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Open Thread: Today’s Reasons Obama Should and/or Will Lose

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:49 am

Discussion of polls, principles, and polemics is welcome.

229 Responses to “Open Thread: Today’s Reasons Obama Should and/or Will Lose”

  1. Link good news articles and I’ll round them up tonight if I have time.

    Patterico (8b3905)

  2. Obama should lose cause his divisive brand of anti-American hate politics has to has to has to be repudiated or we’ll just get more and more of it

    happyfeet (502829)

  3. I have been working or watching elections since 1948. I learned from the real masters – the Bronx machine Democrats. I still think that the pollsters are still underestimating the Republican turnout and overestimating both the Democratic voter turnout and the voter composition. The only thing that worries me is a false call such as happened in 2000. that depressed the Republican turnout in the Florida panhandle and on the West Coast while getting some Democratic voters who were not intending to vote to go vote for Gore.

    Michael M. Keohane (3c96e7)

  4. Gotta echo happyfeet here; he ran as a uniter, he would be the post partisan president, no more red or blue states, post racial, the whole nine yards. And has been hugely divisive, arguably the most divisive president in our history.

    Class warfare, the race card, you name it. Even though I would never agree politically with him, I did used to admire him somewhat.

    Not anymore, dude’s a creep.

    kinlaw (2fb87c)

  5. He campaigned on a new and post-partisan attitude in Washington, a post-racial climate in America, a more transparent administration, and fiscal responsibility, “unlike President Bush who was spending too much money” (even though it really took off the last 2 years of the Bush presidency when the Dems controlled both houses of Congress).

    In spite of his claims on the campaign trail that he has kept all of his previous campaign commitments and promises the only thing he has done that he promised was:
    – getting us out of Iraq (and doing so in such a way that we have essentially no influence there to maintain any gains)
    – and on schedule to get us out of Afghanistan whether the situation on the ground warrants it or not.

    He has nothing to run on except:
    – don’t you like the job I said I did?
    – Bush left us a mess worse than anyone thought, even Bill Clinton couldn’t have done better
    – squirrels!!!
    – Romney is evil, evil, evil and a flip flopper, and evil
    – more squirrels
    – we’ll make things more fair by making the rich less rich (ignore the fact that we’ll make the poor poorer too, and have less revenue for government spending)
    – did I mention Romney is evil, and a flip-flopper on everything (except being evil)?
    – really big squirrels!! (oh, those are raccoons, the little bandits. Cute things. They should be the new mascot for the IRS after ObamaCare legislation takes effect) (That was Joe Biden’s contribution).

    The only reason to vote for more than 50%+ of the Dems is one is so cynical you think every politician lies like a dog and you think the way Dems lie is “better”. Otherwise, since 2000 on the Dems have not put forth a presidential candidate of any serious merit, and the Congress is filled with Dems that largely are happy to benefit from the status quo.

    I just hope Romney and enough Repubs and the general public have the backbone to follow through.

    Under Romney we will have a bit of a repeat, in that everyone will find out things are much worse than anybody thought. But I think things are such that things are so bad even I could make changes that could improve the economic picture immediately. I think things would be better today if there had been no president for the last 4 years.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  6. There has been no President for the last 4 years, just an Empty Suit(tm).

    SPQR (768505)

  7. Because his whole campaign for reelection is centered around the proposition that a 30-year-old law student ought to be able to force her Catholic university to pay for her birth control.

    JVW (f5695c)

  8. SPQR, I hate to disagree, because there is something in the suit because an empty suit would have done a better job by doing nothing. Just think, if the suit was really empty:
    – GM and Chrysler would have gone through a legal bankruptcy process and commitments would have been honored in legal order
    – somebody among the experts in the oil industry would have done a better job handling the gulf oil spill and would not have imposed a moratorium and kept it in place in spite of a court ruling otherwise. the economy of the Gulf states would be better and gas prices would be lower.
    – the military and civilian officials working in Iraq would have had an agreement that would have given the US some ability to take advantage of the sacrifice of our soldiers
    – Al Qaeda and the Taliban would not be looking at their calendars in Afghanistan. They may have been weakened by rules of engagement made by military people who knew what they were doing
    – there would have been no fast and furious
    – Black Panthers would have been put in jail for voter intimidation.
    – There would be work on a Keystone Pipeline and the economic growth that would produce.

    And that’s only a start.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  9. Why should Obama lose? Besides being a liey liar, abandoning Americans to slaughter, destroying the economy, imposing executive orders like a tyrant, world apology and bowing tour, and being an Anti-American commie SOB! Damn, I just can’t really think of any valid reasons for the POS not to be re-elected.

    peedoffamerican (4269b6)

  10. Great answers above and I think mine basically repeat a couple. Just a partial list:

    1. “I won”
    2. 57 states
    3. it’s good when you spread the wealth around
    4. I think at some point you’ve made enough money
    5. the police acted stupidly
    6. golf golf golf
    7. party party party
    8. bow bow bow
    9. wish i were Hu Jintao and didn’t have to deal with this pesky democracy stuff
    10. “you’d think they’d be thanking me”
    11. actually accepting the Nobel Peace Prize
    12. making the speech for the next year’s Peace Prize winner, a jailed political prisoner, all about himself
    13. halo halo halo
    14. “they talk about me like a dog”
    15. “c’mon guys, I answered like eight questions”
    16. l’etat, c’est moi
    17. Republicans are “enemies” who need to be “punish[ed]” and a “blister” that need to be “pop[ped]” (both at fundraisers, I believe)
    18. they cling to their guns and religion and antipathy to people who don’t look like them
    19. they hate me cause I don’t look like the other presidents on the bills
    20. ramming Obamacare down everyone’s throat when 85% of us were happy, lying through his teeth to “sell” it, without even an attempt at a bipartisan solution, using all sorts of dirty tricks
    21. “I’M OFFENDED” that people dare ask me questions about Benghazi or anything else (see: Hu Jintao, above)
    22. the Catholic Church and every other prolife person WILL bow to me and LIKE it. F*** their stupid conscience — I come first!

    and bonus First Lady reason: twice she takes Air Force One four hours early to expensive vacation spots (one of them a long flight to Hawaii) because waiting just a few hours, either for her husband’s sake or for ours, is beneath her.

    no one you know (08a570)

  11. Your right NOYK, I forgot to mention the Grinch who steals children’s lunches.

    peedoffamerican (4269b6)

  12. John Nolte at Breitbart is reporting:


    There’s all kinds of spin out there regarding early voters, especially from Team Obama and their allies in the CorruptMedia, but I don’t believe in tea leaves, I believe in numbers. Gallup provided numbers and those numbers (with a huge 3,300 sample) show Romney winning early voters by a margin of 52-47%. And now we have hard numbers out of Florida showing Democrats well behind their early vote lead when compared to this time last year:

    But a Republican yesterday noted that at this point in 2008, Democrats held a 134,774-vote lead in Florida. As of yesterday. Democrats led by less than 41,000 – a nearly 70 percent drop…

    ropelight (f90c90)

  13. To begin with he is a congenital fraud, whose ‘hidden’ history is itself a fraud.

    Who misrepresented himself, his beliefs, his associations, his corrupt nature and practices, and his intent as POTUS, to get elected.

    Who day in, day out, attacks various and sundry for failing to do what is best, for maintaining and fostering an unfair racist culture, who gives a hat-tip to the truth regarding the current state of affairs, falsely stating it is his intent and the likely outcome of his efforts to correct said causes and proceeds to do the diametric opposite, undermining the nation, its government, and betraying its citizens.

    His oath to uphold the Constitution was knowingly false.

    By a number of actions, orders and contrivances he has committed treason and treachery. Some such acts are well known and merely to be substantiated others are yet to be fully revealed.

    But lists of his crimes are being detailed.

    He need not hold office to undergo trial.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  14. Because if I was a U.S. Ambassador, anywhere in the world, I would resign because the position is now a death sentence.
    The current White House and ‘State’ junta has proven to be too fickle.

    PP_troller (5cd8bb)

  15. Because he puts ketchup on his hot dog. Absolutely smothers the thing in ketchup.

    Hayabusa (d3a02c)

  16. Because he is an incompetent, lying, incompetent at lying, craven coward.

    htom (412a17)

  17. It’s not a matter of Life or Death;
    it’s much more serious than that!

    AD-Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! (b8ab92)

  18. The things he does are terrible; the things he refuses to do are worse.

    ukuleledave (c59551)

  19. MD in Philly, if you are going to disagree with me, you could at least do me the courtesy of doing so with more amusing reasons. Damn, that’s a depressing list of why the most incompetent President in modern history should be kicked out of office immediately.

