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9/19/2012

Obama on Your Institutional Racism

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 11:25 pm



Charles C. Johnson — otherwise known as “the good Charles Johnson” — reports:

A course description for “Current Issues in Racism and the Law,” a class Barack Obama taught at the University of Chicago Law School 12 times between 1992 and 2004, categorized race relations in the United States as “institutional racism in American society.”

From the course description:

It is relevant to explain why Obama thinks you are a a racist.

In fact, I hear he thinks 47% of Americans are racists.

Turns out he liked the theory of reparations, too. Just didn’t think it was workable.

96 Responses to “Obama on Your Institutional Racism”

  1. Racists

    Patterico (83033d)

  2. just the basic idea of this twat grading anything a paying student might submit is demeaning to the whole idea of higher education

    happyfeet (5e4920)

  3. He’s one of those profs you have to tailor your paper towards politically if you want an A, isn’t he?

    Dustin (73fead)

  4. Affirmative action IS reparations.

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  5. He’s one of those profs you have to tailor your paper towards politically if you want an A, isn’t he?

    Yes, but you’d never know what was operative.

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  6. Black Liberation Theology, Social Justice, Critical Race Theory, Institutional Racism – SHOCKA!

    No surprises here. Democrat Victimhood Industrial Complex hard at work.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  7. “can minorities afford to shift their emphasis given the continued prevalence of racism in society?”
    — It’s a good thing that Mr. Obama found a different job, because the less prevalent that racism becomes the less relevant his course becomes. [It’s an even better thing that Dr. Cornel West has tenure.]

    “Can, and should, the existing concepts of American jurisprudence provide racial minorities more than formal equality through the courts?”
    — Such as . . . ? Reparations? Lawsuits over the use of code words such as “peanut butter”?

    Icy (981d7a)

  8. how on earth was our SCOAMF going to read and grade papers that weren’t submitted on teleprompter tapes?

    and heaven help the student who turned in anything written in proper English or using words larger than two syllables: he’d give those an “F”, just to cover up the fact that he couldn’t understand them.

    redc1c4 (403dff)

  9. How could someone teach a course in “current issues in racism and the law” and not include the topic of institutional racism?

    beerandcoffee (15c8d4)

  10. Well, that’s only the “typical white person(s)” that are racist.

    I don’t think we’ve ever heard HIM make any statement about blacks or other minorities that are not voting for him or are declared Republicans. (Now or in the past. Say like MLK?)

    They’ve known for years that reparations was a non-starter for a whole bunch of technical reasons let alone the fairness issue and the push back they would get from other victim classes.

    Stealth reparations AND US deconstruction!!!

    It’s a win win for liberal academics who’ve helped create and foster the current manipulation of the race discussion by; false claims, false labels, straw men and ad hoc attacks anywhere else. (with of course the complicity of the progressive media)

    Jcw46 (b4329c)

  11. How ever will I overcome my racism without the wonderous Obama leading us?So he basically BSed a class a twice a week, gave no real tests, had everyone write a lovely paper about the awfulness of whitey and how The Man should pony up some cash. A navel-gazing win for everyone in this academic circle jerk- an easy A for University of Chicago law students who parroted this nonsense. And the school administration was only to happy to get a big AA checkmark for having this nonsense and this African-American teacher in their curriculum.

    Probably doing such hard work involves more than $16 trillion in debt.It’s not like Obama is now going to start making ahrd decisions; he never has before. Which is really the point; this guy has NO IDEA what the hell to do about the economy.All he is really is a walking talking airing of grievances. If you want that easy teacher who comes late, leaves early and blows it off often, Obama is your man.

    Bugg (6cf7f9)

  12. Would note this awful society is so evil and racist it elected an African-American president. The man still has no sense of irony and not a whiff of humor either.

    Bugg (6cf7f9)

  13. Here is the problem as I see it with the course précis about this “seminar”: A course that starts off with the premise that there is rampant institutional racism rather than have students explore and research and draw conclusions about if and where it may exist in American institutions and how racism might both obviously and subtly manifest itself, is not constructed so students can learn. It is propaganda by a propagandist from the get go.

    elissa (13cee1)

  14. Am I the only one who noticed that it should read “racial discrimination” instead of “racism”?

    Icy (981d7a)

  15. __________________________________________

    Just didn’t think it was workable.

