No cops are trained to hit the brain.

    Steve57 (60a887)

  99. j curtis,

    could you elaborate?

    Comment by EPWJ (1cedce) — 2/15/2013 @ 5:29 am

    Breivik seemed to have a point that he detailed in his manifesto. The Dorner character had some hints of accusations that he failed to lay out in his manifesto. It doesn’t reach the level of “a point”, imo.

    Wouldn’t you agree?

    j curtis (631f3e)

  100. Let’s open this question up to hunters to get more shooters involved.

    Who the **** brain shoots an animal? Outside of an elephant, which has the skull the size of a Honda Accord. And I will grant you isn’t likely to swivel it around to offer you an elusive target.

    But hold up your hands, how many of you brain shot your last deer or elk?

    Look, I’d like to think I’m such a dead-eye I can put one between the eyes of someone bobbing and weaving between the trees on the slopes of Big Bear (although I’d eat my laptop if I couldn’t put the sneak on the guy and get within 100 yards, as any hog in my freezer will tell you).

    In all likelihood I’d just take the percentage shot to the chest.

    Steve57 (60a887)

  101. Hey, Steve, you know what they call someone who goes against the percentages in a gunfight?

    DEAD!

    askeptic (b8ab92)

  102. j curtis

    what point was that? he killed children, children including two cousins of his

    EPWJ (1cedce)

  103. Breivik, wanted to prove that Moslem extremists murder innocents, so he went about replicating the deeds.

    narciso (3fec35)

  104. The point is, that both Breivik and Dorner are/were psychopaths, the former particularly so as he meticulously planned a mass-murder of innocents who had done him no harm, in an environment that he knew offered him the least resistance.

    askeptic (b8ab92)

  105. Steve, it wasn’t a deer or an elk, but I hit a flying scobie duck in the noggin with a BB pistol from 30 feet. Knocked ‘em silly, he took about 20 minutes to shake it off and be on his way.

    If I don’t keep ‘em on the move the cheeky devils homestead the birdbath.

    ropelight (1f1b9d)

  106. 108. Steve, it wasn’t a deer or an elk, but I hit a flying scobie duck in the noggin with a BB pistol from 30 feet. Knocked ‘em silly, he took about 20 minutes to shake it off and be on his way.

    If I don’t keep ‘em on the move the cheeky devils homestead the birdbath.

    Comment by ropelight (1f1b9d) — 2/15/2013 @ 3:22 pm

    I left birds out because of the “golden BB.”

    Which, as your story attests, isn’t always lethal.

    Besides, you’re supposed to point a shotgun. Not aim it. And was wishing to discuss aimed shots.

    Steve57 (60a887)

  107. Aimed shots. You know. The kind they don’t teach at the police academy.

    Steve57 (60a887)

  108. Crispy News Network

    Colonel Haiku (74a839)

  109. Breivik, wanted to prove that Moslem extremists murder innocents, so he went about replicating the deeds.

    Comment by narciso (3fec35) — 2/15/2013 @ 2:56 pm

    I dont think that was why he did it, after he just grabbed some rifles and 3ent on a killing spree, thats the excuse he used

    EPWJ (1cedce)

  110. I have very little listening skills when people say they were just “insert blank here” after they had committed some worldwide atrocity.

    Especially in the almost justificationism that some comments could be contrued as when saying of this guy was upset so he killed children.

    EPWJ (1cedce)

  111. the parallel is both had something to say, but they wrote it in blood, ironically, Breivik’s politics are all that matter, whereas Dorner’s is just beside the point,

    narciso (3fec35)

  112. Steve, it was a BB pistol, a compressed air powered semi-auto Beretta M9 replica. Believe me, no scobie duck hit in the head with any shotgun at 30 feet, no matter what gauge, is going to survive the encounter.

    I learned all about that sort of thing in my wasted youth hanging out with a 30″ full choke 12 gauge Ithaca pump loaded with #4s and trying to keep warm and stay vigilant while sitting on hard wooden benches in deep water duck blinds on the rivers and in the marshes of Tidewater Virginia just north of the Carolina line with over 100 decoys out in weather so wet, cold, and blustery it was blowin’ the oysters off the rocks.

    And, although those days are long ago and far behind me now, it’s just not something I could forget about even if I wanted to.

    ropelight (1f1b9d)

  113. Why would you want to forget about that? It sounds awesome.

    JD (805f82)

  114. ropelight, it sounds like one hell of a shot. I never made anything like it.

