More random observations … Updated x3
[Guest post by JD]
The NY Times and Crissy Mathews choose today to level new smears against Bush.
And Libya. Americans have died in Libya now.
And Obambi shows how much he supports Israel by declining a request to meet with Netanyahu, as his schedule is too busy telling lies and raising money and golfing. The White House has issued a statement denying this.
Update – VP Joe Biden said 9/11 is bittersweet. WTF
Update 2 – Barcky releases video to Arab Forum on 9/11.
I truly hope Breitbart got this one wrong wrong wrong. But I doubt it.
– JD
This is a lousy day.
Comment by JD (ecf0b9) — 9/11/2012 @ 3:56 pm
Some days I really am disgusted with people.
Comment by JD (ecf0b9) — 9/11/2012 @ 4:10 pm
0bama is too busy golfing, campaigning, fundraising and rubbing elbows with celebrities and gangsta rappers to attend his security briefings, meet with Netanyahu, or just do his freakin’ job.
Unfit for the office.
Comment by Colonel Haiku (a63051) — 9/11/2012 @ 4:16 pm
Good catch of the NYT The Hou Chron didnt even have a story on the main page
Comment by EPWJ (8a4ca7) — 9/11/2012 @ 4:18 pm
Obama chats Pitbull, Flo Rida, Medicare — but not 9/11 — with DJ ‘Pimp with the Limp’…
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2012/09/dolphins-dissing-president-obama-chats-pitbull-medicare-on-911-with-pimp-with-the-limp-dj.html
Comment by Colonel Haiku (a63051) — 9/11/2012 @ 4:18 pm
being an ally of the United States is still good for like when you want to get invited to ceremonies and stuff… just not if you’re, you know, Israel
Comment by happyfeet (e86a27) — 9/11/2012 @ 4:21 pm
‘There is no God but Allah and Mohammad is his messenger’…
Decapitating innocent people and taking home movies of same doesn’t offend Mohammed but a goddam movie does?
This administration and State Dept. offends me… and it offends me in a big way. November 6th can’t come soon enough. We need a major housecleaning.
Comment by Colonel Haiku (a63051) — 9/11/2012 @ 4:22 pm
http://youtu.be/Czmb6tEwFE8
Comment by Colonel Haiku (a63051) — 9/11/2012 @ 4:24 pm
plus lots of times after the ceremony you get free cake
Comment by happyfeet (e86a27) — 9/11/2012 @ 4:27 pm
This is a lousy day.
Comment by JD — 9/11/2012 @ 3:56 pm
Some days I really am disgusted with people.
Comment by JD — 9/11/2012 @ 4:10 pm
I went to bed feeling mean and I woke up even meaner, myself. I think it’s because Artemis has her bow instead of her shield, now. (Waning moon.)
Comment by nk (875f57) — 9/11/2012 @ 4:40 pm
Douche d.c.
Comment by mg (44de53) — 9/11/2012 @ 4:41 pm
Ironically, not only did Obama decline to meet with Netanyahu, but the president will be giving the opening speech to the GA at the UN in two weeks, followed by Ahmadinejad addressing the GA on the Jewish holy day of Yom Kippur, while Netanyahu will speak the day after.
Israel continues to take the hits.
Comment by Dana (292dcf) — 9/11/2012 @ 5:15 pm
Dana – makes me want to spit.
Comment by JD (ecf0b9) — 9/11/2012 @ 5:26 pm
Now’s the time to write to your US senator and congressmen and demand a stoppage of any aid to those 2 so-called “nations”
Comment by john b (729777) — 9/11/2012 @ 5:30 pm
followed by Ahmadinejad addressing the GA on the Jewish holy day of Yom Kippur
While I believe that the president of Iran should not be invited to address the United Nations, why should the UN schedule take into account a Jewish holiday? It’s not as if the Israeli delegation would otherwise attend the GA on that day.
Comment by aunursa (7014a8) — 9/11/2012 @ 6:22 pm
Obama really is following in Roosevelt’s footsteps. Remember when FDR apologized to Japan after Pearl Harbor?
Comment by navyvet (f5da59) — 9/11/2012 @ 6:22 pm
And “footsteps” is merely a figure of speech, of course.
I denounce myself and apologize in advance for all future attacks directed at U.S. citizens by the peace loving residents of the Middle East.
Comment by navyvet (f5da59) — 9/11/2012 @ 6:26 pm
Too busy for BiBi but plenty of time for Letterman, apparently. Priorities. huh?
Comment by Gazzer (b10435) — 9/11/2012 @ 6:30 pm
Someone in Congress should introduce a bill of impeachment against Hillary for apologizing. Just to see who objects, and why.
Comment by Kevin M (bf8ad7) — 9/11/2012 @ 6:41 pm
These apologies are really going to make Netanyahu trust us more. Good thing Obama’s door is always open. Oh, wait….
It is almost like the administration is goading Israel to act before the election, so that Obama has an October crisis to manager.
As if he could.
Odd bit of info: next two New Moons on the 15th of September and October.
Comment by Kevin M (bf8ad7) — 9/11/2012 @ 6:49 pm
*manage
Comment by Kevin M (bf8ad7) — 9/11/2012 @ 6:49 pm
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And Obambi shows how much he supports Israel by declining a request to meet with Netanyahu, as his schedule is too busy telling lies and raising money and golfing.
The relationship between Barry and Netanyahu has been reportedly rather frosty for quite awhile. But for the White House to be blatantly scheduling (or not scheduling) things the way they’re doing right now is pretty much an overt, publicized slap in the face. Even more so since the situation with Iran is becoming increasingly tense or even perilous.
If I didn’t think that Barry Soetero was a leftwing dolt about Israel and Iran (ie, “the sad, misunderstood, dejected, noble darker-skinned people of the Middle East are understandably upset about American imperialism and Jewish hegemony!!”), I’d even think he perhaps was involved in a strategy to make it look like Israel and the US were feuding in order to catch the Iranians off guard.
Comment by Mark (5a66fe) — 9/11/2012 @ 7:12 pm
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so that Obama has an October crisis to manager.
Not that you mention it, that’s a possibility too. I know that another icon of the Democrat Party, Bubba Clinton — because he wanted some major crisis to help burnish his reputation and place in history — always bemoaned how he was never tested during his presidency. And Monica, Paula Jones, etc, don’t count.
Obama is no less of a narcissist — and due to his undoubtedly understanding the meaning of a wag-the-dog scenario to help his chances of reelection — he very well may be privately relishing the thought of a battle royal breaking out in the Middle East.
Comment by Mark (5a66fe) — 9/11/2012 @ 7:22 pm
Breitbart’s got a problem with talking to Arabs? That’s whack.
Comment by marathonman (fbb879) — 9/11/2012 @ 7:27 pm
Hello, new troll.
Comment by JD (ecf0b9) — 9/11/2012 @ 7:28 pm
Not a very good troll.
Obama is avoiding meeting with Netanyahu to avoid receiving an ultimatum that Obama lacks the courage and leadership ability to deal with.
Coward. That’s Obama.
Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 9/11/2012 @ 7:36 pm
This Obama guy just tops himself day after day.
Romney and Obama had made a gentleman’s agreement in advance not to do politicking on 9/11 out of respect for the solemnity of the anniversary.
Romney kept his word, and Obama didn’t.
Please people, no voting for Gary Johnson on November 6…we have to fire this Obama person.
I love me some Ronald Reagan, but his selection of George “what’s this vision thing ?” Bush as VP hurt us down the road. Think of what coulda been in the ’90s had Reagan selected Jack Kemp as VP, as many people were pushing for in 1980.
With Paul Ryan (who actually worked for Kemp in the ’90s) as Romney’s VP, the table is being set for decades…Ryan’s apparently close with both Jindal and Rubio. Think of the baton being passed among those guys for the next several national tickets. Throw in potential national ticket future stars such as Mike Lee, Ron Johnson, Nikki Haley, Kelly Ayotte, Brian Sandoval, Mia Love, Allen West, Tim Scott, Ted Cruz, et al, and we can move the needle for years to come—but we need to facillitate that first chess move this November by electing Romney-Ryan.
On the other hand, think of what the US Supreme Court will become for the next few decades if Obama has the opportunity to elevate a couple of nuts from the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. If Breyer and or Ginsberg retires during the next four years, we can change the make-up of the court with Romney-Ryan appointments.
But if Obama is re-elected, he’ll replace them with lefties who are thirty years younger.
Comment by Elephant Stone (65d289) — 9/11/2012 @ 7:42 pm
National Review is reporting tonight,
Comment by Dana (292dcf) — 9/11/2012 @ 7:48 pm
This day was brought to you by B.O.
Comment by AZ Bob (1c9631) — 9/11/2012 @ 7:56 pm
“With Paul Ryan (who actually worked for Kemp in the ’90s) as Romney’s VP, the table is being set for decades…Ryan’s apparently close with both Jindal and Rubio”
It’s going to be really delicious if the Romney failboat manages to permanently sink Ryan.
Comment by marathonman (fbb879) — 9/11/2012 @ 7:58 pm
No more years!
Comment by Aurora Esperanza (f675f3) — 9/11/2012 @ 8:02 pm
3. “Unfit for the office.”
But a perfect fit for a pigskin sh*tsack.
Comment by gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 9/11/2012 @ 8:04 pm
I now know the rage Billy Jack felt when he said: “I try, I really try … but when I see this girl of such a beautiful spirit suffer this indignity … I just go BERSERK!”
Our beautiful country suffers at the hands of a SCOAMF.
Comment by PC14 (87cbf8) — 9/11/2012 @ 8:05 pm
29. Mengele’s dentist is in the house. Give it up people for our latest micro-minder.
Comment by gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 9/11/2012 @ 8:08 pm
Is it just in Minnesota that political bumper stickers have almost disappeared? Driving up into downtown Minneapolis this evening and back, I saw one for 0, one for Romney, one for EARTH, and two for Ron Paul (on different cars.)
Comment by htom (412a17) — 9/11/2012 @ 8:09 pm
35. You’re right, it’s been ages since the last Wellstone! sticker too. Cash for clunkers did them in.
The retired educator across the street has Klobuchar and Graves(6th District fatted calf) signs up but no Urkel.
Only a handful of signs, mostly local candidates, around town.
Comment by gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 9/11/2012 @ 8:20 pm
Fire and Ice
Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I’ve tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great
And would suffice.
– Robert Frost
Comment by elissa (760312) — 9/11/2012 @ 8:41 pm
Just to be clear, on 9-11, the two major Arab Spring nations decided to attack U.S. diplomatic outposts. The one in Cairo apologized for inciting the attackers to attack them and the response from the White House is to say the Cairo office should not have said what they said.
Frankly, I don’t think the current administration has its own house in control much less its outreach to other countries.
I don’t know how this could be under the great uniter, but I can’t wait to see how the knee-kneeling press spins this one.
Wait, Nightline managed to make a brief statement before leading into some segment about how OnStar tracked a criminal involved in an Arizona kidnapping.
I am actually at a loss for words. I shouldn’t be. Five-Hour Energy sales mean more than attacks on diplomatic missions when a Dem is the President.
Simply incredible.
Comment by Ag80 (b2c81f) — 9/11/2012 @ 8:43 pm
==A statement issued by the White House this evening denied claims that President Obama had refused to meet with Israel’s prime minister, Bibi Netenyahu. ”Contrary to reports in the press,” the statement argues, “there was never a request for Prime Minister Netanyahu to meet with President Obama in Washington, nor was a request for a meeting ever denied==
I’m sorry, Dana, but until Debbie Wasserman Schultz weighs in on this one I’m just not going to know who to believe.
Comment by elissa (760312) — 9/11/2012 @ 8:45 pm
DWS tested the waters, and demonstrated prominent Democrats can lie to our faces, particularly about what Israeli government officials have said.
How’s all that new found respect the people of the world is giving this country, now that cowboy Bush is gone and we’ve got the healer of the world and tame of the ocean’s rise in the WH, treating everyone?
The guy’s a joke. That was one of the benefits of the wikileaks scandal. We know for a fact that ME governments think Obama is a laughingstock. Of course, we don’t need direct quotes from Hamas or other officials to know the people of the ME in particular, and just throughout the world in general, think Obama is a weak sister.
Recall Obama’s first global warming conference in Copenhagen, when the Chinese and others just shut Obama out.