    But not too different from his original supposed resistance or opposition to the idea of same-sex marriage. Merely a feigned reaction, his saying (and believing) quietly, “What I state in public is one thing, what I state in private is a totally different matter—so where there’s a will, there’s a way. And if I have my way, look out, world! You ain’t seen nuthin’ yet!”

    Mark (94ed7f)

  16. When I see the facts, that over 90% of black voters voted for Obama then I have to wonder who are the real racists in our country.

    Obama won only because he had a sufficient non-black votes. This is a show of that the times have changed and so have most people.

    OhioRiver (63ad60)

  17. _______________________________________________

    that over 90% of black voters voted for Obama

    I’d only qualify by that by mentioning that a similarly high percentage of black America has favored all liberals, all Democrats, going back several decades. So overwhelming numbers of black respondents have punched a chad or pulled the lever for an Al Gore, a John Kerry or this person in 1988:

    Michael Dukakis vs George Bush Sr.

    Black….89%…..11%

    If leftism were a race or ethnicity (or sexuality or religion), that truly is the “race” (or ethnicity or sexual identity, etc) of various sub-groups throughout American society.

    Mark (94ed7f)

  18. On your Institutional Racism, and ours.

    “Bill Clinton on Obama: “A Few Years Ago This Guy Would Have Been Carrying Our Bags”

    The demographics race we’re losing badly,” said Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (S.C.). “We’re not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term.”

    Congressman West: “Oh come on, I mean you know I was the only black member of a white supremacist motorcycle gang, so liberals and there are certain others I would say even within our party that are not comfortable with strong black conservative voices, and I would say there are people that feel very threatened by that because we do stand on principle. We are someone or entities that are out of the mainstream, if you want to call it that, so liberals are definitely going to come at you. But I think you also have this inner fight within our primary candidates for that piece of the pie that they want to have.”

    Etc…

    sleeeepy (b5f718)

  19. God damn America!

    sleeeepy (b5f718)

  20. Sleeeeeeepy gets excited calling people racists.

    JD (318f81)

  21. I got it–black people are supposed to pretend that racism doesn’t exist.

    Or, agree with people on this blog that the only real victims of racism are white people.

    Just in case Republicans want to know why 90% of black folks would rather eat glass than register as a Republican, look in the mirror.

    Geek, Esq. (f2a108)

  22. No strawmen there!

    Patterico (83033d)

  23. sleeeeepy, do you have ANY current examples of institutional racism?

    Icy (981d7a)

  24. __________________________________________

    “Bill Clinton on Obama: “A Few Years Ago This Guy Would Have Been Carrying Our Bags”

    And yet look at all the dumb liberals/Democrats who fete that guy, who continue and always will gush over him, and who in some cases have labeled him “America’s first black president.”

    (Arkansas Trooper) Larry Patterson confirmed that he frequently heard Bill Clinton use “n——” to refer to both Jesse Jackson and local Little Rock black leader Robert “Say” McIntosh. Longtime Clinton paramour Dolly Kyle Browning corroborated Patterson on Clinton’s use of “n—–.” “Not only did he use the ‘N’ word, he called him a ‘GDN’ [goddamn n—–], if you catch my drift,” Browning told Fox News in 1999. [NewsMax, 17 July 2000]

    Brown also told NewsMax that the president would regularly make derogatory comments about African-Americans in private. “He has used the ‘N’ word before. Bill would make snide remarks about blacks behind their backs.” [Carl Limbacher and NewsMax Staff, 17 July 2000]

    Patterson said Hillary was no stranger to the “N” word either. He heard her say “n—–” “probably six, eight, ten times. She would be upset with someone in the black community and she would use the ‘N’ word, like, you heard they’ve got the president’s brother on tape using the ‘N’ word.” [NewsMax, 17 July 2000]

    There are certainly some on the right who will carry the water — who will be suck-ups — for a conservative/Republican, no matter how corrupt and disreputable he (or she) is. But I think that behavior is far more common, among far more of those on the left, than it is for those on the right.

