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7/31/2012

Being Rich Is A Privilege

Filed under: General — JD @ 4:53 am

[Guest post by JD]

“To be a millionaire in this country, it is the greatest country the world has known. It is a privilege. And I think most people get that. You work hard, you get ahead, make a living and you contribute back to this country and make it a better country,” Rep. Joseph Crowley (D-NY) said on CNN today.

Thoughts? I think it is wonderful that benevolent masters allow people the privilege of succeeding. And I think their class warfare tactics are tiresome. And I wonder how much he thinks people should have the privilege of earning. And I wonder if he would be willing to tell the privileged people exactly how much of their money that they were granted the privilege of earning they should be allowed to keep. I won’t bother wondering what percentage of taxes the top 1%, 5%, and 10% should pay. Or what percent of the population should not pay taxes, since they weren’t given the privilege of being rich. Meh.

–JD

93 Responses to “Being Rich Is A Privilege”

  1. Those that would presume to be our masters generally suck.

    JD (e6629d)

  2. The last time I checked life, liberty, property and the pursuit of happiness are all inalienable rights, not privileges. This sounds all too familiar, though. Crowley is not the first democrat to imply or outright state that it is the government which allows us to have things.

    But far be it from me to correct my political and intellectual betters.

    S Simmons (6be151)

  3. I’m sure that he merely misspoke and really meant to say “blessing”.

    Icy (fb0afd)

  4. In the case of Romney being rich brings the privilege of not paying any taxes. That’s what I’ll believe until he actually releases data to the contrary.

    tye (ba133c)

  5. What he’s saying is the people what don’t work hard and don’t get ahead and don’t make a living don’t get the privilege of contributing back to the country and making it better.

    Think of it this way if people had to buy their own food stamps nobody would want them and we’d lose all the multiplier effects.

    happyfeet (c16705)

  6. In the case of Romney being rich brings the privilege of not paying any taxes.

    Overt lie

    JD (79d10d)

  7. Being rich is a privilege.

    But it’s not a privilege afforded by government, it’s a privilege afforded by a capitalist society that lets you produce goods people demand and for people to buy them, free from government intrusion.

    That fact doesn’t give government the authority, either legal or moral, to confescate property.

    egd (d580cc)

  8. Prove me wrong. Show me the tax data. Oops. It’s not available.

    tye (ba133c)

  9. Racists!

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  10. “That’s what I’ll believe until he actually releases data to the contrary.”

    tye – Don’t forget about the Tooth Fairy and the Easter Bunny.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  11. I believe tye is an idiot.

    Prove me wrong.

    Oops, you can’t.

    Data isn’t available.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  12. There is no basis for tye’s claim, and his wailing is a desperate attempt to distract from the contemptuous view he and his fellow travelers have for success in this country. One that they seem proud to display, with increasing frequency. We should make sure the get a microphone when they do so.

    JD (79d10d)

  13. I believe tye is an idiot.
    Prove me wrong.
    Oops, you can’t.
    Data isn’t available.

    There is more than sufficient evidence for same, and has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, repeatedly.

    JD (79d10d)

  14. The congressman’s unspoken implication is A) that successful people don’t pay their “fair” share of taxes, or, alternatively, B) that they “owe” government something for allowing, or facilitating, their success. Both tropes are utter bunk. We know the top earners in American society pay the bulk of income taxes. And the businesses give back plenty — in the form of taxes, jobs (which create more tax revenue), community vibrancy and vitality (see Detroit, exhibit A for what happens to a community when businesses flee an oppressive entrepreneurial environment) and helping to increase prosperity.

    The perpetual Communist-Democrat demonization and vilification of capitalism, businesses and wealthy, successful people is infantile, sickening demagoguery and economic ignorance at its worst. But, it makes for good politics, playing to the proletariat by sowing seeds of economic jealousy and resentment. It’s the oldest trick in the Marxist-Leninist playbook, so we’re never going to see the end of it.

