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8/3/2012

Harry Reid Doubles Down

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:33 am



As everyone knows, Harry Reid recently claimed Mitt Romney hasn’t paid taxes, per a double-secret source — and says Mitt Romney bears the burden of proving his unsubstantiated allegations to be false:

“I don’t think the burden should be on me,” Reid said. “The burden should be on him. He’s the one I’ve alleged has not paid any taxes. Why didn’t he release his tax returns?”

Now Reid is doubling down:

As I said before, I was told by an extremely credible source that Romney has not paid taxes for ten years. People who make as much money as Mitt Romney have many tricks at their disposal to avoid paying taxes. We already know that Romney has exploited many of these loopholes, stashing his money in secret, overseas accounts in places like Switzerland and the Cayman Islands.

. . . .

It’s clear Romney is hiding something, and the American people deserve to know what it is. Whatever Romney’s hiding probably speaks volumes about how he would approach issues that directly impact middle-class families, like tax reform and the economy. When you are running for president, you should be an open book.

Led by Instapundit, the conservative blogosphere has had a field day with Reid, as exemplified by this from Beldar:

We simply can’t know that all the rumors about Harry Reid’s pederasty are false until he releases his personal porn collection. Of course, if he denies having a porn collection, we will know he’s a liar.

The list of things Harry Reid needs to deny is growing.

473 Responses to “Harry Reid Doubles Down”

  1. Slander is all the Democrats have to defend their abysmal record.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  2. Why are we wasting time on a guy who has no chance winning this election? We need to concentrate on the senate.

    EPWJ (2a58f7)

  3. “A lot of holes in the desert, and a lot of problems are buried in those holes.”

    – Nicky Santoro

    Colonel Haiku (f76845)

  4. Funny, that you say, Colonel, because Santoro is based on a real hitman, Spilotro, who was tied to Rosenthal, who in turn was tied to Reid, (they made him, Sen, Harrison in the film)

    narciso (ee31f1)

  5. Is this blatant libel not actionable for some reason?

    Space Cockroach (8096f2)

  6. yeah, narciso, I know the story and Reid was just another pissant with a fondness for puffery.

    Colonel Haiku (f76845)

  7. Hairy Reid’s hometown of Searchlight is still the dingy little one-horse town it was 60 years ago when Reid lived there. Perhaps a few more double-wides scattered around the edges. Obviously local boy made good and then forgot all about home. Oh, right. They added a mini-mart onto the casino. Perhaps Hairy helped with that.

    If more people think like EPWJ, we will have Obama to kick around 4 more years.

    PatAZ (cbbf6d)

  8. MCCLATCHY: Reid’s tax charges against Romney are irresponsible, analysts say. Just meant to distract from the pederasty rumors. . . .

    http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/147928/

    Colonel Haiku (f76845)

  9. It’s nice that he drops in from Prince Nahyan’s yacht from time to time.

    narciso (ee31f1)

  10. The problem is, Pat, those folks aren’t intelligent enough to recognize what they’re facilitating.

    Colonel Haiku (f76845)

  11. Actually, that’s tripling down, since he said it the second time on the Senate floor.

    I looked in the New York Times today, and there’s nothing at all about this. Neither is this mentioned in the Wall Street Journal, the New York Post or the New York Daily News.

    Correction, I just noticed : There is something but it’s in the middle of a story about GOP Governors rallying around Romney.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/03/us/politics/mitt-romney-rallies-republican-governors-in-colorado.html?_r=1

    Romney’s interview with Sean Hannity gets mentioned in paragraphs 5 and 6.

    ,i> Earlier on Thursday, Mr. Romney struck back at Harry Reid, the Senate majority leader, who has suggested that Mr. Romney spent a decade not paying taxes.

    “It’s time for Harry to put up or shut up,” he told Sean Hannity of Fox News. “It’s untrue, dishonest and inaccurate,” he said, demanding that “Harry reveal his sources.”

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  12. It’s possible the New York Times may be working on a bigger story, and at this stage they don’t know what to make of it – they can’t say it’s true or has any basis at all, and they can’t say it hasn’t, so they say nothing. I think they know it’s slander, and they don’t want to repeat it.

    In fact, there’s just now a kind of editorial: (which says however, that Romney has handled it wrong)

    http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/03/put-up-or-shut-up/

    This is hot off the press – if some people want to comment maybe they can get in early.

    August 3, 2012, 10:56 am 2 Comments

    Put Up or Shut Up’

    By ANDREW ROSENTHAL

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid scored a magnificent own goal the other day, easing pressure on Mitt Romney to release his tax returns by throwing around wild accusations. He told The Huffington Post on Tuesday that, according to a Bain investor, Mr. Romney didn’t pay taxes for ten years. Realizing that gossip from an unnamed source would hardly convince a skeptical public, he conceded: “Now, do I know that that’s true? Well, I’m not certain.” Thus he added to the impression that the allegations were baseless.

    Andrew Rosenthal claims that Romney should just simply have denied he didn’t pay taxes, instead of asking Harry Reid to reveal his sources.

    I guess he’s got to say something against him.

    Actually, this is the way to deny it (without revealing his tax returns, or at least the bottom line)

    And also a way of making Harry Reid Harry pay in some way for this. I guess the New York Times consideres this a real side issue and they don’t want to deal with it.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  13. In everything the De

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

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    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  15. just want Romney wants/needs to do: take instruction and/or criticism from the NYT to heart.

    Colonel Haiku (f76845)

  16. “If more people think like EPWJ, we will have Obama to kick around 4 more years.”

    PatAZ – I want to know who the ever accurate EPWJ believes “WE” is in his comment.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  17. “When you are running for president, you should be an open book.”

    HAhahahahhahaHAHAHAHAHhahahah ::weeps::

    SarahW (b0e533)

  18. Sarah, it is as if tye was parodying himself.

    SPQR (695f2a)

  19. One source, or is it many sources, Harry? First you said it was a Bain investor. Then you said many people have whispered in your ear. Now you say a credible source (singular). Can you please get your lies straight, so we know exactly how pathetic you are. PS Stephen Glass called. He wants to offer you help on creating sources. He says you’re giving fabulists a bad name.

    dave (9d9e73)

  20. Today’s upbeat jobs report includes a seasonal addition of 377K jobs to July.

    Come on you Moonbeams, do you still think government can be peacefully reformed?

    We need months of summary executions even to make a dent. WTFU.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  21. “Reid’s father was so embarrassed about what his son would do someday that he killed himself at age 58.”

    I find that amusing and yet I feel no remorse. It’s a terrible thing.

    Colonel Haiku (f76845)

  22. Hairy Reid’s hometown of Searchlight is still the dingy little one-horse town it was 60 years ago when Reid lived there.

    Not entirely true; it’s now world-famous thanks to “Fallout: New Vegas”. Of course, in the game it’s a radioactive wasteland that’s death to any unprepared travelers…

    Rob Crawford (c55962)

  23. iowahawkblog: “@HarryReidisaPederast scandal EXPLODES: embattled alleged pederast’s office issues non-denial” http://t.co/16StXoNB

    Colonel Haiku (f76845)

  24. JimPethokoukis: “Net jobs created under President Obama (from Jan 09): 33,000 (Hamilton Place Strategies)”

    Colonel Haiku (f76845)

  25. Comment by Colonel Haiku — 8/3/2012 @ 8:57 am

    [just what] Romney wants/needs to do: take instruction and/or criticism from the NYT to heart

    I think the editorial page editor of the New York Times (Andrew Rosenthal) just hates the idea of revealing sources, or exposing leakers – that’s why he said Mitt Romney should not have asked Harry Reid to reveal his source.

    Even though he knows the source may very well be made up, or lying. (If Romney did not pay zero taxes for 10 years, he’s lying if he claims to know that for a fact – let alone there’s almost nobody who would be in a position to know that.

    Sammy Finkelman (ce5e39)

  26. this doesn’t change how the election is a referendum on president food stamp I don’t think but Romney should still release his tax returns

    happyfeet (a55ba0)

  27. What Reid and his accomplices should know is that anyone who revealed Romney’s tax returns is a felon. I would suggest Romney wait until October and then release a copy of the checks to “US Treasury” for the ten years. Reid is saying he “didn’t pay any taxes.” That should be enough.

    Mike K (326cba)

  28. _____________________________________________

    Harry Reid recently claimed Mitt Romney hasn’t paid taxes

    Even more laughable when — among quite a few working for the current White House — Obama’s Secretary of the Treasury who, in turn, is also head of the IRS is a known tax cheat.

    Ya can’t make this s*** up.

    Mark (70c729)

  29. “it’s now world-famous thanks to “Fallout: New Vegas”
    Probably true, Rob, but when I went thru on my way to Vegas in Dec, it looked about the same as when I went to the same high school Hairy went to back in 1960. Of course, he was ahead of me by a bit and I didn’t know him. I did only stop for a bathroom/gas break.

    PatAZ (cbbf6d)

  30. This is what tye – and Harry Reid – want to distract you from, a chart comparing actual employment to Obama’s own prediction.

    Obama’s fails worse than doing nothing by his own predictions.

    SPQR (26706b)

  31. today’s 8.3% jobless rate is exactly what it was in February 2009, when Obama got his $838 billion stimulus package. At that point, the civilian participation rate in the workforce was 65.8%. Today’s was 63.7%. In February 2009, we had 80.392 million people not participating in the workforce; as of July, that number has grown by almost eight million people, to 88.34 million, which took 42 months to grow.

    Eight million people not working, thanks to Obama.

    SPQR (26706b)

  32. How is this any different than the TeaPublicans claiming “on good source” that Obama wasn’t born in the United States?

    All you nutters had no problems betting that farm on that one.

    Don’t like getting dirty?…Don’t throw mud.

    Stephen (bdd208)

  33. obama’s kitty genovese economy is crying out for halps Mr. Stephen

    and more food stamps ain’t gonna cut it

    happyfeet (a55ba0)

  34. Stephen, actually Hillary Democrats originally claimed that Obama was not born in the United States. And they had a pretty good source, Obama himself. As Obama’s own press materials as a book author claimed he was born in Kenya.

    SPQR (26706b)

  35. And his father was the finance minister of Kenya, instead of a one time bureaucrat in the Transport
    Ministry.

    narciso (ee31f1)

  36. “Stephen” is cute.

    JD (cfef43)

  37. How is this any different than the TeaPublicans claiming “on good source” that Obama wasn’t born in the United States?

    Well, for one thing, this story is being propelled by the Senate Majority Leader. There weren’t any highly-ranked Republicans who claimed Obama wasn’t born in the US.

    All you nutters had no problems betting that farm on that one.

    You paint with a broad brush. I’m not a nutter, and neither are the overwhelming majority of commenters here. Further, I rejected the birthers and argued vehemently against them. The birthers weren’t more than a small percentage of Republicans. So, you’re wrong about who bet what farm.

    Don’t like getting dirty?…Don’t throw mud.

    One would think the Senate Majority Leader would know better than to make false accusations of felonious behavior. But, apparently, you think that’s okay because a small group of Republicans did something you thought was unfair.

    Chuck Bartowski (3bccbd)

  38. Stephen wrote: “All you nutters had no problems betting that farm on that one.”

    BTW, this is what is called a flaming lie. This site had a lot of us debunking the Birther conspiracy nuts that were started by Hillary’s supporters.

    SPQR (26706b)

  39. The trolls are getting more and more incompetent. I am going to protest to Patterico that he needs to attract a higher class of troll to this site.

    SPQR (26706b)

  40. Rush Limbaugh wondered today: Did Harry Reid do this on his own? Whose instructions did he take? Did he draw the short straw? Did he volunteer for this? Did they ask him and he agreed?

    Rush is inclined to think (I think) that it’s the last one. He said he likes doing this or did it before – something like that.

    Sammy Finkelman (ce5e39)

  41. By the way, to continue my point above about unemployment, it turns out that if you pull apart the details, it appears that the government BLS uses an estimate for new jobs created in small businesses that are not directly tracked. One third of the 163K new jobs last month appear in this estimated category … which is ten times the number they used last year for that number.

    Ten times.

    That’s how much finagling the BLS is doing in a pathetic and transparent attempt to hide how bad the economy actually is.

    SPQR (26706b)

  42. SPQR – with all of their politicization, it is remarkable that was the best number they could come up with.

    JD (cfef43)

  43. Chart o’ the Day… America’s 11 million missing workers…

    http://t.co/sNzPePRy

    Colonel Haiku (f76845)

  44. H0PEless no spare CHANGE
    moral failure Audacity
    of Indifference

    Colonel Haiku (f76845)

  45. JD, ten times the B/D small business estimate of last year? Its pretty brazen to my mind.

    SPQR (26706b)

  46. Obama-Biden 2012: “A Volt in Every Garage and a Pekingese in Every Pot”

    Colonel Haiku (f76845)

  47. Chart o’ the Day… America’s 11 million missing workers…

    Yeah, but some guys wondered about the birthplace of this dude that keeps the details of his life more secret than he keeps US defense plans.

    Rob Crawford (c55962)

  48. 48. Heh. That’s the ticket!

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  49. “Yeah, but some guys wondered about the birthplace of this dude that keeps the details of his life more secret than he keeps US defense plans.”

    Rob – Or our secret plans to aid Syrian rebels.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  50. Uh Stephen,
    Just because a great many people wonder what’s in all those records Obozo keeps secret, doesn’t make us “Birthers”. We can accept that he was born in Hawaii, and still wonder about, what they contain and why doesn’t want them publicized.

    Mike Giles (14a5bb)

  51. We know where Mitt Romney’s wealth came from.

    Where has Harry Reid’s wealth come from?

    SPQR (26706b)

  52. Almost 3 percent more unemployment than predicted, and Obama says his plan “worked”.

    Well, thank God. Obama must think that “failure” of his economic plan would have brought an apocalyptic asteroid strike or something.

    SPQR (26706b)

  53. More 0bama EPIC FAIL:

    “Hezbollah terrorist mastermind and killer of American troops Ali Mussa Daqduq was in U.S. custody in Iraq and could have been transferred to Guantanamo Bay years ago. Instead, the Obama administration decided to let an Iraqi court try him. In a development that should come as a shock to no one, Daqduq has been cleared of charges, and the latest U.S. extradition request has been denied. The Associated Press reports the unrepentant terror leader might be back out on the streets before the end of Ramadan.”

    http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2012/08/03/u-s-extradition-request-denied-for-daqduq/#more-801393

    Colonel Haiku (f76845)

  54. “The Associated Press reports the unrepentant terror leader might be back out on the streets before the end of Ramadan.”

    Colonel – What could go wrong? Obama’s plan worked. Smart power.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  55. There is no realm in which Obama has not been the worst President in modern history, and an utter failure by his own promises/goals/predictions.

    Not one.

    SPQR (26706b)

  56. How is this any different than the TeaPublicans claiming “on good source” that Obama wasn’t born in the United States?

    All you nutters had no problems betting that farm on that one.

    Liar. That never happened. Name anybody from the TEA Party movement or any Republican who made such a claim, let alone “bet the farm” on it. The accusations were coming from Democrats; the consensus on the right was that he probably was born in the USA, but that his stubborn refusal to produce his birth certificate was curious, and we wondered what was on it that he was hiding. After all, there’s nothing personal on a birth certificate that a person wouldn’t want publicly known.

    Milhouse (15b6fd)

  57. According to Peter Schweizer’s new book Throw Them All Out, Harry Reid is thoroughly corrupt, a thief who uses the power of Congress to extort money from companies and individuals.

    So part of Harry Reid’s motivation here is to keep the news media busy paying attention to something other than his own record?

    pst314 (ae6bd1)

  58. Is this blatant libel not actionable for some reason?

    Reid claims he has a source. Of course he’s probably making that up, and even if the source existed Reid said he was a Bain investor, i.e. an outsider, and even if he were an insider how would he know how much tax Romney paid? But Reid can claim that the source exists and told him this, and that it never occurred to him that he/she might be lying. That it’s someone who’s never steered him wrong in the past (that he knows about, anyway).

    That’s how Time Magazine got away with libeling Arik Sharon. I don’t think they even had to reveal their source; I’m not sure about that, but I don’t recall them doing so.

    Remember Capitol Hill Blue? They had a source whose reports they passed on for years, and who turned out (they said) to be a complete con artist (I suspect they made him up, and “admitting” they’d been taken by a serial fabricator was less embarrassing than the truth).

    Milhouse (15b6fd)

  59. Comment by SPQR — 8/3/2012 @ 12:46 pm

    There is no realm in which Obama has not been the worst President in modern history,

    Worse than Jimmy Carter?? Come on!!

    He’s in the running, though, for the most blatantly political president, when it comes to proposed legislation. The last year, I think, it’s nothing but political posturing.

    He’s also locked in an ideological straightjacket, as Rush Limbaugh says.

    and an utter failure by his own promises/goals/predictions.

    This is absolutely true, and he knows it.

    Not one.

    Sammy Finkelman (ce5e39)

  60. Not one.

    Do you have such a bias towards the present that you forget Jimmy Carter?

    Sammy Finkelman (ce5e39)

  61. Is this blatant libel not actionable for some reason?

    Speech and debate clause.

    JD (cfef43)

  62. One can also consider another lawsuit against Esquire, filed by McFarlane,

    http://brookekroeger.com/sharon-loses-libel-suit-time-cleared-of-malice/

    narciso (ee31f1)

  63. Colonel – What could go wrong? Obama’s plan worked. Smart power.

    Comment by daleyrocks

    teh Smart Diplomacy all the way around, daley. We need to return power to the adults… these chowderhead academics the Commander-InCompetent has surrounded himself with are an unmitigated disaster.

    Colonel Haiku (f76845)

  64. Is this blatant libel not actionable for some reason?

    Speech and debate clause.

    That only applies to the time he said it on the floor of the senate, not to the other two times. The other two times were actionable, but there’s no point in suing him because there’s no way to prove his malice.

    Milhouse (15b6fd)

  65. BELIEVE IT OR NOT!

    http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0812/adelson_apology.php3

    Democratic committee apologizes to GOP donor Sheldon Adelson

    “…the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee….said it was retracting statements “that attacked Sheldon Adelson, a supporter of the opposing party.”

    Those statements accused Adelson of personally approving of prostitution at his company’s casinos in Macau, China, according to his lawyers and published reports.

    The DCCC’s retraction called those allegations “unsubstantiated.” Using remarkably contrite language, it added: “This was wrong. The statements were untrue and unfair and we retract them. The DCCC extends its sincere apology to Mr. Adelson and his family for any injury we have caused.”

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  66. The speech and debate clause was what protected Senator Joseph McCarthy, but since then we have had the Supreme Court case of New York Times v Sullivan which makes some targets essentially unlibelable.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  67. Finkelman, to paraphrase Glenn Reynolds, for Obama to be as bad as Jimmy Carter is now a “best case” scenario for the Obama presidency.