    I really do think impeachment is appropriate between Fast & Furious and his lying in the Benghazi affair.

    SPQR (768505)

  20. Obama will lose because a “swing state” where Obama can can win even while losing independents by a wide margin wouldn’t be a swing state to begin with.

    Ace sums this up nicely:

    Also, GOP turnout is going to be higher than DEM turnout. So… take those two together and Obama is toast.

    FellowAmerican (a585af)

  21. It’s only a flesh wound:

    We are really, really sick of the jug-eared fool.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  22. Sign’s he’ll lose:

    His campaign abandoned Florida.

    He’s started running ads in Michigan and Minnesota.

    AFL-CIO is resorting to threatening mailers claiming “your voting history is public record; don’t cross us”. In Oregon.

    Rob Crawford (e6f27f)

  23. i agree, SPQR, when Obama is reelected he should be immediately impeached, Biden and Hillary too.

    EPWJ (b3df72)

  24. Today’s Reasons Obama Should and/or Will Lose

    LOL Rather than why Romney should win, eh… what a tell.

    You’re a bit behind the curve. too. God spitballed His 2012 vote low and slow across the Jersey Shore, Monday. The 2016 campaign has already begun– witness your next candidate, Chris Christie, waltzing along the wrecked boardwalks with the President of the United States for $100 million a dance. Romney collecting cans of Buckeye beets can’t beat that Federal disaster aid in the months to come and vital help from FEMA– the agency Mitt wanted to dissolve. Shudda just cut a check to the Red Cross, Willard.

    But can Christie beat Hillary? Today he looks a strong maybe.

    DCSCA (9d1bb3)

  25. International Man of Parody is nothing if not consistent.

    FEMA– the agency Mitt wanted to dissolve.


    Shudda just cut a check to the Red Cross, Willard.

    How do you know he didn’t? Or hasn’t? He asked his supporters to, repeatedly. He has donated more to charity in a year than Obama and Biden have in their lifetimes.

    This is JournoLister nonsense all wrapped up in a tidy little package.

    JD (436368)

  26. I’m pretty sure that New Jersey would have done just fine without FEMA, just as I’m sure that FEMA did the very best they could during Katrina, given that there were no local authorities still on the job, and the state was actively trying to prevent outside help.

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  27. Obama is a terrible politician and terrible leader. That’s why he should lose. He was a great campaigner in 2008. I had some hope that would translate into some ability to surround himself with the right people to run the country. But I confused cause and affect there, Obama was no George W. Bush style of leader.***

    Summing up the news stories of the past 3.5 years, the Republicans were obstinate obstructionists fecklessly objecting to everything Obama wanted yet Obama’s biggest bill passed, Obama saved the car companies, and Obama’s Supreme Court nominees made it through.

    How his Presidency has played out in the press has left him with a terrible record. All of his legislative successes were divisive, because he refused to work with the Republican party. He cannot blame the current state of the economy on Republicans due to his actual successes. He’s been out on the golf course too much to make the claim that he has been constantly struggling with the Republicans. He’s not a uniter, he’s not a tough guy in the Teddy Roosevelt mold, he’s not a champion or hero, he’s not a leader.

    ***In my opinion, George W.’s greatest leadership ability was surrounding himself with people that were smarter and more knowledgeable than himself without caring that it sometimes made him look dumb or weak in comparison. Obama picked Biden as a V.P.

    Xmas (05d9ed)

  28. Disco Stupid strikes again.

    Earth to IMP, Hillary is not going to run in 2016 — take it to de bank. As for the lie about Mitt . . . typical.

    Icy (7382ec)

  29. “Pick good people, get them what they need to do their jobs, and get out of their way. People will think you’re a great leader.” — any number of mentors over the years

    “You shine in the light generated by your people.” — USMC MGSGT Hart, when I ducked praise, correctly claiming I hadn’t had anything to do with what they’d done.

    htom (412a17)

  30. Obama will lose because there’s no way Romney wins independents by 10-15 points and loses either the PV or the EC. It’s just not possible.

    And because Obama’s early vote advantage from 2008 is gone.

    And because Republicans are even or winning in absentee ballots as well.

    And because Republicans are more enthusiastic.

    Nate Silver can give more weight to D+8 polls and give a PPP poll from 2 weeks ago more weight than a PPP poll from one week ago (the only difference being in that the more heavily weighted poll, Obama is ahead by more) all he wants, when stuff doesn’t make sense it just doesn’t make sense no matter how great your “model” is.

    deepelemblues (6d66f6)

  31. I agree with deepel.

    At least 20% of the pro-Obama answers are given in shame at being considered racist. Those people will either stay home or change their vote last minute on some pretext like “Oh, that Romney speech today nailed it!”

    Patricia (e1d89d)

  32. I could fill a page-long laundry list, but what grinds my gears most is the takeover of student loans. My daughter worked her ass off to graduate college Magna Cum Laude last year. She had no problem with paying interest on a loan, hell, it’s a loan. But, her interest used to employ hard working people in the private sector. Now it funds Obamacare.

    sybilll (ec4aff)

  33. Among his lengthy executive decisions, conservative NJ GOP governor Chris Christie has requested the maximum Federal funding assistance– and cancelled Halloween until next Monday. There’s your 2016 candidate in action. Keep that cash flowing and the candy high and dry, Gov’na. The 2016 race is on, Hillary.

    DCSCA (9d1bb3)

  34. There are some very solid reason why I believe Obama should (and will) lose and they are covered above.

    I will just add that a few more reasons that have sealed the deal for me are:

    *The president’s reluctance to verbally, forcefully and on the side of freedom, give his support to the young Iranians protesting in 2009. I want my president to never, ever waver or pause before throwing America’s support behind those risking their lives to know freedom.

    *Benghazi, of course.

    *And although the President has not been directly responsible for others in his party for this, I will add that 4 years of being falsely accused of being a racist because I disagree with the President’s policies is enough for me to believe that nothing good can come from an administration who not only lashes out with this rhetoric, but more importantly, refuses to publicly disavow and condemn it within their own ranks. The buck stops with the President.

    Dana (292dcf)

  35. IMP is hitting the crack pipe again.

    If leftists didn’t have straw people to torch, they would have nothing. I think it is not possible for them to rationally discuss a topic witness above.

    JD (436368)

  36. Because his Momma don’t dance and
    his Daddy don’t Rock’n’ Roll

    pdbuttons (631b6d)

  37. If Obama is re-elected, he would inherit a terrible economy, and he’s already expressed he can’t succeed when inheriting a bad economy.

    On the other hand, Romney turned failing business models around, he turned the failing Olympics around, and he turned a failed commonwealth (Taxachusetts) around.

    Let’s allow Romney to inherit the bad economy—he’ll know what to do with it.

    Elephant Stone (65d289)

  38. And although the President has not been directly responsible for others in his party for this, I will add that 4 years of being falsely accused of being a racist because I disagree with the President’s policies is enough for me to believe that nothing good can come from an administration who not only lashes out with this rhetoric, but more importantly, refuses to publicly disavow and condemn it within their own ranks.

    Dana, I am hoping that there are some moderates who voted for Obama four years ago who will change their votes — even if they aren’t going public with the switch — because of the awful racial demagoguery from Obama supporters. Four more years of Obama will probably set back race relations by a full generation, especially if the Supreme Court rules against the University of Texas in the Fisher case.

    JVW (f5695c)

  39. you could at least do me the courtesy of doing so with more amusing reasons.
    I really do think impeachment is appropriate between Fast & Furious and his lying in the Benghazi affair.
    Comment by SPQR — 10/31/2012 @ 12:10 pm

    Some days I can be amusing, other days the seriousness has to take front row seat, and some days I’m just not very witty (no, there is no poll asking the respective percentages).
    Let’s hope impeachment isn’t necessary, but a House and Senate lead by Republicans have their hearings.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  40. Let’s hope impeachment isn’t necessary, but a House and Senate lead by Republicans have their hearings.

    From a practical standpoint, if Obama wins reelection you can probably forget the Republicans taking the Senate this year. The earliest that the GOP would be able to assume control of both houses of Congress (barring a party-switch by Senators) is January 2015, at which point Obama will be down to his final two years and there won’t be much interest in impeachment (it would be a replay of Clinton in ’99).

    I don’t think the House would entertain impeachment in the next year or so knowing full well that it would simply die in the Senate.

    I have made this prediction before so I’ll repeat it here: If Barack Obama wins reelection next week he will leave office in January 2017 will dismally low approval ratings, similar to those of his predecessor. In the next four years he won’t be able to contain the sh*tstorm of scandals and mismanagement that has been welling up, and his economic plans and foreign policy are mostly leftovers from the Mondale and Dukakis policy platforms, so they will certainly lead us nowhere.