    That’s why traditional and other forms of corruption (socio-economic) tend to flourish, and to an even greater degree, when people of leftist bent are running things (eg, Hello, Detroit, Michigan!)

    Mark (94ed7f)

  25. The entire metaphor of “the dog whistle,” is that only dogs can hear it.

    Therefore, if you happen to hear “racism” when someone chastises how often Obama plays golf, or when someone advocates for welfare reform, or when a commentator refers to “Obama” rather than “President Obama” when speaking about him in the third person, or when someone speaks of eating a peanut butter jelly sandwich, (that’s the latest allegation of “racism” meme from a school principal in Oregon) it must mean that you’re the racist.

    Elephant Stone (65d289)

  26. I mean you know I was the only black member of a white supremacist motorcycle gang,

    My goodness, I knew West was tough, didn’t know that tough.
    Maybe make him sec of defense, or state, or UN ambassador, or WH press secretary.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  27. Geeky Lawyer – are you that fundamentally dishonest on your practice, or does your hatred give you license to do so against your political opponents? Can you point to us where anyone claimed racism doesn’t exist? Or that white people are the only victims of racism? Ready? Go!

    JD (dbb735)

  28. __________________________________

    look in the mirror.

    Yep, they do need to do that. They need to scrutinize how far too many cities throughout the US that are predominantly black, and that are managed by mostly black government officials, are in too many (if not all) instances a prime example of socio-economic anomie and dysfunction, year after year, decade after decade.

    They have to look in the mirror and ask themselves: “Has liberalism gone berserk, in which 90-plus percent of us treat the left as though it were a holy religion, resulted in our communities being truly healthier, happier, wealthier places?!”

    I’ve seen the remark made by some wags that generally any urban area in the US where a major street is named for Martin Luther King Jr is probably going to be the part of the city where an out-of-towner should be cautious or hesitant about spending much time in, particularly at night. So that sad irony is what it has come down to, over 45 years since the beginning of the era of civil rights and diversity—and liberalism going off the deep end.

    Mark (94ed7f)

  29. What does Bill Cosby have to say about this kind of BS?

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  30. “My name is Inigo Montoya, and I work for the Geek Esquad,” drew this in the sand with his rapier wit:
    I got it–black people are supposed to pretend that racism doesn’t exist.
    — Yeah, you “got it” the same way Charlie Brown ‘got’ the pop-up that landed in his glove and then fell to the ground.

    Or, agree with people on this blog that the only real victims of racism are white people.
    — How much dinero to your favorite charity if you can prove this assertion?

    Just in case Republicans want to know why 90% of black folks would rather eat glass than register as a Republican, look in the mirror.
    — Perhaps it is 90% of black folk that need to look in the mirror and ask why they still need an elite class of mostly white folk taking care of them.

    Icy (981d7a)

  31. The real problem is Obama’s approach to teaching this course was based on a faulty premise.

    Ralph Gizzip (5ab3ea)

  32. “Here is the problem as I see it with the course précis about this “seminar”: A course that starts off with the premise that there is rampant institutional racism rather than have students explore and research and draw conclusions about if and where it may exist in American institutions and how racism might both obviously and subtly manifest itself, is not constructed so students can learn. It is propaganda by a propagandist from the get go.”

    elissa – Hasn’t the topic migrated into official school curricula at this point so that institutional racism, white privilege, moral relativism, multi-culti feel goodness, and social justice indoctrination are complete well before students reach law school?

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  33. And Obama is still probably going to win. There are MANY white suburban liberals who will vote for him to prove they are “antiracist.” They are so guilt-ridden that they can do nothing else.

    DN (d1a4f3)

  34. Greetings:

    Back when I went to college in the last century, a “course” was different from a “seminar” both in breadth and duration. Is this some legalese construct that the general public is unaware of or just more of President Obama;s creative writing ???

    11B40 (fc95f1)

  35. “Just in case Republicans want to know why 90% of black folks would rather eat glass than register as a Republican, look in the mirror.”

    Most blacks would rather register with the party that defended slavery and created Jim Crow for one reason and one reason only: that’s the party that promises them “free” handouts.

    Definite proof that black people can be every bit as stupid and venal as white people.

