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	<title>Comments on: What Does It Mean to &#8220;Return to First Principles&#8221; And How Is It Going to Happen?</title>
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		<title>By: IGotBupkis, Legally Defined Cyberbully in all 57 States</title>
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		<dc:creator>IGotBupkis, Legally Defined Cyberbully in all 57 States</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2012 14:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Well, what you hear from the conservative talking heads, the RNC, and the Republican politicians is that conservative principles embody the “traditional American values” of independence, self-reliance, and individual freedom (which is, conveniently, left undefined.) Yet these same politicans vote for an ever-increasing State and the consequent curtailment of our individual liberties. There is nothing in the conservative platform that represents a plan to reduce government.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You confuse the RINOs in the GOP with the true conservatives. They aren&#039;t the same by a long shot. That&#039;s part of what the Tea Party was about, people getting sick and tired of lipsync and nothing else.

Note also that the Tea Party movement has been partly co-opted by some people who are, if not RINOs, then at least not necessarily conservatives. Michelle Bachman, for example, leads something called the &quot;Tea Party&quot;, which has nothing whatsoever to do with the original groups that were a grass-roots development.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>Well, what you hear from the conservative talking heads, the RNC, and the Republican politicians is that conservative principles embody the “traditional American values” of independence, self-reliance, and individual freedom (which is, conveniently, left undefined.) Yet these same politicans vote for an ever-increasing State and the consequent curtailment of our individual liberties. There is nothing in the conservative platform that represents a plan to reduce government.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>You confuse the RINOs in the GOP with the true conservatives. They aren&#8217;t the same by a long shot. That&#8217;s part of what the Tea Party was about, people getting sick and tired of lipsync and nothing else.</p>
<p>Note also that the Tea Party movement has been partly co-opted by some people who are, if not RINOs, then at least not necessarily conservatives. Michelle Bachman, for example, leads something called the &#8220;Tea Party&#8221;, which has nothing whatsoever to do with the original groups that were a grass-roots development.</p>
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		<title>By: IGotBupkis, Legally Defined Cyberbully in all 57 States</title>
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		<dc:creator>IGotBupkis, Legally Defined Cyberbully in all 57 States</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2012 14:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;PS: the most sensible way to buy land for a large capital project such as a road or pipeline, is to make it a package deal; everybody’s payout depends on the entire parcel being sold. That way the holdout is holding out on everyone, and will come under pressure from his neighbours to see sense. Or if he’s demanding crazy money, route around him, and around as many of his neighbours as you have to, and they don’t get their bonanza either.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
LOL: 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0030993/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;You Can&#039;t Take It With You...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>PS: the most sensible way to buy land for a large capital project such as a road or pipeline, is to make it a package deal; everybody’s payout depends on the entire parcel being sold. That way the holdout is holding out on everyone, and will come under pressure from his neighbours to see sense. Or if he’s demanding crazy money, route around him, and around as many of his neighbours as you have to, and they don’t get their bonanza either.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>LOL:<br />
<a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0030993/" rel="nofollow">You Can&#8217;t Take It With You&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: askeptic</title>
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		<dc:creator>askeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 04:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;...the Republicans cannot repudiate socialism because they believe in the same guiding ethical principles as the socialists. The “conservatives” will not — on a fundamental, moral level — challenge the moral foundation of the socialists that justifies the socialists’ goals...&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

This lies at the heart of the conflict beginning back in the Fifties between the East-coast Establishment GOP pesonified by Ike, and then Rockefeller; and the hard-core Conservatives led by Taft, and then Goldwater.
The Est-GOP refused to repudiate the New Deal, and set out to accomplish the same goals but scaled-down:  Not so fast, not so expensive.

This was also a hallmark of the Congressional GOP in the out-years of &#039;54-&#039;94, where the operative phrase was to go along to get along, and Bob Dole earned the moniker as The Tax-Collector for the Welfare State.

