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9/27/2012

Just a Reminder

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 8:00 am



Our economy still sucks.

A key measure of the economy, especially in manufacturing, just had the bottom fall out. Orders for durable goods dropped 13.2% in August, the worst decrease in almost four years, and a large signal that the American economy is diving into a recession.

Miserable failure.

89 Responses to “Just a Reminder”

  1. Thanks, George W. Bush.

    P. Tillman (fcbc8b)

  2. Just a reminder, there are other things ^^^ that still suck.

    Icy (735d7a)

  3. Four years later, the losers still blame Bush.

    SPQR (32142d)

  4. Maybe Tillman was being nuanced and ironic?

    ukuleledave (c59551)

  5. This is the slurpiness of Recovery. Q2 downgraded to 1.25%, below stall speed. US is uncoupled from World Depression?

    Market today pauses to take in the full measure of the suck before foundering.

    One leetle prob having convinced investors they’re stuck with BootBlack forty days ahead of Nov. 6.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  6. Since we are hanging economic numbers around the One’s neck, care to enlighten us as to the performance of the DJIA since Jan 2009? Just sayin’ — trying to have it both ways reeks of political hackery

    Wes (f41142)

  7. Wes thinks the economy is good.

    Gas prices, food prices, home resale values, unemployment rates, credit card interest rates, personal debt, food stamp enrollment, disability claims, bankruptcy filings — all good.

    Oh wait, the stock market is up? Okay, we’re all right, then.

    Icy (735d7a)

  8. 6. “reeks of hackery”

    Note that mutual fund participation has been to exit the Market to the tune of $200 Billion over the last couple of years. The retail investor is out of the market, neither winning nor losing.

    Similarly we are seeing historic lows in VIX, low volumes of trading. The volume following QE3 announcement aside, up volume is negligible for the last couple of years, large days are the down days invariably.

    Next, when adjusted for declining USD values on FX markets, the Market is flat as a pancake. No one is making money they are simply not losing it as rapidly as investing in bonds.

    One thing is certain Wes, you’ve no more money than I.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  9. It is not a good idea to factor in the stock market as either a leading or trailing economic indicator. It is based on people’s expectations of what other people might or might not do in the future. Reading the entrails of one of the Sacred Geese of Rome will give information just as good and you can eat the goose!

    Michael M. Keohane (240202)

  10. I remember the good ol’ days of 2008 when four dollar a gallon gasoline was Bush’s fault.

    According to the Obama Cultists, it still is !

    Elephant Stone (65d289)

  11. “Just sayin’ — trying to have it both ways reeks of political hackery”

    Wes – Can you spend the DJIA if you don’t have savings or a job? Pointing to the performance of the DJIA as a measure of Obama’s economic policy success smacks of pure hackery.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  12. 9. Excellent point. HFT programs are bidding up stocks for their investment banks who are making money.

    Daytraders are at a distinct disadvantage.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  13. Mutual fund exit confirmed:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-09-27/historic-anti-equity-revulsion-fidelity-now-manages-more-bonds-and-money-markets-sto

    More good news, Spain is still putting off a bailout, instead borrowing 3 Billion euros from SS. They will run out of cash B4 Nov.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  14. Wes,

    How do you feel about the capital gains tax rates changing in a few months ?

    Elephant Stone (65d289)

  15. 13. Note at the link, the large volume trading day of Ben’s announcment was actually outflow.

    Tho up at the moment everything points down near term.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  16. “Just sayin’ — trying to have it both ways reeks of political hackery”

    Wes knows about political hackery.

    JD (7e251a)

  17. And just in case you think this is only about “blaming” Bush for our current economic mess, here’s a fellow Conservative commentator who thinks the problem is that Romney’s policies ARE a third GWB term:

    “Why Romney Is Losing”
    “The GOP nominee has doubled down on the policies of a failed presidency.”

    “The fact that both the recession and the financial crisis began under Bush has complicated Romney’s economic case against Obama. Obama can always argue that whatever problems remain are the lingering aftershocks of the Bush downturn, and that he has led America out of the recession.