    JVW (f5695c)

  41. I don’t have any new reasons why I think Obama will lose, but I would like to wish everyone a Happy Halloween.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  42. Drudge is teasing a “sex scandal” with a photo of Obama.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  43. Business Insider thinks it is much ado about nothing.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  44. One more reason Barry will lose is, he had this for lunch.

    peedoffamerican (ee1de0)

  45. Gather ’round Gather ’round
    Everybody Gather ’round..
    They[?] Asked Ray Davies..”What do you think of Bruce Springsteen..?”
    ” I don’t Drive” t

    pdbuttons (631b6d)

  46. Isn’t “business insider” run by an unethical yahoo douche what looks like the last surviving member of a lost tribe of ginger ferret-men?

    I trust mr. drudge more than yahoo douche ferrets i think

    happyfeet (e5eb5a)

  47. Obama shoulda kept it in his mom jeans now he has to pay the piper

    happyfeet (e5eb5a)

  48. it’s that seedy secret service I bet… they’re such a bad influence on impressionable peer-influenced kids like food stamp

    happyfeet (e5eb5a)

  49. If u only go up to ur knees
    them penis seeking 3rd world thin things won’t go up ur penis and make u krazy
    I was always on the side..I think it’s on record
    Of the Astronaut Diaper Lady… ‘And I’d like to say I think she should marry “Balloon Space guy landing on his feet Austrian”
    So say all of us! And so say all of Us!

    pdbuttons (631b6d)

  50. Barry will also lose because America is now seeing that he is a lying.

    peedoffamerican (ee1de0)

  51. DRJ–there have been a lot of “rumor” fizzles lately. The Donald Trump thang–yawn. The Gloria Allred court records thang–a big nothingburger. I think these “developing” rumors are headlined more than anything to keep the campaigns off balance and to get the twittisphere a-buzzing. Guess we’ll see what Matt’s got soon enough.

    elissa (e41bf9)

  52. This probably it doesn’t mean anything.

    Republicans Have Won Every November 6th Presidential Election Since 1860

    Gerald A (f26857)

  53. I don’t see a sex scandal hurting any Democrat, even if it were Obama.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  54. it might put a dent in the number of schools what get named after him though… especially if he been gettin freaky deaky

    happyfeet (e5eb5a)

  55. A Drudge update says it involves a “powerful Senator” and will be published at the Daily Caller tonight.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  56. If it’s a sex scandal, it will only matter if it’s a Republican. Those are the rules.

    Dana (292dcf)

  57. Ace says:

    The story involves a Senator flying down to a big donor’s place in the Caribbean for orgies. Hookers are involved.

    The One Big Snag in the story is that the story comes from hookers — a couple of them, I hear — and their credibility is, well. They’re hookers. It’s not Gold Standard.

    They’re miffed because they didn’t get fully paid for services rendered.

    Follow the link for Ace’s good advice.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  58. If Corzine’s theft of over a billion bucks didnt hurt Barcky, I doubt this will.

    JD (436368)

  59. I don’t see how this will matter if it’s a Democrat. Of course, the media will make sure it matters if it’s a Republican.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  60. Ace also says the rumor is it’s a Democratic senator.

    Dana (292dcf)

  61. how fun

    happyfeet (e5eb5a)

  62. It’s the same story as the Secret Service, only with Senators instead of security personnel. If anything, people expect this kind of behavior from politicians.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  63. Frankly, I’m interested in who the donor is. Or maybe I should say the pimp.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  64. Bets on who it is? Kerry? Shumer? Durbin?

    JD (436368)

  65. Maybe it would cause a bit of a shock if the Senator were Barbara Boxer or Diane Feinstein….otherwise, nothing.

    Dana (292dcf)

  66. Obama should and will lose….He is a bald-faced, craven, helpless liar; he has no real track record for his squandered term; unless one gets freebies, who is better off than 4 yrs ago; and he is a SCOAMF base liar

    Angelo (5d0534)

  67. I’m guessing wyden

    happyfeet (e5eb5a)

  68. I’m trying to think here–aren’t all the Democrat Senators (of either gender) like 80 or something? So won’t it be more Eeuw than wow? But if it’s true, and is a real scandal, please G__d let it be Lurch.

    elissa (e41bf9)

  69. elissa, you have a point

    Dana (292dcf)

  70. again I say
    you shouldn’t pee in ur neighbors poolwhen u got a baby ruth bar masticulatin’ in your cousins moufFat E#lvis!

    pdbuttons (631b6d)

  71. Clambake..Elvis tried t o right his boat against evil Bill Bixby[Koch Brother} while trying to win The sexy big haired Shelley Fabrare all the while he was clambaking[ bless his heart]

    pdbuttons (631b6d)

  72. Actually, it might make a difference if the Senator is running for re-election, especially if the race is close.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  73. Yes, a story about someone running for re-election in 2012 would be the most interesting. I just noticed that Insty has this on his site:

    THE DEADBEAT CLUB: A helpful reminder for anybody owed money by a Democratic organization. “Specifically: if you’re a vendor who has sold goods or services to either the DNC, the DCCC, and/or OfA, and you have not been paid yet… this is the week to settle your bills.”

    I suppose it could just be a coincidence –or it could be one of Glenn’s subtle zingers.

    elissa (e41bf9)

  74. Elissa – they could just tax Team R, ask them to give just a little more, for the fairness.

    JD (436368)

  75. ______________________________________________

    Should Obama lose (God willing), but only by a small margin, that in itself will be sort of a win for him and his ilk. That all alone will symbolize just how ideologically extreme and Greece-like, Mexico-like, Argentina-like, France-like the United States has become and will become.

    After all, it’s not like Obama has a reputable, decent, transparent history, one wedded to mainstream liberalism, at least by the standards of decades ago. In turn, it’s not like his competitor has a scroungy, marginal background, one that’s bogged down by extremist ideology, by “Goddamn America!” ultra-conservatism—assuming such a philosophy exists to a great enough degree that any politician who espouses it will nonetheless have gotten through the vetting process.

    Mark (66bba6)

  76. Does he look worried;

    yes, there is a whole industry, designed to contextualize minimize their foibles,

    narciso (ee31f1)

  77. Should lose: Didn’t do the things he said he would do on the left (immediately end DADT, close Guantanomo) and the right (find and eliminate bad government programs, sunshining all legislation.)

    Will lose: Won’t. I got the popular vote exactly right last time (to the tenths place); this one’s harder with all the complications. I’m betting on Obama 50.5% of the popular vote, 300+ electoral votes. He wins all the swing states except maybe Florida – and Florida’s not enough.

    Most entertaining (very remote) possibility: Romney/Biden become president and VP. (It’s possible. Really.)

    JRM (cd0a37)

  78. The number one reason Dog needs to lose is there’s only one phone per cell block at Leavenworth.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  79. 81. Along with this story

    And the story that WH was filling Green Shoots money launderers wheelbarrows full, BootBlack is fish food.


    Morris, “Eight GOP takeaways and two giveaways for a net gain of six. A 53-47 Senate, just like we have now, only opposite.

    Barack Obama’s parting gift to the Democratic Party.”

    I think he’s wrong tho, Nelson and Brown are goners too.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  80. 80. DogVomit tally “50.5%”

    Neat trick as he hasn’t polled that high in months and is headed down everywhere, on average.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  81. True Battleground states have tight races with low percentages of undecideds, like WI at just 2%.

    The interesting thing is the Blue leaners have rather higher undecideds like OR at 12%.

    You think, seriously, that Undecideds are going to fall in Dog’s bowl?

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  82. elissa #69 …

    And just what makes you think it isn’t Senator Feinstein ? Or Senator Boxer ? Or even Senator McCaskill ?


    Alasdair (2cd241)

  83. Oh – and Romney for the win – cuz enough of the population realises that the choice is between the policies of the middle 1930s and the policies of the early 1980s …

    Alasdair (2cd241)

  84. Should Obama lose (God willing), but only by a small margin, that in itself will be sort of a win for him and his ilk. That all alone will symbolize just how ideologically extreme and Greece-like, Mexico-like, Argentina-like, France-like the United States has become and will become.

    You have a point there, Mark. All those college kids from 2008 who were pushing the whole Hope and Change nonsense will probably finally get around to graduating in 2013 or 2014 with their Peace Studies and Queer Studies and Gender Studies degrees only to find that there are no jobs available. Since Romney will be in the White House at that point, they will naturally blame him. Thus, we will left will all of these 22-29 year-old disillusioned leftists who will have nothing better to do than re-create the Occupy camps in every city in America. It ain’t gonna be fun.