    Dave Surls (46b08c)

  36. Note the “Mr.” Obama at the end! Not “Prof”.

    DickS (fe5cd9)

  37. “In 1999, only 23 percent of the students said they would repeat Obama’s racism class. He was the third-lowest-ranked lecturer at the law school that year. And in 2003, only a third of the student evaluators recommended his classes.”

    http://washingtonexaminer.com/chapter-ii-the-myth-of-the-rock-star-professor/article/2508418#.UFtFrFGAd8E

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  38. ____________________________________________

    washingtonexaminer.com/chapter-ii-the-myth-of-the-rock-star-professor

    If a conservative/Republican had all the lousy qualities and characteristics of Obama, I can’t imagine sticking up for him. I’d instead furrow my brow, zip my lips and ease on over to the corner of the room, too embarrassed to deal with such a person. However, yea, there would be some on the right who’d be Republican versions of Kool-Aid drinkers, but not to the absurd degree that I observe with far too many liberals.

    When I see those on the left prostrating themselves at the feet of such disreputable, pock-marked people — politicians in particular — it becomes obvious to me that liberalism to such folks really is a form of religion. That liberalism or being a liberal, or bowing in front of liberals, means never having to say one is sorry. Because they take the bias of leftism and place it in a sacred and holy shrine.

    Mark (94ed7f)

  39. Note the “Mr.” Obama at the end! Not “Prof”.
    Comment by DickS — 9/20/2012 @ 9:36 am

    — His job title was “Senior Lecturer”. The title of “Professor” is usually only conferred upon lecturers with PhD’s and peer-reviewed research papers to their credit.

    Although, I hear that Nobel Peace Prize Winners receive the title retroactively.

    Icy (981d7a)

  40. Congressman West: “Oh come on, I mean you know I was the only black member of a white supremacist motorcycle gang,

    Yep, his sarcasm still goes over Dems’ heads.

    As for Bill Clinton and David Gergen, sure, they’re racist all right. They’re your problem, you can keep them; and you can have Lindsay Graham as a bonus.

    There is no such thing as “institutional racism”.

    Milhouse (15b6fd)

  41. Unlike you, I couldn’t care less whether Obama is Black, white, brown, blue or yellow.

    The fact that he’s not ROMNEY RED (Republican) is the only issue of chromatic importance to me.

    P. Tillman (fcbc8b)

  42. I wonder if any of his students wrote about United Trinity Church.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGBw8jS3sMw

    nk (875f57)

  43. He was using Derrick Bell’s hornbook in that class, according to Cantor’s 2008 piece

    narciso (ee31f1)

  44. Unlike you, I couldn’t care less whether Obama is Black, white, brown, blue or yellow.

    — Therefore, YOU will NOT mention Barack Obama’s race, in ANY context, EVER again. Correct?

    Icy (981d7a)

  45. Even Tommy Xopher is more honest than this idiot.

    Milhouse (15b6fd)

  46. By the by, TPaw has quit the Romney campaign.

    Icy (981d7a)

  47. “Racism” exists in ALL societies, throughout the world. It is “the fear of the other” that exists in all of us.
    Who among us can stand and say that they have never pre-judged anyone (well, except for The Comatose One, who – by his writings here – demonstrates a complete lack of a sentient existence)?
    (((crickets)))

    AD-Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! (b8ab92)

  48. Comment by Icy — 9/20/2012 @ 10:35 am

    That would be a plus, right?

    AD-Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! (b8ab92)

  49. “Therefore, YOU will NOT mention Barack Obama’s race, in ANY context, EVER again. Correct?”

    Incorrect, simp. “Mentioning” race vs. basing voting decisions on it are quite obviously (to those with even the most basic critical thinking skills) unrelated.

    P. Tillman (fcbc8b)

  50. Well, it’s not like B.H.Obama is the FIRST Black President.

    AD-Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! (b8ab92)

  51. The fact that he’s not ROMNEY RED (Republican) is the only issue of chromatic importance to me.

    This ridiculous association of red with Republicans and blue with Democrats has been carried way too far. The press used to alternate the colours every election, in order not to appear biased, so this year it’s the Republicans’ turn to be blue. But about ten years ago they seem to have realised the cat is out of the bag, everyone knows they’re biased, so they decided to stick the Rs with the red colour. We shouldn’t stand for it, and should reclaim our proper blue, and remind the world that the Ds are deep red. As Allen West pointed out, there are about 80 communists in the Congress, and they’re all Ds.