    There was a risk for Obama that this strategy would fail. By blaming Bush, the president might look like he is evading responsibility. Many voters like Harry Truman’s dictum “the buck stops here.” Pointing out that the recession was over could have irritated voters who are still unemployed and struggling in an economy that is barely growing.

    Yet in June, Gallup found that 68 percent of the American people still blamed Bush for the country’s economic problems while only 52 percent blamed Obama. That poll was taken before Bill Clinton reminded appeared at the Democratic National Convention to remind them who was president the last time the economy was booming. Clinton notably appears in the Obama economy-themed campaign ads, saying the electorate should stick with the incumbent’s plans.

    The Clinton-Bush contrast hurts Romney when making arguments for his own policy proposals. Romney is campaigning on tax cuts. But Clinton raised taxes before the 1990s economic expansion, while Bush cut them before the 2007 recession.”

    “Bush is a problem for Romney on foreign policy as well. At a time when questions should naturally be raised about Obama’s Libya intervention and policy of engaging the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, Romney is limited to hawkish chest-beating and Bush-era sloganeering.”

    “If Romney does go down to defeat, it won’t be his fault entirely. Obama will have once again beaten George W. Bush. Romney’s biggest campaign mishap may not have been any of the famous gaffes, but rather his failure to distance himself from Bush.”

    “W. James Antle III is editor of the Daily Caller News Foundation and a contributing editor to The American Conservative. Follow him on Twitter.”

    You folks are even out of touch with YOUR OWN party…LOL…enjoy living in the wilderness.

    P. Tillman (fcbc8b)

  18. Didn’t Michelle look fantastic on the View! And to think that she’ll have to celebrate her wedding anniversary alone cuz B will out that night at a debate or something! Shameful. :(

    Airplane windows! Still manipulating taxes! Romney hates 47% of Americans!!

    [The preceding brought to you by ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, NYT, LAT…]

    in_awe (7c859a)

  19. The major hit on manufacturing was a sharp decrease in aircraft orders; but, there are some underlying factors that can be positive for business growth – or there is just some maintenance of business inventories that might have been drained during Q1&2.
    Either way, the future does not look positive (See http://www.aei-ideas.org/2012/09/gdp-collapse-puts-u-s-economy-into-recession-red-zone/).

    AD-Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! (b8ab92)

  20. When Campbell Soup can’t make money in their primary product line, you have a problem, although
    “Betamax’ Brown probably isn’t helping.

    narciso (ee31f1)

  21. …failure to distance himself from Bush...”

    A connection that was only made by a media that must warp everything it deals with in a manner to reflect positively on Teh Won, and negatively against his opponent –
    an opponent that has never had a connection (politically) with GWB.
    Romney’s problem is that the media will not allow Teh Won to run against his actual opponent, who everyone knows, would clean Barry’s clock.

    AD-Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! (b8ab92)

  22. Yes, and the Congress cut capital gains taxes, which really spurred on the recovery, plus Obama is threatening the regime that best reflected the hoped for aspirations of the Arab Spring, honestly
    do facts matter anymore.

    narciso (ee31f1)

  23. So – in the unfortunate event that 0bama’s re-elected – he says he’ll produce more American-made energy, create a million new jobs in the manufacturing sector, and turn his laser-like focus to reducing the deficit.

    Of course, teh sh*theel has had nearly an entire term to do all of these things and done none of them. Somehow I doubt that this would make a bit of difference to the mouth-breathing crumbs who support him.

    He gives them free phones, that’s enough to win their devotion.

    Colonel Haiku (9c2994)

  24. “So – in the unfortunate event that 0bama’s re-elected – he says he’ll produce more American-made energy, create a million new jobs in the manufacturing sector, and turn his laser-like focus to reducing the deficit.”

    Colonel – He’s added more families per month to food stamps than jobs have been created per month during his magnificent reign. Since he has not announced any plans to do anything differently, why wouldn’t people just expect more of the same?

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  25. Plus, lest anyone forget, just a reminder,

    TAXMAGEDDON!!!!!!!!!11ty!!!1!!11!!!!1!!!!!

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  26. You guys are so cynical.

    As Stephanie Cutter wisely says, it’s not about what has happened in the past 4 years, it’s about what will happen in the next 4 years.