    SPQR (b93549)

  68. #41 Millhouse

    Reid claims he has a source. Of course he’s probably making that up, and even if the source existed Reid said he was a Bain investor, i.e. an outsider, and even if he were an insider how would he know how much tax Romney paid? But Reid can claim that the source exists and told him this, and that it never occurred to him that he/she might be lying.

    Following up on your comment – There are two serious statutes which make revealing confidential tax return information a serious federal crime. US title 26 section 7213 and section 7213A. There is a second statute under banking statutes that prohibit disclosure of financial information.

    There are additional penalties for IRS employees who release tax information.

    Very few individuals with access to the confidential information would be willing to risk the legal implications (with the exception of a serious partisan person).

    Having seen Romney’s 2010 return and the 2011 draft return, the likelihood of Romney not paying taxes for 10 years is extremely remote.

    Joe (a00dc1)

  69. We may not have Obama’s college transcripts but somebody leaked/stole Mtt Romney’s report card from his first year of High School.

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/mitt-romneys-high-school-freshman-report-card-released/attachment/screen-shot-2012-08-02-at-3-01-53-pm/

    Not sure what the Democratic attack line will be.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  70. The story dates from 2006. And here are the opening sentences of a news report: “Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid has been using campaign donations instead of his personal money to pay Christmas bonuses for support staff at the Ritz-Carlton where he lives in an upscale condominium. Federal election law bars candidates from converting political donations for personal use.”

    Well, that’s one way to become wealthy, misappropriate campaign funds.

    SPQR (b93549)

  71. The burden should be on him. He’s the one I’ve alleged has not paid any taxes.

    Idiot senator – his statement is hearsay, and he has no idea what burden of proof is. It’s as if he works for a newspaper or something.

    I say Harry Reid is a murderer. he has a dead body in his refrigerator. Now – let him defend himself! If it’s not there, it must be in his closet, or his trunk, or his … let me think … burden on him …

    Amphipolis (d3e04f)

  72. “A new report just out from the Internal Revenue Service reveals that 36 of President Obama’s executive office staff owe the country $833,970 in back taxes. These people working for Mr. Fair Share apparently haven’t paid any share, let alone their fair share.”

    SPQR (b93549)

  73. Well I saw somewhere online that Harry Reid has 3 women chained up in his basement in Nevada.

    I think the guy was the gardener who was paid to feed them while Harry’s in DC.

    I mean, I don’t KNOW that it’s true but Harry should conduct tv crews around his basement in NV and anywhere else he has property.

    I don’t have to prove that, He has to prove that he doesn’t have women in his basement(s).

    Teh preceding was an attempt at satire. No words were harmed by this attempt. Your eyes may have a differing opinion.

    jcw46 (b4329c)

  74. The speech and debate clause was what protected Senator Joseph McCarthy

    Whom did McCarthy libel? As far as I know everyone he named as a communist was one; is that not correct?

    Milhouse (15b6fd)

  75. As far as the economy and the jobs outlook go, y’all can’t get the water to clear up until you get the turd out of the creek.

    Colonel Haiku (e0a019)

  76. Credible secret sources tell me that Harry Reid funds snuff films under the table.

    The burden is on him to disprove that.

    Alan (098693)

  77. Oh… right… satire disclaimer, yada yada.

    Alan (098693)

  78. A: “I don’t think the burden should be on me,”

    Q: What does Harry Reid say to li’l boys before he drops their lifeless bodies into the icy waters of the lake?

    Colonel Haiku (e0a019)

  79. Joe McCarthy at least had a piece of paper to wave.

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  80. Romney needs to address a couple things besides the economy, particularly his standing with single women, where he’s losing 3-1. He’s let Obama paint him as some kind of evil misogynist who wants to ban the pill.

    He also needs to get a handle on the press, because if they continue to ignore him and make up stuff like the did in Poland and Israel, he’s got about as much a chance as Putin’s opponents. For much the same reason.

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

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  82. I was told by an extremely credible source

    Simple mistake. Like most liberals, Reid is stupid, and doesn’t know the difference between “credible” and “credulous”.

    malclave (1db6c5)

  83. I heard today Holmes’ psychiatrist warned the college he was coming apart and they said he’s a short timer, fogettaboutit.

    Hairy, Nan and Bumblef*ck are going to find a lot of chagrin from their side whey all the crying is ovah.

    Maybe a tetch of animosity? Rage?

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  84. Would this be the same source who briefed Reid on Scalia and Thomas’s opinions in the Hillside Dairy case?

    Alan (098693)

  85. Clint Eastwood backs Romney: ‘Country needs boost’…

    “The Oscar-winning director and longtime movie star says he’s endorsing the Republican presidential candidate.

    Eastwood tells The Associated Press that he’s backing Romney because, in Eastwood’s words, “I think the country needs a boost.”

    Eastwood was among those attending a Romney fundraiser Friday night in Sun Valley, Idaho.”

    http://news.yahoo.com/clint-eastwood-endorsing-romneys-presidential-bid-234505229.html

    Colonel Haiku (ee9fdb)

  86. iowahawkblog: ‘Breaking news in the @HarryReidisaPederast controversy: Reid infiltrated Boy Scouts as “adult volunteer”‘

    http://t.co/1bCGzTAN

    Colonel Haiku (ee9fdb)

  87. The gift that keeps on giving:

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/08/03/ChicagoValues-Expert-Alderman-Moreno-Calls-Cardinal-George-Un-Christian

    Libs are the dumbest muthas in any room and Donk masses can’t avoid leakage of da troof into their simulated consciousness.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  88. National Soros Radio is going for the gold in obamawhoring today, and I think they have a very very good chance.

    With only three monthly jobs reports left before Nov. 6, President Obama needs every piece of good economic news he can get to add to his argument for re-election.

    Friday’s employment report certainly provided some.

    USA USA and etc

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  89. Harry Reid is accomplishing exactly what he hoped to accomplish, with the help of the Obama-friendly media.

    His only goal was to focus attention on Romney’s tax returns. What is in them is beside the point.

    His personal political future is irrelevant. He’s not up for re-election again until 2016, and he’s not going to run again anyway.

    His only goal is to “tie down” the Romney campaign by making them continue to deal with this issue, while the press ignores the real stories of the day.

    The Press can make themselves feel better by — like Anderson Cooper and Jon Stewart have done — skewering Reid for his statements.

    But, at the end of the day, its still “Mission Accomplished.”

    Reid is the perfect deliveryman — he’s completely slimy, lacks any sense of ethics or propriety, and his position in the Senate guarantees coverage.

    shipwreckedcrew (dd1bdb)

  90. right but Romney handed them this issue on a platter by not releasing his tax returns

    he deserves everything sleazy Harry throws at him really

    are we sure we want to have to live with the Romney precedent of a really very anemic level of disclosure?

    Harry is front and center offering himself as an example of how sleazy and hyper-entitled our abysmal political class is.

    Attention should be paid.

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  91. I agree with shipwreckedcrew. This is the diversion of the week by the Obama Administration. That doesn’t mean it won’t be effective but that’s not the point.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  92. Romney is drastically lowering the bar for how much we can know about these lowlifes what aspire to the presidency

    that’s bad for America

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  93. you know what I mean

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  94. happyfeet,

    Romney could turn over every record in existence from first grade on *AND* let a camera crew film his life 24/7 (including shower scenes) and it wouldn’t be enough to satisfy the media. They would complain Romney didn’t provide his records from age 1-5.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  95. I agree DRJ but there remains a palpable sense that Romney thinks he doesn’t have to follow the same rules all the other candidates – including Daddy Soros’s boy toy – have followed

    just cause the media’s out to get him doesn’t mean he isn’t hiding something

    and again, this sets a precedent what hastens America’s movement towards becoming an increasingly third worldy and corrupt little country

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  96. Thank you for the link and quote, Patterico; you do me great honor.

    Ace has more, and much funnier, one-liners, but I think mine was reasonably apt.

    Space Cockroach (#5 — 8/3/2012 @ 8:13 am): If your question is a serious one, the starting place is to look at the specific text you have in mind to see whether it contains false statements of fact. If I had said, for example, that Harry Reid is a pederast, that would be a statement of fact, but I certainly did not say that. Under traditional defamation law applicable in most states (including Texas, where I live and whence my statements were published), statements of opinion are generally not actionable. I’ve done nothing but share my opinion about hypothetical speculation — specifically, about what Harry Reid ought to do to put an end to these rumors, if they’re false, but which, inexplicably, he has not done.

    Ace quotes his campaign staff’s only response to these allegations as being: “Cute.” Where I come from, “cute” doesn’t equal “false and defamatory,” cute equals kittens. I’m not saying that Harry Reid puts kittens into blenders, that he videos the resulting red-white-red-white-pink-pink-pink swirls, or that he masturbates while doing that, because I don’t yet have any evidence to prove that. But then again, I don’t have subpoena power, do I? And he refuses to talk about kittens as far as I’m aware, or blenders.

    Next: Under cases like Hustler Magazine, Inc. v. Falwell, the U.S. Supreme Court has interpreted the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution to protect parodies of public figures. Reid is the quintessential example of a public figure. Whether his potential claims are brought under defamation law or under newer torts like “intentional infliction of emotional distress,” the First Amendment requires that public figures complaining of parodies show a particular kind of “actual malice.” As a practical matter, in this context, that would be impossible.

    A defamation plaintiff cannot recover more than nominal damages unless he can prove the defamatory statement harmed him, and that requires a baseline showing of the plaintiff’s reputation beforehand. Anyone who’s paying the least bit of attention already knows that Harry Reid is an untrustworthy liar who routinely — and I’m talking nearly daily, certainly while the Senate is in session — tells huge whoppers for the most obvious partisan purposes. That is is reputation even among knowledgeable Democrats if you could force them to tell the truth. Practically nothing that could be said about Harry Reid could blacken his already tattered reputation.

    And truth is a defense. If he sued me, I would get to look at his porn collection. Now, do I know that that’s true [i.e., that his porn collection would support a pederasty charge]? Well, I’m not certain. But obviously he can’t release [that porn]. How would it look?

    But if I’m wrong, and if Harry Reid wants to sue me, he can easily find me. I use a nickname, but I’m not an anonymous blogger. And I’ve been waiting on the courthouse steps for John Kerry to sue me for defamation for so long, I don’t mind waiting for Harry too.

    Beldar (a2eca9)

  97. Harry Reid doubles down and now Beldar has, too.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  98. right but Romney handed them this issue on a platter by not releasing his tax returns

    He should release abstracts, but his returns show lots of detail about his private business and, more to the point, other people’s private business. The moment he releases the whole thing, the NY Times and the rest of the liberal apparatus will be crowd-sourcing every line item and every last person that Romney has done business with will have investigators up their ying-yang.

    All so that Obama can run ads saying “In 1997, Mitt Romney did a million dollars business with Joe Schmough who was later convicted of defrauding the elderly. Mitt Romney: Bad for the Elderly, bad for America. And the kicker will be that someone won’t have checked carefully, and it will prove to be some other Joe Schmough.

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  99. but Mr. M the trade-off is that Daddy Soros’s next butt boy can point to the Romney standard of disclosure

    a self-respecting country wouldn’t make that trade I don’t think

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  100. “I agree DRJ but there remains a palpable sense that Romney thinks he doesn’t have to follow the same rules all the other candidates – including Daddy Soros’s boy toy – have followed”

    Mr. Feets – I beg to differ. The precedent on tax returns is not what was set by President O’Blameless and Romney’s promise to release two years of returns is well within ranges of recent candidates. Heck, the final 2011 returns he promised are not even due yet. The information on the returns, to the extent it still includes partnership investments, is sensitive not only to Romney, but to other investors in such transactions.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  101. “but Mr. M the trade-off is that Daddy Soros’s next butt boy can point to the Romney standard of disclosure”

    Mr. Feets – How many years did John Kerry and John Edwards disclose?

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  102. While I suspect Harry Reid is not currently a practicing pederast, I feel he has the look about him of a dog-lover, if you know what I mean. Well, at least he doesn’t (literally) eat them.

    Random (edf1d2)

  103. but there remains a palpable sense that Romney thinks he doesn’t have to follow the same rules all the other candidates – including Daddy Soros’s boy toy – have followed

    I don’t have that sense at all about Romney, feets. Rather I have the sense that Romney is simply refusing to be pushed into a corner by a desperate opponent. The economy, unemployment, etc., tell the truth and the administration wants you to look anywhere but there. If there’s no requirement for him to reveal his tax returns from age 5 and forward, then he doesn’t have to. Stop falling for the ploy. That’s not a bright shiny object, it’s desperation.

    (If Romney weren’t a gazillionaire and didn’t have the physical look that he does (picture him being a moderately comfortable middle aged man who looks like Nixon), would you then assume he didn’t have to play by the rules simply because he was special?

    Dana (292dcf)

  104. Oh, my — it occurs to me that I may have misinterpreted Space Cockroach’s question. If he/she intended to ask why Romney doesn’t sue Reid for libel, the answer is:

    Since Romney is also a public figure and since Reid was trying to avoid making objective statements of verifiable fact, there are all the same impediments I mentioned, plus possibly some others — including, as to at least anything he said from the Senate floor, Article I, Section 6 of the U.S. Constitution, which provides that “for any Speech or Debate in either House, they [Senators and Representatives] shall not be questioned in any other Place.”

    Beldar (a2eca9)

  105. ok good point Mr. daley I asked the googles and that appears to be true

    Obama released a lot but McCain only released as much as Mitt and George W hardly released any either

    Palin just released two years

    Reagan and Carter didn’t release anything

    I didn’t realize that.

    But it would still be cool to get a look at Romney’s. I heard he has a hundred million dollar IRA. Is that true you think?

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  106. So, each Republican in the Senate should stand and demand that Senator Reid put up his evidence or apologize. One after the other.

    And that he needs to show his tax returns as there is quite a bit of question how he got so rich on such a modest salary.

    They won’t, of course, because of the glass house thingie.

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  107. I don’t have that sense at all about Romney, feets.

    I don’t trust him at all he likes to force people to buy health insurance and then he turns around and acts all hey I’m not a statist

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  108. How many years did John Kerry and John Edwards disclose?

    the googles say reply hazy try again

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  109. Happy, I’m pretty sure no one has a $100 million IRA. Not at $3000 a year max they don’t.

    BUt he might have a heck of a piggy bank.

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  110. So, each Republican in the Senate should stand and demand that Senator Reid put up his evidence or apologize.

    I think they’d get more mileage out of explaining how few candidates republican or democrat have ever met Harry’s demand of releasing 10 tax returns

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  111. Happy, I’m pretty sure no one has a $100 million IRA.

    I will ask the googles

    brb

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  112. here’s a discussion Mr. M – looks like 100 mil is the top of a range

    Mitt Romney’s IRA

    Like many folks you know, Mitt Romney has an IRA. Unlike most folks you know, Mitt’s IRA is worth somewhere between $20.7 million and $101 million. How did it get so big?

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  113. here is a helpful page about presidential candidate tax returns

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  114. Mr. Feet, I’m no tax expert — like the SecTreas, I am at the mercy of TurboTax — but the most generous sort of IRA of which I’m aware, a SEP IRA (which Romney probably wasn’t eligible for), has a mid-five-figure cap; in 2011, it was the lower of either 25% of the employee’s income or $49,0000.

    Beldar (a2eca9)

  115. And the source you linked doesn’t contain any attribution. It’s some lawyer who’s a paid testifier, a roving expert witness. How is he supposed to know what’s in Romney’s records that … Romney hasn’t released?

    Beldar (a2eca9)

  116. “Joey, do you like movies about gladiators?”

    “You ever hang around a men’s locker room?”

    “Ever been in a Turkish prison?”

    “Joey, you ever seen a grown Senator naked?”

    Harry Reid’s comments to a 10 year old constituent back in Searchlight, NV.

    Harry Reid, Senator - D NAMBLA (df4742)

  117. there’s a lot to wade through on the subject Mr. Beldar… I rather fancy a brandy instead of reading a lot of fairly baseless speculation

    but a multi-million dollar IRA is an intriguing concept to think about, no?

    you wouldn’t have to use coupons and you could run the a/c at full blast all the time

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  118. I’ll join you in that drink (although brandy’s not my tipple of choice), Mr. Feet!

    Beldar (a2eca9)

  119. you are a tough one to figger out mr feets

    elissa (2af611)

  120. elissa I was confuzzled initially but Mr. daley helped me to understand more better

    I think it would be a good thing if there were a clear standard of disclosure everyone followed

    but what that should be I’m not sure

    more disclosure is better though I think than less

    You have to keep an eye on these people.

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  121. The House should impeach Reid. I’d say they have to impeach Reid or else they effectively condone false and fallacious accusations against a presidential nominee. If Reid doesn’t produce his evidence during the trial, I think even the senate would have to convict or else they condone false accusations.

    j curtis (065ed2)

  122. lol j curtis

    Good one.

    Random (edf1d2)

  123. Here’s what Sen. Reid doesn’t want you to know, per the accusations of a child exploitation ring.

    In 2006, David Whittemore took the fall for being a hard core child porn freak. He was convicted and the judge saw his condition as so bad that it was recognized that there is no rehabilitation for this pervert. Who is David Whittemore? Harvey Whittemore’s brother.

    http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2006/May-20-Sat-2006/news/7512507.html

    Who’s Harvey? Harry Reid’s #1 insider, backer, slush fund manager, etc. There’s your smoking gun, and given how much money is involved through this association, is there any surprise that Senator Reid won’t come out and attempt to claim that he’s implicated in the claims?

    Rumors that David was supplying children persist. “Where there is smoke, there is fire.” Did you think it was accidental that some went after Senator Reid on this rather unusual claim? Why did the Senator protect the child exploiter by refusing to distance from both him and his enabling brother?

    ParkCityHigh (b0bb5a)

  124. I have reviewjournal sites blocked still from that whole Rightshaven scheme they were behind

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  125. And in the event you read that article, it explains that the pederast Whittemore said that he would be working on the Coyote Springs development following his release from prison for being a pedophile.

    Coyote Springs? Do you mean, Harry Reid’s development project, Coyote Springs? http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303444204577458652541986234.html

    Why of course! This convicted child pederast actually told the media that once his sentence was served, he’d be working for Senator Reid on his development project.

    Why does Harry have such a soft spot for those who exploit children? Are the rumors true that the Senator has commented that “man-on-boy sex was perfectly fine for the Ancient Greeks”? Why won’t this Senator explain his implicated connection to convicted child sex offenders and the accusations that he may have his own problems in this area?

    ParkCityHigh (b0bb5a)

  126. Personally, I do t give a flying f*** about Romney’s personal finances. I care about the government’s finances. Mitt’s money is his, but the guvmint’s money is OUR money.

    Icy (b7e253)

  127. sparkle sparkle swoosh

    the more you know star (3c92a1)

  128. While I don’t really expect to get it, I’d be somewhat interested to know the vaguest details concerning what Willard intends to promote to Congress, if elected, and how that might change our plight.