    Guy Jones (851e14)

  15. A couple weeks ago, The Man Behind the Curtain informed us that becoming rich was a result of having a road and bridge near your business, or having a great teacher somewhere along the line.

    Now we’re told that becoming rich is a privilege ?
    I think these goofball lefties keep moving the goalposts on us.

    Elephant Stone (65d289)

  16. I have a contemptuous view of rich people who use their influence to skirt their tax bills then try to acquiesce to my good graces in an attempt to earn my vote. Not happening. I’m not that stupid. But not necessarily judging those who are.

    tye (ba133c)

  17. I’m not that stupid.

    There is no evidence to support this assertion, nor any of the others underlying your jealousy and envy.

    JD (79d10d)

  18. No… being an elected official is a privilege.

    john b (7d7611)

  19. 17-smarter than you biff.

    tye (ba133c)

  20. I’m not that stupid

    nor is there an even chance that you will ever be rich Tye

    EPWJ (8a4ca7)

  21. In the case of Romney being rich brings the privilege of not paying any taxes. That’s what I’ll believe until he actually releases data to the contrary.

    According to Romney’s 2010 tax return, Mitt paid over $3,000,000 in taxes.

    So, there you have it: data that disproves your belief. Mitt did not pay zero taxes.

    But you will move the goalposts again, of that I am sure.

    Chuck Bartowski (3bccbd)

  22. You are funny, tye. Did the IRS have a problem with Romney’s returns? No? Done. I have a contemptuous view of poloiticians who use their influence to make others rich and then have their rich friends donate to their campaigns, buy their books, or host them after office for speeches in which thousands of dollars exchange hands in the form of appearance fees, or when they buy houses they couldn’t afford previously by crooked deals.

    john b (7d7611)

  23. This goes against every principle of the founding of this nation.

    The connection between property and liberty can’t be lost on this person. He simply must have contempt for liberty of individuals.

    SarahW (b0e533)

  24. Is following the law really skirting their tax bills? The law is the law, and most people follow it in a way that minimizes their tax bill. Obama does this, as Patterico noted recently.

    Obama’s Treasury Secretary went farther. The Obama administration man trusted to oversee the IRS broke the law to skirt his tax bill. It’s interesting how the Obama administration is almost the Goldman Sachs admin, where paying taxes is optional too, yet the loyalists simply adapt by applying class warfare on strict partisan lines.

    These are not winning arguments. America wants the economy to recover from Obama, not go further down the road of jealousy and financial ‘justice’.

    Dustin (73fead)

  25. “17-smarter than you biff.”

    Comedy gold from the young pup right there.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  26. Tye, can you stop insulting people for a second and admit that Chuck proved your claim wrong? What was your source for the claim Romney paid no taxes? He’s paid more taxes in a year than you’ll pay in your entire life.

    Dustin (73fead)

  27. “These are not winning arguments. America wants the economy to recover from Obama, not go further down the road of jealousy and financial ‘justice’.”

    Dustin – Recent Gallup polling shows voters don’t rank raising taxes on the rich or Democrat class warfare arguments very high on their list of concerns, suggesting more meme fail for the left.

    What do rank high are the economy, jobs and the deficit, things Obama is desperately trying to avoid discussing.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  28. 24- studies show that liberal voters are more educated than conservatives…. i suppose if i were proven stupid my reaction would be to laugh it off too. I won’t take offense to it.

    tye (ba133c)

  29. Tye,

    Didn’t you listen closely to what your Holy Obamessiah said a couple weeks ago ?

    He said that you’re not any smarter than anyone else, ’cause there’s a whole lotta smart people out there.

    Elephant Stone (65d289)

  30. Dustin, you are presuming tye has moved out of his mother’s basement.

    Simon Jester (903208)

  31. Actually tye, you are that stupid. You’ve demonstrated it repeatedly.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  32. What do rank high are the economy, jobs and the deficit, things Obama is desperately trying to avoid discussing.

