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Election Odds and Ends

Filed under: General — JD @ 2:00 pm

[guest post by JD]

Seems like there were some pretty questionable activities in Philly this morning. Outside of that, I am surprised at how little of the wailing and gnashing of teeth and rending of garments we have seen over SUPPRESSION because someone had to wait in line, or show an ID.

Turnout seemed up to me in comparison to 2010 and 2008, at my polling place. How about yours?

Anything left to possibly be a game-changer at this point?

Are you still confident of your prior predictions?

Will this election be decided by lawyers?

Discuss. Racists.

– JD


  1. This is going to be a long day.

    Comment by JD (318f81) — 11/6/2012 @ 2:00 pm

  2. Sticking with my prediction (303 EVs for Romney, a 50-50 Senate and House stands about pat). Confident? Hell no, except for the House.

    Comment by Mitch (341ca0) — 11/6/2012 @ 2:01 pm

  3. Democrats vote after the work day is over. That’s when we’ll see long lines, at the end of the polling day, and that’s when we’ll see the “wailing and gnashing of teeth and rending of garments we have seen over SUPPRESSION because someone had to wait in line, or show an ID.”

    Comment by Pious Agnostic (2c3220) — 11/6/2012 @ 2:06 pm

  4. 300+ for Mitt
    The alternative is unthinkable.

    Comment by mg (31009b) — 11/6/2012 @ 2:08 pm

  5. Pious – Did you see Tebow’s tweet from yesterday?

    Comment by JD (318f81) — 11/6/2012 @ 2:08 pm

  6. JD – No I didn’t. Got a quote for me, or a paraphrase?

    Comment by Pious Agnostic (2c3220) — 11/6/2012 @ 2:09 pm

  7. I had to wait for 45 minutes mid-day.

    Comment by aphrael (f1d203) — 11/6/2012 @ 2:09 pm

  8. I know people that waited for over 3 hours.

    Comment by JD (318f81) — 11/6/2012 @ 2:11 pm

  9. I’m predicting Obama will take an early lead tomorrow… Until all the Republicans get off work. #RomneyRyan2012

    — Tim Tebow (@TheTimmyTebow) November 5, 2012

    Turns out it was not the real Tim Tebow, but funny.

    Comment by JD (318f81) — 11/6/2012 @ 2:12 pm

  10. Pious and JD, that tweet that was allegedly from Tebow actually came from a fake Tim Tebow account. It’s already an entry in Snopes.

    Comment by JVW (f5695c) — 11/6/2012 @ 2:15 pm

  11. That’s funny. I hope it’s true.

    Comment by Pious Agnostic (2c3220) — 11/6/2012 @ 2:15 pm

  12. Ah yes, and JD pointed out the fake as I was composing my comment.

    Comment by JVW (f5695c) — 11/6/2012 @ 2:16 pm

  13. I was thinking about something. There is almost no downside for telling people I voted for Obama.

    Not that I did. I voted for Romney.

    But if I tell people that, I might be attacked by some Obamathug. Or I might be presumed to be a racist. Or I might be discriminated against in my workplace.

    At the very least, I will be lumped in with those evil, greedy, Republicans.

    If I tell people I voted for Obama, then I’m presumed to be a good, kind, unprejudiced soul.

    Republicans won’t discriminate against me if I say I voted for Obama. Republicans won’t attack me. They might think I’m dim, but they do anyway so who cares.

    If Obama wins, well, I might benefit in some way for having said I supported him. Maybe when the camps start up, someone will remember I said that I voted for Obama and will give me a pass.

    If Romney wins, I’ll benefit because, well, Romney won and that’ll be good for the country.

    The only downside is the damage I’d be doing for my everlasting soul by telling such an awful fib.

    Comment by Pious Agnostic (2c3220) — 11/6/2012 @ 2:21 pm

  14. I think there’s lots of cheating going on, especially in PA. Ohio may go GOP because they got in so much fraud trouble last time and are being good.

    Other than that, I’m anxious. I don’t really care about the GOP or Mitt Romney, although he could be a great president. I care about the country, damn it!!