    But that’s a risk, could change votes, and prolly ain’t gonna happen.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  129. I’ve heard that Hairy spends a lot of time in airport bathrooms reaching for things that’ve spilled from his pants onto the floor.

    Not hygenic, I’d think, to put them back, unwashed.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  130. _____________________________________________

    I don’t trust him at all he likes to force people to buy health insurance and then he turns around and acts all hey I’m not a statist

    Left-leaning sentiments in any president or politician often is the factor that makes them screw up. It has been evident among every Republican president since at least Herbert Hoover. Ronald Reagan incubated the Iran-Contra mess (and scandal) by originally wanting to be a soft-heart do-gooder over Iran’s taking of hostages.

    Beyond the US, even the non-Socialist, supposedly right-leaning president of Spain, recently voted into office, has gone against his own campaign promises and upped sales taxes (or VAT), further exacerbating the economic turmoil in that part of Europe.

    In your case, hp, being a soft touch about gay marriage is your own Achilles’ heel.

    Mark (70c729)

  131. We know where Romney made his money, its all public knowledge. Its Reid ‘s unaccountable wealth, without no visible means of attributable income that needs answers.

    Its Romney who is obviously not interested in how much of the White House china can stick to his fingers.

    SPQR (9ecda3)

  132. Re: Harry’s philosophy on taxes, has anyone else mentioned this gem?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7mRSI8yWwgRe

    fussbudget (672277)

  133. Harry Reid is a pedophile?

    Rodney King's Spirit (aeda60)

  134. Harry Reid is a pedophile?

    Just asking questions. Why won’t he unseal his totally made-up court records?

    Pious Agnostic (ee2c24)

  135. lapdog media® still doing its best to “drag Barack Obama’s sorry ass across the finish line”…

    Colonel Haiku (f5861d)

  136. harry reid… please call your future parole officer.

    Colonel Haiku (f5861d)

  137. Word on the street is Harry Reid is a registered sex offender…

    Colonel Haiku (f5861d)

  138. This was organized by Axelrod. Last week he had a meeting with the Senate Dems. I know politics isn’t bean bag but Axelrod and company are truly the scum of the earth as are those they represent. If the country allows itself to be manipulated by these thugs it is truly in decline. Romney cannot get into a tit for tat with Reed. He is a presidential candidate. One defense is sufficient.

    bio mom (3b9896)

  139. Hes being directed to do this from the fucking White House, to accuse Obama’s political opponent of being a felon and to say that his dead father is ashamed of him…. But Obama is a “good man” who only wants to do what’s best for this country.

    Mr. Pink (25b629)

  140. agreed, biomom. eye’s on teh prize and head in teh game.

    41 straight months of 8%plus unemployment… double-dip recessi depression… 50% of Americans dying with no financial assets…
    laughingstock of the “Free World”…

    Colonel Haiku (f5861d)

  141. HARRY REID HELPS CHINESE SOLAR FIRM REPRESENTED — BY HIS SON!

    http://www.lvrj.com/opinion/costs-conflicts-arise-in-reid-push-for-green-power-164858086.html

    Colonel Haiku (f5861d)

  142. Deficit in January 2009: $800 billion.
    Deficit promised by Obama for January 2013: $400 billion.
    Actual deficit right now: $1.26 trillion.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  143. All Romney has to do is act like his father did when he was a candidate.

    Reid is a politician, and not only that he’s from Vegas. Of course he’s corrupt. But he’s winning this one.

    On the economy Obama hasn’t done enough, but everything he could have done right you wouldn’t want.

    And Romney wants to raise taxes on everybody but people like him

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/02/us/politics/romney-like-plan-would-tax-lower-income-households.html

    still sleeeeepy (b5f718)

  144. Still Sleeeeepy ,how did you get so stupid? Seriously. What in your life caused such complete and utter stupidity? Mom? Public school? Tell us.

    Obama sucks (694db4)

  145. SPQR, the untold story, is that the Feb 17, 2009 pork-u-lus bill, rammed down our throats, by the Libtard party, when Obama was in office for 4 weeks, has been carried over for 3 more years. The Libtard Senates, refusal to pass a budget, has allowed the spending of 2009, to be “continued”, for the following 3 years. When a LIBTARD MORON tells you that we should have had more stimulus, and that more would have helped. Tell them this.

    Gus (694db4)

  146. still sleeeepy, false. Everything Obama could have done to improve the economy contradicted his ideological biases and so he refused to even consider those actions.

    Instead, he adopted short-term politically motivated tax policies that discouraged investment and hiring, adopted legislation that put large, unknown future costs on each employee, and pushed for failed stimulus packages that did nothing but put pork spending into the hands of cronies.

    Obama’s policies have been abject failures.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  147. Gus, you are somewhat confused. The pork-laden faux stimulus was supposed to be spread out over several years. The continual refusal of the Democrats to adopt a budget has indeed been among the policy choices that the juvenile Democratic party has adopted to avoid acting responsibly.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  148. still sleeepy, as for the impact of Romney’s plans, its a shame you don’t have a credible link for that. The fake analysis the NYT quotes was done by an Obama crony.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  149. Sleepy is just flat out lying now. It is really rather brazen. And shameless.

    JD (d636c8)

  150. SPQR. Yes, I am quite confused. The PORK-TARD bill spending has been quadrupled. Each year since Obama took office, that adopted level of spending has carried over, and has been spent. Without result. I like your post!! Especially, the term “supposed”. The thing that is worst, is that the GOP hasn’t pointed this out. At all.

    Gus (694db4)

  151. Well like George Costanza, and many commenters to the times, he might well believe ir.

    narciso (ee31f1)

  152. Gus, you are indeed confused. Some increased spending has been continued through continuing resolutions but the original stimulus bill has not been “quadrupled”.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  153. Romney is right. Culture is why Israel and the West are rich… http://t.co/FkhuQmAQ

    Colonel Haiku (086d72)

  154. sleepy,

    To cure your insomnia, may I suggest you try a glass of warm milk, a nice handful of almonds, and a Unisom tablet.

    To cure your left wing kookiness, may I suggest you try living in Cuba for a year.

    Elephant Stone (65d289)

  155. I think 2009 federal spending, including ONE-TIME stimulus, TARP and various bailouts have dishonestly become baseline for subsequent years rather than subtracting out ONE-TIME items

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  156. Elephant Stone – Or more bong hits.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  157. Listened to permabull Kudlow’s show today. He claims one Hubbard, Econ chair at Columbia, is gradually articulating Willard’s economic proposals, headed by $700+ Billion spending cuts, no change in capital gains, 20% corporate tax cuts, yada, yada.

    So somewhere elves are at work.

    Glaciers do not calve into the sea unless its snowing inland.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  158. Why do we keep hearing that sheep run away when they seen Harry Reid? It’s up to him to prove that these rumors are false.

    pst314 (49d034)

  159. I think 2009 federal spending, including ONE-TIME stimulus, TARP and various bailouts have dishonestly become baseline for subsequent years

    True.

    JD (d636c8)

  160. I don’t think all of the one time stimulus spending amounts have become baseline. I’d have to see something authoritative showing that.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  161. 167. Barofsky just published on the subject, give us a report. I have heard from time to time that Tarp established a rolling slush fund for the Donks.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  162. Whatever you heart desires, believe it sincerely with all your heart, without envy or malice and you will have it child.

    One big fat shattering disappointment piggie.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  163. FWIW, I heard the other day that Romney Sr. left his fortune to … brigham young was it… anyway, it wasn’t to Mitt, and the story about how he and his wife struggled to make ends meet early in their marriage and still in school reflect this. Of course, he still may have benefited from dad’s contacts, etc.

    Wouldn’t it be outrageous if Romney didn’t want to release his tax returns because then it would make public how much he gives to charity??? Somehow I don’t think Reid and company would ever consider such a thing.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  164. SPQR – the individual line items haven’t, but the overall dollar figures absolutely did.

    JD (d636c8)

  165. 171. Kudlow interviewed Robert Costa-a decent analyst-who lamented Willard’s reluctance to give the left any more fodder. His thinking that the sore would fester and never go away.

    I do not see a benign cyst becoming a prob when next month the addition of 367K jobs as a onetime seasonal/birth/death adjustment by the BLS will be off the table.

    The household survey showed 195K jobs lost. In two-weeks harder data will emerge. Barky should just go for sepuku and be done.

    The demise of arrogant conniving narcissist pretenders is not pitable in the least.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  166. Oh, that’s just embarrassing, Tomasky broke the dial at 12.

    narciso (ee31f1)

  167. Joe McCarthy at least had a piece of paper to wave.

    That was in the movie, not in real life.

    Milhouse (15b6fd)

  168. Wouldn’t it be outrageous if Romney didn’t want to release his tax returns because then it would make public how much he gives to charity???

    According to his 2010 return, he gave over $4,000,000 to charity, or about 25% of his income.

    Quite a bit more by percent of income than Obama’s donations.

    Chuck Bartowski (99415f)

  169. right but Romney handed them this issue on a platter by not releasing his tax returns

    No he didn’t. However many years he released, they would demand more. And if it wasn’t tax returns it would be something else. As shipwreckedcrew said, “his only goal was to focus attention on Romney’s tax returns; what is in them is beside the point.” So it could just as easily be anything else. And really, there is such a thing as privacy.

    are we sure we want to have to live with the Romney precedent of a really very anemic level of disclosure?

    What’s anaemic about two years of returns? Especially compared to the truly anaemic level of disclosure that 0bama has engaged in.

    Milhouse (15b6fd)

  170. I read that one earlier, Gulrud… Tomasky’s huffing some serious drugs. the 0bama campaign is on defense, not offense and there’s a reason for that.

    Colonel Haiku (086d72)

  171. The Mormon Church gets tithe, 10% of income.

    still sleeeeepy (b5f718)

  172. but Mr. M the trade-off is that Daddy Soros’s next butt boy can point to the Romney standard of disclosure

    Um, what do you think happened four years ago, feets? Do you think 0bama justified his extreme secretiveness by citing the postcedent that Romney would set four years later?! No, he just didn’t feel like releasing anything, so he didn’t, and the right tried to call him on it but nobody was interested. So how does Romney help them at all?

    Milhouse (15b6fd)

  173. Harry Reid as a pederast? Hard to believe that the nasty old goat could do that. But speaking of goats–there are a lot of them in Nevada–and I hear that they get nervous whenever Harry comes back from Washington DC to visit the “home district”. The goats say that when Harry’s there its BAAAA—DDD . At least that’s what they told me, and I believe that billy goat who told me–but who I can’t name–is a reliable and credible source.

    Comanche Voter (29e1a6)

  174. Most Christians tithe and Romney’s charity goes beyond his religious affiliation.

    As I and others have written… you’ll have a difficult time finding a straighter arrow in everyday life, let alone politics. And as he looks so good and forthright, it makes his liberal opponents look all the worse. That is why 0bama and the other Dem thugs and cretins must try to take him down. By any means necessary.

    Colonel Haiku (086d72)

  175. Obama released a lot

    No he didn’t. He released a lot of tax returns, but what’s special about those? Why separate them from the general class of relevant information that it would be in the public’s interest to know before voting for or against someone? Such as medical reports, for instance. And records of allegedly shady land transactions. And birth certificates, if there’s a question about them. And state senate records.

    Milhouse (15b6fd)

  176. 0bama is a travesty, a sham and a mockery wrapped into one… a traveshamockery.

    Colonel Haiku (086d72)

  177. The House should impeach Reid. I’d say they have to impeach Reid

    Um, it may have escaped your attention that Reid is a senator, not a president, vice president or civil officer. He’s not subject to impeachment, and the House has no say at all about him.

    Milhouse (15b6fd)

  178. “Most Christians tithe”
    10%? Not any more.

    still sleeeeepy (b5f718)

  179. Sleepy is a demonic clown. And a liar.

    JD (d636c8)

  180. A tithe is – by definition – one-tenth of something. Faithful Christians pay tithe in one form or another. I feel confident that 0bama doesn’t, because 0bama’s and Reverend Wright’s brand of “Christianity” doesn’t give, it takes.

    Colonel Haiku (086d72)

  181. “Most Christians tithe”
    10%? Not any more.

    Stats, please.

    Milhouse (15b6fd)

  182. Kessler, patted himself so hard on the back, he broke his arm with the Tax Policy study,

    narciso (ee31f1)

  183. A tithe is – by definition – one-tenth of something.

    True, but decimation is also by definition the loss of a tenth, and yet it’s regularly used to mean other percentages, up to 100%. So I can easily imagine that some or many or most might use the word “tithe” loosely to mean some level of donation that makes them feel good. Whether they do so is a question of fact, which is why I asked for some stats. It’s plausible, but that doesn’t mean it’s true.

    Milhouse (15b6fd)

  184. 174, 178. I count for O’Mamba 225 including PA and VA. The news of every sort is going against the putz from here on.

    Disease, decline, deterioration, nobody will vote for that. San Bernadino opted for bankruptcy this week, Scranton put everyone on minimum wage, you can’t get blood from a turnip.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  185. The brazen hypocrisy of Obama supporters demanding transparency. If irony were a poison, Obama would be mowing down his shills like WMD’s.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  186. Comment by still sleeeeepy — 8/4/2012 @ 6:19 pm
    All Romney has to do is act like his father did when he was a candidate.
    — You want him to utter a gaffe that loses him the nomination? Yeah, I bet you do. Tell ya what I’ll do: you hold your breath and I will let you know when the deal is done; okay?

    Reid is a politician, and not only that he’s from Vegas. Of course he’s corrupt. But he’s winning this one.
    — Since WHEN is Reid from Vegas? F***ing liar.

    On the economy Obama hasn’t done enough, but everything he could have done right you wouldn’t want.
    — Trust us, he’s done MORE than enough.

    Icy (dc7d2c)

  187. – Since WHEN is Reid from Vegas? F***ing liar.

    He’s not personally from Vegas, but he represents Vegas, and it’s his power base. This was especially clear at the last election, when Vegas pushed for him in a big way, and saved him from an embarrassing defeat. Not only did the casinos give him big bux, but they made a big effort to get all their employees to vote, and to vote for him. So it’s fair to say that he’s “the senator from Vegas”, in the same sense as “the senator from Standard Oil”.

    Milhouse (15b6fd)

  188. I think we are safe in kissing the US export market goodbye for the near term:

    http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2012/08/eurozone-new-business-sinks-at-fastest.html

    Bye, bye Barry. You’ll make a handsome corpse barring unseemly abuse.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  189. Thanks for helping me point out still sleeeeepy’s mendouchaity, Milhouse.

    Icy (dc7d2c)

  190. But wait, there’s more: “Unicorns and hypothetical close relatives of Harry Reid who were unsure of his status as a pederast until they consulted the interwebs.”

    Beldar (a2eca9)

  191. Harry Reid still lists his home as Searchlight, Nevada. I don’t think he’s lived there since he went to college, although he did move to Henderson, Nevada, (where he had attended high school, Searchlight having a population of around 200 then) after law school in Washington, D.C. He ran for mayor of Las Vegas in 1976 (and lost)

    Sammy Finkelman (22cc00)

  192. I assume there are a few religious people here, most of them christian. Do any of you give a full 10% of your income to the church?
    That’s not a criticism. I don’t give that much away.

    On the economy, employment and the rest, this is good.
    http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/08/why-washington-accepts-mass-unemployment.html

    On Romney’s response: “Harry Reid should put up or shut up”,

    this is the best reply I’ve heard

    “MITT ROMNEY DEMANDS THAT HARRY REID RELEASE ROMNEY’S TAX RETUNS!
    No. I am not kidding…”

    http://delong.typepad.com/

    still sleeeeepy (b5f718)

  193. deLong approves of reckless slander … that’s breaking news … not.

    SPQR (64a45a)

  194. 200 seems to me that Hairy Ried is the complete antithesis of what Mormons stand for and projects all his own failings onto Romney. Powerline just did an excellent takedown of the corrupt Reid. One thing I take issue with is that they say Pelosi got her millions by marrying into it, but it seems to me she added much more by insider trading on info about Visa and others, which for some reason is ok for congress critters.
    Perhaps you’ll tell us when Reid will respond to the charges that he is a pederast??? Wht is good enough for Jerry Sandusky should also apply to Reid. Still wondering why scum like pederast Reid and affirmative action know-nothing, clueless Urkel are not held to any standards of accountability by the stuck-up-Obama’s-ass media and their various associations with various crooks are not delved into at all? Also how much does Debbie Wasserman-Schultz and the DNC pay you to be a plant here and whether you, like Reid, are also a pederast?

    Calypso Louis Farrakhan (e799d8)

  195. Is Harry Reid the Nancy Pelosi of 2012?

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2012/08/is-harry-reid-the-nancy-pelosi-of-2012.php

    Calypso Louis Farrakhan (e799d8)

  196. According to his 2010 return, he gave over $4,000,000 to charity, or about 25% of his income.
    Comment by Chuck Bartowski — 8/4/2012 @ 8:20 pm

    Yes, I remember hearing that on MSNBC and reading it in the NYT. In addition to a report on the front page they had a big spread in the opinion column about how most studies show that people well off tend to give a smaller percentage than those poorer, and how much of a remarkable exception to the rule Romney is.

    Wait, what? I must have dozed off while I was typing, what was it I wrote?

    I have seen reports that on average the typical “call themselves a church going Christian” in the US gives about 3%, if I recall correctly. Many I know think of 10% as a norm, or minimum. But then again I know of people who give a percent of their professional time for free, etc. that counts as far as decreasing private income goes.

    I think I would agree with saying many in the US who consider themselves Christian give less than 10%, but some do, and some do more. Whether it tracks with how frequent church attendance is, or by domination, or what I don’t know and I’m not interested in looking it up.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  197. I must say that I was/am(?) of the “If there’s nothing to it why doesn’t he show his birth certificate” crowd, and I feel the pull of the “If there’s nothing to hide why doesn’t he show it” argument. I do agree it is 110% hypocritical- in fact I think Webster’s is going to use this as an example along with the definition, and I agree that all team Obama can do is make up another reason to blow more smoke and distract and Romney should not follow their script.

    That being said, I hope there is a point when Romney decides the nonsense has dug the Dems so big a pit that he comes forward with some proof as to how ridiculous their arguments are and they’re not even worth paying attention to anymore, although that will still be a lesson needed repeating.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  198. 203. Seems like they have a concern in common: the end of their reign of terror.

    Vlad the Impaler the archetype.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  199. A report was recently issued (and aforementioned in one of the threads on this topic) that Obama’s White House staff cumulatively is sitting on over $800K in delinquent personal income tax payments.

    I wish Team Romney would put on some brass knuckles and make that point publicly. They also should make some hay about little Timmy Geithner and his history of tax evasion.

    Also, nothing that scumbag Harry Reid does surprises me…except for the fact that he actually ascribed a hypothetical reaction to Romney’s late father, regarding Mitt’s refusal to release his own tax records.

    I just can’t believe Harry Reid wants to invite any scrutiny about what people’s deceased fathers might be thinking, considering the fact that Harry Reid’s own father was a mentally unstable man who ultimately committed suicide.

