Patterico's Pontifications

11/1/2012

Daily Caller: Democrat Senator (Under)Paid for Sex

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:41 am

The Daily Caller:

Two women from the Dominican Republic told The Daily Caller that Democratic New Jersey Sen. Bob Menendez paid them for sex earlier this year.

In interviews, the two women said they met Menendez around Easter at Casa de Campo, an expensive 7,000 acre resort in the Dominican Republic. They claimed Menendez agreed to pay them $500 for sex acts, but in the end they each received only $100.

Has this man learned nothing from the Secret Service? Don’t short-change the foreign prostitute.

His spokesholes are calling the women liars:

Asked about the allegations, Menendez spokeswoman Tricia Enright refused to answer any questions on the subject. “We’re not going to respond to a completely false accusation,” she wrote by email.

OK then.

THE REAL OUTRAGE: I’m less offended by the payment for sex than I am by his breaking his word. Why, if he can’t keep a promise made to a hot prostitute from the Dominican Republic (there are no pictures, but we all have our mental images from the Secret Service incident), how, I ask you, can he be expected to keep his promises to the voters, with whom he doesn’t even want to have sexual relations (with the admitted exception of a handful of housewives in Trenton)?

Again: I ask you.

These Senators. They woo you with compliments (you’re “beautiful”; I need your vote), get you to compromise yourself, and then you get only 20% of what you were promised.

And then he short-changes you to boot! (Rim shot.)

154 Responses to “Daily Caller: Democrat Senator (Under)Paid for Sex”

  1. Ding.

    Patterico (8b3905)

  2. The “intermediary” (pimp) got $500.00 and gave the girl $100.00. For crying out loud, Patterico, you know these people.

    In any case, I do not care what his party is. Dominican whores’ words have no place in American Senatorial elections.

    nk (875f57)

  3. I live in NJ. The guy is a scumbag. If this can get rid of him so be it.

    NJRob (7b84d7)

  4. FWIW, at least to me, this stinks all the way around.

    JD (318f81)

  5. In any case, whores need to live too, and what else are they good for? I’m not a man who swims in sewers, but I do not blame men who provide whores a living. (Their pimps are a different matter.)

    nk (875f57)

  6. JD,

    I tend to agree. Menendez was appointed to fill an empty seat? No way he was not cavity searched before his appointment. If he had whore tendencies, it would have come out, and he would have been off the short list. (Pun intended ;) )

    nk (875f57)

  7. “Again: I ask you” well, then, I’ll tell you: he will beg for forgiveness, ask for redemption, and then come back as an even harder preogressive/socialist. Look at how clinton is revered. Look at how Spitzer is making his way back into political circles. Come on: he’s a Democrat and there are wealthy people to fleece, and a middle class to destroy. He’s got work to do.

    john b (f6ebf1)

  8. Perhaps the ladies decided they could get more money by either selling their story or blackmailing the Senator?

    The Senator is not only immoral, but also stupid to give strangers that much power over him. I hope he’s never been privy to any State secrets.

    Dustin (73fead)

  9. NK,

    Many women in prostitution are trapped there.

    The reason that men such as the Secret Service agents and Senator Jerk from NJ think they can get away with cheating the prostitutes out of money, is because people propagate the notion that prostitutes aren’t good for anything else.

    Elephant Stone (65d289)

  10. There is a Greek saying, Dustin: A petticoat can pull a ship. “Petticoat” is a euphemism for a other word that starts with “p”.

    In any case, whether he f***** them or not, Dominican Republic whores and pimps have no business in American elections.

    nk (875f57)

  11. A good whore gets the money in advance, Elephant
    Stone.

    nk (875f57)

  12. what’s most disconcerting is knowing that chris christie will have his tongue down this man’s throat before lunch and cnn already has a camera crew in place

    happyfeet (e5eb5a)

  13. Our honored host wrote:

    how, I ask you, can he be expected to keep his promises to the voters, with whom he doesn’t even want to have sexual relations

    Uhh, he’s a Senator and a Democrat, which means that yes, he does want to f(ornicate) us all.

    The astute Dana (3e4784)

  14. No woman is trapped into prostitution.

    My mother herded sheep at age nine. She was a Teamster, loading five tons a day, from age 40 to age 66.

    Nobody loves women more than I do. But they are such weak, silly things, sometimes.

    nk (875f57)

  15. ______________________________________________

    chris christie will have his tongue down this man’s throat

    I saw a recent photo of him and he’s oddly overweight or strangely obese. He must have his tongue down a lot of anything that packs on the calories.

    I (and I imagine growing percentages of the public) have become so desensitized through the years (Hi, Monica and Bill!), that these type of stories no longer have the same impact they once did.

