R.I.P. Robert Bork
Yet another reminder of mortality. Both Bork and the guy who killed his reputation, Ted Kennedy, are now gone.
Bork would have been a very good Supreme Court justice. Condolences to his family.
Yet another reminder of mortality. Both Bork and the guy who killed his reputation, Ted Kennedy, are now gone.
Bork would have been a very good Supreme Court justice. Condolences to his family.
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Kennedy taught a generation that self-righteously declaring a serious of lies in a confident tone can fool a lot of people. Somewhere, a recently convicted bomber was taking notes.
Patterico (8b3905) — 12/19/2012 @ 7:44 amWhat do you want to bet that the media coverage only very lightly plays the awful lies that Ted Kennedy told in the bid to sink the nomination, and that they set up some kind of moral equivalence for how the GOP has since “retaliated” by stalling some silly left-wing district court nominee?
JVW (4826a9) — 12/19/2012 @ 8:08 amUnfortunately, a whole lot of people were taking notes, and dominating mass media ever since.
MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 12/19/2012 @ 8:08 amHad Bork been confirmed, his death would have given Obama another nomination to the court. Kennedy will still be there when Obama leaves office. Unless, of course, he doesn’t.
Mike_K (5552a4) — 12/19/2012 @ 8:49 amI did not agree with some of Bork’s views, but I admired his legal acumen, honesty and intelligence. I despised Ted Kennedy and the guy from Ohio for what they did to him. They were not worthy to carry his briefcase.
nk (875f57) — 12/19/2012 @ 9:07 amnk,
You’re thinking of Howard Metzenbaum, former sleazebag Senator of Ohio.
Elephant Stone (65d289) — 12/19/2012 @ 9:14 amI guess, Elephant Stone. He was one creepy character, ranting about Griswold v. Connecticutt, a creepy rant in itself. Bork was a gentleman in front of these jacka**es, maybe too much of a gentleman.
I know most of you guys did not like Specter, but the way he defended Thomas, against Anita Hill, is the way Bork should have been defended.
nk (875f57) — 12/19/2012 @ 9:26 amWhat do you mean by that?
Michael Ejercito (2e0217) — 12/19/2012 @ 9:36 amnk,
You’re spot-on about the way that Specter defended Clarence Thomas, but don’t forget the way that Specter had his knives out for Bork during his confirmation hearings.
Elephant Stone (65d289) — 12/19/2012 @ 9:42 amMike K: Kennedy will still be there when Obama leaves office. Unless, of course, he doesn’t.
Michael Ejercito: What do you mean by that?
I think he means it won’t be long before the Obama Chorus in academia and the media starts wondering aloud of the 22nd Amendment is really a good idea. Don’t you recall how the Clintonistas bemoaned that the Constitution didn’t allow Billy C. to stay President for Life?
JVW (4826a9) — 12/19/2012 @ 9:54 amBork was let down by a lot of Republicans.
nk (875f57) — 12/19/2012 @ 10:23 amAlan Simpson (R-WI) had the decency to tell Clarence Thomas, “Fight”. And the fight brought Republicans and Democrats to Thomas’s side. Illinois lost a fine Senator, Allen Dixon, because of it and we got an idiot, Carol Moseley-Braun, in his place.
nk (875f57) — 12/19/2012 @ 10:29 am*(R-WO)*
nk (875f57) — 12/19/2012 @ 10:31 amnk,
Bork was let down by several Republicans in the final vote, but Specter was the a-hole on the all-important Senate Judiciary Committee who had his knives out for Judge Bork.
The Senate Judiciary Committee conducted the hearings.
Please. Let’s not pass the buck on this one.
Specter could have stood up for Bork the same way he would later stand up for Thomas. But he didn’t—instead, he threw darts at him.