    The LA Times can’t show us the videotape of Obama at Khalidi’s party, because that is something that happened in the past. Same thing with Obama’s college records—that’s in the past.

    We need to look “Forward.”

    Elephant Stone (65d289)

  27. Please try to avoid ad hom, I ignore any comment which contains it. I’m strongly opposed to increased cap gains taxes but it won’t be the end of the world if they go up. Nor did I say the economy is “good”. My main point is that using economic indicators to critique the President is at best preaching to the choir, since a massive economy like America’s has plenty of data both sides can pick red meat from.

    Wes (f41142)

  28. Wes was just driving by.

    Icy (735d7a)

  29. Tillman,

    Please explain how you rescue an economy by sending out hordes of bureaucrats and lawyers to badger and bedevil businessmen, all the while raising taxes and regulations.

    Blaming Bush for Obama’s 4 years of economic insanity doesn’t cut it.

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  30. Looking around today to see how the MSM has reported this. If it was a Republican in office, they’d have 100-point headlines. But today, neither the NY Times, the Washington Post nor the LA Times has this story above the fold. Instead they run stories about how Romney is bad for kittens.

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  31. So, Wes, what indicators favor Obama? I mean you have so many…

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  32. Wes,

    There isn’t any “red meat” for you Obama Zombies to cherry-pick and hold up as examples of a good economy. If Obama even believed there were good economic numbers, he’s want to talk about it. Instead, he spends all his time talking about free birth control, roads and bridges, Jay-Z & Beyonce, and the NFL referees strike.
    And his dingbat spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter wouldnt’ be saying that women voters don’t care about the past 4 years, if the record was good.

    By the way, the manufacturing of durable goods decreased a whopping 13% in August.

    To interpret that for Democrats—that’s not very good.

    By the way, I’m just curious…why do you personally believe that an increase in the capital gains tax rate would not be helpful to the economy ? I’ll look forward to your response. Thank you, Sir.

    Elephant Stone (65d289)

  33. Please try to avoid ad hom,

    Said without a hint of irony, after leading with same.

    JD (7e251a)

  34. Remember when praising a good Dow Jones ave meant that you favored the fat cats of Wall Street and were out of touch with Main Street?

    Neither does the left.

    kinlaw (2fb87c)

  35. Speaking only for myself, I would be deeply wounded to find out that Wes ignored any comments at this site given the value he has provided over time.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  36. @Wes
    The real DJIA as adjusted for inflation is back where it was in 1963. That’s the real yet hidden cost of QE1, QE2, and now QE3. It’s suck, more suck, and this turd is circling the bowl pretty fast now.

    jack (ff1ca8)

  37. “Please explain how you rescue an economy by sending out hordes of bureaucrats and lawyers to badger and bedevil businessmen,”

    No need to explain something that hasn’t happened.

    “…all the while raising taxes and regulations.”

    No need to explain something that hasn’t happened.

    And I challenge you to prove otherwise.

    P. Tillman (fcbc8b)

  38. Apparently Mr. Axeldouche is a little touchy about the Obama economy and especially does not like any reminders of the joblessness and devastation to be mentioned and discussed on blogs. How else to explain the troll twofer which has joined this thread with their laser-like focus on good ol’ GWB?

    elissa (e33370)

  39. Shorter illman – prove I am a lying twatwaffle!!!!! Simp

    JD (7e251a)

  40. Soon after taking office the president signed a bill that increased the federal excise tax on tobacco products. That tax hike went into effect in 2009.

    Then Obama signed the health care law, formally known as the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act but often called ObamaCare. That law includes several tax increases, some of which have not yet gone into effect, though some are in place now.

    For example, individuals who use indoor tanning services started paying a 10 percent tax in 2010.

    — No need to explain.

    Icy (735d7a)

  41. Well, as long as we have enough money to fund the Obama phone give-away program, it’s all good.

    rochf (f3fbb0)

  42. 42….That’s it? That’s the evidence? Those policies are preventing Obama from “rescuing” the economy?

    40….”How else to explain the troll twofer which has joined this thread with their laser-like focus on good ol’ GWB?”

    Gee, can’t think of any other explanation…your imagination is sorely lacking. And your memory…you brought him up in another thread, rube.