    Milhouse (15b6fd)

  52. “Unlike you, I couldn’t care less whether Obama is Black, white, brown, blue or yellow.”

    PT – Heh. Is that why you see everything through the prism of race then or is there another explanation for your obsession with racial identity politics?

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  53. PT – What color do you consider the Jooooos?

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  54. ‘The fact that he’s not ROMNEY RED (Republican) is the only issue of chromatic importance to me.’

    No doubt.

    When push comes to shove, lefties really only care about one thing, when it comes to politics, and that’s getting something for nothing via government theft, and they’ll vote for anyone who promises them a bigger welfare check. The skin color of the person giving them their handouts is a minor consideration.

    They’d vote for Lucifer himself, if he promised to increase food stamp payments.

    Dave Surls (46b08c)

  55. Comment by Icy — 9/20/2012 @ 10:35 am
    That would be a plus, right?
    Comment by AD-Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! — 9/20/2012 @ 10:36 am

    — T’ain’t nuthin’ but a thing.

    Icy (981d7a)

  56. Well, it’s not like B.H.Obama is the FIRST Black President
    Comment by AD-Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! — 9/20/2012 @ 10:41 am

    — Its true. Even Morgan Freeman knows!

    Icy (981d7a)

  57. This ridiculous association of red with Republicans and blue with Democrats has been carried way too far.

    Agreed, but trolls screeching all caps ‘red’ is pretty amusing.

    Dustin (73fead)

  58. Incorrect, simp. “Mentioning” race vs. basing voting decisions on it are quite obviously (to those with even the most basic critical thinking skills) unrelated.
    Comment by P. Tillman — 9/20/2012 @ 10:40 am

    — So, your response is “I never play the race card, but I reserve the right to play it at any time, and as often as I feel like doing so.”

    Icy (981d7a)

  59. “So, your response is “I never play the race card, but I reserve the right to play it at any time, and as often as I feel like doing so.””

    Man you are dumb.

    P. Tillman (fcbc8b)

  60. “So, your response is “I never play the race card, but I reserve the right to play it at any time, and as often as I feel like doing so.””

    Icy – Naw, PT played it yesterday, plus IMDW hates it some Jooooos.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  61. _______________________________________

    They’d vote for Lucifer himself….

    And they’d do exactly that — and be garden-variety racists or bigots in the process, certainly if that were a required part of the bargain — because in their own deluded minds they’re on the side of compassion, generosity, humaneness, do-gooder populism and sophistication.

    Agreed, but trolls screeching all caps ‘red’ is pretty amusing.

    But remember, Dustin, your mentioning that some of your best friends are liberals, and thinking that I’m sometimes too disdainful of the left? And then I said it would be almost a good thing if trolls were really “trolls,” because that then would imply they don’t buy into the nonsense they spout. I think people similar to Tillman truly believe the stuff they spew, and THAT is what it makes it (or them) so pathetic. Even more so, if someone like that is well past his or her high-school or college-age years, or is a shining example of arrested development, of stunted maturity.

    Mark (94ed7f)

  62. They’d vote for Lucifer himself….

    As it is, they vote instead for a man who follows the “Rules” of someone who merely admired Lucifer.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  63. But remember, Dustin, your mentioning that some of your best friends are liberals, and thinking that I’m sometimes too disdainful of the left? And then I said it would be almost a good thing if trolls were really “trolls,” because that then would imply they don’t buy into the nonsense they spout. I think people similar to Tillman truly believe the stuff they spew, and THAT is what it makes it (or them) so pathetic. Even more so, if someone like that is well past his or her high-school or college-age years, or is a shining example of arrested development, of stunted maturity.

    To elaborate, some of my good friends occasionally show stunted maturity and arrested development, too. They are still good people. Some of my friends on the left enjoy political debate (and none of them recognize the species of the left that I’ve found on the internet… we agree that those people are up to something more than activism). Some of my friends on the left leave politics aside when we interact. It’s good to be able to get past politics and talk about Longhorn football or a home improvement project or work.

