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10/24/2012

Welcome to the Romney/Ryan Google Hangout!

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 5:03 pm



This is a rally and fundraiser for Romney and Ryan, being held in Texas, with several excellent guests — including Dick Cheney, Rick Perry, and many others. I’m participating — I’m the screen at the bottom with the Patterico blog in the window.

We may get a chance to ask questions of some of the luminaries who will be speaking. So stay close, and if you have any questions, leave them in the comments! And enjoy!

UPDATE: Unclear whether Romney or Ryan will be speaking, contrary to my initial impression. This is a very fluid situation . . .

UPDATE x2: Well, the event is over, and it was not at all as advertised, but I still enjoyed it. It picked up whenever we had a chance to talk to people. It was an opportunity to talk to some regular folks about their political views, and we met some interesting people who I hope will come visit the blog. Antonio, I’m talking to you!

I apologize to anyone who came expecting to see Dick Cheney or Rick Perry, but I hope you enjoyed the talk as I did.

56 Responses to “Welcome to the Romney/Ryan Google Hangout!”

  1. We’re going live any second now.

    Patterico (8b3905)

  2. I’d ask Romney if he already knew about the Benghazi emails before the 3rd debate and, if so, if that played a role in why he decided not to press Obama on Libya.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  3. It makes me nervous that Rick Perry is speaking so close to the election. He doesn’t always make the sentences good.

    happyfeet (a397a0)


  4. I’d ask Romney if he already knew about the Benghazi emails before the 3rd debate and, if so, if that played a role in why he decided not to press Obama on Libya.

    Comment by DRJ — 10/24/2012 @ 5:11 pm

    He’s been running such a disciplined and stunningly competent campaign I really wouldn’t be surprised at this.

    Gotta say that though this election season has been frustrating (media bias etc), I’ve really changed my attitude toward Romney, I think starting when he picked Paul Ryan, and with just about everything I’ve seen from him and the campaign since then only sealing the deal.

    Before he was an “OK I guess he’ll be better at MATH than Pres Obama” and “I hope he’s pro-life enough”. I never knew his personal story, or his character before this season.

    I really like and admire the man now. I can’t wait to vote for him. And Ryan of course.

    no one you know (954688)

  5. I would ask them if they are going to sell off Fannie and Freddie and get government out of the mortgage guarantee business.

    Patricia (e1d89d)

  6. I would ask Mr Cheney, on a scale of 1 to complete and total douchenozzle, where would he place OBarcky.

    JD (8a1df4)

  7. Guess Romney isn’t showing up after all. This is a very fluid situation, obviously…

    Patterico (8b3905)

  8. I would ask if he plans on freeing GM from its federal government bondage.

    Colonel Haiku (385e8a)

  9. They will probably have a chance to talk to someone with the campaign, and you can ask the campaign people the same questions you would ask Romney.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  10. For instance, I’d like to ask a campaign person to comment on voter fraud, especially the Moran story.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  11. I’d also like to know if the Dallas GOP or Tea Party folks are looking into voter fraud in DFW.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  12. That was your question about small business, wasn’t it?

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  13. Biggest blogger in the world, Patterico’s!!

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  14. Yes, that was my question.

    An appropriate question from the biggest blogger in the world!

    Patterico (8b3905)

  15. According to Romney’s calendar at Politico, he was in Reno this morning and will be Cedar Rapids IA and Cincinnati OH tonight. I don’t see DFW on his schedule, unless it is a stopover.

    Ryan was in Cleveland OH this afternoon. Here’s the calendar for all the candidates today.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  16. Patterico LIVE!

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  17. If the candidates aren’t there, then I doubt there will be any Romney campaign people there. However, Cheney and Perry and their staffs should be able to answer some questions. In fact, they may be more forthright than Romney-Ryan people.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  18. You asked it. A good economy with a decent job market would be the most liberating thing for women.

    nk (875f57)

  19. Any idea of crowd size yet?

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  20. ___________________________________________

    I never knew his personal story, or his character before this season.

    My sense is that the inner aspects of the guy are pretty good, perhaps a variation of what I’ve picked up through the years about the core of someone like Ronald Reagan. I’m referring to the non-political facets of such people. Their inner decency and respect for stability and integrity.

    If folks like Bill Clinton or Barack Obama had such characteristics, and even if their ideology still ran counter to mine, I couldn’t easily cast off, disparage and disregard them.

    Mark (4de17c)

  21. Is Knox any relation to Neal Knox?

    nk (875f57)

  22. TOTUS speaks in Colorado …

    Smartest President we’ve ever had. Enslaved to a f’ing teleprompter.

    SPQR (768505)

  23. Well, we can chat while we’re waiting for something to happen.

    Patterico (8b3905)

  24. 22. Smartest President we’ve ever had. Enslaved to a f’ing teleprompter.