    P. Tillman (fcbc8b)

  43. “Shorter illman – prove I am a lying ”

    Got it backwards, simp, I’m asking for evidence supporting claims that I believe are lies or distortions.

    P. Tillman (fcbc8b)

  44. “Apparently Mr. Axeldouche is a little touchy about the Obama economy and especially does not like any reminders of the joblessness and devastation to be mentioned and discussed on blogs. How else to explain the troll twofer which has joined this thread with their laser-like focus on good ol’ GWB?”

    Had to go back and read this a second time just to make sure I understood the implications.

    So, lemme get this straight. David Axelrod, Obama’s national campaign chairman and advisor, has sent ME here to this BACKWATER blog to remind you that George W. Bush was your elected president for 8 years before Obama????

    The mind boggles at the confusion and delusion inherent in this line of “thinking”.

    Little lower-case elissa, methinks you daydreamed (or are daydreaming) through much of your primary education.

    P. Tillman (fcbc8b)

  45. The only reason the DJIA is up is that interest rates on bonds and other debt are ZERO. The only place to get any return at all is in stocks, most in dividend-producing stocks that are paying 2-3%.

    In short, people are investing in stocks because otherwise they might as well put it under their mattress. Of course, it might be safer there.

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  46. I seem to remember a lot of noise about a “jobless recovery” that seemed actually to be a recovery, compared with lots of noise about whether or not “the recovery” is speeding up, slowing down, about “to go into another recession”, or whatever.

    O for a news service that could stand by the veracity of their stories even in cross examination under oath.

    Maybe that’s what all of the malpractice attorneys can do after either: 1) Malpractice reform as part of health care overhaul, or 2) elimination of personal liability when all docs become employees of the government.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  47. And I challenge you to prove otherwise.

    Sorry, I don’t try to prove things to people who are going “LALALALALALALA I CAN’T hear YOU”

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  48. Comment by Kevin M — 9/27/2012 @ 1:53 pm

    I wish my parents had enough “surplus” to float our mortgage. We could pay them 3% and do much better than our current mortgage, and they would do much better than a CD.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  49. Tillman, are you saying that Obama hasn’t increased regulations? These guys beg to differ:

    During the first three years of the Obama Administration, 106 new major federal regulations added more than $46 billion per year in new costs for Americans. This is almost four times the number—and more than five times the cost—of the major regulations issued by George W. Bush during his first three years.

    Italics mine.

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  50. 39. “I challenge you to prove otherwise.”

    FYI, Master Tillman, proving anything to the satisfaction of a drooling imbecile is what is known around here as “a fool’s errand”.

    While you may not be aware, the penalty incurred here at Rico’s for taking up such a challenge with any seriousness is a bare-assed paddling by one and all.

    The appropriate response hollered out at each turn “Thank you Sir, may I have another?”

    You really are not so cruel to goad one of these nice people into such an humiliation?

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  51. Comment by Kevin M — 9/27/2012 @ 1:53 pm

    In short, people are investing in stocks because otherwise they might as well put it under their mattress. Of course, it might be safer there

    From creditors, or maybe the government. But banks offer better protection from thieves or accidents, at least so long as they don’t go above the FDIC limit.

    That’s worth so much that in some places, I think in Africa, people PAY interest to the bank to safeguard their money. Rates go as high as 40% (I can’t find a reference right now)

    Even here there are checking accounts that have fees. Some people really mismanage them, partly because of lack of knowledge or guessing or hoping – and they’ve been hit by deposits that bounce.

    And then there’s prepaid debit cards.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  52. ==So, lemme get this straight. ==

    Ha ha ha ha ha. Snort. Pause for deep breath. Slaps knee. Haha Ha Haha. That particular mockable phrase is one of the favorite mockable phrases in all of trolldom. And it always precedes a strawman. You did not disappoint us, Tillman.

    elissa (e33370)

  53. 53. “that in some places, I think in Africa, people PAY interest to the bank to safeguard their money.”

