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11/18/2012

Football Sunday

Filed under: General — JD @ 4:15 pm

[Guest post by JD]

Notre Dame is the #1 ranked team in college football in almost 20 years.

The Patriots put it all together today. GB, Houston, Atlanta, and Tampa had surprisingly close games. Dallas should have lost.

Notre Dame is #1.

– JD

51 Responses to “Football Sunday”

  1. Go USC.

    mg (31009b)

  2. Go Beavers.

    Leviticus (17b7a5)

  3. Fun watching Stanford defeat Oregon last night!

    Walter (7120e4)

  4. Anyone cheering for the Pittsburgh Bumblebees?

    SPQR (768505)

  5. Our Lady is indeed working miracles for the Irish. Witness her arranging for Matt Barkley to miss next week’s big game against USC.

    JVW (4826a9)

  6. Tampa Bay was a pick em

    Go USC is right

    FLBuckeye (33c3f5)

  7. Hurray for the Irish!

    Lots of my Irish Catholic relatives went there.

    Patricia (be0117)

  8. The Badgers played a tough game and great 4th quarter to tie OSU, then looked like they had used up 110% of their emotion when OT came along. Still, they played tough and may have a chance in the Big 10 championship game (as OSU and PSU can’t go).

    The Badgers started a 5th yr sr. quarterback who had not started since high school until last week.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  9. I ho[e everyone noticed how I resisted gloating after A&M beat Alabama.

    By the way, A&M beat Alabama. It was in all the papers a week ago, that A&M beat Alabama.

    Then, Baylor beat Kansas State. A week after A&M beat Alabama.

    Not to gloat or anything, but A&M beat Alabama and I did not say a word about A&M beating Alabama until more than a week after A&M beat Alabama.

    Ag80 (b2c81f)

  10. Of course, hope, not ho[e.

    Ag80 (b2c81f)

  11. Ag80

    Big 10 allows you to gloat all you want.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  12. If it isn’t SEC it isn’t FOOTBALL…

    All the rest of the so-called conferences are jokes. The only team that can beat an SEC team is another SEC team. We will see that played out again in the bowl season early next year.

    WarEagle82 (97b777)

  13. I don’t know, WarEagle82. I recently heard somewhere that Texas A&M beat Alabama. Seems to me that only one year ago A&M was a Big 12 team, so I’m not too sure that the SEC is invulnerable to quality opponents from other conferences.

    JVW (4826a9)

  14. Why in the world would Maryland spend $50 million in fines to leave the ACC where they consistently finish at or near the bottom of a terrible conference to go to the Big 10 where they will certainly continue to finish at or near the botttom of the conference?

    Don’t taxpayer supported colleges have better things to do with their money than waste it on losing football games in front of a bigger audience?

    Maryland “football” is a JOKE!

    WarEagle82 (97b777)

  15. Why in the world would Maryland spend $50 million in fines to leave the ACC where they consistently finish at or near the bottom of a terrible conference to go to the Big 10 where they will certainly continue to finish at or near the botttom of the conference?

    Um, maybe because the payout from the Big 10 Network for each school is $7.2 million? I think the payout from the ACC TV Network is something like $0, give or take a few bucks.

    JVW (4826a9)

  16. And if the experience that Utah, Colorado, Nebraska, Texas A&M, Missouri, and other conference bolters is any guide, the conference will pick up that $50 million exit fee.

    JVW (4826a9)

  17. Wittek has a better arm than Barkley but much less experience. They have yet to put together a full game this year. Maybe this is it. I’ve been to several SC-ND games where ND was #1.

    Mike K (326cba)

  18. They say there’s no Republican way or Democrat way to fix potholes. (There is, but that’s for another thread.) So is there a Catholic way or a Protestant way to play football?

    Milhouse (15b6fd)

  19. So is there a Catholic way or a Protestant way to play football?

    Dunno. Been a long time since Notre Dame or Boston College played Southern Methodist or Baylor.