    Now, obviously, the Romney camp will not make any hay of the fact that Reid’s father committed suicide, but still, it’s pretty amazing that Reid would even risk “going there.”
    …sadly, it seems a little, uh, self-destructive.

    Elephant Stone (65d289)

  200. That being said, I hope there is a point when Romney decides the nonsense has dug the Dems so big a pit that he comes forward with some proof as to how ridiculous their arguments are and they’re not even worth paying attention to anymore, although that will still be a lesson needed repeating.

    I hope he does play “rope a dope” with the Dems on this one. But the Dems won’t learn their lesson, and neither will the mainstream media.

    In fact, the Dem partisans will just bleat all the louder the next time they make a bogus charge.

    Chuck Bartowski (99415f)

  201. I believe tye has been banned for expressing contrary opinions

    tye (6e44bd)

  202. 193- even if you believe that Obama is not transparent you have to agree that Romney is not off to a good start when he refuses to release the same basic data that was a standard for presidential candidates until he decided he wasn’t comfortable with that same transparency. What happens when he’s president? Not looking good.

    tye (6e44bd)

  203. No such luck.

    Pious Agnostic (ee2c24)

  204. “193- even if you believe that Obama is not transparent you have to agree that Romney is not off to a good start when he refuses to release the same basic data that was a standard for presidential candidates”

    tye – The truth of your assertion is not in evidence.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  205. tye, your claim that such release was “standard” is a lie. Your claim that its the “same transparency” is a lie given Obama’s behavior.

    Basically, I’ve yet to see you write a single comment without a lie.

    Obviously you are begging to be banned. But your lies are so obvious that you make a fine Democratic specimen for the zoo.

    SPQR (922821)

  206. tye – Even a hyperpartisan like you has to admit that repeating that same lies about Romney over and over and over does not make them true.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  207. I haven’t had the time to read through all the postings so excuse me someone said this before.
    Individual income tax information is protected under the Internal Revenue Code. Accessing it and publicizing is a really big no,no. Criminal and civil penalties. And you don’t need to be a public employee to be liable.
    Therefore Reid cannot disclose his sources without causing a number of people, maybe himself, of admitting to a criminal offensive.
    Mitt is right on calling him out.

    ^..^(____)~~~

    Cheshirecat (d16616)

  208. 214- i read your first sentence and it was a blatant untruth. I assumed the rest of your statement was garbage, thus.

    tye (6e44bd)

  209. Don’t see evidence that he is back-tracking on his earlier comment. He made it clear that he got it from an authentic source. He seems to be standing by that in this new comment. Nothing new guys. Sorry. The fact remains that in all this Romney still won’t release the said tax returns. The cloud still hangs…

    The Emperor (6b0744)

  210. It’s disconcerting that spqr is arguing from a place of complete ignorance of basic facts when it comes to financial record release. Where do these people get their “news” Emperor?

    tye (6e44bd)

  211. The only election this story will impact is that of Senate Minority Leader.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  212. @tye, from fox i guess..

    The Emperor (6b0744)

  213. “214- i read your first sentence and it was a blatant untruth.”

    tye – Then it should be easy for you to provide support for your assertion. Go!

    The blog awaits evidence supporting your position.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  214. aww, tye and emporer are attempting synchronized swimming commenting.

    elissa (eb8e22)

  215. tye, your claim that more than two years of tax returns is some sort of long established standard is objectively false. And you know it, your reputation for doubling down when shown to be a liar is well established.

    But there is no “cloud”. We know where Mitt Romney’s income comes from. There are no surprises like Obama’s suspicious real estate dealings with convicted felon Tony Rezko which have never been released …

    And there is no “cloud” when the accusation comes from a mobbed-up corrupt senator like Harry Reid – whose wealth has no corresponding legitimate income – who can’t even figure out if his source is singular or plural.

    SPQR (858ed6)

  216. I believe tye has been banned for expressing contrary opinions
    Comment by tye — 8/5/2012 @ 1:43 pm

    — tye be talkin’ ’bout tye in the third person. Sheeeee-it!!!

    Icy (dc7d2c)

  217. Here is an example of his hypocrisy with his own words/video

    Looks like Obama’s returns are available all the way back to 2000

    My oh my…. ouch for you.

    tye (6e44bd)

  218. You can’t use the word “transparent” for someone who hid his birth certificate for four years.

    Or for that matter, received an award for “transparency” in an event barred to press – that’s still hilarious.

    SPQR (858ed6)

  219. Tye,

    Why do you suppose Obama refuses to release his medical records, as well as his college transcripts ?

    What do you speculate he’s hiding, other than the obvious venereal disease and poor grades ?

    Elephant Stone (65d289)

  220. And of course, given the confirmation of Turbo Tax Tim as Treasury Secretary, and the nearly $1 million in back taxes owed by Obama’s aides, Democrats have told us that actually not paying taxes owed is not a disqualifier for office.

    SPQR (858ed6)

  221. There is no “cloud” over Harry Reid, the signs of his corruption are a full fledged thunder head. And the Obama campaign use him as a surrogate for these attacks? Its a good thing you can’t die from irony poisoning.

    SPQR (858ed6)

  222. Of course, if Obama worried about the tax returns of his own aides, the budget would be about a million dollars closer to being balanced.

    SPQR (858ed6)

  223. For Obama’s next trick, he’ll have Heidi Fleiss attack Romney for made-up allegations of infidelity.

    SPQR (858ed6)

  224. This is just a guess and it could be wrong –but I really don’t think tye is planning to vote for Mitt. Still, have you noticed that he never cites any good reason why he (or anybody else) should vote for Obama after he flubbed his first term so badly? Doesn’t it seem like tye’s time and unique persuasive talents would be better spent over on some demoralized left leaning site where the disaffected and chronically unemployed need puffing up rather than wasting his time here?

    elissa (eb8e22)

  225. tye, listen to your betters. Go away.

    Pious Agnostic (ee2c24)

  226. Tye is very obviously one of the infantrymen in the Daily Kos Army of Socialist Fools.

    Nobody with an IQ above 50 would conclude that he’s a Romney supporter.

    He’s an aging hippie (thus his previous monniker of TD—which stands for Tye Dye) and an Obama Guy all the way—his welfare check and food stamps depend upon Obama’s re-election !

    For years, the kooky lefties have been using this tactic of calling conservative radio talk shows and commenting at conservative blogs, claiming to be a disaffected Republican, who finally sees the light that the Democrat Party is the only hope.

    Elephant Stone (65d289)

  227. SPQR–Clearly the Obama campaign looks at the venal and unappealing Reid as expendable by using him as surrogate for this dirty work. And Reid himself is so scared of losing the power of the senate majority that either he doesn’t care that he’s being sacrificed on the alter of Axelrod– or he’s just too senile to recognize how he’s being perceived by normal people, including large segments of the media and Washingon D.C. insiders.

    elissa (eb8e22)

  228. “so gimme gimme”
    tyena wants and he needs
    hey… guy’s gotta eat!

    Colonel Haiku (637755)

  229. Barry’s a ratf*ck
    axelrod thinks he’s winning!
    teh “Chicago Way”

    Colonel Haiku (637755)

  230. Romney knows he’s got teh mojo. His pitch? Reduce the taxes of those who actually PAY taxes and that will help stimulate the economy.

    teh L0ser 0bama wants to raise everybody’s taxes and lie while he’s doing it. You want more of the crap we’ve seen for the last 3.5 years? Vote for the m0r0n.

    You want to see this country given a boost and be nudged toward the right track? Vote for the Mormon.

    Colonel Haiku (637755)

  231. Vote for the Mormon, not the Moron.

    SPQR (858ed6)

  232. “Strawman alert, aisle 230,” says the Court Jester in the Kingdom of Straw doing the bidding of King Harry.

    What’s poor ol’ Harry going to do when the word comes down to go after Mormonism. What a pickle. No, not Harry’s face, his predicament.

    Ag80 (b2c81f)

  233. “Vote for the Mormon—not the Moron !”

    That is a bumper sticker !
    WOW !

    Elephant Stone (65d289)

  234. Romney doesnt have a prayer. He’s starting to fall even farther behind, time to shore up the senate and house races and quit the illusion that this guy can appeal to – well anyone.

    Its over was over when he dissed Perry and hispanics

    Yes Obama is extremely bad but not bad enough for the hubris of many who ran to defeat him

    Obama will be easily re-elected but its time that he be cornered an d 4 years of grisly gridlock to finally expose the folly of overspending

    EPWJ (d84fb0)

  235. PeeWee pines for teh president with teh propensity to propagate teh deficit and teh debt.

    Colonel Haiku (637755)

  236. go PeeWee… go PeeWee… it’s your birthday… kiss teh sultan… ride a camel… with yer fez on…

    Colonel Haiku (637755)

  237. Col

    Well then there is the polls…..

    Look Obama is the weakest by far a walk in the park for anyone – Mitts not closing the sale

    Doesent that concern anyone.

    Yes his supporters are idiots yes he’s a moron – yes they are grossly unfair to Mitt, yes yes yes but why oh why isnt the man closing the sale?

    Because he cant, he wont.

    Mitt is frankly in the same boat as Obama was in 2008 the nominee without a plan or any clue as to what to do.

    EPWJ (d84fb0)

  238. That’s his story and he’s sticking to it, Colonel

    elissa (eb8e22)

  239. Why beyond he’s not Obama is there any reason to vote for the guy?

    We just threw a bonified conservatve Lt Gov under the bus for a Harvard Liberal who has never had a job except as an ivory towered lawyer for the Senate in Texas.

    A man without a conservative votiong record – never ran for office, never voted in a republican primary, was deemed a conservative.

    Gee Louise.

    Mitt’s not and never was a conservative, nor was he a republican.

    And now he’s the nominee in the times we need either Obama elected and a Republican senate and house or Mitt Elected?

    In a grid locked congress who would be the first to compromise a tea party controlled Senate or Mitt Romney with a democrat senate?

    EPWJ (d84fb0)

  240. elissa

    Is Romney any of your first 3 choices for the Nomination?

    You dont need to answer, but if he’s not is the senate control more important that either candidate being a weak disasterous president

    Itys horrible to have 8 years of an out of control progressive – it would be a disaster to have 12 years

    EPWJ (d84fb0)

  241. Good Allah;

    Cruz has authored more than 80 briefs before the United States Supreme Court and presented 43 oral arguments, including nine before the United States Supreme Court.

    In the landmark case of District of Columbia v. Heller, Cruz assembled a coalition of thirty-one states in defense of the principle that the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution guarantees an individual right to keep and bear arms.[15] Cruz also presented oral argument for the amici states in the companion case to Heller before the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit.

    In addition to his victory in Heller, Cruz has successfully defended the Ten Commandments monument on the Texas State Capitol grounds, the recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools and the 2003 Texas redistricting plan.[16]

    Cruz also successfully defended, in Medellin v. Texas, the State of Texas against an attempt by the International Court of Justice to re-open the criminal convictions of 51 murderers on death row throughout the United States.[17]

    narciso (ee31f1)

  242. You don’t want to vote for Romney, PeeWee, that’s your decision. You’re happy to see the Commander-Incompetent re-elected? Again… that’s your choice. But go sell crazy elsewhere. We already got more than our share with emperor and his sidekick, tyena.

    Colonel Haiku (637755)

  243. Sunday, August 05, 2012

    “The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Sunday shows Mitt Romney attracting 47% of the vote, while President Obama earns support from 45%. Five percent (5%) prefer some other candidate, and four percent (4%) are undecided.”

    Colonel Haiku (637755)

  244. Oh good Allah. WTF?!

    JD (fe70e3)

  245. narcisco

    Cruz is a havard lawyer who never cast a vote for a bill or to elect a republican

    EPWJ (d84fb0)

  246. Never cast a vote to elect a Republican?

    Care to support that?! Or are you just chafed because Dewhurst/Perry didn’t get appointed by acclimation? Use their cell numbers and offer my condolences.

    JD (fe70e3)

  247. Col

    oh I have to vote for romney but its the sucking up of resources that could be steered elsewhere especially towards candidates for the senate that his 150 or so electorial votes are going to be pyrrically expensive

    Romney isnt it come on its the realization that its not going to happen can start a movement

    People are going to have a progressive in the office this coming Jan question is can we stand another 8 years of a progressive or 4 years of a cornered lame duck progressive

    I cant afford to see my fellow texans, hoosiers, and vols suffer even more in a swept 8 years of a progressive romney administration with David Souter appointments and clever working goverment plans which we just found out are really a tax

    EPWJ (d84fb0)

  248. are you Mark McKinnon, who wrote one of the most ridiculous pieces in the Daily Basilisk this week;

    narciso (ee31f1)

  249. JD

    I remember that you were extreme;ly harsh on McCain right?

    I’m being realistic – Romney has alot of apologist because he needs them Perry and Dewhurst have records of conservativism that is foolish to challenge because you will lose credibility.

    Greg Abbott supervised Cruz, appointed Cruz and himself fought those cases that Cruz says he won – yes Crus was there right next to abbott.

    And authoring briefs to Courts is something all lawyers do.

    Dewhurst took on democrats who fought like wild dogs, labor unuions, liberal federal judges, and was wildly successful

    Cruz is a fine person, but he’s jumping on a band wagon that picked him more for a persona than for personal achievements

    EPWJ (d84fb0)

  250. dipwad who longs to fellate Urkel…what makes you think gridlock in DC would stop your idol for continuing down the same disastrous path, issuing more executive orders and ignoring the Constitution to an even greater extent. apparently there’s a rumor out there that a whistleblower in Homeland Security avows that DHS is planning a false flag assassination attempt on the messiah to gin up black and latino outrage to foment riots in big urban centers, “requiring” martial law and restrictions on all of our travels. Do I think it is true? No idea but would not put it past the likes of Jarrett, axelrod and Urkel, with soros pulling the strings. I’m sure that you, the lapdog media and far left whack jobs would be down with the idea and many of the stupid jackasses who buy into the propaganda will buy the racism crap, when the libtards (like you) are the actual racists.

    Calypso Louis Farrakhan (e799d8)

  251. JD

    Cruz was asked in the last debate whe he never voted in a republican primary until just a few short years ago

    He got visibly angry and started about how his dad was cuban and lost his composure – never answered the question

    EPWJ (d84fb0)

  252. We just threw a bonified conservatve Lt Gov under the bus for a Harvard Liberal who has never had a job except as an ivory towered lawyer for the Senate in Texas.

    Somebody is out of touch- I will leave it for others to decide if it is EPWJ or me.

    Like narciso said, I’ve heard about Cruz on Hewitt and other places, “Harvard” had been mentioned but never “Liberal”, in fact I thought he was the Tea Party endorsed “real conservative” as opposed to the “establishment semi-conservative”. In fact, I have to wonder if EPWJ knows anything about anything after this claim.

    In fact, I think it was Cruz who said getting elected is just the beginning because then all of the true conservatives would have to keep pressure on Romney and everybody else to do the right thing and not Dem-lite.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  253. Colonel,

    The Pat Buchanan/Ron Paul/Matt Lewis wing of conservatism would rather see people suffer the next four years, than vote for Romney.

    Of course, their premise of believing that we should actually look past Mitt and instead set our sights on 2016 for the conservative savior is severely flawed. They cling to this bizarre notion that centrist Democrats, independents, and moderates are all just waiting on pins and needles for a Reagan or Goldwater conservative—but until then, they’re satisfied to vote for Obama !—is plain nuts.

    Meanwhile, many good honest Americans (many of them retired, on a fixed income) will suffer the next four years if Obama is re-elected.

    Anyone who is content to vote for Obama in 2012 is definintely not looking for Burke/Madison/Coolidge/Goldwater/Reagan conservatism in 2012 or 2016.

    Whether we’re choosing a job, a house, a wife, a car, a necktie, or a movie to watch, we all so very often select the best available option to us, rather than the perfect idealized choice inside our head.
    Why these kooky utopians will do so in so many aspects of their daily life—yet not when voting for a President, is just a passive-aggressive attitude to take against their fellow citizens who so desperately seek relief from the policies of the Obama Administration.

    The paleoconservatives are just a bunch of kooky utopians who cling to their guns and religion fantasies and theories to explain away their own irrational behavior.

    Elephant Stone (65d289)

  254. Some people I do not trust to be a good historian. I remember being told it was over when Perry entered. I was hard on McCain, yes. And I am no fan of Romney. But your claims lake basis in fact and reality. I would much rather have Palin and Ryan, but we don’t.

    JD (fe70e3)

  255. Cruz was asked in the last debate whe he never voted in a republican primary until just a few short years ago

    And?! You just refuted your own ASSertion. Bravo.

    JD (fe70e3)

  256. Elephant – calling people purists and paleocons and all the other crap you throw at them for not falling in lockstep with you adherence to party first is rarely helpful, and often hurtful.

    JD (fe70e3)

  257. Col

    Anyone with a pulse, you, JD, HF would be leading Obama by a strong double digits

    Romney hqas made himself, with his conduct in the primary, in his business life and in his refusal to at least release the amounts of total income and taxes paid – Romney is showing he is as destable as the worst president in history

    thats what the polls are telling me

    EPWJ (d84fb0)

  258. Meanwhile, many good honest Americans (many of them retired, on a fixed income) will suffer the next four years if Obama is re-elected

    and how would this be different under Romney the progressive vs Obama the progressive?

    EPWJ (d84fb0)

  259. ==Is Romney any of your first 3 choices for the Nomination?==

    Do we have to go through all this again? It really doesn’t matter now, does it? Why do you even bring it up? The primary period is over and Mitt is the nominee for 2012. In life, healthy adults play with the cards they’re dealt rather than mooning about the hand they wanted and hoped to get, but didn’t.

    As far as the Senate, yes! A big tent Team R majority there will be beneficial along with the presidency. Why do you always position it as an either-or proposition? Many of us work in environments where we have to “overlap” and constantly do a version of (non-medical) triage. See, some of us can focus and work on two or more complex projects/campaigns at the same time.

    As far as having a “weak disastrous president”, those are your words. So far we only know for sure that one of them fits that description and it ain’t Mitt. You really are a downer aren’t you?. A gloomy Gus. A glass half empty kind of guy. I can probably come up with a few more trite expressions but I need to go walk the dog.

    elissa (eb8e22)

  260. I have expressed my many reservations about Romney, but on balance he had a good week, you wouldn’t know it by the press coverage, even in the Journal’s news pages which is thoroughly useless,

    narciso (ee31f1)

  261. I imagine to many mimosas on Prince Nahyan’s yacht, accounts for it.

    narciso (ee31f1)

  262. A Romney presidency on its worst day would be infinitely better than what we’ve been stuck with since January 2009. As a voter, I want it all… the White House and both Houses of Congress.