    Comment by SPQR — 10/24/2012 @ 5:48 pm

    Speaking of sheer intellectual firepower:

    In Ohio, Biden Talks About All the Ads Being Run ‘Here in Iowa’

    He’s only been campaigning in Ohio for three consecutive days.

    Steve57 (c8ac21)

  25. IMO Obama’s China gaffe in Colorado was even worse than Biden’s gaffe.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  26. I’m interested in why the Romney supporters are attending this event. Are they big political types, or is this something new? Do they like Romney-Ryan or are they anti-Obama?

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  27. For the record, that was not the Longhorn sign the moderator showed us.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  28. This is hilarious. So far, not what I expected.

    Patterico (8b3905)

  29. Why hilarious?

    JD (8a1df4)

  30. It’s comical watching Chris try to fill time.

    Patterico (8b3905)

  31. IMO Obama’s China gaffe in Colorado was even worse than Biden’s gaffe.

    I’m LOL at the following comment posted to the article you’ve linked:

    I’ll be darned…, we found one of the 7 missing states.

    Mark (4de17c)

  32. I like hearing real people talk about the issues that matter to them, in more than just soundbites.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  33. I suppose none of you have ever mistakenly thought you were in a different country or state than you actually were. Picky picky picky

    elissa (381c32)

  34. I routinely make that kind of mistake, Elissa. Just last week I said, here in Aukland, when I was in Cleveland.

    JD (8a1df4)

  35. I like hearing real people talk about the issues that matter to them, in more than just soundbites.

    I know, I like it too. The people are leaving too soon.

    Patterico (8b3905)

  36. elissa, it wasn’t long ago that those kinds of verbal gaffes were evidence that a GOP President was unfit for office.

    SPQR (768505)

  37. Are there any people who voted for Obama and are now supporting Romney?

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  38. JD and SPQR–I think a lot of Obama’s and Biden’s geography issues have to do with the fact they are just loaded into planes and copters and limos on the taxpayer’s dime and then deposited at various venues to give the basic stump speech. Those of us who have to, you know, gas up the car, use mapquest to find the most economical route, or purchase our own plane tickets generally know where we are.

    elissa (381c32)

  39. Giants are crushing the Tigers.

    elissa (381c32)

  40. Antonio is cool.

    Mark (4de17c)

  41. It’s interesting how some people, like Antonio, seem to have an innate amount of common sense.

    Mark (4de17c)

  42. elissa, granted but Obama has a history of reading off the teleprompter no matter how stupid the line that his speech writer has supplied.

    Biden is a dementia patient masquerading as our Vice President.

    SPQR (768505)

  43. I love Antonio.

    Patterico (8b3905)

  44. Sandoval is a beast.

    JD (8a1df4)

  45. UPDATE x2: Well, the event is over, and it was not at all as advertised, but I still enjoyed it. It picked up whenever we had a chance to talk to people. It was an opportunity to talk to some regular folks about their political views, and we met some interesting people who I hope will come visit the blog. Antonio, I’m talking to you!

    I apologize to anyone who came expecting to see Dick Cheney or Rick Perry, but I hope you enjoyed the talk as I did.

    Patterico (8b3905)

  46. Giants are crushing the Tigers.

    Comment by elissa — 10/24/2012 @ 6:55 pm

    As I predicted in the election prediction thread! Of course it’s only one game but the Tigers had Verlander on the mound.

    Gerald A (f26857)

  47. Site now bookmarked. I enjoyed watching and listing to people with similar views as mines. (I don’t get to do that often)

    Antonio (3c3506)

  48. Hey Antonio! Welcome. It’s excellent to hear from you.

    Patterico (8b3905)

  49. 38. JD and SPQR–I think a lot of Obama’s and Biden’s geography issues have to do with the fact they are just loaded into planes and copters and limos on the taxpayer’s dime and then deposited at various venues to give the basic stump speech. Those of us who have to, you know, gas up the car, use mapquest to find the most economical route, or purchase our own plane tickets generally know where we are.

    Comment by elissa — 10/24/2012 @ 6:52 pm

    I don’t know about that. Geography has never been President 57 states’ strong point.

    Recall how he he tried to deliberately snub Britain by referring to the Falklands as the Malvinas while speaking at press conference at the Summit of the Americas in Colombia.

    Except he called them the Maldives. He was 8k miles off.

    I think Eastwood is right; Biden is the smart one. At least Biden gets his countries right.

    Steve57 (c8ac21)

  50. Go to 1:42:26 in the above video to hear from Antonio.

    Hope for the future of the country.

    Patterico (8b3905)

  51. Antonio is rather young too, so for someone like him to be philosophically well grounded at his age is not exactly common. That’s even more the case since (and his comments indicate he’s fully aware of this) much of the black community is devoutly liberal, devoutly Democrat.