    JVW (f5695c)

  85. 20-something americans aren’t a particularly fearsome lot

    don’t you ever watch mtv?

    happyfeet (e5eb5a)

  86. I cast my first (and every succeeding vote since 1972) DEM….Today, even though my California vote is meaningless-I am enthusiastically voting R/R.

    I loathe Obama for: lying, grandstanding, mugging and 3.5 years of systematic mangling of my country. He surrounds himself with frauds, scary liars and inept bunglers. His spouse has the charisma of a jackal.

    Four years ago I supported his campaign including with donations; I expected his slogans to equate to an epiphany of good will and progress. Instead I got executive orders “allowing” amnesty; no jobs; we are broke; mega-cronyism; Obamacare; and now Benghazi-gate.

    I gotta guess there are many furious, disenchanted Dems out there, lots. Color me red, this election baby! Clambake comments—funny!

    dudeabides (e44c5e)

  87. Feet, twenty-something Americans aren’t all that fearsome, but the whole point of your twenties is to prepare yourself to assume leadership roles in your thirties and forties and beyond. I would guess, for instance, that most people in middle management reach that point in their 30s, just as most people who get into politics make their first run at office in their 30s or 40s.

    If the millennial generation spends its entire 20s bit**ing and moaning about how rotten they have it, what will happen in 5-10 years when we need them to move into those middle management positions? I guess we’ll have to wreck the economy beforehand so that they aren’t faced with this insurmountable challenge.

    JVW (f5695c)

  88. hope for the best, plan for the worst, is what my friend P’s dead grandmother used to say

    happyfeet (e5eb5a)

  89. #92 – before or after said sainted lady’s demise, Mr Feets ?

    Alasdair (2cd241)

  90. Greece has become the poster child of “loser”, it seems. I’m glad I’m a penguin.

    nk (875f57)

  91. it was definitely before

    i never met her myself she was belgian and snooty

    happyfeet (e5eb5a)

  92. mr. menendez should stop paying for sex with dominican hoochie mamas and start figuring out how our pitiful little country is gonna pay for all of food stamp’s ruinous spending

    that’s just my advice

    plus his state what he represents is very soggy still

    happyfeet (e5eb5a)

  93. We all pay for it, one way or another, happyfeet.

    And whenever you believe what a whore says, start shopping nursing homes.

    nk (875f57)

  94. honestly I’ll the word of a dominican hooker over the word of a us senator any day

    there’s whores and then there’s whores

    happyfeet (49b0c7)

  95. I have never scolded you for calling women hoochies, although you should not.

    There is nothing cheaper than words, and nothing more valuable than a woman’s body. A lady who sells her body will sell her words.

    nk (875f57)

  96. So is the GF on the trip with you?

    nk (875f57)

  97. 42.I don’t have any new reasons why I think Obama will lose, but I would like to wish everyone a Happy Halloween.

    Comment by DRJ — 10/31/2012 @ 5:52 pm

    A full moon and a blue moon, both, on Halloween. I’m staying up late waiting for the elder gods to break through. Safe link.

    nk (875f57)

  98. Mr. Feets – If Sen. Menendez was off-shoring his hooker needs, President Obama will not be pleased with him.

    OTOH, if was a case of a job American hookers just would not do, what can you do?

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  99. I am just relieved it was not Barbara Mikulski involved with the big donor orgy/hooker story.

    You’re welcome.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  100. I would leave the girls alone. Their pimps … slow fire. I like the way the story calls the pimps “intermediaries”.

    nk (875f57)

  101. Ted Williams frozen head believed Dominican hookers were bad for u say…base..ball but his unfrozen body was all in
    Ted Williams unfrozen body vs. Jesse Jackson jr chariot driver! Poor Macbeth

    pdbuttons (631b6d)

  102. Obama should lose because he’s done nothing but campaign for the last 4 years–he doesn’t know how to govern; he blames everyone in sight for his own shortcomings; his narcisism prevents him from listening to others; he surrounds himself with incomptent people who tell him how great he is; and not only is he a liar, but he’s a bad liar–the man isn’t competent at anything.

    rochf (f3fbb0)

  103. I was worried last week but after Obamas failed leadership during Sandy not so much anymore. Leading from behind Christie (although to be fair he tends to eclipse everyone) and slow disaster relief shoe a government in over its head. OTOH, mitts suggestion to privatize FEMA will resonate with voters who know that government is never the solution.

    Dry Powder (cf1d1c)

  104. Closers held it again this time, nk.

    I think.

    luagha (0be0f5)

  105. 107 rochf…but, but, but- choom insists he HAS fulfilled his promises and commitments made in 2008.
    Cracked me up to see some of the comments various clueless Obots say about him. Such as unlike Dubya, Urkel actually cares about the blacks and poor people or Obama has excellent integrity? Of course there are others who ask why Christie has his tongue up Obama’s arse. I suppose that is just political expediency. So if Obama at last works with a Repub that means we should overlook the past four years? When are we going to start hanging media types who cover for this outlaw administration, from lamp posts?

    Calypso Louis Farrakhan (e799d8)

  106. This reminds me of happyfeet’s style, except with capitals.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  107. And exclamation points, of course.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  108. This isn’t terribly surprising, considering Lamb’s testimony

    narciso (ee31f1)

  109. Hungry New Yorkers are eating out of dumpsters. Where is the all-powerful government now, and who will New Yorkers blame?

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  110. Food critics have been saying that for years…

    EPWJ (c5f1fc)

  111. Who is voting for Mitt Romney? AKA let’s save America.

    Catholics – who have been challenged by Obama in their faith and beliefs.
    Blacks – who are against same-sex marriages as being immoral and who have suffered most from Obama’s failures.
    Whites – who see that Blacks are voting for Obama because he’s Black; Whites will vote for Whites.
    Republicans – none of which voted for Obamacare.
    Tea Party followers – who like in 2010 are throwing out Liberals and RHINOS again.
    Coal Miners – who are taking Obama’s threats to end coal mining in America seriously.
    Vehicle drivers – those who are faced with TWICE the cost of gas since Obama took office.
    Jobless workers – those who have been waiting for Obama to create jobs, but hasn’t; many have left the job market.
    Stock and Bond holders – many of whom were shafted when GM and Chrysler went bankrupt.
    Small Business owners – who have repeatedly been ignored by Obama.
    Citizens against Obamacare – because of the upcoming increase in taxes and excessive regulation if Obamacare is not repealed.
    Jewish folks – because Obama has not visited Israel even once since taking office; and Obama’s bad attitude toward Israel.
    Hispanics – those who know that Obama’s failure to create sufficient jobs is hurting the U.S. economy in a bad way.
    Business people – millions who are hesitant to grow because of the vast uncertainty due to Obama and Obamacare.
    Workers – facing layoffs, underemployment and a worsening economy; lower wages.
    Shoppers – those who see prices rising and product size shrinking; inventories reduced.
    Concerned Citizens – who see the Benghazi incident as an Obama failure and even treasonous (un-American).
    Concerned Citizens – who see Obama’s foreign policies as dangerous and failures.
    Persons of Faith – who recognize Obama’s forcing provision by them of contraception to employees as Constitutional violations.
    Gun owners – who have always been against the extreme liberal ideas Obama has for gun control.
    Local government officials – who see Obama’s federal encroachment as unacceptable.
    Truckers – who see the high price of gas as an attack on their livelihood.
    Oil business – that reject Obama’s curbs on off-shore drilling.
    Oil industry workers – that recognize the Keystone pipeline as Obama’s failure to encourage jobs and job growth.
    Americans – who view Obama’s encouragement of high oil prices and lowered U.S. oil production as favoring OPEC and Arabs.
    Concerned Congressmen – those that recognize that Obama has no cogent foreign policy, which could prove to be dangerous.
    Homeowners – who have seen their life saving and equity go down the drain because Obama has done nothing on the economy.
    Health care providers – doctors and others who see Obamacare as a threat to their income; and harmful extreme regulations.
    Concerned citizens – that are very concerned about the U.S. deficit and Obama’s extreme radical uncontrolled spending.
    Others – concerned about Obama’s illegal activities, Fast and Furious, Benghazi, not defending DOMA, condoning illegal aliens.
    Abortion foes – object to Obama’s callous lack of concern for the unborn and Obama’s radical third trimester abortion views.
    Concerned Americans – who have been outright lied to by Obama when he claimed his administration would be transparent.
    Car manufacturers – those that have seen car sales drop with Obama’s bad economy and economic policies hurting sales.
    Housing developers – who like many others have seen the Obama economy cripple home construction and lower profits.
    Mormons – who support Mitt Romney as a person of faith, good character, and honest principles.
    Economists – that have expressed encouragement that Romney’s experience and knowledge will lead to true hope and results.
    Military – seeing that Obama’s cuts will endanger their ability to protect our country.
    Independents – who already have provided a surge for Romney, are convinced that the past 4 years of Obama is enough.
    Evangelicals – who organized the largest get-out-the-vote for conservatism ever, in their concerted effort to defeat Obama.
    Conservatives – a majority in U.S., are pushing hard to take the Senate, Presidency and House for the good of America.
    Skeptics – who 4 years ago were duped into believing in Obama’s Hope and Change that eventually came to nothing, just lies.
    Disillusioned Democrats – who have been utterly disappointed in Obama and will not vote for Obama or not vote at all.

    and millions, millions more against Obama and his lies and failures.