    And now I will go back to cleaning my closets–something to do to keep busy until the returns come in.

    Comment by Patricia (e1d89d) — 11/6/2012 @ 2:28 pm

  15. The was no wait at my polling place, and the judges said they only had a short one at opening time. We did have a lot of early voting in Chicago, though.

    I was actually assessed a poll tax* though. Not cool.

    *and by poll tax I mean I didn’t pay the meter and got a ticket. I was only in there for 5 minutes, geez. Sixty bucks to cast a protest vote for Gary Johnson and couple of Republican Water Reclamation people I’ve never heard of.

    Comment by carlitos (49ef9f) — 11/6/2012 @ 2:30 pm

  16. Though I want Obama to lose, and will vote Romney in about 2 hours….. I have thought, and continue to think Obama wins. Popular will be close, Romney may even win it. But electoral will be definitive.

    If I have to give a prediction it is popular by 3% and about 320 electoral to Obama.

    But, Romney COULD win it… that is in the realm of possibility in my opinion.

    We’ll know soon enough…

    Comment by Truthie (8df792) — 11/6/2012 @ 2:33 pm

  17. Truthie, so you are giving Obama 3 percentage points more than polls – which already overstate Democrat turnout – which show the popular vote tied.


    Comment by SPQR (768505) — 11/6/2012 @ 2:37 pm

  18. I think so. around that. But we will see. Its just hard to beat an incumbent and other factors. But so much this time is unknown.

    Comment by Truthie (8df792) — 11/6/2012 @ 2:41 pm

  19. There were long linbes at the polls that I have never seen in 30 years of voting in Broooklyn.

    It seems like the Board of Elections decided that this was the time, this was the hour, to consolidate election districts.

    They changed the voting system I think two years ago, but this part – signing in – didn’t change.

    There were no lines at the scanner. No lines or problems at the privacy booths. Just signing in.

    Nobody was using the Ballot Marking Device, until I did. They didn’t know how to help me but I put the ballot in on my own. They said I all know which is true.

    Co-ordinator missed me. Doesn’t she realize it’s because she made a complaint back in March?

    Actually I could have gotten in but I didn’t know the system well enough. SOMEONE ACTUALLY TOLD ME TO JOIN A POLITICAL CLUB at the Board of elections last Thursday.

    I think maybe even if I’d come earlier in the day I could have gotten a job because some normal requirements ahd been waived.

    I stood in line about 20 minutes 3:40 to 4:00 and took ten more minutes to vote.

    I was number 243 (there were 252 ballots requested, somne spoiled) In 2008, at about this time I was number 120. This is because they consiolidated election districts. There were only 4 tables and there should have been 8 or 10.

    the BMD is not good for write-ins, but otherwise is very good although you see the choices in a different way.

    Comment by Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 11/6/2012 @ 2:41 pm

  20. IIRC in CA there was a case that went to the appellate level over a traffic ticket given to someone on his way to vote.
    The Court determined that it was an unconstitutional “intimidation” of a voter, and threw it out.
    The scuttlebutt is that a “CS” ticket on your way to vote will/can be thrown out if challenged, but one after voting you’re stuck with.

    Comment by AD-Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! (b8ab92) — 11/6/2012 @ 2:43 pm

  21. 15 – I’ll skip your fox hole. But I still have your back.

    Comment by mg (31009b) — 11/6/2012 @ 2:58 pm

  22. I’m sorry that happened to you Mr. carlitos

    Comment by happyfeet (972b0b) — 11/6/2012 @ 3:05 pm

  23. Don’t mean to be too harsh but I’m glad you got the ticket!! Karma dude, shouldn’t of wasted your vote on an idiot!!

    A vote for the half-wit Johnson is a vote for Barry!!

    I may live in California but I will be proud to vote for Romney tonight when I get home. I am voting for our Republic, not trying to make some kind of weak assed political statement.

    Voting is a responsibility not to be taken lightly!!

    Comment by SacTownMan (2a89ae) — 11/6/2012 @ 3:24 pm

  24. not voting for the mitt romney is very honorable

    as you’re sure to come to know

    Comment by happyfeet (972b0b) — 11/6/2012 @ 3:32 pm

  25. 23 Shorter: If you dont vote like I think you should, you suck!

