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	<title>Comments on: L.A. Times Cites Claim by Pro-Gun Control Group As If It Came From Some Neutral &#8220;Policy Center&#8221; on Guns</title>
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		<title>By: Dave Surls</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Surls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 22:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;In fact, since Heller, courts nationwide have found a wide variety of firearms laws constitutional because they can help prevent gun deaths, injuries, and crimes in communities across the country.&quot;

The insanity of these people never fails to amuse me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In fact, since Heller, courts nationwide have found a wide variety of firearms laws constitutional because they can help prevent gun deaths, injuries, and crimes in communities across the country.&#8221;</p>
<p>The insanity of these people never fails to amuse me.</p>
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		<title>By: Milhouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Milhouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 21:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SPQR, that is just so flabbergasting.  Of all the people in the USA, did he &lt;i&gt;have&lt;/i&gt; to pick this guy?  Is it possible that Biden &lt;I&gt;didn&#039;t know&lt;/i&gt; about this?  I can&#039;t decide which is worse: that he knew or that he didn&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SPQR, that is just so flabbergasting.  Of all the people in the USA, did he <i>have</i> to pick this guy?  Is it possible that Biden <i>didn&#8217;t know</i> about this?  I can&#8217;t decide which is worse: that he knew or that he didn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: SPQR</title>
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		<dc:creator>SPQR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 21:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2013/01/sipsey-street-exclusive-thomas-nee-key.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s a fascinating little bit of info&lt;/a&gt;, a member of Joe Biden&#039;s masturbatory &quot;commission&quot; on gun violence had a son convicted of plotting a school massacre which may have involved his service sidearm.

Yeah, that&#039;s who we need &quot;advising&quot; us...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2013/01/sipsey-street-exclusive-thomas-nee-key.html" rel="nofollow">Here&#8217;s a fascinating little bit of info</a>, a member of Joe Biden&#8217;s masturbatory &#8220;commission&#8221; on gun violence had a son convicted of plotting a school massacre which may have involved his service sidearm.</p>
<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s who we need &#8220;advising&#8221; us&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 19:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;We’ve had technology to supposedly render a firearm usable by only its owner for many years, but its not reliable and it has fault scenarios that make its potential user community not trust it.&lt;/i&gt;

Beat me to it.  Laptop readers (not cheap either) often take several attempts to work.

When the technology is 99.9999% reliable, 10 or 20 years from now, and fingerprint readers are on every credit card, lock and automobile, then, yeah, we can talk about putting it on Criticality One items like guns.  But not just yet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>We’ve had technology to supposedly render a firearm usable by only its owner for many years, but its not reliable and it has fault scenarios that make its potential user community not trust it.</i></p>
<p>Beat me to it.  Laptop readers (not cheap either) often take several attempts to work.</p>
<p>When the technology is 99.9999% reliable, 10 or 20 years from now, and fingerprint readers are on every credit card, lock and automobile, then, yeah, we can talk about putting it on Criticality One items like guns.  But not just yet.</p>
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		<title>By: PC14</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2013/01/05/l-a-times-cites-claim-by-pro-gun-control-group-as-if-it-came-from-some-neutral-policy-center-on-guns/comment-page-2/#comment-1143347</link>
		<dc:creator>PC14</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 05:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wish I still had a subscription to the LAT so I could cancel it again. The first time was soooo much fun.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I still had a subscription to the LAT so I could cancel it again. The first time was soooo much fun.</p>
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		<title>By: narciso</title>
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		<dc:creator>narciso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 04:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Imagine them, writing a story like this about a Bush Administration official



http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/jason-weinsteins-justice-department-career-was-cut-short-by-fast-and-furious/2013/01/06/55ceef2c-5072-11e2-839d-d54cc6e49b63_story_1.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine them, writing a story like this about a Bush Administration official</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/jason-weinsteins-justice-department-career-was-cut-short-by-fast-and-furious/2013/01/06/55ceef2c-5072-11e2-839d-d54cc6e49b63_story_1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/jason-weinsteins-justice-department-career-was-cut-short-by-fast-and-furious/2013/01/06/55ceef2c-5072-11e2-839d-d54cc6e49b63_story_1.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Smock Puppet, 10th Dan Snark Master and Accidental Death And Dismemberment Promoter</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2013/01/05/l-a-times-cites-claim-by-pro-gun-control-group-as-if-it-came-from-some-neutral-policy-center-on-guns/comment-page-2/#comment-1143300</link>
		<dc:creator>Smock Puppet, 10th Dan Snark Master and Accidental Death And Dismemberment Promoter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 04:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;since all of the deaths at Sandy Hook were the result of Lanza shooting them with either the Sig, or Glock, pistol he carried.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No, the officials are on record as stating that all the children&#039;s deaths, and I believe all the adult deaths, at SH occurred as a result of the Bushmaster.

Where this Bushmaster came from since, for the first 6-12 hours, the only three weapons on the scene were the two pistols and a presumed shotgun found in the car&#039;s trunk, is not really quite clear.