This is still the division between the contemporary Establishment-GOP, and the TEA-Party GOP.  The Establishment is Dem-lite, whereas the TEA-Party is looking more and more as grass-roots Federalists (see:  Federalist Society), and that frightens the Hell out of those on Capitol Hill that want to Tax and Tax, Spend and Spend, Elect and Elect; just not quite on the same pace as Harry Reid &amp; Co.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;&#8230;the Republicans cannot repudiate socialism because they believe in the same guiding ethical principles as the socialists. The “conservatives” will not — on a fundamental, moral level — challenge the moral foundation of the socialists that justifies the socialists’ goals&#8230;&#8221;</i></p>
<p>This lies at the heart of the conflict beginning back in the Fifties between the East-coast Establishment GOP pesonified by Ike, and then Rockefeller; and the hard-core Conservatives led by Taft, and then Goldwater.<br />
The Est-GOP refused to repudiate the New Deal, and set out to accomplish the same goals but scaled-down:  Not so fast, not so expensive.</p>
<p>This was also a hallmark of the Congressional GOP in the out-years of &#8217;54-&#8217;94, where the operative phrase was to go along to get along, and Bob Dole earned the moniker as The Tax-Collector for the Welfare State.</p>
<p>This is still the division between the contemporary Establishment-GOP, and the TEA-Party GOP.  The Establishment is Dem-lite, whereas the TEA-Party is looking more and more as grass-roots Federalists (see:  Federalist Society), and that frightens the Hell out of those on Capitol Hill that want to Tax and Tax, Spend and Spend, Elect and Elect; just not quite on the same pace as Harry Reid &amp; Co.</p>
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		<title>By: Beldar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beldar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 04:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t revile Chief Justice Roberts for his decision on Obamacare. I think he was wrong on that occasion. I think he was driven to that error by a deep and generally laudable fidelity to some very old-fashioned and important principles of judicial self-limitation. 

Yes, it was an important case whose result mattered a great deal; yes, he ought to have known better. But none of my other heroes — and certainly none of my heroes as a lawyer! — is perfect either. All of us make mistakes. And I have zero doubt, none at all, that over a period measured in decades, not years or even presidential terms, John Roberts&#039; service on the SCOTUS will be for conservatives what Dwight Eisenhower&#039;s service as SACEUR was to the European Theater in WW2: low-key, steady, competent (albeit not mistake-free), and utterly indispensable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t revile Chief Justice Roberts for his decision on Obamacare. I think he was wrong on that occasion. I think he was driven to that error by a deep and generally laudable fidelity to some very old-fashioned and important principles of judicial self-limitation. </p>
<p>Yes, it was an important case whose result mattered a great deal; yes, he ought to have known better. But none of my other heroes — and certainly none of my heroes as a lawyer! — is perfect either. All of us make mistakes. And I have zero doubt, none at all, that over a period measured in decades, not years or even presidential terms, John Roberts&#8217; service on the SCOTUS will be for conservatives what Dwight Eisenhower&#8217;s service as SACEUR was to the European Theater in WW2: low-key, steady, competent (albeit not mistake-free), and utterly indispensable.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon Y. Mous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon Y. Mous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 02:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Some pipelines would be permitted if for a public use, even under the Constitutional view. But I don’t support a view of the Constitution that says we ignore Constitutional provisions just because the oil and gas industry says we need to.&lt;/i&gt;

When they built the Alaska pipeline, it wasn&#039;t just because the oil &amp; gas industry said so. The government sold oil leases on public lands, but that didn&#039;t mean they wanted them building refineries there. So, a pipeline had to be built to take the oil from the wells to the refineries. One way to do it would be for the government themselves to build, own and maintain all that pipe. But, isn&#039;t it better if they say that the companies should be responsible for building and maintaining it themselves? But, that can&#039;t happen without using eminent domain to allow the land to be bought, or at least an easement granted to the oil company in question.

Given all that, does the use of the word &quot;use&quot; in the constitution really prohibit that kind of arrangement? I think not. But, if not, how do you draw the line? If you can use eminent domain to build a pipeline, how about a marina? How about other types of development? Again, I do not think the distinction you are making (use vs benefit), as I understand it, does the trick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Some pipelines would be permitted if for a public use, even under the Constitutional view. But I don’t support a view of the Constitution that says we ignore Constitutional provisions just because the oil and gas industry says we need to.</i></p>
<p>When they built the Alaska pipeline, it wasn&#8217;t just because the oil &amp; gas industry said so. The government sold oil leases on public lands, but that didn&#8217;t mean they wanted them building refineries there. So, a pipeline had to be built to take the oil from the wells to the refineries. One way to do it would be for the government themselves to build, own and maintain all that pipe. But, isn&#8217;t it better if they say that the companies should be responsible for building and maintaining it themselves? But, that can&#8217;t happen without using eminent domain to allow the land to be bought, or at least an easement granted to the oil company in question.</p>
<p>Given all that, does the use of the word &#8220;use&#8221; in the constitution really prohibit that kind of arrangement? I think not. But, if not, how do you draw the line? If you can use eminent domain to build a pipeline, how about a marina? How about other types of development? Again, I do not think the distinction you are making (use vs benefit), as I understand it, does the trick.</p>
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		<title>By: J.P.</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There is no way to reconcile this philosophy [socialism] with the attitude that made America great: individualism and freedom.&quot;

Of course you can&#039;t. So why do &quot;conservatives&quot; think that we &lt;i&gt;can&lt;/i&gt;? 