    That should be kept in mind when theorizing the way that human nature can be altered so that various forms of corruption no longer seem quite so bad or bothersome. I now have a greater grasp of the meaning behind the ancient story of Sodom and the character of Lot.

    Deviancy defined down, way down.

    Mark (66bba6)

  16. I simply refuse to believe what a whore says. YMMV

    nk (875f57)

  17. Senator Bob Menendez: Fiscally conservative with his own money. Fiscally liberal with the taxpayers’ money.

    I’m JVW and I approve this message.

    JVW (f5695c)

  18. nk: ” I tend to agree. Menendez was appointed to fill an empty seat?”

    Yeah, by Corzine. Who is so detail-oriented he lost $2 billion of his investors’ assets.

    MayBee (4901b0)

  19. I was playing word games, May Bee. Kinda dirty. No apologize, if girls wanna sit in they’ll have to put on with boy talk.

    nk (875f57)

  20. I saw a recent photo of him and he’s oddly overweight or strangely obese. He must have his tongue down a lot of anything that packs on the calories.

    Are you saying he’s part of our culture’s desenstization of vice? That’s not a very nice thing to say. I see it the other way around. Electing leadership that doesn’t look like Ken or Barbie opens up the possibility of evaluating who is a good leader.

    For a NE Republican, Christie has many good leadership qualities. It would be unfortunate for his physical appearance to have any impact politically. Same for Mitch Daniels, who doesn’t look like a strong leader, but actually is one.

    I (and I imagine growing percentages of the public) have become so desensitized through the years (Hi, Monica and Bill!), that these type of stories no longer have the same impact they once did.

    I agree with you on that. I’m imagining if someone I actually knew behaved like this: prostitutes, infidelity, etc. It’s disgusting and extreme. And thanks largely to Bill Clinton’s scandal, this is something we almost expect out of our politicians. It’s sad.

    Dustin (73fead)

  21. No apologize, if girls wanna sit in they’ll have to put on with boy talk.

    Oh, I’m sorry. I thought you were trying to make a point along with your puns.

    MayBee (4901b0)

  22. Ha, typical pol! Promises, promises….

    Patricia (e1d89d)

  23. Yeah, by Corzine. Who is so detail-oriented he lost $2 billion of his investors’ assets.

    Lost or misappropriated? Or stole? And he is still bundling for Obama

    JD (318f81)

  24. you know what are funny is pelicans

    big dopey monkey birds

    happyfeet (ec58b0)

  25. They should have told him to pay them with taxpayer dollars. Then they would’ve been paid in full and gotten a healthy tip.
    The real issue here is that it is confirmed he’s been using a jet and resort of a private citizen and there’s certainly a quid pro quo going on for those benefits.

    NJRob (7b84d7)

  26. ____________________________________________

    Are you saying he’s part of our culture’s desenstization of vice?

    Actually, Dustin, I’m saying he looks like a heart attack waiting to happen. But if health check-ups indicate he’s quite fit (and his heart isn’t crying out: “help me, help me!”), then I’d revise my reaction to the way he looks. It goes without saying that I’d obviously favor him for political office (although he does have his share of squish—ie, the ideological kind) versus a liberal/Democrat.

    BTW, when people want another symbol of how even the supposed experts can get something blatantly wrong — for years and years — keep in mind all the decades of the public being warned about the perils of fat — fat! — in food. And, in turn, almost nothing (or far less) said about a diet laden with sugar. Moreover, unlike the issue of global warming, the human body isn’t quite as vast and complicated as the Earth’s climate is.

    Mark (66bba6)

  27. NJRob – who is the donor?

    JD (436368)

  28. I remember during the ’92 presidential campaign Ross Perot said that he considers it a firing offense if he finds out that one of his employees has been unfaithful to his wife. The press asked him why he was such a stickler about fidelity. He said that if the guy’s own wife can’t trust him, why should he. Seemed like sound logic to me.

    Scott (6105c1)

  29. I apologize to you now, May Bee, for dirty talking.

    My point was that I take neither this story nor whores’ words seriously,

    nk (875f57)

  30. 16.I simply refuse to believe what a whore says. YMMV

    Comment by nk — 11/1/2012 @ 8:39 am

    Precisely. That’s why I’m taking the word of the sex worker.

    Steve57 (320590)

  31. http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-06-15/news/29681667_1_taxes-on-rental-income-dominican-republic-villa-charlie-rangel

    A chief violation included his failure to pay 17 years’ worth of taxes on rental income from the Dominican Republic property.

    …Another $100,000 to $250,000 in profits was “in transit,” according to Rangel’s account. His spokeswoman could not immediately explain how funds from a December, 2010, sale were still “in transit” when Rangel filed the financial forms last month.