Be interesting to be a fly on the wall when on-scene witness people are interviewed regarding what they saw. I&#039;d also like to know if any security camera footage was taken.

I&#039;m not a fan of conspiracy, but the discrepancies do seem potentially significant in the face of &lt;i&gt;Fast And Furious&lt;/i&gt;.

The &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;reporters &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;damned sure aren&#039;t asking any questions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>since all of the deaths at Sandy Hook were the result of Lanza shooting them with either the Sig, or Glock, pistol he carried.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>No, the officials are on record as stating that all the children&#8217;s deaths, and I believe all the adult deaths, at SH occurred as a result of the Bushmaster.</p>
<p>Where this Bushmaster came from since, for the first 6-12 hours, the only three weapons on the scene were the two pistols and a presumed shotgun found in the car&#8217;s trunk, is not really quite clear.</p>
<p>Be interesting to be a fly on the wall when on-scene witness people are interviewed regarding what they saw. I&#8217;d also like to know if any security camera footage was taken.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a fan of conspiracy, but the discrepancies do seem potentially significant in the face of <i>Fast And Furious</i>.</p>
<p>The <b><i>reporters </i></b>damned sure aren&#8217;t asking any questions.</p>
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		<title>By: SPQR</title>
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		<dc:creator>SPQR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 03:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Finkelman, you still believe the most silly nonsense.  The TriggerSmart crap is not opposed by the NRA nor anyone else.  No one is buying that technology because no firearm user community trusts it.  We&#039;ve had technology to supposedly render a firearm usable by only its owner for many years, but its not reliable and it has fault scenarios that make its potential user community not trust it.

Obviously you are filled with this BS about the NRA from reading all the VPC/Brady Campaign propaganda.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finkelman, you still believe the most silly nonsense.  The TriggerSmart crap is not opposed by the NRA nor anyone else.  No one is buying that technology because no firearm user community trusts it.  We&#8217;ve had technology to supposedly render a firearm usable by only its owner for many years, but its not reliable and it has fault scenarios that make its potential user community not trust it.</p>
<p>Obviously you are filled with this BS about the NRA from reading all the VPC/Brady Campaign propaganda.</p>
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		<title>By: Smock Puppet, 10th Dan Snark Master and Accidental Death And Dismemberment Promoter</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2013/01/05/l-a-times-cites-claim-by-pro-gun-control-group-as-if-it-came-from-some-neutral-policy-center-on-guns/comment-page-2/#comment-1143291</link>
		<dc:creator>Smock Puppet, 10th Dan Snark Master and Accidental Death And Dismemberment Promoter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 03:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Stop giving these people money. Cancel your subscription to the L.A. Times today. It’s never too late.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Decidedly &lt;b&gt;NOT &lt;/b&gt;true. When they elect Obama for a &lt;i&gt;fourth &lt;/i&gt;term, it will be too late.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>Stop giving these people money. Cancel your subscription to the L.A. Times today. It’s never too late.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Decidedly <b>NOT </b>true. When they elect Obama for a <i>fourth </i>term, it will be too late.</p>
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		<title>By: askeptic</title>
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		<dc:creator>askeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 20:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sammy, please try to be less obtuse.
If they have been convicted of a crime, particularly one of violence, they should be incarcerated.
If their actions have resulted in the death of another, they should be executed.
If they are mentally unstable, causing them to be a threat to themselves or others, they should be locked up.
It is not a matter of not knowing who to lock up, it is only a matter of a lack of will on the part of those in charge.
When you have demonstrated an inability to &quot;play well with others&quot; you forfeit an entire list of your rights.  Just as, under current law, felons (whether violent or not) and misdemeanants (usually violent, but also includes those subject to restrainging orders - See:  Lautenburg) lose their 2nd-A rights, and those who have been convicted of serious financial crimes lose some degree of their freedom of association, we can restrict other areas of the Bill of Rights when cause is present.
Remember, we had very little of these problems back before the ACLU became overly concerned about the rights of mental patients, and the comfort of death-penalty recipients.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sammy, please try to be less obtuse.<br />
If they have been convicted of a crime, particularly one of violence, they should be incarcerated.<br />
If their actions have resulted in the death of another, they should be executed.<br />
If they are mentally unstable, causing them to be a threat to themselves or others, they should be locked up.<br />
It is not a matter of not knowing who to lock up, it is only a matter of a lack of will on the part of those in charge.<br />
When you have demonstrated an inability to &#8220;play well with others&#8221; you forfeit an entire list of your rights.  Just as, under current law, felons (whether violent or not) and misdemeanants (usually violent, but also includes those subject to restrainging orders &#8211; See:  Lautenburg) lose their 2nd-A rights, and those who have been convicted of serious financial crimes lose some degree of their freedom of association, we can restrict other areas of the Bill of Rights when cause is present.<br />
Remember, we had very little of these problems back before the ACLU became overly concerned about the rights of mental patients, and the comfort of death-penalty recipients.</p>
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