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7/6/2012

Obama’s War on Jobs Continues Apace

Filed under: General — JD @ 8:31 am

[Guest post by JD]

80,000 jobs, which is approximately 40,000 short of what it takes to keep up with population growth. Couple that with nearly historic and unexpected job force participation rates, and it is safe to say that his many pivots to focus like a laser beam on the economy have proven to be EPIC fails.

I blame Bush.

– JD

Comments (408)

408 Comments

I also blame the racist reichwingnut noise machine and the obstructionists that obstructed Teh One from doing even greater damage to our economy.

$5,000,000,000,000+ in new debt in 3 1/2 years!!!!!!

Comment by JD (318f81) — 7/6/2012 @ 8:35 am
…and worse, 85,000 workers left the workforce entirely to enroll in the Social Security Disability Insurance program, according to the Social Security Administration.

The disability ranks have outpaced job growth throughout President Obama’s economic recovery. While the economy has created 2.6 million jobs since June 2009, fully 3.1 million workers signed up for disability benefits.

The President blames congressional gridlock for this.

Comment by Dana (292dcf) — 7/6/2012 @ 8:43 am
Barackwinkle: Hey Rocky, watch me pull some jobs out of my ass!

Rocky: Again? That trick never works.

Barackwinkle: This time for sure. Presto!

Lion: ROARRRR!!

Rocky: Wrong ass!

Barackwinkle: I blame Booosh.

Comment by Icy (e77123) — 7/6/2012 @ 8:47 am
*If* he is re-elected, he will then indeed be able to fully and honestly claim that he inherited an enormous mess.

Comment by Dana (292dcf) — 7/6/2012 @ 8:50 am
I blame the epa.

Comment by mg (44de53) — 7/6/2012 @ 9:01 am
Ahh, but it’s a “step in the right direction.”
[can you imagine if an R said something like this in a similar situation?]
“We learned this morning that our businesses created 84,000 new jobs last month,” Obama said. “And that overall means that businesses created 4.4 million new jobs over the past 28 months, including 500,000 new manufacturing jobs. That’s a step in the right direction. That’s a step in the right direction.”

Comment by Walter Cronanty (7f852d) — 7/6/2012 @ 9:09 am
We need to make more Chevy Volts.

Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/6/2012 @ 9:09 am
As the IRS ramps up for Obamatax, there will be plenty of jobs!

Brush up on your math, folks. You too could be a hated G-Man.

Comment by Patricia (e1d89d) — 7/6/2012 @ 9:10 am
“That’s a step in the right direction.”

A rather modest, claim, actually.

Comment by Sammy Finkelman (c08134) — 7/6/2012 @ 9:14 am
meanwhile, California slits its own throat.

when all else fails, double down on stupid.

Comment by redc1c4 (403dff) — 7/6/2012 @ 9:15 am
approximately 40,000 short of what it takes to keep up with population growth.

The definition of recession (or recovery) ignores population.

By popular understanding in fact you need to get back to where you would have been on the old trendline to say you are out of a recession. That’s why you have all this confusion every so often about whether or not we are still in a recession.

Comment by Sammy Finkelman (c08134) — 7/6/2012 @ 9:17 am
Now, hold on there, JD. Maybe Tiger started it, but Obama made it the imprimatur. More [millionaire] black golfers, more caddies. Cocktail waitresses at the clubhouse, after. That’s jobs, ain’t it?

Comment by nk (875f57) — 7/6/2012 @ 9:19 am
Three women were sitting in a beauty salon and the discussion turned to their sons.

1st woman, “My son is the greatest plastic surgeon there is. Kate Upton was in a horrible disfiguring accident, he operated, and now she is the top model in the world.”

2nd woman says, “That’s nothing. Bode Miller was run over by a train and had both legs amputated. My son operated, re-attached his legs, and Bode went on to win the gold medal in the Combined Men’s skiing at the 2010 Winter Olympics.”

3rd woman says, “Both of your sons are nothing compared to my son. He took two ears and an asshole and made a President!”

Comment by peedoffamerican (606d27) — 7/6/2012 @ 9:19 am
+84K private sector, -4K government. If only the Obama economy fit the narrative of a socialist growing government, we’d have more jobs.

Comment by spointer (64270f) — 7/6/2012 @ 9:25 am
Spointer is imdw

Comment by JD (dfaa6e) — 7/6/2012 @ 9:26 am
Hey spointer, what’s 4k X 99 weeks of unemployment benefits equal to?

Comment by Icy (e77123) — 7/6/2012 @ 9:29 am
Why doesn’t Obama just tax people who are unemployed to make them participate in the workforce? He just got validation on his healthcare tax, so this ought to be a no-brainer!

Comment by EC (dda60e) — 7/6/2012 @ 9:30 am
Remember 2004 when every jobs report was compared to the number needed to break even?

Comment by JD (dfaa6e) — 7/6/2012 @ 9:32 am
Obama uses the last 28 month construct to avoid his first year in office. How does his construct compare to the number needed to keep up with population growth, and now, his de facto DREAM Act?

Comment by JD (dfaa6e) — 7/6/2012 @ 9:35 am
Why doesn’t Obama just tax people who are unemployed to make them participate in the workforce? He just got validation on his healthcare tax, so this ought to be a no-brainer!
Comment by EC — 7/6/2012 @ 9:30 am

– Because his GOAL is to tax people that WORK in the PRIVATE SECTOR.

Comment by Icy (e77123) — 7/6/2012 @ 9:35 am
The “Double Dip” has begun, the Recovery will begin when Team Obama leaves the White House.

Comment by AD-RtR/OS! (b8ab92) — 7/6/2012 @ 9:36 am
Teh Won needs to be constantly reminded that part of his “inheritance” was the two-years of Pelosi-Reid Congressional Leadership that occurred before he was elected; and how the economy began to slump upon the news in Nov-’06 of their elevation into positions of leadership. There is an untold magnitude of stupid that came out of the 110th Congress – that is his true inheritance.

Comment by AD-RtR/OS! (b8ab92) — 7/6/2012 @ 9:46 am
Comment by redc1c4 — 7/6/2012 @ 9:15 am

They can’t help themselves!
From FoxNews….

California Senate backs bill to shield many illegal immigrants from deportation

But, amazingly, LACo Sheriff Lee Baca is opposed to this bill. If only that is enough to scuttle it.

Comment by AD-RtR/OS! (b8ab92) — 7/6/2012 @ 9:53 am
From the IBD piece, some facts to show how spointer is as dishonest as tye:

Private-sector employment still down 3.9%, or 4.502 million. Government jobs overall are down 1.9%, with federal jobs (ex post office) up 10.7%.

State government employment is down but Federal employment has gone up during the recession. Much like you’d expect a socialist government to do …

Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 7/6/2012 @ 10:12 am
– Because his GOAL is to tax people that WORK in the PRIVATE SECTOR.

“It’s not a tax, it’s a penalty”

Comment by Kevin M (bf8ad7) — 7/6/2012 @ 10:17 am
California Senate backs bill to shield many illegal immigrants from deportation

I truly hope they pass this. Assuming that anything can get folks from focusing on social issues when they vote, this will.

In any event, the CA Republicans need to funnel tons of money (maybe more than half of all funds spent) into a single unified “Vote Republican to Save California” campaign. God knows the Dems have done there best to hand them campaign issues — issues that can’t be exploited in legislative horse-race ads.

Comment by Kevin M (bf8ad7) — 7/6/2012 @ 10:22 am
+84K private sector, -4K government. If only the Obama economy fit the narrative of a socialist growing government, we’d have more jobs.

Comment by spointer — 7/6/2012 @ 9:25 am

Obama has a bill to hire more govt. employees but the evil Republicans are blocking it. Don’t you even follow your side’s campaign themes?

Comment by Gerald A (138c50) — 7/6/2012 @ 10:27 am
I’d settle for him adding as many government jobs as Bush.

Comment by spointer (01dabf) — 7/6/2012 @ 10:28 am
Re: #13… hey, P’Od… that 3rd woman was Myril Bennett Axelrod…

Comment by Colonel haiku (c7fc59) — 7/6/2012 @ 10:30 am
I’d not settle for it, but it would be an improvement if Obama was not the worse President in my lifetime.

The idea that the “solution” to our economic problems is more Federal employees is of course the stupidest campaign theme imaginable. So its no surprise that spointer has picked it up from Obama.

“The private sector is doing fine!”

Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 7/6/2012 @ 10:31 am
That IS our problem, don’t ya know — not enough peoples working for the guvmint.

Comment by Icy (e77123) — 7/6/2012 @ 10:32 am
I don’t think it’s federal that’s hurting as much. State and local more so.

“The idea that the “solution” to our economic problems is more Federal employees is of course the stupidest campaign theme imaginable.”

To make it a campaign theme we need total war like the 1940s.

Comment by spointer (01dabf) — 7/6/2012 @ 10:36 am
spointer, your comments are as incoherent as tye’s too.

Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 7/6/2012 @ 10:37 am
+84K private sector, -4K government. If only the Obama economy fit the narrative of a socialist growing government, we’d have more jobs.

Comment by spointer — 7/6/2012 @ 9:25 am

There’s this thing called Obamacare which will add something like 150 Federal agencies. Nobody knows exactly how many.

Comment by Gerald A (138c50) — 7/6/2012 @ 10:41 am
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meanwhile, California slits its own throat.

Things like that (and this goes double for the ultra-liberalism that plagues nations like France) make the peculiar mix of both Communism and capitalism found in the current incarnation of China (meaning the People’s Republic of China) seem somehow less restrictive and discouraging to the business climate than even aspects of supposedly open, free, gung-ho America. In other ways, a system (ie, the PRC’s totalitarianism) that’s still blatantly oppressive may not be — ironically enough — as culturally self-destructive — ie, as absurdly leftwing — as what’s going on in Western civilization.

We live in an upside world right now.

latimes.com, July 5, 2012:

Despite a 2007 order by Chinese authorities to boost physical education in schools to combat obesity and deteriorating eyesight, many educators — and parents — have resisted. [F]ellow researchers at the Zhongshan Ophthalmic Center had to negotiate hard to persuade six schools to allow students a daily recess break.

“We roll out a blackboard onto the playground and create situations where the students can practice English with each other or draw outside,” said Wang Xiaojia, Bayi Xiwang’s principal.

The researchers acknowledge this may be as close as they get to giving young Chinese eyes a break.

“If your prescription at the end of the day is making Chinese care less about education, then it’s not going to happen,” said Nathan Congdon, a professor at the Zhongshan Ophthalmic Center. “That’s like telling Americans to like basketball or football less.”

http://www.artsandopinion.com, Janice Fiamengo:

When I finally landed a tenure-track position at a Canadian university, I was ecstatic and full of hope — exhilarated by the opportunity to teach students about literature and ideas and to have conversations with colleagues equally in love with literature and ideas. I didn’t realize that my experience as a university teacher of English would have much less to do with these passions than with the distortion of the university’s core mission in the name of pedagogical and political orthodoxy.

To begin with, the student writing that came across my desk left me aghast. I had taught before, but I was unprepared for the level of illiteracy, the stunted vocabularies, near-complete absence of historical knowledge, and above all the extraordinary apathy of many English majors.

Not only was my students’ writing appalling, but I soon encountered their resentment at being told about it. “Who are you to tell me I can’t write?” was the attitude — once expressed in those very words. More than one student insisted that her other teachers had always rewarded her with high marks for her “creativity.” Most believed themselves more than competent.

I was up against it: the attitude of entitlement rampant amongst university students and nurtured by the utopian ideology that permeates modern pedagogy, in which the imposition of rules and identification of errors are thought to limit student creativity and the fostering of a hollow self-esteem takes precedence over the building of skills on which genuine self-respect might be established.

The majority of students in English courses today can expect a B grade or higher merely for warming a seat and handing in assignments on time. The result, as I soon discovered, was a generation of students so accustomed to being praised for their work that when I told them it was inadequate, they simply could not or would not believe me. They seemed very nearly unteachable: lacking not only the essential skills but also the personal gumption to respond adequately to criticism.

In books such as The Professors, David Horowitz has shown the dominance of Leftist activists at American colleges and “the extent to which radicalism at the very edges of the American political spectrum [has] established a central place in the curriculum of American universities.” A recent report by the California Association of Scholars laments the widespread politicization of teaching, pointing out the extraordinary imbalance of liberal to conservative scholars at California universities (29:1 in the Berkeley English Department, for example), a situation that certainly applies across North America.

Comment by Mark (c417dc) — 7/6/2012 @ 10:43 am
For IMaDickWad’s elucidation….

Total Federal Employment (Civ & Mil)
2000: 4.129MM
2008: 4.206MM
2010: 4.443MM

Total employment growth under Bush (8-years)= 77,000

Total employment growth under Obama (2-years – 2010 data latest available) = 237,000!

Yes, I wish Obama’s Federal Employment growth was the same as Bush’s too.

http://www.opm.gov/feddata/HistoricalTables/TotalGovernmentSince1962.asp

What a Maroon!

Comment by AD-RtR/OS! (b8ab92) — 7/6/2012 @ 10:56 am
AD, we know that spointer and tye just make up stuff and then get indignant that their fantasies are not reality.

Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 7/6/2012 @ 11:01 am
Comment by Mark — 7/6/2012 @ 10:43 am

That push-back by students was in Canada.
You can only imagine how outraged American Students, the product of the Great Self-Esteem Movement, would be when told how uneducated they are.

