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		<title>By: Sammy Finkelman</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2013/02/04/open-thread-21/comment-page-6/#comment-1168929</link>
		<dc:creator>Sammy Finkelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 20:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the news this weekend: 

On September 11, 2012, Obama spent only half an hour in a pre-scheduled meeting discussing the events in Cairo and Benghazi (outgoing Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta estimated about 20 minutes of that meeting was devoted to that) but then he spent twice as much time (1 hour) on the telephone with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. 

Senator Lindsey Graham does not seem happy with this, and he wants a report on what President Obama did the rest of that night, which he thinks is nothing, or else he&#039;ll prevent a vote on the nominations of Chuck Hagel for Secretary of Defense and John Brennan for Director of the CIA.  

I think maybe he&#039;s trying any excuse to delay the confirmations of Hagel and Brennan, hoping something will come up.

Obama avoids or has avoided being photographed with Netanyahu, presumably because he thinks it will impact relationships with the Arab world, but now he is traveling to Israel for the first time since he became President. (He was there during the 2008 campaign)

Obama turned down a proposal to arm the rebels in Syria.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/08/us/politics/panetta-speaks-to-senate-panel-on-benghazi-attack.html

He was alone in his cabinet on this, only supported by some people in the CIA who probably were on the payroll of Saudi Arabia or Qatar, in my opinion. These moles later on managed to get rid of Petraeus.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the news this weekend: </p>
<p>On September 11, 2012, Obama spent only half an hour in a pre-scheduled meeting discussing the events in Cairo and Benghazi (outgoing Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta estimated about 20 minutes of that meeting was devoted to that) but then he spent twice as much time (1 hour) on the telephone with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. </p>
<p>Senator Lindsey Graham does not seem happy with this, and he wants a report on what President Obama did the rest of that night, which he thinks is nothing, or else he&#8217;ll prevent a vote on the nominations of Chuck Hagel for Secretary of Defense and John Brennan for Director of the CIA.  </p>
<p>I think maybe he&#8217;s trying any excuse to delay the confirmations of Hagel and Brennan, hoping something will come up.</p>
<p>Obama avoids or has avoided being photographed with Netanyahu, presumably because he thinks it will impact relationships with the Arab world, but now he is traveling to Israel for the first time since he became President. (He was there during the 2008 campaign)</p>
<p>Obama turned down a proposal to arm the rebels in Syria.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/08/us/politics/panetta-speaks-to-senate-panel-on-benghazi-attack.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/08/us/politics/panetta-speaks-to-senate-panel-on-benghazi-attack.html</a></p>
<p>He was alone in his cabinet on this, only supported by some people in the CIA who probably were on the payroll of Saudi Arabia or Qatar, in my opinion. These moles later on managed to get rid of Petraeus.</p>
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		<title>By: Roslyn</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2013/02/04/open-thread-21/comment-page-6/#comment-1168067</link>
		<dc:creator>Roslyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2013 18:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This website truly has all of the info I wanted about 
this subject and didn&#039;t know who to ask.

Stop by my page - &lt;a href=&quot;http://sus4.ch/site/guestbook/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Roslyn&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This website truly has all of the info I wanted about<br />
this subject and didn&#8217;t know who to ask.</p>
<p>Stop by my page &#8211; <a href="http://sus4.ch/site/guestbook/" rel="nofollow">Roslyn</a></p>
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		<title>By: htom</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2013/02/04/open-thread-21/comment-page-6/#comment-1164359</link>
		<dc:creator>htom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 22:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did anyone bookmark that post on some blog that listed all of the Federal agencies that are allowed to be armed, and the quantities of firearms and ammo they each have? I can&#039;t find it now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did anyone bookmark that post on some blog that listed all of the Federal agencies that are allowed to be armed, and the quantities of firearms and ammo they each have? I can&#8217;t find it now.</p>
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		<title>By: daleyrocks</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2013/02/04/open-thread-21/comment-page-6/#comment-1164296</link>
		<dc:creator>daleyrocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 21:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Adam B - Have you tried emailing Neblett Toure? He liked the Audi ad and he&#039;s about as progressive as you can get.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam B &#8211; Have you tried emailing Neblett Toure? He liked the Audi ad and he&#8217;s about as progressive as you can get.</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2013/02/04/open-thread-21/comment-page-6/#comment-1164254</link>
		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 21:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[222 The ad was insulting. Insulting to men and to women. What if a gay man came up to you, embraced you and gave you a big fat smooch. That would be cute, right? Not an invasion of your personal space or anything. Just a cute little fag kiss. Nothing to worry about. Hopefully you&#039;d have a male there to protect you, though. Idiots.