    Colonel Haiku (637755)

  263. Elissa, I have always thought the guy was a Moby. His posting history is very very telling.

    Simon Jester (f0bb73)

  264. PeeWee insists on peddling crazy.

    Colonel Haiku (637755)

  265. Romney hqas made himself, with his conduct in the primary, in his business life and in his refusal to at least release the amounts of total income and taxes paid – Romney is showing he is as destable as the worst president in history

    I cannot stand Romney. I cannot stand made up unadulterated BS even more.

    JD (fe70e3)

  266. Col

    Romneys best day was p[assing a sweeping medical tax that has now been used nationally and will really cause pain and suffering

    That was his best day…..

    EPWJ (d84fb0)

  267. That was his best day…..

    I could almost guarantee that Romney would not even list that in his top 3 or 4 days.

    JD (fe70e3)

  268. Elissa, I have always thought the guy was a Moby. His posting history is very very telling.
    Comment by Simon Jester — 8/5/2012 @ 5:16 pm

    Anybody here, anybody, especially Texans, who would characterize Cruz vs. Dewhurst as EPWJ did?

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  269. JD

    Really? Romney did carve up companies all predatory firms do, and yes its apart of the business cycle and I will agree that these firms even ASKED him to do this. Yes its free enterprize and all that but its not something that most people will do or even come into contact with and I have found these firms to be predatory because its their nature and apart of our free enterprize system to do so and its also necessary.

    They are the necessary buzzards of capitalism.

    Does anyone have the buzzard as a state bird? IE he’s not packaging it people are not buying it and not disclosing his returns is strengthening his critics rediculous positions and actually making that POS Obama look reasonably untainted to some and Obama just needs some. Romey needs Some and more than some.

    He’s blown it

    EPWJ (d84fb0)

  270. Engrish, Por favor?!¡

    JD (fe70e3)

  271. Bigjolly did MD

    So did many other and these people’s credentials as conservatives are not in question.

    Cruz I would have supported him if Dewhurst was not running, Cruz could end up being very conservative – BUT WE DONT KNOW – HE NEVER HAS VOTED – NEVER STATED A POSITION

    People are eally angey at Dewhursat and so was I when he waffed on a voter ID bill because he said a jusge would just throw it out – yes I was angry and so were most Republicans – but he did pass it when he had more votes in the next session and lo and behold a judge threw it out

    He sacrificed a huge amount of political capital

    Does anyone have a statement from Mr. Cruz on the issue?

    Nope

    EPWJ (d84fb0)

  272. JD

    Eh my english is a good as it gets

    I need to find those pesky punctuation key thingys

    EPWJ (d84fb0)

  273. looking for comment from anyone but EPWJ

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  274. MD

    You can look looking for a comment from anyone but MD on Dewhurst anyone who has a liberal act that Dewhurst did. Anyone but MD

    EPWJ (d84fb0)

  275. HE NEVER HAS VOTED

    You are contradicting yourself, again.

    JD (fe70e3)

  276. This is in part a proxy fight, between the Washington establishment, that previously favored
    Kay Bay and now Dewhurst, Sarah almost singlehandedly carried Perry to the nomination, and was a significant player along with Demint, in Cruz’s victory, that was the subtext, behind Cheney’s remarks last week,

    narciso (ee31f1)

  277. JD

    He has never voted for a bill or an issue. Its one thing to have never held elected office to criticize one of thes most conservative Texas leaders while not ever being on the issue.

    Cruz got elected in a throw out the incumbant mood that is easily swept up in Texas they dont relect people all that much as in other states.

    Also nopte the absolute glee and joy in the liberal Texas newspapers at the prospect that Perry and Dewhurst will fall in 2 years

    Then after reading those go back abnd reflect that Cruz had better become the 2nd coming of Lincoln, Adams and John Wayne because he’s caused alot of damage for an office he hasnt lived up to.

    If any govt lawyer appointed, can just sign up and give warm smiles to gaggles of Tea Parties and get a lifelong appt to the senate without any bonifieds then we are all cooked

    EPWJ (d84fb0)

  278. You can look looking for a comment from anyone but MD on Dewhurst anyone who has a liberal act that Dewhurst did. Anyone but MD
    Comment by EPWJ — 8/5/2012 @ 5:33 pm

    Was that really necessary?

    You had already made your opinion of Cruz vs. Dewhurst known, I didn’t need to see your opinion again when I asked for others to chime in, yet you seemed obligated to repeat yourself, hence I clarified my request

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  279. Upon further review I think what we have here is a combination of moby and mimosa.

    elissa (eb8e22)

  280. Sooner or later, this guy will get a new prescription for anti-manic behavior and will go away. Such a loon.

    Simon Jester (f0bb73)

  281. Elissa: moby, mimosa, and mesoridazine, I think.

    Simon Jester (f0bb73)

  282. Is the 2 for 1 crazee sale over?

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  283. “You’re talking to a guy who travels coast to coast and border to border every year… there are bad things going on in this country. Too many empty storefronts, too many closed down businesses – the ‘economic recovery’ Obama has been spinning is not happening. The only answer socialists seem to have for it is to try over and over again. Look at the results. Look at the results of throwing money down a black hole in Washington.

    … We change the nation by putting people back to work again… I’m a Christian; I believe in helping people who can’t help themselves. I do not believe in helping people who can help themselves. Instead of putting them on the dole, put them on the payroll.”

    – Charlie Daniels

    Colonel Haiku (637755)

  284. EPWJ, I am delighted that Cruz was nominated. I don’t see what damage was caused. It’s not like Dewhurst’s days are done or anything. We need stronger Senators.

    Frankly it doesn’t take much to be an effective Senator. Have a spine and you’re better than most.

    He is a gifted attorney and he’s qualified for the job.

    Dustin (73fead)

  285. In the Senate race, Dewhurst never created an identity separate from Rick Perry. He even used Perry’s campaign team. That didn’t work out so well given Perry’s declining ratings after his Presidential campaign. I suspect both Perry and Dewhurst would have a hard time getting re-elected if they were running today.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  286. 270. I have no idea why the WSJ is considered conservative, or for that matter its sister corp, Fox News.

    Must be by comparison.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  287. The roads, crossed many years ago,

    http://blog.chron.com/rickperry/2011/09/meet-rick-perrys-karl-rove/

    The OP Ed page, is still one of the best exponents, sans Noonan, the rest of the paper, might as well
    your Minneapolis tribune,

    narciso (ee31f1)

  288. Gary Gulrud,

    You’re making the mistake of confusing the WSJ’s editorial pages with its news pages. Their editorial board is generally pretty conservative, while their news pages are generally pretty liberal.

    Elephant Stone (65d289)

  289. Here’s why Texans like Ted Cruz.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  290. EPWJ,

    You sound like another one of the Daily Kos Army by attempting to depress conservative turnout in November, with your attacks on Bain Capital and Ted Cruz.

    You infer that you believe Dewhurst is more reliably conservative than Ted Cruz, and you believe that Obama is equally conservative (or equally as liberal—take your pick) as Romney.

    A company like Bain comes to the rescue of businesses that are already in trouble. I know that you liberals can’t grasp the concept of personnel reductions—unless it involves evil jobs at coal plants, nuclear plants, or in some facet of oil production—but there are instances when a company must legitimately reduce overhead/payroll in order to save the company.
    And if the company is not saved, then everyone loses their job.

    So, it’s better that ten or twenty or thirty people lose their job, in order to reduce overhead costs and thereby save the other one, or two, or three hundred jobs that will inevitably be lost if the company is dissolved. As much as Obama believes business success is predicated on roads, bridges, and access to the internet, business success actually has a lot to do with vision, business acumen, and the ability to adapt and transition in an ever-changing world.

    A lot of Democrat politicians have defended Bain Capital—including current Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick, and Newark, NJ Mayor Cory Booker.

    Bain are not buzzards—what they do is attempt to inject life into a troubled company.

    Elephant Stone (65d289)

  291. “Bain” is a dog whistle.

    elissa (eb8e22)

  292. @ DRJ (#299 — 8/5/2012 @ 8:34 pm), I had the same thought when I watched that interview. And I thought to myself, “A lot of people around the country who’d heard of his victory, but who’d never heard him speak, just had their jaws drop — in approving amazement.”

    He’s always sharp, but he was in top form. I think he’s transplanted into politics — including press appearances like this one — the ruthless and honed clock discipline, the tight rhythms, that are common to top-notch appellate advocates. Appellate advocates never know when they’re going to be interrupted and the subject instantly shifted elsewhere, so they pace themselves to make absolutely the best use of each burst of speech they’re permitted.

    The rhetorical contrast between Ted Cruz and that sad sack of a Democratic hack who was on before him, David Axelrod, was stark. And bracing.

    Between now and November, Romney needs to drag Ted Cruz along on a lot of campaign stops outside of Texas.

    Beldar (277e62)

  293. The closest thing to which I can compare Ted Cruz’ rhetorical pacing would be the movements of a master bullfighter. When he is still, he is very still; and when he unfolds himself, it’s like he’s seized control of the entire bull ring, including every breathing being, human or animal, inside it. And then he’s still again, and you’re waiting to see what he’ll do next.

    Beldar (277e62)

  294. 302-Between now and November, Romney needs to drag Ted Cruz along on a lot of campaign stops outside Texas.
    You betcha!!

    mg (44de53)

  295. Beldar

    Cruz didnt have to do anything, the Texas electorate is spitting angry and any incumbent that draws a well funded opponent (which isnt as common as it seems) is toast.

    I hope everyone’s sudden faith in Ted Cruz is well placed because you ball have nothing to measure theman on – he has no resume, no issues campaigned for nobody.

    I find that people who come out of nowhere are a wild card – is that really what we needed?

    Texans wanted to hang em some politicians also thousands of democrats took the opportunity to oust Dewhurst someone will figure it out that the fix was in

    Liberals froth at the mouth against Dewhurst and Perry,sure lets throw em out because Texas spend less than any state, has an outstanding recrd of success – thats any reason to oust the politicians who sacrificed popularity for doing the right thing

    EPWJ (2a58f7)

  296. E-stone

    I agree with everything you said – moving on back to the real world – in a depression – a guy who lays people off for a living, might have a tough time getting those idiot fence sitters to want to vote for em right?

    Also, guys, when did Romney become a conservative?

    EPWJ (2a58f7)

  297. MD

    I’m still waiting for you to actually find any conservative stance Cruz took.

    chime away, oh not a speech, where he raised money, campaigned, actually participated

    EPWJ (2a58f7)

  298. 299. That’s what I’m talking about.

    Between Cruz and Rubio we have two of the more stunningly competent speakers I can remember.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  299. ==Romney doesnt have a prayer. He’s starting to fall even farther behind, time to shore up the senate and house races==

    So, we now see you weren’t even sincere about that second part –considering how much effort you’ve spent here dissing and attacking (future Senator) Cruz. You have a unique definition of what “shore up” means unless of course, as Simon suggests, you were writing as someone whose real goal is to attempt to “shore up” the House and Senate (as well as the presidency) for the Dems.

    elissa (7f3b85)

  300. elissa,

    My motives are simply this: To elect Romney – at best an outside shot – we would have to sacrifice the Senate (the house is out of reach)

    chances of a Republican senate are rare, and Romney as Gov showed a propensity to compromise so even if that miracle should occur he would be no different from Obama.

    Cruz is an unknown, it was reckless and foolish to sideline a real oilman, who wouldhave been the first to be elected to the senate and replace him with a havard lawyer who has no concept of the real world.

    EPWJ (2a58f7)

  301. Dewhurst is a good friend to the oil industry that is so important to Texas, Eric, but don’t let that blind you to his flaws or Cruz’s more conservative stand on the issues.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  302. Well DRJ after Cornyn voted for Geithner, I’m right to be skeptical, but he was a longtime elected official,

    http://votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/15375/

    narciso (ee31f1)

  303. Again, look at this guy’s posting history. To be very kind, he is not a champion of truth. Just a collection of weird ideas that are seldom moored in reality.

    He’s nice to Patterico. That counts. Otherwise, just a loon.

    Simon Jester (f0bb73)

  304. MD
    I’m still waiting for you to actually find any conservative stance Cruz took.
    chime away, oh not a speech, where he raised money, campaigned, actually participated
    Comment by EPWJ — 8/6/2012 @ 4:43 am

    I’m going to say this once and make it clear.

    You were the one who characterized Cruz as a “Harvard Liberal”, something others here who know more than me have not done, that Sarah Palin has not done, that Hugh Hewitt has not done. None of those people are perfect, but they all are people who really do like conservatives not “Harvard Liberals”

    You may have 101 legitimate criticisms of Cruz, some of which you pointed out, but when you go beyond what are valid points and say stuff that looks more like disinformation or shows that your view of the world is skewed you made a mistake. Keep on trying to obfuscate and distract, as that is all Obama and the Dems have.

    Your comment that “Cruz is a Harvard Liberal” gives a pretty quick read on how insightful and meaningful your views are from a conservative perspective. I hope your day job is not with the CIA, FBI, or NSA.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  305. 307. Pee Wee, just go to DRJ’s link. Close down Dept. of Education, TSA, yada, yada.

    Give it up.

    Schlong is done, whether we get a third party run or not. A TEA candidate would only bring in those otherwise not voting for the majors.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  306. EPWJ, your “motives” appear to be your justifications for abandoning the Presidency. And your “motives” are just bizarre.

    The only way I’ve ever made even the slightest sense of your comments, EPWJ, is to assume that you are flacking for the oil biz.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  307. EPWJ is no moby. His comments to JD recently ticked me off more than I let on, but I think he’s pretty sincere as far as politics goes.

    He appears to value a politician’s accommodation of the energy industry. I don’t he values this for dishonest reasons, but it seems to be his main factor. Oh, I see SPQR beat me to the punch on this point. Dammit.

    I think there many factors and that Cruz is a better balance. For one, I want a Senator who sees himself as an obstacle for the federal government’s constant growth, not a partner.

    Anyway, I can empathize with those who are frustrated to see the GOP nominate ‘the wrong guy’. We’ve all been there many times. We have to make a conscious effort to let it go after the primary. The stakes are too high. As we fight hard in primaries, we are making a real difference in the GOP. It’s simply not a fast fix.

    Dustin (73fead)

  308. Dustin, historically, the guy is a Walter Mitty braggart nuttier than a PayDay Bar. I appreciate your being nice, but get out the yellow legal pad. List the straightforward things he has posted. Then the nutty stuff. Compare.

    He is following his usual MO after getting into trouble: no posts, some reasonable posts, my way or the highway posts, and then over the top weirdness. We are moving into Stage Three now.

    My opinion isn’t important. I’m just an infrequent commenter on someone else’s blog. But I have been present for the earlier outbursts over the years. Time will tell if this is different .

    Simon Jester (f0bb73)

  309. Simon, I realize you’re justified. For whatever reason, a lot of these arguments, whether they involve EPWJ or not, become pile ons. EPWJ hasn’t reacted to these well, I think partly because he resents accusations about his motivations that aren’t correct (but are sincere).

    But I’m not here to analyze others. I think EPWJ is an honorable person who has made some goofups in his commenting (the one about JD is prominent). I can’t say I’m any better.

    Folks should try, as hard as it is, to avoid making it personal.

    Dustin (73fead)

  310. Listen, no listen, engage no engage, fun no fun. Get jobs.

    nk (875f57)

  311. EPWJ,

    If you “are” a conservative, you’re the only one in the country who believes that Ted Cruz is a secret liberal—what paranoia.

    And if you believe we need to concede the race for the White House to Obama, and focus our “conservative” energy on taking back the Senate, then why are you bad-mouthing Ted Cruz ?

    Some of you old paleocons (if indeed you are one) just don’t get that once the primary is over—the primary is over. And the electorate will be governed by one of the two major party candidates who wins in November. There is no “none of the above” option. One of the candidates will govern you whether you like it or not. Ask Wesley Snipes how the “opt out” choice is working for him. Keep in mind, his visiting hours are limited.

    We must choose the best available option that exists at the time…just as we do on a daily basis when buying a house, a car, a shirt, a flavor of ice cream, a pair of shoes, or a movie to watch on Saturday night.

    It’s possible that you’re one of those disaffected Ron Paul supporters who wants to take his football and go home when he doesn’t get thrown the ball enough during the game.

    The premise that “Romney = Obama” is an algebraic equation that would get you sent down to remedial math.

    If you really are a capitalist, you would understand that a business’ objective is to make profits. Liberals believe that a business is obligated to carry people on payroll, whether it makes good business sense or not—just as it is done in government bureaucracy.

    Romney needs to explain to the Fred Flintstones of the world that the actual story about company X is that he SAVED the company with Bain’s infusion of capital and restructuring strategies that may have involved laying off 15 people.

    Elephant Stone (65d289)

  312. As long as politicians are in the pockets of Big Oil, EPWJ is fine with them. Otherwise, they are unqualified, crooks, liberals, adulterers, bad parents, uneducated, or whatever smear he can dredge up.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  313. Daley

    I was not aware that Dewhurst, Perry, et al were in the “pocket” of big oil. The oil industry in the United States has the capacity to employ nearly 125,000 people directly and 2 million indirectlty. Also the oil industry collect nearly 20% of the federal taxes directly and indirectly.

    They are the most taxed and regulated industry in the country and perform one of the most vital tasks – fueling the American economy.

    But thats okay everyone can walk right – ride a bike – sit in the dark etc – lets elect more lawyers and less businessmen (and women) to congress because we all know how thats been working out so far….

    EPWJ (2925ff)

  314. Elephant

    We dont KNOW who Tesd Cruz is. He was appointed just like Roberts and Souter and now he ran for elected office and basically let the angry wave of Tea Party and mistrust of weashington do his work for them.

    We had a bonified true blue conservative oilman with an unmatched record of success and achievement up ended by a appointee lawyer with no pedigree.

    Lets hope that Cruz is indeed the second coming of the conservative others are satying he is and that they are correct.

    Sure lets gamble with the american dream and way right? After all, throwing away votes on people we have no idea what they are going to do works out just dandy sometimes…. lets hope this time…

    I get quesy when the liberal papers in Texas think that Cruz is a good guy.

    EPWJ (2925ff)

  315. Simon,

    I understand what you are saying, look, Cruz and Romney are separate issues

    First Issue = is it worth sacrificing our chances by allocating massive overly massive resources to help at best – a weasel spineless Romney into the Office to replace a progressive moron of epic proportions.

    Second Issue = Cruz scares me, that he is going to go there and gradually turn progressive like Kay. Its not an unknown – and we know how Dewhurst responded to the deep deep pressure of state politics

    These are separate issues.

    And I have conceded also that I would have supported Cruz, I think Cruz has a chance to be a great Texas leader and would have liked to have seen him run for statewide office first or as a State Senator and bring some order to that Zoo in austin

    In a time when we need businessmen and women not more freakin lawyers in washington – what did we get?

    Speeches on the floor of the senate are great for feelings and short on changing votes

    EPWJ (2925ff)

  316. And as far as abandoning – Romney has what plan to turn us around?

    Reagan wasnt a brain surgeon, wasnt all that conservative, more of an old school moderate. But he knew what to do, encourage the econom,y by two things, gutting regulations, lowering some tax rates.

