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		<title>By: narciso</title>
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		<dc:creator>narciso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 14:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;We&#039;re through the looking glass here, people;


http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/02/10/candy-crowley-asks-panel-if-they-were-offended-conservative-doctors-p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;We&#8217;re through the looking glass here, people;</p>
<p><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/02/10/candy-crowley-asks-panel-if-they-were-offended-conservative-doctors-p" rel="nofollow">http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/02/10/candy-crowley-asks-panel-if-they-were-offended-conservative-doctors-p</a></p>
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		<title>By: bobathome</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobathome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 06:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been reading Carson&#039;s book, &lt;i&gt;America the Beautiful&lt;/i&gt;, and parts of his prayer breakfast talk are nearly verbatim to the book.  So there&#039;s no possibility that his subject matter and his delivery were unforeseeable.  In fact, I thought it was interesting that Michele clapped rather enthusiastically at a number of his points.  But hte one was nonplussed.  The book is readable, and it will refresh your memory of American history.  And so far nothing too PC in that history ... he does mention that European diseases devasted native Americans, but he doesn&#039;t imply a conspiracy as some of our more ambitous academics are apt to do.  That&#039;s just the way things were before Pastuer.  I am looking forward to his comments on our current state of affairs.

And picking up on Tanney&#039;s point to davem about UK health care, there was an incident last summer where a patient, Kane Gorny, 22, in a UK teaching hospital called the police to try and get his nurses to give him some water.  The police arrived, talked to the nurses, and told him he was being taken care of correctly and don&#039;t bother to call them again.  About 8 hours later he died of dehydration.  Look it up davem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been reading Carson&#8217;s book, <i>America the Beautiful</i>, and parts of his prayer breakfast talk are nearly verbatim to the book.  So there&#8217;s no possibility that his subject matter and his delivery were unforeseeable.  In fact, I thought it was interesting that Michele clapped rather enthusiastically at a number of his points.  But hte one was nonplussed.  The book is readable, and it will refresh your memory of American history.  And so far nothing too PC in that history &#8230; he does mention that European diseases devasted native Americans, but he doesn&#8217;t imply a conspiracy as some of our more ambitous academics are apt to do.  That&#8217;s just the way things were before Pastuer.  I am looking forward to his comments on our current state of affairs.</p>
<p>And picking up on Tanney&#8217;s point to davem about UK health care, there was an incident last summer where a patient, Kane Gorny, 22, in a UK teaching hospital called the police to try and get his nurses to give him some water.  The police arrived, talked to the nurses, and told him he was being taken care of correctly and don&#8217;t bother to call them again.  About 8 hours later he died of dehydration.  Look it up davem.</p>
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		<title>By: MD in Philly</title>
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		<dc:creator>MD in Philly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 04:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I looked at this, I thought it was a National Prayer Breakfast talk, not a doctoral dissertation defense on differing models of financing health care...
 
Dr. Carson &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;was&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; being polite.  He is a strong pro-life, sanctity of life advocate and had he had a mind to, he would have &quot;taken a scalpel to Obama&#039;s knife fight&quot; and taken it to President Infanticide&#039;s record.  What Dr. Carson said was pretty predictable for anyone who bothered to research him.  Anyone who didn&#039;t like it, whine to the people on Obama&#039;s team who agreed to it. 

Dr. Carson is a very gifted surgeon and does what he is good at, for people I&#039;m sure who can pay or not.

As I wrote before, he was 1/2 inch away of being locked up as a juvenile delinquent when his life was turned around.

I heard of Ben Carson more than 20 years ago, heard him in person give a talk in 1993.