Since you&#039;re considering &quot;first principles&quot;, allow me to quote Ayn Rand on not &quot;first&quot; principles, but principals in general and see if you might think that any (or all) of these observations might be applicable to the conservatives&#039; latest ass-whoopin&#039;:

1. In any conflict between two men (or two groups) who hold the same basic principles, it is the more consistent one who wins.

2. In any collaboration between two men (or two groups) who hold different basic principles, it is the more evil or irrational one who wins.

3. When opposite basic principles are clearly and openly defined, it works to the advantage of the rational side; when they are not clearly defined, but are hidden or evaded, it works to the advantage of the irrational side.


You can blame Romney for running his campaign foolishly or you can blame Obama and the socialists for being the Chicago-style thugs that they&#039;ve become or you can come to another conclusion: Has it dawned on you that the socialists and the conservatives in Congress have essentially merged, not merely politically, but ethically? I mean, all that we actually have to choose from are the socialists and socialist lites. This was &lt;i&gt;precisely&lt;/i&gt; the choice offered to the America in the recent elections: the man who shoved Obamacare up our collective posteriors or the man who (&lt;i&gt;unrepentantly&lt;/i&gt;, I might add) signed its legislative model into law in Massachusetts. The difference is... &lt;i&gt;what&lt;/i&gt;, exactly? 

The socialists win -- &lt;i&gt;and will continue to win&lt;/i&gt; -- because they&#039;re more consistent with respect to their ideology of big government. And the Republicans continue to believe that their ideology embodies &quot;limited&quot; or &quot;small&quot; government? Really? All that the Ryan plan does is demonstrate how to pay for the socialist state within a budget after a certain amount of continued deficit spending. Wow. What a concept. But &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;roll back&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; the &quot;oversized government&quot;? Cut spending? Eliminate bureaucracies and regulation of the economy? Oh, puhleeze.  

If you&#039;re interested in a discussion of &quot;first principles&quot;, then one must ask how &quot;limited&quot; can limited government ever become if one holds the same moral ideals, the same fundamental philosophical principles, as the socialists? Socialism is based on the ethical principle of altruism, which is the idea that man does not live for himself, but for others. Socialism is merely the political implementation of that ideal. The socialists are supremely confident that such a principle would enable their cherished political end result of egalitarianism and thus, &quot;social justice&quot;. To them, this is a perfectly rational -- and, more importantly, &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;moral&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; -- goal and they are tireless in their pursuit of it. Verily, they are as dogmatic about it as radical Islamists.

What is the &quot;conservative&quot; moral ideal based upon? That&#039;s a good question. Well, what you &lt;i&gt;hear&lt;/i&gt; from the conservative talking heads, the RNC, and the Republican politicians is that conservative principles embody the &quot;traditional American values&quot; of independence, self-reliance, and individual freedom (which is, conveniently, left undefined.) Yet these same politicans &lt;i&gt;vote&lt;/i&gt; for an ever-increasing State and the consequent curtailment of our individual liberties. There is &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;nothing&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; in the conservative platform that represents a plan to &lt;i&gt;reduce&lt;/i&gt; government. Rather, it is merely filled with empty bromides about &quot;limited&quot; government. So if &quot;conservatives&quot; are the silent majority that conservatives seem to think that they are and their ideals actually embody what they claim that they do, then why would there ever be a disconnect between the conservative voters and the conservative politicians?

The sad answer is that there isn&#039;t a disconnect; the conservative politicians DO represent their constituencies. It&#039;s that their constituencies are ethically inconsistent. How many &quot;conservative&quot; farmers want our borders secured, yet hire illegals to work on their farms? How many businesses screech about &quot;unjust&quot; regulations from Washington, yet lobby for price supports, subsidies and tax breaks? How many people complain about the quality of public education, yet routinely vote to increase funding to the educational bureaucracy? How many &quot;conservatives&quot; -- including the Great Communicator himself -- shout against the evils of socialism as being a cancer upon the body politic, yet agree that there MUST be &quot;some&quot; sort of government funded &quot;safety net&quot; for the poor, the aged, the children, the &quot;victims&quot; of inequality? How many Republicans will vote to ELIMINATE the food stamp program, breakfast and lunch programs for school children, student loan programs to minorities and women, funding for small-business start ups, or the Dept. of Education at the federal, state or local level?