Elephant Stone (65d289) — 12/19/2012 @ 10:35 amAfter Bork’s nomination to SCOTUS, Ted Kennedy made the following statement to the Senate:
Judiciary Committee Chairman, Joe Biden, joined Kennedy’s coordinated attack, Gregory Peck was brought in to narrate TV ads calling Bork an extreamist, and NPR’s Nina Totenberg performed her usual roll as a character assassin.
Bork defended himself by claiming that “There was not a line in (Kennedy’s) speech that was accurate.” Years later, the Economist’s Kennedy obituary acknowledged that it was Bork and not Kennedy who had been correct, but that Kennedy had succeeded in denying Bork a SC appointment.
And in his book, <iThe Tempting of America Bork wrote that Biden “so thoroughly misrepresented (his) plain record that it easily qualifies as world class in the category of scurrility.”
ropelight (e51ff1) — 12/19/2012 @ 10:36 amThe bright side:
askeptic (b8ab92) — 12/19/2012 @ 10:38 amThis is a Supreme Court appointment denied Obama.
Comment by nk (875f57) — 12/19/2012 @ 10:31 am
“R-WY”
FTFY!
askeptic (b8ab92) — 12/19/2012 @ 10:40 amTeddy’s conduct on the Senate Floor in the Bork Nomination is all the reason needed to make a special exception in the criminal code for Senatorial/Congressional Dueling for speech that is otherwise protected under the Constitution.
They need to have their a$$ cash that check their mouth just wrote.
askeptic (b8ab92) — 12/19/2012 @ 10:43 amTed Kennedy left a woman to drown, didn’t report it to authorities until after lunch (and a consultation with his attorney !) the next day, yet he somehow would still find the nerve to position himself as some sort of moral authority.
Elephant Stone (65d289) — 12/19/2012 @ 10:48 amThanks, askeptic.
BTW, you do know that a skeptic means a thinker, whereas askeptic, without the space, means thoughtless/negligent?
Also, I owe you an apology for a comment I made to you in a porn thread, and it’s been bothering me. Please accept it, now.
nk (875f57) — 12/19/2012 @ 10:52 amnk will be performing at the Chicago Laugh Factory on Thursday nite. He’ll take the stage around 9:45PM.
Elephant Stone (65d289) — 12/19/2012 @ 11:00 amTwo drink minimum, but I recommend four or five drinks if you expect to laugh at his jokes.
think of “askeptic” as an email address – spaces generally frowned upon.
askeptic (b8ab92) — 12/19/2012 @ 11:02 amAfter last month, “skeptic” pretty much frames my position/opinion of what is happening in this nation of ours, and whether or not we can recover.
There is just so much dead-wood to overcome.
As to your comment, I doubt if I ever saw it – and it’s water off of a duck’s back.
No Harm, No Foul!
ES, is he appearing to restock his produce pantry?
askeptic (b8ab92) — 12/19/2012 @ 11:03 amaskeptic,
Yeah, pal, but I think he’s got too many lemons. A sour taste !
Elephant Stone (65d289) — 12/19/2012 @ 11:17 amThe porn thread was here. You agreed with me that porn stars were exhibitionists and I misunderstood.
nk (875f57) — 12/19/2012 @ 11:30 am“skeptic” can mean doubtfull as well as thoughtfull.
nk (875f57) — 12/19/2012 @ 11:32 amThe bright side:
This is a Supreme Court appointment denied Obama.
Comment by askeptic (b8ab92) — 12/19/2012 @ 10:38 am
— The un-bright side:
Icy (124c 41+) (e4ca1c) — 12/19/2012 @ 11:35 amThis could have been 3 years without Sotomayor, or 2 years without Kagan.
Specter and Kennedy should rot in Hell for what they did here.
Rodney King's Spirit (951136) — 12/19/2012 @ 12:09 pmNothing to see here:
Icy (124c 41+) (e4ca1c) — 12/19/2012 @ 12:15 pmWASHINGTON (AP) – Three State Department officials resigned under pressure Wednesday, less than a day after a damning report blamed management failures for a lack of security at the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, where militants killed the U.S. ambassador and three other Americans on Sept. 11
NK, I believe that Simpson was the Senator from WY, not WI or WO.
aphrael (9be6f3) — 12/19/2012 @ 12:44 pmThe SCOTUS (aka the Dred Scott Memorial Court) is a festering pile of dog crap.