Comment by AD-RtR/OS! (b8ab92) — 7/6/2012 @ 11:01 am
SPQR, I feel that I’m fortunate this election cycle that I’m distracted by some employment, and I don’t have the time to spend on the ‘net dealing with these issues.
But then, my sector of manufacturing (the firearms industry) is having a wonderful year (along with energy extraction on private lands), which says a lot about the priorities of this administration and those of the American People.

Comment by AD-RtR/OS! (b8ab92) — 7/6/2012 @ 11:06 am
AD, guns are the only industry that Obama has “stimulated”.

That’s a clue.

Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 7/6/2012 @ 11:07 am
Hey, it keeps me busy, and will at least through the end of the year.
We (our company) had a record year in ’11, and we’re on pace to exceed that by another 15%+.
Of course, the down-side is that what we make are non-perishable goods, so if they’re not used, they don’t self-destruct from storage.
But, usage could be a positive just as sitting on all that ball and powder in 1775 wasn’t going to do any good for anyone either.

Comment by AD-RtR/OS! (b8ab92) — 7/6/2012 @ 11:12 am
I blame Bush.

Seems like you’d balme the intransigence of Republicans in Congress, who fail to pass laws and ruin the nation’s credit rating over a deal they then attempt to renege on….

but, can go ahead and blame Bush, since he was the worst President since Hoover. At least Hoover was smart…

Comment by timb (449046) — 7/6/2012 @ 11:30 am
Hey, wasn’t timb banned by Patterico?

Comment by Simon Jester (2708f4) — 7/6/2012 @ 11:42 am
Judging from today’s numbers, Obama’s end-zone clog dance after the ObamaCare decision has suddenly morphed into a “soft shoe routine.”

Comment by MarkJ (42fe5b) — 7/6/2012 @ 11:51 am
no surprise, Mark, since Obama has been nothing but a fraud compared to the campaign rhetoric.

Comment by SPQR (9b5a2d) — 7/6/2012 @ 1:51 pm
food stamp’s war on jobs is picking up speed Mr. Drudge says

On Friday, President Barack Obama is expected to sign into law a federal highway bill with a section that redefines tobacco manufacturers to include any business with a roll-your-own cigarette machine and taxes those products at the same rate as packaged smokes.

The machines, which cost about $33,000 each, allow customers to pick their own tobacco and pour it into a device that can roll the tobacco into a carton, or about 200 cigarettes, within minutes.

Valenti calls it a “killing” of small businesses and said closing his stores means his 21 employees lose their jobs.

I have one of those stores what just opened up downstairs … I been there with my smoky friend J (he thought the cigarettes were nasty btw and only smoked one of them then threw the rest out) but for sure it employs people and more importantly it employs people with bad skin who may have difficulty finding another job.

Comment by happyfeet (a55ba0) — 7/6/2012 @ 2:15 pm
I think Mr. Obama is just way over his head and confuzzled about what to do so he just flails and flails. Every day Michelle tells him to get on the plane or on the bus or on the golf course and out of her sight. Now, when he asks Valerie what to do she just rolls her eyes and says “well, you da president man!” It’s tragic.

Comment by elissa (513acc) — 7/6/2012 @ 2:49 pm
The machines, which cost about $33,000 each, allow customers to pick their own tobacco and pour it into a device that can roll the tobacco into a carton, or about 200 cigarettes, within minutes.

Cool business idea. I don’t smoke, but I like the ingenuity.

Sad to see it targeted by nannies who know taxing it this way will simply eliminate the company (the point).

Comment by Dustin (330eed) — 7/6/2012 @ 2:54 pm
Obama knows he’s been a complete failure. By the standards he told the American people to expect four years ago. And yet, he is campaigning for reelection anyway.

That’s arrogance.

Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 7/6/2012 @ 3:03 pm
Off topic, don’t miss Patrick guestblogging on a blog … err, well I won’t mention whose blog.

Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 7/6/2012 @ 3:06 pm
I just remembered listening to the news. There was also a somewhat disappointing jobs report last month.

Nobody sees it, but we are being affected by European austerity. Interest rates are now bein lowered in Europe. It’s probably being done too slowly. You only see the beginnings of it in the first monthly jobs report. We are heading toward a double dip recession unless it is headed off.

Comment by Sammy Finkelman (c08134) — 7/6/2012 @ 4:20 pm
Comment by elissa — 7/6/2012 @ 2:49 pm

I think Mr. Obama is just way over his head and confuzzled about what to do so he just flails and flails.

He knows that his economic advisers are in over their heads, or he doesn’t trust them if they still have ideas.

He has no idea on whom to call.

An economist who worked for republicans maybe or something like that? Perish the thought!

Comment by Sammy Finkelman (c08134) — 7/6/2012 @ 4:23 pm
Not that they actually have any good ideas either.

Some people do, maybe, but they are probably outliers.

But Obama won’t touch anyone who had very much to do with a Republican office holder.

Comment by Sammy Finkelman (c08134) — 7/6/2012 @ 4:25 pm
“Yes, I wish Obama’s Federal Employment growth was the same as Bush’s too.”

But I said not just federal.

Comment by spointer (01dabf) — 7/6/2012 @ 5:12 pm
No, spointer, you tried to first claim that the small drop in overall government employment was somehow “proof” that Obama was not a socialist. An argument you abandoned when it was shown that the Federal government, which at last rumor Obama was the chief executive of, had grown to great excess.

You really are pretty bad at this “argument” thing.

Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 7/6/2012 @ 5:14 pm
“An argument you abandoned when it was shown that the Federal government, which at last rumor Obama was the chief executive of, had grown to great excess.”

But that figure of -4K is net government — state and local. This is not the only time it has dropped. Have you followed the employment reports long? From this BLS release:

June 2011 Govt employment: 22,109
June 2012 Govt employment: 21,936

That’s 173K govt jobs lost, while in the private sector:

June 2011: 110,231
June 2012: 112,180

So 1.9 million job gains.

Comment by spointer (01dabf) — 7/6/2012 @ 5:26 pm
Warning!!!! Do not read this if you have eaten recently or if you are holding a glass of anything liquid in your hand. Warning!!!

“I told you I would wake up every single day, fighting as hard as I knew how for you, to make your lives a little bit better, to give you more of a fighting shot to succeed and live our your dreams,” Obama said in Pittsburgh today. “And I made that promise because I saw myself in you. In your grandparents, I see my grandparents. In your children, I see Malia and Sasha. And I’ve kept that promise.”

Comment by elissa (513acc) — 7/6/2012 @ 5:30 pm
Imdw/spointer – why did you post links to pictures of Patterico’s house? How many names do you plan on using this month?

Comment by JD (dfaa6e) — 7/6/2012 @ 5:32 pm
elissa, I’m glad that he doesn’t know how to fight any harder…or something

Comment by MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 7/6/2012 @ 5:36 pm
spointer, the thread stands for itself. The record above shows you trying to make a point, and then abandoning like cheap cologne when it blew up in your face.

The readers of this blog aren’t as dumb as your normal run of friends, they don’t fall for your horse manure.

Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 7/6/2012 @ 5:42 pm
“The record above shows you trying to make a point, and then abandoning like cheap cologne when it blew up in your face.”

I’m still making the point — this time with data over a year rather than a month. The numbers are bigger, but you can still understand it. Take a look at the time series over a longer time period if you want.

Comment by spointer (01dabf) — 7/6/2012 @ 5:44 pm
spointer, your attempt to pretend you never made the claim that job losses in government “proved” Obama was not a socialist – when in fact Federal employment has been rising at a rapid rate for a recession – has been a failure.

Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 7/6/2012 @ 5:53 pm
Doc, If now he’s saying they all remind him of “him”, I assume that calling the peeps bitter clingers did not poll well in PA.?

Comment by elissa (513acc) — 7/6/2012 @ 5:59 pm
Sometimes regular charts don’t capture ‘the horror’

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2012/07/20120706_BAML2.png

Comment by narciso (ee31f1) — 7/6/2012 @ 6:02 pm
elissa, ~~I don’t know how, but~~ in murtha’s district it didn’t matter, I guess he brought enough pork home for dinner that some folk didn’t need to cling to anything else

Comment by MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 7/6/2012 @ 6:03 pm
“proved”

You put this word in quotes, yet I did not use it. You’ll have an easier time understanding what I write if you stick to what I write:

“You really are pretty bad at this “argument” thing.”

Comment by spointer (01dabf) — 7/6/2012 @ 6:07 pm
The Obama jobs numbers are abysmal. There is just no other way to describe the hell unemployed Americans are living. His policies have put the USA is deep debt, but have not put people back to work. I do not blame Bush. I blame Pelosi, Reed, and especially the Food Stamp President.

Comment by elissa (513acc) — 7/6/2012 @ 6:26 pm
Off topic, don’t miss Patrick guestblogging on a blog … err, well I won’t mention whose blog.

Comment by SPQR — 7/6/2012

That was fun. Popehat is the man. And as far as I’m concerned, Balko is the man too for sticking up for Patterico’s safety from e-thugs.

Comment by Dustin (330eed) — 7/6/2012 @ 6:28 pm
spointer, nonsense. That’s exactly what you tried:

+84K private sector, -4K government. If only the Obama economy fit the narrative of a socialist growing government, we’d have more jobs.

Comment by spointer — 7/6/2012 @ 9:25 am

Your attempts to back peddle only reinforce your complete lack of credibility here. Other than the seventh grader, tye, no one here thinks you have any.

Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 7/6/2012 @ 6:42 pm
Of course, the Obama administration solution is to blame the fact that they are not dictators. As Obama’s cronies just loves them those Fascists since they can make the trains run on time.

Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 7/6/2012 @ 7:07 pm
Dragging the putrefying carcass of the EU out to beat once again, and not for the last time, the end is nigh.

Merkel “caved” to beggar pressure and lost ground publicly with her coalition, business and the Consitutional Court yet offered not a farthing more.

Meanwhile Spain is screwed as badly as a week ago and France now has leapt full body across the tracks in front of the bond investor train.

October will be a vewwy bad month for finance, top to bottom.

Comment by gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 7/6/2012 @ 7:26 pm
63. Indeed, Ogabe hasn’t waited the full 99 before pulling the transfer payment rug out from under Red states.

Kicking people off U3 unemployment rolls is the only way to stay in contact with 8% so they’ve accelerated that gloss on the numbers.

Crazy, you say, aren’t these layabouts Maggot’s core constituency? Yes, and telling them the GOP won’t extend their vacation is the motive.

Comment by gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 7/6/2012 @ 7:33 pm
No, the blame goes to Reagan.
Period.
But, hey, keep him in your pantheon. Couldn’t win an Oscar, for good reason, but he wins in your de-regulating, don’t tax big-money heart.
Glad you’re making more than $250k a year. (Otherwise, you’d be a fool.)

Comment by Larry Reilly (6f18bd) — 7/6/2012 @ 7:38 pm
cause the rain don’t lie and the rain don’t care

Comment by happyfeet (3c92a1) — 7/6/2012 @ 7:52 pm
mind I mean not lie

Comment by happyfeet (3c92a1) — 7/6/2012 @ 7:55 pm
I love it when a JournoLister stops by and pukes out his nonsense. Reagan hasn’t been in office in almost 25 freakin years, yet Mawy still has an insane pathological hatred of him.

Comment by JD (dfaa6e) — 7/6/2012 @ 7:59 pm
They felt about Thatcher, whose been out of public life, for nearly as long,

Comment by narciso (ee31f1) — 7/6/2012 @ 8:04 pm
76. Great Britain, currently enjoying the coldest, wettest summer on record, has decided to cut its army to 82,000 souls.

Not certain they can hold on to Gibralter and the Falkands forced to defend two fronts.

Spaniard and Argentine lepers to be catapulted over the earthworks.

Comment by gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 7/6/2012 @ 8:17 pm
Larry Reilly pulls that deregulation nonsense, when it was the Clinton administration that conducted the most recent financial sector deregulation. Not least under Rubin’s influence … the same Rubin who worked for Obama’s (aka President Goldman Sachs) “transition team” was mentored Obama’s Treasury secretary.

But Larry wants to point at Reagan. Pretty lame.

Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 7/6/2012 @ 8:31 pm
Not certain they can hold on to Gibralter and the Falkands forced to defend two fronts.

Comment by gary gulrud

In case you missed it, the Spanish are very seriously irate with the Argentines. No worries about the Spaniards if the Brits need to go kick some Argentine butt. In fact, the Spanish might just help, or at least hold the Brits’ coats.

Comment by Dianna (f12db5) — 7/6/2012 @ 8:38 pm
Rubin, who peddled all this sub prime junk, all
throughout Europe, Geithner was his protege,

Comment by narciso (ee31f1) — 7/6/2012 @ 8:38 pm
Right YPF and the Spanish equivalent, La Sra. Krischner is the female version of Chavez, who owed her re -election to QE 2,

Comment by narciso (ee31f1) — 7/6/2012 @ 8:44 pm
Narisco, what?! Cristina Kirchner owed her re-election to Her Majesty?

What?

Comment by Dianna (f12db5) — 7/6/2012 @ 8:48 pm
Quantitative Easing 2, that raised the value of Argentina’s grain exports

Comment by narciso (ee31f1) — 7/6/2012 @ 8:51 pm
The economy created just 80,000 jobs in June, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported Friday. But that same month, 85,000 workers left the workforce entirely to enroll in the Social Security Disability Insurance program, according to the Social Security Administration.

As Investors Business Daily further notes, that isn’t the exception in the Obama recovery, but the rule:

The disability ranks have outpaced job growth throughout President Obama’s economic recovery. While the economy has created 2.6 million jobs since June 2009, fully 3.1 million workers signed up for disability benefits.

That’s what Obama says is “a step in the right direction”. “The private sector is doing fine.”