    JVW (4826a9)

  20. Well, JVW, if my memory serves me correctly, Texas A&M is an SEC team at this point. But if facts and reality don’t mean anything to you that is okay. That is the new norm at the start of Jimmy Carter’s 2nd term…

    BCS Standings
    1 Notre Dame
    2 SEC – Alabama
    3 SEC – Georgia
    4 SEC – Florida
    5 Oregon (Perpetually over-rated west coast team)
    6 Kansas State
    7 SEC – LSU
    8 Stanford
    9 SEC – Texas A&M
    10 Florida State

    WarEagle82 (97b777)

  21. So, in 6 or 7 years, Maryland might break even on the $50 million fine, assuming nothing else changes.

    Frankly, I don’t care where Maryland loses. The only thing you can count on is that they will lose and lose big on a regular basis.

    If they want to pay $50 million to get beat by a different bunch of teams, then that must make since to liberal academics in a left-wing state…

    WarEagle82 (97b777)

  22. By the way, Milhouse, there are differences in the way Republicans and Democrats fix potholes. A Republican city manager calls a gravel & asphalt company and schedules them show up, fill the hole, and then be done with it. The Democrat mayor designates the task to the Director of Street Engineering who passes the task along to the Assistant Director for South Side Neighborhoods who suddenly realizes that the street in question is actually on the east side of town so he passes it on to the Acting Director for East Side Neighborhoods who requests an environmental impact study and then takes the results to a neighborhood council meeting where it is suggested that filling the pothole might negatively affect the LBGTQ community, so the mayor and council have to pony up some money to build the Barney Frank Community Center but then minority groups protest that their potholes have been ignored so more money has to go to endow the Maxine Waters Scholarship in Urban Planning and Race Hustling at the local univeristy, at which point someone turns the task over to the mayor’s brother-in-law in a no-bid contract, and the brother-in-law then calls the same gravel and asphalt company that the Republican city manager called and offers them 30% more for the job in return for a 15% kickback to the local machine. Meanwhile, the city unions holler so the mayor and council have to promise to stop sending that work out to private companies and instead form a Rapid Pothole Team within the city engineer corps.

    JVW (4826a9)

  23. I don’t know who will play Notre Dame in the national championship, as they probably will, but I do know they will get beat like a drum.

    Assuming they can beat USC, which is not a given.

    Ag80 (b2c81f)

  24. Two things, WarEagle82: (1) I acknowledged that it was last year that A&M was in the Big 12. If you think that the very fact of moving them to the SEC suddenly made them better, well, there’s no end to the delusions of the SEC. (2) Note my other comment in which I pointed out that the Big 10 will likely pay the $50 million fine (just like the SEC paid the fees for Mizzou and A&M to leave the Big 12), so it won’t be “6 or 7 years” for Maryland to break even, they’ll be making money right off the bat. Reading comprehension, sir, but perhaps that is not on the curriculum at Auburn.

    JVW (4826a9)

  25. JVW, that’s more or less verbatim the screed I started writing, but then substituted with “(There is, but that’s for another thread)”

    Milhouse (15b6fd)

  26. JVW – SEC football fans tend to enjoy venting their spleens and telling the world how awesome they are. It is a thing.

    JD (318f81)

  27. Milhouse said:

    They say there’s no Republican way or Democrat way to fix potholes. (There is, but that’s for another thread.) So is there a Catholic way or a Protestant way to play football?

    Yes. The Catholic way is to ignore the coach and do whatever you want. The Protestant way is to ignore the Coach and do whatever you want and burn in hell.

    Ag80 (b2c81f)

  28. Hey WarEagle, how’s Auburn doing this season? Guess they couldn’t afford the right quarterback this season after paying so much for Cam Newton…

    Leviticus (17b7a5)

  29. I mean, I happen to think the SEC is the best conference hands down; but there are scrappy badass programs everywhere.