    Just about everyone who knows me is aware that I’m passionate about my conservative politics, but a majority of people I interact with don’t see this as my defining characteristic, and I appreciate that.

    Dustin (73fead)

  64. What’s so objectionable about that course description, again?

    Leviticus (19b6fe)

  65. Leviticus, its use of discredited source material. It has the credibility of a Ward Churchill essay.

    SPQR (6f30cb)

  66. Working title of new Obama motivational book:

    “Fail Yourself to Success…the Obama Way!”

    MarkJ (42fe5b)

  67. A while back, Glen Beck, having examined Obama’s policies and statements said that Obama hates white people. Given the excerpt from the Obama course description, Beck is right.

    john b (bfca78)

  68. Leviticus, using the law for reasons other than literal justice, but to promote the cause of certain races, is Critical Race Theory. That approach is contrary to Obama’s oath of office and is unbecoming of a president.

    He told us what he thought about reparations. He agreed entirely with the theory of reparations. But in practice he didn’t think it was really workable,” the former student said. “You could tell he thought he had let the cat out of the bag and felt uncomfortable.”

    Perhaps Obama should have let the cat out of the bag when campaigning to be a post racial and post partisan president?

    I guess it’s fine for kooky law school seminars (shouldn’t they be taking Corporations or Wills and Estates instead of Law and the Aggrieved, though?)

    Dustin (73fead)

  69. “This ridiculous association of red with Republicans and blue with Democrats”

    No kidding. The Dems are communists and the Republicans make us blue because they do little or nothing to get rid of communism (at least in America).

    The color scheme needs to be flipped.

    Dave Surls (46b08c)

  70. 69.

    “This ridiculous association of red with Republicans and blue with Democrats”

    No kidding. The Dems are communists and the Republicans make us blue because they do little or nothing to get rid of communism (at least in America).

    The color scheme needs to be flipped.

    Comment by Dave Surls — 9/20/2012 @ 1:43 pm

    I trust you know the color scheme was chosen for a political purpose? To assign to the other side the evils associated with it, the evils the assigners would in fact indulge in if they were free to do so?

    It’s the same process by which our domestic statists associated the German and Italian national socialist statists with the non-statist right wing.

    And in our present age our statists are accusing the GOP of being the domestic Taliban, while they are cooperating with foreign talibans to suppress free speech (amongst other things).

    Steve57 (c8ac21)

  71. It is hard to figure out what Obama was actually teaching through that verbiage. But it probably incoporated stuff other people said. I don’t think Obama was too interested in its truth value.

    There was a lot Obama was committed to accepting as true because his career depended on it.

    But it could be that Obama was actually trying to (very gently) knock down some of the prevalent ideas he encountered in academia, and replace them with other ideas somewhat closer to reality, or to a justly run society.

    Look at the course syllabus. He is challenging some of the conventional wisdom of the radicals.

    Has the continued emphasis on statutory solutions to racism impeded the development of potentially richer political, economic, and cultural approaches…

    Then he puts in the argument maybe minorities can’t shift their approach because of all the supposed racism, but he still looking for a yes answer to that question.

    And he asks: Can law give them more than formal equality??

    Now what that means is you can have formal equality but you will still be poor, and perhaps treated differently because of race.

    (although in actuality it’s not really race and race is not the only factor)

    For instance, automobile salesmen will still spot you as an easy mark, or uneducated, and bankruptcy lawyers will still not advise Chapter 11 to blacks with the same frequency, and doctors will still for one reason or another not give you the same advice as others – maybe not consider you capable of following a complicated or expensive course of treatment. All of this unhostile or at least unhateful prejudice being considered racism.

    There is an interesting twist about Obama.

    Obama’s general stated approach seems to have been that doing things through the courts wasn’t really so good, and it would be much better to do things through legislation and politics. I heard that on some other famous old Obama tape. From this, it sounds like he doesn’t like special reference legislation either.

    The BIG LIE with all of this is that there’s not a lot of problems with the black family because there is(averaged out) and it is that, or the individual gaps in knowledge.

