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		<title>By: Sammy Finkelman</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2012/11/21/open-thread-20/comment-page-13/#comment-1122269</link>
		<dc:creator>Sammy Finkelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 19:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is  The Week column about the problems the New York Times is having with the trend toward digital:

http://theweek.com/article/index/237251/the-new-york-times-latest-cutbacks-proof-its-digital-strategy-is-failing

One comment there, goes in part: &lt;blockquote&gt; ...The irony of the newspapers is the writers all thought they were saying something so unique, but it turns out they were all saying the same thing.

When it was print, there were natural monopolies, and captive audiences, and the journolists thought they were the value, but maybe it was actually the monopoly and the want ads.

Local ads have largely disappeared with Craig&#039;s list and EBay. With the internet, there is no need for sending all the information to the captured base.

All of these news sites need to collapse down for national news, and have a few companies providing that news for competition.

Same needs to happen at the state level.

What&#039;s left is local news. &lt;/blockquote&gt; I don&#039;t agree it needs to happen, but their business model is in trouble.

Now the fact is, print ads are better than digital ads. 

But better then both is direct mail, so maybe people could agree to have articles mailed to them, together with advertisements, paid for by the advertiser(s) with the newspaper collecting a fee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is  The Week column about the problems the New York Times is having with the trend toward digital:</p>
<p><a href="http://theweek.com/article/index/237251/the-new-york-times-latest-cutbacks-proof-its-digital-strategy-is-failing" rel="nofollow">http://theweek.com/article/index/237251/the-new-york-times-latest-cutbacks-proof-its-digital-strategy-is-failing</a></p>
<p>One comment there, goes in part:<br />
<blockquote> &#8230;The irony of the newspapers is the writers all thought they were saying something so unique, but it turns out they were all saying the same thing.</p>
<p>When it was print, there were natural monopolies, and captive audiences, and the journolists thought they were the value, but maybe it was actually the monopoly and the want ads.</p>
<p>Local ads have largely disappeared with Craig&#8217;s list and EBay. With the internet, there is no need for sending all the information to the captured base.</p>
<p>All of these news sites need to collapse down for national news, and have a few companies providing that news for competition.</p>
<p>Same needs to happen at the state level.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s left is local news. </p></blockquote>
<p> I don&#8217;t agree it needs to happen, but their business model is in trouble.</p>
<p>Now the fact is, print ads are better than digital ads. </p>
<p>But better then both is direct mail, so maybe people could agree to have articles mailed to them, together with advertisements, paid for by the advertiser(s) with the newspaper collecting a fee.</p>
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		<title>By: Sammy Finkelman</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2012/11/21/open-thread-20/comment-page-13/#comment-1121469</link>
		<dc:creator>Sammy Finkelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 22:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somebody tell Kate Middleton she needs to take Vitamin B6 - because the doctors won&#039;t tell her.  

And perhaps something else she may be short on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somebody tell Kate Middleton she needs to take Vitamin B6 &#8211; because the doctors won&#8217;t tell her.  </p>
<p>And perhaps something else she may be short on.</p>
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		<title>By: Sammy Finkelman</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2012/11/21/open-thread-20/comment-page-13/#comment-1117120</link>
		<dc:creator>Sammy Finkelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2012 20:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Map of Illinois Congressional District 2 (not finely detailed - probably taken from the Congressional District Atlas)

http://elections.il.gov/Downloads/VotingInformation/PDF/2011Districts/2011CongDist2.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Map of Illinois Congressional District 2 (not finely detailed &#8211; probably taken from the Congressional District Atlas)</p>
<p><a href="http://elections.il.gov/Downloads/VotingInformation/PDF/2011Districts/2011CongDist2.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://elections.il.gov/Downloads/VotingInformation/PDF/2011Districts/2011CongDist2.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: mg</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2012/11/21/open-thread-20/comment-page-13/#comment-1116117</link>
		<dc:creator>mg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 02:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The non voting public should have enough votes to win elections.
One would think Ailes and Rove could figure out how. Rove was probably responsible for a few million staying home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The non voting public should have enough votes to win elections.<br />
One would think Ailes and Rove could figure out how. Rove was probably responsible for a few million staying home.</p>
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		<title>By: gary gulrud</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2012/11/21/open-thread-20/comment-page-13/#comment-1116116</link>
		<dc:creator>gary gulrud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 02:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>305.  51% voted versus 53% in 1980.  Guess having a wretched incumbent doesn&#039;t guarantee interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>305.  51% voted versus 53% in 1980.  Guess having a wretched incumbent doesn&#8217;t guarantee interest.</p>
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		<title>By: narciso</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2012/11/21/open-thread-20/comment-page-13/#comment-1116090</link>
		<dc:creator>narciso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 01:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well one has to consider the natural growth of the voting age population, then subtract about 10 million total voters, and then he&#039;s at best tied with Obama,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well one has to consider the natural growth of the voting age population, then subtract about 10 million total voters, and then he&#8217;s at best tied with Obama,</p>
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		<title>By: Gerald A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerald A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 01:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I was pointing out after the election, they were still counting votes and Romney would wind up with about the same national total as McCain.  He actually did a little better nationally, as Kimberly Strassel pointed out today, and if CA is excluded his out performance vs. McCain increases.  People have to stop saying Romney got 3 million less votes than McCain.  Bill O&#039;Reilly just repeated the 3 million less thing last week.