Obama has reeked of pathetic desperation from day one. That is, when he’s not dumping on an ally. When dealing with adversary, he just bends over.
Recall also the pathetic diplomatic notes he passed to the Iranian government via the Iraqi’s, our UN ambassador, and the Swiss embassy in Tehran. It was so weak it looked like something a junior high school girl would write when her boyfriend isn’t paying her any attention.
Everyone from Putin, to Ahmadinejad, to mobs in Egypt and Libya know Obama is a coward.
He’s not going to stop Iran from getting nukes. He can’t even keep the Muslim Brotherhood’s supporters from assaulting our embassy.
Comment by Steve57 (c8ac21) — 9/11/2012 @ 8:57 pm
There was an American death in the Benghazi attack.
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Secretary of State Hillary Clinton confirmed on Tuesday that a U.S. State Department officer was killed in an attack on the American consulate in Benghazi, Libya and she condemned the violence.
“Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet. The United States deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others,” she said in a statement. “But let me be clear: There is never any justification for violent acts of this kind.”
Comment by elissa (760312) — 9/11/2012 @ 9:05 pm
Well, that was sternly worded and sorry about the freedom of speech and all as well as the poor dead person.
Is that what we really want for another four years?
Comment by Ag80 (b2c81f) — 9/11/2012 @ 9:11 pm
Well, that was sternly worded and sorry about the freedom of speech and all as well as the poor dead person.
Is that what we really want for another four years?
Comment by Ag80 (b2c81f) — 9/11/2012 @ 9:11 pm
If Hillary could explain why I keep double-posting, I would vote for her as President.
Comment by Ag80 (b2c81f) — 9/11/2012 @ 9:12 pm
I feel like a character in an old “Twilight Zone” episode who doesn’t quite understand the rules of the game in his new reality.
Two of our embassies have been attacked in countries that are
theoreticallyironically experiencing the “Arab Spring,” yet there doesn’t seem to be much outrage emanating from the White House, nor among the media.“Technically” speaking, each attack is an act of war. One of our embassy officials has been murdered, no less.
Where’s the outrage ?
Are most Americans really so absorbed in their tv shows, their Netflix, their music downloads, et al, that they are just too distracted to care ?
I think a lot of political commentators on our side of the aisle who assume that people will see the light between now and election day, don’t realize how dumbed down the country is becoming. A lot of the people who voted Carter out of office in 1980 had grown up during the Depression and fought in WW2.
They had a sense of serious times to access in their memories. But a lot of those people are no longer with us to vote Obama out. They’ve been replaced by people who have been conditioned over the last 40 years to expect government to give them stuff.
In 2012, our Prez is actually calling into a hip-hop radio station and taking questions from a DJ by the name of “Pimp with a Limp.”
And that’s on the anniversary of the September 11 jihadist attacks.
Can you imagine, say, if Reagan or Kennedy had done something comparable on the anniversary of Pearl Harbor or D-Day ?
Comment by Elephant Stone (65d289) — 9/11/2012 @ 9:19 pm
44. I have the same issue. One needs to go to ‘Computer’ and root around for a keyboard stroke setting deep in Billy G’s bowels and prolly turn it up milliseconds.
If I give her a year the preschooler can probably do it for a fudgesicle.
Comment by gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 9/11/2012 @ 9:19 pm
Seriously, though, once the left gets in power, it has a hard time making the rest of the left shut up.
I know it’s a big tent and everything, but herding those cats is hard.
Comment by Ag80 (b2c81f) — 9/11/2012 @ 9:20 pm
44. Went to Computer and searched on keyboard. Threw me in Control Panel clicked on Keyboard and changed upped Repeat Delay under Speed tab.
Kiddo can learn that tomorrow.
Comment by gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 9/11/2012 @ 9:31 pm
And now, Powerline reports that an al-qaeda flag was flown over our Cairo embassy on 9/11.
This, and our apology ought to be running once an hour for a week as a Romney commercial. The next time someone mentions Romney’s lack of foreign policy experience, his response ought to be that, unlike the administration, he at least has common dog f***.
Comment by Kevin M (bf8ad7) — 9/11/2012 @ 10:33 pm
Idea for Romney commercial: Series of conversations between two women about the latest bad news, with the tagline: “Who’s he blaming this time?”
Comment by Kevin M (bf8ad7) — 9/11/2012 @ 11:18 pm
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Where’s the outrage ?
Outrage?! Hell, I wouldn’t mind seeing at least a bit of annoyance from the White House. Hell, I wouldn’t mind seeing at least a bit of unhappiness from them.
^ Hillary’s own statement is really not too different from the comments that supposedly were not vetted by Obama. Yea, he probably is irked because he wanted the statement to be presented by an US embassy official bowing in front of Egypt’s president.
Comment by Mark (5a66fe) — 9/12/2012 @ 12:08 am
‘“The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims – as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions,” the statement began.’
Yeah, right.
Not only does the United States government tolerate the feelings of Christians being hurt every day of the week, they frequently get caught subsidizing whack jobs who desecrate Christian symbols as part of alleged works of art.
2010:
“The National Portrait Gallery of the Smithsonian Institution is presenting a yuletide showing of such images as an ant-covered Jesus, Ellen DeGeneres clutching her breasts, naked male genitalia — and a painting the Smithsonian describes as “homoerotic” in its catalogue.”
“The federally funded exhibit, “Hide/Seek: Difference and Desire in American Portraiture,” runs through the Christmas season, closing on Feb. 13.”–Newsmax
Merry Christmas. Your tax dollars at work.
And as always…the stench of liberal hypocrisy fills the air.
Comment by Dave Surls (46b08c) — 9/12/2012 @ 12:34 am
random observation: electing Romneycare Romney per se doesn’t accomplish a whole hell of a lot in these waning days of failmerica
BUT it will still be kinda kicky like when danny got reuben to sell our song and it really came together when mom sang along
Comment by happyfeet (5e4920) — 9/12/2012 @ 12:46 am
“Our commitment to religious tolerance goes back to the very beginning of our nation.”–Hillary!
Speak for yourself, sweetheart.
Just because the federal government is prohibited from making laws respecting an establishment of religion doesn’t mean that I (personally) have to tolerate a festering pile of shit like Islam.
Comment by Dave Surls (46b08c) — 9/12/2012 @ 12:50 am
“The United States deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others.”–More Hillary, presuming to speak for me.
Deplore away, fatass. I’ll denigrate the religous beliefs of Al Qaida members and supporters any time the mood hits me.
And, you can kiss my ass, if you don’t like it.
Comment by Dave Surls (46b08c) — 9/12/2012 @ 12:53 am
I’m just trying to figure out how the official stance of the US that no religious feelings should be hurt squares with making Catholic employers pay for birth control they are against.
Comment by MayBee (c4effe) — 9/12/2012 @ 1:16 am
you forget how it’s just so intoxicating to make people do stuff
America f yeah!
Comment by happyfeet (5e4920) — 9/12/2012 @ 1:18 am
Cardinal Dolan should just tell Obama his Catholic feelings are hurt by Obamacare.
Comment by MayBee (c4effe) — 9/12/2012 @ 1:23 am
America’s grace is wasted in her face her boldness stands alone among the obama-raped wreck
Comment by happyfeet (5e4920) — 9/12/2012 @ 1:26 am
Let’s agree these embassy attacks were brought on by Obama spiking the football about OBL last week.
Comment by MayBee (c4effe) — 9/12/2012 @ 1:41 am
opportunism is regnant in the absence of leadership
but as long as you’re not israeli you basically have a fighting chance – esp. if you have a leg up on teh disabilitah
this is me not being depressed
Comment by happyfeet (5e4920) — 9/12/2012 @ 1:56 am
just kidding
Comment by happyfeet (5e4920) — 9/12/2012 @ 1:57 am
America if I could choose a place to die
it would be in your obama-raped arms
Comment by happyfeet (5e4920) — 9/12/2012 @ 2:18 am
Wow. Our Ambassador to Libya has been killed in a rocket attack on our embassy.
Tragic.
Comment by MayBee (c4effe) — 9/12/2012 @ 3:37 am
20. Odd. The Admin just can’t seem to do a thing right. Four years is long enough to learn from a mistake, we have hundreds just counting the campaign’s faceplants.
Night of the Nomination, Admiral spoke with Russian dreadnoughts on the big screen behind, conveying strength and competence.
I’ll go with 9/14 over 10/14, for D-day, its tough even to distract babes for a month.
Comment by gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 9/12/2012 @ 3:37 am
Well, the idea that Jimmy Carter redux would be best case version of the Obama administration is coming to fruition.
Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 9/12/2012 @ 5:52 am
GOP has no chance because there’s no credible bogeyman for them to use as the tentpole for their narrative circus. No scary communists ready to invade New York and the crazy Muslim thing just isn’t cutting it this time around because Obama wiped out Al Qaeda while the GOP wiped out the Treasury and an awful lot of Americans, without getting the job done.
You’re going to lose in November and the party’s going to split, with nutcases like the denizens of this blog doomed to at last lead the way in a party representing the 10 percent of Americans Lincoln was talking about when he said you can fool some of the people all of the time.
Comment by Col. Crink (7a9964) — 9/12/2012 @ 6:14 am
Why does Libya still exist? http://www.nationaljournal.com/nationalsecurity/u-s-ambassador-killed-in-libya-20120912
Does Obama expect Poseidon to punish it for the murder of ambassadors?
Comment by nk (875f57) — 9/12/2012 @ 6:42 am
“Wow. Our Ambassador to Libya has been killed in a rocket attack on our embassy.”
Happy 9/11.
Guess Obambi’s policy of appeasement and Muslim ass-kissing ain’t convincing the terrorists to love us.
And, four more Americans join the thousands already murdered by Muslim scum, thanks to the bungling incompetence of the Socialist-in-Chief.
Comment by Dave Surls (46b08c) — 9/12/2012 @ 6:43 am
Col. Crink represents some of the people, all of the time.
Comment by Icy (594cb6) — 9/12/2012 @ 6:44 am
“Obama wiped out Al Qaeda”
LOL.
Always good to hear from residents of Planet Loon.
Comment by Dave Surls (46b08c) — 9/12/2012 @ 6:47 am
Colonel Crink,
You sound like Saddam Hussein’s spokesman who famously became known to the world as “Baghdad Bob.”
In other words, the enemy is at the gates, yet you deny it.
The Muslim jihadists just suffocated to death our Ambassador to Libya—the same Libya that was allegedly part of the “Arab Spring” that Obama had commenced, and thus, pounded his chest as a major foreign policy achievement. An American official is dead—his murder is an act of war against our country—and his corpse was paraded through the streets as an end zone dance, yet you deny it has happened.
I’m guessing you might pin this one on the Joooooos. Or is it Booooosh’s fault ?
Nah, I bet if Mitt Romney’s wife didn’t own an expensive horse, this never would have happened !
You silly free-loading fool, go cash your entitlement check.
You’re welcome !
Comment by Elephant Stone (65d289) — 9/12/2012 @ 6:48 am
Obama wiped out Al Queda? Crink you are as brazen a liar as Obama or as senile as Biden.
Comment by SPQR (c33949) — 9/12/2012 @ 6:49 am
The last time an American ambassador was killed was in Afghanistan, in 1979.
Who was POTUS in 1979?
Oh yes, that’s right — a future Nobel Peace Prize Laureate that don’t like him no Jooos, and as a result allows Muslim extremists to middle-finger us at will.
History, meet President Ignorant Of, Doomed To Repeat.
Comment by Icy (594cb6) — 9/12/2012 @ 7:12 am
I thought an attack on an embassy was considered an act of war.
IMO, if Egypt or Libya say they could not control their own people (maybe they can’t), then they need to be considered to be failed states without a central government, like Somalia, and US interests, including aid to Egypt, withdrawn.
Comment by MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 9/12/2012 @ 7:26 am
Even outside the embassy, an ambassador is sacred. Hillary is an embaressment. Just like the magical Kenyan.
Comment by nk (875f57) — 9/12/2012 @ 7:37 am
The Obama administration is disavowing a statement from its own Cairo embassy that apologized for anti-Muslim activity in the United States.
“The statement by Embassy Cairo was not cleared by Washington and does not reflect the views of the United States government,” a senior administration official told POLITICO.
The U.S. Embassy has deleted the tweet in which it affirmed its apology.