    The big point is, if I were an Auburn fan I wouldn’t be talking smack to anybody.

    Leviticus (17b7a5)

  30. I mean, I happen to think the SEC is the best conference hands down; but there are scrappy badass programs everywhere

    This year, and for several before. But this has not always been the case, nor will it remain that way.

    JD (318f81)

  31. Yeah, I wouldn’t bank on the permanence of something like that. Ebbs and flows.

    Leviticus (17b7a5)

  32. While A&M was in the Big 12 last year, they had a different coach and philosophy, and that changed when Sumlin took over. Also, they got hammered in the opener against Florida, an SEC team, and learned quickly that they had to be tougher. They adjusted, something they did not do the last 10 years in the Big 12.

    As for Notre Dame, they will get pounded in the BCS game against the SEC champion, who has to compete in a semifinal in two weeks, while the Irish sit on their behinds waiting…..

    However, they do have to win at USC, something they haven’t done in about 10 years…..so, here’s to Tommy Trojan, hoping he stabs the sword into the Leprechaun…..

    reff (4dcda2)

  33. Oh, and all of you should enjoy the Les Miles postgame from this week….find it on youtube…

    GEAUX TIGERS!!!

    reff (4dcda2)

  34. They adjusted, something they did not do the last 10 years in the Big 12.

    They didn’t have Sumlin then either.

    JD (318f81)

  35. They adjusted, something they did not do the last 10 years in the Big 12.

    So, they made adjustments because they are in the SEC, or because of Sumlin?

    JD (318f81)

  36. Both….Mike Sherman is an excellent coach, with successes in college and pro, but, the Big 12 is a very different league than the SEC (notice I did not say better or worse–talent decides which is better, and I know where the talent is, but the computers don’t seem to know) and if A&M had continued to try to play Big 12 ball, they would have gotten clobbered. But, while it looks like they play some type of Big12 offense, it is on defense they have adjusted, and that has as much to do with Sumlin as anything. Remember, most of the players there now were there a year ago, especially the starters, so, the change in attitude came two ways in my mind: Sumlin and the truth of the SEC.

    Consider it this was as well: how did Stanford stay with Oregon last night? They got bigger, FASTER, and stronger on defense. That was an SEC style defense last night, reminding me of Auburn and LSU crushing Oregon when they played defensively. The only chance Notre Dame has against the SEC champion will be defensively, but, I don’t think they have seen the speed on offense that Alabama and Georgia will bring.

    That said, that is why they play the game….

    reff (4dcda2)

  37. Too bad for the kids at Ohio State, nice season, now go home.

    mg (31009b)

  38. Gronk broke his arm, Hernandez better be ready. Go Pats.

    mg (31009b)

  39. 30.I mean, I happen to think the SEC is the best conference hands down; but there are scrappy badass programs everywhere

    This year, and for several before. But this has not always been the case, nor will it remain that way.

    Comment by JD — 11/18/2012 @ 9:09 pm

    To me the big 8 was the best – Colorado, Oklahoms, Nebraska winning nearly 25% of the championships in the last 40 years

    The SEC has won 11 with 50% more teams

    Also the Big 8 was in 50% the championship games since 1970

    However combinging the SEC and the Big 8 they are ccollege football

    EPWJ (e83e82)

  40. Jerry Jones sucks.

    Kevin P. (97b78a)

  41. LOL. Now ND only have to beat Alabama or UGA to get the NC… A lowly SEC team. Piece o’ cake.

    If you think that the very fact of moving them to the SEC suddenly made them better, well, there’s no end to the delusions of the SEC.

    LOL, if you imagine that the SEC selected THEM out of all the alternatives to joining, because we thought they MIGHT someday be SEC caliber, as opposed to the notion that they had already risen to SEC caliber, then there is no end to your own homer delusions.

    Missouri, you might make that argument with…. TA&M, quite clearly not.

    Reading comprehension, sir, but perhaps that is not on the curriculum at Auburn.