Rather than thinking about changing the pro-life message the Republicans need to think about ways to get more minority voters, as Strassel points out.  The obvious place to start is with Asians, a group Bush carried, where Romney got creamed worse than with Hispanics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I was pointing out after the election, they were still counting votes and Romney would wind up with about the same national total as McCain.  He actually did a little better nationally, as Kimberly Strassel pointed out today, and if CA is excluded his out performance vs. McCain increases.  People have to stop saying Romney got 3 million less votes than McCain.  Bill O&#8217;Reilly just repeated the 3 million less thing last week.</p>
<p>Rather than thinking about changing the pro-life message the Republicans need to think about ways to get more minority voters, as Strassel points out.  The obvious place to start is with Asians, a group Bush carried, where Romney got creamed worse than with Hispanics.</p>
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		<title>By: daleyrocks</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2012/11/21/open-thread-20/comment-page-13/#comment-1116030</link>
		<dc:creator>daleyrocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2012 21:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Petraeus was silebnt a whole year.&quot;

Sammy - Are you suggesting it was somehow strange for Petraeus not to follow the great American tradition of Directors of the CIA maintaining high public profiles, especially about covert operations?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Petraeus was silebnt a whole year.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sammy &#8211; Are you suggesting it was somehow strange for Petraeus not to follow the great American tradition of Directors of the CIA maintaining high public profiles, especially about covert operations?</p>
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		<title>By: daleyrocks</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2012/11/21/open-thread-20/comment-page-13/#comment-1116029</link>
		<dc:creator>daleyrocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2012 21:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We’re ignoring him. But he isn’t oignoring Obama.&quot;


Sammy - Whatever you say. I&#039;m sure ignoring Morsi is why Clinton and Obama continued to publicly denounce the video in public appearances and speeches and even conducted and advertising campaign about it in Pakistan. Plus all those rumors about releasing the Blind Sheik have so far turned out to be just rumors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We’re ignoring him. But he isn’t oignoring Obama.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sammy &#8211; Whatever you say. I&#8217;m sure ignoring Morsi is why Clinton and Obama continued to publicly denounce the video in public appearances and speeches and even conducted and advertising campaign about it in Pakistan. Plus all those rumors about releasing the Blind Sheik have so far turned out to be just rumors.</p>
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		<title>By: Sammy Finkelman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sammy Finkelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2012 20:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>267.. Comment by Kevin M (bf8ad7) — 11/22/2012 @ 6:25 pm 

&lt;i&gt; Sammy, I cannot begin to tell you how little I care about the Petraeus scandal, unless its about how Obama used this fine man’s petty affair to blackmail Petraeus into silence before the election. &lt;/i&gt;

I think it;s about something bigger, but I think it&#039;s about how the moles got rid of Petraeus before Petraeus could discover and get of the moles.

Petraeus was silebnt a whole year. They told him that was what a CIA Director was supposed to be. I think he may have had orders from Clapper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>267.. Comment by Kevin M (bf8ad7) — 11/22/2012 @ 6:25 pm </p>
<p><i> Sammy, I cannot begin to tell you how little I care about the Petraeus scandal, unless its about how Obama used this fine man’s petty affair to blackmail Petraeus into silence before the election. </i></p>
<p>I think it;s about something bigger, but I think it&#8217;s about how the moles got rid of Petraeus before Petraeus could discover and get of the moles.</p>
<p>Petraeus was silebnt a whole year. They told him that was what a CIA Director was supposed to be. I think he may have had orders from Clapper.</p>
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