    A big problem is that crime and disrespect in general is not acknowledged as a problem.

    I don’t think these students were very much helped to get to the truth.

    Still Obama was trying to avoid having people think the answer to, say, the perevalence of black poverty, was special race-based legislation.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  72. But it could be that Obama was actually trying to (very gently) knock down some of the prevalent ideas he encountered in academia, and replace them with other ideas somewhat closer to reality, or to a justly run society.

    The student in the classroom said Obama supported reparations.

    Dustin (73fead)

  73. Comment by Dave Surls — 9/20/2012 @ 1:43 pm

    The color scheme needs to be flipped.

    NBC did in the 1990s and that’s how Republicans became red and Democrats became blue.

    It got frozen because of the 2000 election.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  74. chapter 11, Finkelman? Really?

    SPQR (6f30cb)

  75. “He told us what he thought about reparations. He agreed entirely with the theory of reparations. But in practice he didn’t think it was really workable,””

    But then Obama agreed to ram Pigford through for votes with all the unmanageable fraud that settlement contained, so you have yet another example of Obama’s hypocrisy.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  76. But it could be that Obama was actually trying to (very gently) knock down some of the prevalent ideas he encountered in academia, and replace them with other ideas somewhat closer to reality, or to a justly run society.

    No, Sammy, it couldn’t be. It isn’t be.

    Jaysus H, Sammy, I’ve developed an affection for what you comment about here. Not everything, though, which may have lead you to the false conclusion that I’m hostile to you.

    But could you, please, restrict your departures from reality to something like 2k/day?

    Steve57 (c8ac21)

  77. ‘A course description for “Current Issues in Racism and the Law,” a class Barack Obama taught at the University of Chicago Law School 12 times between 1992 and 2004, categorized race relations in the United States as “institutional racism in American society.”’

    Given the history of Barry’s political party, I take it this was a “How To” course.

    Dave Surls (46b08c)

  78. It got frozen because of the 2000 election. the aversion to comparing democrats to socialists.

    Comment by Sammy Finkelman

    FTFY

    Dustin (73fead)

  79. “But it could be that Obama was actually trying to (very gently) knock down some of the prevalent ideas he encountered in academia, and replace them with other ideas somewhat closer to reality, or to a justly run society.”

    Comment by Dustin — 9/20/2012 @ 2:02 pm

    The student in the classroom said Obama supported reparations.

    You’d gently knock it down by conceding the merits but using the argument of practicality against it.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  80. “When I see the facts, that over 90% of black voters voted for Obama then I have to wonder who are the real racists in our country.”

    In some red states overhwelming numbers of white males voted against obama. You still have to wonder who are the real racists or you going to find a new chip to carry?

    beerandcoffee (15c8d4)

  81. beerandcoffee, it wasn’t 90% so your rebuttal wasn’t.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  82. You’d gently knock it down by conceding the merits but using the argument of practicality against it.

    Comment by Sammy Finkelman

    Daleyrocks is right to note that Pigford speaks to a different cause in Obama’s heart.

    Also, what are the merits? Why should the US president be passing the sins of our great grandfathers or the trials of our great grandfathers?

    And if he does support the merits, he should have campaigned on them instead of hiding them, in my opinion.

    Dustin (73fead)

  83. beerandcoffee,

    Bro, are you sure that’s just beer that you’re putting in your coffee ?

    Elephant Stone (65d289)

  84. “beerandcoffee, it wasn’t 90% so your rebuttal wasn’t.”

    That sentence doesn’t make much sense, but I will point out that Obama got 9% of the white male vote in Alabama and Mississippi.

    beerandcoffee (c770a7)

  85. I trust you know the color scheme was chosen for a political purpose? To assign to the other side the evils associated with it, the evils the assigners would in fact indulge in if they were free to do so?

    Not really. The press used to alternate the colours every election, and in 2000 it just so happened to be the Rs’ turn to be red; but after that election they froze it in the wrong position. I don’t know why they were flipping them in the first place, instead of using the natural colours of red for socialists and blue for tories.

    Milhouse (15b6fd)

  86. Personally, I like the color red. Maybe because I was in the Artillery and one of the schools I attended uses the color. It’s a powerful color.