And OMG! 4,000 government workers lost their jobs! Its an emergency!

Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 7/6/2012 @ 9:16 pm
And local radio hosts John & Ken here in L.A. report that MediCal (Govt-paid welfare medical care) here in CA has increased their roles by 7MM people, while at the same time the number of state tax returns has only gone up by less than 200K.
Gee, I wonder who those 7MM people are?
Perhaps the stat that over 80% of live-births in L.A.Co. are covered by MediCal, and have Spanish sur-names might be a clue.
Naw, that would be silly.

Comment by AD-RtR/OS! (2bb434) — 7/6/2012 @ 11:30 pm
“No worries about the Spaniards if the Brits need to go kick some Argentine butt.”

That’s great! Now we only have to worry about Obama. Actually no worries, he’s sure to side with Argentina.

Comment by FOAF (afeaef) — 7/7/2012 @ 12:59 am
No, the Rajoy and Kirchner governments will not collude, YPF alone, but both are in such dire straits they’ve run to the nationalist fervor resort.

All three are in their death throes, but it is merely nastiness to lump GB in with the Latins.

Bloody hell.

Comment by gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 7/7/2012 @ 4:18 am
85. Heck, Argentina is better off than CA and Greece. They can unilaterally devalue their currency rendering local services and products affordable, including nationalized foreign firms.

Comment by gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 7/7/2012 @ 4:25 am
And you chaps continue to think the Archbishop of Canterbury is a harmless joke:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18722054

Yuck it up during the Olympic rain delays. Field events will wait til Sept.

Comment by gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 7/7/2012 @ 4:37 am
“spointer, nonsense. That’s exactly what you tried:”

You’re reading it backwards. That doesn’t “prove” anything about Obama, rather it points out that we’d have more jobs if the economy fit the narrative.

Comment by spointer (01dabf) — 7/7/2012 @ 4:56 am
84. Historically government spends roughly 19% of GDP. Because of the radical increase in Federal spending and because of depression that level now stands about 24%.

A Federal dollar spent currently generates 40 cents of economic activity. Each additional dollar Feds disperse causes a net contraction. Huge increases in taxes will depress revenues further.

We are in a, what’s the word for the opposite of ‘virtuous cycle’, ‘death spiral’?

Comment by gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 7/7/2012 @ 5:38 am
______________________________________________

Heck, Argentina is better off than CA and Greece.

But all three places (along with France and Venezuela too) illustrate that no matter how bad things get, a large percentage of the electorate continues to be as nonsensically of the left as ever before.

The government of US’s largest state (population-wise) just approved the formal start of constructing an absurdly expensive high-rail train — and yet that same government will have an initiative on the ballot in November that demands an increase in both sales taxes and taxes on upper-income residents — and is close to making the “Golden State” a sanctuary for illegal aliens. A recent poll indicated the tax proposition is leading by a small margin.

If people despise a city, state or country, the best way to satisfy their feelings is to hope that such a place becomes as liberal — as leftwing — as possible. Or a reaction predicated on the sentiments of Obama’s former buddy and spiritual adviser proclaiming, “Goddamn America. Your chickens are coming home to roost!”

If I loathed California and the US — not to mention France — then some of the answers to my prayers have been answered. Of course, people on the left will scratch their head and ask, “How can that be? Your wishes are my wishes. But I don’t hate the places you mention.”

Comment by Mark (c417dc) — 7/7/2012 @ 7:37 am
I, too, blame Bush……for the kind of starkness of which you can take advantage for a bit of sophistry.

At this point in Bush’s presidency comparable to that of Obama’s, public sector jobs were up 3.7 percent for Bush, compared to a 2.7 percent decrease for Obama. Bush presided over a significant increase in public sector employment while putting a couple of wars and tax-cuts for the wealthy on the credit card.

So, please tell us how those numbers working for you in your “policy” musings?

Comment by Larry Reilly (4f2b6c) — 7/7/2012 @ 8:05 am
Larry, didn’t Obama promise to fix all this? Didn’t he promise to cut the deficit in half, stunt the rise in sea levels, stop all the war, and get the economy on track, including with respect to the employment that Obamacare destroyed?

This is why blaming Bush won’t work. Obama wanted the job of fixing our problems. It looks like Bush did a lot better job, but even if you pretend he didn’t, Obama has failed to fix our problems.

Comment by Dustin (330eed) — 7/7/2012 @ 8:24 am
You wonder why I’m cynical;

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/07/06/2885353/turning-the-corner-south-floridas.html

Comment by narciso (ee31f1) — 7/7/2012 @ 8:31 am
Mawry blames Booosh. SHOCKA!

Comment by Icy (534d91) — 7/7/2012 @ 8:33 am
I know water is damp,

Comment by narciso (ee31f1) — 7/7/2012 @ 8:38 am
Ya know, I’ve just been skimming along here, but did I actually see spointer give credit to Obama for the reduction/loss of state and local government jobs?

Did I REALLY see him saying that?!

Comment by Icy (534d91) — 7/7/2012 @ 8:39 am
Icy, generating random snark is such a strain on spointer’s intellect that actually making it consistent is beyond him.

Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 7/7/2012 @ 10:10 am
From IMAO: “Has Obama considering solving unemployment through a not having a job tax?”

Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 7/7/2012 @ 10:12 am
Mawy –

Total Federal Employment (Civ & Mil)
2000: 4.129MM
2008: 4.206MM
2010: 4.443MM

Total employment growth under Bush (8-years)= 77,000

Total employment growth under Obama (2-years – 2010 data latest available) = 237,000!

Yes, I wish Obama’s Federal Employment growth was the same as Bush’s too.

http://www.opm.gov/feddata/HistoricalTables/TotalGovernmentSince1962.asp

What a Maroon!

Comment by AD-RtR/OS! — 7/6/2012 @ 10:56 am |Edit This

Are you pig ignert, or a liar, JournoLister?

Comment by JD (dfaa6e) — 7/7/2012 @ 10:23 am
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“Has Obama considering solving unemployment through a not having a job tax?”

That really wouldn’t be too different from the tactics the French left has used, in which companies are penalized for or restricted from terminating employees. Or for quite awhile — even under politicians like the quasi-conservative former French president Nicolas Sarkozy — there is so much red tape that a business is required to go through before it can fire workers, that it’s easier to let them hang around until the business is forced to shut down.

But, wait! French Socialists are currently devising legislation that will make it tougher for companies to close up shop and sell their assets.

‘Ya can’t make this stuff up.

Comment by Mark (c417dc) — 7/7/2012 @ 10:49 am
JD, you know Mawy cannot deal well with facts.

Comment by AD-RtR/OS! (2bb434) — 7/7/2012 @ 1:11 pm
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/07/06/Obama-Malaise-Speech

Comment by narciso (ee31f1) — 7/7/2012 @ 1:31 pm
Glenn Reynolds has been saying for some time that Obama’s presidency being a repeat of Jimmy Carter is now a best case scenario.

Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 7/7/2012 @ 1:40 pm
I think ‘Americathon’ is a reasonable goal.

Comment by narciso (ee31f1) — 7/7/2012 @ 1:49 pm
Comment by SPQR — 7/7/2012 @ 1:40 pm

Probably Mitt’s best line, so far, in the campaign was saying you know how bad it has become when you look back to the Nixon and Carter years as “the good old days”.

Comment by AD-RtR/OS! (2bb434) — 7/7/2012 @ 1:51 pm
93. While I do believe empathy provides the species with some fitness for survival,

the self-esteem of CA liberals and Fwench socialists will not be harmed by their existential demise.

Gene pool rot cannot be overcome.

Comment by gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 7/8/2012 @ 5:08 am
“I blame Bush” was it you who blamed the death of firefighters on Obama? Hypocrite. Even if it wasn’t you you should have called out the person who did. Hypocrite.

Comment by tye (abb471) — 7/8/2012 @ 5:20 am
109, 110. I rest my case.

Comment by gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 7/8/2012 @ 5:52 am
Obama wants to convert tye’s species into a renewable energy source.

Comment by Icy (534d91) — 7/8/2012 @ 6:36 am
I don’t live in CA.

Comment by tye (abb471) — 7/8/2012 @ 6:39 am
How about that jobs report, “tye”. Epic fail, again, huh?

Comment by JD (f4e1b6) — 7/8/2012 @ 6:53 am
Is he really any dumber than this fellow;

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/07/08/2884984/presidential-campaigns-missing.html

Comment by narciso (ee31f1) — 7/8/2012 @ 7:06 am
80,000 job are actual jobs. Obama’s “war on jobs” isn’t going as well as Romney’s war on jobs while governor of MA or at Bain. That war went really well… for his pocketbook. Reminds me of Cheney’s pocket and the Iraq war.

Comment by tye (540dc4) — 7/8/2012 @ 9:28 am
Liar. Typical. 4.6% unemployment while Gov. The rest is pure fantasy fiction and lying on your behalf. Eff off

Comment by JD (f4e1b6) — 7/8/2012 @ 9:31 am
80,000 jobs in last month … 85,000 new additions to disability roles.

You are better off unable to work in Obama’s economy than wanting to work.

Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 7/8/2012 @ 9:34 am
Unemployment at 5.6% when he took office and 4.7% when he left.

Comment by JD (f4e1b6) — 7/8/2012 @ 9:39 am
117- okay what about his record as governor was an actul lie? Riddle me that one, biff.

Comment by tye (540dc4) — 7/8/2012 @ 9:56 am
At the end of your messiah’s governorship his approval rating was 39% while his disapproval rating was 59%. Ouch. Not good enough for MA, not good enough for the United States.

Obama 2012

Comment by tye (a38d31) — 7/8/2012 @ 10:00 am
“Obama’s “war on jobs” isn’t going as well as Romney’s war on jobs while governor of MA or at Bain.”

tye – Pure comedy tye. Thanks for shitting yourself again. Unemployment under Obama versus unemployument under Gov. Romney? I’ll take Romney, thanks.

Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/8/2012 @ 10:02 am
117- okay what about his record as governor was an actul lie? Riddle me that one, biff.

Romney had no war on jobs, liar. He improved a good business climate to a better one. I don’t like him, so your messiah nonsense is also a lie.

How are Teh One’s approval ratings compared to when he took office?

Comment by JD (f4e1b6) — 7/8/2012 @ 10:08 am
At the end of your messiah’s governorship …

Another example of tye’s stupidity in trolling. Its Obama that has been treated as the messiah of his political party, not Romney. Its not Romney who claimed that his inauguration would be noted for being the point at which the oceans ceased to rise.

Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 7/8/2012 @ 10:10 am
This one needs to tye his nutsack in a knot — his brains are slapping against one another.

Comment by Icy (ae16c4) — 7/8/2012 @ 10:10 am
And of course we’re all aware that the good people of Masachussetts know what’s best for them; that’s why they voted for Deval Patrick and the guy what drove his car underwater.

Comment by Icy (ae16c4) — 7/8/2012 @ 10:14 am
122- they are amazing

Comment by tye (a38d31) — 7/8/2012 @ 10:17 am
tye, they are amazing? Does your horse taste like lemonade?

Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 7/8/2012 @ 10:18 am
124- that’s actually pretty funny but I’ll bet you’ve used that before or stole it from someone.

123- what you conservatives observe and label worship of Obama is actually just the absence of racism towards him. They can look the same to the untrained (racist) eye.

Comment by tye (a38d31) — 7/8/2012 @ 10:21 am
Note, “tye” abandoned one lie, for another.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/obama_approval_index_history

Comment by JD (318f81) — 7/8/2012 @ 10:21 am
The tyke rode his tryke into the dyke; it cracked, and all of the truth drained away.

Comment by Icy (ae16c4) — 7/8/2012 @ 10:21 am
He is the one we have been waiting for. He will heal the world, and stop the oceans from rising. I have never been as proud of my country as I am right now.

Your RACISTS schtick is getting tiresome, “tye”. You accused SPQR of some pretty vile things, previously. Care to support your position?

Comment by JD (318f81) — 7/8/2012 @ 10:23 am
tye and spointer, both as sharp as basketballs.

Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/8/2012 @ 10:25 am
I hate obama I just hate him and it’s not just me lots of people hate him cause of how he raped the economy so viciously and unendingly and real people are hurting they can’t get jobs and life is just passing them by while obama rapes freedom and rapes small business and rapes everybody’s future especially the children

Comment by happyfeet (3c92a1) — 7/8/2012 @ 10:27 am
124- that’s actually pretty funny but I’ll bet you’ve used that before or stole it from someone.
– No, sweetie, that was an original. What can I say? You ARE my muse.

123- what you conservatives observe and label worship of Obama is actually just the absence of racism towards him. They can look the same to the untrained (racist) eye.
– That’s right; all conservatives are racist. Blah, blah, blah, yadda, yadda, yadda, yabba, dabba doo!

Comment by Icy (ae16c4) — 7/8/2012 @ 10:32 am
131- in the same comment that you deny racism you rip a black woman for being proud of her country, which has come a long way since the 60s (both 18– and 19–) to elect its first black president. Moron.

Comment by tye (a38d31) — 7/8/2012 @ 10:32 am
Criticizing a moronic statement is RACIST !!!!!!!!

Comment by JD (f4e1b6) — 7/8/2012 @ 10:40 am
Unemployment Rate Dropped In Every State That Elected A Republican Gov. In 2010

And then there’s this:

Take longtime Democrat Debbie Smith. Four years ago, she wore the Obama T-shirts, went to his rallies, made her first campaign contribution and caucused for the first time.

“I wish to have my vote back,” said Smith, 51, a small business owner from Clive. “I feel completely responsible, and I feel like I need to tell people this.”