    Years without a budget, terrible unemployment, and an absolutely scary deficit, all are deflected rather poorly with ‘Romney made a lot of money and paid taxes lawfully.’

    Obama needs to run on his own record, justifying it and explaining why it worked this way. But he’ll do anything to avoid that topic, which is why he’s going to lose.

    studies show that liberal voters are more educated

    Did they educate you to make things up, as Chuck has shown?

    Dustin (73fead)

  33. Dustin, those “statistics” that show that liberals are “better” than conservatives keep popping up, and get trumpeted by folks like the trolls here…but the amusing part is that the people trumpeting that data do not understand statistics or experimental design.

    It just fits their narrative.

    Sort of like Romney didn’t pay taxes business. Little troll was proven wrong, and will ignore the fact or move goalposts.

    Teh Narrative, uber alles.

    Simon Jester (903208)

  34. More spamming from the bag-o-bile.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  35. H8R alert on Aisle 32. Remember all the hateful comments about a dead man from this nasty, low-minded person? Why on Earth would he post here?

    Simon Jester (903208)

  36. I have little doubt that there are many useless academic departments filled with dependent seeking lefties.

    That’s not impressive and it’s not really education.

    Take a poll of the applied sciences, the advanced maths, the business schools, and there will be a healthier mix of political views.

    Dustin (73fead)

  37. Romney’s tax dollars throughout the decades have literally paid for entire roads and bridges.

    When The Obamessiah says, “You didn’t build that bridge !”
    Romney can literally respond, “Actually,…I probably did.”

    It’s so sad to see the jealousy and resentment that eat up the insides of so many Dhimmicrats. If they would invest 2% of their anger into building a business, they’d likely be much happier. After all, it merely takes a road in front of your business to make it successful—so c’mon, Tye, put on your big boy pants, find a commercial building for lease that has one of them government roads in front of it, and get out there and become priviliged !

    Give back to the country, rather than always take from it.

    Your mother will be so happy. She’ll finally be able to tell Aunt Martha, “Our 43 year old boy has finally left the house !”

    Elephant Stone (65d289)

  38. @tye – So what if Romney hasn’t paid his taxes?The White House is currently full of tax evaders. Liberals shouldn’t be the only ones in this country who are allowed to avoid their tax obligations.

    At any rate, I say innocent until proven guilty. If you think Romney has avoided taxes illegally, take it up with the IRS.

    S Simmons (6be151)

  39. Funny isn’t it, how this never applied to Teddy Kennedy (et. al) who did nothing but inherit his wealth?

    If you espouse the correct social philosophy you’re given a pass, if not you should grovel in thanks at your good fortune. Sounds like fascism to me.

    T (b9f3b5)

  40. 28- I totally agree, but all of those who are smarter than me are liberals. ;-)

    tye (ba133c)

  41. As for the tax brouhaha above, it was no less than Judge Learned Hand who said (I paraphrase) there is nothing wrong with any American arranging his affairs so as to pay the least amount of tax.

    Given the fact that the govt is ever-demanding and spends all of what it collects and more, I would take Hizzoner to the next level and say it is every American’s patriotic DUTY to legally pay the least amount of tax in order to constrain an otherwise limitless govt.

    T (b9f3b5)

  42. T, I know. Given how the feds spend money, why would anyone voluntarily pay more taxes than they are legally required to? They can’t even be bothered to pass a budget.

    Obama can complain about people who don’t pay more taxes than the law requires after he signs a budget and gets the deficit under control like he promised he would.

    Dustin (73fead)

  43. There are times when I wonder why all those evil rich guys don’t just park their wealth in non-taxable venues and let the Treasury dept eat vacuum.

    Would serve the damn Democrats right to see how stupid their economics POV is.

    To quote Robert Heinlein:

    Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded — here and there, now and then — are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty.
    This is known as “bad luck.”

