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	<title>Comments on: Rice Has Withdrawn, But Apparently Team Rice Supports Donilon for SoS</title>
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		<title>By: Sammy Finkelman</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2012/12/18/rice-has-withdrawn-but-apparently-team-rice-supports-donilon-for-sos/comment-page-2/#comment-1135658</link>
		<dc:creator>Sammy Finkelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 00:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard (I think on the NBC Nightly News) that Senators do not want to hold hearings on a Kerry nomination until Hillary Clinton testifies. (there&#039;s thinking she is trying to evade it all)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard (I think on the NBC Nightly News) that Senators do not want to hold hearings on a Kerry nomination until Hillary Clinton testifies. (there&#8217;s thinking she is trying to evade it all)</p>
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		<title>By: askeptic</title>
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		<dc:creator>askeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 00:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;We don’t live in a sane world. Hence Obama’s second term.
Comment by Steve57 (25fb74) — 12/19/2012 @ 3:39 pm&lt;/i&gt;

Ain&#039;t that the truth!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>We don’t live in a sane world. Hence Obama’s second term.<br />
Comment by Steve57 (25fb74) — 12/19/2012 @ 3:39 pm</i></p>
<p>Ain&#8217;t that the truth!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve57</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve57</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 23:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;8. Sen. Kerry, you served mere months in Vietnam, pissed off nearly every officer who served with you, then served in the Senate with no real legislative accomplishments. What makes you think you are qualified…

Comment by ukuleledave (c59551) — 12/18/2012 @ 9:08 am &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sen. Kerry responds, &quot;Have you taken a look at who&#039;s President lately?&quot;

In a sane world anyone who thought Kerry was qualified to be SecState would be laughed off the national stage.

But in the world we live in the fact that the bizarrely named Accountability Review Board (which holds no one accountable) found gross security lapses and failures at the senior leadership level in the State Dept. to blame for the Benghazi debacle will not end Hillary!&#039;s career. 

Again, in a sane world it would. The person in charge of an organization is directly responsible for leadership failures. And really Obama would be responsible as well.

In point of fact, they&#039;ve both said they are ultimately responsible.

They will demonstrate that they will not hold themselves accountable. They are not responsible.

So they will get the credit for taking responsibility because they held press conferences in which they mouthed words to that effect while at the same time not pay any sort of price that one who is actually holding themselves responsible would expect to and be willing to pay.

In a sane world putting in time in an organization like the DoS in Hillary!&#039;s case, or the Senate in Kerry&#039;s, wouldn&#039;t be enough. They&#039;d actually have to demonstrate some sort of accomplishment as opposed to just demonstrating their dead weight.

We don&#039;t live in a sane world. Hence Obama&#039;s second term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>8. Sen. Kerry, you served mere months in Vietnam, pissed off nearly every officer who served with you, then served in the Senate with no real legislative accomplishments. What makes you think you are qualified…</p>
<p>Comment by ukuleledave (c59551) — 12/18/2012 @ 9:08 am </p></blockquote>
<p>Sen. Kerry responds, &#8220;Have you taken a look at who&#8217;s President lately?&#8221;</p>
<p>In a sane world anyone who thought Kerry was qualified to be SecState would be laughed off the national stage.</p>
<p>But in the world we live in the fact that the bizarrely named Accountability Review Board (which holds no one accountable) found gross security lapses and failures at the senior leadership level in the State Dept. to blame for the Benghazi debacle will not end Hillary!&#8217;s career. </p>
<p>Again, in a sane world it would. The person in charge of an organization is directly responsible for leadership failures. And really Obama would be responsible as well.</p>
<p>In point of fact, they&#8217;ve both said they are ultimately responsible.</p>
<p>They will demonstrate that they will not hold themselves accountable. They are not responsible.</p>
<p>So they will get the credit for taking responsibility because they held press conferences in which they mouthed words to that effect while at the same time not pay any sort of price that one who is actually holding themselves responsible would expect to and be willing to pay.</p>
<p>In a sane world putting in time in an organization like the DoS in Hillary!&#8217;s case, or the Senate in Kerry&#8217;s, wouldn&#8217;t be enough. They&#8217;d actually have to demonstrate some sort of accomplishment as opposed to just demonstrating their dead weight.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t live in a sane world. Hence Obama&#8217;s second term.</p>
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		<title>By: Sammy Finkelman</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2012/12/18/rice-has-withdrawn-but-apparently-team-rice-supports-donilon-for-sos/comment-page-1/#comment-1135634</link>
		<dc:creator>Sammy Finkelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 23:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuck Hagel is encountering resistance: (and he didn&#039;t get nominated the last time Obama was picking  major Cabinweet members)

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324907204578185223495090066.html
 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/chuck-hagel-is-not-right-for-defense-secretary/2012/12/18/07e03e20-493c-11e2-ad54-580638ede391_print.html

Jennifer Rubin: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2012/12/18/exclusive-adl-pans-possible-chuck-hagel-pick/?print=1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck Hagel is encountering resistance: (and he didn&#8217;t get nominated the last time Obama was picking  major Cabinweet members)</p>
<p><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324907204578185223495090066.html" rel="nofollow">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324907204578185223495090066.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/chuck-hagel-is-not-right-for-defense-secretary/2012/12/18/07e03e20-493c-11e2-ad54-580638ede391_print.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/chuck-hagel-is-not-right-for-defense-secretary/2012/12/18/07e03e20-493c-11e2-ad54-580638ede391_print.html</a></p>
<p>Jennifer Rubin: <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2012/12/18/exclusive-adl-pans-possible-chuck-hagel-pick/?print=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2012/12/18/exclusive-adl-pans-possible-chuck-hagel-pick/?print=1</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sammy Finkelman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sammy Finkelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 23:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dukakis said no:

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/12/17/dukakis-no-i-wont-take-kerrys-interim-senate-seat-opening/

(He wants no interruption in his teaching duties)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dukakis said no:</p>
<p><a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2012/12/17/dukakis-no-i-wont-take-kerrys-interim-senate-seat-opening/" rel="nofollow">http://hotair.com/archives/2012/12/17/dukakis-no-i-wont-take-kerrys-interim-senate-seat-opening/</a></p>
<p>(He wants no interruption in his teaching duties)</p>
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		<title>By: Argus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Argus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 21:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sen. Kerry...through March, 2004, you (and your staff) denied your participation in a Nov, 1971, VVAW meeting in Kansas City during which a plan to assassinate elected government officials was seriously debated and voted upon. In fact, throughout your career and prior to the publication of Douglas Brinkley&#039;s biography on you, you claimed to have resigned from leadership of the VVAW in July of that year. Subsequently, in Brinkley&#039;s book, you told Brinkley you wrote a letter of resignation on 10 Nov, 2 days prior to the commencement of the Kansas City meeting, which you purported to be on file with other VVAW papers in Wisconsin.  Neither Mr. Brinkley nor anyone else was able to locate that purported letter.

In March, 2004, anti-war/VVAW historian Gerald Nicosia definitively placed you at that meeting in Kansas City via a review of FBI surveillance documents.  He also received eyewitness testimony from multiple sources placing you at that meeting.

Subsequent to Mr. Nicosia&#039;s revelation of your attendance at this meeting, you still insisted you did not recall attending but would yield to the incontrovertible proof of your attendance there.

Mr. Kerry...if you cannot recall participating in a debate involving a plan to ASSASSINATE elected government officials, how can we assume you have the intellectual acumen to assume leadership of our State Department?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sen. Kerry&#8230;through March, 2004, you (and your staff) denied your participation in a Nov, 1971, VVAW meeting in Kansas City during which a plan to assassinate elected government officials was seriously debated and voted upon. In fact, throughout your career and prior to the publication of Douglas Brinkley&#8217;s biography on you, you claimed to have resigned from leadership of the VVAW in July of that year. Subsequently, in Brinkley&#8217;s book, you told Brinkley you wrote a letter of resignation on 10 Nov, 2 days prior to the commencement of the Kansas City meeting, which you purported to be on file with other VVAW papers in Wisconsin.  Neither Mr. Brinkley nor anyone else was able to locate that purported letter.</p>
<p>In March, 2004, anti-war/VVAW historian Gerald Nicosia definitively placed you at that meeting in Kansas City via a review of FBI surveillance documents.  He also received eyewitness testimony from multiple sources placing you at that meeting.</p>
<p>Subsequent to Mr. Nicosia&#8217;s revelation of your attendance at this meeting, you still insisted you did not recall attending but would yield to the incontrovertible proof of your attendance there.</p>
<p>Mr. Kerry&#8230;if you cannot recall participating in a debate involving a plan to ASSASSINATE elected government officials, how can we assume you have the intellectual acumen to assume leadership of our State Department?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 02:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Off-topic:  We ought to have a pool on the date the NY Times first suggests that the 22nd Amendment is outdated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off-topic:  We ought to have a pool on the date the NY Times first suggests that the 22nd Amendment is outdated.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 02:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Frankly, I think the way things are going, the job should go to a Muslim.  Will you convert to Islam to get the job, Senator Kerry?  If not, why not?  Is there something wrong with Islam?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Frankly, I think the way things are going, the job should go to a Muslim.  Will you convert to Islam to get the job, Senator Kerry?  If not, why not?  Is there something wrong with Islam?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 02:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What guarantees do we have that you will not promote your rich wife&#039;s interests?&quot;

&quot;How do you respond to the claim that you&#039;re just another rich guy who cannot relate to the other 99%?&quot;

&quot;Back in 1971, &lt;a href=&quot;http://media.portland.indymedia.org/images/2004/10/300153.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Doonesbury lampooned you&lt;/a&gt; as a self-promoting narcissist.  What has changed since then?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What guarantees do we have that you will not promote your rich wife&#8217;s interests?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;How do you respond to the claim that you&#8217;re just another rich guy who cannot relate to the other 99%?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Back in 1971, <a href="http://media.portland.indymedia.org/images/2004/10/300153.jpg" rel="nofollow">Doonesbury lampooned you</a> as a self-promoting narcissist.  What has changed since then?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: The Dana who noted who won the election</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Dana who noted who won the election</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 01:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Askeptic wrote:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Because they need to suffer some embarrassment and/or loss, for the damage that they have done to the country; and as a reminder to their replacements that phuqueing-up has consequences.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Really?  The consequences of President Obama&#039;s fouling up for the last four years was a second term.  Tell me more about those consequences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Askeptic wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>Because they need to suffer some embarrassment and/or loss, for the damage that they have done to the country; and as a reminder to their replacements that phuqueing-up has consequences.</p></blockquote>
<p>Really?  The consequences of President Obama&#8217;s fouling up for the last four years was a second term.  Tell me more about those consequences.</p>
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