    Vote Mitt Romney/Paul Ryan. Let’s make America strong and great again because we can!

    AdrianS (6bcbdf)

  112. A friend of mine in Wisconsin has a business in a small town, employing half the town. 145 employed, if Mitt wins he stays, if not he has land and will build a plant in Costa Rica. For this town and many like it, Win it Mitt.

    mg (31009b)

  113. 117. Thanks for the accounting.

    I had a couple of Libs tell me in all seriousness today that I was letting my family down. Like skipping town with the barmaid sort of overtones.

    Nice to know I can look for support somewhere.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  114. Christians have been fed lies from the democrats for too long.
    This group of Americans could show up in huge numbers. Thank God.

    mg (31009b)

  115. I think this Las Vegas paper summed it up nicely in this editorial:

    Benghazi blunder: Obama unworthy commander-in-chief

    This administration is an embarrassment on foreign policy and incompetent at best on the economy – though a more careful analysis shows what can only be a perverse and willful attempt to destroy our prosperity.

    …These behaviors go far beyond “spin.” They amount to a pack of lies. To return to office a narcissistic amateur who seeks to ride this nation’s economy and international esteem to oblivion, like Slim Pickens riding the nuclear bomb to its target at the end of the movie “Dr. Strangelove,” would be disastrous.

    Candidate Obama said if he couldn’t fix the economy in four years, his would be a one-term presidency.

    Mitt Romney is moral, capable and responsible man. Just this once, it’s time to hold Barack Obama to his word. Maybe we can all do something about that, come Tuesday.

    I believe you can call this an endorsement, once you wade through the niceties.

    Steve57 (320590)

  116. Beat me to it, Steve. And, happyfeet, eat your heart out for that Slim Pickens simile.

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  117. I note that Paul Otellini, Intel CEO and a member of President Barack Obama’s Council on Jobs and Competitiveness, has just endorsed Romney.

    Apparently, Otellini doesn’t think Obama’s economic policies have been working all that well.

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  118. Meanwhile, Argentina’s disastrous administration passed a law lowering the voting age to 16, having run out of older fools. It’s a good thing this isn’t easy in the US.

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  119. 110.Closers held it again this time, nk.

    I think.

    Comment by luagha — 11/1/2012 @ 7:43 am

    Thank you, luagha. Such as it is, I like the world the way it is too.

    nk (875f57)

  120. Dashiell Hammet, Donald Hamilton, Roger Zelazny. The Bible. Nothing more need be read.

    nk (875f57)

  121. narciso, the fact that the Obama administration did absolutely nothing, they didn’t even convene a meeting of the NSC or CSG, is pointing to several ugly possibilities. On this thread I linked to some good analysis about the Turkish government possibly being complicit. The Turkish consul general left his meeting at 8:30, at least a half hour after Ansar al Sharia sealed off the neighborhood with roadblocks. Libyan eyewitnesses said no one could get in or out. Yet the Turkish diplomat did?

    Clearly many in the Libyan government were complicit as well. As was the 17th of February militia.

    And we know the Obama administration ignored US Embassy Tripoli’s concerns about security in Benghazi, ignored the requests for aid once the attack started and throughout the night, with someone in the office of the National Security Adviser’s office telling forces to stand-down and that this was “not a terrorist action.”

    That they didn’t convene the CSG means they didn’t even consider this a potential terrorist attack.

    Perhaps it wasn’t. The US government has an official definition of terrorism and it includes these elements:

    …and (B) appears to be intended (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by assassination or kidnapping.

    It seems as if someone in the WH acted as if they knew for a fact this assault wasn’t intended to achieve any of the above objectives.

    Then keep in mind Obama has a very close relationship with PM Erdogan of Turkey.

    Obama’s friend in Turkey

    As President Obama was feeling his way in foreign policy during his first months in office, he decided to cultivate a friendship with Turkey’s headstrong prime minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

    …“My prime minister sees a friend in President Obama,” says Egemen Bagis, the minister for European affairs and one of Erdogan’s closest political advisers. “The two can very candidly express their opinions. They might not always agree, but they feel confident enough to share positions.”

    So Obama’s personal representative in Libya meets with Erdogan’s senior diplomat in Benghazi, then waltzes through the barricades Ansar al Sharia had set up to seal off the consulate, then the administration essentially acts as if what happens next is no surprise. No CSG meeting as per the reports it they declared it not an act of terrorism.

    As if they knew what it was. No NSC meeting, either. In fact even after learning Stevens was unaccounted for Obama went to bed.

    Just saying, they were remarkably indifferent to security prior to the events of that night, and incredibly uncurious about the events of that night. Not just Obama. Panetta’s BS about lacking good intel about these events which precluded a military response is revealing. The way to fix that problem (which really wasn’t the problem on 9/11/2012) is to send collection assets into the area. Yet they didn’t send anything from outside of Libya, and they were available.

    Everything points to the fact that they didn’t care, weren’t too concerned, and not really eager to learn about what was happening. As if they had no need to learn. It’s very strange.

    Steve57 (320590)

  122. Well Steve, it was meant to signal to the Magarief regime, that despite their vote back in June, the Salafis had the initiative, this is something the
    LOC report focused on,

    narciso (ee31f1)

  123. Erdogan is the model for what they want, a nominally
    democratic, but functionally Islamist state,

    narciso (ee31f1)

  124. Did Obama do one thing right? Just one? Anyone?

    The Emperor (08c3d2)

  125. The Emperor, he broke his promise to close Guantanamo Bay and he broke his promise to try the 9/11 plotters in New York in a civilian court.

    Both correct decisions but brazenly faithless ones.

    SPQR (768505)

  126. Well the mistake was in making those promises in the first place,

    narciso (ee31f1)

  127. narciso, indeed – they were naive promises of someone with no clue what he was talking about.

    SPQR (768505)

  128. Sent his kids to an elite school that threw out other black kids because their vouchers were invalidated. Who wants to go to school with poor black classmates?

    nk (875f57)

  129. Oh, yeah. He also sent brave young men to commit murder and then took the credit as though he had led the mission.

    nk (875f57)

  130. @SPQR, so he did nothing right? Not even one? Partisanship aside.

    The Emperor (09061e)

  131. narciso, I agree 100% about Erdogan turning Turkey into Obama’s model muslim “democracy.”

    Recall how Obama addressed the Turkish parliament in April 2009. Why Turkey as one of his first state visits?

    There is something very fishy about this Benghazi business. I’m not drawing any conclusions about some of the more bizarre conspiracy theories floating around the web. I was always more inclined to chalk it up to nuclear weapons grade incompetence.

    But those theories become more plausible everyday. We aren’t talking about mutually exclusive possibilities. They are definitely amateurs but that doesn’t mean there couldn’t be some sort of hairbrained scheme here as well.

    A very incompetent, wildly stupid “plan” that went horribly wrong. As plans dreamed up by clueless incompetents are famously known to do.

    Steve57 (320590)

  132. The Emperor, I listed one.

    SPQR (768505)

  133. You tell us, chimp. We’ll listen.

    nk (875f57)

  134. We won’t play your chimp game.

    nk (875f57)

  135. @SPQR, so he did nothing right? Not even one? Partisanship aside.

    Comment by The Emperor — 11/1/2012 @ 5:37 pm

    The Emperor, the question, you must concede, seems a little silly to us. The point is not whether President Obama has done one thing right, but enough things right to warrant a second term. And whether Romney’s record warrants our giving him the chance at a first one.

    I’d argue Pres Obama didn’t even deserve a first one, given his record of both experience (very little relevant) and temperament (meaning, outrageous narcissism and many forms of professional immaturity), and has only confirmed that judgment many times over during his four years. It’s time for him to go.

    no one you know (55e8f9)

  136. The chimp is busy peeling bananas with its feet, now, noyk.

    nk (875f57)

  137. Noyk. Reading most of the comments on this thread one is forced to think that this president is such an evil man who did nothing but try to destroy America.