    I’m guessing because the New Jersey Democrat hadn’t was still in arrears to the New York Democrat for his last third world romp.

    Apparently these guys like the Dominican Republic so much they’re trying to make the US just like it. They’re more than half way there with the economy.

    Steve57 (320590)

  32. you know what is funny? peeing on Helen Kellers hands saying “Water”

    pdbuttons (631b6d)

  33. Menendez just gave the hookers the Obama Medicare discount, like the one Obama claimed ripping $716 billion from the program strengthened it because it did not affect the provision of services to recipients, only the payments to providers of services.

    Obamanomics in practice!

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  34. I’m starting to realize why this site has lost so many commenters.

    nk (875f57)

  35. Actually, Dustin, I’m saying he looks like a heart attack waiting to happen.

    I apologize for misunderstanding, and I agree that his health is a concern. New Jersey needs this guy.

    keep in mind all the decades of the public being warned about the perils of fat — fat! — in food. And, in turn, almost nothing (or far less) said about a diet laden with sugar.

    Yup. In my opinion, this is a consequence of government intrusion as well. To keep food prices stable (and thus less of a political issue) we want to rely on corn and corn syrup, which is heavily subsidized and in almost everything.

    America started getting fatter about when the government decided to go down that path.

    Dustin (73fead)

  36. Since Menendez demanded that off duty Secret Service personnel be fired for their conduct in Columbia earlier this year, what will he propose for himself?

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  37. In any case, whether he f***** them or not, Dominican Republic whores and pimps have no business in American elections.

    We let Democrats take part in our elections; can’t see why we should raise our standards for people just because they’re from the Dominican Republic.

    Rob Crawford (e6f27f)

  38. I’m starting to realize why this site has lost so many commenters.

    Looked in a mirror, did you?

    Rob Crawford (e6f27f)

  39. Lily Ledbetter bites Bob Menendez on the butt.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  40. Let’s see, who to believe, a woman who offers her body for a price and keeps her promises or a man who lies for a living? It’s a dilemma.

    Moneyrunner (53e425)

  41. I must not be getting the jokes that pdbuttons keeps telling.

    Pious Agnostic (7c3d5b)

  42. PA – No soap radio.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  43. Pdbuttons stories about parched flat-headed prison farm kids with webbed feet are epic.

    JD (436368)

  44. Helen Kellers first word was water

    pdbuttons (631b6d)

  45. 38.I’m starting to realize why this site has lost so many commenters.

    Looked in a mirror, did you?

    Comment by Rob Crawford — 11/1/2012 @ 10:01 am

    Yes.

    nk (875f57)

  46. Does he pay male prostitutes more? This could be a pay equality issue, too.

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  47. JD,

    Salomon Melgen who has also contributed almost 15k to Menendez campaigns previously.

    NJRob (7b84d7)

  48. “Dominican whores’ words have no place in American Senatorial elections.”

    They have more credibility than Harry Reid.

    SPQR (768505)

  49. I was so hoping it would be Hairy Reid.

    PatAZ (142472)

  50. chris christie will have his tongue down this man’s throat before lunch

    You know, happy (and others), I think this is way off base. Christie is first and foremost the no-nonsense Governor of New Jersey and right now the nonsense is partisan politics. He needs federal money, fast, to help his people put things back together and it’s just insane to expect him to bash Obama right at the moment.

    Matter of fact, Romney would embrace it and spin it as “an example of how Republicans work across the aisle when we need to get things done.”

    And then bash the MSM for trying to turn it into a partisan issue.

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  51. *should embrace it

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  52. Christie is first and foremost the no-nonsense Governor of New Jersey and right now the nonsense is partisan politics. He needs federal money, fast, to help his people put things back together and it’s just insane to expect him to bash Obama right at the moment.

    Matter of fact, Romney would embrace it and spin it as “an example of how Republicans work across the aisle when we need to get things done.”

    Agreed.

    The people of his state are counting on Christie, and he’s not letting them down.

    New Jersey helps pay for FEMA and other federal programs. While it is a good idea to revisit whether we should have those programs, so long as we have them, they are entitled to benefit from them.

    Dustin (73fead)

  53. Menendez was appointed by Corzine then won the seat in the 2006 election. I remember some of his ads since Philly TV covers S. Jersey. My recollection is he was quick to go along with the worst of the “Bush lied” stuff. My impression of him was negative enough to write him off for being worthy of respect until proven otherwise.
    His Wikipedia entry isn’t all that complimentary and is quick to use words like “corrupted”. We all know Wikipedia is not the best source for political info, but when it is negative about a Democrat it probably means something.

    It does seem that when the public learns about such things involving Dems they aren’t all that surprised, hence they don’t suffer that much politically. Maybe that says more about the people who voted them in in the first place.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  54. “Don’t worry, Senator, my brother Fredo operates this place, he was called before anyone. If this had happened someplace else, we couldn’t’ve helped you. . . .