Comment by peedoffamerican (606d27) — 7/8/2012 @ 10:55 am
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123- what you conservatives observe and label worship of Obama is actually just the absence of racism towards him.

Nothing is both more fascinating and amusing to me than when liberals start throwing around the racist label at opponents of Obama, when those same liberals — if Obama were a staunch conservative — would look up and down, glance sideways, and then whistle a happy little tune if harsh criticism were being aimed at him.

The only race, if you will, that quite a few on the left care about is — and if ideology were added to the list of races or ethnicities — the race of leftism.

Comment by Mark (c417dc) — 7/8/2012 @ 10:56 am
#136, Michelle Obama actually said that when her husband was nominated it was the first time in her life she was proud of her country.

And she was rightly criticized for it, and if there are racist elements to be found there it’s coming out of her mouth and finding root in the minds of her apologists.

Comment by ropelight (f86b5b) — 7/8/2012 @ 10:57 am
tye, you are comfortable with Michelle-O (rhymes with Jell-O; but enough about her thighs — that’s the arugula flapping) saying “For the first time in my adult life I am really proud of my country”? Were you also not really proud of your country until her husband secured the Democratic Party nomination in 2008?

Comment by Icy (ae16c4) — 7/8/2012 @ 10:58 am
Debbie has repented but I’m not sure she’s forgiven

so many people’s lives have been obamaraped asunder

damn right you’re responsible

Comment by happyfeet (3c92a1) — 7/8/2012 @ 11:09 am
136- no but calling a statement like that moronic is at the very least extremely insensitive. And if you stack this up with all other such similar statements you’ve made it adds up to…. well, you get the idea.

Comment by tye (a38d31) — 7/8/2012 @ 11:17 am
My daughter is ten. She discuss things with me, such as the Westboro Baptist Church, what cults are, whether we are cultural Christians, agnostics, atheists. The many different faces of God. Also racist, sexist, homophobe. She understands, at ten, that those are labels with little meaning, especially when overused. Like using the n-word, they say more about you than the person you are referring to.

Comment by nk (875f57) — 7/8/2012 @ 11:17 am
Prove it. You cannot do so, because I have not made any racist comments. Prove your claims against SPQR too. Tick tock.

Comment by JD (f4e1b6) — 7/8/2012 @ 11:18 am
Just imagine, if the shoe was on the other foot;

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/03/michelle_obamas_patientdumping_1.html

Comment by narciso (ee31f1) — 7/8/2012 @ 11:23 am
You could have knocked me over with a feather when she asked about St. Paul’s Epistle to the Romans, referring to homosexuality. I don’t know how good a job I did explaining that it was in the context of kidnapping people for the purpose of slavery including the rape of male slaves and not necessarily a proscription against men loving men or women loving women.

Comment by nk (875f57) — 7/8/2012 @ 11:23 am
only a moron would say that labeling something moronic “moronic” is “insensitive”.

the truth hurts the st00pid amongst us most of all. it’s like holy water or sunlight to a vampire.

face it: both the First Klingon and our SCOAMF are, at best, low average intellects with mediocre educations, a dearth of critical thinking skills and poor communication abilities.

their command of the english language is primarily limited to leading it on suicide charges, and only a fellow paint chip eater would maintain otherwise.

Comment by redc1c4 (403dff) — 7/8/2012 @ 11:36 am
Uncertainty about the depth of U.S. budget cuts is having a paralyzing effect on the American defense industry’s plans for investment and hiring, top executives from the sector warned on Sunday.

The AIA has said the additional budget cuts — estimated at 10 to 14 percent of Pentagon spending — could result in the loss of 1 million jobs and a 25 percent reduction in U.S. economic growth, while harming the U.S. defense industrial base and national security.*

tell us more about the food stamp multiplier effect

Comment by happyfeet (3c92a1) — 7/8/2012 @ 11:42 am
Yeah, I thought so. Nothing.

Comment by JD (f4e1b6) — 7/8/2012 @ 11:42 am
Ain’t no Keynesian like a defense Keynesian.

Comment by spointer (01dabf) — 7/8/2012 @ 11:44 am
Spointer is also Sheldon. And imdw.

Comment by JD (f4e1b6) — 7/8/2012 @ 11:46 am
because we all know that national defense is not a core obligation of the federal government, and can therefore be cut without any considerations other than budgetary issues.

as usual, the left engages in treason and calls it patriotism.

Comment by redc1c4 (403dff) — 7/8/2012 @ 11:51 am
When one is influenced by this fellow it’s bound to
rub off

http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/08/reverend-wright-knocks-obama-in-sunday-sermon/

Comment by narciso (ee31f1) — 7/8/2012 @ 11:53 am
144- You would never be otherwise convinced because, in some ways, racism and bigotry is subjective. I’m not accusing you of lynching. You use the word RACIST! as a punchline as if racism were somehow funny. It is most certainly not eradicated. Strangers will still engage me in conversation and use the n-word in reference to black people, so no, racism is not a punchline to me. You won’t hear me laughing at it. You’re a jerk, a bully, and a bigot. …Maybe even a racist, depending on whose subjective definition we are using.

Comment by tye (a38d31) — 7/8/2012 @ 11:57 am
152- treason? By whose definition? Ann Coulter? You’re funny.

Comment by tye (a38d31) — 7/8/2012 @ 11:59 am
racism is an industry unto itself really not unlike food stamps

but what obama done on black people’s jobs is worse than racism it’s more like employment genocide

Comment by happyfeet (3c92a1) — 7/8/2012 @ 12:02 pm
Now , mind you there’s practically no difference;

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/07/dnc-chief-were-happy-with-dismal-job-growth-8-2-unemployment-video/

Comment by narciso (ee31f1) — 7/8/2012 @ 12:03 pm
Never claimed racism was eradicated. Kill that strawperson. I am not responsible for the actions of your fictitious strangers, that is Kimberlin logic. You accused me of being racist. You accused SPQR of specific actions. Without any basis. It is fundamentally dishonest of you. It is how you roll.

Comment by JD (f4e1b6) — 7/8/2012 @ 12:06 pm
I never said you claimed racism was eradicated. Are you literate?

Comment by tye (a38d31) — 7/8/2012 @ 12:11 pm
The race card when they have nothing else, happyfeet. You see, they are too stupid to know how stupid they are. Their “intellect” does not permit them reasoning — only labels and trite rote. You cannot teach them. You might as well talk to a dead log. They did make good concentration camp guards, though.

Comment by nk (875f57) — 7/8/2012 @ 12:12 pm
Your method of debate seems to be to take a statement I made, claim you never said that, then discount the entire argument based off of that, even though I never attributed that statement to you. You are bad at this.

Comment by tye (a38d31) — 7/8/2012 @ 12:13 pm
Oh, well. Different day, same troll. The goal is for this numbskull to say “See! I are smart!”

Why can’t this type of person just move along? It’s a BrokeBlog Mountain kind of thing.

Comment by Simon Jester (646ce7) — 7/8/2012 @ 12:15 pm
What is so beautiful about this is how “tye” and it’s flippant and casual claims of racism does a disservice to the term, rendering it meaningless. Criticize Michelle Obama’s silly statement? Racist. Oppose tye’s extremist political views? Racist. Or, it will just make up strangers and use that as proof. You Rethuglicans would not hire black people, because, THURMOND!!!

Comment by JD (f4e1b6) — 7/8/2012 @ 12:15 pm
I think you mean MOOchelle.

Comment by spointer (01dabf) — 7/8/2012 @ 12:19 pm
157. These clowns, Obabe’s marketing minions, never miss an opportunity to blow the narrative.

Not saying his constituency will vote for Willard, they aren’t so brain dead that they believe their lot could be a whit better by voting for this talentless loser, First Bastard.

Even his lieutenants are mailing it in.

Comment by gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 7/8/2012 @ 12:23 pm
Again you’re putting words in my mouth. I said that calling her statement moronic was extremely insensitive. When you constantly remark about these things, however, it desensitizes people to the remarks. Suddenly being proud of a landmark achievement for an African-American is labeled “moronic” and nobody has the sense (besides me, apparently) to call you out on your bigoted remark.

Comment by tye (a38d31) — 7/8/2012 @ 12:23 pm
Okay, I am bigoted against morons.

Comment by JD (f4e1b6) — 7/8/2012 @ 12:24 pm
163-I used the “stranger” anecdote as proof that racism is still alive and well. Are you now claiming that that is not true? Just a few minutes ago you argued that I put those words into your mouth and that (in your mind) nullified my statement. Which is it biff?

Comment by tye (a38d31) — 7/8/2012 @ 12:27 pm
think you’ve seen it all?
they double down on stupid
teh Left can’t help it

Comment by Colonel Haiku (e67b0e) — 7/8/2012 @ 12:27 pm
When we kick this golf-playing, race card playing, $85 million vacation taking, Chicago Machine buttboy, out of the White House, I will still be very proud of America.

Comment by nk (875f57) — 7/8/2012 @ 12:28 pm
no they can’t help it
teh m00nbat left can’t help it
they are consistent

Comment by Colonel Haiku (e67b0e) — 7/8/2012 @ 12:29 pm
I have yet to see a statement by Michelle that was not moronic.

Comment by nk (875f57) — 7/8/2012 @ 12:30 pm
teh tyena howls
just raging at teh m00nbat m00n
he feels impotent

Comment by Colonel Haiku (e67b0e) — 7/8/2012 @ 12:31 pm
163-I used the “stranger” anecdote as proof that racism is still alive and well. Are you now claiming that that is not true?

Nobody disputes it is alive and well. However, I have never had a stranger drop the n-bomb on me. Convenient for you.

Comment by JD (f4e1b6) — 7/8/2012 @ 12:31 pm
he can’t quit us folks
can’t put us down for a while
he’s dazed and confused

Comment by Colonel Haiku (e67b0e) — 7/8/2012 @ 12:34 pm
Trolls like tye are like fat kids who fart in classrooms, they always look around for someone else to blame, but since they enjoy attention too, they can’t help but make a show of pointing fingers in an attempt to demonstrate self-attributed virtue.

tye probably isn’t a real racist, he’s only an opportunistic racist who uses accusations he knows are false to discomfort his adversaries and to preen for public consumption.

I suspect he’s the sort of low-brow, unemployable, entitlement recipient that fits right in with Obama’s pathetic need for the unending adulation of compulsive ass kissers and miscellaneous goofy squirts with time on their hands because they can’t get girls.

Comment by ropelight (f86b5b) — 7/8/2012 @ 12:35 pm
174- Obviously I can’t prove that that happened but it makes no difference if you do not dispute the point I was making.

170- yes your side’s quest to “re-white” the white house are well documented.

Comment by tye (a38d31) — 7/8/2012 @ 12:36 pm
0 looks in mirror
skeletal and jug-eared but
he likes what he sees

Comment by Colonel Haiku (e67b0e) — 7/8/2012 @ 12:37 pm
You’re wrong, ropelight. Tye is the fart.

Comment by nk (875f57) — 7/8/2012 @ 12:37 pm
176- by your logic the police officer who arrests the lynch mob is racist. Kudos to you for making a ridiculous argument with bathroom humor. I’m going to guess that you’re in 8th grade

Comment by tye (a38d31) — 7/8/2012 @ 12:38 pm
0 looks in mirror
skeletal and jug-eared but
he ~~likes~~ loves what he sees

Comment by Colonel Haiku (e67b0e) — 7/8/2012 @ 12:38 pm
i submit that it is impossible to put words into “tye’s” mouth, given the difficulty in getting them past his feet, even if you could get them into the body cavity where his head is permanently located to begin with.

laparoscopic surgery might w*rk, but it’s not covered under the Obama Healthcare Tax.

Comment by redc1c4 (403dff) — 7/8/2012 @ 12:40 pm
Too stupid and self-centered, like a two-year old crack baby, to know it is not being taken seriously.

Comment by nk (875f57) — 7/8/2012 @ 12:40 pm
high-pitched staccato
teh tyena flatulence
teh Masai giggle

Comment by Colonel Haiku (e67b0e) — 7/8/2012 @ 12:42 pm
we don’t want to “re-white” the white house…

we just want to put a competent, patriotic, American back in it. color and sex have nothing to do with that.

Comment by redc1c4 (403dff) — 7/8/2012 @ 12:43 pm
183- it is quite silly of me to expect lifelong bigots to repent and apologize.

Comment by tye (a38d31) — 7/8/2012 @ 12:43 pm
it’s teh Circle of Life®

Comment by Colonel Haiku (e67b0e) — 7/8/2012 @ 12:43 pm
and Ear Leader is not “African American”: he’s mixed race.

Morgan Freeman said so.

(does that make him racist too? %-)

Comment by redc1c4 (403dff) — 7/8/2012 @ 12:44 pm
Still waiting on the specific evidence of my racism, or evidence of the claims you made about SPQR.

Comment by JD (f4e1b6) — 7/8/2012 @ 12:44 pm
it is quite silly of me to expect lifelong bigots to repent and apologize.

that’s okay, we never expected you would admit to your failings, let alone repent OR apologize.

Comment by redc1c4 (403dff) — 7/8/2012 @ 12:45 pm
teh tyena strains
he is Mother of Invention
teh whoopee cushion

Comment by Colonel Haiku (e67b0e) — 7/8/2012 @ 12:45 pm
Again, back to lifelong bigots. You are a clown tye.

Comment by JD (f4e1b6) — 7/8/2012 @ 12:47 pm
189- are you high? I just addressed that statement. Read 154 genius.