    The Democrats work hard to create “bad luck”. And that’s why we are about to enter a second recession in Obama’s first term.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  44. According to Romney’s 2010 tax return, Mitt paid over $3,000,000 in taxes.

    Tye lies. It is what it does.

    JD (79d10d)

  45. So, tye, do you continue to believe that Romney has paid nothing in taxes? Or will you admit that you’ve been proven wrong?

    The world is breathlessly awaiting your response.

    Chuck Bartowski (3bccbd)

  46. Yet another example of the stupidity that is tye, he confuses “smart” with “educated”.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  47. Funny isn’t it, how this never applied to Teddy Kennedy (et. al) who did nothing but inherit his wealth?

    Or John Kerry, who married into his.

    Chuck Bartowski (3bccbd)

  48. In 2010 he knew he was running for president. Before that? No data available.

    tye (ba133c)

  49. In 2010 he knew he was running for president. Before that? No data available.

    True to form, tye moves the goalposts again.

    So, do you admit that Romney did not pay nothing in taxes?

    Chuck Bartowski (3bccbd)

  50. This is an interesting discussion because it points up a difference in the meaning of the word privilege as it’s used in different parts of American society.

    The language in the post implies that when the author hears the word privilege, he understands it to mean, roughly “something which you have been granted by an authority figure and which the authority figure has the power to take away.”

    When I hear the word privilege – and this is heavily informed by having had discussions with people about such topics as “white privilege” – is “some benefit which I have been accorded, and which other people have not been accorded, solely as a result of an accident of birth or of fate, rather than through any meritorious action of my own.”

    This is a *common* usage in liberal circles.

    I am lucky to have been born an American. It is a great privilege to have been so born; it has accorded me all sorts of benefits which are simply not available to a simularly situated man born in, say, Mexico. I am grateful for that privilege and I believe that the mere existence of that privilege imposes upon me a duty to contribute back to the country.

    I think this is a sentiment which most Americans would agree with.

    aphrael (5d993c)

  51. Intentionally failing to pay taxes == great candidate for office if Democrat. Intentionally paying millions of dollars in taxes == unsuitable for office if Republican.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  52. Good point, Aphrael. I think it is quite a blessing to be an American and be able to succeed here. I just don’t like the government having that attitude.

    Dustin (73fead)

  53. In 2009? Who knows? Do you have data on that?

    tye (ba133c)

  54. Tye? Chuck has you. You made a blanket statement, and were proven wrong, again. Say you are sorry (and you are indeed), or go away. Quit playing troll games.

    Simon Jester (903208)

  55. “44.According to Romney’s 2010 tax return, Mitt paid over $3,000,000 in taxes.”

    An anecdote. Several years ago when the Rolling Stones were in town Mick Jagger ate at a local diner. The bill was about $30 for which he left a $10 tip. When the reporter asked the waitress how she felt about that, her reaction was “He could have left more.”

    Get that? The man left a 30% tip–generous by ANY standard, but he was cheap because he “could” have left more. Therein lies the liberal “raison d’etre” and Tye’s criticism. If your rich, what you PAID doesn’t matter, you could be paying MORE.

    And that, in a nutshell is whay I’m not a registered Democrat; I don’t resent someone because they might have more than I do. rahter, I applaud their success.

    T (b9f3b5)

  56. In 2009? Who knows? Do you have data on that?

    Stop dodging the question. You said that Romney made a lot of money and didn’t pay taxes. I proved your statement to be false. Please have the good grace to admit your error.

    Chuck Bartowski (3bccbd)

  57. But somebody getting 100 bucks to feed their family angers you but the guy who put the first guy out of a job doesn’t pay a cent in taxes on the millions he made outsourcing that job is presidential material… and you claim you’re intelligence and education level are superior? Ha

    tye (ba133c)

  58. Dustin, on the contrary, I would *prefer* for politicians to have the humility to say, hey, it was very lucky for me that i was born here, because this is a great place, and I owe a lot of my success to that stroke of luck, and so I have a duty, as a public servant, to preserve those things which make this a great place so that the luck is paid forward.

