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	<title>Comments on: Debunking Tommy Christopher on the Attack on Steve Crowder, Part 4: Why Did Tommy Christopher Not Mention the Statements from Black Witnesses on Who Pulled Down the Tent?</title>
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		<title>By: Neo</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2012/12/18/debunking-tommy-christopher-on-the-attack-on-steve-crowder-part-4-why-did-tommy-christopher-not-mention-the-statements-from-black-witnesses-on-who-pulled-down-the-tent/comment-page-1/#comment-1135785</link>
		<dc:creator>Neo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 05:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;raises questions about whether the man he pushed was actually trying to protect the tent&quot;

The guy that attacked Crowder wasn&#039;t protecting the tent. He was protecting Chris Opalewski, who was trying to bring down the tent. After Tony and Hard Hat guy menaced Crowder and the other guy (who pushed or somehow stopped Opalewski) you can see Opalewski continue to take down the tent in the background behind the Union guys. Aiding and abetting a crime is also a crime, right?

Cenk Uygur claims Tony was &quot;standing calmly.&quot;
http://youtu.be/tIF70HsfpAg

Chris Opalewski hating on fellow (Police) Union members.
http://youtu.be/H-zPhd5i9AI</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;raises questions about whether the man he pushed was actually trying to protect the tent&#8221;</p>
<p>The guy that attacked Crowder wasn&#8217;t protecting the tent. He was protecting Chris Opalewski, who was trying to bring down the tent. After Tony and Hard Hat guy menaced Crowder and the other guy (who pushed or somehow stopped Opalewski) you can see Opalewski continue to take down the tent in the background behind the Union guys. Aiding and abetting a crime is also a crime, right?</p>
<p>Cenk Uygur claims Tony was &#8220;standing calmly.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://youtu.be/tIF70HsfpAg" rel="nofollow">http://youtu.be/tIF70HsfpAg</a></p>
<p>Chris Opalewski hating on fellow (Police) Union members.<br />
<a href="http://youtu.be/H-zPhd5i9AI" rel="nofollow">http://youtu.be/H-zPhd5i9AI</a></p>
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		<title>By: Patterico</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2012/12/18/debunking-tommy-christopher-on-the-attack-on-steve-crowder-part-4-why-did-tommy-christopher-not-mention-the-statements-from-black-witnesses-on-who-pulled-down-the-tent/comment-page-1/#comment-1135709</link>
		<dc:creator>Patterico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 02:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I know this isn’t the thread for it, but merry Christmas Patterico, for all you do and do above and beyond and the junk that gets tossed your way… I hope next year is so much better then what has happened. Sorry that such crazy people exist. Thank you for your voice.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Thanks, G. Hey, as far as I&#039;m concerned, any thread is the thread for a comment like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I know this isn’t the thread for it, but merry Christmas Patterico, for all you do and do above and beyond and the junk that gets tossed your way… I hope next year is so much better then what has happened. Sorry that such crazy people exist. Thank you for your voice.</p></blockquote>
<p>Thanks, G. Hey, as far as I&#8217;m concerned, any thread is the thread for a comment like that.</p>
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		<title>By: narciso</title>
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		<dc:creator>narciso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 02:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One wonders how far the propensity to deceive extends, they cover up an assault, would they try to go further, we know how persons of a similar mindset tampered with audio, video and transcript
to incite a &#039;two minute hate&#039; one of which was rehired in Seattle, we know nothing Christopher does leads to sanctions from Mediaite?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One wonders how far the propensity to deceive extends, they cover up an assault, would they try to go further, we know how persons of a similar mindset tampered with audio, video and transcript<br />
to incite a &#8216;two minute hate&#8217; one of which was rehired in Seattle, we know nothing Christopher does leads to sanctions from Mediaite?</p>
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		<title>By: Bill M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 01:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt; if you apply his own standards to his conduct here, you would conclude that he is &lt;/b&gt;