– The ONLY reason why this retraction took place is because of the deaths at the embassy in Libya. Anyone disagree?
Comment by Icy (594cb6) — 9/12/2012 @ 7:38 am
When I heard that an embassy worker had been killed in the attack, I was pissed.
When I hear that it was our ambassador…
It hurts me. To put frankly, it makes me want to burn their whole f*cking country to the ground.
Comment by Leviticus (cd2e4b) — 9/12/2012 @ 8:36 am
This is one of the two really horrible things about this situation: if Obama does what he should do, and drops the hammer on Libya, he’ll only be doing it to avoid devastating campaign ads from Romney.
“The last temptation is the greatest treason/
to do the right thing for the wrong reason.”
I really hate politicians.
Comment by Leviticus (cd2e4b) — 9/12/2012 @ 8:39 am
The Arab Spring (an email to some friends):
H/T- Instapundit
“THIS IS TURNING OUT WORSE THAN CARTER: U.S. Ambassador To Libya Killed In Benghazi Attack. That whole Arab Spring thing is looking kinda overrated….
Prof. Stephen Clark writes: “While the responsibility for our lack of credibility in the greater middle east rests with Obama, let’s not forget that our middle east foreign policy is the product of Hillary Clinton, Susan Rice, Samantha Power and others who share their views. These past four years do not reflect well upon their judgment: something to bear in mind when talk of a Hillary Clinton presidency arises.”
SARAH PALIN: “Apparently President Obama can’t see Egypt and Libya from his house.”
TWEET OF THE DAY: “This presidency started with an apology in Cairo & looks like its ending with an apology in Cairo.”
“SMART DIPLOMACY” (CONT’D): US Embassy in Cairo quietly deletes its ‘we stand by our apology’ tweet.”
Morons!
I vividly remember the days and nights of The Hostage Crisis, in 1979 & 1980. If one of the media nets starts a show comparable to Ted Koppel’s “America Held Hostage” routine, reminding the people night after night of the incompetence of this White House in its foreign policy, Obama will be lucky to leave the WH in a Marine 6X, let alone the chopper.
Comment by AD-Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! (b8ab92) — 9/12/2012 @ 9:08 am
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At the symbolic core of this is the fact — the unbelievable fact — that no less than a part of the US military, in effect, looked the other way (and acted not much better than the ludicrously politically-correct original statement out of the White House and the follow-up from Hillary Clinton) as the ravings and rantings of US Army enlistee Nidal Hasan were tolerated by military personnel until the day of the Fort Hood massacre.
Do-gooder, naive, I’m-okay-you’re-okay sentiments infuse so much of modern Western society, and it will meet head-on with nations devoted to a religion founded by a person who happily assassinated those who merely mocked him.
BTW, there are reports the US embassy in Libya wasn’t protected by even a few troops from the US military, that the whole situation perhaps was infused with the kum-ba-yah thinking of “the Libyans are now our friends and we can trust them!!”
Comment by Mark (5a66fe) — 9/12/2012 @ 9:21 am
This is far from over. Christiane Amanpour just told George Step. that while we honor freedom of speech in this country there is also the limit to it of “crying fire in a crowded theatre” which was upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court. So I guess this “provocative” film has found its meme in the media. And blame has now been firmly decided and placed for the inflamed mid east, the mobs, the American deaths and any murders still to come. And…that damn internet where it’s just so easy to “put stuff out there” that offends.
Disgusting.
Comment by elissa (6d0f18) — 9/12/2012 @ 9:25 am
Mark, it was the Consulate in Benghazi, not the Embassy in Tripoli. The Marines were probably detailed to protect the Ambassador in his visit to that consulate, along with the PIO in the party.
I can only hope that those two Marines allowed more than a few of the demonstrators to meet their virgins.
Comment by AD-Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! (b8ab92) — 9/12/2012 @ 9:33 am
Let’s agree these embassy attacks were brought on by Obama spiking the football about OBL last week.
So, should Biden maybe apologize for saying over and over “Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive”? Or at least change it to include the American ambassador to Libya?
What is more likely, that a pissant preacher set them off, or the massively televised Democrat convention? They knew this was coming on 9/11, at least in Egypt, and they seem to have their story prepared.
Comment by Kevin M (bf8ad7) — 9/12/2012 @ 9:37 am
Maybe more NASA outreach could have prevented these situations.
Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 9/12/2012 @ 9:38 am
____________________________________________
National Review is reporting tonight,
A statement issued by the White House this evening denied claims that President Obama had refused to meet with Israel’s prime minister, Bibi Netenyahu.
It’s disturbing when I find myself immediately giving the benefit of the doubt to those running a foreign country than those in charge of the top political office in the US. However, I did see earlier reports that the conflict in scheduling applied only to when one leader was going to be in New York at the UN, while the other one would arrive later, and thought, “oh, an understandable problem in coordinating everyone’s schedules.” But I should have known better.
Comment by Mark (5a66fe) — 9/12/2012 @ 9:41 am
I’ll go with 9/14 over 10/14
Rosh Hashanah is 9/16. Yom Kippur 9/25. Don’t know if that means no or yes, but two more data points.
Comment by Kevin M (bf8ad7) — 9/12/2012 @ 9:44 am
_________________________________________
it was the Consulate in Benghazi, not the Embassy in Tripoli
I guess in a way that’s both worse and better. Better in that it doesn’t cast doubt on the US’s ability to properly secure its main political hub of interests in Libya. But also worse in that I’d think there would be a sense the hinterlands of Libya are full of Mad-Max type terrain and potentially very hostile and dangerous, and we’d plan accordingly.
Comment by Mark (5a66fe) — 9/12/2012 @ 9:48 am
Obama went into Libya (and further distabilized it) without any congressional authority or an after plan, then crowed. Apparently only Libyan security forces were guarding the Consulate, grounds, and the American officials on the anniversary of 9/11. But hey!..look over there.. that film!!!!
And now the media is criticizing Mitt for having the audacity to speak out and break some sacred “protocol” by challenging the Obama admin’s approach to foreign affairs and “trying to make the tragedy political”. Were any of these cretins alive and awake during the Bush administration which was a never ending drumbeat of criticism of his foreign policy from the left?
This is a moment that absolutely calls for Newt to opine. I hope he does.
Comment by elissa (6d0f18) — 9/12/2012 @ 9:58 am
87. D’oh.
Wonder how the leftists at State feel about human sacrifice?
http://minx.cc/?post=332802
Comment by gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 9/12/2012 @ 10:10 am
87. D’oh.
Wonder how the leftists at State feel about human sacrifice?
http://minx.cc/?post=332802
Comment by gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 9/12/2012 @ 10:10 am
Elissa – the Left and the MFM are craven and brazen.
Comment by JD (16fdce) — 9/12/2012 @ 10:11 am
Elissa – the Obama camp atta mes Romney for denouncing an apology that they ultimately denounced as well, and did so prior to condemning the acts of. Iolence in Egypt and Libya.
Comment by JD (16fdce) — 9/12/2012 @ 10:14 am
From President Obama’s statement this morning:
“While the United States rejects efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others, we must all unequivocally oppose the kind of senseless violence that took the lives of these public servants.”
For some reason he seems to accept the narrative that the rioting and rioting were due to some purported movie proposal rather than him spiking the football over Osama bin Laden’s death or the Anniversary of 9/11, but does not issue any support for the constitutional principles of America.
Feckless putz.
Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 9/12/2012 @ 10:17 am
Personally, if the “Arab Street” wants to live in the 7th-8th-9th Century (whatever), let them:
Remove all of our personnel, close the embassies and consulates/etc, freeze all of their assets within the USA, and embargo all trade with them.
If Carter had been a tad less feckless, we wouldn’t be having these problems today.
It has been said that The Hostages were released the day of Reagan’s Inauguration because the Mullahs were terrified that RR would use them as an excuse to attack Iran.
That kind of “terror” has always worked diplomatically.
Comment by AD-Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! (b8ab92) — 9/12/2012 @ 10:17 am
According to the White House calendar, there is no public record of President Barack Obama attending his daily intelligence briefing–known as the Presidential Daily Brief (PDB)–in the week leading up to the attacks on the U.S. embassy in Cairo and the murder of U.S. Libyan Ambassador Chris Stevens and three American members of his staff: Breitbart.
Nah, no reason at all for the president to be bothered to look in on Intelligence or ask questions about special security preparedness in the week leading up to the 9/11 anniversary date.
There’s a re-election to secure and cash to be raised!!
Comment by elissa (6d0f18) — 9/12/2012 @ 10:18 am
95- more…..
We’ve seen how well the ReSet is working for the WonderGirls running the Foreign Policy of this Administration: Hillary, Rice, Jarret.
None of them could find their a$$e$ with both hands. But, to their credit, the sometimes appear to have ball$, unlike their leader who seems to lose his on the golf course.
Comment by AD-Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! (b8ab92) — 9/12/2012 @ 10:22 am
Maybe Obama wants the US to be more like Europe so that he can be like European presidents and have all the trappings and none of the work.
Comment by Kevin M (bf8ad7) — 9/12/2012 @ 10:22 am
elissa, he’s focused on the next set of fund-raisers in Las Vegas – that city that Federal employees are not supposed to partake of.
Comment by AD-Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! (b8ab92) — 9/12/2012 @ 10:23 am
97. Standing shoulder to shoulder with Apologist in Chief, Hill has a look resistant to Geritol.
I think the clock will run out on the Clinton’s.
Comment by gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 9/12/2012 @ 10:46 am
_______________________________________
From President Obama’s statement this morning:
While the United States rejects efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others, we must all unequivocally oppose the kind of senseless violence that took the lives of these public servants.
Comment by daleyrocks — 9/12/2012 @ 10:12 am
^ This deserves to be inserted into this thread because it merely verifies that Barry (and his administration) truly create lies within lies. The original statement about what took place in Egypt apparently did honestly reflect the sentiments of Obama/Clinton, yet the White House tried to backtrack by claiming the wording wasn’t formally approved. Yea, right.
Similar to when they recently claimed that Obama wasn’t aware that the Democrat Party’s platform had been changed (much less his prodding for such a change) to remove the words “God” and the specific designation of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital.
When they’re caught red-handed acting like the typical ultra-liberals that they really are, they at first try to distract and deny. But they’re so transparently of the left — transparently very leftwing — they ultimately end up making themselves look just as bad in the long run as they look at the beginning.
BTW, since people of Obama’s ilk think they’re imbued with such compassionate, humane qualities, this is a hint into what really is below the surface:
Comment by Mark (5a66fe) — 9/12/2012 @ 10:48 am
Franklin Pierce, and James Buchanan, have been saved from being known as the worst President in U.S. history.
Comment by AD-Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! (b8ab92) — 9/12/2012 @ 10:59 am
A comparatively honest government gets a shock and reports same:
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2012/09/canadian-exports-collapse-expect-plunge.html
Comment by gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 9/12/2012 @ 11:04 am
Russian Warships used as backdrop during DNC “salute to veterans” at convention.
http://www.navytimes.com/mobile/news/2012/09/navy-russian-warships-displayed-dnc-veterans-tribute-091112
Comment by elissa (6d0f18) — 9/12/2012 @ 11:07 am
gg, this is just a prelude to what can, and might, happen here as the world’s economy slowly contracts from the double-dip, and prepares for the Wiemar-style raging inflation that all of the Quantitative Easing’s will bring us.
elissa, words escape me, but what else could you expect from a bunch that have denounced the U.S. Military for 50-years. Most of them wouldn’t know a U.S. Navy ship if an Iowa-class Battleship was parked on their front lawn.
Comment by AD-Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! (b8ab92) — 9/12/2012 @ 11:38 am
I really hate Jihadists.
Comment by Elephant Stone (65d289) — 9/12/2012 @ 11:56 am
“Obama went into Libya (and further distabilized it) without any congressional authority or an after plan, then crowed. Apparently only Libyan security forces were guarding the Consulate, grounds, and the American officials on the anniversary of 9/11. But hey!..look over there.. that film!!!!”
elissa – The solution is obvious. Obama needs to restrict the free speech rights of Americans as well as their rights to practice religion as they wish in order to appease radical Islamists in other countries. Plus he needs to further publicize his support for gays serving in the military and gay marriage, because that does not rile up radical Islamists at all.
Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 9/12/2012 @ 12:01 pm
This is starting to look like Jimmy Cartier circa 1980. Eerie. Unfortunately, Romney is no Gipper. But he will have to do.