Comment by tye (a38d31) — 7/8/2012 @ 12:53 pm
Are we going to be stuck with the little pickle-biter until the election?

Comment by nk (875f57) — 7/8/2012 @ 12:56 pm
194- oh how cute! Homophobic too!

Comment by tye (a38d31) — 7/8/2012 @ 12:58 pm
How stupid can the f****ng thing be? The stupid little pickle-biter’s labels are meaningless to anyone with an IQ over 85. Any response to it is an exercise in disgusted contempt, but it is too moronic to know it. Do we really need to waste Patterico’s bandwidth on this fart?

Comment by nk (875f57) — 7/8/2012 @ 1:08 pm
196- they are meaningless to you, but I wouldn’t go patting yourself on the back about that IQ quite yet.

Comment by tye (a38d31) — 7/8/2012 @ 1:24 pm
nk, an apt summation.

Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 7/8/2012 @ 2:05 pm
Meanwhile ….

“The job market in these Republican states is improving 50% faster than the national rate.”

Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 7/8/2012 @ 3:37 pm
191. ‘tyena’, thread peak.

Comment by gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 7/8/2012 @ 3:38 pm
Is that THE tye? Have you guys heard? He LOVES him some black people I tell ya what.

Comment by Jack Klompus (3b425f) — 7/8/2012 @ 5:54 pm
I blame Bush.

Also, tye is a racist because he thinks that brown people need him to call us racists. He is a homophobe, too, for the same reason.

Unless he is a racist homosexual. Rules are rules.

Comment by Ag80 (b2c81f) — 7/8/2012 @ 7:47 pm
Comment by tye — 7/8/2012 @ 11:57 am
You use the word RACIST! as a punchline as if racism were somehow funny.
– Ya know, if you can’t even figure this one without help, then maybe you truly are beyond help. [Hint: We might be making sarcastic reference to the fact that there always seems to be at least one liberal pundit willing to play the race card whenever a conservative dares criticize the president.]

It is most certainly not eradicated.
– Who claimed that it was?

I never said you claimed racism was eradicated. Are you literate?
Comment by tye — 7/8/2012 @ 12:11 pm
– Why, then, did you make the above comment? Just rhetorically spitballing out loud for the hell of it?

Comment by tye — 7/8/2012 @ 12:23 pm
I said that calling her statement moronic was extremely insensitive.
– Somebody is certainly being quite sensitive.

Suddenly being proud of a landmark achievement for an African-American is labeled “moronic”
– Who do you think you’re talking to here, a group of fourth graders? She didn’t say that she was proud of her husband; she said she was proud of her country for not being so racy racist for a moment.

170- yes your side’s quest to “re-white” the white house are well documented.
Comment by tye — 7/8/2012 @ 12:36 pm
– Oh Good Allah! What is he going on about now?

183- it is quite silly of me to expect lifelong bigots to repent and apologize.
Comment by tye — 7/8/2012 @ 12:43 pm
– We’re all bigots around here, are we?

Comment by Icy (ae16c4) — 7/8/2012 @ 10:39 pm
Okay, I am bigoted against Mormons.
Comment by Lawrence O’Donnell — each weekday @ 8:00 pm

– Fixed.

Comment by Icy (ae16c4) — 7/8/2012 @ 10:48 pm
Mormons. The first (and the only before Korea) to beat the US Army to a standstill. Got us a non-WASP Catholic in JFK, and a Born Again non-WASP in Reagan. Might be the Republic will still stand with a WASMormon.

Comment by nk (875f57) — 7/8/2012 @ 11:02 pm
What recovery? is how Glenn Reynolds labeled that graphic.

Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 7/9/2012 @ 5:50 am
202- there you go speaking for me again. Let me try.

Ag80 thinks that nuking elementary schools in Afghanistan is an important step in the long term war on terror.

Comment by tye (12df52) — 7/9/2012 @ 6:51 am
tye, it sure is hilarious how you don’t like your own behavior turned upon you. Only confirms that you’ve got nothing substantive to say at all.

Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 7/9/2012 @ 7:04 am
SPQR – “tye” is just searching for real and honest debate.

Comment by JD (f4e1b6) — 7/9/2012 @ 7:07 am
56 percent of likely voters think Obama has “changed” country for the worse. 35 percent say for the better.

Thankfully in January we’ll have a new President and a chance to start reversing the damage Obama has done.

Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 7/9/2012 @ 7:08 am
I know he’s taking the do it yourself course in idioting, but facts are stubborn things

http://www.thepiratescove.us/2012/07/09/hill-poll-most-feel-obama-has-changed-the-country-for-the-worse/

Comment by narciso (ee31f1) — 7/9/2012 @ 7:08 am
JD, doubt he’ll find it in his colon where he’s searching.

Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 7/9/2012 @ 7:09 am
That’s hilarious, narciso.

Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 7/9/2012 @ 7:09 am
208-i don’t speak for others excepting the occasions when I’m mocking you for doing it.

Comment by tye (12df52) — 7/9/2012 @ 7:10 am
tye, you seem unable to even remember your own comments. Have you seen a doctor for those symptoms?

Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 7/9/2012 @ 7:11 am
Honestly, SPQR, if you were him, would you want to?

Comment by narciso (ee31f1) — 7/9/2012 @ 7:24 am
215- show me.

Comment by tye (12df52) — 7/9/2012 @ 7:26 am
Tick tock.

Comment by tye (12df52) — 7/9/2012 @ 8:55 am
i don’t speak for others excepting the occasions when I’m mocking you for doing it.

Not true. You did it to me, and I had not spoken for others. You’re a liar.

Comment by Chuck Bartowski (e41361) — 7/9/2012 @ 9:55 am
Tye – when do you plan on supporting your claim that SPQR would be unwilling to hire a black person? Or that we are lifelong bigots? Kthxby

Comment by JD (318f81) — 7/9/2012 @ 9:57 am
Here was tye, responding to my comment that a lawmaker who cast a vote wrong had failed in a basic duty of her job:

Not once did I call her “unchaste”, nor did I ever say she deserved any punishment (other than losing her job for incompetence, but whether she keeps her job is up to her district).

So, tye, you are a liar. You routinely put words into the mouths of others. But when others do it it you, you claim foul. The only person you’re fooling here is yourself.

Comment by Chuck Bartowski (e41361) — 7/9/2012 @ 10:01 am
oops. forgot tye’s quote there. (I’m at an airport, working on an unfamiliar computer.)

too bad Chuck wasn’t there or that unchaste lady would have received her comeuppance. Right?

Comment by Chuck Bartowski (e41361) — 7/9/2012 @ 10:03 am
220- why dont you quote exactly what I said in context instead of being a weasely twerp and lying about what I said. Kthxby… are you a 13 year old girl?

Comment by tye (c47838) — 7/9/2012 @ 12:19 pm
222- not once in the quote that you supplied did I attribute that direct quote to you. Liar.

Comment by tye (c47838) — 7/9/2012 @ 12:24 pm
You are claiming you did not say that?!

Comment by JD (f4e1b6) — 7/9/2012 @ 12:24 pm
Point to where I said that chuck said that biff.

Comment by tye (c47838) — 7/9/2012 @ 12:28 pm
221-none of you conservatives read the Bible? The unchaste woman I was referring to was the adulteress in John 8:7…. good Lord… let me get that 8 egg omelette off of your face…

Comment by tye (c47838) — 7/9/2012 @ 12:34 pm
tye – Chuck was in the Bible?

Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/9/2012 @ 12:43 pm
228-nope. It is so weird that you’re not familiar with the Bible. Here I am the godless liberal giving you lessons on the official religion of ‘Merica.

Comment by tye (c47838) — 7/9/2012 @ 12:49 pm
Well, this silly little troll must feel good, typing away in his mother’s basement. What an odd person, truly. And clearly he feeds on the argumentation. Wow.

Comment by Simon Jester (c8876d) — 7/9/2012 @ 12:50 pm
Here I am the godless liberal

– Trvth at last!

Comment by Icy (c8cb6c) — 7/9/2012 @ 12:53 pm
230- I would be quite unfit if I fed on stupid. This place drips of it. Nobody wants to comment on how dumb they feel that they didn’t bother to look up the Bible reference before making really dumb comments about it? Or you can give up and just insult me…. 3…2…1…

Comment by tye (c47838) — 7/9/2012 @ 12:55 pm
Where was that bible reference in what you claimed about SPQR? Remember, where you claimed he wouldn’t hire black people? Or, in your meth stupor, did you black out?

Comment by JD (f4e1b6) — 7/9/2012 @ 1:04 pm
225- why don’t you address where you jumped into the argument without properly researching the context and where it came from. If you didn’t do that all the time I’ll bet you’d feel stupid about that occasion …

Comment by tye (c47838) — 7/9/2012 @ 1:07 pm
tye – Are you saying that the Democrat legislator who made the incorrect vote is an adulteress? Do you have a link for that? Are you claiming her personal life is what caused her to mess up her vote and that is the lesson we should all take away from this debacle? Remain true to your wedding vows or respect those of others? Why else bring Bible quotes into your comments?

What point are you trying to make Poindexter?

Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/9/2012 @ 1:07 pm
fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap

Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/9/2012 @ 1:09 pm
Tye does not like to answer for his own words.

Comment by JD (f4e1b6) — 7/9/2012 @ 1:10 pm
235- you’re not serious… read what I wrote. You are being monumentally stupid.

Comment by tye (c47838) — 7/9/2012 @ 1:11 pm
Wow, those were some pretty bad jobs numbers. Just awful. How depressing it must be for all those people who are willing to work and currently are looking for permanent jobs in Obama’s America.

Comment by elissa (3b7aa5) — 7/9/2012 @ 1:16 pm
In my original statement I made reference to Jesus’ parable. The adultress that I made reference to was the woman from that parable. Because chuck thinks that all mistakes should be punished, I said that it was a shame that he was not there to punish the adultress. Chuck apparently thinks he is without sin or mistakes.

Either you are kidding me about not understanding what I wrote ior you are profoundly stupid.

Comment by tye (c47838) — 7/9/2012 @ 1:20 pm
[Knock knock knock] “tye! are you thread-jacking it in there again?”
“No, ma’.” [fap fap fap]

Comment by Icy (c8cb6c) — 7/9/2012 @ 1:25 pm
tye, I assure you that you are not too sophisticated for the room.

Comment by SPQR (3f3342) — 7/9/2012 @ 1:26 pm
The retail and housing sectors will never recover in this country until more Americans are employed in the private sector and have some money to spend. With so many unemployed, families’ savings and retirement funds are being depleted as they just try to survive. Those lucky enough to have jobs worry constantly about satisfying the IRS and state governmental agencies who seem to be ever more zealous about taxing anything and everything.

Comment by elissa (3b7aa5) — 7/9/2012 @ 1:29 pm
241-never claimed that.

Comment by tye (c47838) — 7/9/2012 @ 1:30 pm
SPQR – notice how it specifically will not address the claims it made about you?

Comment by JD (f4e1b6) — 7/9/2012 @ 1:44 pm
elissa, none of that will matter when we can all just go down to the local Fed Bldg and collect our “dole”.
I can see it now, instead (as presently) of having a USDA office in every county of the land (USDA offices in New York, Kings, Queens, etc., County’s service a lot of farmers within NYC, don’t you know), they will be expanded to one per Congressional District (with branches) to better “minister” to the down-trodden.

Comment by AD-RtR/OS! (b8ab92) — 7/9/2012 @ 1:45 pm
t(y)ke suffers from extreme ADD, and can’t remember what it posted after hitting “submit”.

Comment by AD-RtR/OS! (b8ab92) — 7/9/2012 @ 1:46 pm
245- have you noticed that you are not acknowledging the stupid comment you made without looking at what I originally wrote? This immediate response demand is becoming tiresome. Why don’t you make yourself useful and find my direct quote? I sure as hell am not going to believe I said something on your word.

Comment by tye (c47838) — 7/9/2012 @ 1:47 pm
If you don’t pay attention to your own claims, tye, that is not my fault.

Comment by JD (f4e1b6) — 7/9/2012 @ 1:49 pm
Or are you too busy coming up with racist shit to say to do that… like that time that you said it was moronic for a black woman to be proud that her country elected its first black president.

Comment by tye (c47838) — 7/9/2012 @ 1:51 pm
That pipeline sure would present some nice job opportunities out west if the president didn’t keep blocking its construction.

Comment by elissa (3b7aa5) — 7/9/2012 @ 1:58 pm
Why does Barack Obama not want people to be able to earn an honest living building the pipeline?

Comment by elissa (3b7aa5) — 7/9/2012 @ 2:00 pm
251 – See 246.

Comment by AD-RtR/OS! (b8ab92) — 7/9/2012 @ 2:02 pm
Or are you too busy coming up with racist stuff to say to look up what I actually wrote… like that time that you said it was moronic for a black woman to be proud that her country just elected its first black president…

Comment by tye (c47838) — 7/9/2012 @ 2:20 pm
Flatyelence got its “second wind”?

Comment by nk (875f57) — 7/9/2012 @ 2:20 pm
Or are you too busy coming up with racist stuff to say to look up what I actually wrote… like that time that you said it was moronic for a black woman to be proud that her country just elected its first black president…

Back to the same old nonsense. BTW, that is not at all what she said. You are lying. Or stupid. Or both.

Comment by JD (318f81) — 7/9/2012 @ 2:25 pm
No employees= no taxes coming in to feed the beast. What goes around comes around. Maggie Thatcher understood that. Barack Obama does not. Killing private sector jobs does nothing to feed the beast. Killing jobs ultimately will kill the beast. But for most of us the combo of joblessness, hopelessness and national malaise is not the preferred method to take down the beast.