Ben Carson I know, his detractors should humbly sit down, shut up, and learn something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I looked at this, I thought it was a National Prayer Breakfast talk, not a doctoral dissertation defense on differing models of financing health care&#8230;</p>
<p>Dr. Carson <i><b>was</b></i> being polite.  He is a strong pro-life, sanctity of life advocate and had he had a mind to, he would have &#8220;taken a scalpel to Obama&#8217;s knife fight&#8221; and taken it to President Infanticide&#8217;s record.  What Dr. Carson said was pretty predictable for anyone who bothered to research him.  Anyone who didn&#8217;t like it, whine to the people on Obama&#8217;s team who agreed to it. </p>
<p>Dr. Carson is a very gifted surgeon and does what he is good at, for people I&#8217;m sure who can pay or not.</p>
<p>As I wrote before, he was 1/2 inch away of being locked up as a juvenile delinquent when his life was turned around.</p>
<p>I heard of Ben Carson more than 20 years ago, heard him in person give a talk in 1993.</p>
<p>Ben Carson I know, his detractors should humbly sit down, shut up, and learn something.</p>
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		<title>By: Tanny O'Haley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tanny O'Haley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 04:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DaveM,

This is what happens when you let the government run health care.&lt;blockquote&gt;The Sunday Telegraph understands that the report on Stafford hospital, where up to 1,200 people died needlessly in appalling conditions, will call for an overhaul of regulation to ensure poor managers are weeded out, and better training for nurses and healthcare assistants.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Here&#039;s a series of articles on the subject. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/category/annals-of-government-medicine&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Annals of Government Medicine&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DaveM,</p>
<p>This is what happens when you let the government run health care.<br />
<blockquote>The Sunday Telegraph understands that the report on Stafford hospital, where up to 1,200 people died needlessly in appalling conditions, will call for an overhaul of regulation to ensure poor managers are weeded out, and better training for nurses and healthcare assistants.</p></blockquote>
<p>Here&#8217;s a series of articles on the subject. <a href="http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/category/annals-of-government-medicine" rel="nofollow">Annals of Government Medicine</a> </p>
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		<title>By: Ag80</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ag80</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 04:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know how to control medical costs. 1964.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know how to control medical costs. 1964.</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
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		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 04:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hesitate to even ask, because iamadimwit is so douchey, but what do you think are the main problems, and how ObamaCare, or your goal of single payer, will fix them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hesitate to even ask, because iamadimwit is so douchey, but what do you think are the main problems, and how ObamaCare, or your goal of single payer, will fix them.</p>
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		<title>By: DaveM</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaveM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 04:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m telling you out of pocket spending is not the problem so I&#039;m not worried about controlling it. But it would be nice to reduce costs for those folks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m telling you out of pocket spending is not the problem so I&#8217;m not worried about controlling it. But it would be nice to reduce costs for those folks.</p>
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		<title>By: SPQR</title>
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		<dc:creator>SPQR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 04:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DaveM, so you really are without a clue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DaveM, so you really are without a clue.</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
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		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 03:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iamadimwit - how many different names are you up to now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iamadimwit &#8211; how many different names are you up to now?</p>
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		<title>By: DaveM</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaveM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 03:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If people “spend their own money”, that is counted in the healthcare fraction of GDP of our nation as well.&quot;

But people only have so much of their own money to spend. The problem isn&#039;t that too many people are paying out of pocket for Dr. Carson&#039;s neurosurgery. It should clue you in that this is not the problem that some people want to force more people to pay out pocket as part of their cost control plans.

&quot;DaveM, for instance, $10 billion of healthcare spending is plastic surgery. Almost all of it cosmetic. That’s counted in “healthcare” GDP. Do we have more than Israel per capita?&quot;

I don&#039;t know much about cosmetic surgery in Israel, but here health care spending is on the order of like 2.5 trillion. That 10 billion is cosmetic (whether out of pocket or not) isn&#039;t going to be a big factor in controlling costs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If people “spend their own money”, that is counted in the healthcare fraction of GDP of our nation as well.&#8221;</p>
<p>But people only have so much of their own money to spend. The problem isn&#8217;t that too many people are paying out of pocket for Dr. Carson&#8217;s neurosurgery. It should clue you in that this is not the problem that some people want to force more people to pay out pocket as part of their cost control plans.</p>
<p>&#8220;DaveM, for instance, $10 billion of healthcare spending is plastic surgery. Almost all of it cosmetic. That’s counted in “healthcare” GDP. Do we have more than Israel per capita?&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know much about cosmetic surgery in Israel, but here health care spending is on the order of like 2.5 trillion. That 10 billion is cosmetic (whether out of pocket or not) isn&#8217;t going to be a big factor in controlling costs.</p>
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