    This girl has no family — nobody knows that she worked here. It’ll be as if she never existed. All that’s left is our friendship.”

    JVW (f5695c)

  55. _________________________________________

    I’m starting to realize why this site has lost so many commenters.

    Quite seriously — and not dealing with what you’re referring to — and not wanting to sound like a buttinsky towards the owner, but I can’t figure out why Pat, on one hand, wants to boost the number of visitors to his blog (and presumably its board posters too) — as he said to a new user last week on a video chat — then, on the other hand, doesn’t adjust his site’s forum to make it less of an outlier.

    America started getting fatter about when the government decided to go down that path.

    What drives me nuts is to see all the products that still tout “low fat” or “non-fat,” while far fewer items proclaim “low sugar” or “reduced sugar.” The “non-sugar” label doesn’t count because in almost all instances it’s on products that contain crappy fake sugar. BTW, they’ve done studies that found synthetic sugar apparently actually triggers obesity in humans as much as real sugar does.

    And some folks actually remain confident in the various experts who’ve been claiming for some time now that global warming is caused by the stuff we breathe out every few seconds?

    Maybe that says more about the people who voted them in in the first place.

    And that’s why it’s not being snarky or very partisan to say that corruption (ie, various forms of it—from cultural to economic) tends to be incubated by and flourish when liberalism, as embraced by political figures and voters, is the prevailing sentiment of the day.

    Mark (66bba6)

  56. 54. This girl has no family — nobody knows that she worked here. It’ll be as if she never existed. All that’s left is our friendship.”

    Comment by JVW — 11/1/2012 @ 10:43 am

    Whoever found these girls clearly has a great interest in keeping them alive.

    I would hazard a guess that Menendez’s problems just are getting started with sex-for-hire, as NJRob’s comments indicate. Clearly Gloria Allred had nothing to do with this November surprise since there seems to be something to this story.

    Steve57 (320590)

  57. I apologize to you now, May Bee, for dirty talking.

    I don’t know why you think you’ve offended me, nk, but you haven’t.

    MayBee (4901b0)

  58. Quite seriously — and not dealing with what you’re referring to — and not wanting to sound like a buttinsky towards the owner, but I can’t figure out why Pat, on one hand, wants to boost the number of visitors to his blog (and presumably its board posters too) — as he said to a new user last week on a video chat — then, on the other hand, doesn’t adjust his site’s forum to make it less of an outlier.

    Oh for the sake of f@ck

    JD (436368)

  59. Where is SarahW?

    MayBee (4901b0)

  60. ____________________________________________

    Comment by JD — 11/1/2012 @ 11:24 am

    I have to chuckle, JD, since your quoteline does make it look like my comment came from you. Again, things like that aren’t helped by the board’s interface.

    BTW, is it not correct to notice that this board doesn’t exactly attract a large number of users—new, old or returning? I do like the non-congested nature of it, and I don’t expect (or want) the huge volume of posters drawn to sites like hotair.com or huffingtonpost.com (phooey). But a bit more activity would reflect better on patterico.com. Plus, it (ie, Pat) deserves it.

    Mark (66bba6)

  61. I do not care what his party is. Dominican whores’ words have no place in American Senatorial elections.
    Comment by nk — 11/1/2012 @ 8:02 am

    – In the face of much competition from over the years, including several examples contained elsewhere within this very thread, this may be the dumbest thing you’ve ever written.

    Icy (7382ec)

  62. - Most of the other blogs that I used to comment on (not that there were many) have all “updated” to various formats where one logs in through Twitter or FB or Yahoo or youwho or whatever.
    I don’t post at any of them anymore, though a few I read and if I feel strongly enough about something I will shoot an email into the author.
    - As far as the appearance/optics go, I learned to read with the printed page, I like it fine. I know people can have perception difficulties and perhaps this format is difficult for some, but most of us don’t have that problem.
    - Sites that have branch points comments descending from one comment are annoying to me- on one hand I understand the concept and see that it is worthwhile, but often the same subject is discussed multiple places and it takes forever to hunt it all down if one wants-unless there is commonly a way to manipulate the comments as a data base that I don’t know how to do.
    - It would be interesting to know how often people try to read a whole thread and see what has already been said and how often people just comment on the original post and/or the last few comments posted.
    - the one thing I would like to see, which I don’t really expect because it would take some work by the editors/moderators, would be to mark comments felt to be especially helpful by their originality (worthwhile, that is) or ability to summarize a lengthy discussion so people can bypass whack-troll-when they want.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  63. So, a Democrat Senator shortchanges a couple of Dominican hookers and they retaliate by pulling his pants down in public to show everyone that he’s a cheap jerk.