Comment by elissa (3b7aa5) — 7/9/2012 @ 2:25 pm
256- your ignorance woild be adorable if you weren’t a disgusting bigot.

Comment by tye (c47838) — 7/9/2012 @ 2:33 pm
“In my original statement I made reference to Jesus’ parable. The adultress that I made reference to was the woman from that parable.”

tye – Where is that original comment. Unlike godless heathens such as yourself, you should give a warning to non-bible humpers here that you are about to make some obscure reference to a long ago comment that has to do with a bible parable that you expect everybody to immediately recognize.

Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/9/2012 @ 2:37 pm
tye – we have been quite tolerant of your name-calling. You have called specific individuals bigots and racists based on nothing. You just called Elissa a digesting bigot based on less than nothing, which by your standards, makes you a racist and sexist misogynist.

Spqr doesn’t like it when black people vote or experience fair employment opportunities. He also doesn’t like that, by any definition of the word, that is indeed racist.

Substantiate your claims, or apologize.

Comment by JD (318f81) — 7/9/2012 @ 2:45 pm
I actually referenced the verse in the original comment. John 8:7 if I remember correctly. It is not at all obscure.

Comment by tye (c47838) — 7/9/2012 @ 2:46 pm
Tye – Your next comment will either substantiate your claims against SPQR and Elissa, or apologize.

Comment by JD (318f81) — 7/9/2012 @ 2:47 pm
Actually I did not call anyone a “digesting” bigot. Though the comment you are referring to was meant for you (my numbering is screwy… had a comment in moderation for using sh-t without the dash). I will most certainly offer an apology to elissa for that. Elissa, I apologize. That comment was not meant to be directed at you.

Comment by tye (c47838) — 7/9/2012 @ 2:50 pm
That is half of your apology.

Comment by JD (318f81) — 7/9/2012 @ 2:50 pm
As for you, jd you deserve all of this. Spqr is just as shameful as you.

Comment by tye (c47838) — 7/9/2012 @ 2:51 pm
So who were you calling a disgusting bigot, and based on what specifically, do you make that claim?

Comment by JD (318f81) — 7/9/2012 @ 2:51 pm
You. And we’ve gone over and over and over and over and over this…

Comment by tye (c47838) — 7/9/2012 @ 2:52 pm
Last chance, substantiate your claims, or go into moderation. There has been enough dishonesty, name calling, and overtly trollish behavior from you.

Comment by JD (318f81) — 7/9/2012 @ 2:53 pm
Let’s just focus on your specific claims about SPQR.

Comment by JD (318f81) — 7/9/2012 @ 2:54 pm
Yeah, I didn’t think so.

Comment by JD (318f81) — 7/9/2012 @ 2:56 pm
The spirit of America resides in responsible individual liberty and intellectual freedom, is refreshed by acts of personal respect and good will shown by people to other people, and is burnished and supported through the creativity and determination of its workforce.

Comment by elissa (3b7aa5) — 7/9/2012 @ 2:58 pm
What are my claims about spqr?

Comment by tye (c47838) — 7/9/2012 @ 3:01 pm
Quote me.

Comment by tye (c47838) — 7/9/2012 @ 3:01 pm
Spqr doesn’t like it when black people vote or experience fair employment opportunities. He also doesn’t like that, by any definition of the word, that is indeed racist.

Comment by JD (318f81) — 7/9/2012 @ 3:02 pm
That is the 2nd time I quoted you in this thread alone. Last chance.

Comment by JD (318f81) — 7/9/2012 @ 3:02 pm
“The spirit of America resides in responsible individual liberty and intellectual freedom, is refreshed by acts of personal respect and good will shown by people to other people, and is burnished and supported through the creativity and determination of its workforce.”

elissa – Does tye polishing and burnishing his own knob in public on somebody else’s website count?

Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/9/2012 @ 3:03 pm
“I actually referenced the verse in the original comment. John 8:7 if I remember correctly. It is not at all obscure.”

tye – That came after you blasted people for not recognizing the reference to “unchaste”, liar. If there is another “original” comment, link it.

Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/9/2012 @ 3:05 pm
It depends on whether that falls under the “respect and good will” portion or the “creativity in the workplace” portion I guess, daley.

Comment by elissa (3b7aa5) — 7/9/2012 @ 3:07 pm
274- in response to his argument that African-Americans are against affirmative action.

Comment by tye (c47838) — 7/9/2012 @ 3:08 pm
Tye does like not to take responsibility for it’s own words.

Comment by JD (318f81) — 7/9/2012 @ 3:08 pm
That makes no sense, tye. None.

Comment by JD (318f81) — 7/9/2012 @ 3:09 pm
277- the woman I referenced in that comment was an adulterer … thus “unchaste”.

Comment by tye (c47838) — 7/9/2012 @ 3:10 pm
I would not expect it to make sense to someone of your intelligence.

Comment by tye (c47838) — 7/9/2012 @ 3:10 pm
You claimed “Spqr doesn’t like it when black people vote or experience fair employment opportunities. He also doesn’t like that, by any definition of the word, that is indeed racist.”

You have offered less than no proof of your claims.

Comment by JD (318f81) — 7/9/2012 @ 3:12 pm
tye, trying to blame others for your own incoherent sputterings … well, its quite droll.

Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 7/9/2012 @ 3:12 pm
elissa – The technical difficulty is low, but I would look to the Albanian judge for a creativity score. They are into some nasty stuff from what I hear.

Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/9/2012 @ 3:12 pm
Still sticking to your claim that being proud of your country for electing a black man to the presidency is stupid?

Comment by tye (c47838) — 7/9/2012 @ 3:13 pm
Teh Tyena. That is all…

Comment by Colonel Haiku (01beee) — 7/9/2012 @ 3:14 pm
Still sticking to your claim that being proud of your country for electing a black man to the presidency is stupid?

She said that upon nomination, not election. Are you a liar, or stupid?

Comment by JD (318f81) — 7/9/2012 @ 3:14 pm
Huge difference. Care to explain your position that it is stupid to be proud that a black man was nominated to be president by a major political party?

Comment by tye (c47838) — 7/9/2012 @ 3:18 pm
277- the woman I referenced in that comment was an adulterer … thus “unchaste”.

tye – So you stated. Then later you said it was supposed to be a reference to a Bible parable. Who knew?

Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/9/2012 @ 3:18 pm
Comment by elissa — 7/9/2012 @ 2:00 pm

Why does Barack Obama not want people to be able to earn an honest living building the pipeline?

Political position by “environmentalists” who hope that by stopping the pipeline, they’ll stop people in Canada from extracting the gas.

Comment by Sammy Finkelman (216aa0) — 7/9/2012 @ 3:21 pm
Not only was my students’ writing appalling, but I soon encountered their resentment at being told about it. “Who are you to tell me I can’t write?”

She was the first teacher they had to say that.

Comment by Sammy Finkelman (216aa0) — 7/9/2012 @ 3:23 pm
tye – Care to explain the obsession of folks of your ilk with the color of peoples’ skin, ethnicity, religion, gender and sexual orientation yet tendency to call others not so obsessed racist or bigoted?

Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/9/2012 @ 3:23 pm
Uh, unchaste adulterers and the Bible have exactly what to do with the subject of this thread? A thread which is about jobs! Oh noes–surely it’s not an attempted threadjacking.

Comment by elissa (3b7aa5) — 7/9/2012 @ 3:23 pm
I’ll only be proud of this country when an aborigine dwarf transgendered mime is elected President.

Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 7/9/2012 @ 3:26 pm
OK, the “mime” part was a lie. I hate mimes.

Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 7/9/2012 @ 3:26 pm
Little known fact: Interestingly, in many places liberal tyenas and republican lions have developed a deep, mutual enmity for each other.

Comment by Colonel Haiku (01beee) — 7/9/2012 @ 3:30 pm
I’d be pretty proud to have this guy elected President.

Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 7/9/2012 @ 3:33 pm
I missed where the lying troll substantiated it’s claim against SPQR, or apologized for it’s vile smear. Off for a bike ride, and will check back later to see if it has any integrity. Lololololololololololololololol

Comment by JD (318f81) — 7/9/2012 @ 3:33 pm
139. Comment by ropelight — 7/8/2012 @ 10:57 am

136, Michelle Obama actually said that when her husband was nominated it was the first time in her life she was proud of her country.

She said that earlier, during the primary campaign. In fact, in February. I think it might have been his winning the Iowa caucauses and being a major contender that did that. I don’t know if he was exactly in the lead at that point.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYY73RO_egw

What we have learned over this year is that hope is making a comeback. It is making a comeback. And let me tell you something — for the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country. And not just because
Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change. And I have been desperate to see our country moving in that direction and just not feeling so alone in my frustration and disappointment. I’ve seen people who are hungry to be unified around some basic common issues, and it’s made me proud.”

So she was kind of proud of the political movement that Barack Obama led, or thought he led.

Comment by Sammy Finkelman (216aa0) — 7/9/2012 @ 3:35 pm
==Political position by “environmentalists” who hope that by stopping the pipeline, they’ll stop people in Canada from extracting the gas.==

Has Barack Obama ever sat with a newspaper editorial board in those states, or spoken at a campaign stop in Montana, Nebraska, South Dakota, Oklahoma, Kansas, or Texas and said, “Quite frankly I have been persuaded by environmentalists that preventing Canadians from extracting the gas is more important than allowing the pipeline to proceed across the U.S. Your ability to find construction employment to feed your kids, pay your mortgages, and save for your retirement is, and must be a secondary concern to me. I know you will understand.”

Didn’t think so.

Comment by elissa (3b7aa5) — 7/9/2012 @ 3:39 pm
“So she was kind of proud of the political movement that Barack Obama led, or thought he led.”

Sammy – Michelle was proud of meaningless amorphous slogans?

Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/9/2012 @ 3:39 pm
“Your ability to find construction employment to feed your kids, pay your mortgages, and save for your retirement is, and must be a secondary concern to me. I know you will understand.””

elissa – Or alternatively, the risks surrounding the questionable science about AGW are too great to ignore, so the actions I am going to take are going to cause the prices of the energy you consume to necessarily skyrocket. I know that will be a hardship for you, but I’m sure you understand.

Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/9/2012 @ 3:43 pm
Re: Allen West… SPQR, I watched a Fox News show late last week that Frank Luntz hosted with one of his “voter holds the gizmo and indicates whether what is being said by a politician is resonating” sessions and Rep. West was one of the speakers. Very impressive fellow who makes a helluva lot of sense.

Comment by Colonel Haiku (01beee) — 7/9/2012 @ 3:45 pm
You can see why he is feared by the left and their media lapdogs.

Comment by Colonel Haiku (01beee) — 7/9/2012 @ 3:45 pm
291- I referenced the actual verse in my original post.

Comment by tye (c47838) — 7/9/2012 @ 3:48 pm
291- I referenced the actual verse in my original post.

tye – What was the number of that original post?

Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/9/2012 @ 4:04 pm
“So she was kind of proud of the political movement that Barack Obama led, or thought he led.”

Comment by daleyrocks — 7/9/2012 @ 3:39 pm

Sammy – Michelle was proud of meaningless amorphous slogans?

Well, that’s all it actually was – I couldn’t understand what anybody thought they were doing, but apparently it was real.

She thought he was the second coming of Eugene McCarthy. It was an insurgent campaign. She was really proud of all those volunteers (and people who packed the caucuses)

Comment by Sammy Finkelman (216aa0) — 7/9/2012 @ 4:08 pm
here

Comment by tye (c47838) — 7/9/2012 @ 4:11 pm
They are from Chicago, and hence their experience is the Daley machine, according to Klein, she felt
her father Fraser Robinson, had been slighted by
them, despite his faithful service,

Comment by narciso (ee31f1) — 7/9/2012 @ 4:11 pm
And the people who showed up at his speeches. And who contributed small amounts of money. Obama was very interested in that and he did collect a lot of small donations. Besides money raised, he was counting the numbe of different people he raised it from. (after all they were also voters, or caucus goers.)

Obama did a great deal better in the caucus states than in the primary states. And in Texas, which had both a caucus and a primary, he won the caucus but lost the primary.

Comment by Sammy Finkelman (216aa0) — 7/9/2012 @ 4:11 pm
There was that, but I think he also had to be black to achieve liftoff. That was responsible for a lot of his early money. I think actually the Clinton’s were pushing him, thinking he would crowd out other contenders, but then lose. But Hillary Clinton lost to the Frankenstein monster she and Bill helped create.

Comment by Sammy Finkelman (216aa0) — 7/9/2012 @ 4:15 pm
Barack Obama was really, really, really, being pushed at the 2004 Democratic National convention. And not because he was having any trouble in Illinois.

Comment by Sammy Finkelman (216aa0) — 7/9/2012 @ 4:16 pm
“Obama did a great deal better in the caucus states than in the primary states.”

Sammy – It was a lot easier for Obama thugs to cheat and game individual caucuses. Their behavior has been documented many places.

Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/9/2012 @ 4:16 pm
Comment by elissa — 7/9/2012 @ 3:39 pm

Can’t the man eat his waffle in peace?

Comment by AD-RtR/OS! (b8ab92) — 7/9/2012 @ 4:17 pm
Barack Obama was supposed to be a foil to Hillary Clinton – his political background killing him off in the end – not win!

Comment by Sammy Finkelman (216aa0) — 7/9/2012 @ 4:17 pm
The perfect sparring partner won the fight.

Comment by Sammy Finkelman (216aa0) — 7/9/2012 @ 4:18 pm
“291- I referenced the actual verse in my original post.”

tye – On a completely different thread on July 5? How silly for people not to remember such a significant comment! Putz.

Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/9/2012 @ 4:20 pm
“Barack Obama was supposed to be a foil to Hillary Clinton – his political background killing him off in the end – not win!”

Sammy – The Chicago Machine taught him well – cheaters prosper.

Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/9/2012 @ 4:22 pm
319- I wouldn’t expect someone to remember it, but I did not bring it up in this post. I simply defended myself when another brought it up and incorrectly interpreted it. Then I was attacked.

Comment by tye (c47838) — 7/9/2012 @ 4:23 pm
Colonel Haiku,of course West did well. He’s not a mime.

Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 7/9/2012 @ 4:27 pm
Barack Obama was really, really, really, being pushed at the 2004 Democratic National convention. And not because he was having any trouble in Illinois.

Comment by Sammy Finkelman

That’s because, as Slow Joe Biden said, he was “clean and articulate”…

Comment by Colonel Haiku (3e2692) — 7/9/2012 @ 4:32 pm
I wasn’t surprised by Allen West, but I think many in Luntz’s focus group were, as there was a preponderance of Democrats.

Comment by Colonel Haiku (3e2692) — 7/9/2012 @ 4:34 pm
No, it was always a scam, he was the candidate of big money, ;

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/business-economy-financial-crisis/money-power-wall-street/trouble-at-ubs-for-obamas-favorite-banker

Comment by narciso (ee31f1) — 7/9/2012 @ 4:34 pm
Pat Caddell makes a pretty compelling case against 0bama:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/07/09/taxes-and-trust

Comment by Colonel Haiku (3e2692) — 7/9/2012 @ 4:39 pm
Reinforcement is always good, but really who needs Pat Cadell? Obama himself makes a pretty compelling case against Obama as far as I can see.

Comment by elissa (3b7aa5) — 7/9/2012 @ 4:44 pm
Yeah, Colonel, it’s good stuff. From Cadell’s piece: The Abomination of Obamacare–

From the night that Obamacare passed more than two years ago, I said that the American people would reject this legislation as a Crime Against Democracy. That is, it was conceived, gestated, birthed, and weaned in corruption. It was enacted thanks to unsavory deals–with Big Pharma, with health insurers, with trial lawyers–as well as through the buying and selling of US Senators. And since then, it has been corruptly administered by the White House and the Department of Health and Human Services; as we have discovered over the last two years, those with enough clout can get a “waiver” from Secretary Sebelius, finagling their way out of health taxes that other people have to pay.

Ugh.

Comment by elissa (3b7aa5) — 7/9/2012 @ 4:49 pm
civility, such an interesting concept;

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/07/leftist-goons-vandalize-romney-bus-cut-alternator-belt/

Comment by narciso (ee31f1) — 7/9/2012 @ 5:09 pm
Made in Canada
Magical Misery Tour
teh bus to Lib Hell

Comment by Colonel Haiku (292a9f) — 7/9/2012 @ 5:32 pm
I am teh egg man
and they are teh egg mens but
Zer0′s teh TAXMAN

Comment by Colonel Haiku (292a9f) — 7/9/2012 @ 5:36 pm
choking smokers and
elementary penguin
they have free healthcare?

Comment by Colonel Haiku (292a9f) — 7/9/2012 @ 5:40 pm
“This November, if President Obama goes before the voters on the defensive–that is, on a rickety platform of defending Obamacare as a tax increase–it is he who has a huge problem. After all, his healthcare program was sold as a boon to the middle class, with a few regulatory sticks included therein. But if Obamacare can be exposed for what it is–a huge tax increase, the reality of which Obamacare proponents did their best to obscure–then the probability of his survival shrinks dramatically. To be sure, such an exposing of Obamacare as the ObamaTax will not be easy; the White House and the Democrats, as well as their handmaidens in the Main Stream Media, will do their best to armor up against any attack on the tax issue.

So Romney must wield that cudgel, and wield it hard. And so must Republicans, because if the campaign against Obamacare–the ObamaTax–is to be truly effective, it must be a top-to-bottom message. Indeed, as we shall see, the anti-ObamaTax message could be even stronger for down-ballot Republicans than for Romney himself.

The challenge is to keep the focus on the tax–the ObamaTax. Obamacare is many things, but the biggest single thing is the thing that they said it wasn’t–the ObamaTax.

The American people have shown that they can tolerate incompetent policy. But what they will not tolerate is being lied to. As a Jesuit might say, incompetence is a venial sin, but deception is a mortal sin. And so if troubling questions about Barack Obama’s incompetence turn into serious concerns about his character, the President will lose.”

- Pat Caddell

Comment by Colonel Haiku (292a9f) — 7/9/2012 @ 5:44 pm
319- I wouldn’t expect someone to remember it, but I did not bring it up in this post. I simply defended myself when another brought it up and incorrectly interpreted it. Then I was attacked.

Comment by tye — 7/9/2012 @ 4:23 pm

How very Kimberlin-esque

Comment by JD (f4e1b6) — 7/9/2012 @ 5:59 pm
Did you seriously put me in moderation to prevent me from explaining the Bible reference (in which I was clearly right)? You’re a coward jd.

Comment by tye (982939) — 7/9/2012 @ 6:17 pm
Nevermind….

Comment by tye (982939) — 7/9/2012 @ 6:17 pm
Senator Dick Durbin (D-ILL) is a lying corksoaker.

Just needed to get that off my chest.

Comment by Colonel Haiku (292a9f) — 7/9/2012 @ 6:34 pm
http://nation.foxnews.com/charles-krauthammer/2012/07/09/krauthammer-obama-it-s-declaration-he-s-surrendered-state-economy

Comment by narciso (ee31f1) — 7/9/2012 @ 6:36 pm
narciso, Krauthammer nails it. Which he is very good at doing, getting to the hard kernel of truth in any political question.

Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 7/9/2012 @ 6:40 pm
No, I cannot. I couldn’t care less what you say about the Bible. You still have not backed up your claim about SPQR, which says much about your complete lack of integrity. Hurling specious claims is your MO.

Comment by JD (f4e1b6) — 7/9/2012 @ 6:45 pm
I would point out that Obama’s proposal to extend tax rates (with the usual class warfare icing of some $250K ceiling) for just one year is exactly the kind of destructive policy proposal that is contributing to the economic stagnation – the uncertainty of tax policy.

Estate planning practioners in this country did not know what the f’ing estate tax for Tax Year 2011 would be until nine days before the year began – all because of Democrat/Obama brinksmanship on tax policy.

Its very destructive, and its all Obama’s fault. Because he has no leadership skills whatsoever.

Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 7/9/2012 @ 6:46 pm
It’s one of his promises, SPQR, to end the unpredictability of the business cycle,
stagnation is the result,

Comment by narciso (ee31f1) — 7/9/2012 @ 6:57 pm
narciso, its July of 2012 and we don’t know what the tax rates for 2012 will be? Its the perfect example of what is fundamentally wrong with the Democrats’ incompetent mismanagement of Federal policy.

Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 7/9/2012 @ 7:00 pm
“From the night that Obamacare passed more than two years ago, I said that the American people would reject this legislation as a Crime Against Democracy. That is, it was conceived, gestated, birthed, and weaned in corruption. It was enacted thanks to unsavory deals–with Big Pharma, with health insurers, with trial lawyers–as well as through the buying and selling of US Senators”

It’s like this guy has never seen legislation happen. What did you want? Kumbaya and the ADA is passed?

“narciso, its July of 2012 and we don’t know what the tax rates for 2012 will be? Its the perfect example of what is fundamentally wrong with the Democrats’ incompetent mismanagement of Federal policy.”

Why is this the democrat’s fault? Obama has made his proposal for what they should be.

Comment by spointer (64270f) — 7/9/2012 @ 7:12 pm
spointer, its the Democrats’ fault because in December 2010 they passed legislation that only set the tax policy for two years.

At that time, they lacked the leadership and courage to set rational policy for a longer period. Now we have a “proposal” for a one year extension? That’s a joke. Its not adult. Its not leadership. Its cheap, juvenile class warfare rhetoric – and an indication that Obama has given up entirely on even pretending to defend his egregious failures in policy.

You don’t pay any attention to the real world, do you spointer? Try living in this reality. The one where rational people and businesses need stable policies with which to make good decisions.

Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 7/9/2012 @ 7:19 pm
“spointer, its the Democrats’ fault because in December 2010 they passed legislation that only set the tax policy for two years.”

They had a longer term position then too…Is it only their fault that it wasn’t implemented?

Do you also blame the people that set the tax rates to expire in the first place? Know who that was?

“Now we have a “proposal” for a one year extension? That’s a joke. ”

You do know that that Eric Cantor’s version is also a one year extension, right?

Comment by spointer (64270f) — 7/9/2012 @ 7:28 pm
They had a super majority in the Senate, and huge majorities in the House, and chose to maintain current rates. Now they want to do 1 year to push it past the election. They currently want to raise taxes, amidst horrible “recovery” numbers. The Obama/Pelosi/Reid triumvirate wants to raise the rates they set previously. Maybe someday they will pass a budget.

About the same time imdw quits being a d-bag.

Comment by JD (318f81) — 7/9/2012 @ 7:30 pm
Is it only their fault that it wasn’t implemented

Yes.

Comment by JD (318f81) — 7/9/2012 @ 7:31 pm
Raising taxes on actual taxpayers will jumpstart the economy!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Comment by JD (318f81) — 7/9/2012 @ 7:33 pm
It always works out that way, doesn’t it.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brent-baker/2012/07/09/bizarrely-cbs-s-o-donnell-cites-cost-taxpayers-maintaining-current-inco#comments

Comment by narciso (ee31f1) — 7/9/2012 @ 7:34 pm
“They had a super majority in the Senate, and huge majorities in the House, and chose to maintain current rates.”

They chose to make a deal with the GOP. You’re blaming the democrats for a deal the GOP agreed to?

Comment by spointer (64270f) — 7/9/2012 @ 8:11 pm
What person, enterprise, or organization can draw investors without even a budget? Only one that can take the funds by force. “Other than the government”, those entities are typically criminal.

In a sane world a government which cannot even put together a budget, as required, should be ruled illegitimate and be replaced. The democrats who have been in power have failed in basic responsibility, don’t blur the issue with smoke. Those that were not already replaced in 2010 should be this year.

Comment by MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 7/9/2012 @ 8:14 pm
Did flatyelence switch to spootinter?

Comment by nk (875f57) — 7/9/2012 @ 8:21 pm
Yes, I am blaming the Dems. they controlled the White House, the House, and the Senate, imdw. Clearly that makes it Team R’s fault. Good Allah, your schtick is such mendacious sophistry, over and over and over.

Now, spointer, did you get the idea to post links to Patterico’s house from Kimberlin’s gang, or the DNC?

Comment by JD (318f81) — 7/9/2012 @ 8:22 pm
Nk – spointer is imdw, and about 30 other banned IPs and names.

Comment by JD (318f81) — 7/9/2012 @ 8:24 pm
It was a deal, why only pick on one side? Do you understand how these things work? You noticed that the vote was not just dems, right?

Comment by spointer (64270f) — 7/9/2012 @ 8:24 pm
It’s funny. According to the President and many liberal lawmakers who are then parroted by rah rah media, taxes are a wunnerful thing that people should clammor to pay more of. Yet when one talks to rank and file Democrats and other regular people, everybody hates taxes and loathes the IRS and understands why people want to spend their own money either purchasing things for their families, supporting local businesses and venues, paying off their debts, or saving for the future. Nobody ever says, “heck yeah, I want to pay more taxes to the wasteful and corrupt government.” It’s a real disconnect out there.

Comment by elissa (3b7aa5) — 7/9/2012 @ 8:25 pm
It wasn’t a deal, it was political cowardice on the part of the Dems. They knew that their goal of jacking up taxes would make their 2010 beating even worse. The idea that this was Team R’s fault when the Dems passed this, with Dems controlling every step of the process, with filibuster proof majorities in the Senate and huge majorities in the Pelosi House is beyond laughable. Typical sophistry from you, imdw.

Now, are we to assume that you taught the Kimberlin Crew and the DNC how to go after people’s homes online? You are such a pathetic coward.

Comment by JD (318f81) — 7/9/2012 @ 8:28 pm
That popular Obamatax bill was a real bi-partisan effort. Republicans flocked to be a part of that catastrophic job killing unread piece of garbage legislation–not.

Comment by elissa (3b7aa5) — 7/9/2012 @ 8:29 pm
I seem to remember some statements about the republicans could come along for the ride but would have to sit in the back of the bus.

Comment by peedoffamerican (ee1de0) — 7/9/2012 @ 8:32 pm
about should be “that” the republicans

Comment by peedoffamerican (ee1de0) — 7/9/2012 @ 8:33 pm
“The idea that this was Team R’s fault when the Dems passed this, with Dems controlling every step of the process, with filibuster proof majorities in the Senate and huge majorities in the Pelosi House is beyond laughable.”

But that’s not the idea. The fact is that it was a deal that both parties agreed to. Do you not remember 2010? You don’t remember this being discussed and agreed to?

Comment by spointer (64270f) — 7/9/2012 @ 8:35 pm
Oh my.

Obama: If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor. If you like your health care plan you can keep it.

Headline currently on Drudge: 83% of doctors consider quitting.

Comment by elissa (3b7aa5) — 7/9/2012 @ 8:37 pm
Obama 2009 – you don’t raise taxes coming out of a recession. Obama 2012 – raising taxes on the actual taxpayers is the key to recovery.

Spointer – your schtick is tiresome. How many names do you plan on using here? Are you paid to do this, or does your therapist think that it is a great idea for you to obsessively stalk the blog, posting pics of the hosts house, buddying up to convicted bombers and their buddies, and otherwise making an arse of yourself.