Wouldn&#039;t he have to have standards before he could have them applied against him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b> if you apply his own standards to his conduct here, you would conclude that he is </b></p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t he have to have standards before he could have them applied against him?</p>
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		<title>By: Neo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 01:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg McNeal&#039;s coverage of this story at Forbes hasn&#039;t gotten much love:

http://blogs.forbes.com/gregorymcneal/

He started asking the right questions from day 1 (Dec. 11th) and the only comments have come from leftist trolls including one &quot;Stephen Diamond&quot; a leftist law professor.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gregorymcneal/2012/12/11/union-protest-assault-victim-challenges-assailaint-to-mma-fight/#comments
http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/12/the-epistemic-closure-of-progressives-to-their-violent-union-thugs/comment-page-1/#comment-396974
http://stephen-diamond.com/?p=4267

Considering Greg McNeal asked all the right questions, any moonbat conspiracy-think about &quot;questions now being raised&quot; from the leftist blogs in the week after the assault on AFP are clearly yellow journalism. Or maybe &quot;red&quot; journalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg McNeal&#8217;s coverage of this story at Forbes hasn&#8217;t gotten much love:</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.forbes.com/gregorymcneal/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.forbes.com/gregorymcneal/</a></p>
<p>He started asking the right questions from day 1 (Dec. 11th) and the only comments have come from leftist trolls including one &#8220;Stephen Diamond&#8221; a leftist law professor.<br />
<a href="http://www.forbes.com/sites/gregorymcneal/2012/12/11/union-protest-assault-victim-challenges-assailaint-to-mma-fight/#comments" rel="nofollow">http://www.forbes.com/sites/gregorymcneal/2012/12/11/union-protest-assault-victim-challenges-assailaint-to-mma-fight/#comments</a><br />
<a href="http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/12/the-epistemic-closure-of-progressives-to-their-violent-union-thugs/comment-page-1/#comment-396974" rel="nofollow">http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/12/the-epistemic-closure-of-progressives-to-their-violent-union-thugs/comment-page-1/#comment-396974</a><br />
<a href="http://stephen-diamond.com/?p=4267" rel="nofollow">http://stephen-diamond.com/?p=4267</a></p>
<p>Considering Greg McNeal asked all the right questions, any moonbat conspiracy-think about &#8220;questions now being raised&#8221; from the leftist blogs in the week after the assault on AFP are clearly yellow journalism. Or maybe &#8220;red&#8221; journalism.</p>
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		<title>By: redc1c4</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2012/12/18/debunking-tommy-christopher-on-the-attack-on-steve-crowder-part-4-why-did-tommy-christopher-not-mention-the-statements-from-black-witnesses-on-who-pulled-down-the-tent/comment-page-1/#comment-1135527</link>
		<dc:creator>redc1c4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 18:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clint had nice things to say about Mittens in a Slate interview &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2012/02/in_michigan_mitt_romney_is_trying_to_appeal_to_as_many_republicans_as_possible_.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;(third para from the bottom)&lt;/a&gt;, and the local left seems to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.eclectablog.com/2012/12/a-bit-of-truth-telling-about-the-lansing-hot-dog-guy-whose-cart-was-destroyed-by-union-thugs.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;hate him.&lt;/a&gt; 

if anything, i&#039;d imagine he would play down his politics because he&#039;s black, because to be black &amp; conservative is to be targeted by the left, and that would effect his business.

terrorism and suppression is the left&#039;s stock in trade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clint had nice things to say about Mittens in a Slate interview <a href="http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2012/02/in_michigan_mitt_romney_is_trying_to_appeal_to_as_many_republicans_as_possible_.html" rel="nofollow">(third para from the bottom)</a>, and the local left seems to <a href="http://www.eclectablog.com/2012/12/a-bit-of-truth-telling-about-the-lansing-hot-dog-guy-whose-cart-was-destroyed-by-union-thugs.html" rel="nofollow">hate him.</a> </p>
<p>if anything, i&#8217;d imagine he would play down his politics because he&#8217;s black, because to be black &amp; conservative is to be targeted by the left, and that would effect his business.</p>
<p>terrorism and suppression is the left&#8217;s stock in trade.</p>
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		<title>By: ratbeach</title>
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		<dc:creator>ratbeach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 17:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Linda Tarver is a big Tea Party supporter. Clint is apparently a well known hot dog vender at the capital (there was a YouTube video profiling him. It said he caters during the cold months.) According to Linda, Clint was hired to cater AFP. Linda said that Clint isn&#039;t even very political.