    Well, I’d say they screwed him over pretty good.

    Now, since Menendez is divorced it’s only his daughter Alicia, a FOX NEWS contributor, who’ll have to sit quietly and keep a straight face while pretending she doesn’t see the other news girls glancing sideways with knowing smirks.

    ropelight (f77aba)

  64. Where is SarahW?
    Comment by MayBee — 11/1/2012 @ 11:31 am

    I’m not sure, but I think she posted on one of the storm threads that she was alive and well but her home and possessions not so well, had some significant damage. I don’t think her home was totally destroyed, but I’m not sure if it was liveable for the moment, either.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  65. buttons makes the internet better it’s a proven fact

    everyone knows that

    happyfeet (319716)

  66. oh that’s awful about sarah I hope she just got a mild case

    happyfeet (319716)

  67. Senator Bob’s real problem (other than offending Atlantic City hookers by off-shoring his buys), is that the resort where he stayed, and the plane he flew to the Dominican Republic in, is owned by a prominent campaign donor. There might be both Senate Ethics Cmte issues, plus FEC issues.

    Well Done, Bob!

    AD-Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! (b8ab92)

  68. AD – I’m virtually certain Menendez would have reimbursed his donor for the use of that plane because Democrats are so strong on ethics. After all, Pelosi and Reid drained that swamp after they took over in 2007.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  69. Poor Sarah.

    MayBee (4901b0)

  70. 61.I do not care what his party is. Dominican whores’ words have no place in American Senatorial elections.
    Comment by nk — 11/1/2012 @ 8:02 am

    – In the face of much competition from over the years, including several examples contained elsewhere within this very thread, this may be the dumbest thing you’ve ever written.

    Comment by Icy — 11/1/2012 @ 11:53 am

    Still ten times smarter than you.

    nk (875f57)

  71. I don’t know why people think there is anything wrong with the format of this board.

    Looks and works fine for me.

    And while I hope for Pat’s sake that he gets more viewers, I am not hopeful for thousand comment threads here. You can’t keep up with those. I don’t even know why people comment on a board with 10 new comments a minute. You can’t read a comment and respond to it, cuz by the time you post its 20 comments back. You are just talking to yourself.

    kinlaw (2fb87c)

  72. Yeah, I hope Mark doesn’t want this blog to have a Gawker-type threading system where you have to open each thread individually and then backtrack to the main post when done. I hate that format.

    I am with MD in Philly — I am very used to this comment layout, I grew up with the printed page, and I think this is just fine. If Patrick decides that he wants to update the system then I am sure I’ll adapt, but I just don’t see the need for a change at this point.

    JVW (f5695c)

  73. I doubt things are going to change anytime soon.

    JD (d2dac5)

  74. My short term memory is a little mushy, but didn’t menendez say the secret service peeps should be fired for engaging with hookers?

    mg (31009b)

  75. if I paid a dominican hooker for to make sex with me and everyone found out I’d be really really embarrassed to where at first I’d probably deny it and make like it never happened and even call the hooker a liar but that wouldn’t change the fact that I paid a dominican hooker for to make sex with me

    happyfeet (4e5897)

  76. can you imagine? everywhere you go everyone would be all like hey that’s that guy what pays the dominican hookers for to make sex with him and you’d be all self-conscious and probably start drinking a lot

    happyfeet (4e5897)

  77. Sounds like they quoted him the dumb foreigner price, and he paid the “I can habla” local price. Maybe it’s just haggling.

    carlitos (49ef9f)

  78. carlitos – I’m sure this story will have a happy ending if it didn’t already. :)

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  79. . You can’t read a comment and respond to it, cuz by the time you post its 20 comments back. You are just talking to yourself.

    Comment by kinlaw — 11/1/2012

    I agree with that. Ace has an awesome blog and most of his commenters are witty, but the threads flow so fast that conversation can be difficult.

    Dustin (73fead)

  80. I have already admitted, Icy, that I can say more dumb s*** in ten words than the rest of you guys can say in a thousand.

    nk (875f57)

  81. @79

    Exactly the blog I was thinking of. Sometimes the ONT thread is okay, but during the day it just flies by.

    Yeah, Ace is one of my favorites, one of the first I started to read daily too.

    Same with Patterico’s place, I have been hanging around here a long time.

    kinlaw (2fb87c)

  82. Before HIV, my office had a client who was tested in prison (serving twenty-five years for the trying to hire a hitman to kill her husband), and found positive for herpes, syphilis and gonorrhea. Gave new meaning to “incurable romantic”. ;) I do not believe ladies of negotiable affection. I trust their “intermediaries” even less.

    nk (875f57)

  83. They claimed Menendez agreed to pay them $500 for sex acts, but in the end they each received only $100

    The other $400 depended on passing a tax hike, and those damn Republicans blocked it because of their War on Women.

    malclave (4f3ec1)

  84. Someone asked as to the comment-reading habits on this site; for me, I start at the top and try to read through to the bottom before I comment.