@ 223 Help me out here. Where do I draw the line? Can I go grab a chick&#039;s tits now? Is that cool? If she likes it, its cool. But if she doesn&#039;t, its assualt. I&#039;m a pretty big fan of defending every person&#039;s personal space. Even black people and women! I know, crazy shit, right?


And if I grab a girls tits or pinch her ass or, god forbid, frottage...and she likes it. Then we&#039;re all good.
And if the ad displayed some sort of representation of consent before the kiss, no problem.
But are we cool with the &quot;tit-grabbing and hoping she likes it&quot; society? I&#039;m alone in thinking that&#039;s wrong here?

I cannot imagine why your reception was less than warm.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>222 The ad was insulting. Insulting to men and to women. What if a gay man came up to you, embraced you and gave you a big fat smooch. That would be cute, right? Not an invasion of your personal space or anything. Just a cute little fag kiss. Nothing to worry about. Hopefully you&#8217;d have a male there to protect you, though. Idiots.</p>
<p>@ 223 Help me out here. Where do I draw the line? Can I go grab a chick&#8217;s tits now? Is that cool? If she likes it, its cool. But if she doesn&#8217;t, its assualt. I&#8217;m a pretty big fan of defending every person&#8217;s personal space. Even black people and women! I know, crazy shit, right?</p>
<p>And if I grab a girls tits or pinch her ass or, god forbid, frottage&#8230;and she likes it. Then we&#8217;re all good.<br />
And if the ad displayed some sort of representation of consent before the kiss, no problem.<br />
But are we cool with the &#8220;tit-grabbing and hoping she likes it&#8221; society? I&#8217;m alone in thinking that&#8217;s wrong here?</p>
<p>I cannot imagine why your reception was less than warm.</p>
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		<title>By: gary gulrud</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2013/02/04/open-thread-21/comment-page-6/#comment-1164198</link>
		<dc:creator>gary gulrud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 20:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ace&#039;s reply: Virtual wrap-around wedgie hung under the chin.

Go away Constance, you bother me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ace&#8217;s reply: Virtual wrap-around wedgie hung under the chin.</p>
<p>Go away Constance, you bother me.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam B</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2013/02/04/open-thread-21/comment-page-6/#comment-1164150</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 20:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You want my email to Ace? Oh boy. This really is surreal. But here you go:

&quot;I&#039;m sorry to write you personally about a post on your site but I am struck with almost paralyzing cognitive dissonance and I need your help. I agree with you on pretty much everything and where I disagree, it is a mere quibble. But I couldn&#039;t disagree more about the Audi advertisement. Here is what I wrote in the thread: [post] Am I way off base? What am I missing?&quot;

Not sure what you want that for, but there ya go!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You want my email to Ace? Oh boy. This really is surreal. But here you go:</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m sorry to write you personally about a post on your site but I am struck with almost paralyzing cognitive dissonance and I need your help. I agree with you on pretty much everything and where I disagree, it is a mere quibble. But I couldn&#8217;t disagree more about the Audi advertisement. Here is what I wrote in the thread: [post] Am I way off base? What am I missing?&#8221;</p>
<p>Not sure what you want that for, but there ya go!</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2013/02/04/open-thread-21/comment-page-6/#comment-1164144</link>
		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 20:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SPQR - it depends on whether or not you are a concerned Christian conservative.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SPQR &#8211; it depends on whether or not you are a concerned Christian conservative.</p>
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		<title>By: SPQR</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2013/02/04/open-thread-21/comment-page-6/#comment-1164132</link>
		<dc:creator>SPQR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 20:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And exactly how many angels &lt;b&gt;can&lt;/b&gt; dance on the head of a pin?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And exactly how many angels <b>can</b> dance on the head of a pin?</p>
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		<title>By: daleyrocks</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2013/02/04/open-thread-21/comment-page-6/#comment-1164130</link>
		<dc:creator>daleyrocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 20:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;So I wrote an email directly to Ace.&quot;

Adam B - Feel free to reproduce the email here.

How long do you believe the commercial needed to be to provide the context you believe you were missing apart from the context it already provided at the beginning. Was the context contained in  the commercial too subtle for you to grasp?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So I wrote an email directly to Ace.&#8221;</p>
<p>Adam B &#8211; Feel free to reproduce the email here.</p>
<p>How long do you believe the commercial needed to be to provide the context you believe you were missing apart from the context it already provided at the beginning. Was the context contained in  the commercial too subtle for you to grasp?</p>
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