A lot? No, relatively few actually or they would certainly have recognized the threat to their individual liberties and would have already acted to repeal such ethical and political travesties when they were in control of the government. By now, you could have cited the historical examples of them doing so -- but you can&#039;t because they haven&#039;t. They don&#039;t see the ethical principles of socialism (the cause) as the problem, yet they can&#039;t help but help but rail about socialism&#039;s results (i.e., the effect.) 

Regrettably, though, you are left with the only logical, obvious and (for the conservatives, uncomfortable) conclusion: the Republicans cannot repudiate socialism because they believe in the same guiding ethical principles as the socialists. The &quot;conservatives&quot; will not -- on a fundamental, moral level -- challenge the moral foundation of the socialists that justifies the socialists&#039; goals. This is the flaw, the MORAL flaw, of the &quot;conservatives&quot;. THIS is why they lost and will continue to lose elections. Implicitly or explicitly, conservatives believe &lt;i&gt;on some level&lt;/i&gt; in the tenets of altruism, i.e., that we &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; our brother&#039;s keeper. But if the Republicans believe and operate on this principle, then they&#039;re ethically no different than the socialists.  

If these two political parties share a common belief in a First Principle -- and they DO -- then then &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt; of Rand&#039;s observations listed above are true -- and the irrational, evil, and yet, consistent party wins. And always will. You &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;cannot&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; build a nation of free and independent citizens upon a foundation of altruist ideals. It &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;cannot&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; work and I offer the state of modern conservatism as proof. Obama&#039;s unprecedented rape of the economy, imperial legislation and arrogant anti-American bigotry merely overshadows the ridiculous fiscal irresponsibility, regulatory lunacy, privacy-invasion-in-the-name-of-security and the &quot;compassionate&quot; conservatism of Bush.  

If you embrace the notion that you are your brother&#039;s keeper -- that, as a people, Americans are ethically responsible for providing material support for people we don&#039;t even know or value, be it in your neighborhood, the next state over or on the next continent -- then two factors come into play and both are deadly.

A. There is a certain &quot;logic&quot; to the socialism: if a little socialism is good, then more is better. If the government creation of Social Security as a retirement system for the aged is a social value, then wouldn&#039;t government subsidization of their health care be an even better value? If marginal regulation of business for the &quot;safety&quot; of the consumer is good, then massive regulation makes them safer, right? If minimum regulation of pollution is a value to all, wouldn&#039;t forcing everyone to build a &quot;clean&quot; energy infrastructure be better?

Needless to say, when one (in this case, the conservatives) accept the tenets of socialism, it would be contradictory to argue for &quot;limited&quot; government, now wouldn&#039;t it? Also, there will never be any need for a &lt;i&gt;moral&lt;/i&gt; justification by your government betters when they call upon you to sacrifice your most cherished values for the &quot;good&quot; of others.

B. The laws of bureaucracy apply with a vengance, e.g., the bureaucracy will always act to protect itself. Furthermore, if morally the government is the answer to all of our social problems, then there will be no reason for the bureaucracy to think that it&#039;s ever going away -- which yields to another law (a variation on Pournelle&#039;s Iron Law of Bureaucracy): the bureaucracy will &lt;i&gt;always&lt;/i&gt; act to expand its scope and its power as justification for its continued existence. Do you really want an IPAB, let alone, have it rule your life &lt;i&gt;forever&lt;/i&gt;?

Altruism is &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; moral -- it is a morality of &lt;i&gt;cannibalism&lt;/i&gt;, based upon the sacrifice of the lives and effort of others -- thus it is &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; practical. If the State can sacrifice the life or the property of one, then in principle it can sacrifice the lives of all and it is simply a matter of time before &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;you&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; are the sacrifice. Socialism eventually metastasizes into either communism or fascism but both will consume its citizens. It is the unavoidable end result of a regime built upon moral cannibalism.

Until &quot;conservatives&quot; grasp that the moral principle that they&#039;re &quot;conserving&quot; is altruism, nothing with will change for the better. To quote Rand again, &quot;There can be no compromise on [First] [P]rinciples. There can be no compromise on moral issues. There can be no compromise on matters of knowledge, of truth, of rational conviction.&quot; Additionally, &quot;Contrary to the fanatical belief of its advocates, compromise [on basic principles] does not satisfy, but dissatisfies everybody; it does not lead to general fulfillment, but to general frustration; those who try to be all things to all men, end up by not being anything to anyone. And more: the partial victory of an unjust claim, encourages the claimant to try further; the partial defeat of a just claim, discourages and paralyzes the victim.&quot;