    As a consequence, I usually find that anything I might want to say has been said more eloquently by someone much smarter than myself. Or, I am argued out of a position that I would otherwise have espoused.

    So I end up yelling at trolls.

    Pious Agnostic (2c3220)

  85. .

    =================================

    with whom he doesn’t even want to have sexual relations

    I have every belief that he would be quite happy to cornhole us ALL.

    I might be wrong, but… would you like to wager on it?

    .

    Smock Puppet, 10th Dan Snark Master and Aviary Enthusiast (8e2a3d)

  86. I only wished the good senator had discounted our stimulus programs as he did his own

    EPWJ (c5f1fc)

  87. malcleve winz da thread.

    SPQR (818509)

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    Justin (b3a63f)

  89. Menendez has been a crook since being elected Union City NJ Mayor.

    Rodney King's Spirit (9ce6d4)

  90. What part of “short” does he not understand?
    Offshore hookers or offshore accounts… can I have both? (D)

    SteveG (831214)

  91. Comment by Pious Agnostic — 11/1/2012 @ 4:54 pm

    Thanks, Pious, for responding to the question.

    Whenever one has much to lose, like power and fame and wealth, and you risk it through illegal and or illicit interactions with those who don’t have much of anything to lose, you’ve compromised yourself. Perhaps a bunch of this is made up or greatly distorted, but then again there is sometimes an “honor among thieves”, and no one wants to be taken advantage of. Then again, did they get a hefty fee for selling their story?

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  92. Nikos Kazantzakis was likely the last existentialist. (Sartre sucked cheese.) You may know him better from The Last Temptation of Christ.

    nk (875f57)

  93. Why would a classy Latina escort engage with a low-life prostitute like this clown? Was it a “mercy trick?”

    wareagle82 (97b777)

  94. “Two Latina escorts SCREWED by American whore!”
    That should be the headline…

    wareagle82 (97b777)

  95. Wow. NK seems to know a lot about dealing with escorts and he seems to really think very little of women…

    wareagle82 (97b777)

  96. On any scale of occupational respectability I have to conclude that a 3rd world escort is several orders of magnitude higher than a democrat senator.

    Prove me wrong if you can…

    wareagle82 (97b777)

  97. A 3rd world escort is several orders of magnitude higher than the present demoncrap President.

    peedoffamerican (38ddac)

  98. Go have sex with your mother, warpoopoo.

    nk (875f57)

  99. WarEagle82,

    As they used to say about baseball player Manny Ramirez, “It’s just NK being NK.”

    Elephant Stone (65d289)

  100. I think you’re a couple of fags, Elephant Stone and WarEagle.

    nk (875f57)

  101. “No woman is trapped into prostitution.”

    nk – Educate yourself, fool.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  102. One could say that no one is trapped into doing anything they don’t want to, there is always the choice of death either quickly or slowly in the worst case scenario.
    But I would be slow to make that argument unless I had first done it myself to know what it was like.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  103. “One could say that no one is trapped into doing anything they don’t want to, there is always the choice of death”

    MD in Philly – Yes, one could say could say that about pretty much anything, but on this blog I thought such nonsensical arguments were largely reserved for our trolls.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  104. nk’s off his meds again.

    Which brings up the question:
    Are “nk” and “epwj” two sides of the same coin?
    They both seem to go through periods of ranting and raving.
    Twins separated at birth?
    Need to get the National Enquirer on this.

    AD-Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! (b8ab92)

  105. At the rate nk was going yesterday, I was expecting him to claim there is claim there is no such thing as rape based on that hoary chestnut that you can’t thread a moving needle, you know, because he loves women so much.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  106. A few extra words there

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  107. I agree daley

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  108. I read an interesting book called Soiled Doves, about prostitution in the old west towns, mining camps, etc. Some were widows from the east who had no family support or other financial resources, and some of the madams were crack businesspeople who were among the most highly respected, trusted, and compassionate individuals in that rough and male dominated milieu. Some of the “girls” died in terrible conditions– and some of them married lonely rich miners who were grateful to have them as cherished wives for the rest of both their lives.

    The book’s not all that well written, but the historical documentation and case study stories of real women was fascinating. Hint: the matriarchs of a not insignificant number of old California families started out as “fallen women”.

    elissa (d23274)

  109. elissa,

    Soiled Doves sounds very interesting. I’ve always thought that if there were a time period in our history where women really were more frequently than not trapped in prostitution, it was during the old west. You were either a wife or a school teacher or a prostitute. The choices were indeed scant. When one had nothing but their vagina to negotiate with, their future in the rough and tumble communities of mining camps, start-up towns, etc. was certainly limited.