    This is rich, coming from a fan of one of the two conferences regularly graduating alumni who apparently can’t count to/above ten with any reliable accuracy. (:^9

    The big point is, if I were an Auburn fan I wouldn’t be talking smack to anybody.

    BWAAAAAAhahahahahahhaaa….

    I hate Auburn, but it’s pretty absurd to use a down year to sneer at a program that’s managed two undefeated seasons in 8 years.

    Has [insert your pet team here] managed even one? EVER? They certainly haven’t gotten two the last decade and more…

    I mean, here in the SEC we get to sneer at them, but even there, it’s tempered with respect due to a normally challenging foe.

    To me the big 8 was the best – Colorado, Oklahoms, Nebraska winning nearly 25% of the championships in the last 40 years

    I believe you can make some arguments that the Big 8 WAS the best, but part of that is tied to zero academic standards — once they formed the Big 12 they added academic standards to their football programs to bring them in line with everyone else in the nation, and the level of their football performance has suffered substantially. You’ve only managed 2 since the Big Twelvedy-Lebbbin was formed 16 years ago.

    The SEC has won 11 with 50% more teams

    Demonstrating that the SEC as a WHOLE is great, and not just 2-3 programs at a time. It’s why the SEC is the greatest conference ever at this time — each member excels, and each year, you can’t tell which one will truly be the best… but you can bet that at least several of them will be The Teams To Beat.

    P.S., I’d argue the SEC has EARNED *12* — 2004 should have been a split championship, Auburn certainly earned a piece of it, and it was outright anti-SEC bias that cheated them out of it.

    Note also that Alabama has the record number of NCs at the moment since the “modern era” (1936) at 9 (ND has 8), making an Alabama-ND game of some significance for bragging rights.

    IGotBupkis, Legally Defined Cyberbully in All 57 States (8e2a3d)

  42. reff – as for ND never beating USC in the Coliseum, I seem to recall sitting in the rain a couple of years back and watching it happen.

    But I don’t disagree that if ND wins it will get pounded by whoever is no. 2.

    Roscoe (15d927)

  43. In the history of the universe, the preeminence of athletic conferences comes and goes. Even since 2000 one year the Big 10 was 5-2 in bowl games.

    And Republicans once held the presidency, though not since “all the way back” in 2008. (though that does seem like an eternity for good reason).

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  44. In the history of the universe, the preeminence of athletic conferences comes and goes.

    Penn State fan, huh? (:-D

    IGotBupkis, Legally Defined Cyberbully in All 57 States (8e2a3d)

  45. Actually born in Ohio, went to Wisconsin, moved to Philadelphia, and dad’s from Kentucky (NOT Louisville).

    I am a Big Ten Fan in decreasing order from WI, OSU, then PSU, but loyalties get switched around a bit if one team has a chance to go undefeated.

    But B-Ball is Kentucky, WI, Temple. Chaney was a class act, so is Dunphy.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  46. 36, Reff, Mike Sherman wasn’t so great in GB. His teams were win with wornout veterans and no development of the rookies like under McCarthy. Look at D-backs and linebackers without their star veterans.

    PCD (1d8b6d)

  47. Reff:

    Notre Dame won at USC just 2 years ago.

    Derpy McDerpalot (2aa6fe)

  48. So is there a Catholic way or a Protestant way to play football?

    Dunno, but we learned the ND fight song in Catholic grade school! Our favorite “hymn.”

    Patricia (be0117)

  49. Go Broncos! Yeah buddy, I live in Colorado now. No more southern town for me! I’ve had enough of that.

    Tillman (51d7aa)

  50. The B1G teams get $22.6 million each when you include all of their TV deals.
    http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/29356/big-ten-schools-see-increased-revenue

    FLBuckeye (33c3f5)

  51. Why did Oregon have to lose? Alabama – Notre Dame, which is probably the championship game, will be a snore-athon. Maybe as bad as last year or even worse.

    Gerald A (f26857)


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