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8/9/2012

Did the Obama Campaign Know About Soptic?

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 8:39 pm



No! No, no, no, no, no, no . . .

. . . yes.

Frankly, I’m all for coordination. I think the First Amendment allows coordination.

But not lying about it.

81 Responses to “Did the Obama Campaign Know About Soptic?”

  1. Is your wife a goer? Know what I mean?

    The First Amendment is just a playground for lefties to make up whatever they want.

    Ag80 (b2c81f)

  2. How do you know so many Monty Python references?

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  3. It’s much more like the Argument Clinic,

    narciso (ee31f1)

  4. I’m all for coordination. I think the First Amendment allows coordination.

    Yes. It’s strange to be that freedom of association and freedom of political speech is curtailed.

    I suspect in this case it’s not the law that is the real reason the President of the United States won’t publicly associate with his campaign’s actual behavior.

    His personal disgrace is our national disgrace.

    Dustin (73fead)

  5. hope and change this, food stamp

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  6. Does this six minute video about GST at barackobama.com from January 2012 starring Joe Soptic mean anything? He’s wearing the same clothes as in the later Obama ad and the priorities USA ad. Does that mean they were all filmed at the same time or maybe Mr. Soptic does not have that many clothes due to the actions of evil Unindicted Murderer and Tax Felon Mitt Romney who’s Mormon Stare of Death causes cancer?

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  7. Things were so much simpler prior to CREEP/Watergate.
    Back then, whatever you saw or heard, you knew was a product of the campaign, and you judged the candidate accordingly.
    Now, they try to have so many cut-outs to give plausable deniability, that they create a huge pool of cynicism within the electorate, and the entire process just sucks –
    as does the quality of the candidates that survive.
    It’s amazing that anyone with ethics or morals gets involved in politics at all.

    AD-RtR/OS! (2bb434)

  8. It’s amazing that anyone with ethics or morals gets involved in politics at all.

    True.

    Who needs this? Who would want to put their family through it? If you want to reform government you have to withstand accusations of killing people with cancer? It actually gets worse than that.

    Why isn’t the nation outraged? Obama should lose 25 points in the polls over this. If we as a people cared enough, we could get a government that had its act together.

    Dustin (73fead)

  9. “Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard.”
    H. L. Mencken

    AD-RtR/OS! (2bb434)

  10. People like Cutter are shrewd enough to understand that they can lie repeatedly and face little consequence – let alone the president facing any hard consequences like losing polling points or perhaps even losing an election. Reality is malleable and “truth” becomes whatever the moment requires. But mostly what Dusting said, people just don’t care enough. The left are true believers, and the right is long past outrage and instead the reaction is a cynical acceptance of expectations having been met. Again.

    Dana (292dcf)

  11. But, one day, they will go too far.

    As Winston Churchill once said:
    Americans will always come up with a solution, after trying everything else.

    And, when we have that solution and apply it, you don’t want to be downrange/in-the-headlights/etc.
    There will be a reaction, and it will be intense.

    AD-RtR/OS! (2bb434)

  12. It is what Jacksonians do!

    AD-RtR/OS! (2bb434)

  13. Why isn’t the nation outraged?

    I think some of it may be information overload. Everything turns into a haze and it is hard to act in a haze.

    Somehow with ObamaCare enough people caught the idea that Congress wanted to pass a 2,000+ page bill that nobody had read, and people got outraged at that. Of course, the MSM and National Black Caucus want to dismiss all of those outraged people as being racist.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  14. cable news is an effing sewer replete with feces and exotic bacteria and freakishly high estrogen levels

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  15. She was Kerry’s camapign manager, then she was a flack for a hedge fund, founded by Goldman alumni,

    narciso (ee31f1)

  16. She was Kerry’s camapign manager,

    So she was the one with the audacity to put Kerry out “Reporting for Duty”? That says a lot, and not good in my book.

    Hopefully there is enough truth staring people in the face that she/they won’t get away with it this time. But as I said before, her boss is friends with Eric Holder.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  17. DRJ, I was 14 when Monty Python was a current TV show in England. It was required viewing for every schoolboy and if you weren’t word perfect on all the sketches the next morning you were a social pariah. And even then we knew that some of the sketches were sub-par. The school boys’ favorite was “What a silly bunt…”

    Gazzer (0fd2af)

  18. Now, if the rules state that there is to be NO coordination whatsoever between a super-PAC and a candidate . . .

    Icy (f95ed9)

  19. Goldman Sachs Leads Split With Obama, as GE Jilts Him Too

    god bless america is all I got

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  20. “A switch in party preference of this magnitude is virtually unheard of among major companies with an established presence in Washington,” said Rogan Kersh, provost at Wake Forest University in Winston-Salem, North Carolina.

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  21. Pool. I pick first. Obama gets three states. Romney gets 47 or 54.

    nk (875f57)

  22. Obama gets Hawaii and Vermont for sure

    he’ll have to build his victory out from there

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  23. happyfeet, great link at #19.

    My takeaway, in large part: payback is a bitch.