Comment by Bored Lawyer (a0043c) — 9/12/2012 @ 12:02 pm
As I have consistently said, everybody overseas has the right not to be offended by the stupid, insensitive, colonial era remarks of arrogant Americans. It’s in the Constitution or something, you idiots.
Barack H. Obama, Constitutional Scholar
Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 9/12/2012 @ 12:06 pm
“^ This deserves to be inserted into this thread because it merely verifies that Barry (and his administration) truly create lies within lies. The original statement about what took place in Egypt apparently did honestly reflect the sentiments of Obama/Clinton, yet the White House tried to backtrack by claiming the wording wasn’t formally approved. Yea, right.”
Mark – That skirt Terry Jones was wearing was too short!
Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 9/12/2012 @ 12:12 pm
Leaving aside the fact that leftists trip all over themselves to offend Christians by demanding we subsidize insulting imagery and call it art, that they’re shredding the First Amendment and demanding Christian denominations, the ones that haven’t abandoned their theology to instead serve the almighty government, violate their most sacred tenets concerning the sanctity of life, and that they’re making derogatory comments as well as documentaries about Romney’s Mormonism, what about the Copts?
Has this administration even once condemned the violence perpetrated against the Copts in Egypt with the blessing of the Muslim Brotherhood-led government?
No, to cover for the Islamists and in order to perpetrate a fraud on the American people Obama had his DoS instead remove the sections on religious liberty and persecution from their Country Reports on Human Rights.
So the USG could avoid mentioning the religiously motivated atrocities these Salafists and Al Qaeda sympathizers are perpetrating against religious minorities.
Obama has never dealt in any realistic way with the world as it is. That’s why he couldn’t respond for, what was it, over a week to Iran’s Green Revolution after Ahmadinejad stole the election? His first instinct, also his last instinct, and his default position for the rest of his life as he is incapable of learning, is to offer to give anti-American dictators and demagogues a tongue bath and lecture the rest of us on the legitimacy of their grievances.
Our allies he’ll depose in order to satisfy our enemies. I’ll Constitution he’ll condemn in order to satisfy our enemies. But the real bottom line is that he’ll never give up his fantasies about how the US brings this upon itself, and will in kneejerk fashion agree with our enemies’ justifications for their attacks against us.
Recall his talk about “root causes” after 9/11. He still views the world in the infantile fashion his mother and a succession of Marxist mentors and professors have taught him to look at it. Even when it’s patently ridiculous. Can anyone possibly believe that the crowds that attacked our embassies on the anniversary of 9/11 because they were spontaneously enraged over a YouTube video? That’s insane. The people who coordinated this show of solidarity with Al Qaeda on the anniversary of their attack on the WTC (the ones who were dancing in the streets when it happened) may have used the video to augment the crowd. But if it wasn’t that, they would have used something else even if they had to fabricate it themselves (like that Imam who planted the ashes of the pages of the Koran on that illiterate Christian girl in Pakistan) to enrage the crowd.
It’s an oldie but a goodie, and hardly from a right-wing rag:
The New Republic – The Multitudinous Disasters Of The Obama Administration. Here: On Syria And Iran
(We can add Egypt, Libya, and soon Israel to this list of foreign policy disasters as he is intent on engineering a train wreck rather than abandon his delusions.)
This is from March 2010. Obama’s pathetic, catastrophic foreign policy has been a long time in the making. Mostly because he is unable to recognize his own incompetence and ignorance, and instead places totally undeserved faith in his non-existent competence. He actually believes his name and skin color add up to a “new tone.”
Well it is a new tone. And it is break from the Bush administration. They were afraid of Bush. They have nothing but contempt for Obama.
As I said earlier, and as Barry Rubin pointed out in his article over 2 years ago, that article wasn’t only just about Syria and Iran. It was about the debacle that is Obama’s foreign policy. This administration has consistently, whenever the evidence conflicts with their preferred narrative, rejected the evidence in favor of their fantasies. The fruits of that policy were on display yesterday.
We have got to get rid of this disaster we have stumbling around inside the WH (clearly a euphemism; he primarily stumbles around the golf course).
Comment by Steve57 (b2dac8) — 9/12/2012 @ 12:14 pm
In case I wasn’t clear, I mentioned the Copts because it is clear to everyone worldwide that Obama’s claimed rejection of offending people’s religious sensibilities is an obvious sham. No one believes it.
Certainly not Catholics, Evangelicals, and Mormons inside the borders of the US. Certainly not the Islamists who he coddles abroad, or persecuted Christian minorities who he ignores.
He has demonstrated cowardice in the face of Islamist violence. That’s it. That’s why he and his embassy issued those pathetic statements, bleating as if they were standing up for a principle instead of doing exactly what they were expected to do. Abandon principle out of sheer terror of the consequences they’d have to face if they upheld principle.
Comment by Steve57 (b2dac8) — 9/12/2012 @ 12:19 pm
Steve57 – Nice Sammy size walls of text.
Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 9/12/2012 @ 12:21 pm
Up is Down, Left is Right, and we’ve always been at war with Eastasia!
Comment by AD-Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! (b8ab92) — 9/12/2012 @ 12:23 pm
Yes, it is daley, but it is intelligible.
Comment by AD-Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! (b8ab92) — 9/12/2012 @ 12:24 pm
“Yes, it is daley, but it is intelligible.”
AD – Yes it is intelligible.
Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 9/12/2012 @ 12:26 pm
Steve57 – Sorry for my comment above. Just crabby today.
Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 9/12/2012 @ 12:33 pm
Reading a lot of SF will kind of do that to you.
BTW, anyone seen The Comatose One?
And, is sleeeepy and “Caley” over at Powerline the same commenter?
Comment by AD-Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! (b8ab92) — 9/12/2012 @ 12:35 pm
118 both could be dnc’s debbie wasserman schultz sockpuppets. Check out the plethora of libtards at Althouse commenting on the wonderfulness of Choom.
Comment by calypso louis farrakhan (aff299) — 9/12/2012 @ 1:07 pm
Apologizing for American values never gets old for President Obama.
Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 9/12/2012 @ 1:09 pm
daley–there is a lot to feel crabby about today. You are not alone, believe me.
Comment by elissa (6d0f18) — 9/12/2012 @ 1:14 pm
It’s OK, I’m crabby today, too. Well, more appalled, disgusted, and P.O.’d. But crabby as well.
Which explains the long post, I guess. Obama’s been inviting exactly this kind of crap for a long time. I guess I went a little long in describing exactly what a dangerous fool that idiot is; the history of his leftist lunacy.
Comment by Steve57 (b2dac8) — 9/12/2012 @ 1:29 pm
:wanders off, mumbling to himself an old poem, and wondering if 0 has ever even heard of it:
There’s a widow in sleepy Chester
Who weeps for her only son;
There’s a grave on the Pabeng River,
A grave that the Burmans shun;
And there’s Subadar Prag Tewarri
Who tells how the work was done. …
Comment by htom (412a17) — 9/12/2012 @ 1:33 pm
The MFM is in full on cover mode today.
Comment by JD (16fdce) — 9/12/2012 @ 1:41 pm
R.e. Mark’s post @ #86, does anyone who isn’t in a coma believe the WH denial that Netanyahu didn’t request a meeting with the President while he’s going to be visiting the country?
This President, the man who personally chose DWS to head the DNC because she is a brazen, unrepentant liar who is beyond shame and has no conscience?
I believe I called it during the Democratic convention, when DWS lied about what the ambassador of Israel didn’t tell her about the GOP. That these clueless, feckless amateur’s were threatening not only Israel’s security but our interests which were already hanging by a thread in that embattled region.
They are incapable of dealing with reality. They not only can’t comprehend reality, they don’t even think it’s important to try. This is why Obama doesn’t attend his intel briefings. There’s nothing our intelligence agencies can teach him. Mommy told him that third world revolutionaries are really, deep down, socialists upset about income inequality, first world economic imperialism, and the lack of quality child care and “reproductive health services” for women. Then his Marxist mentors and professors told him mommy was right.
So we’ve got the freshman class of 1980, which has learned nothing in the past 30 years, running the show according to their worldview as set in stone at their pot-fueled bull sessions in their dorms.
And lo and behold, a week later two embassies are assaulted and an ambassador and two Marines killed.
I don’t want to write another wall-O-text comment; suffice it to say the full measure of my scorn is not contained in this comment.
Comment by Steve57 (b2dac8) — 9/12/2012 @ 1:45 pm
R.e. Mark’s post @ #86, does anyone who isn’t in a coma believe the WH denial that Netanyahu didn’t request a meeting with the President while he’s going to be visiting the country?
I don’t believe their denial.
Comment by JD (16fdce) — 9/12/2012 @ 1:53 pm
And of course chucky azzhole johnson at LGF has his talking points now attacking Romney’s response. Those lizards who fellate johnson and obama are naturally aghast at Romney. Apparently gloating about a 2008 McCain report on Romney that states Mitt’s foreign policy experience is thin. Naturally the greatest President evah is so masterful in his negotiations. Closing the barn door now by adding security staff at embassies? Oh yes, how dare Romney politicize 911? Anyway I don’t see the Obama Biden bumper stickers the way I once did but Romney ones are nonexistent around here. Of course the gays are standing firm for Urkel as are the clueless old hags who fear losing abortion rights, even though they are way too old and coyote ugly.
Comment by Calypso Louis Farrakhan (e799d8) — 9/12/2012 @ 1:56 pm
Steve57, the hallmark of Progressives is that they ignore reality in favor of their fevered vision of the way things should be.
It all boils down to how they cannot deal in facts, only in emotions.
Comment by AD-Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! (b8ab92) — 9/12/2012 @ 2:01 pm
AD, they can’t even really deal in emotions.
Greed, hate, and envy, yes.
And, as the Obama administration is demonstrating with its groveling, fear.
Nothing nobler. Which is why they have to do things such as, to pick one example, substitute their willingness to steal from other people and redistribute the proceeds after taking their cut for “charity.”
Comment by Steve57 (b2dac8) — 9/12/2012 @ 2:10 pm
Steve57–to daley’s original point, just try to be aware that not everyone is leisurely sitting at their home computer with a cup o’ joe and a dog at their feet. Many of us try to catch up on threads and comments using mobile devices on the go– stuck in traffic, while enduring drone-on conferences, waiting for appointments, or in the office in breaks between client or employee meetings. The lengthy posts, as good as they are, sometimes are just too long and involved for the stolen time that is available to read and absorb them. Often they prolly get passed over with the full intent to go back and read them later, but sometimes it just doesn’t get done. Please don’t take this as criticism of your compositions, but rather as a suggestion to break out your thoughtful posts into smaller point chunks whenever possible if you can do it without losing your mojo.
Comment by elissa (6d0f18) — 9/12/2012 @ 2:12 pm
“While the United States rejects efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others”
Clearly radical Islamists in the Middle East are not upset about Democrats bragging about shooting Osama bin Laden in the face at last week’s Vagina Monlogues. Killing Americans has become the traditional way for radical Muslims to celebrate 9/11. The real story is Mitt Romney’s statement about the statement by the U.S. Embassy in Cairo, which was issued after the embassy was stormed.
“Denigrating the religious beliefs of others will not be tolerated by this administration and these incidents are entirely the fault of that crazy Mormon candidate for president who causes cancer and put his dog on the roof of his car. No questions, please.”
Barack H. Obama, Constitutional Scholar
Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 9/12/2012 @ 2:21 pm
what does “rejecting efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others” actually involve in real life I wonder
Chris Stevens was not available for comment
Comment by happyfeet (5e4920) — 9/12/2012 @ 2:27 pm
Governor Romney seems to have a tendency to shoot first and aim later
whereas Obama’s America seems to have a tendency to grovel first and whine like a slapped bitch later
I stand with Governor Romney
Comment by happyfeet (5e4920) — 9/12/2012 @ 2:39 pm
It is more important to demagogue Romney’s accurate criticism of the statement from Obama’s embassy, one they later doubled down on, that to discuss another abject failure and tragedy of Bambi’s feckless admin. And Pastor Jones.
Comment by JD (16fdce) — 9/12/2012 @ 2:54 pm
“what does “rejecting efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others” actually involve in real life I wonder”
Mr. Feets – It means smacking down the Catoliks what objek to the contraception mandate in Obamacare I think.
Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 9/12/2012 @ 2:57 pm
Collection of statements on the Cairo and Benghazi attacks (NYTimes)
The statement by the U.S. Embassy in Cairo apparently referring to the Terry Jones anti-Islam video, was released before any attacks had materialized. It was reaffirmed by a tweet after the attack, but later disavowed (or replaced) in Washington, pretty much simultaneously with the Romney criticism that the first response was not to condemn the attacks but to sympathize with the attackers.
Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said at 10:08 p.m. Eastern time Sept 11, 2012 that one American diplomat had been killed in the attack on the consulate in Benghazi, Libya – at 7:22 am this morning it was announced that FOUR Americans had been killed, including the Ambassador to Libya.
Comment by Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 9/12/2012 @ 3:00 pm
isn’t it rich? are we a pair
me on the ground,you in mid-air
Where are the clowns?
Isn’t it bliss? don’t you approve?
one who keeps tearing around, one who can’t move
Where are the clowns? Send in the clowns
Comment by pdbuttons (09ad71) — 9/12/2012 @ 3:01 pm
Hillary Rodham Clinton’s televised statement troday:
http://www.nytimes.com/video/2012/09/12/us/politics/100000001778770/secretary-clintons-statement-on-libya.html?ref=politics
President Obama’s statement and press conference:
http://www.nytimes.com/video/2012/09/12/us/politics/100000001778825/president-obamas-statement-on-libya.html
No question, the United States was taken by surprise by something that was almost certainly a planned attack.
Comment by Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 9/12/2012 @ 3:04 pm
mr. buttons!
Comment by happyfeet (5e4920) — 9/12/2012 @ 3:04 pm
hey please stop killing our mans we’re really sorry about that movie
Comment by happyfeet (5e4920) — 9/12/2012 @ 3:04 pm
Obama says Chris Jones helped save the city of Benghazi. Sect Clinton and Obama relied heavily on his knowledge.
(Nobody is saving Aleppo, Syria, though)
Comment by Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 9/12/2012 @ 3:05 pm
105. Indeed, QE2 ran Egyptians cost of food up 50% and low and behold, Arab Spring.
Now tourism is dead and social welfare payments months in arrears.
Has drought even run up prices yet? And Draghi is about to guarantee interest on Spainish and Italian debt at some cap the new floor for EU debt.
Redundant seat belts and roll bars ready.
Comment by gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 9/12/2012 @ 3:06 pm
86. No good, Obama telling a flat out lie. If Netanyahu says he requested a meeting, then he requested a meeting. Why would he lie about that?
It probably depends on what the meaning of the word “request” is.
There was maybe not an official letter maybe.
Comment by Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 9/12/2012 @ 3:08 pm
What Biden said was bittersweet was the anniversary, September 11, 2012.
It is obvious what he meant: Bitter because of the people killed, sweet because of the spirit of unity.
Yes, it still is sort of a dumb thing to say.
Comment by Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 9/12/2012 @ 3:10 pm
Imagine the wailing had Bush responded to an attack on an American embassy by flying off to a campaign fundraiser in Las Vegas.
Comment by JD (16fdce) — 9/12/2012 @ 3:29 pm
Pastor Jones should be imprisoned and charged with accessory to murder for posting clips of this Coptic Egyptian movie to YouTube.
Comment by JD (16fdce) — 9/12/2012 @ 3:33 pm
At 4 PM Cairo there was a preacher on TV calling on people to assemble.
This whole thing was planned, including the date of the premiere of the movie. But the movie itself in no way really cause it.
Did the militants know the Ambassadoor was in the embassy Almost certainly yes.
Some intelligence agency is working against the
U.S.
Some protests continuing in Egypt.
Comment by Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 9/12/2012 @ 3:35 pm
From a commenter at Gateway Pundit:
“The Libyans better apologize and find and punish those killers quickly. Or else Obama might get real mad and start tweeting in all caps.”
Comment by Dave Surls (46b08c) — 9/12/2012 @ 3:35 pm
Comment by JD — 9/12/2012 @ 3:33 pm
Pastor Jones should be imprisoned and charged with accessory to murder for posting clips of this Coptic Egyptian movie to YouTube
Only if it can be proven he did this in
co-ordination with the terrorists
Comment by Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 9/12/2012 @ 3:36 pm
141. That should have been Chris Stevens, not Jones.
Comment by Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 9/12/2012 @ 3:37 pm
Only if it can be proven he did this in
co-ordination with the terrorists
WTF?!?!?!
Comment by JD (16fdce) — 9/12/2012 @ 3:38 pm
Every network and cable news channel would run a split screen showing Bush getting off the plane in Vegas on one side, burning embassies on the other.
They’d be getting quotes from Amb. Stevens’ relatives about what a heartless ghoul Bush is for not suspending his campaign.
It’s racist to hold Obama to any sort of standard of competence, or even just a basic work ethic. He never showed up on Capitol Hill to act like a Senator while pocketing the paycheck and campaigning for President. Why should President Present start showing up for work now.
Like the guy who misses the vast majority of his intel briefings would have meaningful input. No wonder our embassies our issuing statements on their own, like each one is an independent franchise with its own unique foreign policy. No one is in charge.
As evidenced by the fact the Obama admin disavowed the Cairo embassy’s statement. Can you imagine any other administration excusing itself by proclaiming incompetence? Not even Carter would have done that.
SPQR is right; Obama serving out Carter’s second term is a best case scenario.
Comment by Steve57 (b2dac8) — 9/12/2012 @ 3:38 pm
new smears against Bush.
These are old smears., What they leave out is that NOBODY THOUGHT THE ATTACKS WOULD BE IN THE UNITED STATES!
Also, the August 6, 2001 briefing occured because of a question President Bush asked: What about an attack in the United Sattes? he was getting warned about posisble binb Laden attacks in all places in the world, but not teh United States.
Comment by Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 9/12/2012 @ 3:39 pm
The attack in Cairo looked rather amateurish, but the one in benghazi was much more planned. They probably were noth planned, but no strong advance planning had been done in Cairo.
Comment by Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 9/12/2012 @ 3:41 pm
Romney is even more amateurish than Obama.
Comment by Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 9/12/2012 @ 3:41 pm
What did Breitbart say?
Comment by Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 9/12/2012 @ 3:43 pm
Romney is even more amateurish than Obama.
Comment by Sammy Finkelman — 9/12/2012 @ 3:41 pm
WTF?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Comment by JD (16fdce) — 9/12/2012 @ 3:44 pm
Pastor Jones should be imprisoned and charged with accessory to murder for posting clips of this Coptic Egyptian movie to YouTube
SF: Only if it can be proven he did this in
co-ordination with the terrorists
Comment by JD — 9/12/2012 @ 3:38 pm
WTF?!?!?!
YES, OF COURSE.
This is not the first time he did something convenient and conveniently timed for enemies of the United States.
If, on the other hand, his intentions were not bad, he shouldn’t be bothered. In that case, they picked him out, they could have picked out something else.
And if the bad actor was not Pastor Jones, bnut some associate or adviserr he has, that that person should be arrested and charged with giving aid to terrorists..
The key point is: Did someone intend to give aid to terrorists.
Comment by Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 9/12/2012 @ 3:48 pm
RELEASE THE KRAKEN!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 9/12/2012 @ 3:51 pm
Posting clips of a movie to YouTube is giving aid to terrorists?!?!?!? Thanks to Obambi, Jones has been contacted twice, once by Sec Def, and once by the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs. Obambi has elevated this moron to international spokesperson levels of importance.
Comment by JD (16fdce) — 9/12/2012 @ 3:54 pm
So, should abortionists be held responsible for riling up wackjobs who bomb abortion clinics?
If someone gets all annoyed at “Piss Christ” and starts shooting artists at random, should the created of that artwork be jailed?
Comment by Kevin M (bf8ad7) — 9/12/2012 @ 4:00 pm
I hate spellcheck.
Comment by Kevin M (bf8ad7) — 9/12/2012 @ 4:00 pm
“I hate spellcheck.”
Me two!
Comment by Dave Surls (46b08c) — 9/12/2012 @ 4:02 pm
Sammy, you’ve officially gone of the deep end.
Muslims have demonstrated they can and will take offense at anything.
OBL issued his fatwas back in 1996 and ’98, and among his grievances was the loss of al Andalus.
Yup. The Spanish hurt precious Muslim feelings when they took their country back in the 15th century. They’ve never gotten over it.
You’re playing a fool’s game. Actually, you’re playing the Muslim Brotherhood’s game. These Islamofascists will take over a church to hide from Israeli security forces, use the Bible as toilet paper, desecrate the place, and nary a peep comes out of the leaders of the West or our exalted commentariat about the whole deal.
Some guy posts a YouTube video and all of a sudden the people who are all for giving the “old white men” of the RCC the back of their hand spew non-stop nonsense about respecting religious sensitivities.
Stop quivering in fear and tripping all over yourself to demonstrate that terrorism works, Sammy. You and the rest of your kind.
Comment by Steve57 (b2dac8) — 9/12/2012 @ 4:11 pm
Breaking News – Radical Muslims stage violent protest to protest being called violent.
Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 9/12/2012 @ 4:15 pm
JD –A private American citizen being (falsely) accused of inciting Islamic terrorists through an anti-Mohammad internet video is now the same thing as giving aid to terrorists in Sammy’s world and requires arrest? I think we have a very big failure to communicate here.
You know what this whole ridiculous meme reminds me of? The chronic wife beater who when the lady’s nursing her black eye and broken arm always tells her, “Well it was your own fault. You really pissed me off. I didn’t want to hit you but you forced me to punish you.
Comment by elissa (6d0f18) — 9/12/2012 @ 4:17 pm
Actually, there’s no evidence that the pastor in question even knew about the video until our embassies went up in flames. And the press, just like they tried to tie the Colorado theater shooting to a tea partier withe the same name as the shooter, tied that pastor to this.
He certainly had nothing to do with making the movie. And he didn’t post the video to YouTube. He did say, after the press informed him of the movie’s existence, that he’d hold a screening of it at his church.
And, no, this isn’t somehow an endorsement of the idea that the creator of the movie, and whoever posted it to YouTube, should be prosecuted.
I’m just pointing out just how unhinged from the facts the un-American, anti-American left is. What with their impulse to blame America first.
The Muslim Brotherhood has their number. And I’m giving the un-American anti-American left the benefit of the doubt when I don’t say the Muslim Brotherhood has their willing and active cooperation as fifth columnists. It’s not much doubt, considering how consistently they give the Islamists aid and succor, but for right now I’m content in just calling the left brain-dead dupes.
Comment by Steve57 (b2dac8) — 9/12/2012 @ 4:18 pm
if Pastor Jones hadn’t posted the clip then Obama would never have had to apologize to the muslims for all the icky free speech
Comment by happyfeet (5e4920) — 9/12/2012 @ 4:36 pm
Breaking News from the State Department desk… all life on Earth to end tomorrow, radical Muslims hit hardest.
Comment by Colonel Haiku (c48af0) — 9/12/2012 @ 4:38 pm
So now we learn there is no record of the supposed film director? It sure gets curiouser.
Comment by calypso louis farrakhan (a80db9) — 9/12/2012 @ 4:39 pm
No question, the United States was taken by surprise by something that was almost certainly a planned attack.
Maybe if Mr Obama attended his Intel briefings….
Comment by Kevin M (bf8ad7) — 9/12/2012 @ 4:42 pm
Breaking News
from the State Department desk…all life on Earth to endInternets denial of service tomorrow,radical Muslims hitSammy Finkelman hardest hit.Comment by Colonel Haiku (c48af0) — 9/12/2012 @ 4:43 pm
whoever posted it to YouTube, should be prosecuted
On what charge? Bad taste? Blasphemy? Counterproductivity? I just do not get it.
How about prosecuting all the reporters who incorrectly blamed this on Jones?
Comment by Kevin M (bf8ad7) — 9/12/2012 @ 4:47 pm
Oh, sorry Steve, misread that.
Comment by Kevin M (bf8ad7) — 9/12/2012 @ 4:49 pm
whoever posted it to YouTube, should be prosecuted
Absolute nonsense. Why do you hate freedom of speech?
Comment by JD (16fdce) — 9/12/2012 @ 4:49 pm
What do you want to bet that al qaeda made the video to use as a moron magnet?
Comment by Kevin M (bf8ad7) — 9/12/2012 @ 4:50 pm
Sammy Finkelman,
If a kid listens to some death metal music, and then goes and kills himself, would we go arrest the rock band ?
