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	<title>Comments on: Political Advice from an Amateur: Um, Republicans Might Want to Stop Saying They&#8217;re for a Government Shutdown</title>
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		<title>By: Dustin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 15:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;not giving the thumbs up to Obamaism but it does sorta straightjacket economic policy during downturns&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If you think the government needs to control the economy to limit our downturns, then you might not like the idea of limiting its ability to spend lots of money when we don&#039;t have any.  In my opinion, limiting the government a lot will lead to a more prosperous country.

Those states that really try to abide by a balanced budget don&#039;t have the kinds of downturns states that spend freely have.

And yes, there were presidential candidates calling for a balanced budget amendment.  Some to offer a stipulation for emergency spending with conditions on how to authorize it.  Personally, I would rather see contingencies saved for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>not giving the thumbs up to Obamaism but it does sorta straightjacket economic policy during downturns</p></blockquote>
<p>If you think the government needs to control the economy to limit our downturns, then you might not like the idea of limiting its ability to spend lots of money when we don&#8217;t have any.  In my opinion, limiting the government a lot will lead to a more prosperous country.</p>
<p>Those states that really try to abide by a balanced budget don&#8217;t have the kinds of downturns states that spend freely have.</p>
<p>And yes, there were presidential candidates calling for a balanced budget amendment.  Some to offer a stipulation for emergency spending with conditions on how to authorize it.  Personally, I would rather see contingencies saved for.</p>
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		<title>By: gary gulrud</title>
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		<dc:creator>gary gulrud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 12:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want environMentalists targetted for assassination.  I want DC Metro to look like Detroit, or better yet, 1945 Tokyo.

I look for the opening of the seventh seal, but of course, I would never say that.  That would be cwazie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want environMentalists targetted for assassination.  I want DC Metro to look like Detroit, or better yet, 1945 Tokyo.</p>
<p>I look for the opening of the seventh seal, but of course, I would never say that.  That would be cwazie.</p>
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		<title>By: JDP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JDP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 04:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>do even potential Republican presidents want a balanced-budget amendment? not giving the thumbs up to Obamaism but it does sorta straightjacket economic policy during downturns</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>do even potential Republican presidents want a balanced-budget amendment? not giving the thumbs up to Obamaism but it does sorta straightjacket economic policy during downturns</p>
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		<title>By: narciso</title>
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		<dc:creator>narciso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 02:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well we&#039;re not at the same point as the usual South Korean and Taiwanese parliamentary shindigs, but I see the point, funny how the democrats were so insistent on validating tyrannies like Iraq and Syria, and now want every country to be an elected dictatorship in the Turkish model,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well we&#8217;re not at the same point as the usual South Korean and Taiwanese parliamentary shindigs, but I see the point, funny how the democrats were so insistent on validating tyrannies like Iraq and Syria, and now want every country to be an elected dictatorship in the Turkish model,</p>
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		<title>By: Colonel Haiku</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colonel Haiku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 02:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we&#039;re just biden time
and we dread teh Dead Fed Fred
Obamanation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we&#8217;re just biden time<br />
and we dread teh Dead Fed Fred<br />
Obamanation</p>
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		<title>By: Colonel Haiku</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colonel Haiku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 02:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the money tree stands
shriveled and fruitless no hope
but where are we now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the money tree stands<br />
shriveled and fruitless no hope<br />
but where are we now?</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 02:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Dustin, I think the red states get more in federal taxes than they pay, on average. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

One reason this statistic is foolish to rely on is that federal spending isn&#039;t worth all that much.

It&#039;s also untrue for my red state, which definitely puts more in that it gets out. 

But a lot of what we are forced to put in and forced to get back... we don&#039;t actually want that anyway.  

Defense... you have a point there I agree, but the worst aspect of democrat spending is that it&#039;s fueling China&#039;s development into a superpower militarily.  I think we&#039;re a lot safer if we balance our budget.

I am not seriously worried about the USA being invaded.  I am an actual neo-con, though, and think the USA should export our democracy to promote stability.  I don&#039;t think that&#039;s realistic with our current political outlook... correct me if I&#039;m mistaken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Dustin, I think the red states get more in federal taxes than they pay, on average. </p></blockquote>
<p>One reason this statistic is foolish to rely on is that federal spending isn&#8217;t worth all that much.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also untrue for my red state, which definitely puts more in that it gets out. </p>
<p>But a lot of what we are forced to put in and forced to get back&#8230; we don&#8217;t actually want that anyway.  </p>
<p>Defense&#8230; you have a point there I agree, but the worst aspect of democrat spending is that it&#8217;s fueling China&#8217;s development into a superpower militarily.  I think we&#8217;re a lot safer if we balance our budget.</p>
<p>I am not seriously worried about the USA being invaded.  I am an actual neo-con, though, and think the USA should export our democracy to promote stability.  I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s realistic with our current political outlook&#8230; correct me if I&#8217;m mistaken.</p>
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		<title>By: John Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 02:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesn&#039;t matter how the Republicans say it, the media, and the bulk of Americans who rely on them, will blame it on the Republicans.

If the other side can convince people that objections to a Democratic attack on religious freedom is a Republican attack on women, they can sell anything.

It may be hopeless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter how the Republicans say it, the media, and the bulk of Americans who rely on them, will blame it on the Republicans.</p>
<p>If the other side can convince people that objections to a Democratic attack on religious freedom is a Republican attack on women, they can sell anything.</p>
<p>It may be hopeless.</p>
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		<title>By: Time123</title>
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		<dc:creator>Time123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 02:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dustin, I think the red states get more in federal taxes than they pay, on average. Also, defense is important. We should have some.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dustin, I think the red states get more in federal taxes than they pay, on average. Also, defense is important. We should have some.</p>
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		<title>By: Time123</title>
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		<dc:creator>Time123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 02:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@81. I&#039;m not sure about &quot;they&quot; but as I said before. If they won&#039;t say what they want to do up front, I don&#039;t have much confidence they&#039;ll push for tough decisions. Maybe I&#039;m wrong...but I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve seen it yet. The GOP is still loving cuts in the abstract but not wanting to talk specifics beyond &quot;waste fraud and abuse&quot; It&#039;s like when the Dems talk about raising taxes on &quot;the wealthy&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@81. I&#8217;m not sure about &#8220;they&#8221; but as I said before. If they won&#8217;t say what they want to do up front, I don&#8217;t have much confidence they&#8217;ll push for tough decisions. Maybe I&#8217;m wrong&#8230;but I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve seen it yet. The GOP is still loving cuts in the abstract but not wanting to talk specifics beyond &#8220;waste fraud and abuse&#8221; It&#8217;s like when the Dems talk about raising taxes on &#8220;the wealthy&#8221;.</p>
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