    Deadwood gave life to this conundrum for so many. Which is why I only lasted 1/2 of the first season. Too much to take.

    And of course, in many places throughout the world, women are indeed trapped in that line of work and have very little possibility of exiting.

    Dana (292dcf)

  110. The famous Earps and Doc Holliday farmed out their women, too. The Earps took their wives out of the cribs when they left Kansas, Doc Holliday kept Big Nose Kate on her back to supply him with whiskey money in Tombstone.

    I’ll stay with my statement that no woman is trapped into prostitution. Instead of spreading her legs she can just put one foot in front of the other and walk away. But then she’d need to find another way to feed herself, her drug habit, and her pimp.

    I like women. I do not respect prostitutes. In this instance, of this post, I do not give credence to prostitutes and pimps.

    nk (875f57)

  111. My favorite wife’s grandfather ran a “saloon” with “saloon girls”, in Sacramento, at the turn of the last century, BTW. He got too old to cut down redwoods. ;)

    nk (875f57)

  112. Um, in what way is sex work less honourable than, say, law as a way to earn ones living?

    Milhouse (15b6fd)

  113. “Um, in what way is sex work less honourable than, say, law as a way to earn ones living?”

    Milhouse – Especially since it is my understanding that prostitution is legal in the Dominican Republic.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  114. I saved people from the death penalty, reduced prisoners’ sentences, and more often kept them out of jail altogether? My worst plea bargain was three months custodial and three years probation? I met prisoners outside of jail, upon their release, with $5.00 for busfare and a coffee and donut, at 5:00 am?

    nk (875f57)

  115. Guys, I never said that the girls may not choose to sell their “politics” for a living. I did say that they should not be trusted or believed.

    nk (875f57)

  116. My neighbor on the left is a Cook County Public Defender. Felony. His clients have him because they do not have bail. They are in jail waiting trial. He buys them a suit, shirt and tie, out of his own pocket for their trial. He’s a dog-loving, cat-loving, liberal, former hippie, Midwesterner ….

    nk (875f57)

  117. Milhouse – Especially since it is my understanding that prostitution is legal in the Dominican Republic.

    Comment by daleyrocks — 11/2/2012 @ 1:15 pm

    In Germany it’s mandatory.

    Snopes says it’s false. Safe. http://www.snopes.com/media/notnews/brothel.asp

    But I’ll believe the girl and not the Germans or Snopes.

    nk (875f57)

  118. hoary chestnut

    I see what you did there, daley :)

    carlitos (49ef9f)

  119. If you had voted for Christine O’Donnell you wouldn’t have this problem.

    That’s me saying I told you so.

    papertiger (e55ba0)

  120. daleyrocks,

    I’m tired of you. I am exactly at Addison and Pulaski. Tell me the time, I’ll be outside. Otherwise, go **** your mother, f****t.

    nk (875f57)

  121. “I’m tired of you.”

    nk – Your problem, not mine, tough guy. More stories about how much you love women, please.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  122. Allright, if you don’t want to go John Wayne I’ll pay for the drinks at the bar. We can fight when we’ve become comfortably numb.

    You’ve been on my a** for the longest time, and I’m serious. Meet me, drink with me, and let the strongest hands decide.

    nk (875f57)

  123. Believe that a Congressman would lie about sex and cheat a whore? Easy.

    Believe that a whore would admit to having sex with a Congressman without being first paid in full? There are whores that stupid? Oh, foreign! Didn’t know. Ya, I can believe her.

    htom (412a17)

  124. You came here from Protein Wisdom? Getting back in your own way?

    nk (875f57)

  125. 1. Menendez had sex with a prostitute.
    2. Mendendez promised $500.00 for what he could have in New Jersey for $20.00 plus the price of two condoms (sic).
    3. The pimp gave the prostitute $100.00 because pimps never keep the other $400.00.
    4. Morons.

    nk (875f57)

  126. I’m not sure why, nk, you’ve chosen to believe one prostitute over another.

    SPQR (7f0329)

  127. I was trained to detect lies and to impeach “witnesses”. But that’s commenting from a position of authority. Sorry.

    nk (875f57)

  128. Ain’t no man and no animal going to feel the whip of a slander when I’m around.

    I take back my invitations, daleyrocks. I fight men.

    Stick to your keyboard, old woman.

    nk (875f57)

  129. Comment by papertiger — 11/2/2012 @ 2:31 pm

    Wrong State.
    Please have your compass swung.