I mean, seriously.
Twenty years ago, when that kooky artist submerged a crucifix in a jar of urine, and entitled it, “Piss Christ,” Christians did not go out and murder people.
You’re just playing into the Marxist narrative that the people of the lower classes are not responsible for their own behavior; rather, their behavior is “forced” or “caused” by external factors, namely, rich people, bosses, property owners, bankers, white people, colonialists, imperialists, and Jews.
The Jihadists are not “caused” to go murder people—they do it of their own free will. Besides, it sounds like the attacks were planned in advance and the alleged film played no impetus.
Comment by Elephant Stone (65d289) — 9/12/2012 @ 4:52 pm
I think it was that all their camels were on the rag.
Comment by nk (875f57) — 9/12/2012 @ 4:56 pm
teh Bungler-in-Chief
teh media collusion
heh we are so screwed
Comment by Colonel Haiku (c48af0) — 9/12/2012 @ 4:57 pm
Remember when teh Mormons burned Broadway down for that “B00k of Mormon” musical? Sh*t happens!
Comment by Colonel Haiku (c48af0) — 9/12/2012 @ 5:00 pm
All obama has to say is FORE….
Comment by mg (44de53) — 9/12/2012 @ 5:03 pm
Well played, Colonel.
I remember fire-breathing Harry Reid, leading the parade of pitchforks, lighted torches, and shotguns right down the middle of the Vegas strip, chanting, “Stop the musical ! Now ! No justice, no peace !”
I wonder if such a “they caused me to do it !” defense would be successful at a strip club.
“But Officer Jones, I swear, she showed me her thingee, and I had no choice !”
Comment by Elephant Stone (65d289) — 9/12/2012 @ 5:11 pm
The trailer for this movie has been available on YouTube since July 2nd of this year and it was posted by the movie’s creator.
Not Pastor Jones.
Again, it isn’t at all clear that Jones had anything to do with this movie or even knew it existed until yesterday.
But that’s besides the point. On the anniversary of 9/11 al Qaeda sympathizers decided to celebrate the attack on the WTC and Pentagon in traditional style. Launching assaults on sovereign US soil and killing Americans.
Obama observed it in his traditional style. Apologizing for America.
Anyone who gets caught up in the publicly stated pretext for this, some “offense” given by a YouTube video that’s been available for over two months is either a fool or willfully blind to the realities of events in the ME.
There is no excuse for it. And no proper response than dealing with the perpetrators with angry resolve, and their apologists, enablers, and sympathizers in the west with disdain.
Comment by Steve57 (b2dac8) — 9/12/2012 @ 5:18 pm
“The tragedy in Benghazi that cost Ambassador Stevens his life unfortunately has been overshadowed by the desperate reach by Mitt Romney to secure political advantage.”
Crissy Mathews
Comment by JD (16fdce) — 9/12/2012 @ 5:25 pm
Wow… we lose 4 brave Americans to radical Islamists, President 0bama’s Middle East policies and “lead-from-behind” strategy partially collapses IN ONE DAY, our State Department and Cairo embassy apologizes for being attacked and all the media wants to frame this as is a Romney gaffe?
corksoakers!
Comment by Colonel Haiku (c48af0) — 9/12/2012 @ 5:28 pm
“Bitter clingers are bad, but do not denigrate the religious beliefs of those radical Islamists”
Barack H. Obama, Constitutional Scholar
Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 9/12/2012 @ 5:32 pm
“Twenty years ago, when that kooky artist submerged a crucifix in a jar of urine, and entitled it, “Piss Christ,” Christians did not go out and murder people.”
- Elephant Stone
That is a perfectly legitimate point, and I mean that seriously. Institutional Islam tolerates a flagrantly psychotic strain; until it cracks down on that strain, Institutional Islam can go f*ck itself.
Comment by Leviticus (cd2e4b) — 9/12/2012 @ 5:42 pm
Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others.
Constitutional Scholar of the United States.
Comment by JD (16fdce) — 9/12/2012 @ 5:45 pm
The media pull crap like Matthews because it works. This is a true actual conversation from this morning:
My boss: “Man, what a news day with that stuff going on in Libya and everywhere.”
Me: “Yeah. I can’t believe that happened on 9-11. It’s just terrible.”
My boss: “Yeah. Romney really stepped in it this time. Sometimes you just gotta know when to keep your mouth shut. (Laughs). How does this guy expect to get elected? (More laughter).”
Me: (Blank stare resembling a landed trout surprised at his situation).
Comment by Ag80 (b2c81f) — 9/12/2012 @ 5:45 pm
Steve57 has the right word: appalling. From all angles.
Comment by Leviticus (cd2e4b) — 9/12/2012 @ 5:45 pm
The station in Benghazi was not manned, no bullet proof glass, no guards, basic lock and key security, in a place that had been targeted before.
Comment by JD (16fdce) — 9/12/2012 @ 5:52 pm
“Republicans are waging a War on Women!”
- Chief Democrat Strategist Sandra “Ain’t Got $9″ Fluke
America is still conducting the
“War on Terror”“Overseas Contingency”…- teh Democrat Party
Comment by Colonel Haiku (fafa20) — 9/12/2012 @ 6:06 pm
9/11: AMERICANS KILLED IN LIBYA…
ATTACK ‘COORDINATED’…
CIA SAW NO THREATS…
FOR FIVE HOURS, NO ONE KNEW WHERE AMBASSADOR WAS…
BODY NOT RECOVERED FOR 12 HOURS…
OBAMA WENT TO SLEEP NOT KNOWING WHAT WAS HAPPENING THERE…
**WARNING** **GRAPHIC PHOTO**…
Romney campaign links attacks to failed Middle East policies…
White House gave ‘mixed signals’…
Marines Headed to Libya to Reinforce
Comment by JD (16fdce) — 9/12/2012 @ 6:10 pm
If the Kenyan buttboy … oh, forget it, it won’t.
Comment by nk (875f57) — 9/12/2012 @ 6:13 pm
#184 That would describe BHO’s entire 2008 Campaign against Bush and Iraq.
Comment by Rodney King's Spirit (aeda60) — 9/12/2012 @ 6:14 pm
Can you ever imagine the US Gov.t issuing this statement ….
“We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of Christians”
Comment by Rodney King's Spirit (aeda60) — 9/12/2012 @ 6:16 pm
US Embassy in Cairo …. second tweet justifying first statement ….
US Embassy Cairo @USEmbassyCairo 3) Sorry, but neither breaches of our compound or angry messages will dissuade us from defending freedom of speech AND criticizing bigotry
Problem is their first statement was actually chastising those who exercised free speech.
Comment by Rodney King's Spirit (aeda60) — 9/12/2012 @ 6:18 pm
#184… may teh next leg tingle travel upwards and explode his lizard heart!
Comment by Colonel Haiku (fafa20) — 9/12/2012 @ 6:19 pm
michellemalkin “I repeat: Romney faced the press. Obama fled to Vegas, no q’s allowed, only intvu tonite with Telemundo”
Comment by Colonel Haiku (fafa20) — 9/12/2012 @ 6:20 pm
The Book of Mormon
Bitter clingers
Dogma
Piss Christ
Comment by JD (16fdce) — 9/12/2012 @ 6:21 pm
How many Cairo Embassy or State Department workers went to see “The Book of Mormon” and enjoyed it? LOLOLOLOLOLOLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I saw it and found it offensive. I did not however riot or kill anyone.
Ahhhh, the rich and textured tapestry of leftie hypocrisy!
Comment by Rodney King's Spirit (aeda60) — 9/12/2012 @ 6:24 pm
Obama’s trying to look tough on Libya and he just looks more ineffectual and Jimmy-Carter-Lite.
Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 9/12/2012 @ 6:30 pm
#202 Obama in Vegas fund raising.
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About all you need to know how serious Barry takes this.
Comment by Rodney King's Spirit (aeda60) — 9/12/2012 @ 6:31 pm
193 Dennis Miller went off on subject of Sandra Fluke. As a spokesperson for the democrats, shouldn’t her actions and beliefs be looked into? I get it that they want taxpayers to pay for all their sex-related crap. If they don’t want the government in their bedrooms, then why should government pay for their lifestyle choices?
I am curious as to why Ms. Fluke sponges off of everyone else. At age 31 she has money for European vacations, has a womyn’s group in California front $58k a year for her Georgetown Law expenses but we are told needs the rest of us to pay $3k for her birth control? Even though said control can be had for $9 a month or free at clinics or even the balless wonder she sleeps with could provide it.
Jay Leno brought up Republican war on women to which Miller took offense. He brought up the point later on assclown O’Reilly’s show that the real war on women is by Muslims and Leno’s own wife Mavis campaigns against the abominable way the Muslims treat women.
Speaking of bibles, I thought the Book of Eli just sucked, despite Denzel Washington.
Comment by Calypso Louis Farrakhan (e799d8) — 9/12/2012 @ 6:38 pm
michellemalkin ‘What a disgusting spectacle. Obama talking to Bieber-esque fanboys and fangirls about embassy murders while they scream “we love you.” ‘
I watched the clip… totally bloodless, apathetic mention of the atrocities committed the last two days and all these mindless nit-wits throwing love bombs at him. I fear for the future of my country.
Comment by Colonel Haiku (fafa20) — 9/12/2012 @ 6:40 pm
Comment by Steve57 — 9/12/2012 @ 5:18 pm
The trailer for this movie has been available on YouTube since July 2nd of this year and it was posted by the movie’s creator.
Not Pastor Jones.
It seems like he had a very limited role – maybe just endorsed it. He’s been described as a co-producer, but that may just be disinformation to disguise the fact that the movie may have no known or traceable origin or sponsor!
In fact, the movie may not even exist. It could be ONLY a trailer and that’s all there is.
It was supposedly now going to premiere. The producer was supposed to be a man called Sam Basile, but he may be a fake persona. He is supposed to be an Israeli Jew. On the other hand, Egyptian state run newspapers reported it was produced by U.S.-based Coptic Christians from Egypt.
In all probability, the trailer was part of the terrorist conspiracy, and they produced it.
Sam Basile supposedly went into hiding, but then more clearly, simply didn’t exist, being at least a fake name.
Comment by Sammy Finkelman (8c951a) — 9/12/2012 @ 6:44 pm
Obviously Islam is the “Abomination causing Desolation”, and specifically the Dome of the Rock its symbolic instantiation as such.
The ‘sacrifice in the vale of Hinnom’ signalling the arrival of the Israel’s tribulation might well be the passing of the Pali ninja’s thru their rings of fire.
How fitting the Dhimmicrats’ spokesmodel, insolent and arrogant in sum, has stoked the horde to hallucinations of power. Death cult will get their heart’s desire.
Comment by gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 9/12/2012 @ 7:05 pm
I don’t understand why this is a partisan issue.
Apparently a lot of people are so invested in the cult of Obama that they refuse to admit he can screw things up. Which is why I thought it was important to link to an article in one of my earlier comments by someone like Martin Peretz, writing for The New Republic.
He’s hardly a right-winger, and The New Republic is anything but a “neocon” echo chamber. But even the people who write and edit for that magazine recognized two years ago that Obama’s naive approach to foreign policy was a disaster in the making:
I know I’m largely repeating the same quotes I’ve used before, but these people (liberals!) were practically firing off flares to alert everyone of the foreseeable dangers of Obama’s approach to international affairs.
(I would respectfully submit that if someone like Peretz is willing to admit Obama’s instincts on foreign policy are “untutored,” it’s equally unwise to concede domestic policy expertise to someone who has no discernible claim in that area, either. But that’s an argument for another day.)
Can someone point me to any evidence Barack Obama thinks it’s anything but a joke that he ought to be advocating for American interests abroad?
Again, I don’t even put Jimmy Carter in the same category as this guy. The rescue he attempted of our hostages in Tehran may have ended in disaster. But at least he tried. And the US military learned from it and increased its capabilities.
Comment by Steve57 (c8ac21) — 9/12/2012 @ 7:07 pm
How many times can we say “can it get any worse” and then watch as it does.
The media and dems go crazy because GWB takes the time to finish reading a story to children before excusing himself, and all they can do in reference to Obama ignoring an act of war is to attack Romney for having the nerve to say something and “make it political”.