Sound familiar?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There is no way to reconcile this philosophy [socialism] with the attitude that made America great: individualism and freedom.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course you can&#8217;t. So why do &#8220;conservatives&#8221; think that we <i>can</i>? </p>
<p>Since you&#8217;re considering &#8220;first principles&#8221;, allow me to quote Ayn Rand on not &#8220;first&#8221; principles, but principals in general and see if you might think that any (or all) of these observations might be applicable to the conservatives&#8217; latest ass-whoopin&#8217;:</p>
<p>1. In any conflict between two men (or two groups) who hold the same basic principles, it is the more consistent one who wins.</p>
<p>2. In any collaboration between two men (or two groups) who hold different basic principles, it is the more evil or irrational one who wins.</p>
<p>3. When opposite basic principles are clearly and openly defined, it works to the advantage of the rational side; when they are not clearly defined, but are hidden or evaded, it works to the advantage of the irrational side.</p>
<p>You can blame Romney for running his campaign foolishly or you can blame Obama and the socialists for being the Chicago-style thugs that they&#8217;ve become or you can come to another conclusion: Has it dawned on you that the socialists and the conservatives in Congress have essentially merged, not merely politically, but ethically? I mean, all that we actually have to choose from are the socialists and socialist lites. This was <i>precisely</i> the choice offered to the America in the recent elections: the man who shoved Obamacare up our collective posteriors or the man who (<i>unrepentantly</i>, I might add) signed its legislative model into law in Massachusetts. The difference is&#8230; <i>what</i>, exactly? </p>
<p>The socialists win &#8212; <i>and will continue to win</i> &#8212; because they&#8217;re more consistent with respect to their ideology of big government. And the Republicans continue to believe that their ideology embodies &#8220;limited&#8221; or &#8220;small&#8221; government? Really? All that the Ryan plan does is demonstrate how to pay for the socialist state within a budget after a certain amount of continued deficit spending. Wow. What a concept. But <i><b>roll back</b></i> the &#8220;oversized government&#8221;? Cut spending? Eliminate bureaucracies and regulation of the economy? Oh, puhleeze.  </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re interested in a discussion of &#8220;first principles&#8221;, then one must ask how &#8220;limited&#8221; can limited government ever become if one holds the same moral ideals, the same fundamental philosophical principles, as the socialists? Socialism is based on the ethical principle of altruism, which is the idea that man does not live for himself, but for others. Socialism is merely the political implementation of that ideal. The socialists are supremely confident that such a principle would enable their cherished political end result of egalitarianism and thus, &#8220;social justice&#8221;. To them, this is a perfectly rational &#8212; and, more importantly, <i><b>moral</b></i> &#8212; goal and they are tireless in their pursuit of it. Verily, they are as dogmatic about it as radical Islamists.</p>
<p>What is the &#8220;conservative&#8221; moral ideal based upon? That&#8217;s a good question. Well, what you <i>hear</i> from the conservative talking heads, the RNC, and the Republican politicians is that conservative principles embody the &#8220;traditional American values&#8221; of independence, self-reliance, and individual freedom (which is, conveniently, left undefined.) Yet these same politicans <i>vote</i> for an ever-increasing State and the consequent curtailment of our individual liberties. There is <i><b>nothing</b></i> in the conservative platform that represents a plan to <i>reduce</i> government. Rather, it is merely filled with empty bromides about &#8220;limited&#8221; government. So if &#8220;conservatives&#8221; are the silent majority that conservatives seem to think that they are and their ideals actually embody what they claim that they do, then why would there ever be a disconnect between the conservative voters and the conservative politicians?</p>
<p>The sad answer is that there isn&#8217;t a disconnect; the conservative politicians DO represent their constituencies. It&#8217;s that their constituencies are ethically inconsistent. How many &#8220;conservative&#8221; farmers want our borders secured, yet hire illegals to work on their farms? How many businesses screech about &#8220;unjust&#8221; regulations from Washington, yet lobby for price supports, subsidies and tax breaks? How many people complain about the quality of public education, yet routinely vote to increase funding to the educational bureaucracy? How many &#8220;conservatives&#8221; &#8212; including the Great Communicator himself &#8212; shout against the evils of socialism as being a cancer upon the body politic, yet agree that there MUST be &#8220;some&#8221; sort of government funded &#8220;safety net&#8221; for the poor, the aged, the children, the &#8220;victims&#8221; of inequality? How many Republicans will vote to ELIMINATE the food stamp program, breakfast and lunch programs for school children, student loan programs to minorities and women, funding for small-business start ups, or the Dept. of Education at the federal, state or local level?</p>
<p>A lot? No, relatively few actually or they would certainly have recognized the threat to their individual liberties and would have already acted to repeal such ethical and political travesties when they were in control of the government. By now, you could have cited the historical examples of them doing so &#8212; but you can&#8217;t because they haven&#8217;t. They don&#8217;t see the ethical principles of socialism (the cause) as the problem, yet they can&#8217;t help but help but rail about socialism&#8217;s results (i.e., the effect.) </p>
<p>Regrettably, though, you are left with the only logical, obvious and (for the conservatives, uncomfortable) conclusion: the Republicans cannot repudiate socialism because they believe in the same guiding ethical principles as the socialists. The &#8220;conservatives&#8221; will not &#8212; on a fundamental, moral level &#8212; challenge the moral foundation of the socialists that justifies the socialists&#8217; goals. This is the flaw, the MORAL flaw, of the &#8220;conservatives&#8221;. THIS is why they lost and will continue to lose elections. Implicitly or explicitly, conservatives believe <i>on some level</i> in the tenets of altruism, i.e., that we <b><i>are</i></b> our brother&#8217;s keeper. But if the Republicans believe and operate on this principle, then they&#8217;re ethically no different than the socialists.  </p>
<p>If these two political parties share a common belief in a First Principle &#8212; and they DO &#8212; then then <i>all</i> of Rand&#8217;s observations listed above are true &#8212; and the irrational, evil, and yet, consistent party wins. And always will. You <b><i>cannot</i></b> build a nation of free and independent citizens upon a foundation of altruist ideals. It <b><i>cannot</i></b> work and I offer the state of modern conservatism as proof. Obama&#8217;s unprecedented rape of the economy, imperial legislation and arrogant anti-American bigotry merely overshadows the ridiculous fiscal irresponsibility, regulatory lunacy, privacy-invasion-in-the-name-of-security and the &#8220;compassionate&#8221; conservatism of Bush.  </p>
<p>If you embrace the notion that you are your brother&#8217;s keeper &#8212; that, as a people, Americans are ethically responsible for providing material support for people we don&#8217;t even know or value, be it in your neighborhood, the next state over or on the next continent &#8212; then two factors come into play and both are deadly.</p>
<p>A. There is a certain &#8220;logic&#8221; to the socialism: if a little socialism is good, then more is better. If the government creation of Social Security as a retirement system for the aged is a social value, then wouldn&#8217;t government subsidization of their health care be an even better value? If marginal regulation of business for the &#8220;safety&#8221; of the consumer is good, then massive regulation makes them safer, right? If minimum regulation of pollution is a value to all, wouldn&#8217;t forcing everyone to build a &#8220;clean&#8221; energy infrastructure be better?</p>
<p>Needless to say, when one (in this case, the conservatives) accept the tenets of socialism, it would be contradictory to argue for &#8220;limited&#8221; government, now wouldn&#8217;t it? Also, there will never be any need for a <i>moral</i> justification by your government betters when they call upon you to sacrifice your most cherished values for the &#8220;good&#8221; of others.</p>
<p>B. The laws of bureaucracy apply with a vengance, e.g., the bureaucracy will always act to protect itself. Furthermore, if morally the government is the answer to all of our social problems, then there will be no reason for the bureaucracy to think that it&#8217;s ever going away &#8212; which yields to another law (a variation on Pournelle&#8217;s Iron Law of Bureaucracy): the bureaucracy will <i>always</i> act to expand its scope and its power as justification for its continued existence. Do you really want an IPAB, let alone, have it rule your life <i>forever</i>?</p>
<p>Altruism is <i>not</i> moral &#8212; it is a morality of <i>cannibalism</i>, based upon the sacrifice of the lives and effort of others &#8212; thus it is <i>not</i> practical. If the State can sacrifice the life or the property of one, then in principle it can sacrifice the lives of all and it is simply a matter of time before <i><b>you</b></i> are the sacrifice. Socialism eventually metastasizes into either communism or fascism but both will consume its citizens. It is the unavoidable end result of a regime built upon moral cannibalism.</p>
<p>Until &#8220;conservatives&#8221; grasp that the moral principle that they&#8217;re &#8220;conserving&#8221; is altruism, nothing with will change for the better. To quote Rand again, &#8220;There can be no compromise on [First] [P]rinciples. There can be no compromise on moral issues. There can be no compromise on matters of knowledge, of truth, of rational conviction.&#8221; Additionally, &#8220;Contrary to the fanatical belief of its advocates, compromise [on basic principles] does not satisfy, but dissatisfies everybody; it does not lead to general fulfillment, but to general frustration; those who try to be all things to all men, end up by not being anything to anyone. And more: the partial victory of an unjust claim, encourages the claimant to try further; the partial defeat of a just claim, discourages and paralyzes the victim.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sound familiar?</p>
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But, Patricia, ads cost money, money that would be better spent on retreats, and cruise-seminars for the Establishment Intelligentsia (Nomenklatura).