Story: http://www.mlive.com/lansing-news/index.ssf/2012/12/lansing_business_owner_alleges.html

Here&#039;s the video on YouTube profiling Clint: www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaBuwQomCt8</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Linda Tarver is a big Tea Party supporter. Clint is apparently a well known hot dog vender at the capital (there was a YouTube video profiling him. It said he caters during the cold months.) According to Linda, Clint was hired to cater AFP. Linda said that Clint isn&#8217;t even very political.</p>
<p>Story: <a href="http://www.mlive.com/lansing-news/index.ssf/2012/12/lansing_business_owner_alleges.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.mlive.com/lansing-news/index.ssf/2012/12/lansing_business_owner_alleges.html</a></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the video on YouTube profiling Clint: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaBuwQomCt8" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaBuwQomCt8</a></p>
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		<title>By: redc1c4</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2012/12/18/debunking-tommy-christopher-on-the-attack-on-steve-crowder-part-4-why-did-tommy-christopher-not-mention-the-statements-from-black-witnesses-on-who-pulled-down-the-tent/comment-page-1/#comment-1135467</link>
		<dc:creator>redc1c4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 15:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>seems i did &#039;member right. her name is Linds, according to the last paragraph &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2012/dec/13/conservatives-demand-justice-michigan-attack/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here.&lt;/a&gt;

a search for &quot;Linda Tarver Republicn&quot; turns up numerous hits, such as &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.linkedin.com/pub/linda-lee-tarver/8/9/92b&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rightmichigan.com/story/2011/1/28/05346/2768&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; interview that has a video at the bottom. 

the screen cap showing there looks like the person on the video screen shot you posted, so i&#039;d say that&#039;s a lock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seems i did &#8216;member right. her name is Linds, according to the last paragraph <a href="http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2012/dec/13/conservatives-demand-justice-michigan-attack/" rel="nofollow">here.</a></p>
<p>a search for &#8220;Linda Tarver Republicn&#8221; turns up numerous hits, such as <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/pub/linda-lee-tarver/8/9/92b" rel="nofollow">LinkedIn</a>, and <a href="http://www.rightmichigan.com/story/2011/1/28/05346/2768" rel="nofollow">this</a> interview that has a video at the bottom. </p>
<p>the screen cap showing there looks like the person on the video screen shot you posted, so i&#8217;d say that&#8217;s a lock.</p>
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		<title>By: redc1c4</title>
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		<dc:creator>redc1c4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 15:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Malkin, maybe?  i read that she was a local Republican official, IIRC. 

i&#039;ll have to do a search and see if i can find it.

i read too damn much. 8)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Malkin, maybe?  i read that she was a local Republican official, IIRC. </p>
<p>i&#8217;ll have to do a search and see if i can find it.</p>
<p>i read too damn much. 8)</p>
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		<title>By: JohnInMA</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnInMA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 13:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee, Christopher&#039;s entire argument seems to boil down to:  He is more suspicious (hateful?) of Crowder than words of union members that he labels &#039;least reliable&#039;.  He therefore considers their story potentially more credible.  As I read it, there isn&#039;t even any effort to measure or qualify the reliability of any or either.  But clearly to him, one side is less trustworthy because of some reason not highlighted (but we can all guess what it is).

It&#039;s a good thing that such shallow and inept reasoning is shunned and rebuked in most professions.  Otherwise our laws and legal rulings would be quite the mess, or infinitely more so, and our bridges and buildings would be unusable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee, Christopher&#8217;s entire argument seems to boil down to:  He is more suspicious (hateful?) of Crowder than words of union members that he labels &#8216;least reliable&#8217;.  He therefore considers their story potentially more credible.  As I read it, there isn&#8217;t even any effort to measure or qualify the reliability of any or either.  But clearly to him, one side is less trustworthy because of some reason not highlighted (but we can all guess what it is).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a good thing that such shallow and inept reasoning is shunned and rebuked in most professions.  Otherwise our laws and legal rulings would be quite the mess, or infinitely more so, and our bridges and buildings would be unusable.</p>
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