I hope America survives long enough for the current media elites to reap the scorn and disdain they so richly deserve. I would like to see a Breitbart.com or James O’Keefe confrontation of a few of these folks and asking them what the h— is wrong with them.
Comment by MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 9/12/2012 @ 7:11 pm
Media apparently got wrong how the Ambassador was killed. He was not dragged into a crowd, with his body paraded around afterward. Was that someone else? Did it happen at all?
His car was attacked by mortars and rocket-propelled grenades. He was taken to a hospital, where he died one and a half hours later, of smoke inhalation and other injuries. (?)
Comment by Sammy Finkelman (8c951a) — 9/12/2012 @ 7:13 pm
The one thinks America should not have the ability to “push around other nations”. It’s like his thinking (at the gas rise under Bush) gas prices should be higher, but he would have had them go up not so rapidly. He doesn’t mind the US being toothless in world affairs, he just thinks it shouldn’t have been quite so obvious and messy prior to his reelection.
I will be happy to apologize if the one shows convincing evidence this is not true.
Comment by MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 9/12/2012 @ 7:17 pm
208. “any evidence Barack Obama thinks it’s anything but a joke”?
None, D’Souza’s anticolonialism is just another applique on a congenital fraud’s psyche.
He’s the quintessential ‘wise guy’, playing everyone, even Malia and Sasha. His serious, ideologue cons, e.g., seeking unity and profit for Islam, are no different than the bald-faced lies posturing interest in America’s benefit.
Comment by gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 9/12/2012 @ 7:20 pm
3 Obama is said to attend only 43% of the daily NSA briefings.
Q. Who are they for? Are they duplicative (updates) ? What did Bush do? If he missed something, is he informed later?
Comment by Sammy Finkelman (8c951a) — 9/12/2012 @ 7:20 pm
Now that Teh Won gas sprinted away from the statements issued by the Cairo embassy, how is there even an iota of daylight between his criticism, and Romney’s?
The MFM sucks goat testicles.
Comment by JD (16fdce) — 9/12/2012 @ 7:22 pm
No self-respecting goat would ever allow that.
Comment by AD-Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! (2bb434) — 9/12/2012 @ 7:23 pm
Doc, you’ll be spared the apology. It’s a dead certainty.
Obama has denounced Romney and his other critics more forcefully than his kindred spirits storming the US embassies.
There are certain things President Vegas Fundraiser doesn’t have in him. Proving you wrong is one of them.
We already know who the real terrorists are in the Obama administration’s estimation: secured Chrysler creditors.
Comment by Steve57 (c8ac21) — 9/12/2012 @ 7:25 pm
210. That he died in hospital is no impediment to his corpse being dragged thru the streets.
Muslims have zero respect for mercy givers, Europe is having a terrible time. I think recently in the Netherlands 70 assailants entered an ER to finish the job on an adversary the’d shot.
Only the heroics of a couple guards, drawing their weapons saved the cur.
Comment by gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 9/12/2012 @ 7:26 pm
Comment by Sammy Finkelman — 9/12/2012 @ 7:13 pm
There are pictures on the web, for example at PowerLine, that supposedly show the body (dead or alive?) of the Ambassador being handled in a rough manner in the midst of a crowd. His body should have already been in US custody by now.
Comment by MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 9/12/2012 @ 7:26 pm
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I hope America survives long enough for the current media elites to reap the scorn and disdain they so richly deserve.
I have a hard time envisioning what things would be like today were it not for the Internet, for alternative, convenient sources like the drudgereport.com, hotair.com, breitbart.com — not to mention google.com — and message boards like this one where issues can be hashed out among a variety of viewpoints. I realize how ignorant I would have been in the past, when everyone was dependent on basically the 3 big TV networks and various print publications.
Bias in the MSM has long been known, but it wouldn’t be so blatantly apparent and hard to conceal without click-of-the-mouse access to sources of information that didn’t exist before the era of the personal computer.
If the age of electronic communication helps speed up the demise of the monopoly (or outright existence) of the traditional media — the print media in particular — then that truly will be symbolically appropriate and a case of just desserts.
Comment by Mark (5a66fe) — 9/12/2012 @ 7:27 pm
Where to begin?
1. They are not NSA briefings. NSA is just one of the many agencies that contribute to the fused intelligence that makes up the President’s daily intelligence update.
2. Who are they for? For the President. And the briefers, so they know what the President’s priorities are. Which is impossible for them to determine if the President blows them off consistently. Or, rather, the only thing they can conclude is that the President’s priorities are the golf course and campaigning.
3. Bush didn’t miss them except on very, very rare occasions. If he was in DC, he had those briefings six days a week.
Comment by Steve57 (c8ac21) — 9/12/2012 @ 7:30 pm
The DNC uses a Russian warship as background image to a tribute to the US military, but their screwup was Romney’s fault of course, just as all of Obama’s screwups are Bush’s fault.
Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 9/12/2012 @ 7:33 pm
Doc, the media is trying to change the narrative to save Obama the embarrassment he richly deserves.
Now, they’re going to try to spin the story so that the people with cell phone cameras gripped in their teeth, the ones who shot up the car that was perfectly capable of hauling the ambassador to a hospital, were trying to “help” when they slung him over their shoulders like a side of beef and paraded him through the streets.
I guess the Somalis who stripped those Rangers of their clothing and gear back on the streets of Mogadishu were also trying to “help.”
After all, we all know that one should loosen the clothing of a person who loses consciousness.
It’s a stupid spin, but the most credulous amongst us will buy it. Just watch.
Comment by Steve57 (c8ac21) — 9/12/2012 @ 7:35 pm
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I don’t understand why this is a partisan issue.
A person would have to be a dyed-in-the-wool liberal/Democrat, an ultra-ultra-partisan and ultra-liberal, to not be blanching about Obama and this particular controversy and tragedy (the photo I’ve seen of the murdered ambassador is appalling).
I know that I was really irritated (and still am) when Romney kept insisting that the Olympics in London weren’t secured properly and ending up looking like a non-gracious guest. But that was child’s play, or innocuous, compared with the foot-in-mouth extremism or purposeful idiocy (or lunacy) of Obama.
Comment by Mark (5a66fe) — 9/12/2012 @ 7:38 pm
I think you are right, Steve. I was just pointing out that there is data to be observed that conflicts with the report Sammy was relaying.
Besides, if one was in a car hit by an RPG, I don’t think smoke inhalation would be the cause of death. For one thing, after the car flew into pieces the smoke would disperse.
Comment by MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 9/12/2012 @ 7:42 pm
For a brief period of time after 9/11 it seemed that some things, like national security, were more important than partisan politics. That did not last long and for some partisan politics are the most important thing. No matter what happens, if it doesn’t directly harm Obama physically, for some the greatest threat comes from conservatives who don’t want to see him re-elected, and they are the main enemy of those who want the fundamental transformation of America to continue. So the main war is partisan politics.
Comment by MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 9/12/2012 @ 7:47 pm
MD in Philly, the Democrats returned partisan politics to national security after 9/11 by a matter of mere days.
Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 9/12/2012 @ 7:52 pm
Steve57,
You nailed it…if only Barry Obama were as tough in speaking out against our nation’s enemies, as he is in speaking out against GM’s bond holders, Bain Capital, Catholic hospitals, and…Fox News !
He was so quick (and so certain !) to say that the Cambridge, MA police “acted stupidly” in regards to Henry Louis Gates, yet when Major Hassan was arrested at Fort Hood, Obama sternly warned us all against “jumping to conclusions” before we have all the facts.
When the Tea Party was burgeoning in the summer of 2009, the left wing narrative was that the Tea Party was just a bunch of angry people who should sit down and shut up. In other words, their “anger” was casually dismissed as merely some sort of psychological issue.
Yet whenever the unions assemble to protest in Wisconsin or Chicago, or Occupy Wall Street people are defecating in city parks, or whenever Sandra Fluke makes an angry demand, or whenever the Jihadists are throwing grenades, the left wing narrative seeks to legitimize their anger by inquiring, “what did X do to make these people so angry ?”
It’s almost become cliche as a left wing meme whenever the Jihadists kill, maim, or pillage…”what did we/they do to make them so angry that they would behave this way ?”
We’ll never hear the media never ask what the Democrats did to elicit the Tea Party to peaceably protest.
Comment by Elephant Stone (65d289) — 9/12/2012 @ 7:53 pm
MIHOP
LIHOP
PDB warnings
Blah blah blah
It was never not political
Comment by JD (16fdce) — 9/12/2012 @ 7:54 pm
FYI. http://marines.americanspecialops.com/fleet-antiterrorism-security-team/
“FAST” has to be the most overused acronym in the military. When I was in, I didn’t even know it stood for “Fleet Anti-terrorism Support Team” until after I learned it stood for “Forward Area Support Terminal” and “Fleet Air Superiority Training.” I know I’m missing a few.
But it’s the USMC’s FAST that’s heading to Libya. Along with a bunch of other assets that wouldn’t have to deploy but for the President’s incompetence.
Comment by Steve57 (c8ac21) — 9/12/2012 @ 8:09 pm
“Fleet Anti-terrorism Security Team.”
Sorry. Acronym overload. I still suffer from it.
Comment by Steve57 (c8ac21) — 9/12/2012 @ 8:10 pm
0bama and his
fast furious ball-spike on
bin Ladin to blame
Comment by Colonel Haiku (a83528) — 9/12/2012 @ 8:19 pm
c’mon 0bama
don’t you hurt Muslim feelings
no more ball-spiking!
Comment by Colonel Haiku (a83528) — 9/12/2012 @ 8:20 pm
media suck-butts
“He’s powerless” narrative
true… man has no balls
Comment by Colonel Haiku (a83528) — 9/12/2012 @ 8:22 pm
Horrible.
Sean Smith, one of the murdered diplomats, alerted friends online before the attack that he was suspicious of their alleged security detail taking pictures of the consulate:
“Assuming we don’t die tonight,” the message, which was first reported by Wired, read. “We saw one of our ‘police’ that guard the compound taking pictures.” Within hours of posting that message, Smith, a husband and father of two, was dead.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/12/diplomat-killed-in-libya-to-fellow-gamers-assuming-dont-die-tonight/
Comment by elissa (6d0f18) — 9/12/2012 @ 8:38 pm
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Obama sternly warned us all against “jumping to conclusions” before we have all the facts.
And you left out his wonderful response to the case of Trayvon Martin, or the teenager who’d look like Obama’s son if he had a son.
I’m really not being flippant when I say that one has to be truly extreme (ie, an ultra-liberal) to still be in the tank for Obama. After all, it’s not like he’s running against a staunch or ultra conservative. He instead is competing with a Republican emblazoned with credentials straight out of uber-blue-state Massachusetts. IOW, someone who certain observers may describe as being “squishy” or prone to centrism.
Comment by Mark (5a66fe) — 9/12/2012 @ 8:41 pm
Elissa – that is chilling.
Comment by JD (16fdce) — 9/12/2012 @ 8:45 pm
Despite the complacent, in-the-tank media, I think this sad crime will resonate in ways they don’t, won’t and can’t understand.
Comment by Ag80 (b2c81f) — 9/12/2012 @ 8:48 pm
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“Assuming we don’t die tonight,”
I wonder what Smith’s politics were like? I only ask because if he were a kum-bah-yah type person — which is very possible since he was vetted by the Obama administration — full of naivete and gullibility about human nature — prone to seeing good guys as bad, bad guys as good — then he may have actually written “assuming we don’t…” in a somewhat glib, tongue-in-cheek manner. IOW, if he were truly suspicious and cynical about the situation, he probably would have been so unnerved by the possibility of his death, that he would have resisted writing in the way that he did.
If so, and if the phrase of “a conservative is a liberal who has been mugged” is applicable here, then Smith was the ultimate victim of a mugging from which there is no return.
Comment by Mark (5a66fe) — 9/12/2012 @ 8:53 pm
Mark–maybe just for tonight you could give it a rest? Most of us really don’t care what Sean Smith’s politics were. He was serving our country, he was highly respected according to the article I linked, he is dead, and he should not be dead.
Comment by elissa (6d0f18) — 9/12/2012 @ 9:00 pm
I don’t want to belabor the point, but I will anyway.
I watched Nightline last night and again tonight. Tonight’s version started with the crime in Libya and is now concentrating on dangerous magnets that children may swallow if they have bad parents and potential Shakespearean actors with Kevin Spacey.