    The Emperor (9ae02a)

  138. The Salafi, didn’t want a trade, Steve, not with Benghazi, they wanted blood, and they judged Stevens
    as their version of a HVT.

    narciso (ee31f1)

  139. The Emperor, if only it were true that you were “forced to think” …

    SPQR (768505)

  140. The President is a worthless man who played golf instead of trying to help America.

    Hey, Chimp! You tell us what one good thing he did (besides Michelle, leaving the world thinking that our space program was so advanced that we had captured a Klingon).

    nk (875f57)


    nk (875f57)

  142. The chimp is busy peeling bananas with its feet, now, noyk.
    Comment by nk – 11/1/2012 @ 5:52 pm

    was about to say that after all this time it’s still a bit annoying how consistently good-faith comments get ignored by The Emperor, even after a good amount of time has elasped. But he/she pleasantly surprised me just now.

    no one you know (55e8f9)

  143. 0bama will lose because he deserves to lose. A record of failure, incompetence and dereliction of duty. He is not up to the task. Four more years of his administration would compound the disaster.

    Colonel Haiku (c338f0)

  144. Nk is off his meds again. He now talks to monkeys.

    The Emperor (9ae02a)

  145. Noyk. Reading most of the comments on this thread one is forced to think that this president is such an evil man who did nothing but try to destroy America.

    Comment by The Emperor — 11/1/2012 @ 5:55 pm

    The Emperor,

    There was an early ad, I think by a PAC, which listed all the economic and foreign-relations destruction that had happened under Pres Obama and asked the question,

    “What would look different if he were trying on purpose to destroy America’s economic and foreign-relations standing in the world?”

    IOW it doesn’t matter whether he’s an incompetent, lazy narcissist who likes to keep a six-hour-a -day schedule (really, go look up his daily schedules), and to golf and party more than to do his duty, or a socialist truly out to “fundamentally transform the United States of Amercia” (a statement of his that we really should have paid more attention to before he was elected).

    The damage is done. And he needs to go.

    no one you know (55e8f9)

  146. It’s a spammer, noyk. More than one person. It came here, in 2008, as love08, pretending to be a woman. It changed names and identities in following election. I think it is on its third persoanality, now. Ignore it, insult it, don’t be fooled.

    nk (875f57)

  147. Hey, Chimp. Tell us what one thing Obama did good.

    Watch, noyk, there will be no response. The Chimp is only looking to spam the thread.

    nk (875f57)

  148. On his meds or off, nk makes more sense than you and kicks your pathetic tail, The Emperor.

    SPQR (818509)

  149. Should be banned but it’s hard, it uses proxies. Akismet?

    nk (875f57)

  150. Internal polling tonite from R&R has them up by 1 in WI and gaining. Up in OH, PA and even in MI.

    I’m feeling 350 is even odds.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  151. @noyk. Is there anything you think Obama did right in his 4 year presidency? Just one?

    The Emperor (9ae02a)

  152. 158. Did not get his face slapped by Mrs. Sarkozy. Mooch woulda put him in Walter Reed.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  153. I have one!

    He beat George Bush in the media-generated, hurricane-concern derby.

    Is there a prize?

    Ag80 (b2c81f)

  154. Actually, I am back on my meds. My surgeons cleared me for ibuprofen, and I am taking my B1, folic acid, B12, and multivamin, whenever I remember. Off the post-op junk (but what beautiful dreams).

    nk (875f57)

  155. 6He is not up to the task.

    ‘Nuff said.

    Dustin (73fead)

  156. There are few things more frustrating than having your computer freezing up, then crashing in the middle of an online discussion On the (ancient and slow) laptop now; pls forgive typos.

    It’s a spammer, noyk. More than one person. It came here, in 2008, as love08, pretending to be a woman. It changed names and identities in following election. I think it is on its third persoanality, now. Ignore it, insult it, don’t be fooled.

    Comment by nk — 11/1/2012 @ 6:13 pm

    nk, ‘

    that’s news to me — I thought love2008 went right to The Emperor and was usually reticent about giving his/her gender. ANyway if it is more than one person, all its iterations at least appear to use some of the same “tells” (no Emperor, I’m not going to say what they are because it was useful to know on the Sockpuppet Friday and other threads which ones were you).

    Which reminds me just BTW – whatever happened to that tradition? I miss that. Snarking on the Narcissist in Chief sure was fun.

    no one you know (55e8f9)

  157. “Today’s Reasons Obama Should and/or Will Lose”

    I’d give my reasons for why he should lose, but I don’t really have time to write a novel length essay this evening.

    As to whether he will lose…I haven’t a clue.

    Dave Surls (46b08c)

  158. OWsnn6 sapjzqysgrwr, [url=]lffdiynalxsh[/url], [link=]beowovtdrjkk[/link],

    holzfvcspy (96887b)

  159. @noyk. Is there anything you think Obama did right in his 4 year presidency? Just one?

    Comment by The Emperor — 11/1/2012 @ 6:19 pm

    Well, it appears nk was correct; you didn’t answer. Why don’t you answerhis question first, The Emperor, and then I’ll answer yours.

    no one you know (55e8f9)

  160. Off the post-op junk (but what beautiful dreams).

    Comment by nk — 11/1/2012 @ 6:24 pm

    Not trying to pry but didn’t know you had surgery. Are you feeling better?

    no one you know (55e8f9)

  161. …one is forced to think that this president is such an evil man who did nothing but try to destroy America.
    Comment by The Emperor — 11/1/2012 @ 5:55 pm

    It depends on what your definition of “destroy” is.
    In one way his performance is exactly as he advertised it, America needed a fundamental transformation, it’s Constitution was inadequate, it was racist, an oppressor domestically and in foreign affairs, individuals within the nation hoard wealth and as a nation hoard the wealth of the world.
    To transform America into what it should be the standard of living should become more like the rest of the world, the rich should have at least a hunk of their riches taken away, America should become “just another one of many nations” on the world stage, etc.
    For all who listened carefully and knew what he was about, he has not been working on destroying America, he has been working on transforming it, just as he said.
    All who believed his “malarkey” about post-partisan politics and a post-racial America and fiscal responsibility, well, they didn’t get quite what they expected. And this group is bigger than the group that got the transformation they wanted. Bill Ayers may need to go back to thinking about bombs after all.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  162. Obama will lose this time because in 2008, with EVERYTHING going for him (newness, ability to inspire, first black president, Bush’s economy, lousy opponent), he only garnered 52.9% of the vote.

    Romney is much better than McCain, and Obama can’t inspire people with the record he has. Hence the smear campaign.

    norcal (c3fbf8)

  163. 157…my pick 9 days ago was R 362. Hoping I called it too low.. as far as choom’s right things go, he did many thing squite well in the eyes of the mullahs, soros, the euroweenies and the Nobel Prize committee. Success in weakening this country in a plethora of ways. If he were just an incompetent affirmative action dipwad, the law of averages would show some successes with the way he pissed away trillions of dollars. People like lovey and sleepy remind of the idiots in those cults who end up doing mass suicide.

    calypso louis farrakhan (f00049)

  164. Heh, With this, how will Libs decide whether to laugh, crow, or bang their heads on a wall? Neocon Wolfowitz defends Obama on Benghazi.

    (It doesn’t sound exactly like Paul has all the facts.)

    elissa (0149aa)

  165. Not trying to pry but didn’t know you had surgery. Are you feeling better?

    Comment by no one you know — 11/1/2012 @ 6:46 pm

    Only brain and eye, and I whine a lot about it. Ignore me.

    Missed you. Good to see you back. Carlitos, too, and I hope Pablo too.

    nk (875f57)

  166. @noyk. I am not aware asked any question. But I understand why my question will be difficult for you seeing how it makes nonsense of the whole Obama incompetency narrative. Obama did keep some of his promises. He didn’t fulfil all but he did keep some of them. Credit and blame should be given where and when due. If not this thread degenerates to a small group of partisans who see only evil and wish their candidates win. Even Romney agrees with the president on some of his policies. Be fair and balanced.

    The Emperor (5647ed)

  167. re: #169… YES! Everything breaking his way in 2008 and nothing but the bottom falling out for him now. Ask an 0bama supporter why they support him and dollars to donuts you’ll hear a lot of stammering and uh… uh… and more pregnant pauses.

    Colonel Haiku (745977)

  168. Comment by MD in Philly — 11/1/2012 @ 6:48 pm


    very well said. Not that it matters but I’ve wondered over the last four years how much of this Pres Obama would have been allowed to get away with were there not such hair-trigger cries of “racism!” from the media and his surrogates (and let’s fac it, himself too) whenever the president was questioned or pressed into accountability for unpopular decisions or statements.