    For me, that’s the essence of American patriotism.

    aphrael (5d993c)

  59. == hears the word privilege, he understands it to mean, roughly “something which you have been granted by an authority figure and which the authority figure has the power to take away==

    Like shore privileges given to a navy man and bathroom privileges granted to a recovering post surgical patient by the doctor.

    elissa (1a6129)

  60. 57.But somebody getting 100 bucks to feed their family angers you but the guy who put the first guy out of a job doesn’t pay a cent in taxes on the millions he made outsourcing that job is presidential material… and you claim you’re intelligence and education level are superior? Ha

    You must be talking about zippy, who used Stimulus money to outsource jobs, right? Want a link yfa?

    ∅ (721840)

  61. and you claim you’re intelligence and education level are superior?

    If you actually had a superior intelligence, you would have known to use the possessive “your” in that sentence, rather than the contraction for “you are”

    I am laughing at the superior intellect.

    Chuck Bartowski (3bccbd)

  62. Elissa, oh, sure. I’m not denying that that’s the meaning of the word in certain contexts. But there are other contexts where the word *always* means what i’m talking about.

    Specifically, in any discussion of “white privilege”, “male privilege”, etc, that’s what the word means. Because of its use in that context, the meaning I described has become quite common in liberal circles, common enough that I would assume it is the meaning intended any time anyone on the left or younger than thirty five uses the word, unless there’s clear and compelling context to indicate otherwise.

    aphrael (5d993c)

  63. BTW, do you consider a company expanding their business internationally outsourcing, yfa?

    ∅ (721840)

  64. tye once again makes up crap out of whole cloth. Lying seems to be the only tool in his otherwise empty toolbox.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  65. Meanwhile, Obama “outsources” jobs every year in greater amounts that Bain ever did.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  66. As of now, I will bite the bullet and volunteer to let tye cancel out my vote in November.

    Every person who is smart and ambitious enough to earn money, however much, deserves every penny of it. Capitalism is a good thing.

    PatAZ (cbbf6d)

  67. Hey, tye, where’s your outrage at Obama setting up off shore accounts for his daughters????

    That’s right. Obama is black and a democrat, therefore he’s given a pass by you.

    PCD (1d8b6d)

  68. 47, The Kennedy Family trusts are offshore accounts. How much in taxes have the kennedys avoided, tye?????

    PCD (1d8b6d)

  69. PCD, tye will likely flee this thread. He’s been proven wrong and cannot admit it. So, he will either not post on this thread again, or else he will wait a while and then post something that has absolutely nothing to do with his earlier comments, hoping to deflect the topic yet again.

    Chuck Bartowski (3bccbd)

  70. Of course you wouldn’t have proof of this… (67)
    And you’re the one who brought up race. Bigot. Race has nothing to do with this but your sensitivity to your perception that black people are taking your slice of the pie is well noted if not off-putting.

    tye (ba133c)

  71. Pcd please prove me wrong with a hotair link. That would make my morning.

    tye (ba133c)

  72. Tye, will you ever admit that you have been proven wrong?

    Chuck Bartowski (3bccbd)

  73. 69, Chuck, maybe one of the older kids in his daycare class gave tye and atomic wedgie and tye is trying to figure out how to get the back of his underwear off the top of his head and forehead. Hopefully the briefs don’t have a racing stripe in them.

    PCD (1d8b6d)

  74. tye sneers at others’ links while being unable to provide any of his own to back up his fabrications.

    The brazen lies and hypocrisy of tye continue.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  75. 70, tye, calling bigot is the only thing you have, and it is particularly empty coming from you.

