How many soldiers’ lives could have been saved if the news media had been prevented from running the Abu Ghraib photos, if Newsweek had been prevented from running that fake photo of the koran in the toilet, how many lives could have been saved if the fake photo of Mohammed al-Dura could have been suppressed, or the Mohammed cartoons,

These didn’t cause any more deaths than the Innocence of Muslims YouTube video caused the Cairo and Benghazi and other attacks, but it’s because of all these previous incidents that it sounded kind of believable to some people.

What are you talking about? The deaths caused by these things are very very real. Not like this fake Cairo/Benghazi thing.

How the hell can these people afford to travel across the country pissing people off? Who is funding these f-wads?

Lawsuits against people who beat them up. And other legal work; they are lawyers after all. And how much does travel cost, already? They’ve got the caravans, they just have to pay for fuel, etc.

The “Westboro Baptist Church” is not an actual church, or any other kind of group, it’s just a single extended family with a fancy name.

Perhaps we need to have each school hire a retired cops to sit around, armed, just in case. They can teach PE or supervise recess to cut the costs a bit.

Why? Just let the teachers and other staff who are already being paid bring the arms they already have. If that’s not enough, then offer a small pay bump to those who qualify for CCW and agree to come to work armed.

How many soldiers’ lives could have been saved if the news media had been prevented from running the Abu Ghraib photos, if Newsweek had been prevented from running that fake photo of the koran in the toilet, how many lives could have been saved if the fake photo of Mohammed al-Dura could have been suppressed, or the Mohammed cartoons,

These didn’t cause any more deaths than the Innocence of Muslims YouTube video caused the Cairo and Benghazi and other attacks, but it’s because of all these previous incidents that it sounded kind of believable to some people.

It may not happen any more. I think that’s played out and too many people see through it.

Maybe the Mohammed al Dura picture did affect a few people, but only because it was tied into so much more.

I figure, somewhere around a week from now, we might get something resembling an accurate report.

We’ll have all the media outlets get some facts wrong too, then. It would be hard to find something without any mistake.

. I just think it’s worth having the discussion about many gun-murders a year the Second Amendment is worth.

Right after we discuss how many deaths the first amendment is worth. How many soldiers’ lives could have been saved if the news media had been prevented from running the Abu Ghraib photos, if Newsweek had been prevented from running that fake photo of the koran in the toilet, how many lives could have been saved if the fake photo of Mohammed al-Dura could have been suppressed, or the Mohammed cartoons, or the SWIFT story, or so many others. And how many copycat mass-shootings could be prevented if the press were banned from reporting them? Tell me how many lives the first amendment is worth, and then we can discuss the second. And then go on to how many lives the fourth, fifth, and sixth are worth, taking into account people killed by murderers who were walking the streets only because of those amendments.

Gun-related homicides in Japan (2008): 11
Gun-related homicides in the US (2008): 12,000

What’s so special about “gun-related”? Dead is dead. And when you compare total homicides, add suicides (to allow for the difference in reporting), and adjust for demographics, suddenly your difference disappears.