    AD-Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! (b8ab92)

  130. nk, imagine the result if you applied those cross examination skills to Menendez’ lame denials …

    SPQR (768505)

  131. NK,

    Bourbon and a keyboard don’t mix. Unless your name is Raymond Chandler. Or Charles Bukowski.

    Elephant Stone (65d289)

  132. Imagine if two prostitutes came out of nowhere tomorrow to assert Paul Ryan or Ted Cruz of ripping them off. We would scoff at such a weakly sourced story.

    That said, I expect very little from most politicians. These days, most people won’t even care if Menendez is this sleazy.

    Dustin (73fead)

  133. nk just gets touchy when people point out the galactic stupidity of some of his comments. He doesn’t like defending them and lashes out instead. It’s a conspiracy!

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  134. First rule of speaking. Don’t let your opponent make the rules of speaking.

    nk (875f57)

  135. ___________________________________________

    Yeah, I hope Mark doesn’t want this blog to have a Gawker-type threading system where you have to open each thread individually and then backtrack to the main post when done. I hate that format.

    Yea, that format is unnecessary or can become ridiculous. I saw one message board where there were so many replies to replies — sort of like Chinese boxes — that the messages ended up in super narrow columns.

    I am very used to this comment layout, I grew up with the printed page, and I think this is just fine.

    Even traditional printed pages have long followed a format where horizontal rules (ie lines) would separate one section of a page or article from the other. I wouldn’t be curious about this matter if Patterico.com were attracting plenty of new users or holding onto lots of existing visitors as other forums do. If that were the case, I’d have to come up with other guesses for why people are unenthusiastic (at least unconsciously) about using this interface.

    But to get back to the topic of this thread: If the media is going to ignore something as major and appalling as Benghazi, and if too many Americans continue to kiss sleazy Bill Clinton’s butt, is it any surprise that the exploits of a Senator from New Jersey — even when publicized — have about as much impact as a wet rag?

    Mark (66bba6)

  136. Allright, another rephrase. A man with a prostitute is not a sin, only a case of the blood going from the brain to another place.

    And why do I have this horrible feeling of deja vu?

    nk (875f57)

  137. I withdraw from the fight. I do not threaten anybody.

    nk (875f57)

  138. And I do not trust another kind of perv, either, daleyrocks. Not safe, homosexual, fag view of things. http://drudgereport.com/

    nk (875f57)

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  140. NK,

    May I kindly suggest that when you realize you’re in one of those moods where you justify lashing out at everyone, maybe you ought to simply turn off your computer.

    Elephant Stone (65d289)

  141. I lashed out at words spat out of sewers, I believe? Others took me to task for seemingly defending a Democrat?

    nk (875f57)

  142. I have stumbled upon this blog and it makes me lightheaded and I smell victory approaching this bright, sunny November morning.

    Colonel Haiku (0ffd38)

  143. menendez voted for ledbetter, stiffed teh hookers and then shortchanged ‘em, too.

    Colonel Haiku (0ffd38)

  144. “I lashed out at words spat out of sewers, I believe? Others took me to task for seemingly defending a Democrat?”

    nk – You proclaimed a belief that no women are forced into prostitution and supported your belief by tales of your grandmother. I provided a link which indirectly led to a detailed report directly contradicting your belief, including human trafficking in the U.S. Several of our distaff commenters also questioned your statement.

    I refrained from responding to your comments the first day this thread was up to see how deep a hole you would dig for yourself. Your ongoing misogyny remains troubling.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  145. A man with a prostitute is not a sin, only a case of the blood going from the brain to another place.

    And why do I have this horrible feeling of deja vu?

    Comment by nk

    ooh…ooh! cuz you woke up face down in teh street with your pockets turned inside out?

    Colonel Haiku (0ffd38)

  146. Alright, I get it. Bite me.

    nk (875f57)

  147. I am likely still man enough to teach you the lesson you need, but you’re not likely worth the trouble.

    nk (875f57)

  148. Wow! I guess nk must have picked up a lot of his “inside knowledge” on prostitution first-hand from his mom. That would explain his obvious respect and admiration for women…

    It appears “I am likely still man enough to teach you the lesson you need, but you’re not likely worth the trouble.” was his money quote when speaking to his dear mother…

    I’ve met a lot of sick people and I am grateful that nk is one I have avoided…

    What a putz.

    WarEagle82 (97b777)

  149. WarEagle82 is a piece of s**t moby. To daleyrocks, Elephant Stone and haiku, take your party line and shove it up your echo chambers.

    nk (875f57)

  150. nk, chill dude.

    SPQR (768505)

  151. Wow. Poor nk’s mother probably had a difficult evening based on that post.

    But, according to nk, she made the choice so she has no reason to complain.

    Thirty more tricks and she can buy nk an egg mcmuffin…

    WarEagle82 (97b777)


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