    Indeed, even backwaters like Switzerland and Germany where notes two years and under are at negative yeilds.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  54. Yields*, that one always jobs me.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  55. Via zerohedge, as we today plumb the lowest mortgage rates ever, created in early 50’s, “retail-to-wholesale mortgage spreads are at record highs”.

    Odd, little known fact, prolly means nothing.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  56. That Omamba is like a demigod, a comeback thru recession & dead Ambassador all while dragging Uncle Bernie. Who’d a thunk?

    http://nicedeb.wordpress.com/2012/09/27/poll-watch-mitt-romneys-leading-in-swing-states/

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  57. So, lemme get this straight.

    That is usually a sign that they are about to be a douchenozzle.

    JD (7e251a)

  58. 58. At link one thing ’80 race Carter/Reagan turnout “relatively light” at 53%. In ’96 really light at 49% for Slick/Dole/Perot.

    Obviously, Urkel’s team is out to depress turnout. Yes they’ll lose Dhimmi turnout in Red and Blue states but they must hope their loyalists are wary enough to show in Purple states.

    Seems to me their downside way exceeds upside. I haven’t watched First Dude in two years I hate him so.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  59. OH going Dhimmi really, really big:

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/09/25/Ohio-MSM-Pushes-Faulty-Polls-to-Advance-Obama-Narrative

    Cleveland must be doing better than I supposed.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  60. P.Tillman still can’t write an honest comment. Not a single one.

    Obama raises taxes on businesses, with Obamacare regulations that increase the cost of compliance to business, and P.Tillman challenges us to prove it?

    Evidently, on the planet where P. Tillman lives, there are no cable news channels, no internet news aggregation websites and no newspapers – because everyone on Earth heard about it.

    Meanwhile, the Obama administration has explicitly been following policies intended to raise the cost of energy.

    Couple that with other increase regulatory burdens pushed by the Obama administration, and its a very hostile business environment. Obama gave up trying to improve the US economy in early 2009 and has spent no time nor political capital in any effort since.

    The bottom line is that Obama remains the greatest failure as a President in modern times. The bad and worsening economy today is his responsibility – and his failure is manifest in the explicit expections Obama himself set in February 2009.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  61. Obumbles is a SCOAMF.

    that is all.

    redc1c4 (403dff)

  62. Comment by Icy — 9/27/2012 @ 1:18 pm

    In the world of Progressives, Icy, those are NOT taxes, they are User Fees!

    AD-Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! (b8ab92)

  63. P. Tillman,

    Bro, elissa would run circles around you. That’s commentary about her debating skills, as well as commentary about your inherently circular logic.

    Elephant Stone (65d289)

  64. The (Carlos Slim) Times, had a typically thumbsucking piece by Jackie Calmes, saying the deficit was rising for reasons beyond Obama’s control

    narciso (ee31f1)

  65. Its unbelievable, narciso, evidently Obama is not responsible for anything at all.

    What a complete loser of an Empty Suit(tm) he has turned out to be. Pathetic.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  66. Tillman posts 5 times between 10:00 and 1:42, four of them between 1:01 and 1:42.

    Gets his ass handed to him by several posters by 2:09, then disappears.

    Gutless mendouchous twatwaffle….

    JD, sorry for the spelling….I condemn myself.

    reff (4dcda2)

  67. I stand corrected….6 times between 8:09 and 1:42…so he was here for 5 1/2 hours…then..

    Casper the friendly ghost

    reff (4dcda2)

  68. Wes-Have you checked the price of arugula?

    mg (44de53)

  69. I stand corrected….6 times between 8:09 and 1:42…so he was here for 5 1/2 hours…then..

    Casper the friendly ghost

    Comment by reff — 9/27/2012 @ 5:04 pm

    Hey, don’t go dragging my name into this! 😉

    Ghost (6f9de7)

  70. Waaay off topic, but bad things happening in free speech land tonight. Go to my blog and keep scrolling.

    Aaron "Worthing" Walker (23789b)

  71. Meanwhile, the Obama administration is conducting more secret surveillance of Americans than the Bush administration ever did.

    Moral imperative to elect Obama to replace Bush? Laughable as ever single other claim about Obama.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  72. There’s not much you can do about it but, you know, a troll calling itslef P. Tillman is actually disgusting.