Comment by askeptic — 11/12/2012 @ 11:20 am
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<p>But, Patricia, ads cost money, money that would be better spent on retreats, and cruise-seminars for the Establishment Intelligentsia (Nomenklatura).</p>
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<p>Sad but true.</p>
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		<description>PS: the most sensible way to buy land for a large capital project such as a road or pipeline, is to make it a package deal; everybody&#039;s payout depends on the entire parcel being sold.  That way the holdout is holding out on everyone, and will come under pressure from his neighbours to see sense.  Or if he&#039;s demanding crazy money, route around him, and around as many of his neighbours as you have to, and they don&#039;t get their bonanza either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS: the most sensible way to buy land for a large capital project such as a road or pipeline, is to make it a package deal; everybody&#8217;s payout depends on the entire parcel being sold.  That way the holdout is holding out on everyone, and will come under pressure from his neighbours to see sense.  Or if he&#8217;s demanding crazy money, route around him, and around as many of his neighbours as you have to, and they don&#8217;t get their bonanza either.</p>
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		<description>Eminent domain is wrong in principle even for public use &#8212; if it&#039;s that damned important to buy just this plot of land and no other, then we should be willing to pay for it.  There&#039;s no such thing as land that isn&#039;t for sale at any price.  Eminent domain is just a way of lowering the price.   But wrong or right, there&#039;s no question that for public use it&#039;s constitutional.  And if it&#039;s kept to genuine public use then the harm is minimised, because there&#039;s only so much land the public can possibly use.  The real problem with opening it up to private uses is that there&#039;s no limit to how much land could be swept up in it.  And of course the potential for corruption is so great that it&#039;s inevitable.