    Dana (292dcf)

  24. And this news comes in on the same day that both the Justice Dept AND the Securities & Exchange Commission declined to file fraud charges against Goldman Sachs.

    One might say that the Obama administration received a poor return on their investment.

    [And what will be the reaction of the Occupy crowd, once they get wind of this complete lack of prosecution?]

    Icy (f95ed9)

  25. Alright, she was just communications director, she was promoted to higher level, still that was the
    message they were trying for,

    narciso (ee31f1)

  26. it’s cheering, huh

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  27. Cal. N.Y. and Mass. – These states will lip lock obama ,no matter what.

    mg (44de53)

  28. All of this is simply grist for AG Giuliani. This will get MUCH worse, because Obama’s minions know it’s re-election or jail.

    Frankly, I’d bet on millions in cash contributions going to newspapers and reporters before it’s over.

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  29. One might say that the Obama administration received a poor return on their investment.

    Pretty much on par with Obama’s foreign policy.

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  30. Not only did they know about Soptic, they ran 2 ads with him. Even further, buzzfeed had a slideshow from the campaign website pushing the Romney caused my wife to get the cancers and die and just doesn’t care, long before the slimy vermin Bill Burton ran with it.

    JD (e2af90)

  31. Romney is a tax evader… Son of Boss tax shelter won’t save him from this one.. Release the tax records Romney!!

    The Emperor (6a05c3)

  32. AG Giuliani.
    Comment by Kevin M — 8/10/2012 @ 12:19 am

    Hey, that’s an encouraging thought.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  33. Romney is a tax evader

    Liar.

    JD (e2af90)

  34. JD I know how you feel; the embarrassment this must mean. But deep down I know you are wondering why your candidate is doing nothing to dispel this cloud… Is there a scandal waiting to blow open? Questions questions questions…

    The Emperor (6a05c3)

  35. Democrats seem to think that they can just lie their way to office.

    Reynolds was right, Obama has shown himself to be not merely intellectually unfit for office but utterly unfit morally.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  36. Obama has shown himself to be not merely intellectually unfit for office but utterly unfit morally.
    In your little world, SPQR. More than half of Americans disagree with you. He will win re-election as further proof of it.

    The Emperor (6a05c3)

  37. The Emperor, if you think that lying about Romney to the extent of claiming he is responsible for a woman’s death five years after a layoff is appropriate behavior for a president, you are as morally unfit as well.

    But that you approve of such disgusting behavior surprise me not at all, you are matching slime.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  38. What this story does show is that while the Obama campaign has slandered Romney as a felon and a tax cheat, they were illegally coordinating attacks with SuperPAC’s.

    This is all of a kind of the sort of illegal campaign conduct we have come to expect.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  39. @SPQR
    Where do you have evidence that Obama himself made that claim? Prove it or you are the liar here.

    The Emperor (6a05c3)

  40. Mittens is being handed this election. If only he was willing to take it. Between “you did not create your business” and this …. anyway.

    Having been a Management Consultant and working in that Bain world, it does not surprise me their lack of hustle and street instincts. Always wanting to be above the crowd means eventually you have no one to hold you up.

    Rodney King's Spirit (aeda60)

  41. “I saw an ad yesterday that is being run by a Republican outside group that questions whether the president was born in the United States and shows a picture of his birth certificate with a question mark on it. No one is asking the Romney campaign about that ad and what they think about that ad. So as we talk about apples and oranges, that’s the apples-to-apples comparison I’ll leave you with,” she she said. Psaki.
    Enough said.

    The Emperor (6a05c3)

  42. The Emperor, I wrote “the Obama campaign”, you ignorant moron.

    Here’s Obama campaign lawyer Bauer being quoted flogging the slander about being a felon.

    The Emperor, you are the established liar and you’re still an unrepentant one – just like the slime President you support.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  43. The significance of the Obama campaign’s involvement with the Soptic ad is that its direct involvement and its evidence of coordination – not merely “what they think about that ad”.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  44. That was after you said this, “ Obama has shown himself to be not merely intellectually unfit for office but utterly unfit morally.“. Name calling is what you usually resort to when you get caught out.

    The Emperor (6a05c3)

  45. Lovie – your charge, your burden of proof.

    Enough said, my arse. This isn’t about some random outside commercial. It is Obambi’s deputy Burton, and the obvious coordination with Cutter and OfA.

    Bugger off. That you approve of this disgusts me.

    JD (318f81)

  46. JD, point anywhere on this thread I indicated support of this? Or you are the liar here. You have one minute….

    The Emperor (6a05c3)

  47. The Emperor,

    Put on some proverbial clothes.
    Who do you think you are ? Stalin ? Mao ? Castro ? …or Randy Travis ?!

    Elephant Stone (65d289)

  48. The Emperor, you didn’t catch anyone out, you illiterate idiot.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  49. His first race, for state senate, he found himself unopposed, because a volunteer, had gratefully challenged the signatures of all his possible opponents, only in 2000, against a more able community organizer, Bobby Rush, that he faced any type of challenge, then in 2004, he had divorce filings full of rumors, conveniently leaked about his two strongest primary opponents, that’s the way he’s prevailed, and when he can’t find any such evidence, he makes it up wholesale,

    narciso (ee31f1)

  50. Save the name calling for someone who really gives a shit, SPQR.. In the meanwhile tell your candidate to clear the tax cloud over his candidacy. That is the real issue here.