    In the end Reagan caved, but Bush didnt, as I run collection stats for several states on sales taxes and all taxes collected – 2004 through 2007 were the best years ever in American History.

    Whooops the main stream media missed that now didnt they.

    Give your vote to Romney, give your money to the RNC senatorial committee

    EPWJ (2925ff)

  317. ==We dont KNOW who Tesd Cruz is==

    Yes we do. He is currently the one and only duly nominated Republican U.S. Senate candidate in Texas. At the moment all else is smoke. You’re entitled to your own opinion of course, but calling the voters stupid who cast their ballots to nominate Cruz, insinuating they were unmindful, or suggesting that voting for him was/is “throwing away votes” does not sit well for many who value their electoral freedom and does not reflect well on you.

    elissa (7f3b85)

  318. elissa,

    How many democrats jumped at the chance to get rid of Dewhurst? How many voted for Cruz?

    EPWJ (2925ff)

  319. What do you speculate he’s hiding, other than the obvious venereal disease and poor grades ?

    What about drugs? After all, didn’t tye and his friends keep telling us for years that that was why Bush skipped his flight physical after he had stopped flying? It couldn’t have been, we were told, because he thought it was pointless to requalify for flight once he’d been notified that his plane had been grounded and that he didn’t have enough time left to justify the expense of training him on a different plane. No, it had to be because the checkup would reveal signs of drugs that he had begun using that very year (since they didn’t show up on all the previous annual physicals he had taken). So we know that in their view the only reason someone would keep their medical records secret is to hide drug usage, right?

    Milhouse (15b6fd)

  320. I have no idea, Eric, nor do you, and it doesn’t matter. Cruz is the nominee. Deal with it–or don’t. But quit kvetching and agitating here. Quit crying over spilt milk. It serves no practical purpose.

    elissa (7f3b85)

  321. Comment by Elephant Stone — 8/6/2012 @ 7:46 am

    There is no “none of the above” option.

    There is in Nevada, but it’s not counted as a real vote. Even if “None of the Above” wins a plurality, the leader among the actual people wins the election.

    This year, a third party candidate, who refuses to say whether he will caucus with the Democrats or the Republicans, will probably win the U.S. Senate race.

    Maine Race Complicates Struggle for the Senate

    Poll Confirms Huge Lead for King in Maine Senate Race

    As Maine Goes, So Goes….Vermont?

    Sammy Finkelman (609c6a)

  322. We just threw a bonified conservatve Lt Gov under the bus

    What does “bonified” mean? Is it like “ossified”, or does it mean “undernourished”?

    Milhouse (15b6fd)

  323. a Harvard Liberal who has never had a job except as an ivory towered lawyer for the Senate in Texas.

    In what universe is this even remotely true? Just a glance at his impressive resumé is enough to put the lie to EPWJ’s claim.

    Milhouse (15b6fd)

  324. What does “bonified” mean? Is it like “ossified”, or does it mean “undernourished”?

    Milhouse – I think EPWJ believes there is an Underwriters Laboratories certification for that appellation which should be universally accepted by all “right” thinking people.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  325. “How many democrats jumped at the chance to get rid of Dewhurst? How many voted for Cruz?”

    EPWJ – You tell us. You are raising the issue just like Reid’s smear of Romney.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  326. “And as far as abandoning – Romney has what plan to turn us around?”

    EPWJ – Visit his website. Those who keep claiming Romney has no plans just are not paying attention.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  327. “In a time when we need businessmen and women not more freakin lawyers in washington – what did we get?”

    EPWJ – Is Romney is businessman? Which other presidential candidates were?

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  328. “I was not aware that Dewhurst, Perry, et al were in the “pocket” of big oil.”

    EPWJ – You don’t have my network of sources.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  329. Dewhurst is a good friend to the oil industry

    All the more reason to be glad he won’t be a senator. Big business has never been a supporter of free enterprise.

    Milhouse (15b6fd)

  330. Milhouse

    my personal lawyer has the same resume but he also has an MBA from Clemson.

    My other lawyers also have impressive resumes, including landmark legislation in heavy industry.

    In fact about most lawyers including Beldar have equal resumes of importance.

    What Dewhurst had was bonifides, proven track record of where he stands under intense partisan pressure

    No where in Cruz’s resume ther than committee meetings and cases none of which indicates how he will conduct himself in the senate

    I’m looking for job creators, payroll makers, not litigators.

    But the point is vote for Cruz, send him your money, vote for Romney, send your money to the RNC Senatorial committee

    The exercise is – if we only have enough money to do one of two things – either decisively elect a nearly 60 vote republican senate or put Romney in office with a strong democrat senate

    What would you do you can only choose one

    EPWJ (2925ff)

  331. Daley,

    Investors are not generally considered to be businessman in the mode of creating a product and marketing it to the consumer, but he is far far far far and away a more savvy businessman than Obama – if he didnt pass a sweeping tax on all people in Mass, that is now being passed upon everyone in America – pardon me if I dont bask in the glow of his legislative achievements for progressive causes

    EPWJ (2925ff)

  332. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi fired back at Republicans who accuse Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of lying about a Bain Capital investor telling him that Mitt Romney hadn’t paid taxes in 10 years. “They don’t know what they’re talking about”, Pelosi says.”It Is A Fact that Somebody Told Harry Reid About Romney Not Paying Taxes.”‘

    Ah— we have another “it depends on what the meaning of ‘is’ is” from a prominent Dem. She is pretending that there is no lie because, hey, somebody really did tell Harry something. Probably that somebody was David Axelrod or Pfuffy. Of course what Republicans are calling the “lie” is the actual unsubstantiated allegation against Romney. And they questioned that any Bain “investor” would have had legal access to Romney’s personal tax returns. She is a trip. How much of the juice box media will fall for her sleight of hand?

    elissa (7f3b85)

  333. elissa

    and this blatant lie has derailed Romney and essentially lightly swiftboated him.

    He was warned by amny conservatives to disclose his income and he didnt, and the other side is going to lie and lie and lie.

    How many years has this guy been running for this office?

    EPWJ (2925ff)

  334. What does “bonified” mean? Is it like “ossified”, or does it mean “undernourished”?

    Milhouse – I think EPWJ believes there is an Underwriters Laboratories certification for that appellation which should be universally accepted by all “right” thinking people.

    I’m not questioning who can use the term, I just want to know what it means. I have a very large vocabulary, but this word isn’t in it. I assume it has something to do with bones, hence my suggestions of “ossified” and “undernourished”.

    Milhouse (15b6fd)

  335. EPWJ,

    For a guy who uses “liberal” as a perjorative to characterize just about everyone whose surname isn’t “Paul,” you sure are accepting of another four years of Obama’s Alinskyite Administration.

    You may have enough money stashed away to see you through another four years of lunacy, but there are millions of Americans who do not have that luxury.

    Your assault on Reagan is yet another poker-tell moment. Like Obama a few weeks ago with his “you didn’t build that !,” you too are showing us a little ankle.

    Reagan was actually extremely intelligent and he was a legitimate conservative. Go watch his Goldwater ’64 speech that he gave several days before that election—you can often find it posted at YouTube.com
    Reagan also wrote all of his own radio commentaries that were broadcast nationally during the 1970s. He was extremely well-read. In the 60’s, he and Senator Robert Kennedy debated one another on live television via satellite, based on questions from a satellite set up at a British college debating society. Reagan took both Kennedy and the British students to the cleaners, elicting Kennedy to walk off the set and ask his awaiting aides, “Who the hell signed me up to debate this guy !?

    The alleged “amiable dunce” aspersion is typical of a liberal to propogate. Reagan was certainly slowed down (both mentally and physically) quite a bit by the assassination attempt a mere two months into his presidency, but he was known to be a very hard-working, intelligent person.
    The Secret Service agents report that Reagan was out there on his ranch north of Santa Barbara, kicking tail, clearing brush, and doing some hard work in the heat of the day—and that was not just a photo opp.

    Doris Day recounts in her autobiography with A.E. Hotchner that she and Ronnie used to date when they made a couple movies together, and that she was frustrated that their dinner dates morphed into him passionately focusing on discussing politics and philosophy, when she says she just wanted to have a few drinks and listen to some live music. Jane Wyman apparently got frustrated that he spent so much time reading books, newspapers, and focusing on politics. (And both Day and Wyman are/were lifelong Republicans.)

    As far as your premise that Reagan was some sort of squishy moderate, he existed on planet earth, and recognized that the Founding Fathers had set up a system that intentionally fosters slow change thru consensus—that way, passions and tempers would not rule the day…or rule the people, for that matter.

    Most partisans fail to see that while they may want the system to work at warp speed when THEIR party is in power, there is the risk of that being the case when the other party is in power. The Founding Fathers presciently foresaw that.

    Reagan also believed in the 70% rule (or 80% rule, as it’s sometimes expressed)about how someone who agrees with him that percentage of the time is his friend—not his enemy.
    That is the reality of politics. You can’t always get 100% of what you want. You often have to give the other side a little of what they want in order to make things happen.

    But getting 70% of what you want is much preferable to getting 0%.

    Reagan admitted that his abortion bill signing as Governor of CA was a huge mistake—but that does not make him a liberal.
    Also, the Democrats lied to him when he made the deal about taxes/spending cuts…they never followed thru on their solemn promise to cut spending as agreed to.

    Elephant Stone (65d289)

  336. my personal lawyer has the same resume

    So why did you claim that TX SG was Cruz’s only job? You surely knew that was an outright lie.

    Milhouse (15b6fd)

  337. Harvard Liberal

    First charge against Cruz by EPWJ, IMO everything since then has been obfuscation appearing to be reasoned debate to cover for his slip up.

    As obfuscation and misdirection persist, I may repeat this as a reminder. He had an opportunity to make a reasoned case and blew it. He had a chance to backtrack and put his comment in better context, but he too doubled-down.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  338. Investors are not generally considered to be businessman in the mode of creating a product and marketing it to the consumer,

    What does that even mean? Considered by whom? What privileges these “considerers'” opinions? And what does “in the mode” mean?

    Milhouse (15b6fd)

  339. “pardon me if I dont bask in the glow of his legislative achievements for progressive causes”

    EPWJ – Pardon me if I don’t place any credibility on your comments.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  340. MD

    I’m not charging Cruz with anything other than not having any record of being a legislator.

    We have a litigator who served on many faceless committees that didnt amount to anything and we have a leader who accomplished widespread success against formidable partisan opposition in
    Texas

    The fact that I’m bringing up the stinging and quite embarassing point that no one really vetted Cruz and we may not really know how he’s going to represent Texas in a crucial close vote – such as repealing healthcare or lowering taxes

    Dont blame me.

    Blame those who outside Texas funded Cruz and the democrats who voted him in

    EPWJ (2925ff)

  341. Daley

    Was the passing of a democrat initiated universal healthcare tax on all of the citizens of Mass a conservative idea?

    EPWJ (2925ff)

  342. EPWJ-
    Had you started out with legitimate points I would have listened to you. You didn’t, you started with an absurd statement and have tried to cover your tracks. Sorry.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  343. EPWJ, he’s been running for office for so many years that he shouldn’t have any copies of any tax returns that would shut Harry Reid up.

    He was elected to the Taxachussetts governorship a decade ago, for the love of Pete!

    I don’t know about you, but I don’t keep records any longer than I have to so the IRS can go on a fishing expedition. And 10 years is beyond the legal limit.

    Romney’s finances are beyond the point now. We’ve entered the realm of insanity. If he releases 20 years of tax returns, the Democrats will lie about what he was up to in the ’80s. If he releases 30 years of tax returns, they’ll lie about what shenanigans he was up to in the ’70s.

    Harry Reid stood on the Senate floor and talked about where Romney was “hiding” his money. The reason he knew where he was “hiding” it was because Romney reported it in his tax returns. This is the bizarro world we live in; report your income, and the Dems will lie about you trying to hide the income you reported.

    I’m sure the Dems think this will fly because their constituents have largely never seen a form 1040. Let alone whatever forms the spawn of Satan has dreamed up that Romney has to fill out.

    So tell me? Other than proving he’ll dance to the Obama’s tune what do you imagine Romney will achieve by releasing any of his tax returns?

    Steve57 (5797fd)

  344. EPWJ,

    Dude, you’ve spent much more time blasting conservatives than liberals.

    That type of time management tends to be the domain of a liberal.

    Nice try.

    Elephant Stone (65d289)

  345. Good of you to fight this fight AFTER the primary. EPWJ doesn’t like it when you mess with his establishment.

    JD (75bed3)

  346. EPWJ – How many Democrats voted Cruz in? You raised the issue, support it.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  347. EPWJ,

    You sit here and pontificate about how we don’t “really know” how Ted Cruz will vote in the US Senate, therefore, we can’t support him !

    Yet at the same time, we “do know” the intentions of Obama and his Alinskyite plans for “transforming America” into a utopian European bureaucratic state…yet that doesn’t seem to animate you.

    You are more afraid of Ted Cruz than Barack Obama.
    (Pssssst….we refer to that type of individual as “a left winger.”)

    Elephant Stone (65d289)

  348. “EPWJ doesn’t like it when you mess with his establishment.”

    JD – Plus Chillbilly trailer trash supported Cruz. Enuf said.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  349. JD

    You are correct – I was distracted with a legal battle for control over one of my lakes by two neighbors that cumulated in a several day trial and didnt really follow Cruz and Dewhurst all that much.

    I said to vote for him, send him money, vote for Romney – but send Romney’s money to the RNC Senatorial campaign

    But maybe I’m overreacting to Roberts stunning betrayal gee that guy was soo conservative.

    EPWJ (2925ff)

  350. Daley

    Simple google the county votes and look at the massive votes he got in the 70% democrat counties

    but you already knew that – but like JD said – its painful and damaging for me to be bringing up again we have not vetted an crucuially important senate seat and we are going to find out who Cruz is when he casts his votes

    Also I believe the conservative think tanks rate senators on their votes not their speeches

    EPWJ (2925ff)

  351. Running around with the goalposts flinging feces.

    JD (75bed3)

  352. E-stone

    point to a fact a vote that Cruz took for a conservative issue

    Court cases dont count he was assigned those by his boss

    EPWJ (2925ff)

  353. JD

    Again, Cruz is possibly a conservative. You have to ask yourself how did a guy with no backing, no legislative history, decide to run against a monolith politician and the one thing that struck me about Cruz was – he always acted like he had the race won almost a year ago.

    That’s not a criticism, that’s just an observation.

    But you’re right, it is fling feces on the voters of Texas when someone runs but doesnt run on anything

    EPWJ (2925ff)

  354. EPWJ holds anyone that does not hold his views in abject disdain.

    JD (75bed3)

  355. So now our resident Daily Kos plant EPWJ is establishing the goalposts so that if you’ve never been a legislator, we shouldn’t elect you to the US Senate on account of the fact that you don’t have a historical record of votes for us to assess.

    In other words, EPWJ believes that only career legislators need apply !

    That’s so awesome….spoken like a true liberal.

    Elephant Stone (65d289)

  356. shirley he can’t be serious;

    narciso (ee31f1)

  357. Eric,

    I can understand being concerned after Roberts’ ObamaCare ruling, but Ted Cruz is a Texan. That’s completely different.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  358. Also, Dewhurst works hard for business and I like that, but his efforts on issues like the anti-groping bill (which I don’t really care about, but he should have done more to pass it if he supported it) and the anti-sanctuary cities bills did not impress me.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  359. “Simple google the county votes and look at the massive votes he got in the 70% democrat counties”

    EPWJ – I’m looking for you to support the allegation you made, not for me to do the work. Quantify it for me, how many Democrats voted for Cruz?

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  360. “EPWJ doesn’t like it when you mess with his establishment.”

    JD – 2010 Alaskan Senate race, Joe Miller vs. Lisa Morecokeski. EPWJ goes for corrupt establishment Princess Skeeza and smears Joe Miller.

    Dots – Pattern – Connect

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  361. ==maybe I’m overreacting==

    You should write that in ink on the side of your hand where you can see it and think about it as you type comments –and then look at it once again right before you hit “send”, Eric.

    This is not snark from me. It is a sincere and good intentioned suggestion.

    elissa (7f3b85)

  362. Wow, so Mr. EPWJ who is always exclaiming, “I’m a conservative, really, you have to trust me!” supported that squishy moderate establishment-type who is allegedly Republican Lisa Murkowski over Tea Party favorite Joe Miller in the Alaska Senate race in 2010 ?

    The Twilight Zone irony of it all is that Mr. EPWJ is always screaming that we can’t support Ted Cruz due to the fact he doesn’t have a legislative record to assess—you know, since he’s not a career politician and such.

    Well, Mr. Tough Talkin’ EPWJ, “your” voting record seems to suggest you have a history of supporting squishy moderate establishment types in the GOP primaries, rather than the conservative candidate.

    I think you’ve swallowed too much chewin’ tobbakker, there, bub.

    Elephant Stone (65d289)

  363. Eric,

    If you are right that Cruz had support from Democratic districts, what makes you assume it was from liberals? Here is a link to the election results from the Office of the Texas Secretary of State. Cruz did better than Dewhurst throughout Texas, including in Dallas and Houston/Harris, but he also did well in Hispanic counties like Bexar. Isn’t it possible that Texas Hispanics who typically vote for Democrats crossed over to vote for Cruz?

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  364. Obama is letting his attack dog off the chain.

    Icy (4d7b3f)

  365. “Isn’t it possible that Texas Hispanics who typically vote for Democrats crossed over to vote for Cruz?”

    I’m unclear why there is any assumption of cross over voting. Was it indicated in exit polling or commentary?

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  366. I’m not saying there was a crossover vote, daleyrocks.

    I understood Eric’s point was that liberal districts voted for Cruz. If that happened — and I don’t see anything that suggests it did because the voting patterns look the same as 2008 — then I wondered how he knows the voters who crossed over were liberal Democrats. Isn’t it more likely that they were Hispanic Democrats who wanted to support Cruz because of his race, rather than liberal Democrats who think he will be another John Roberts?

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  367. Comment by Steve57 — 8/6/2012 @ 9:55 am

    I’m sure the Dems think this will fly because their constituents have largely never seen a form 1040.

    But the reporters have never seen one either?? What they haven’t seen in an income tax return with a reported income of over, say, $150,000, and even what they7 have seen, they haven’t understood..

    What Harry Reid may be counting on is that if he keeps on talking about this like he making any sense, too many people may be ignorant enough to think that what he said makes sense. I mean, people will think, it’s got to make sense – he can’t be speaking total nonsense!

    Throw in a few easy to understand phrases like “Bain investor” “extremely credible source” maybe people will will think he’s making sense.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  368. “I’m not saying there was a crossover vote, daleyrocks.”

    DRJ – I understand that you are not. I am asking what evidence, if any, exists for Eric’s contention. I saw no mention of cross over voting in news stories I googled today.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  369. DRJ

    It will be up to the scholars but I have to admit Dewhurst did exceedingly poor for such an incumbent.