    Sometimes I feel like the GOP should use an oatmeal color instead.

    Dustin (73fead)

  87. That sentence doesn’t make much sense, but I will point out that Obama got 9% of the white male vote in Alabama and Mississippi.
    Comment by beerandcoffee — 9/20/2012 @ 5:54 pm

    — Yeah well, Gomer and Cousin Goober were never much about the book larnin’.

    In some red states overhwelming numbers of white males voted against obama. You still have to wonder who are the real racists or you going to find a new chip to carry?
    Comment by beerandcoffee — 9/20/2012 @ 5:12 pm

    — What is there to wonder about? Everyone that voted against Obama is a racist. We get it.

    Icy (ef28b1)

  88. “In some red states overhwelming numbers of white males voted against obama. You still have to wonder who are the real racists…”

    Wonder no more.

    43% of Whites voted for the New Messiah.

    96% of Blacks voted for him.

    Or, so says this article…

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15297.html

    Dave Surls (46b08c)

  89. From Randy Barnett:

    “While the course materials themselves do not tell us very much about Senator Obama, the candidate, what they do tell us about Obama, the teacher, is generally favorable. I was particularly intrigued by his 1994 syllabus on “Racism and the Law.” The materials assigned were balanced, including several readings by Frederick Douglass, who many modern race theorists have come to disparage as insufficiently radical (as Obama would know), along with an exchange between Harvard law professor Randall Kennedy on the one hand and Charles Cooper (who is now on Senator McCain’s advisory committee) and Texas law professor Lino Graglia on the other. All three essays appeared in the conservative/libertarian Harvard Journal of Law and Public Policy as part of a 1991 symposium on “The Future of Civil Rights Law” and were initially presented at the Federalist Society’s 1990 National Student Symposium held at Stanford. […] What particularly impressed me was how even handed were his presentations of the competing sides the students might take. These summaries were remarkably free of the sort of cant and polemics that all too often afflicts academic discussions of race. Were this not a seminar on “racism and the law” I doubt one could tell which side of each issue the teacher was on. And indeed, even knowing it was written by Senator Obama, one cannot be sure which side of each issue he really took. Whatever position he held, however, Obama could clearly see and dispassionately articulate the other side.

    The exam question and answer keys manifest a keen comprehension of then-prevailing Supreme Court Due Process and Equal Protection Clause doctrine. There is no doubt that his students were taught “the law” (such as it was), not merely the teacher’s viewpoints….”

    (emphasis added)

    leo marvin (45619c)

  90. “– What is there to wonder about? Everyone that voted against Obama is a racist. We get it.”

    No you’re not paying attention — this is about the “Obama got 90% of the black vote so where is the real racism” trope.

    BeerandCoffee (c770a7)

  91. Imdw/beerandcoffee – how many names are you up to now?

    JD (1b45d7)

  92. “Imdw/beerandcoffee – how many names are you up to now?”

    JD – It has used that same white male Alabama and Mississippi stat before.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  93. and skidmarks surround
    teh Big “O” which truth be told
    should be more puckered

    Colonel Haiku (325299)

  94. ______________________________________________

    we agree that those people are up to something more than activism

    I guess I just have a different take on what makes someone a troll or not. To me a “troll” is a person who says something not because he necessarily believes what he says, but to stir things up, to cause flame wars, and to argue for arguement’s sake. They make me think of spectators at the Indianapolis 500 who aren’t necessarily fans of race cars and are more into the cheap thrill of seeing big, bloody accidents.

    Obama’s general stated approach seems to have been that doing things through the courts wasn’t really so good, and it would be much better to do things through legislation and politics.

    That’s really just a distinction without a difference. Nothing in his background indicates he has even a glimmer of moderate or centrist biases, so I’d be surprised if he was bothered by a typical woe-is-me, “victicrat” agenda, or most definitely didn’t want to give wide latitude to those who do favor that approach to life (eg, judges, legislators).

    Mark (386027)

  95. Forget it Leo. These are folks who can’t handle reading the words “institutional racism” in a syllabus. You think they care what Randy Barnett thinks?

    BeerandCoffee (c770a7)

  96. How many names, imdw?

    JD (1b45d7)


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