    Comment by Truthie (8df792) — 11/6/2012 @ 3:35 pm

  26. I was actually assessed a poll tax* though. Not cool.

    *and by poll tax I mean I didn’t pay the meter and got a ticket.

    A poll tax is a tax that is levied at a flat amount per head. There is nothing wrong or illegal about poll taxes, but I don’t think any exist at the moment, and a parking ticket is certainly not one. I have noticed that an awful lot of people seem to think it has something to do with voting, I guess from the word “poll”. It doesn’t. The “poll” is as in “head”.

    Comment by Milhouse (15b6fd) — 11/6/2012 @ 4:11 pm

  27. 24 – sure thing comrade

    Comment by mg (31009b) — 11/6/2012 @ 4:13 pm

  28. I’m so tired of being called a racist. And a woman-hater. I’m neither.

    Comment by Birdbath (716828) — 11/6/2012 @ 4:15 pm

  29. “Republicans won’t discriminate against me if I say I voted for Obama. Republicans won’t attack me. They might think I’m dim, but they do anyway so who cares.”

    - Pious Agnostic

    We have a whole thread dedicated to shredding Chris Christie for saying something nice about Obama. Can you imagine the attacks if it came out that he’d voted for Obama? Your faith in Republican benevolence might be slightly misguided.

    Comment by Leviticus (17b7a5) — 11/6/2012 @ 4:20 pm

  30. @Leviticus Your faith in Republican benevolence might be slightly misguided.

    Comment by The Emperor (5dd769) — 11/6/2012 @ 4:24 pm

  31. I hate Obama so much but if he left his gate open and his dog got out I’d stop and catch the wayward pup and make sure he got home safe

    Obama would never do that for me

    Comment by happyfeet (95509a) — 11/6/2012 @ 4:26 pm

  32. This one ^^^ is definitely an election “odd”.

    Comment by Icy (51e2f1) — 11/6/2012 @ 4:26 pm

  33. Meant for Lovey, of course.

    Comment by Icy (51e2f1) — 11/6/2012 @ 4:27 pm

  34. Mr. feets, Obama would make sure that pup made it safely into his belly.

    Comment by Icy (51e2f1) — 11/6/2012 @ 4:28 pm

  35. right? He’s so that way

    Comment by happyfeet (95509a) — 11/6/2012 @ 4:30 pm

  36. “Mr. feets, Obama would make sure that pup made it safely into his belly”

    - Icy

    hahahaha zing

    Comment by Leviticus (17b7a5) — 11/6/2012 @ 4:34 pm

  37. NBC has the prettiest talking heads, and I’m talking about the boys.

    YouTube has complete episodes of the first season of the Beverly Hillbillies, BTW.

    Comment by nk (875f57) — 11/6/2012 @ 4:35 pm

  38. Your faith in Republican benevolence might be slightly misguided.

    The analogy is ridiculous.

    If you endorse Romney and then vote for Obama I can only imagine the attacks that should result.

    A slight difference from the odd Joe that just says he voted for Obama, but only slight right?

    Try again.

    Comment by beer 'n pretzels (6ef50f) — 11/6/2012 @ 4:40 pm

  39. Leviticus, point taken. But I’m not a big-time Republican who stumped for the Republican nominee and then on the eve of the election freaked everybody out by saying something nice at a time when his state was in need and everybody just wanted to get along and clean the crap out of the yard.

    I’m just a guy. Who voted for Romney.

    And might lie about it if it gets me somewhere.

    Comment by Pious Agnostic (2c3220) — 11/6/2012 @ 4:40 pm

  40. “Are you still confident of your prior predictions?”

    Yeah. I predicted that I would vote a straight Republican ticket (I did). And, I predicted that I would vote against any proposition that put more money into the pockets of the state government (which I also did, despite a last minute appeal from the missus that I vote yes on California Proposition 30).

    My predictions pretty much always come true.