Does anyone else here remember how Nightline started? In case you don’t, it was the Iran hostage crisis. Every night, Ted Koppel would intone about how many days innocent people were imprisoned by Iranian revolutionaries.
The media has become useless and it doesn’t even seem to know why. Yet, it seems intent on really, really proving why it doesn’t matter anymore.
Comment by Ag80 (b2c81f) — 9/12/2012 @ 9:05 pm
Yes Ag. I do remember. At the time of the Iran hostage crisis the intersection of news and entertainment on “news” programs had not yet come to full flower, though. And there were a few practicing newspersons still going through the motions of being journalists. Compare and contrast.
Comment by elissa (6d0f18) — 9/12/2012 @ 9:15 pm
I think I will shut up after this:
We are at war and have been since 2001. It doesn’t matter who the President is, or who it may be. It doesn’t matter about legislation, health care, and my favorite, or Ryan’s marathon time. We are at war, and it’s about time we faced up to it.
Sorry, but that is a fact.
Comment by Ag80 (b2c81f) — 9/12/2012 @ 9:18 pm
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Most of us really don’t care what Sean Smith’s politics were.
I do care because his words would be far more haunting and disturbing if they were said with total, full seriousness. Yea, “assuming we don’t die…” can be said with flat-out alarm or hard-core panic, but they also have a peculiar twist about them. They’re like something that a person would say partly in jest, by someone naive enough to not really understand the magnitude of what he was facing.
I recall after 9-11, I was mentioning to an acquaintance about a column written by Peggy Noonan, in which she described seeing Middle-Eastern-looking-type guys taking snapshots of various sections of Manhattan. The person sort of shrugged it off and implied that Noonan was being overly suspicious and perhaps even a bit paranoid. BTW, the individual I was speaking with is a fairly staunch liberal.
Comment by Mark (5a66fe) — 9/12/2012 @ 9:23 pm
Terrorists kill 4 Americans in Libya and all the MFM wants to do is talk about how Romney jumped the gun by arriving at the same conclusion as Obama ultimately arrived at. At the same time, a video is being blamed instead of the actions of the terrorists. And to top it all off, after 8 years of leftist mewling about the evils of Bush, it is now important to not criticize Teh Won during a time of crisis, especially while he is raising campaign loot in Las Vegas.
Comment by JD (16fdce) — 9/12/2012 @ 9:23 pm
I can see a civil war in this country and the south occupied by northern forces. We’d all come down there with our Piss Christs and Elephant dung Virgin Marys And you’d be birthing suicide bombers like rabbits.
The film seems to have been backed by Coptic Christian fanatics with connections to businessmen who backed Mubarak. If that’s the case they were trying to destabilize the not very stable country.
As far as Libya, you now the CIA sent people to Khadafi to be tortured didn’t you?
Of course you did.
Comment by sleeeepy (b5f718) — 9/12/2012 @ 9:24 pm
I have a new thread on Cairo and Libya. Took a while to get to it, but it’s up now.
Comment by Patterico (83033d) — 9/12/2012 @ 9:25 pm
Hush, idiot.
Comment by JD (16fdce) — 9/12/2012 @ 9:27 pm
Ah, the perfect end to a terrible day. Sleeeeepy weighs in with a nose full of slimy green boogers.
Comment by elissa (6d0f18) — 9/12/2012 @ 9:29 pm
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I watched Nightline last night and again tonight.
Maybe it’s just as well that ABC’s daily “news” program, which dates back to Ted Koppel in the early 1980s, is soon going to be pushed back to the late-night starting time of 12:30 am and replaced with the Jimmy Kimmel Show. At least comediennes like Kimmel don’t have to pretend to be impartial and non-partisan.
Comment by Mark (5a66fe) — 9/12/2012 @ 9:33 pm
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There’s the phrase of “you can judge a person’s character by the company he keeps.” Perhaps that applies to those found in an online forum too?
I don’t know fully what was going on in Sean Smith’s mind when he wrote “assuming we don’t die tonight,” but there is a greater possibility that his comment fits the profile of someone who would assess a situation so poorly, that good becomes bad, bad becomes good, and Romney — and NOT the sad, misunderstood, tragic, put-upon, Islamicists, victims of American imperialism, American greed, American meanness — elicits resentment and anger.
Comment by Mark (5a66fe) — 9/12/2012 @ 9:56 pm
Ahh, good ol’ cooooomatose. Not afraid to distort the past and discuss his hallucinations to protect his messiah from the harsh realities of the present.
I suppose gaining the charter membership in the Cult of Personality requires a firm commitment to be willing to look like a complete idiot in defense of Teh Won.
You certainly held up your end of the bargain, coooooomatose. It really does require a firm commitment to a vow of idiocy to overlook King Putt’s utter and complete ineptness.
Comment by Steve57 (c8ac21) — 9/12/2012 @ 9:59 pm
“I can see a civil war in this country and the south occupied by northern forces. We’d all come down there with our Piss Christs and Elephant dung Virgin Marys And you’d be birthing suicide bombers like rabbits.”
- assssssssssssshole
Now try an honest analogy: where they killed you just for saying that.
Plausible? Idiot.
A bunch of hopped-up Muslims just killed our ambassador over a movie. A movie.
I had “Libyans,” but it wasn’t “Libyans.” It was Muslims. F*ck it. And f*ck them. No getting around it this time.
Comment by Leviticus (cd2e4b) — 9/12/2012 @ 11:00 pm
The US is responsible for the deaths, directly of indirectly of a couple of hundred thousand Muslims over the past 10 years, most of them civilian. Total US casualties, over 11 thousand, mostly military. The Iraq invasion was a total waste. It had nothing to do with 9-11.
And remember forget that Al Qaeda was something we helped to create, and that Bush ignored once it became dangerous to us.
Don’t moralize.
Comment by sleeeepy (b5f718) — 9/13/2012 @ 12:24 am
How is that AZT working out for you, sleepy?
Leviticus, personally, I cannot stand Methodists.
Comment by nk (875f57) — 9/13/2012 @ 12:42 am
And there is no movie. It is a spoof “trailer”. And some hillbilly, jackleg, goatmolester of a preacher.
Comment by nk (875f57) — 9/13/2012 @ 12:46 am
Why are people accepting this faux narrative about a movie trailer? This wasn’t some spontaneous uprising.
Comment by JD (16fdce) — 9/13/2012 @ 3:57 am
As far as Libya, you now the CIA sent people to Khadafi to be tortured didn’t you?
Comment by sleeeepy — 9/12/2012 @ 9:24 pm
– You know that the clip you linked does not say ANYTHING AT ALL about people being tortured by Que?Daffy after they were “sent” to him, don’t you?
The US is responsible for the deaths, directly of indirectly of a couple of hundred thousand Muslims over the past 10 years, most of them civilian.
– All of this Muslim-on-Muslim crime is all OUR fault, is it?
The Iraq invasion was a total waste. It had nothing to do with 9-11.
– You’re in favor of brutal dictators throughout the world remaining in power, are you?
And remember forget that Al Qaeda was something we helped to create
– Do you know what I heard? Dick Cheney has in his possession (framed and hanging on a wall in the basement of his fortress compound in Idaho) the actual cocktail napkin upon which Ronald Reagan, in his last official act as President of the United States, scribbled out proposed names for the new band of young Sunni terrorists he was assembling.
Among his doodlings were such rejected names as:
Backwater Boys
118 Degrees (In The Shade)
Kitch*NSYNC Bombmakers
The Jihadis Brothers
Boyz II Heaven Before They Have A Chance To Become Men
Hanson
Comment by Icy (d49355) — 9/13/2012 @ 7:30 am
“You’re in favor of brutal dictators throughout the world remaining in power, are you?”
We installed the Shah, backed Zia in Pakistan, helped to install and backed Saddam Hussein, back the gulf monarchies, back Jordan, helped to install and supported dictatorships in central and south America.
The US doesn’t support countries based on whether or not they’re dictatorships, we support countries that help us get what we want. The people in those countries may not agree.
Do you want to rule the world or be a Christian moralist?
Pick one.
Comment by sleeeepy (b5f718) — 9/13/2012 @ 7:55 am
Comment by sleeeepy — 9/13/2012 @ 12:24 am
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The US is responsible for the deaths, directly of indirectly of a couple of hundred thousand Muslims over the past 10 years, most of them civilian.
This is simply not true. Where do get such numbers?
Those are the kind of numbers Saddam Hussein used before the war, claiming that vast numbers of people were dying because of the sanctions (although the “oil for food” program allowed him to import food and medicines)
Comment by Sammy Finkelman (8c951a) — 9/13/2012 @ 8:10 am
If the Libya Free Press report is true that the Ambassador was sodomized before his death, it suggests his killers were Gaddafi loyalists since there was a similar report regarding his death. But the report is unconfirmed so this could be disinformation to direct suspicion away from the Libyan government/rebels.
Comment by DRJ (a83b8b) — 9/13/2012 @ 8:10 am
The Iraq invasion was a total waste. It had nothing to do with 9-11.
George W. Bush never said that it did, except for the fact that 9/11 showed him that weapons of mass destruction could not be tolerated in the hands of Saddam Hussein, as Saddam would not need to have intercontinental ballistic missiles to attack the United States.
And remember (and don’t) forget that Al Qaeda was something we helped to create
So therefore we should ignore it? It happened because the United States gave Pakistan’s rogue military intelligence agency a blank check. But the truth is it is Haqquani network that we helped create. Al Qaeda came later.
and that Bush ignored once it became dangerous to us.
Nobody was ignoring it by 2001. I mean, everybody knew about the millenium plot. And the attack on two embassies in 1998 and the USS Cole. And the attack on the World Trade Center in 1993.
It wasn’t because they ignored it that 9/11 happened. It was because they just didn’t understand what exactly they could do.
Well, you also had to FBI officials refusing to even apply for a national security warrant on Zaccarias Moussavi (sp?)
Comment by Sammy Finkelman (8c951a) — 9/13/2012 @ 8:26 am
“So therefore we should ignore it? It happened because the United States gave Pakistan’s rogue military intelligence agency a blank check”
Bush ignored the threats. And we gave millions to the Mujahideen. We worked with the Saudis are we still do. The Saudis are still the major funders of Al Qaeda. We’re backing Sunni against Shia; we’re backing the Salafists who spawned the 9-11 attack.
“Nobody was ignoring it by 2001.”
Just stop. Please
“But some in the administration considered the warning to be just bluster. An intelligence official and a member of the Bush administration both told me in interviews that the neoconservative leaders who had recently assumed power at the Pentagon were warning the White House that the C.I.A. had been fooled; according to this theory, Bin Laden was merely pretending to be planning an attack to distract the administration from Saddam Hussein, whom the neoconservatives saw as a greater threat. Intelligence officials, these sources said, protested that the idea of Bin Laden, an Islamic fundamentalist, conspiring with Mr. Hussein, an Iraqi secularist, was ridiculous, but the neoconservatives’ suspicions were nevertheless carrying the day.
In response, the C.I.A. prepared an analysis that all but pleaded with the White House to accept that the danger from Bin Laden was real.”
Comment by sleeeepy (b5f718) — 9/13/2012 @ 9:10 am
sleeeepy, you’re so full of $hit I can smell your breath over the internet.
Comment by AD-Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! (b8ab92) — 9/13/2012 @ 9:22 am
Sleeeeeeeeerpy woke up agitated and lying. Again.
Comment by JD (16fdce) — 9/13/2012 @ 9:26 am
Good grief. An obvious example of ignoring common sense, let alone CIA warnings, is staring us right in the face, and people want to rehash the crap that Rice didn’t know who Al Qaeda was and Bush was ignoring things?
When the NYT and sleepy reveal what Sandy Burglar stole from the archives to cover up for Clinton then we’ll give them 30 seconds of our time. Until then, don’t be ridiculous.
Comment by MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 9/13/2012 @ 9:33 am
I asked sleeeeepy: “You’re in favor of brutal dictators throughout the world remaining in power, are you?”
He responded by babbling on about dictators that the U.S. has “supported” in the past, and then finally came around to answer my question . . . with a question:
“Do you want to rule the world or be a Christian moralist?
Pick one.”
– I suspect that the “Christian moralist” part has less to do with whatever sleeeeepy percieves my personal belief system to be, and more to do with HIS unstated belief that the people of the Middle East are barbarians incapable of civilized behavior.
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