    I’m sure he or she and its friends think it is the hilarity, though.

    That’s pretty much what we’re up against.

    Ag80 (b2c81f)

  73. sorry, itself,

    Ag80 (b2c81f)

  74. SPQR,

    How can you be so cynical ?
    Obama has drastically improved the economy, and elicited the Jihadists to drop their weapons and take up calm hobbies such as gardening and pottery.
    He also stopped the rise of the oceans.

    Elephant Stone (65d289)

  75. How can I be so cynical? What can I say, its a gift.

    Meanwhile, I think Lyle at The View from North Central Idaho says it best regarding the current economic situation.

    A lot of people are not so much thinking of hiring right now as they’re just Bracing For Impact.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  76. There’s not much you can do about it but, you know, a troll calling itslef P. Tillman is actually disgusting.

    Yup.

    Dustin (73fead)

  77. This is completely ridiculous.

    The Presidential debate is going to close the central commuter corridor for five hours, beginning at 5 PM. I25 in Denver will be closed to all traffic beginning at 5 PM. This is the most congested part of the most congested freeway in the Denver metro area.

    We need to get Obama out of office, and then we need to fire every single son of a bitch in the Secret Service. They’ve found a way to be worse than the TSA.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  78. ___________________________________________

    Waaay off topic, but bad things happening in free speech land tonight.

    Not really, since the topic of this thread can be extended to what happens to an economy when liberal nitwits are in charge of things.

    For instance, what’s sort of Obama’s ideological kissing cousin in Argentina, referring to President Cristina Kirchner, has made it illegal for anyone to publish inflation rates that aren’t approved by the government. Violators are fined big bucks for publicizing what in reality are extremely high inflation figures, running in the 20s.

    From that segue, we can turn to the wonderful example of Nidal Hasan and the US military. The people in that branch of government afforded Islamo-fascist Dr. Hasan all the rights imaginable of free speech. He certainly wasn’t fined and made to wear a dunce cap, as what’s done to economic analysts in Argentina, or, heck, the film maker from Cerritos, Cali. So Hasan was able to happily spew anti-US rhetoric right up to the day he took away the free-speech rights — forever — of those people he brutally gunned down.

    They say that liberalism is a mental disorder. I think it’s worse than that. I’d say it’s more a form of derangement and retardation.

    Mark (6d5e0d)

  79. Meanwhile, the Obama administration is conducting more secret surveillance of Americans than the Bush administration ever did.

    Well, they’ve progressed from street thuggery (Brown-shirts), to the secret-police (Gestapo).

    AD-Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! (2bb434)

  80. Off Topic but important – I just ran across this

    Hospital Blood Tests Can Lead to Anemia

    I bet that’s not the only kind of testing in a hospital that is harmful. It’s probably especially bad in people over 75 or 80.

    Doctors have long assumed that hospital-acquired anemia was caused by bleeding during surgery, Kosiborod said. But anemic patients are no more likely to suffer such complications, he said.

    Kosiborod said he and the team of researchers from St. Luke’s and several other medical centers are the first to trace the likelihood of acquired anemia among heart attack patients to the number of blood tests they receive.

    Talk about stupid.

    And this is not malpractice, because everybody does that – not to do it, would be he exception. It’s maybe even caused by fear of malpractice.

    At some hospitals, total blood draws averaged as much as 8 ounces among anemic patients.

    That may not seem like much; it’s roughly half or less than what a blood donor gives at one sitting.

    But blood donors are healthy volunteers, Kosiborod said. Their bone marrow can replenish red blood cells quickly.

    “People who are healthy, they won’t even feel (the blood loss),” he said. “Hospital patients are not healthy people. Their bone marrow isn’t as capable.”

    Stupid, stupid, stupid.

    This should have been obvious years ago. Also people suffering from infections have different nutritional requirements.

    Sammy Finkelman (1190c5)

  81. just imagine how bad the manufacturing sector would be if the dollar wasn’t so weak …

    JeffC (488234)

  82. Yes, but if the Dollar was stronger, the cost of energy would be lower, and the total costs of manufacturing (particularly the transportation factors) would be lower too,
    further promoting overseas trade.

    AD-Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! (b8ab92)

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