The only fair alternative to abolishing eminent domain, at least for all but genuine public uses, is to make it automatically available to everybody, without any need for political connections.  Allow anyone to buy any property for 10% above its declared value; if your house gets bought, no problem, just use the money to buy someone else&#039;s house.  The 10% premium should help with the moving costs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eminent domain is wrong in principle even for public use &mdash; if it&#8217;s that damned important to buy just this plot of land and no other, then we should be willing to pay for it.  There&#8217;s no such thing as land that isn&#8217;t for sale at any price.  Eminent domain is just a way of lowering the price.   But wrong or right, there&#8217;s no question that for public use it&#8217;s constitutional.  And if it&#8217;s kept to genuine public use then the harm is minimised, because there&#8217;s only so much land the public can possibly use.  The real problem with opening it up to private uses is that there&#8217;s no limit to how much land could be swept up in it.  And of course the potential for corruption is so great that it&#8217;s inevitable.</p>
<p>The only fair alternative to abolishing eminent domain, at least for all but genuine public uses, is to make it automatically available to everybody, without any need for political connections.  Allow anyone to buy any property for 10% above its declared value; if your house gets bought, no problem, just use the money to buy someone else&#8217;s house.  The 10% premium should help with the moving costs.</p>
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		<description>Patterico:

You are correct about first principles.  Liberty &amp; Truth require constant vigilance.

Trouble is we have largely abandoned our first principles - and our Constitution. 

This country was founded with the first, first principle - being Liberty.  Liberty has been overcome with falsely applied secondary principles of equality, and fairness.

The Constitution start out, We The People – cross that out and write in the present We The Government.

The three foundational principles of the Constitution are:  1)  a limited federal government; 2) a written Constitution and Rule of Law; and 3) a representative Republic.  Again, these principles have been largely abandoned.