    The Emperor (6a05c3)

  51. Once the Trolls begin to feed, the comments go downhill.

    BarSinister (664312)

  52. If Cutter is such a cheerleader for Democrats, why isn’t she in a skimpy outfit with blue pompons on TV???

    PCD (1d8b6d)

  53. Ah, but narciso, that ad can’t exist. The Emperor called me a liar for suggesting that the Obama campaign was flogging that slander too.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  54. The fact remains that the GOP could have done better than a Romney. What were they thinking?

    The Emperor (6a05c3)

  55. Rick Santorum or Jon Huntsman could have been a better option. Or Ron Paul! Not this rich kid flip flopper..

    The Emperor (6a05c3)

  56. Such a troll, given your history. Say, weren’t you banned originally? If so, why?

    Simon Jester (67f410)

  57. I wonder if people will one day look back on these Sopic adds the way that we look back on that Daisy add with the little girl being blown up by an atom bomb.

    Pious Agnostic (7c3d5b)

  58. Where do you have evidence that Obama himself made that claim? Prove it or you are the liar here.
    Comment by The Emperor — 8/10/2012 @ 6:43 am

    — That’s nice, Lovey. You have set the bar so low that it is actually resting at the bottom of the barrel.

    Icy (84536b)

  59. Lovey has been eating tye food again.

    Icy (84536b)

  60. Jay Carney knows three Soptics, but only two of them lost their wives due to Romney’s greed.

    Icy (84536b)

  61. Rick Santorum or Jon Huntsman …. Or Ron Paul!

    Look, you had your chance to register as a Republican and vote in the primary, and pick the guy you wanted Obama to face in the election, but you didn’t.

    Obama has to face against Romney. And based on the amount of scum that Obama’s campaign is willing to swim around in, they must be pretty desperate.

    Pious Agnostic (7c3d5b)

  62. Rick Santorum or Jon Huntsman …. Or Ron Paul!

    Any one of these are exactly who I would have installed as the Republican candidate…if I were a democrat who wanted Obama to have an easy win.

    Man, the troll quality is dropping around here.

    kinlaw (8f4928)

  63. kinlaw, sign our petition demanding better trolls for the site.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  64. Comment by SPQR — 8/10/2012 @ 11:49 am

    Thumbs up, that was funny.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  65. Lol!

    The Emperor (cf8c10)

  66. It’s much more like the Argument Clinic

    Especially since the Emperor showed up.

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  67. Did 0blamer know about Soptic? Is teh bear Catholic? Does teh Pope sh… oh… wait.

    Colonel Haiku (4d1546)

  68. Romney plane parked in Ryan’s hometown… Sammy… unleash those smoking fingers!

    Colonel Haiku (4d1546)

  69. MICKEY KAUS: “I had some serious doubts about Mitt Romney’s ad attacking Obama’s welfare ‘waivers’ — until I read the New York Times editorial denouncing it. Now I know Romney’s ad isn’t as accurate as I’d thought. It’s much more accurate.”

    http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/148348/

    Colonel Haiku (4d1546)

  70. 69. No such luck, just a Boston charter parked in industrial Janesville. Ryan is ostensibly on vacation in CO.

    Sabato yesterday had a study showing swing voters will, for those that bother, vote 70% against BootBlack.

    http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/08/throwing-the-bums-out-is-the-bipartisan-theme-of-2012-primaries/

    Worser than 2010 for incumbents?

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  71. I heard Barry Soetoro received aid at Occidental and Columbia as a foreign national doubling as a gay prostitute.

    I don’t use Google tho.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  72. Emperor, are you also clamoring for the (Democrat) Senate Majority Leader to face up to the allegations of pederasty?

    malclave (1db6c5)

  73. K, Romney is going to announce his VP pick tomorrow morning 9AM Eastern.

    Colonel Haiku (8e0c51)

  74. It will be Paul Ryan.

    Colonel Haiku (8e0c51)

  75. Hey, Emperor, did you ever see this?

    Not much else really matters.

    Ag80 (b2c81f)

  76. Here are allegations with a more credible “source” than Harry Reid’s, a Sinaloa cartel member says that Fast & Furious was about an agreement between the US Government and the cartel to take down rival cartels.

    Far more credible source than Harry Reid’s ties Obama to intentionally aiding a drug cartel.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  77. 76. It would certainly be a wise choice. GOP footsoldiers will cream.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  78. I have a new thread up on Ryan.

    Patterico (501fad)

  79. Apparently our pal Stephanie Cutter has canceled her appearance tomorrow morning on ABC’s This Week. Maybe she figured there was not enough anti perspirant in the world to protect her from the grilling she’d face. But, Good News–There will be Axelrodian wisdom instead. His mouth and mustache will replace her on the show. So you prolly won’t want to miss that.

    elissa (3eb66e)


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