    Mark (4de17c)

  52. Nice job on the call, Antonio.

    elissa (381c32)

  53. I was hoping for hot chicks. I got two ugly dudes. Damn.

    Rodney King's Spirit (9ce6d4)

  54. People usually say I’m naive, But I can only make a opinion based on my life experience and what I’ve researched so far. I’ll admit that there’s a lot I don’t know, but I’ll keep learning as time goes by.

    Antonio (3c3506)

  55. ______________________________________

    People usually say I’m naive

    Ha! That’s hilarious and ironic, because the people who claim that are themselves very likely to be quite deluded, foolish and simpleminded about human nature — their own and others — in all its contradictions and complexity.

    Investors.com, March 2012:

    Not exactly shocking news for those exposed to them for years, but the respected Pew Research Center has determined that political liberals are far less tolerant of opposing views than regular Americans.

    In a new study, the Pew Center for the Internet and American Life Project confirmed what most intelligent Americans had long sensed. That is, whenever they are challenged or confronted on the hollow falsity of their orthodoxy — such as, say, uniting diverse Americans — liberals tend to respond defensively with anger, even trying to shut off or silence critics.

    The new research found that instead of engaging in civil discourse or debate, fully 16% of liberals admitted to blocking, unfriending or overtly hiding someone on a social networking site because that person expressed views they disagreed with. That’s double the percentage of conservatives and more than twice the percentage of political moderates who behaved like that.

    The proportion jumps even higher when someone on a social site disagrees with a liberal’s post. Only 1% of moderates would block or shut out someone who dared to disagree with them, compared to 11% of liberals, whose rate was nearly three times that of conservatives.

    nytimes.com, Nicholas Kristof, December 2008:

    This holiday season is a time to examine who’s been naughty and who’s been nice, but I’m unhappy with my findings. The problem is this: We liberals are personally stingy.

    Liberals show tremendous compassion in pushing for generous government spending to help the neediest people at home and abroad. Yet when it comes to individual contributions to charitable causes, liberals are cheapskates.

    Arthur Brooks, the author of a book on donors to charity, “Who Really Cares,” cites data that households headed by conservatives give 30 percent more to charity than households headed by liberals. A study by Google found an even greater disproportion: average annual contributions reported by conservatives were almost double those of liberals.

    Other research has reached similar conclusions. The “generosity index” from the Catalogue for Philanthropy typically finds that red states are the most likely to give to nonprofits, while Northeastern states are least likely to do so.

    “When I started doing research on charity,” Mr. Brooks wrote, “I expected to find that political liberals — who, I believed, genuinely cared more about others than conservatives did — would turn out to be the most privately charitable people. So when my early findings led me to the opposite conclusion, I assumed I had made some sort of technical error. I re-ran analyses. I got new data. Nothing worked. In the end, I had no option but to change my views.”

    According to Google’s figures, if donations to all religious organizations are excluded, liberals give slightly more to charity than conservatives do. But Mr. Brooks says that if measuring by the percentage of income given, conservatives are more generous than liberals even to secular causes.

    Conservatives also appear to be more generous than liberals in nonfinancial ways. People in red states are considerably more likely to volunteer for good causes, and conservatives give blood more often. If liberals and moderates gave blood as often as conservatives, Mr. Brooks said, the American blood supply would increase by 45 percent.

    Dailycaller.com, March 2011:

    Social scientists usually measure traditional racism against African Americans by looking at the survey responses of white Americans only. Among whites in the latest General Social Survey (2008) [conducted by the National Opinion Research Center at the University of Chicago], only 4.5% of small-government advocates express the view that “most Blacks/African-Americans have less in-born ability to learn,” compared to 12.3% of those who favor bigger government or take a middle position expressing this racist view.

    [A]mong whites, Republican advocates of smaller government are even less racist (1.3% believing that blacks have less in-born ability) than the rest of the general public (11.3% expressing racist views). Thus, in 2008 Republicans who believe that the government in Washington does too much have 10 times higher odds of not expressing racist views on the in-born ability question than the rest of the population (79-to-1 odds v. 7.9-to-1 odds).

    In 2008, only 5.4% of white conservative Republicans expressed racist views on the in-born ability question, compared to 10.3% of the rest of the white population. [T]his same pattern holds for white Democrats compared to white Republicans: in 2008 12.3% of white Democrats in the U.S. believed that African Americans were born with less ability, compared to only 6.6% of white Republicans.

    In sixteen surveys from 1977 through 2008, overall white Republicans were significantly less racist on the in-born ability question than white Democrats (13.3% to 17.3%), and white conservative Republicans were significantly less racist than other white Americans (11.7% to 14.7%)…

    [O]verall white Democrats were significantly more likely to support segregated neighborhoods than white Republicans (30.4% to 26.3%).

    Mark (4de17c)


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