1)	The federal government is anything but limited, and does everything but its core functions; it has become cancerous behemoth, ever metastasing and ever diminishing out Liberty.  See Who Will Tell The People:  The Betrayal of American Democracy (1992) by William Greider. http://www.amazon.com/Who-Will-Tell-The-People/dp/0671867407
2)	The Constitution and the Rule of Law, are routinely trumped by politics and corruption, and the federal government has ever increasing immunity and secrets; and,
3)	We have abandoned being representative Republic, when we capped the House of Representative at 435 in 1911 when we had a national population of ~ 125,000,000; we now have over 315,000,000 people and still 435 representative.  The Legislature was placed first in the Constitution, as it was the most direct connection to the People, as they were elected by the People, especially - The House – as it was supposed to be the pulse and life blood of the nation’s government.  Yet representation has been ever diminishing since 1911.  http://www.thirty-thousand.org/  Further, the judiciary which was placed third and last, was supposed to be the weakest, could will nothing, and its only power was through the wisdom and reason of it decisions, now has over twice the amount of judges as we have representatives.    http://www.uscourts.gov/JudgesAndJudgeships/FederalJudgeships.aspx    The judiciary has leap frogged over the House and is now first.  Can you say judicial supremacy?  California is even worse, and as the saying goes, As goes California, so goes the Nation.  And then tack on the dearth of impeachments and that almost 100% of misconduct complaints against federal judges, year-in-year-out are dismissed without any discipline being imposed.  See Without Merit:  The Empty Promise of Judicial Discipline (1997) http://www.judgewatch.org/articles/without-merit-1997.pdf and The Center for Judicial Accountability’s March 6, 2008 Critique of the  Breyer Committee Report on the Implementation of the Judicial Conduct and Disability Act of 1980  http://www.judgewatch.org/web-pages/judicial-discipline/federal/critique-breyer-report.htm arguing the Breyer report is a fraud.  Current  Poster Child for judicial misconduct after Chief Justice Roberts re ObamaCare decision:  USDC-Central District, California, Manuel Real.  And finally, add in the unconstitutional despicable and dastardly doctrine of Absolute Judicial Immunity – that covers corrupt and malicious acts.

Liberty &amp; Truth require constant vigilance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patterico:</p>
<p>You are correct about first principles.  Liberty &amp; Truth require constant vigilance.</p>
<p>Trouble is we have largely abandoned our first principles &#8211; and our Constitution. </p>
<p>This country was founded with the first, first principle &#8211; being Liberty.  Liberty has been overcome with falsely applied secondary principles of equality, and fairness.</p>
<p>The Constitution start out, We The People – cross that out and write in the present We The Government.</p>
<p>The three foundational principles of the Constitution are:  1)  a limited federal government; 2) a written Constitution and Rule of Law; and 3) a representative Republic.  Again, these principles have been largely abandoned.</p>
<p>1)	The federal government is anything but limited, and does everything but its core functions; it has become cancerous behemoth, ever metastasing and ever diminishing out Liberty.  See Who Will Tell The People:  The Betrayal of American Democracy (1992) by William Greider. <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Who-Will-Tell-The-People/dp/0671867407" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Who-Will-Tell-The-People/dp/0671867407</a><br />
2)	The Constitution and the Rule of Law, are routinely trumped by politics and corruption, and the federal government has ever increasing immunity and secrets; and,<br />
3)	We have abandoned being representative Republic, when we capped the House of Representative at 435 in 1911 when we had a national population of ~ 125,000,000; we now have over 315,000,000 people and still 435 representative.  The Legislature was placed first in the Constitution, as it was the most direct connection to the People, as they were elected by the People, especially &#8211; The House – as it was supposed to be the pulse and life blood of the nation’s government.  Yet representation has been ever diminishing since 1911.  <a href="http://www.thirty-thousand.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.thirty-thousand.org/</a>  Further, the judiciary which was placed third and last, was supposed to be the weakest, could will nothing, and its only power was through the wisdom and reason of it decisions, now has over twice the amount of judges as we have representatives.    <a href="http://www.uscourts.gov/JudgesAndJudgeships/FederalJudgeships.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.uscourts.gov/JudgesAndJudgeships/FederalJudgeships.aspx</a>    The judiciary has leap frogged over the House and is now first.  Can you say judicial supremacy?  California is even worse, and as the saying goes, As goes California, so goes the Nation.  And then tack on the dearth of impeachments and that almost 100% of misconduct complaints against federal judges, year-in-year-out are dismissed without any discipline being imposed.  See Without Merit:  The Empty Promise of Judicial Discipline (1997) <a href="http://www.judgewatch.org/articles/without-merit-1997.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.judgewatch.org/articles/without-merit-1997.pdf</a> and The Center for Judicial Accountability’s March 6, 2008 Critique of the  Breyer Committee Report on the Implementation of the Judicial Conduct and Disability Act of 1980  <a href="http://www.judgewatch.org/web-pages/judicial-discipline/federal/critique-breyer-report.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.judgewatch.org/web-pages/judicial-discipline/federal/critique-breyer-report.htm</a> arguing the Breyer report is a fraud.  Current  Poster Child for judicial misconduct after Chief Justice Roberts re ObamaCare decision:  USDC-Central District, California, Manuel Real.  And finally, add in the unconstitutional despicable and dastardly doctrine of Absolute Judicial Immunity – that covers corrupt and malicious acts.</p>
<p>Liberty &amp; Truth require constant vigilance.</p>
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