    I would concede that even without the democrat votes Cruz would probably prevailed

    EPWJ (719277)

  370. Throw in a few easy to understand phrases like “Bain investor” “extremely credible source” maybe people will will think he’s making sense.

    Comment by Sammy Finkelman — 8/6/2012 @ 12:56 pm

    Yes. Hard core idiots.

    And since that’s the case, why waste your time providing them with evidence?

    At this point, any attempt to do so will just convince the lunatics that Harry Reid still has some remaining credibility with that there must be something to his ravings.

    I think it would be more productive to point out to the sane portion of the electorate that Reid is making Romney’s point. Reid is already lying about Romney “hiding” his wealth because Romney declared it in the income tax returns he’s already released.

    Reid wouldn’t know what to lie about if Romney didn’t provide him with the information. Why give him more information that he can then lie about? If Romney releases more information about his sources of income and his investments then the Democrats will lie about how he’s hiding his sources of income and his investments. And the press will look at the information and report, “Yup, he sure is hiding a lot. It’s right there in black and white. He was craftily hiding all this stuff by reporting it.”

    This is the same crowd that has demonstrated that, if you’re a Democrat and want to conceal the fact you’ve eaten dog, put it in your autobiography.

    They’ll never find it.

    But Mitt Romney’s report card from his freshman year in high school?

    Steve57 (5797fd)

  371. E-stone

    I’m not screaming to not support Ted Cruz

    I’m lamenting the fact that we dont know how he is going to behave under the glare and pressure

    EPWJ (719277)

  372. Are you still claiming he never voted for a republican, or have you backed away from when you refuted yourself?

    JD (75bed3)

  373. “Isn’t it more likely that they were Hispanic Democrats who wanted to support Cruz because of his race, rather than liberal Democrats who think he will be another John Roberts?”

    DRJ – My understanding is that Cruz’ stand on illegal immigration is a lot tougher than Dewhurst’s. Not being from Texas, I have no idea how that offsets any racial solidarity voting. With low turnout voting in primary races, absent exit polling, interviews, targeted campaigning, or an organized effort such as Rush’s Operation Chaos, I don’t see how you provide evidence of an assertion which is otherwise just thrown out to taint a candidate’s victory.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  374. 382. Wasn’t it a shame about Mike Castle?

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  375. What stand Daley? He has never cast a vote and how is Dewhurst easy on illegals? That’s a federal matter

    JD

    According to everal people one of which works for Kay he didnt vote in Republican primaries which is about the only way we can tell if someone is a republican. But I grant you that sure so maybe he did – but how come no one really ever heard of the guy before he announced for Congress?

    Where are his legislative votes?

    EPWJ (719277)

  376. According to everal people one of which works for Kay

    Cough cough hairy reed cough cough baseless BS cough

    What do you care if you never heard of him nbefore running for office? Does being a US senator require the EPWJ seal of approval that you know who he or she is?

    JD (75bed3)

  377. Where are his legislative votes?

    I see. You only trust establishment pols. The least worthy of our trust. Gotcha.

    JD (75bed3)

  378. JD

    Can you point to a conservative legislative vote that Cruz took or even urged before he decided to run….

    yes those are crickets

    EPWJ (719277)

  379. Do you ever tire of running around with the goalposts, creating imaginary standards for those you oppose?

    JD (75bed3)

  380. Where are the establishment pols in Texas?

    Texas was 50th (least) spending per person in America most of the years if not all during Dewhurst.

    Also first in job creation. CEO magazine rates texas consistently the best state to conduct business in

    So where on earth in your mind did Dewhurst do wrong?

    Are we just going to slap labels? Where are Cruz’s votes or his press statements or his stands on the issues?

    We wont know until he votes correct?

    EPWJ (719277)

  381. Where are Cruz’s votes or his press statements or his stands on the issues?

    You are exceptionally good at playing stupid.

    JD (75bed3)

  382. JD

    You only trust establishment pols. The least worthy of our trust. Gotcha

    How does this apply to DewHurst

    Cruz was just as apart of the establishment – if that is a standard – appointed by Abbott, appointed by Bush – appointed by Bush with reccomendation by I think Cheney

    Cruz is more establishment because he was an appointee not accountable to the voters than Dewhurst an elected statewide official

    In my opinion

    EPWJ (719277)

  383. “You only trust establishment pols.”

    JD – See Skeeza Morecokeski. Plus Marco Rubio is a crook.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  384. Dots – Pattern – Connect

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  385. He could have made the loss manageable on his side,

    http://thepage.time.com/2012/08/06/cheney-revises-and-extends-on-palin/

    narciso (ee31f1)

  386. Put this up your pipe and smoke it, PeeWee…

    “The media is trying to create a sense of momentum and of inevitability about the Obama candidacy. One benighted Newsweek reporter even speculated about a possible Democratic landslide.

    On Friday, I saw the real numbers. These state-by-state polls, taken by an organization I trust (after forty years of polling) show the real story. The tally is based on more than 600 likely voter interviews in each swing state within the past eight days.

    The trend line is distinctly pro-Romney. Of the thirteen states studied, he improved or Obama slipped in nine states while the reverse happened in only four. To read the media, one would think that Romney had a terrible month. In fact, the exact reverse is true.

    Romney is currently leading in every state McCain carried plus: Indiana, New Hampshire, Wisconsin, Nevada, North Carolina, and Colorado. If he carries these states, he’ll have 228 electoral votes of the 270 he needs to win.

    To win the election, Romney would then have to carry Florida where he trails by two points, and either Virginia (behind by two) or Ohio where he’s down by only one.

    If he carries all three of these states and also wins all the others where Obama is now at 50% or less – Iowa, New Mexico, Michigan, Minnesota, Pennsylvania, and New Jersey — he will get 351 electoral votes, a landslide about equal to Obama’s 363 vote tally in 2008.

    The strong probability is that Romney does, in fact, carry Florida, Ohio, and Virginia and a share of the other states where Obama is below 50% of the vote.

    So don’t believe the garbage being put out by the media. The attempt to portray Romney as not catching on and as dropping in the polls is ludicrous.”

    http://www.dickmorris.com/the-real-poll-numbers/

    Colonel Haiku (2cc7fb)

  387. As Evan Thomas once said, having the media on your side is worth about 10-15% in the polls.

    AD-RtR/OS! (b8ab92)

  388. daleyrocks,

    I think it’s interesting to speculate about who voted for Cruz and why they voted for (or against) him. In addition, I don’t think his positions on immigration would necessarily turn off Texas Hispanic voters.

    For one thing, Cruz is good at explaining his positions. Voters appreciate that, even when they disagree. It reminds me of Ronald Reagan and abortion. He was against abortion in a time when most people approved, but voters still supported him because (IMO) they felt like he would be honest with them — even if it might hurt him at the polls. But the key was Reagan’s ability to explain his position and I see a similarity with Cruz.

    In addition, I’m not sure Texas Hispanics view immigration issues the same as Hispanics in other parts of the country. For instance, a 2011 poll showed 42% of Texas Hispanics disapprove of sanctuary cities and 36% approve. That’s far more than Texas Republicans who approve of sanctuary cities (4.5%) and slightly more than Texas Democrats (31%), but the point is more Texas Hispanics disapprove of sanctuary cities than approve. No wonder some Texans were irritated with Dewhurst’s poor handling of the sanctuary cities bill.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  389. Is it still PC to use the term Hispanics or is the preferred term Latinos?

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  390. “So don’t believe the garbage being put out by the media. The attempt to portray Romney as not catching on and as dropping in the polls is ludicrous.”

    It’s important to recognize good advice, no matter the source.

    Obama’s Calculated Deception

    The Obama campaign is trailblazing new realms of dishonesty in the history of American politics, bringing to America for the first time Soviet-style propaganda that flies in the direct face of reality, buttressed by dishonest, party-controlled media operations. Moreover, it is a classically abusive Saul Alinsky trick to accuse your opponent of planning to do exactly what you have done, as Obama does in continually accusing Romney of proposing to raise taxes on the middle class. Only an idiot can fail to see that the entire Democrat party’s spending plans require sweeping tax increases on the middle class.

    The whole thing is excellent. Peter Ferrarra documents the lies, although not all of them as that would require volumes.

    Obama and his minions have to lie. Harry Reid is doing his part to distract the electorate’s attention away from his party’s swath of destruction.

    There may be cracks in the media wall, though. These lies are apparently getting to be too much for many in the media.

    Both Democratic spokespeople were hammered by their respective interviewers, mostly for ducking the important question of whether they thought Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) was lying about his allegations regarding Mitt Romney’s not paying taxes for ten years.

    Steve57 (5797fd)

  391. DRJ @400 – Thank you for the explanation.

    I don’t want to discourage anyone from speculating who voted for anyone. My view of Eric’s assertion was that it was more than speculation and he has served up nothing in support of it.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  392. Well, I’m Texan and I donate and voted for Cruz rather enthusiastically, calling everyone I knew who I thought would vote and making sure they got out to the polls. I think some of these people would have voted anyway, but I am pretty sure this gave Cruz at least a dozen votes he otherwise wouldn’t have had.

    One reason is that Cruz has been quite upfront about the problem he has both with Austin and DC politics. He is not going to compromise the way Mr Dewhurst shows a tendency to do on many issues, not just the TSA matter or immigration.

    Where Cruz and Dewhurst overlap on issues (which is a considerable area), Cruz will stand his ground as Dewhurst gives too much away. I am tired of GOP legislators doing that. It’s a remarkable problem, really. Cruz is part of a small faction of Senators who will begin pushing these compromising Republicans in an opposite (conservative) direction. I think this is healthy.

    Cruz has an awesome resume. Clerking for the Chief Justice and being an Solicitor General has him quite ready to be a legislator.

    Dewhurst wasn’t so bad. I think he would have been a lot like Cornyn, and an improvement over KBH. Texas is lucky, as usual, to have a lot of great candidates. It’s like when we had Perry or KBH or Bill White for governor. I preferred Perry (of course), but all three of them were a lot better than all but a handful of states have as governor.

    Texas doesn’t tolerate as much foolishness from politicians, in my opinion. Dewhurst didn’t make the grade because of an earned reputation as being too willing to compromise at a time when we are in big trouble as a country, and the need for reform is not optional.

    Dustin (73fead)

  393. Well Cornyn has been OK on balance on votes, Geithner was an exception, his role at the NRSC
    still rankles for his early preferences,

    narciso (ee31f1)

  394. Yeah, I’d say that’s about right, Narciso. Cornyn has been about OK. Sometimes not what I was hoping for, but usually OK.

    Dustin (73fead)

  395. EPWJ also supported the “real” conservative Scuzzeyfavor over her opponent Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman. His “real” conservative Scuzzeyfavor then turned around and did this.

    Republican Scozzafava Endorses Democrat After Exiting N.Y. Congressional Race

    It seems he considers the most conservative to be part of the GOP establishment.

    peedoffamerican (ee1de0)

  396. Methinks that EPWJ has his definitions of Liberal and Conservative assbackwards.

    peedoffamerican (ee1de0)

  397. And a main reason I support Cruz: He is serious about a balanced budget amendment.

    Dustin (73fead)

  398. One Dem lie has bitten the dust:

    DCCC apologizes to Adelson for ‘Chinese prostitution’ comments

    It is not a good idea to slander a billionaire, who can afford very good attorneys, in your official correspondence.

    “In press statements issued on June 29 and July 2, 2012, the DCCC made unsubstantiated allegations that attacked Sheldon Adelson, a supporter of the opposing party,” the DCCC said in an e-mail released Thursday. “This was wrong. The statements were untrue and unfair and we retract them. The DCCC extends its sincere apology to Mr. Adelson and his family for any injury we have caused.”

    It’s only August. They may well have already jumped the shark. I confidently predict that the Dems are going to get increasingly unhinged as November draws closer.

    They are alienating people right and left (in every sense of those two words). Obama, our historic first black president may truly be a harbinger of our post racial future.

    He may well achieve what no other President has achieved since MLK was assassinated; drive the black vote away from the Democratic party.

    All Obama knows is how to bribe special interest groups. And these groups increasingly seem to be concluding that the bribes aren’t big enough to sell their souls.

    There is no special interest group in the Democratic coalition that will vote for Obama in larger numbers than they did in 2012. Catholics? No way, not after Obama had his HHS give them the finger? Blacks? After delivering an economy that CBC Chairman Cleaver admits would have his caucus marching on the White House if the guy occupying the oval office wasn’t black he turns around and gives the black community the back of his hand over gay marriage.

    Every single working American noticed that he just unilaterally and illegally declared amnesty for at least a million illegal aliens, and has teamed with the Mexican government to put even more illegal aliens on foodstamps, when we already have millions of people out of work and a record number of people already on foodstamps.

    And somebody is going to have to pay for all this, and it’s going to be the middle class.

    I can’t wait to see what desperation drives them to do next. But it’s going to have to have something to do with baseless accusations about Romney. Obama simply can’t win an election unless he can have his surrogates paw through personal records. That’s how he eliminated his opponents when he ran for Senate. That’s how he’s going to have to try and eliminate Romney.

    At this point I honestly would not be surprised if Obama orders Holder to raid Bain Capital and the Romney household to fish for dirt. Based upon the “seriousness of the allegations.”

    They really are that sleazy and desperate.

    Steve57 (5797fd)

  399. EPWJ,

    If only you spent so much time trashing Obama.

    But I guess that’s not what Democrats do.

    Elephant Stone (65d289)

  400. “Dirty Harry Reid”… teh film poster:

    http://t.co/rFJLo2ik

    Colonel Haiku (2cc7fb)

  401. Steve, that is too funny. So the DCCC sent an email out explaining it was lying and smearing someone?

    Kinda undercuts the next screaming email, doesn’t it?

    Dustin (73fead)

  402. Cornyn has to make trade-offs because he’s in a leadership role as NRSC Chairman and in line to be the GOP Whip. But he has pushed the GOP to the right on some topics, such as calling for Holder’s resignation after Fast & Furious.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  403. e-stone

    why, he’s already the worst president ever. I’d rather not even type his name.

    Romney is not going to be an improvement

    EPWJ (4380b4)

  404. You are certifiable, PeeWee. Here’s to wishing you better health and a much better grip on reality.

    Colonel Haiku (2cc7fb)

  405. EPWJ, your incessant trolling behavior got old a long time ago. Your credibility here? Zero.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  406. Yeah, Dustin. Not a good week for the Dems.

    The DCCC had to apologize to Adelson for slandering him. And Dan Pfeiffer had to apologize to Krauthammer for lying about how the Churchill bust that Bush kept in the oval office was still in the WH.

    You know, the WH communications director?

    White House aide Pfeiffer apologizes to Charles Krauthammer

    These people are so self-absorbed they actually never factored in that the British, who they insulted by returning the Bust (and then repeatedly insulted afterward), wouldn’t cover them.

    The hubris displayed by this WH is truly breathtaking. But they fit right in with the rest of the lunatics in the Democratic asylum.

    Steve57 (5797fd)

  407. spqr

    I dont trust romney with a democrat senate

    I wonder when the meme that he’s a conservative changed

    EPWJ (4380b4)

  408. As long as Romney isn’t a raving Marxist, he’ll be a step up.

    Steve57 (5797fd)

  409. ==I dont trust romney with a democrat senate==

    LOL LOL LOL LOL But Obama with a Democrat senate? No Problemo.

    elissa (7f3b85)

  410. EPWJ, I don’t trust you. I don’t pay attention to your opinions. I don’t give a crap what you think of Romney. You are a troll pure and simple.

    The only challenge is figuring out who you think your incompetent trolling benefits.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  411. Steve – tye denied that the DCCC had to apologize to Adelson. Lol

    JD (318f81)

  412. SPQR–with eric holding down the fort (so to speak) on this thread our old pal tye has been nowhere to be seen. Do you think that means something? It it significant? Is it that threadjack trolls have a secret honor code not to step on each others’ work?

    elissa (7f3b85)

  413. Elissa – they occasionally go for the Moronic Convergence, but generally, tag team.

    JD (318f81)

  414. Good grief. I just read this comment by Harry Reid in a Huff Po interview.

    “We feel comfortable in the Senate,” he said. “Where the problem is, is this: Because of the Citizens United decision, Karl Rove and the Republicans are looking forward to a breakfast the day after the election. They are going to assemble 17 angry old white men for breakfast, some of them will slobber in their food, some will have scrambled eggs, some will have oatmeal, their teeth are gone. But these 17 angry old white men will say, ‘Hey, we just bought America. Wasn’t so bad. We still have a whole lot of money left.’”

    Dana (292dcf)

  415. 423. Steve – tye denied that the DCCC had to apologize to Adelson. Lol

    Comment by JD — 8/6/2012 @ 7:08 pm

    Maybe tye really wants to meet Adelson’s attorneys, too.

    Steve57 (5797fd)

  416. “We feel comfortable in the Senate,” he said. “Where the problem is, is this: Because of the Citizens United decision, Karl Rove and the Republicans are looking forward to a breakfast the day after the election. They are going to assemble 17 angry old white men for breakfast, some of them will slobber in their food, some will have scrambled eggs, some will have oatmeal, their teeth are gone. But these 17 angry old white men will say, ‘Hey, we just bought America. Wasn’t so bad. We still have a whole lot of money left.’”

    They are full of hate, Dana. The contempt oozes from their every orifice.

    JD (318f81)

  417. That’s beyond hate, JD and Dana. That’s certifiable. He’s off his rocker.

    elissa (7f3b85)

  418. Maybe Dingy Harry is going to live to regret doubling down on stupid. He may get more attention than he was planning on.

    Is Harry Reid the Nancy Pelosi of 2012?

    In 2010, Nancy Pelosi became a campaign issue that helped to nationalize House races. Because of her lack of ability, her extremism and her personal unlikability, Pelosi became, and remains, deeply unpopular with the American people. So in many House races, Republican candidates used the fact that Democratic opponents had voted for Pelosi as Speaker, or intended to do so, against them.

    It is beginning to appear that Harry Reid may play a similar role in 2012. Reid is an excellent candidate for the part. Like Pelosi, his mental skills are unimpressive and his personality is grating at best. Also like Pelosi, his record as leader of the Senate is impossible to defend. The only difference is that until now, Reid has maintained a somewhat lower profile.

    But that began to change when Reid inserted himself into the presidential election with his outrageous claim–made, among other places, on the floor of the United States Senate–that he had heard a rumor that Mitt Romney went for ten years without paying any federal income taxes. Because the rumor is “out there,” Reid asserted, Romney needed to respond to it. Reid’s smear is ridiculous on its face; like most of what Democrats say, it is addressed only to the ignorant…

    …The pederasty campaign is a useful way to dramatize Reid’s irresponsibility, but there are more important reasons for Republicans to make him a centerpiece of the 2012 campaign.