    Andrew Breitbart was right that their slanders about racism were attempts to get those who disagreed with them to shut up and go away. Well, we didn’t, but they didn’t put away the race card. And now we have one of the most divided electorates, I think, in history (OK maybe 1865 was worse).

    Which is basically what happyfeet and several others correctly pointed out at the beginning of this thread as one of the worst legacies of this four years, which BTW should have been a bright and shining landmark for America: its first African American President.

    no one you know (55e8f9)

  169. Obama is the most successful SSI in the history of welfare. Tell us something better, chimp.

    nk (875f57)

  170. Over at there are several new posts about Benghazi, and links from there on things covered today by CBS and ABC, all look pretty condemning, mainly/especially with Sec. Clinton.

    Yes, I’m being lazy because I know many here are better informed than I and know stuff that I’d have to look up…what do you think the chances are that Sec. Clinton never even saw some stuff because her Muslim Brotherhood friendly staff had intercepted it or manipulated it? After all, that would just be some kind of work-place irresponsibility, like Ft. Hood was just some work-place violence.

    I wonder how long it will take Pres. Romney to undo all of the PC “love a jihadist” changes in federal government and military.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  171. If Obama loses just 5% of popularity, he loses. It seems to me he’s lost a lot more than that.

    Dustin (73fead)

  172. Only brain and eye, and I whine a lot about it. Ignore me.

    Missed you. Good to see you back. Carlitos, too, and I hope Pablo too.

    Comment by nk — 11/1/2012 @ 7:05 pm

    Been lurking but I’ve missed commenting. People usually say things I’m thinking better than I could say anyway 😉 .

    ‘Only’ brain and eye? (!!) sounds serious but sounds like you didn’t lose your sense of humor. Speaking of which:

    @noyk. I am not aware asked any question.
    Comment by The Emperor — 11/1/2012 @ 7:06 pm

    OK, I laughed. Come. ON. nk asked you a very direct question, more than once (his comment at 6:16 for one). Please answer it.

    no one you know (55e8f9)

  173. From the horse’s ass own mouth a few days ago at a campaign event, he insisted that he kept ALL his promises and commitments from 2008. What he has going for him is a compliant media that runs interference and ignores covering most anything detrimental to his election chances and millions of brain dead/intellectually bankrupt Obamabots who claim everyone who doesn’t want to figuratively fellate the precious chosen one is racist. And several idiots on this site who want urkel in a literal biblical sense.

    calypso louis farrakhan (aff299)

  174. America: its first African American President.

    My daughter was six when she heard that term. She did not know race. She called black people “dark people”, the way she, a Spartan karyatid, was darker than her northern European descended classmates. We talked. We agreed that Obama is the President of America — an American President.

    nk (875f57)

  175. Even if there is nothing to it, I think there will always be an undercurrent of concern and suspicion about Huma’s influence on Hillary, just as there will always be suspicion about Iranian born Valerie Jarrett’s influence on both of the Obamas when it comes to Muslim and mid-East issues.

    elissa (0149aa)

  176. noik-
    first, I think nk has had a tougher time of it than he lets on, his “whining” is more like minimizing, if you ask me (but no one did, I know, nk)
    second, I think the cry of racism was often used by some to insulate the one from criticism, but there is so much obvious to point at that has nothing to do with race that such an excuse is so disingenuous I haven’t even heard it much recently, especially as various African-American pastors have come out to say that Obama doesn’t value any form of Christianity that they’re familiar with.

    I do think though there will be some who play the race card and say he wasn’t re-elected because of race and some who unfortunately will believe it, though I don’t know if the current events will be the reason or just an opportunity to express biases already believed.

    But maybe Benghazi will be the final straw in spite of their working.

    One article talks about documents found lying about weeks after the attack. They’re not even very good at doing a cover-up without the media doing most of the work for them.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  177. noyk,

    Edward Abbey, safe,, bent my mind when young.

    My two favorite quotes:

    I do not need identification, I know who I am.

    If a man does not appreciate what he has, he should have nothing at all.

    nk (875f57)

  178. Some days I feel bad about how personally annoyed I get about this president. I really did try to give him a chance when he first got elected, in spite of our huge differences on abortion and a few other big topics.

    But having had my entire party called racist for the last at least five yeras, just for not supporting his policies, watching him play and party and accept accolades he doesn’t deserve (no one can say what in the world he did to earn the Nobel) and openly trash everyone who doesn’t agree with him in a way no other president has EVER been recorded doing, has really made me slowly but surely very out of patience with this man.

    He seems to think he’s an emperor, openly expresses wishes he were a dictator like in China so he wouldn’t have to take guff from people, acts (helped along by his partners like Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid) like he’s beyond accountability and questions, and like we taxpayers exist to serve them [“this nation. Me”] instead of the other way around.

    And for pointing this fact out, we get called racist AGAIN. It’s been very hard to keep from being, well, angry at what’s basically been a joke of a presidential term, and being blamed for telling the truth about it.

    no one you know (55e8f9)

  179. And several idiots on this site who want urkel in a literal biblical sense.

    Comment by calypso louis farrakhan — 11/1/2012 @ 7:17 pm


    no one you know (55e8f9)

  180. Comment by calypso louis farrakhan — 11/1/2012 @ 7:17 pm
    I heard that and commented on it elsewhere as well, calypso. Not content to be just a little over the top he went for the whole thing. he didn’t keep his commitment to the L to close Gitmo, didn’t keep his promise to the R to cut the deficit, for starters.

    From narciso’s link:
    Once a mob began attacking the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, on the night of Sept. 11, officials in Washington, D.C., watched with alarm.

    Reading the rest of the article, for anyone who has read anything there is just more confusion and contradiction in the story. Maybe they will change their name to National Propaganda Radio after they lose fed funds.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  181. But maybe Benghazi will be the final straw in spite of their working.

    One article talks about documents found lying about weeks after the attack. They’re not even very good at doing a cover-up without the media doing most of the work for them.

    Comment by MD in Philly — 11/1/2012 @ 7:22 pm

    I hope so,MD. It’s the first thing in recent memory that the media has seemed at all to take seriously (and not even some of them then: yes I’m looking at you, Matthews). Four dead Americans, the first ambassador killed ever IIUC, and a cover up that is looking worse by the day.

    no one you know (55e8f9)

  182. You’re right, Dustin… 5%. And who in their right mind does not think that 0bama has lost at least 5% of his support?

    Colonel Haiku (745977)

  183. NOYK@7:27–I believe that a great many citizens of this country feel exactly as you described and will act on those feelings during early voting and next Tuesday. These are not statements many people feel comfortable sharing with a NYT reporter or with a pollster. But in the privacy of the voting booth the truth will be told.

    elissa (0149aa)

  184. no English muffin
    for they colonized Kenya
    0bama is toast

    Colonel Haiku (745977)

  185. Funny, this is the same publication that about a month ago;

    narciso (ee31f1)

  186. Comment by nk — 11/1/2012 @ 7:26 pm

    thanks for that very interesting link; had never heard of Edward Abbey. After reading there about his writing style and his own [very cogent and thought provoking] thoughts about it, I think, since you admire him, I might have a little better insight into the way you express yourself here. 😉

    Glad to see you back BTW. Had missed your regular contributions when you took a break some time back.

    no one you know (55e8f9)

  187. Comment by elissa — 11/1/2012 @ 7:35 pm

    I hope so, elissa. All I know is I can’t wait for Tuesday night. :)

    no one you know (55e8f9)

  188. struts to podium
    teh Emperor has no clothes
    all hail 0bama

    Colonel Haiku (745977)

  189. hey there democrats
    this will be f*ckin’ you get
    for f*ckin’ you got

    Colonel Haiku (745977)

  190. How did I put it in another thread? Cowboy, hippie, farmboy? Abbey, I believe, invented monkey-wrenching as a term for eco-terror.

    May I give you a song? Safe.

    nk (875f57)

  191. Heh. Colonel, you’re outdoing yourself today. BTW could not believe that story about “Hail Obama” today. Absolutely incredible. And no attempt from the NIC to tamp down the cult of personality. Of course – it’s only what’s due to him.

    no one you know (55e8f9)

  192. from Morris’s lips
    to teh Lord God’s own two ears
    Romney in LANDSLIDE

    Colonel Haiku (745977)

  193. it’s now 0bama0
    just show whatcha got Pol Pot
    and quit yer Stalin

    Colonel Haiku (745977)

  194. History is written by the victors. Let’s see what is written about Barry Soetoro Stanley Robinson.

    nk (875f57)

  195. This is sad, but my goodness don’t they even do ongoing background checks for security clearance and have medical practitioners keep an eye on these people for psychological health?

    elissa (0149aa)

  196. I wonder how long it will be after Obama leaves office that we find out he really WAS born in Kenya.

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  197. NOYK, so glad you’re back commenting.