    PCD (1d8b6d)

  76. 74, SPQR, what would be the appropriate act of Balancing in a Heinlein type world? I’ve read the complete Lazarus Long series.

    PCD (1d8b6d)

  77. ==I would *prefer* for politicians to have the humility to say, hey, it was very lucky for me that i was born here, because this is a great place, and I owe a lot of my success to that stroke of luck, and so I have a duty, as a public servant, to preserve those things which make this a great place so that the luck is paid forward==

    Aphrael, did you just use the words “humility and “politician” in the same sentence? Sorry, but after that I could barely concentrate on the rest of your thought. :)
    Frankly I am much more concerned about people who have the “stroke of luck” to be elected or appointed to a public office–and then seem to use that political position–gifts, insider knowledge and connections– to become wealthy beyond logic while “serving” the public. That bothers me a whole lot more than a person who with hard work and perseverance makes his own success in private industry or entrepreneurship.

    elissa (1a6129)

  78. > much more concerned about people who have the “stroke of luck” to be elected or appointed to a public office–and then seem to use that political position–gifts, insider knowledge and connections– to become wealthy beyond logic while “serving” the public

    sure. using your public position to enhance your personal wealth is a betrayal of the public trust. you’re right to be concerned.

    that said, i think you’re missing what i mean by ‘stroke of luck’. that i was born in the US was a ‘stroke of luck’. that i was born to a mother, and had a grandmother, who valued education was a ‘stroke of luck’. that i found myself in a social circle which encouraged me to go into tech was a ‘stroke of luck’. etc.

    i’m suspicious of those who claim to be entirely self-made and who don’t acknowledge the luck (and the assistance from others) that put them in a position where their hard work *could* pay off instead of being fruitless.

    aphrael (5d993c)

  79. PCD, “balance” ? That’s a Liad concept from the Sharon Lee & Steve Miller Liad Universe.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  80. 79, Only place I’ve ever read about Balancing as a form of justice was in Heinlein’s Lazarus Long series. I particularly remember the telling of the punishment for a drunken horse cart driver. He ran over his victim injuring one leg bad enough to require amputation.

    The punishment was for the now sober drunk to be run over by a Police horse cart and because it took 22 minutes for the victim to receive medical attention, the drunk would have to wait 22 minutes after being run over before the surgeon cut off the drunk’s leg.

    PCD (1d8b6d)

  81. I have a contemptuous view of rich people
    – Which is why you yourself will never be one.

    who use their influence to skirt their tax bills
    – Oh, I see, we’re talking about G.E., the parent company of NBC & MSNBC. Well, just remember, it could always be worse . . . they could be members of the administration!

    then try to acquiesce to my good graces in an attempt to earn my vote.
    – Uh, are you saying that Romney has actually proposed a policy that you like?

    Not happening. I’m not that stupid.
    – Survey says . . . ?

    But not necessarily judging those who are.
    – tye is a useful idiot for his leftist puppet-masters; but not to worry, I’m not necessarily judging him based on this.

    24- studies show that liberal voters are more educated than conservatives
    – Conservative voters don’t have to shell out thousands of dollars to an institution in order to be told what to think? Hmm, you might be on to something here!

    i suppose if i were proven stupid my reaction would be to laugh it off too. I won’t take offense to it.
    – Well, of course not. You just giggle all you want, and mama will come in and wipe the drool every so often.

    In 2010 he knew he was running for president. Before that? No data available.
    – Yeah, he didn’t know that he was running in 2007.

    but the guy who put the first guy out of a job doesn’t pay a cent in taxes on the millions he made outsourcing that job is presidential material
    – Wow! You can make “millions” tax-free by outsourcing ONE job? Is there an infomercial about this? Sign me up!

    Race has nothing to do with this but your sensitivity to your perception that black people are taking your slice of the pie is well noted if not off-putting.
    – “Race has nothing to do with this; therefore, I’m now going to falsely accuse you of being a racist.”