    First, Harry Reid is a corrupt political hack. Nancy Pelosi came by her money honestly; she married it. But where did Reid acquire his fortune? His latest financial disclosure form indicates that Reid owns assets valued up to more than $7,000,000. Prior disclosures have indicated a net worth up to $10 million. Reid has never had a high-paying job in his life, and has almost always been employed in the public sector. As a Majority Leader of the Senate, he is paid $193,400 annually. So how, exactly, did Reid acquire his multimillion dollar portfolio of real estate and mining interests?

    The short answer is corruption…

    …But neither mobsters nor real estate developers give money away for free. What favors has Reid done, what strings has he pulled, that have been worth millions to his benefactors? Reid is a poster boy for cronyism and corruption, an image to which all Democratic Senate candidates should be tied.

    Steve57 (5797fd)

  419. 430. That’s beyond hate, JD and Dana. That’s certifiable. He’s off his rocker.

    Comment by elissa — 8/6/2012 @ 7:28 pm

    He needs to release his medical records. And his SAT scores and college, high school, grammar school, and kindergarten transcripts.

    Also his “boxing” win-loss record as well as a list of his opponents.

    Until he does so, this rumor that he is off his rocker will not go away. We need to see if he’s being treated for senility, dementia, brain tumors, Tourette’s Syndrome, or if he’s not lying about once being a boxer he just got hit in the head too many times.

    We also need to establish if he was a complete idiot before just going completely bats*** crazy.

    Until he releases all these documents, the questions about the new poster boy for the Democratic party bringing the stupid from Searchlight will not go away.

    And that’s a promise.

    Steve57 (5797fd)

  420. I don’t follow the Senate races around the country but the Midwest is flipping ND, NE, & MO beyond a shadow of doubt. WI is likely even if the GOP candidate is not yet known–Baldwin is the Donk and no mudder.

    So right there he’s going to have to justify his leadership to win Senate Minority Leader.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  421. This is a serious question. Can anybody think of a current, serving Republican politician who would say aloud to a reporter anything as crazee as what Harry is quoted spewing in that Huffpo piece that Dana posted? Congressman Joe Walsh goes a little goofy sometimes but nothing like this! Just checking.

    elissa (7f3b85)

  422. @Milhouse #344 (also 332, see also 334) cf #249, 262, 287 and 324.

    bonified = bona fide (genuine)

    EPWJ was saying that Ted Cruz was not a real conservative, because he has no track record, or at least not a quantifiable one, and he never voted (or took sides?) in any Republican primary before, and some liberal newspapers liked (endorsed?) him.

    Sammy Finkelman (609c6a)

  423. 414. I was almost ready to forgive him seeing him flog Holder mercilessly.

    Then I got a grip.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  424. Hehehe.

    Karma. She’s a beyotch.

    Politico: Harry Reid not releasing his own tax returns Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0812/79419.html#ixzz22pCWe5Ga

    “I’m a member of Congress now, I don’t make too much money,” said Reid, whose net worth was estimated at $10 million in 2010. “But it’s all listed every year.”

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0812/79419.html#ixzz22pDKtVBu

    And when you don’t make much money and manage to pile up a $10M fortune, it’s a really smart idea to draw a lot of attention to yourself and that fact. It’s like one of squadron’s E-3 Mess Specialist’s drawing attention to himself and the fact he was selling drugs on base by driving a brand new Porsche 911.

    Like Dingy Harry, he didn’t make much money either. Not legally.

    Las Vegas Review-Journal: Reid has history of making dubious charges

    Super genius from Searchlight is falling back on what’s been a failing political strategy for him since 1974:

    Anyone shocked by U.S. Sen. Harry Reid accusing GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney of not paying taxes for 10 years based on no public evidence, doesn’t know the political knife-fighter from Searchlight.

    In the Democrat’s first bid for the U.S. Senate, Reid threw out all sorts of unsubstantiated charges against Paul Laxalt, the former Republican governor of Nevada who went on to defeat Reid by 611 votes in a recount. Laxalt turned 90 years old last week, an elder statesman who might be Reid’s polar opposite in temperament.

    During their close 1974 campaign, Laxalt was dragged down already by the weight of the Watergate scandal involving President Richard Nixon…

    Those are some mad skillz Harry “political knife-fighter” Reid must have. He couldn’t beat a Republican during the Watergate scandal.

    Let’s see how he managed to pull that off:

    Reid said there were years Laxalt had paid no income taxes and people should know why. In response, Laxalt said heavy investments in the Ormsby House exempted him from tax liability in 1972 and 1973.

    Reid, then a 34-year-old lieutenant governor and lawyer, said his financial worth was $305,292.

    Laxalt, then 52, revealed his net worth was about $200,000 with the exception of his interest in the Ormsby House…

    Reid, a former boxer growing up, continued to pound Laxalt on his finances, thinking he could corner him. The tactics didn’t work and Laxalt won the race against the younger aggressor.

    More than three decades later, Reid said in his 2008 biography, “The Good Fight,” that he regretted his actions.

    “Laxalt had relaxed the (gaming) licensing requirements for Hughes and I suspected that Hughes had in turn feathered Laxalt’s nest,” Reid wrote. “I made a real stink about it, insisting that Laxalt’s whole family disclose their finances. To my embarrassment, Laxalt complied.”

    “Why yes, he said, my sister the nun who had taken a vow of poverty would be more than happy to inventory her meager finances,” Reid remembered Laxalt’s response. “It made me look bad, and it taught me another lesson…

    That lesson must be to repeat the insanity hoping to see different results.

    But, since you brought up the subject of personal finances Mr. Reid, how did you amass that multi-million dollar fortune working for “not much money” in “public service?”

    Do tell.

    Steve57 (5797fd)

  425. 434. “Joe Walsh goes a little goofy sometimes”

    Illinois doesn’t speak the same dialect as the rest of the Midwest. We would say ‘testes’.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  426. One Dem lie has bitten the dust:

    DCCC apologizes to Adelson for ‘Chinese prostitution’ comments

    It is not a good idea to slander a billionaire, who can afford very good attorneys, in your official correspondence.

    But that apology is costing Adelson dearly: Now he’s being targeted for audits, and they’ll dig until they find something no matter how long it takes and how much time, money, and aggravation it costs him.

    Milhouse (15b6fd)

  427. Sammy, of course I knew what EPWJ meant when he wrote “bonified”. I wanted to run his face in his illiteracy.

    Milhouse (15b6fd)

  428. Not if Adelson was smart enough to grease both parties and keep records. In any case, no tears for slime. Las Vegas should be wiped off the map and Adelson is a very small start.

    nk (875f57)

  429. Milhouse, I think Adelson will be able to hold on until November when amateur hour in the WH will be brought to a close.

    Steve57 (5797fd)

  430. In any case, no tears for slime. Las Vegas should be wiped off the map and Adelson is a very small start.

    To the best of my knowledge Adelson is a paragon of virtue.

    Milhouse (15b6fd)

  431. Milhouse, I think Adelson will be able to hold on until November when amateur hour in the WH will be brought to a close.

    On the contrary, from November to 20-Jan the engine will be running full steam, as they try to do as much damage as they can while they still can.

    Milhouse (15b6fd)

  432. To the best of my knowledge Adelson is a paragon of virtue.

    Comment by Milhouse — 8/6/2012 @ 8:34 pm

    Please define “best”, “knowledge”, “paragon”, and virtue for me. And how they fit into “gambling”, “prostitution”, etc.

    nk (875f57)

  433. The Dems have apologised for the prostitution claim; why are you repeating it? And I see nothing wrong with gambling.

    Milhouse (15b6fd)

  434. Please permit me to clarify. Las Vegas and prostitution are synonymous. They even have a commercial and a slogan for it. As for gambling … I suppose it’s better than strong-arm robbery.

    nk (875f57)

  435. So now please tell me the “best” of your “knowledge” about this “paragon” of “virtue”.

    nk (875f57)

  436. Or just tell me the worst of your knowledge about the least of his virtue.

    nk (875f57)

  437. Milhouse, I suspect that between November 6th and January 20th Obama, Holder, Reid and Pelosi (the Democratic party “brain trust”) will be trying to cobble up a maneuver that Zelaya, Castro, and Chavez could be proud of.

    I suspect it will be appallingly stupid in the Obama regime’s signature ham-handed, tin-eared, and completely self-unaware style.

    Somehow I don’t believe they’ll be able to keep focused on Adelson. Or reality in general.

    Steve57 (5797fd)

  438. There’s not going to be any thought of, or attempt at, a coup, morons. If Obama loses, there will be a transition team. The biggest fight will be over the VP’s residence.

    nk (875f57)

  439. I agree with NK, Steve.

    Obama has a luxurious life ahead of him. And if he loses in November, he doesn’t have to work another day in his life. He can occasionally make speeches and show up at all the schools opened in his historic name.

    There will be a lot of ‘America is racist’ complaining, and I don’t think it will resonate, since we did elect Obama in the first place. But there will be no attempt at a coup beyond some election night waffling over ballots.

    Dustin (73fead)

  440. Did I really see that Harry Reid was talking about angry old white men????

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  441. Oh, I don’t necessarily believe the stunt will involve Obama trying to stay in the WH. Probably just a fire sale on US sovereignty.

    And US missile defense secrets for all his friends.

    But Obama has demonstrated in the past he has low regard for any Constitution that limits Presidential power or terms in office. On numerous occasions.

    One minute he can’t just unilaterally implement the dream act or stop enforcing immigration law. We have a Constitution that prevents that, he told Hispanics when he was inviting them to help him punish their enemies.

    The next minute President Gusty Call decides the political winds have changed and all of a sudden, the hell with the Constitution (just kidding; it really wasn’t that sudden).

    So if you guys don’t mind, I suggest we’re going to have to keep a close eye on this guy between the time he gets his pink slip and when he actually has to move out of his temporary digs. I believe his focus will shift and instead of just trying to screw over only Adelson or a just few Romney donors he’ll be working overtime to screw over the entire country before he gets kicked to the curb.

    We’re going to find out just how little of a barrier he really thinks the Constitution is.

    Steve57 (5797fd)

  442. Probably just a fire sale on US sovereignty

    Oh, well yeah, that wouldn’t be a surprise.

    Dustin (73fead)

  443. If I wanted to bother with mnoronic a**holes it would be to point out that the Constitution only allows laws laws and treaties that are in accordance with it. I suppose that it would be constitutional for us to conquer the world as long as we gave them our constitution. Morons.

    nk (875f57)

  444. nk, we’re at least one “kinetic military action” past the point where your protests and insults make any sense.

    Obama asked Medvedev to pass the word on to Putin that he could afford to be more “flexible” about crippling our national security during his second term.

    An Obama that has two and a half months to kill and a nation to take revenge upon for denying him that second term?

    He’s going to demonstrate just how “flexible” he imagines he can be. And I have no idea just how “flexible” that is but it’s simply insane to put anything past him and Eric “no controlling legal authority” Holder.

    Steve57 (5797fd)

  445. If I wanted to bother with mnoronic a**holes it would be to point out that the Constitution only allows laws laws and treaties that are in accordance with it.

    This is untrue. The constitution is a piece of paper. It has no will.

    Lawyers get to interpret it. That’s why Roscoe Filburn couldn’t keep his wheat and why Dredd Scott’s daughters were ruled property of Dr Emerson.

    We have laws of men, mostly men who went to law school instead of medical school or engineering school, for better or worse (and usually for worse).

    We have already seen some serious lapses of judgment from Obama’s administration regarding state secrets and treatment of allies. I do think that the period after Obama loses the election would be pretty hazardous. He’s a true believer in his views, and these views lead to bad places.

    I don’t think we’ll see anything remotely like a coup, but we’ll probably see some bad behavior.

    Dustin (73fead)

  446. Comment by Colonel Haiku — 8/6/2012 @ 4:04 pm

    Romney is currently leading in every state McCain carried plus: Indiana, New Hampshire, Wisconsin, Nevada, North Carolina, and Colorado. If he carries these states, he’ll have 228 electoral votes of the 270 he needs to win.

    Indiana is a normally Republican state, as is North Carolina, in spite of some demographic changes. Wisconsin was carried by the Democrat in both 2000 and 2004, but by very narrow margins, and vote fraud – or underhanded tactics like slashing the tires of vans rented by the Bush campaign to drive voters and monitors to the polls – may have made the difference. There are similar problems in Missouri, but Bush carried the state times.

    New Hampshire (and with it the election it turned out) was won by George W. Bush in the year 2000 – He needed those 4 Electoral votes. Bush lost New Hampshire in 2004, but gained Iowa (7) and New Mexico (5) plus 7 Electoral votes from reapportionment, in compensation. Iowa is down to 6 Electoral votes this year, but still a swing state.

    Nevada (up now to 6 Electoral votes) and Colorado (9 Electoral votes) are two states Bush carried that Obama also did.

    To win the election, Romney would then have to carry Florida where he trails by two points, and either Virginia (behind by two) or Ohio where he’s down by only one.

    All 3 states were also carried by Bush both times. Florida is now up to 29 Electoral votes (!) Ohio down to 18, and Virginia has 13 Electoral votes.

    If he gets Virginia and Florida, but not Ohio, plus the exact breakdown listed above, it would be a 270-270 split, something Tim Russert, late of “Meet the Press,” would love (to calculate anyway.) One faithless elector could throw the whole thing off, or give us a third choice.

    Florida is now losing population, but not much had happened maybe by April 2010, and besides it continued to gain till at least the collapse of the housing market in July and August 2007.

    Florida has now many abandoned developments, where people set up mailboxes and mail false tax returns using elderly people’s names and Social Security numbers to the IRS asking for refunds in the form of debit cards. (the newest option)

    Sammy Finkelman (609c6a)

  447. 440. Comment by Milhouse — 8/6/2012 @ 8:23 pm

    Sammy, of course I knew what EPWJ meant when he wrote “bonified”. I wanted to run his face in his illiteracy.

    I think he didn’t catch on (or didn’t see it)

    When I reviewed this before posting, I noticed that what daleyrocks said at 334 wouldn’t be understandable unless you knew what the word really was – and if you were mystified, then you should have indicated incomprehension – still nobody had said what the word was and EPWJ apparently hadn’t noticed it. And even if you did know what the word was, maybe somebody else didn’t.

    Sammy Finkelman (609c6a)

  448. Comment by elissa — 8/6/2012 @ 7:18 pm

    An interesting theory.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  449. Comment by MD in Philly — 8/6/2012 @ 9:37 pm

    “Did I really see that Harry Reid was talking about angry old white men????

    Harry Reid is a youthful 72. In Harry Reid’s universe, you have to be at least 87, to contribute large sums of money to Karl Rove. Also, Harry can afford to pay a dentist, unlike these super-rich people.

    Sammy Finkelman (609c6a)

  450. “When I reviewed this before posting, I noticed that what daleyrocks said at 334 wouldn’t be understandable unless you knew what the word really was – and if you were mystified, then you should have indicated incomprehension”

    Sammy – I was mocking EPWJ’s obvious misspelling as well as the concept of the label.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  451. The 2008 Vice Presidential candidate from the Libertarian Party, who I think, is also from Nevada, decided that if Harry Reid can say that the reason Mitt Romney isn’t releasing his tax returns is that he didn’t pay any taxes for ten years, he can say that Barack Obama got a college scholarship, and admitted to Columbia and Harvard Law school, by claiming to be a foreign exchange student and that that’s why he won’t release his college records.

    Actually, he’s a bit more clumsy than that. This would be fraud, or a loophole (possibly he had dual citizenship in Indonesia if he was adopted by his stepfather) not an abandonment of his U.S. citizenship.

    Sammy Finkelman (609c6a)

  452. Comment by Steve57 — 8/6/2012 @ 8:01 pm

    Reid remembered Laxalt’s response. “It made me look bad, and it taught me another lesson…”

    That lesson must be to repeat the insanity hoping to see different results.

    The difference is that, unlike Paul Laxalt, Romney seems determined not to release his income tax returns.

    Also, he’s not a candidate.

    But, since you brought up the subject of personal finances Mr. Reid, how did you amass that multi-million dollar fortune working for “not much money” in “public service?”

    He claims legal fees and investments, I think.

    Sammy Finkelman (609c6a)

  453. “The difference is that, unlike Paul Laxalt, Romney seems determined not to release his income tax returns.”

    Sammy – No, Romney has promised to release two years of tax returns, which is certainly within precedent of candidates for president. Democrats are just pretending that it is not. Romney has already released his 2010 return and a partial 2011 return. The final 2011 return is not yet due or completed.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  454. SF: “The difference is that, unlike Paul Laxalt, Romney seems determined not to release his income tax returns.”

    Comment by daleyrocks — 8/7/2012 @ 8:01 am

    Sammy – No, Romney has promised to release two years of tax returns, which is certainly within precedent of candidates for president.

    No, I think it’s been usual for some time, for major presidential candidates to release several year’s worth of tax returns, or at lest let some important newspapers examine them. That’s how we found out about Whitewater in March, 1992, because the New York Times noticed a peculiarity in Bill Clinton’s 1984 tax return.

    We didn’t find out about Cattlegate until after he was president, because the 1979 tax return had never been given to the New York Times. Bill Clinton probably released that as a distraction. (There’s no way that could have become known if he didn’t arrange for it)

    The statute of limitations had long since expired for anyone to do anything about that, but he made it an extra task for the special prosecutor.

    You know, if Hillary Clinton had really engaged in commodities speculation in the fall of 1979, she would have gambled on silver and gold, nbot cattle futiures. That was all based on inside information, if it wasn’t simply rigged

    Inside information, we were told in 1994, was actually legal then for cattle futures, but it could have been actually post-posting.

    The amount Hillary made was almost exactly $100,000, which is an additional reason it looked like a payoff.

    Of course the whole job (when Bill Clinton became Arkansas Attorney general in 1977) and later partnership (when he became Governor for the first time in 1979) in the Rose Law Firm was a payoff to the Governor. A client or two could have compensated the law firm for paying her more than what she was worth, or for taking her on as a partner.

    In the fall of 1979, possibly she had taken maternity leave (she gave birth in Feb. 1980) and needed a replacement source of income.

    Sammy Finkelman (609c6a)

  455. So we did find out something about Bill Clinton because he revealed his tax returns to the New York Times.

    Anything happen?

    No.

    He made a big thing about negative campaigning.

    When there is something there, nobody will draw the conclusions.

    And there was much more, having nothing to do with income tax returns.

    “A scandal a week” Jerry Brown called it.

    Sammy Finkelman (609c6a)

  456. “No, I think it’s been usual for some time, for major presidential candidates to release several year’s worth of tax returns, or at lest let some important newspapers examine them.”

    Sammy – Incumbents are different than candidates, but the trend has been to release more years. It becomes a part of campaign strategy. No legal requirements exist over the disclosure. McCain, however, only released two years and Reagan only released one year.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  457. The New York Times did publish some longer articles on Harry Reid Saturday and Monday.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/04/us/politics/reid-has-long-history-of-romney-bashing.html?_r=1&ref=us

    Republicans Step Up Attacks Against Reid

    Sammy Finkelman (609c6a)

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    enoturismo (e7b904)


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