    There certainly has been a severe lack of discretion within the ranks of the Secret Service, however, what struck me most was the lack of discretion not simply involving indiscretions with other women/hookers in other countries, but the overall lack of discretion in general.

    They spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss Prieto’s death or the investigation.

    Dana (292dcf)

  198. Comment by Dana — 11/1/2012 @ 8:19 pm

    Thanks, Dana. FTR, you’re one of the (several) people around here who I was talking about above (elissa’s another) — very frequently saying better, and first, just what I was thinking.

    Comment by elissa — 11/1/2012 @ 7:59 pm

    A terrible shame. Especially with the responsibilities the Secret Service has, you’d think they would have paid more attention to Mr. Prieto’s state of mind when he was in such a stressful situation.

    no one you know (55e8f9)

  199. “Edward Abbey bent my mind when young.”

    – nk

    Mine too! (I think Wendell Berry and Wallace Stegner are slowly bending it back, though…)

    The only books I remember my dad ever pushing me to read were “The Monkey Wrench Gang” and “Desert Solitaire.”

    Leviticus (17b7a5)

  200. Anyone want to play a game?

    Go to Drudge and click on the links to the problems left by Hurricane Sandy.

    Next, find the links blaming the problems on Obama.

    After that, do a google search on Katrina.

    Now, compare the links blaming W. for Katrina vs. the links blaming Obama for Sandy.

    It’s a fun game. Everyone is a winner.

    Except the poor people on Stanten Island or Atlantic City.

    At least they have the comfort that their problems were not the fault of the current President rather than a natural disaster.

    Stanten Island gets bonus points for blaming the Red Cross for the lack of reaction to their plight rather than the Federal Government.

    In case anyone thinks I’m trying to blame Obama for a disaster, I’m really not. I am just trying to point out the ignorant bias of the press.

    Ag80 (b2c81f)

  201. Heck of a job Fugate.

    Ag80 (b2c81f)

  202. NK

    “History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it”
    – Sir Winston Churchill

    Gazzer (5f8b88)

  203. Ag80,

    I am gobsmacked that Bloomberg wants to continue with the NY City Marathon this weekend considering Staten Island is the staging area. People are desperate for food and shelter and yet he says the show will go on. I’m sure somehow if one worked at it, they could connect this idiocy to GW. I just don’t have the time…

    Dana (292dcf)

  204. Dana:

    It’s all good. Obama is in charge.

    Ag80 (b2c81f)

  205. I feel bad for Staten Island but how can you be desperate for food after only a couple of days? We knew this was coming.

    Gazzer (5f8b88)

  206. Gazzer,

    I wondered about that, too. Here are some tweets pleading for help. Apparently, no Red Cross teams, no help on SI yet….

    Dana (292dcf)

  207. You picked a fine time to leave me Lucille
    with 4 hungry kids and a crop in the field

    pdbuttons (631b6d)

  208. From what I’ve read, the problem in Staten Island is there is no electricity or refrigeration, plus many homes remain flooded with dirty water. Some people are injured, many don’t have dry clothes, and there are reports of many more deaths. It’s hard to have a reliable source of stockpiled food in those conditions.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  209. List of things 0bama has done right:
    1. Broke his promise to close Guantanamo.
    2. Broke his promise to try KSM in a civilian court in NYC.
    3. Space policy (the actual policy, not the Moslem outreach nonsense).

    I’m sure there’s at least one or two more, but I can’t think of them at the moment.

    Oh, and Chimperor, SPQR gave you the first two the first time you asked; why did you keep asking?

    Milhouse (15b6fd)

  210. But the report about the school morgue with 60 bodies is apparently a rumor.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  211. When ur lost in the rain in Juartez
    and its Eastertime too And ur Gravity fails
    And negativity don’t pull you thru
    Don’t put on any airs when your down on Rue Morgue Avenue
    They got some hungry women there
    And they really make a mess ouuta you
    I wrote that..the buttondickbuttons part

    pdbuttons (631b6d)

  212. Yet another reason:

    Historically when recessions are widespread, it is the American economy that recovers from bad times first and leads the way out. When regions of the world have economic disasters (e.g. the Asian Tigers in the 90’s), it is the robustness of the US economy that prevents it from spreading.

    This happens largely because the US’s freewheeling capitalism is stronger and more dynamic than the managed economies elsewhere.

    And this is exactly the strength in America that Barack Obama wants to “fix”. He wants to turn us into another Germany or Canada, with armies of bureaucrats and legions of rules guiding the marketplace. He distrusts the invisible hand of competing self-interest that built everything we have.

    So, if we are to save the international economy, we have to be rid of the guy who is killing its engine of recovery. Barack Obama has got to go.

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  213. Someone should be selling ICE at all voting places. Imagine a truck with ICE written on the side. Would not hurt!!

    mg (31009b)

  214. Have you ever thought about including a little bit more than just your articles? I mean, what you say is important and everything. But just imagine if you added some great photos or video clips to give your posts more, “pop”! Your content is excellent but with pics and clips, this website could undeniably be one of the very best in its field. Good blog!

    equifax free credit report contact (8c2f40)

  215. My world view is pretty simple. I think this world is destined to go to hell in a hand basket by design. I think things are supposed to go to pot. So if Barack Obama wins, I won’t be upset. If Mitt Romney wins, I won’t be running through the streets cheering. I think, either way, it is all part of the design. The world is going down hill. Barack Obama re-elected just gets us down the slippery slope faster in my view. For others, it is Mitt Romney who does.

    God is sovereign and He is in charge and He will return. That is my hope and my ever present expectation.

    sleeeepy (b5f718)

  216. For some inexplicable reason sleeeeepy (above) is quoting from an Erick Erickson column of Nov. 2 without comment or attribution.

    elissa (fdd017)

  217. Sleazy is a thoughtless fool who believes we are all monolithic republicans. I was a democrat for the first twenty five years that I was eligible to vote. When Nancy Pelosi was selected for House Minority Leader in 2002 over Harold Ford, I switched to the Libertarian Party. After Bob Barr was nominated over Christine Smith, I decided that I wasn’t going to belong to a party that ran Republican retreads. So now I’m an Independent.
    If sleazy wants to see what’s happened to our country, here is a comment from a New York Times article regarding longterm unemployment from some pathetic soul named Alias:

    Long-term unemployment will remain a very major problem, for more than reasons of recession.
    As long as we view work the way we have been, unemployment, regardless of duration could not be solved. The simple reason is that there will always be disproportionately higher number of jobseekers to available jobs, much less necessary jobs. We, the general public, economists and politicians must come to grip with this reality.
    To me, a more desirable solution is to divide the amount of work among potential eligible workers, rather than hiring full time workers each time work becomes available. As far as possible, do not provide overtime. For the health and welfare of the society, having all jobseekers kept employed, rather than making them work harder and longer, must be the moto. Reconcile with an idea that instead of employing X number of workers for a given job on a five-day-40-hour-week schedule, employ X+y number of workers on a four-day-30-hour-week schedule, and so on. Thus allow all able-bodied people to work and also enjoy life more with slightly less money, since each employee will only be paid for 30 hours.
    By law, this could be mandated. Employers ought to have a collective responsibility to achieve “FULL-EMPLOYMENT.” Just like paying taxes, which also ought to be more progressive than now, once it is “a fact of life,” as ‘one-way’ street and ‘stop’ & ‘no parking’ signs, the public will accept it as a very good thing!

    I apologize for pasting the entire rant, but I find it disheartening that anyone would find this a viable solution to our structural unemployment problem.
    This is the equivalent of using more workers to dig ditches instead of machinery in order to employ more people, or in government worker parlance—make work jobs.
    Sleazy just doesn’t know it’s an idiot. It’s part of the everybody gets a trophy and science is based on consensus crowd.

    Mayor Marathon (721840)

  218. My comment above was a quote from Erick Erickson

    Just so I know what sort of people I’m arguing with.

    sleeeepy (b5f718)

  219. Chimp ignored my response because it put a lie to his basic claim.

    SPQR (ca3829)

  220. So @233 sleeepy posts isolated statements from the author of another website who (to the best of my knowledge) has no association with Patterico’s Pontfications. Sleeeeepy posts them without quotation marks and then signs his name as the commenter suggesting therefore that he is the sole author. Then when I challenge him he admits it @226, adds the link, and makes some nonsensical comeback as if he’s made a point. WTF??

    elissa (3f3e6e)

  221. elissa, another argument against marijuana legalization,isn’t he?

    SPQR (ca3829)

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