    Pcd please prove me wrong with a hotair link. That would make my morning.
    – If just once your mom would NOT make the “stop smoking weed and go get a job!” speech, THAT would make your morning.

    Icy (fb0afd)

  82. Icy,

    Also, don’t overlook “. . . perception that black people are taking your slice of the pie. . . .”

    Race aside, this is how liberals think—THE PIE IS FINITE! To the left it’s always a zero-sum game because their pseudo-economic policies put equal distribution ahead of economic strength and actually create a finite economic pie. They are inured to the idea that one can not prosper without someone else suffering.

    T (b9f3b5)

  83. From an old episode of West Wing, this is for tye and his ilk:

    Sam Seaborn (Rob Lowe) argues:
    Henry, last fall, every time your boss got on the stump and said, “It’s time for the rich to pay their fair share,” I hid under a couch and changed my name. I left Gage Whitney making $400,000 a year, which means I paid twenty-seven times the national average in income tax. I paid my fair share, and the fair share of twenty-six other people. And I’m happy to ’cause that’s the only way it’s gonna work, and it’s in my best interest that everybody be able to go to schools and drive on roads, but I don’t get twenty-seven votes on Election Day. The fire department doesn’t come to my house twenty-seven times faster and the water doesn’t come out of my faucet twenty-seven times hotter. The top one percent of wage earners in this country pay for twenty-two percent of this country. Let’s not call them names while they’re doing it, is all I’m saying.

    This is included in a Josh Barro article published yesterday on Bloomberg.

    elissa (1a6129)

  84. It’s been fun watching tye scurry around like a cockroach trying to avoid the spray of Raid.

    But now I’m bored with him.

    Tye: you are an arrogant, insulting, worthless fool. You think you’re smart, but you’ve been bested by just about everyone at this site. You don’t have the courage to admit when you’ve made a mistake, and you don’t have the intelligence to realize when you are in over your head. In short, you are everything that’s wrong with internet political blogs. You lower the value of this site just by posting here.

    Chuck Bartowski (3bccbd)

  85. Even though I no longer read what tye has to say, I can get the gist from the way so many people react to it.

    Has tye added one iota of insight, perspective, truth, grace or humor to any post he has ever participated in?

    I find I am grateful for his absence. Why is he tolerated on this site?

    Aye, no tye.

    Pious Agnostic (ee2c24)

  86. Indeed.

    Leviticus (102f62)

  87. Ask the host. David should be banned for his claim that I really want to be raped by him. Tye, while more douchey by volume, stays well clear of that type of nonsense. Usually.

    JD (cfef43)

  88. == but you’ve been bested by just about everyone at this site==

    And how much worse for tye that he’s even been “bested” by the words of a leftist activist Aaron Sorkin, who long ago realized and pointed out what a loser class warfare rhetoric against “the rich” is to peoples’ ears.

    elissa (1a6129)

  89. I have a duty, as a public servant, to preserve those things which make this a great place so that the luck is paid forward.

    Aphrael, that’s a great attitude and in all honesty I suspect that’s what most politicians speaking that way are hoping to say.

    However, I also think some politicians blur this issue with this other issue that it’s such a privilege that the successful need to be grateful to the government, which is not a healthy attitude for government to have. How much of this is in that message is probably a matter of interpretation and faith.

    Dustin (73fead)

  90. Remember that what really frosts tye is that Romney might be worth more than Justin Bieber, but only barely.

    SPQR (32a911)

  91. JD, posting on Patterico is a privilege innit?

    The Emperor (dc5ae1)

  92. “I have a duty, as a public servant, to preserve those things which make this a great place so that the luck is paid forward.”

    Not to be confused with “I have a duty to despotically exact taxes from the citizenry to fund, with other people’s money, what I think should be done to pay it forward.”

    Most politicians would lay claim to the first thought, but would act on the latter. A pox on ALL their houses!

    T (b9f3b5)


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