Not getting into it was the best thing that ever happened to Robert Bork.
He lucked out.
Sorry to hear that he’s died.
Dave Surls (46b08c) — 12/19/2012 @ 1:17 pmOf course,, you can’t understand the blanc mange behavior of Anthony Kennedy, and to a degree, John Roberts, without regards to the ‘trial by fire’ he’s been on, no left wing judge, gets anywhere that level of scrutiny,
narciso (ee31f1) — 12/19/2012 @ 1:42 pmA great jurist, who we were deprived of his talent,
some however don’t have a clue;
http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=46069
narciso (ee31f1) — 12/19/2012 @ 1:56 pmnarciso, are you saying that Kennedy and Roberts are still undergoing their confirmation hearings? Or are you simply acknowledging that Alito, Scalia & Thomas are the only ones on the court with any balls?
Icy (124c 41+) (e4ca1c) — 12/19/2012 @ 2:09 pmMore of the latter, although Roberts only need a beachball to show what a dancing seal he has become.
narciso (ee31f1) — 12/19/2012 @ 2:16 pmThe votes to repeal it are not there.
Michael Ejercito (2e0217) — 12/19/2012 @ 5:24 pm“The very fact that we have gone from Elvis to Snoop Doggy Dogg is the heart of the case for censorship” — Robert Bork.
Aren’t we all happy that we don’t read that in a Supreme Court opinion? Thank you Joe Biden and Ted Kennedy, for your service to this country.
AmishParadise (e45887) — 12/21/2012 @ 12:58 pmComment by nk (875f57) — 12/19/2012 @ 10:29 am
And the fight brought Republicans and Democrats to Thomas’s side. Illinois lost a fine Senator, Allen Dixon, because of it and we got an idiot, Carol Moseley-Braun, in his place.
But then Carol Mosely Braun ran into trouble.
First, when her mother stood to inheritance money, ahe and her siblings managed to bypass her mother, because her mother would have had to reimburse Medicaid (Medicaid has clawbacks!)
Then, it came out she and her campaign manager/fiance spent $281,000 in campaign funds on a trip to Africa, jewelry, stereo equipment, clothes and two jeeps. Her fiance (with whom she later split up) was a registered agent of the government of Nigeria and they paid a “private” visit to Nigeria, and met with then dictator General Sani Abacha, without the usual checking in with the State Department. Her poll numbers dropped, but few Democrats wanted to run against a black Senator and Mayor Daley II endorsed her. There weren’t many Republicans running. Only anti-abortion Peter Fitzgerald was running and he seemed to have a clear path to the Senate. So Republican leaders persuaded Comptroller Lolita Didrickson to run. Carol Mosely Braun said they voted very much alike in the State legislature and Peter Fitzgerald made that into an ad. Fitzgerald won both the primary and the general election by a narrow margin but spent a tremendous amount of his own money in the process.
In 2004, he decided not run for re-election, and the rest is history.
Sammy Finkelman (7b1b59) — 12/23/2012 @ 4:51 pmA few months I think I read that Robert Bork was sick, and his age. I didn’t know he was so old.
Sammy Finkelman (7b1b59) — 12/23/2012 @ 4:53 pm16.
We don’t know that at all, do we?
Souter chose to leave early; ditto Stevens, who, tho quite old, left on his own schedule, marbles intact – OLDER then any of the current SCOTUS justices will be when Obama’s second term ends; the oldest, Ginsberg, could hang in until the last year of President H. Clinton’s second term before she reaches Stevens’ leaving age. One of the younger judges could go next; indeed, the best predictor of very very very old age is very very old age, and so on back.
We cannot predict the future, only make book.
Orestes Ippeau (595e35) — 12/26/2012 @ 12:50 am