    Comment by Dave Surls (46b08c) — 11/6/2012 @ 4:43 pm

  41. Watching MSNBC is surreal

    Comment by JD (ac62a1) — 11/6/2012 @ 4:45 pm

  42. Bernie and his militia hold ground in Vermont!!

    Comment by mg (31009b) — 11/6/2012 @ 4:51 pm

  43. Howard Dean can always be depended on to make an ass of himself every election cycle… and most days in between.

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (7adb4c) — 11/6/2012 @ 4:52 pm

  44. Obama poised to carry Florida and Ohio. Is this game over for Romney?

    Comment by The Emperor (5dd769) — 11/6/2012 @ 4:52 pm

  45. Chris Christie would’ve been wise to ignore anonymous rumors and innuendo. I don’t think he has it in him though…

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (7adb4c) — 11/6/2012 @ 4:54 pm

  46. I want some of what Whimperor is smokin’!

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (7adb4c) — 11/6/2012 @ 4:55 pm

  47. @Col. Reality Check

    Comment by The Emperor (5dd769) — 11/6/2012 @ 4:57 pm

  48. Chimperor is on crack.

    Comment by JD (ac62a1) — 11/6/2012 @ 4:59 pm

  49. I’m going to try to move everyone to one thread, which I have just opened, here.

    Comment by Patterico (8b3905) — 11/6/2012 @ 5:02 pm

  50. ______________________________________________

    a last minute appeal from the missus that I vote yes on California Proposition 30).

    I feel that if a person is going to be pro-liberal, pro-taxes, pro-Democrat-Party, I hope he or she at least is a public-sector employee. Therefore, such a voter at least is riding on the gravy train and getting something out of the deal (Faustian or otherwise). For anyone else? Marking up a ballot to reflect liberal sentiment is dumb. Users of such ballots are the epitome of suckers and saps.

    Comment by Mark (66bba6) — 11/6/2012 @ 5:04 pm

  51. Chimperor is cracked!

    Comment by peedoffamerican (ee1de0) — 11/6/2012 @ 5:04 pm

  52. I might be embarrassed a Senator or two, but otherwise confident with my predictions.

    Comment by gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 11/6/2012 @ 5:05 pm

  53. @jd, you would need some crack this night to help with the shock of your candidate’s massive loss tonight.

    Comment by The Emperor (5dd769) — 11/6/2012 @ 5:06 pm

  54. You are a feces flinging clown, Chimperor/lovie. I predicted Obama would win.

    Comment by JD (ac62a1) — 11/6/2012 @ 5:08 pm

  55. 43.Howard Dean can always be depended on to make an ass of himself every election cycle… and most days every day in between.
    Comment by Colonel Haiku — 11/6/2012 @ 4:52 pm

    – Fixed.

    Comment by Icy (51e2f1) — 11/6/2012 @ 5:14 pm

  56. @jd, I stand corrected. But feces flinging? Oh come on.. Lol!

    Comment by The Emperor (5dd769) — 11/6/2012 @ 5:26 pm

  57. It was pretty dead at our Hyde Park polling spot. First problem was the flyer posted to the front door saying that our polling station had closed and we had to travel extra blocks. Second was Obama did his phone bank photo op on our block and we had trouble just getting out of the neighborhood to go to work. Third was we weren’t far ahead enough of the motorcade and got stuck on a closed Lake Shore Drive.

    At the polling station, there was no line, but we had a judge who appeared to be challenging anyone with white skin. In 15 minutes, he threw out a reporter (for not having credentials), challenged my husband, until one of the judges who knows us personally vouched, and tried to prevent a young college girl who has just left the army. Now, in Hyde Park, correlation with white skin and voting “R” is not strong. I think that we only have six republicans in our ward. And to top it off, he was demanding ID!

    Comment by Obama's Neighbor (d5bc71) — 11/6/2012 @ 5:40 pm

  58. Hi Obama’s Neighbor,

    My wife had a similar … cold feeling in our ward, which is also predominately black. It’s not a good feeling. She showed up at the wrong place, as they redistricted since March, and our local judge was not helpful and very mean to her. Total coincidence, but the republican judge was friendly and helpful.

    Comment by carlitos (49ef9f) — 11/6/2012 @ 7:46 pm

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