    Steve57 (60a887)

  115. Steve, it was a lucky shot, and it scared the dickins out of me because I thought I’d killed the damn thing and would have to eat it.

    JD, it was awesome, but after picking up the decoys from icy cold water and wrapping up the anchor lines my hands would be so cold and stiff I couldn’t push the button on the door handle of a ’54 Ford to get inside and turn on the heater.

    Sometimes my lips would get so chapped I’d have to use oil from the dipstick if I couldn’t find a tube of Chapstick.

    There’s lots more, I could go on and on, but then I’d have to take a bunch of guff again about things that fall outside the experience of most guys, like bribing old timers with packs of red Pell Mells to sit in the sun on screened-in front porches and tell tall tales about what it was like in the old days, or like finding the names and initials of famous men carved into the duck blind’s weathered planks, or of enjoying great meals and wild nights in the comfort of a robber baron’s island hunting lodge while storm winds raged and blew up breaking waves on the shallow bays and made any attempted crossing in a small open duck boat a life and death proposition.

    It’s just too much for most guys to credit without some sort of proof and I don’t have any, other than the say so of the few guys still around who were there too, and they don’t comment on blogs as far as I know.

    ropelight (1f1b9d)

  116. 118. Why would you want to forget about that? It sounds awesome.

    Comment by JD (805f82) — 2/15/2013 @ 6:29 pm

    I was thinking it was just some lucky shot from your standard smoothbore bb gun.

    Steve57 (60a887)

  117. ropelight, I think the one thing we all have in common is that we’ve done something no one will believe without pics.

    Steve57 (60a887)

  118. What’s a scobie duck? Some kind of coot? It must be an east coast thing.

    Steve57 (60a887)

  119. “ropelight, I think the one thing we all have in common is that we’ve done something no one will believe without pics.”

    Steve57 – One problem I’ve got is somebody got pictures of a couple of those things and refuses to turn them over IYKWIMAITTYD.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  120. hey chris cuomo won a daytime emmy award just like susan lucci so you all can suck it

    happyfeet (acd614)

  121. Steve, the scobie duck or Moscovy duck is the Cairina Moschata Domestica. They’re large and ugly, males go about 15 pounds and females about half that. They have black shiny body feathers with varying amounts of white on the head and neck.

    From Wikipedia: The domestic subspecies is commonly known in Spanish as the pato criollo (“creole duck”). They have been bred since pre-Columbian times by Native Americans and are heavier and less able to fly long distances than the wild subspecies. Their plumage color are also more variable. Other names for the domestic subspecies in Spanish are pato casero (“backyard duck”) and pato mudo (“mute duck”).

    ropelight (1f1b9d)

  122. j curtis

    what point was that? he killed children, children including two cousins of his

    Comment by EPWJ (1cedce) — 2/15/2013 @ 2:52 pm

    Non sequitur regarding “the point”. Also, I think it’s more of a fantasy on your part about any children being killed in that attack.

    j curtis (631f3e)

  123. Comment by EPWJ (1cedce) — 2/15/2013 @ 2:52 pm

    By the way, children are victims of many terrorist attacks and most terrorist attacks have a point. Do you have to agree with the motives of an attack before you could agree that the attack had a “point”? 0/11 had a point. Unibomber had a point. Breivik had a point. Aurora, New Town and this guy in California didn’t have much of a point that I can see.

    j curtis (631f3e)

  124. most terrorist attacks have a point

    not really, not at all, its just nasty murder.

    Saying someone had a point is leading down a road to justifiction or admiration.

    The guy went into a childrens camp and murdered them them, including his own relatives.

    but they wrote it in blood, ironically, Breivik’s politics are all that matter

    No, both were narc’s and sought publicity and these very discussions that people are having – admirationism, justification, etc.

    Just so sad to see it here

    EPWJ (1cedce)

  125. ropelight, thanks for the explanation. I’ve been a duck hunter going on half a century now and I’ve never heard that colloquialism.

    I’m certain it’s my loss we never shared a blind or stretch of trout stream.

    Steve57 (60a887)

  126. Steve, you’re too kind. I’m always happy to learn from someone who knows what he’s going on about, and like all accomplished hunters and fishermen I especially enjoy it when helpful pals point out in detail just how wrong I do things.

    ropelight (001d9c)

  127. narciso, I thought I posted a note here yesterday to thank you for the link to This Ain’t Hell. I was so impressed I added it to my list of favorites. Anyway, Thanks.

    ropelight (a285c3)

  128. You’re welcome ropelight,

    narciso (3fec35)


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