Comment by JD (318f81) — 7/9/2012 @ 8:38 pm
BTW, this sort of dumb-headed re-writing of major events is why partially why I think that Obama does not know how to handle his opposition, why I think there is no compromising with the opposition.

Comment by spointer (64270f) — 7/9/2012 @ 8:38 pm
So do you remember 2010? Ok. Glad we got that covered.

Comment by spointer (64270f) — 7/9/2012 @ 8:38 pm
The stimulus was a deal that both parties agreed to also, clearly it was the Republicans fault.

You are the perfect leftist, imdw. Beyond parody, unwilling to be honest, unwilling to accept responsibility for your own failures, and instead, blame everyone except yourself for your actions.

Comment by JD (318f81) — 7/9/2012 @ 8:40 pm
BTW, this sort of dumb-headed re-writing of major events

You are the one rewriting recnt history. How do you keep your head from assploding?!

Comment by JD (318f81) — 7/9/2012 @ 8:41 pm
Spointer is the one that posted links to Patterico’s home. And he is too cowardly to admit it. Maybe stashiu can add this new identity, along with Sheldon, to the list of IPs and names imdw has used.

Comment by JD (318f81) — 7/9/2012 @ 8:43 pm
Wasn’t 2010 the year when all those Repubs replaced Dems in the house of representatives and Nanny Pelosi lost her job mainly due to poor job performance and because of ignoring the will and wishes of the American electorate?

Comment by elissa (3b7aa5) — 7/9/2012 @ 8:44 pm
Goodnight, all.

Note how they are trying to blame Team R for their actions. And how desperately they do not want to talk about Obama’s War on Jobs and the Economy.

Comment by JD (318f81) — 7/9/2012 @ 8:44 pm
“So do you remember 2010?”

spointer – Good, then Obama immediately reverses course in 2012 and talks about the need for a balanced approach for reducing deficits (read increasing taxes). President Which Way Is The Wind Blowing strikes again. No rewriting history. The man can’t keep his positions or promises straight.

Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/9/2012 @ 8:45 pm
Elissa – that is disgustingly bigoted of you. Everything she did is Team R’s fault.

Comment by JD (318f81) — 7/9/2012 @ 8:45 pm
Should read – reverses course in 2011

Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/9/2012 @ 8:45 pm
We’ve gone beyond mere Vizzini, I mean they have no excuses,

Comment by narciso (ee31f1) — 7/9/2012 @ 8:47 pm
Nancy Pelosi prancing down the street with the big wooden gavel? That was Republican Paul Ryan’s idea. He made her do it.

Comment by elissa (3b7aa5) — 7/9/2012 @ 9:03 pm
this is the link btw;

http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/09/report-83-percent-of-doctors-have-considered-quitting-over-obamacare/

Comment by narciso (ee31f1) — 7/9/2012 @ 9:08 pm
Harry Reid’s cowardly decision not to bring a Democrat Senate budget to the floor for three years – the fault of obstructionist Republicans who couldn’t prevent it anyway.

Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/9/2012 @ 9:18 pm
SPQR: “….the kind of destructive policy proposal that is contributing to the economic stagnation – the uncertainty of tax policy.

Estate planning practioners in this country did not know what the f’ing estate tax for Tax Year 2011 would be until nine days before the year began – all because of Democrat/Obama brinksmanship on tax policy….”

That uncertainty created a lot of problems with planning: the estate planning practitioners did not know whether to advise people to die or not. Was dying in 2010 really a good idea, or would it not make a difference?

(I think most assumed the rate would be reverted to 2009 levels. In the end ,dead people were given a choice between using the law of 2009 or 2010. In cases of estates up to the low millions I think the 2009 law was better because the zero estate tax law did not step up capital gains)

OK, that’s a bad example.

Comment by Sammy Finkelman (216aa0) — 7/9/2012 @ 9:47 pm
Obama today proposed what he hoped was a trap for the Republicans: Extend the Bush tax cuts (to eliminate uncertainty, he said) but only for one year (he would like to raise some taxes for 2014) and not for those making over $250,000 a year. He was talking about income tax brackets. He’s actually been proposing this trap for a long time.

He said they could have a separate vote later on just the over $250,000 people.

Republicans objected saying those are the business creators. (Obama had said 97% of small business owners do not pay over $250,000 a year. Of course they don’t employ 97% of the people employed by small businesses)

On NBC tonight we learned some Democrats demurred at that $250,000 cutoff. Senator Schumer would like that to be $1 million. People in my state, he said, who earn $250,000 a year, aren’t rich. Nancy Pelosi is also on record (I think I heard on the Huckabee radio show) as favoring $1 million. That’s actually been the consensus Democratic position – raise the cutoff for raising income tax rates to a million Dollars.

But by broadcast time (6:30 PM EDT) Schumer was back in line.

Why not. The whole thing is purely political theater.

Comment by Sammy Finkelman (216aa0) — 7/9/2012 @ 9:58 pm
Do you also blame the people that set the tax rates to expire in the first place? Know who that was?

– Yes. It’s called “the Byrd rule”, as in “Robert ‘KKK’”.

Know who that was?

Comment by Icy (a2aa28) — 7/10/2012 @ 1:42 am
340- I’m waiting for my apology from daley. He ripped me for comments that turned out to be his own error (surprise surprise). After I proved my point he suddenly went silent about it. Remember when I apologized to elissa when I made the comment number mistake? I’m a better man than daley (and obviously jd).

Comment by tye (48243f) — 7/10/2012 @ 6:53 am
They always have to lie;

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/07/10/wapoabc-poll-shows-a-dead-heat/

Comment by narciso (ee31f1) — 7/10/2012 @ 6:54 am
Finkelman, in TY 2011 estates could retroactively choose treatment of TY 2010 deaths and as you say that had the advantage of setting up basis.

Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 7/10/2012 @ 7:17 am
381-strom thurmond was a racist. Trent Lott lauded him for it.

Comment by tye (48243f) — 7/10/2012 @ 7:29 am
“340- I’m waiting for my apology from daley. He ripped me for comments that turned out to be his own error (surprise surprise).”

tye – You can keep waiting. You kept insisting that your original comment to Chuck included a reference to a parable with no clue that the original comment was from a different thread four days earlier. Bonus points for obfuscation and extra-threadjacking. An honest commenter would have cleared that up right away, but you have no interest in such matters.

Now let’s look at your original comment:

“50- Chuck has never made a mistake, ever. His glass house is full of stone piles waiting to be cast. John 8:7…. too bad Chuck wasn’t there or that unchaste lady would have received her comeuppance. Right?

Comment by tye — 7/5/2012 @ 7:21 am”

Let’s see, two things going on here, even though expressed poorly in typical tye fashion. People who live in glass houses should not throw stones or something and a reference to John 8:7 which is roughly he who is without sin cast the first stone. Tye decides to throw in a gratuitous misogynistic reference to the Democratic legislator being unchaste or an adultress because John 8 is about judging an adultress, not because he has any evidence of the sexual behavior of the Democrat legislator. Sexual smears are the daily stock in trade of the tolerant left.

No tye, you get no apology for unnecessary obfuscation and threadjacking and your reference to John 8:7 does not even mention adultery. A reader has to go into the beginning of John 8 to find out who the stones are to be cast out.

Your faux butt hurt is your own problem.

Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/10/2012 @ 7:30 am
It’s very tiresome, Obama disallows the largest construction project, the Keystone Pipeline, that is the source of thousands of jobs, and a key to at least regional energy independence, and then he says
the private sector is doing fine, fracking is providing a huge bonanza everywhere it is being tried, but idiots like Carney will do anything to stop it.

Comment by narciso (ee31f1) — 7/10/2012 @ 7:43 am
It is not an obscure Bible reference. How many times do I have to explain that the “unchaste” reference was the adulterer in the Bible. I beg you to actually read that parable before you comment again, for your own good. You are making yourself seem extremely dense.

When you do read it I will be here ready for my apology.

Comment by tye (48243f) — 7/10/2012 @ 7:46 am
tye, the one being shown dense is you.

Repeatedly.

Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 7/10/2012 @ 7:50 am
From Glenn:

WAPO POLL: 54% Disapprove of Obama’s Handling of Economy. But wait, it gets worse: “When you consider how slanted the poll is, the numbers should terrify Team Obama. Of respondents only 24% call themselves Republicans, with a full 60% listed as Democrat or independent.”

Recovery for the country begins January 2013.

Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 7/10/2012 @ 7:52 am
Comment by SPQR — 7/10/2012 @ 7:17 am

Finkelman, in TY 2011 estates could retroactively choose treatment of TY 2010 deaths

Oh. yes that’s right. But I think they also retroactively allowed either tax scheme to be applied to 2010 deaths.

What is it for 2012?

and as you say that had the advantage of setting up basis.

For many estates the zero rate doesn’t make sense till you get into the high single digit millions, I understand.

Comment by Sammy Finkelman (216aa0) — 7/10/2012 @ 7:54 am
Ohhhh! Your complaint is that you had to read four sentences of the Bible.

And anyone who has a very basic knowledge of the Bible knows that story. If you do not have a basic knowledge you should have thoroughly read the story before rendering an opinion.

Tick tock….

Comment by tye (48243f) — 7/10/2012 @ 7:54 am
…unless they don’t intend to sell anything for a long time.

Comment by Sammy Finkelman (216aa0) — 7/10/2012 @ 7:55 am
Well, tye the racist, read four lines in a Bible. Whoopeee!!!

Comment by PCD (1d8b6d) — 7/10/2012 @ 8:17 am
394- you’re a clown.

Comment by tye (48243f) — 7/10/2012 @ 8:31 am
“When you do read it I will be here ready for my apology.”

tye – Read 383 then hold your breath.

Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/10/2012 @ 8:32 am
396- you are priceless. You opened your mouth before you should have, complained about having to read a small paragraph in the Bible, then insulted me instead of apologizing. You’re a lowly, lowly man daley.

Comment by tye (48243f) — 7/10/2012 @ 8:37 am
_____________________________________________

Senator Schumer would like that to be $1 million. People in my state, he said, who earn $250,000 a year, aren’t rich. Nancy Pelosi is also on record (I think I heard on the Huckabee radio show) as favoring $1 million. That’s actually been the consensus Democratic position – raise the cutoff for raising income tax rates to a million Dollars

That indicates that Obama is even further to the left than his already very leftwing colleagues in the Democrat Party are. But I will say that unlike the 1930s, when both a Republican and Democrat in the White House (ie, Hoover and Roosevelt) ramped up taxes to the 70% percentile range, and unlike socio-economic trends in general — which are more of the left today than in the past — that there’s a bit more sanity within the narrow parameters of the issue of taxes.

Comment by Mark (2efcda) — 7/10/2012 @ 8:39 am
Finkelman, I meant to say that 2010 date of death could be treated under 2010 or 2011 rules. For the next six months, the exemption is five million to oversimplify. Six months from now? Who knows thanks to Democrat incompetence and cheap class warfare rhetoric.

Comment by SPQR (0d434c) — 7/10/2012 @ 8:48 am
_____________________________________________

You are the perfect leftist, imdw. Beyond parody, unwilling to be honest, unwilling to accept responsibility for your own failures, and instead, blame everyone except yourself for your actions.

That’s why it’s not being sarcastic — but merely casting a light onto what makes certain people tick — to note that a high percentage of trial lawyers also are of the left.

Moreover, I saw a recent poll that indicates over 90-plus percent of black America believes Obama is doing a good job. Past poll have indicated similar one-sided, overwhelming enthusiasm from a huge majority of the black community towards liberals like Al Gore and John Kerry. In an odd way, it’s actually a sad thing that such sentiment therefore cannot be construed as emanating from purely race-based biases.

I’ve often wondered why the various social and economic problems that plague so much of black America remain so intractable year after year, decade after decade. The absurd amount of liberalism that roils a huge portion of that part of society has to factored in. Or a mindset in which the characteristics you list above tend to be predominant.

BTW, I’d be leery if 90-plus percent of any group or community was the flipside extreme of black America, or was 90-plus percent of the right. When attitudes become that ridiculously monolithic, various forms of corruption are more likely to ensue. IOW, the concept of the need for checks and balances apply to not just a society’s government, but to its ideology too.

Comment by Mark (2efcda) — 7/10/2012 @ 8:59 am
This is fascinating:

hearing in the House Government Oversight Committee regarding GM’s decision to spend $1 billion in taxpayer bailout dollars to top-up the pensions of Delphi’s UAW retirees (and later, members of the Electrical Workers and Steelworkers unions but not members of other unions or salaried workers). In other words, a bankrupt company spent $1 billion to pay for the pensions of the retirees of a complete separate company (GM spun-off Delphi in 1999).

More reinforcement of the fact that the GM bailout was not about “saving” the automobile industry. It was a brazen and corrupt deal to put taxpayer money in union pockets.

Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 7/10/2012 @ 2:32 pm
if the unions were *really* smart they woulda demanded to be paid in food stamps

Comment by happyfeet (a55ba0) — 7/10/2012 @ 2:48 pm
tye, if you aren’t paid for being a donkey’s rearend here, you’re dumber than you look.

Comment by PCD (b117b3) — 7/10/2012 @ 3:00 pm
PCD, and yet, if he is paid for being a donkey’s rearend that does not exclude the likelihood that he’s dumber than he looks …

Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 7/10/2012 @ 3:25 pm
And after all the financial shenanigans, it looks like middle class bailouts are possible… so long as they organize. Better work on making sure that doesn’t happen.

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